From Front Desk to Fairfield: A Conversation with Hotel Owner Vimal Ranat
Growing up in a hotel can teach you a lot about life—and about business. In this episode of The Room Key, host Chase Keller sits down with hospitality veteran Vimal Ranat, who shares his inspiring journey from working the front desk as a child to owning multiple branded properties, including a newly built Fairfield Inn & Suites.
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Bonus Insight: Vimal reveals what it’s really like to do a joint venture for hotel development and shares his vision for the future of midscale and extended-stay properties.
Stay tuned for the Wake-Up Call segment, where Vimal answers rapid-fire questions about hotel ownership and his biggest lessons learned.
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Speaker:is a risk, right?
Speaker:And being in business, it's a risk.
Speaker:But as long as you know, you're logical,
Speaker:and numbers work, everything will be fine.
Speaker:Thank you so much for coming to talk
Speaker:with us.
Speaker:I'm excited to hear your story.
Speaker:Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker:I always like to start out with the
Speaker:origin story.
Speaker:Who was Vimal when you grew up?
Speaker:What kind of a kid were you?
Speaker:So glad to be here.
Speaker:You know, thank you very much.
Speaker:Nice to meet you.
Speaker:So I grew up in India, up until
Speaker:the age of five, in the state of
Speaker:Gujarat, basically.
Speaker:And my father migrated to the US in
Speaker:1969.
Speaker:Then my mom and I, we migrated in
Speaker:1975.
Speaker:So when we came to the country, as
Speaker:a child, I was very curious, because being
Speaker:in a new country, not being very efficient
Speaker:in English.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:So going to school was a little bit
Speaker:challenging in the beginning.
Speaker:But with the support of my teachers and
Speaker:my friends.
Speaker:So what, where did you come to?
Speaker:Did you come to Kansas City?
Speaker:So my dad leased his first hotel in
Speaker:Stockton, California.
Speaker:Stockton, California, back in 1970, 71.
Speaker:And then I, you know, I came in,
Speaker:we flew into Stockton, California, grew up in
Speaker:the hotel industry during that time.
Speaker:At the age of, I started working the
Speaker:desk with my parents at the age of
Speaker:seven, just to get into the industry.
Speaker:And, you know, I still remember during that
Speaker:time, where it was a small hotel, you
Speaker:know, in Indian property, and in a rundown
Speaker:area, you know, because the investment was small
Speaker:at that time, right, you know, money was
Speaker:challenging.
Speaker:So my dad took his first step, took
Speaker:the risk, you know, and I remember, you
Speaker:know, renting rooms with my dad.
Speaker:And, you know, the guest would come in,
Speaker:rent the room.
Speaker:And we used to give out the sheets
Speaker:and towels to the guest for a small
Speaker:deposit.
Speaker:And they would make their own bed.
Speaker:So I wish I wish we could go
Speaker:back to those days now.
Speaker:But times have changed.
Speaker:What kind of a property was how big?
Speaker:It was an Indian property.
Speaker:I think it was about 2425 rooms.
Speaker:So he leased that it was his first
Speaker:hotel he leased in Stockton, California.
Speaker:And then we moved to Las Vegas with
Speaker:property there.
Speaker:And we have property in Texas.
Speaker:And then we moved to Oklahoma, and a
Speaker:small town called Elk City.
Speaker:We were the first Indian family in that
Speaker:town.
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:That was the town population, I think at
Speaker:that time was about two or 3000 population.
Speaker:Okay, well, that's a small, yeah, it was
Speaker:a small town.
Speaker:And you know, everybody knew us.
Speaker:You know, the community was very supportive of
Speaker:us being there, you know, especially in the
Speaker:hotel industry.
Speaker:And we grew up there, we bought, you
Speaker:know, multiple properties at that time.
Speaker:And then we moved to Kansas City in
Speaker:1982.
Speaker:We purchased a property here.
Speaker:And then this is our basement.
Speaker:Without me having to do the math.
Speaker:How old were you when you moved to
Speaker:Kansas City, Kansas City?
Speaker:I was in seventh grade.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Junior high.
Speaker:So you and you lived?
