Hey there, my fabulous friends! Today, we're diving into the wild world of creativity—specifically, how to unleash your inner artist, even if you think you’ve got two left feet (or hands, in this case)! We’ll be chatting about the joys of letting go of perfection and embracing the messy, beautiful process that comes with creating anything from doodles to epic masterpieces. You know, it's all about having fun and not taking ourselves too seriously—because who needs a critic when you can just be your own biggest fan? So grab your favorite drink, kick back, and let’s explore how to turn that spark of inspiration into a full-blown creative fiesta! Trust me, you don’t want to miss this one—let’s get our creative juices flowing! Gather 'round, friends! We’re diving into some seriously fun stuff today, exploring the wild world of creative brainstorming. You know how sometimes ideas just bounce around like a pinball in an arcade? Well, we took that feeling and ran with it! We chatted about how to kickstart your creativity when you’re feeling a bit stuck. Ever had one of those days where you can’t think of a single thing? Yeah, we’ve all been there. So, we shared our favorite techniques—like mind mapping and free writing—that can help you unleash those pesky thoughts that just won’t come out. Trust me, once you get the ball rolling, it’s like a party for your brain! But hold on, we didn’t stop there! We also explored the importance of collaboration in the creative process. You know how they say two heads are better than one? Well, we put that theory to the test! We talked about our favorite brainstorming sessions where the energy was so high, it felt like we were on a rollercoaster. We shared tips on how to create a relaxed and fun environment that encourages everyone to throw in their ideas without fear of judgment. Spoiler alert: it involves snacks, lots of snacks! And who doesn’t love a good snack while brainstorming? So grab your favorite munchies and tune in for a creative joyride!

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3. We explore the benefits of laughter, and how incorporating humor into our routines not only uplifts our spirits but also strengthens our relationships with those around us.
4. This episode highlights the significance of setting boundaries, so we can prioritize our well-being without feeling guilty, because saying 'no' can sometimes be the most empowering thing!
5. We discuss the role of community support in our lives, emphasizing that we are all in this together and that leaning on each other is totally okay, just like sharing fries at a fast food joint!