Speaker:Did you live in Vegas and in Texas?
Speaker:We did.
Speaker:We lived in Stockton, Vegas and Oklahoma.
Speaker:So the Texas property was a remote property.
Speaker:Do you guys still own any of those?
Speaker:No, we sold.
Speaker:Our parents sold them off many years ago.
Speaker:And you know, dad retired at an early
Speaker:age.
Speaker:And then I took over the business.
Speaker:I have two siblings.
Speaker:They're awesome.
Speaker:One's an attorney, and my sister is a
Speaker:PharmD major.
Speaker:They're in California.
Speaker:Oh, nice.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And nobody else wanted to get into the
Speaker:hotel industry.
Speaker:Just you.
Speaker:Somebody has to continue the tradition, right?
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:So here we are.
Speaker:So you took the reins.
Speaker:I did.
Speaker:I did.
Speaker:And it's been very fruitful.
Speaker:Thanks to our, you know, thanks to the
Speaker:parents and the family support.
Speaker:So how many did he build prior to
Speaker:retiring?
Speaker:So basically, off and on probably close to
Speaker:eight or nine properties.
Speaker:And then we built our first property in
Speaker:Kansas City back in 1999.
Speaker:We kept that for about 16 years, and
Speaker:then we sold it.
Speaker:So you very much grew up in the
Speaker:hospitality industry.
Speaker:It's in your blood, clearly.
Speaker:Going forward, legacy, do you have kids?
Speaker:I do.
Speaker:I do have two kids, a son and
Speaker:a daughter.
Speaker:My son, he majored in international marketing from
Speaker:California.
Speaker:And he does help me in the real
Speaker:estate business, in the hotel business.
Speaker:And he also has his own men's boutique
Speaker:for Indian wear.
Speaker:So he's a fashion designer also.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:I think he goes after my wife.
Speaker:My wife, she's a fashion designer herself for
Speaker:Indian wedding clothing.
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And then my daughter, she just graduated from
Speaker:college a couple of months ago.
Speaker:So she wants to go into the health
Speaker:field.
Speaker:She's an entrepreneur, but I think she has
Speaker:her mindset in the health field.
Speaker:And I don't think she wants to go
Speaker:into the hotel industry.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:So did they grow up very similar to
Speaker:how you grew up?
Speaker:Or were they not?
Speaker:Because your portfolio was much larger than when
Speaker:you initially grew up.
Speaker:So you were, like you said, sitting at
Speaker:the front desk helping out from very early
Speaker:on.
Speaker:Correct.
Speaker:How involved have they been in the industry?
Speaker:So they've been very involved from childhood.
Speaker:You know, I taught them how to write
Speaker:checks, make hotel deposits, you know, things like
Speaker:that.
Speaker:You know, answer the phone, you know, just
Speaker:the basics.
Speaker:Because I want them to learn and see
Speaker:if they want to really get into that
Speaker:industry when they grew up, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So you have to start somewhere.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And especially having their sense of entrepreneurship clearly
Speaker:comes from you, from your father.
Speaker:Correct.
Speaker:What was it like?
Speaker:I mean, it's probably all you knew, but
Speaker:how would you describe your childhood growing up
Speaker:in the hotel industry around your parents?
Speaker:So childhood growing up as a child in
Speaker:the hotel industry, my parents did not believe
Speaker:in child labor laws.
Speaker:You know, I think none of the parents
Speaker:do.
Speaker:So, you know, working the front desk at
Speaker:early age, helping in laundry, making rooms, you
Speaker:know, things like that, and answering the phones.
Speaker:So I think, you know, the seed that
Speaker:they planted in me at that time is
Speaker:being very fruitful today for us.
Speaker:What would you say is your first major
Speaker:role that you took on, obviously with your
Speaker:parents, but what was the mall's like first
Speaker:project that he took on as a kid?
Speaker:So as a kid, the management side of
Speaker:the of all the hotels, and then helping
Speaker:in the construction of our first hotel that
Speaker:we did in 99.
Speaker:Learning from that, we acquired many other properties,
Speaker:you know, myself, branched out, and I have
Speaker:other brands that I own, including the Marriott
Speaker:Fairfield Inn, which we just opened up seven
Speaker:months ago.
Speaker:And that was a JV project.
Speaker:That's the first one for us.
Speaker:And I think it was a dedication to
Speaker:my parents.
Speaker:Nice.
Speaker:You know, because he's always wanted to have
Speaker:an upscale property, you know, name brand, which
Speaker:I think we made that happen.
Speaker:So what other brands have you been involved?
Speaker:We've been involved with Choice Hotels, Wyndham Properties,
Speaker:I have existing Wyndham Properties right now, and
Speaker:then Marriott, and then hopefully looking into other
Speaker:other brands down the road.
Speaker:What was the first franchise that you and
Speaker:your dad got into after being independent?
Speaker:First project, our first hotel was a budget
Speaker:host, economy, economy brand, right?
Speaker:There's still a few out there in the
Speaker:market.
Speaker:And it wasn't, it was nice.
Speaker:We had an independent property, which we converted
Speaker:to a budget host.
Speaker:And we've we operated that for about 12
Speaker:years, basically.
Speaker:And then I was on the board for
Speaker:budget host also.
Speaker:That was my first experience being on board.
Speaker:Very nice.
Speaker:You mentioned that the Fairfield, having the upscale
Speaker:brand, upscale property was sort of a tribute
Speaker:to your parents.
Speaker:What is Vimal's legacy?
Speaker:What do you want to see years down
Speaker:the road for what you've worked on?
Speaker:Years down the road, we eventually we do
Speaker:want to grow more into upscale properties, new
Speaker:construction, and just continue continue the legend.
Speaker:You're heavy here in the Kansas City market.
Speaker:Is that where you want to stay?
Speaker:Do you want to?
Speaker:Oh, we're open to ideas, you know, open
Speaker:to possibilities anywhere in the US.
Speaker:We did have properties in, like I mentioned,
Speaker:in Stockton.
Speaker:We also had a property in Paso Robles,
Speaker:California, which is a wine county.
Speaker:So we had a boutique hotel there.
Speaker:So yeah.
Speaker:You still do?
Speaker:No, we sold that.
Speaker:And so the hospitality industry is obviously very
Speaker:demanding.
Speaker:Constantly, there is no going to sleep and
Speaker:putting it to bed.
Speaker:What do you do outside of hospitality to
Speaker:keep you grounded?
Speaker:So to keep me grounded is I do
Speaker:a lot of community service.
Speaker:I like to give back to the back
Speaker:to the community.
Speaker:No recognition, recognition, you know, needed.
Speaker:You know, it just helps me be a
Speaker:better person.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And motivates myself, you know, motivates to keep
Speaker:going.
Speaker:Did you go to college or grew up?
Speaker:We I went to college in Warrensburg, Missouri,
Speaker:CMSU, Central Missouri State University.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Majored in business and CIS computer information systems,
Speaker:but then took a detour into the hotel
Speaker:industry.
Speaker:Detour back.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:To go back, actually, it took a pause
Speaker:a little bit.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Go back to your roots.
Speaker:Did you meet your wife here in Kansas
Speaker:City in college?
Speaker:So my wife is from India, Bombay, Mumbai,
Speaker:actually, which they call.
Speaker:So we were we were introduced via, you
Speaker:know, other friends and relatives.
Speaker:Basically, we were pen pals for about two
Speaker:years.
Speaker:We wrote letters at that time, didn't have
Speaker:any email or fax, you know, back in
Speaker:1990.
Speaker:I met her through via phone and letters
Speaker:around 91.
Speaker:So we used to write letters to each
Speaker:other.
Speaker:And, you know, and, you know, we used
Speaker:to wait for the letters to come in.
Speaker:You know, that was the exciting part.
Speaker:You'd run to the P.O. box, you
Speaker:know, to pick up the mail right at
Speaker:that time.
Speaker:You know, so we used to do that.
Speaker:So it was nice.
Speaker:I met her.
Speaker:We got married in 93.
Speaker:Then she came to the U.S. after
Speaker:she finished her studies and came in here,
Speaker:came to the U.S. in 94.
Speaker:How does she like the U.S.? She
Speaker:loves it.
Speaker:She I mean, you know, she grew up
Speaker:in a in Bombay in a and she
Speaker:went to a Indian English speaking school.
Speaker:So she was fluent in English already, which
Speaker:is good.
Speaker:And she's been very supportive.
Speaker:She does not get involved in the hotel
Speaker:industry.
Speaker:She has her own boutique.
Speaker:And then she also works in a corporate
Speaker:corporate world, too.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:She stays very busy.
Speaker:So, you know, we want to come home
Speaker:together, have dinner and not talk about hotels.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:My my wife and I are both in
Speaker:real estate.
Speaker:We work together.
Speaker:And yes, having a little bit of separation
Speaker:is so important.
Speaker:You need your time, time.
Speaker:What was your first venture apart from your
Speaker:father?
Speaker:So first venture was a Wyndham product, which
Speaker:we purchased.
Speaker:That was our first acquisition, my first acquisition,
Speaker:actually.
Speaker:And then I have multiple Wyndham brands now,
Speaker:including the Fairfield.
Speaker:You like the Wyndham system?
Speaker:I do.
Speaker:I do like the Wyndham system.
Speaker:They're they're like family to me.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And it's it's been a good run with
Speaker:them.
Speaker:Very nice.
Speaker:Very supportive.
Speaker:My DFO is very supportive in the area.
Speaker:Anytime I need anything, a messenger gets a
Speaker:prompt reply right back.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So it helps.
Speaker:In my experience there, it's very much a
Speaker:family inside Wyndham, especially a lot of the
Speaker:brands, obviously, but Wyndham especially.
Speaker:It is very close.
Speaker:What would you say is one of the
Speaker:biggest risks that you took early on?
Speaker:So, you know, as Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook
Speaker:says, you know, any risk is a risk.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And being in business, it's a risk.
Speaker:But as long as, you know, you you're
Speaker:logical and numbers work, everything will be fine.
Speaker:Would you say you are naturally more on
Speaker:the business systems or the the numbers and
Speaker:analysis or the customer service?
Speaker:Where does Vimalak really shine?
Speaker:So my shining point is everywhere, in every
Speaker:department.
Speaker:As a business owner, you have to be
Speaker:in every department.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And you have to be very flexible.
Speaker:And, you know, it's been very challenging to
Speaker:me because I'm a very hands-on person.
Speaker:And with the Fairfield Inn, you know, since
Speaker:it's our first JV project, I decided to,
Speaker:instead of managing it and I want to
Speaker:focus on growth, I hired a management company
Speaker:for this property.
Speaker:But I'm still here every day.
Speaker:I don't get involved, you know, but, you
Speaker:know, I'm there for my staff, for the
Speaker:management company, anything they need, I'm there for
Speaker:them.
Speaker:And one thing that a lot of, not
Speaker:a lot, but some investors, when they're getting
Speaker:in, especially if they're new to that industry
Speaker:sector, you think if I'm going to hire
Speaker:a property manager, I don't want to have
Speaker:anything to do with it.
Speaker:And that's where we see a lot of
Speaker:problems.
Speaker:You have to, you can hire the best
Speaker:manager, but you still have to manage the
Speaker:manager.
Speaker:You do.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:I agree with you.
Speaker:And it's been, it's been a nice, nice
Speaker:go.
Speaker:And if nothing else, just to make sure
Speaker:you're on the same page, because they could
Speaker:be fantastic at what they do, but if
Speaker:it's not what the strategy is that you
Speaker:are looking for, you're never going to align
Speaker:unless you're here talking to them.
Speaker:Correct.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Correct.
Speaker:Did you ever think, I don't know if
Speaker:this is going to work out with any
Speaker:of your projects?
Speaker:You know, going back to the property I
Speaker:purchased about four years ago as a Wyndham
Speaker:brand, you know, I took my wife there
Speaker:and I wanted to get her perspective on
Speaker:it, right.
Speaker:And you know, buying properties in a small
Speaker:town, we've never done that before.
Speaker:We've always been in big cities, metro areas.
Speaker:So I took her there, a population of
Speaker:20,000.
Speaker:We were driving and I told her, this
Speaker:is a property.
Speaker:She goes, she looked at it and she
Speaker:goes, let's buy it just by looking at
Speaker:the property because she had that intuition, right?
Speaker:You get, you get that feeling and we
Speaker:bought it and it's been a good run
Speaker:for them.
Speaker:It's been, it's been nice.
Speaker:That's incredible.
Speaker:It's been nice.
Speaker:They've been performing, performing very well.
Speaker:It's amazing how, I think it's something about
Speaker:the feminine that has an intuition that we
Speaker:just honestly don't have.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:We can look at the numbers, we can
Speaker:look at everything in solid detail, but something
Speaker:about that intuition is, is so important.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And then I'm very glad that she's there
Speaker:for me.
Speaker:That's awesome.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:That's very important.
Speaker:What is one lesson you learned early on
Speaker:that sticks with you today?
Speaker:Starting to work at an early age.
Speaker:I mean, that's, that's the most benefit that
Speaker:I've, I've received.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, and like I said, glad to
Speaker:my parents that, you know, they placed me
Speaker:at the front desk.
Speaker:He said, go for it, you know, because
Speaker:I, I still remember, you know, at that
Speaker:age, you know, when you have an Indian
Speaker:property in a small town, you know, the
Speaker:parents might want to take a break, you
Speaker:know, I said, Hey, you know what, we're
Speaker:going to go to the store.
Speaker:We're going to do this, you know, you
Speaker:know, and overhead, we're watching overhead.
Speaker:So I said, Okay, Vimo, can you watch
Speaker:the desk for a bit for an hour
Speaker:for half an hour, you know, we're just
Speaker:gonna run to the store and come back,
Speaker:you know.
Speaker:So I used to do that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So it's been nice.
Speaker:I learned a lot from that.
Speaker:They were able to take little, little pieces
Speaker:to be able to test.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And just, you know, and build me where
Speaker:I am today.
Speaker:You know, and I still remember, you know,
Speaker:when I was in high school, my dad
Speaker:used to, you know, when he used to
Speaker:acquire hotels, you know, we'd work on the
Speaker:LOI, we'd work on the purchase agreement.
Speaker:And he goes, Okay, I don't know how
Speaker:to type, you know, can you do it
Speaker:for me?
Speaker:You know, I knew he knew how to
Speaker:type.
Speaker:I knew he knew how to type, you
Speaker:know, it might be, it might take a
Speaker:little bit long for him to type, but
Speaker:I knew he knew it.
Speaker:But I think, you know, he wanted to
Speaker:instill in me that, you know what, this
Speaker:is how you do it.
Speaker:You know, this is how you do LOI.
Speaker:This is how you create a purchase agreement.
Speaker:And from that, I do my own agreements
Speaker:now.
Speaker:Giving you those little pieces to build the
Speaker:puzzle, putting the puzzle together, right?
Speaker:Yeah, I remember early being been pretty young,
Speaker:and my dad would buy a new lawnmower,
Speaker:a new wheelbarrow or something, and he'd point
Speaker:at the box and say, You're an engineer,
Speaker:figure it out.
Speaker:Yep, yep.
Speaker:I knew my dad could easily put it
Speaker:together much faster and probably accurately.
Speaker:But just giving you those little projects to
Speaker:that, you know, that you take on, and
Speaker:it's all you definitely builds, it builds character
Speaker:builds, you know, intelligence.
Speaker:I mean, it just, you know, all rounded
Speaker:person, what do you think are some of
Speaker:the biggest challenges that hotel owners face today?
Speaker:So the challenger challenges that hotel owners are
Speaker:facing today, as you know, of course, there's
Speaker:a few that I have in mind, you
Speaker:know, property insurance increases, very challenging, property tax
Speaker:increases, you know, employment challenges.
Speaker:And then, of course, the current economy, where
Speaker:we stand today.
Speaker:So those are the challenges that every owner
Speaker:is facing throughout the US.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:What is Vimal doing right now, to get
Speaker:in front of those obstacles to handle some
Speaker:of those issues and not be taken out
Speaker:by them?
Speaker:So what we're doing is we're being proactive
Speaker:in every department, for example, we'll take this
Speaker:hotel, we know we're cross training all our
Speaker:employees, you know, the front desk employees, a
Speaker:salesperson, assistant manager, you know, they're all doing
Speaker:playing different roles, basically.
Speaker:And it's very helpful, very helpful.
Speaker:And they've been a very good staff to
Speaker:me.
Speaker:What do you think is some of the
Speaker:main benefits of that?
Speaker:Is it to so that they can help
Speaker:out if things get tough?
Speaker:Or if you just can't hire enough people
Speaker:in that role that other people can come
Speaker:and help out?
Speaker:It's a synergy.
Speaker:No, we're we're a family.
Speaker:And I believe in my employees as being
Speaker:family members.
Speaker:You know, and I just, it just creates
Speaker:a good positive, positive vibe.
Speaker:Are you seeing any shifts in consumer behavior,
Speaker:travel trends?
Speaker:We are.
Speaker:So, you know, of course, the lack of
Speaker:international travel has hurt the economy, a rise
Speaker:in alternative accommodations, like Airbnb, Verbo, coming in
Speaker:online.
Speaker:And then just the guest expectations with lower
Speaker:tolerance, you know, so because, you know, before
Speaker:we used to have guests, you know, that
Speaker:come in very positive, but now it's like,
Speaker:you know, it's a fast society.
Speaker:You know, you have the internet, you have
Speaker:social media, you have all these, you know,
Speaker:sources that guests look at, you know, and
Speaker:they choose and pick which property they want
Speaker:to stay or where they want to eat.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Now you do the same.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:As a consumer.
Speaker:With issues like labor shortages, rising costs, franchise
Speaker:pressures, is there anything that you are changing
Speaker:with your business to accommodate some of those
Speaker:issues?
Speaker:So, you know, labor shortages, going back to
Speaker:cross training, that really helps us in the
Speaker:labor shortages, rising cost, you know, we try
Speaker:to negotiate bulk purchases for lower cost.
Speaker:And then franchise pressures, we try to maintain
Speaker:a good communication with the brand reps, you
Speaker:know, to ensure that, you know, everything is
Speaker:in compliance.
Speaker:And that realistically, the PIP, that they're providing
Speaker:the timelines, and it's cost effective for this,
Speaker:for the brand.
Speaker:Have you seen any issues yet?
Speaker:And hopefully, not and hopefully not too much
Speaker:in the future.
Speaker:But the with increasing tariffs, with increasing costs
Speaker:for suppliers, are you have you seen any
Speaker:of that pressure yourself?
Speaker:We have we have across the whole board,
Speaker:basically, you know, with purchases for the hotel
Speaker:industry.
Speaker:It's going to be there.
Speaker:I mean, it's a norm is to change
Speaker:part of life now part of the business
Speaker:doing business, right?
Speaker:So we just have to watch our overhead,
Speaker:you know, and try to cut cost, where
Speaker:it does not affect the customer service portion
Speaker:of it.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:The quality of quality satisfaction, in general, where's
Speaker:the industry headed?
Speaker:What major changes are you seeing that affects
Speaker:the whole hospitality industry?
Speaker:So the changes that I've seen, I've started
Speaker:to see actually is increase in automation, self
Speaker:check-in portions, basically, more data driven personalization
Speaker:with the guest, and then, you know, brand
Speaker:diversification.
Speaker:So we're seeing all this come into play
Speaker:now, especially for the future, you know, automation
Speaker:and contactless check-ins will be a big
Speaker:business.
Speaker:As far as AI, are you seeing any,
Speaker:any major changes for the artificial intelligence inside
Speaker:the hospitality industry that you're using?
Speaker:We are and you know, we're looking at,
Speaker:you know, the operational efficiency, you know, it's
Speaker:gonna be more efficient to do business on
Speaker:a day to day basis.
Speaker:Even though that may, you know, affect the
Speaker:employment rate, you know, so it's a balance
Speaker:that we have to take, right, but you're
Speaker:not going to have robots everywhere.
Speaker:You will need human beings.
Speaker:And, you know, and to me, a, it's
Speaker:a personal touch when you have a human
Speaker:being, you know, speaking to you.
Speaker:It's a very personal touch.
Speaker:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker:And I feel like even more now, customer
Speaker:service is so important because we have so
Speaker:many touch points where it is AI, it's
Speaker:a bot that doesn't feel real, like we're
Speaker:getting more used to it.
Speaker:But when you have good customer service coming
Speaker:from a real person, it almost makes a
Speaker:bigger difference today, getting that personal touch.
Speaker:No, absolutely.
Speaker:And you know, guest expectations are increasing, increasing
Speaker:tremendously nowadays, right?
Speaker:They want more for the money, basically, and
Speaker:you have to offer that.
Speaker:What opportunities are you seeing, personally, going forward,
Speaker:any different market segments, product types, different brands,
Speaker:different markets, where, where are you looking into
Speaker:the future?
Speaker:For the future, where I'm looking into more
Speaker:of towards, I'd like to stay within mid
Speaker:scale brands, because of less overhead, full service,
Speaker:I try to stay away from full service
Speaker:at this time, because it's too much overhead,
Speaker:basically.
Speaker:And, you know, and I'm also looking into
Speaker:extended stay markets.
Speaker:I know there's quite a few brands that
Speaker:have rolled out extended stay brands, which are
Speaker:appealing to me.
Speaker:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker:And I feel like there's a good dichotomy
Speaker:between the Airbnb, Vrbo, that sort of appeal
Speaker:to that extended stay, I feel like that's
Speaker:very similar.
Speaker:And for us, personally, we love to travel
Speaker:naturally.
Speaker:And we have a big family, we have
Speaker:six kids.
Speaker:So often, it can be challenging going to
Speaker:hotels, absolutely almost have to have connecting rooms,
Speaker:sometimes that's available, sometimes it's not.
Speaker:And even a connecting room can be tough
Speaker:to get eight people into a single room.
Speaker:And that's sort of an appeal to and
Speaker:I think a push now that a lot
Speaker:of families have, you know, eight people that
Speaker:are traveling together, but you do have a
Speaker:lot of groups that are multiple families together
Speaker:or extended families that are traveling together, that
Speaker:have an appeal to go to a larger
Speaker:building, a larger space that Airbnb typically allows
Speaker:for.
Speaker:But I feel like that's where the extended
Speaker:stay helps out a lot and where hotels
Speaker:and brands are getting really smart and dipping
Speaker:into that market, while it may be smaller,
Speaker:still has a lot of benefits that hotels
Speaker:have just haven't had the opportunity to jump
Speaker:into lately.
Speaker:No, I agree.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:And even for us, you know, when we
Speaker:travel, we try, we love to travel also.
Speaker:And, you know, if we're with our family
Speaker:or friends and a larger group, we're going
Speaker:to be renting a house or Airbnb, you
Speaker:know, that's the route to go to, you
Speaker:know, but, you know, hotel industry will always
Speaker:remain there, they'll stay strong, you know, and
Speaker:we also have cycles that go up and
Speaker:down, which is every business has, and we
Speaker:just have to stick it out.
Speaker:So JV obviously went successful.
Speaker:It did, it did.
Speaker:First JV project for us, you know, because
Speaker:up until now, all our hotels that we
Speaker:owned were self-provided, you know, self-funded
Speaker:basically.
Speaker:And at that certain point, you know, it
Speaker:limits your growth.
Speaker:So I said, you know what, let's try
Speaker:a JV project, see how it goes, and
Speaker:then we'll go from there.
Speaker:Do you like it?
Speaker:I do, I do.
Speaker:We love it.
Speaker:Everybody's on the same page.
Speaker:You know, I have my siblings in here
Speaker:with me, my brother and sister, and then
Speaker:I have my, one of my good family
Speaker:friend, his family invested with us.
Speaker:So it's been good.
Speaker:It's been good so far.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And we're on the same page, you know,
Speaker:and we have our days, of course, everybody
Speaker:does, you know, we stay, we're very communicative.
Speaker:Once a month, we have a call with
Speaker:the management company.
Speaker:All of us are on the call.
Speaker:Once a month.
Speaker:Once a month, we'll see where we're heading,
Speaker:you know, and I'm here every day, right?
Speaker:So, I mean, I know everything.
Speaker:But that once a month call really involves
Speaker:all my partners together.
Speaker:I want them involved too, right?
Speaker:In any major decision-making, day-to-day
Speaker:decisions, small ones, I take care of it.
Speaker:So I don't even bother anybody.
Speaker:You're going to do another one of those?
Speaker:I'm Hilton approved now.
Speaker:So think about, I do want to do
Speaker:a Hilton product, probably on the road.
Speaker:And then looking at Wyndham, the Echo, the
Speaker:extended stay Echo, the new one that rolled
Speaker:out.
Speaker:That's a little bit So I'm talking to
Speaker:a general contractor right now to see how
Speaker:the numbers work out.
Speaker:To build from the ground up again?
Speaker:Yeah, from ground up, basically.
Speaker:But I did, you know, one question, I
Speaker:don't think we discussed this, but one question
Speaker:is that, you know, we want to, for
Speaker:any person that's constructing a new hotel, don't
Speaker:take shortcuts.
Speaker:Hire an experienced GC, because that will save
Speaker:you money and time.
Speaker:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker:And the thing that is so interesting, and
Speaker:one of the things that really pulled me
Speaker:into the hospitality space, because I've been a
Speaker:commercial broker for a long time, is just
Speaker:how unique hotels are.
Speaker:One, it's still real estate, and the location
Speaker:obviously matters a ton, but it's very much
Speaker:a business.
Speaker:And how well the business is run directly
Speaker:affects, obviously, your income, but the value of
Speaker:the property.
Speaker:So that's where I deal with quite a
Speaker:bit.
Speaker:And with being used so much, I totally
Speaker:agree with you on the construction side, like,
Speaker:do it right from the beginning, because you're
Speaker:going to be ideally in this 20, 30,
Speaker:40, 50 years, and it gets used so
Speaker:hard, so much more than like an office
Speaker:building, or a retail building gets used and
Speaker:just pounded to the ground every day.
Speaker:If you're taking shortcuts, it's going to show
Speaker:up.
Speaker:It's going to show up, and it's going
Speaker:to affect the business down the road.
Speaker:And in the long term, you just got
Speaker:to make sure you make the right logical,
Speaker:right person that you need to hire, basically,
Speaker:because that will really affect the business.
Speaker:Going into our next section, before we check
Speaker:out from this interview, I always like to
Speaker:do what we call the wake-up call,
Speaker:which is shorter answers, rapid-fire questions.
Speaker:What's one hotel experience that you'll never forget?
Speaker:Going back is that listening to my wife.
Speaker:To purchase that one hotel.
Speaker:So yeah, I think that's paid off.
Speaker:Trust those...
Speaker:Trust those instincts, you know, feminine instincts.
Speaker:You have to do it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:What's one thing that you wish more guests
Speaker:understood?
Speaker:I wish more guests understood the challenges that
Speaker:hotel employees face on a daily basis, basically,
Speaker:especially the front desk staff, right?
Speaker:Front desk staff are working hard to meet
Speaker:guest expectations.
Speaker:They're working, you know, while managing multiple responsibilities
Speaker:behind the scenes.
Speaker:So I think, you know, a little patience
Speaker:from the guest and empathy would go a
Speaker:long ways.
Speaker:A good front desk clerk has to be
Speaker:one of the hardest jobs in the world.
Speaker:Not only are you managing so many people,
Speaker:so many humans as guests and all their
Speaker:emotions and all their needs, which we all
Speaker:know traveling can be hectic.
Speaker:It can be frustrating, especially when things don't
Speaker:go right or don't meet your expectations.
Speaker:And you have to meet their emotions.
Speaker:You have all of the other staff that
Speaker:you're coordinating and helping with and in your
Speaker:own.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:There's so many long hours and that's just
Speaker:got to be one of the hardest jobs.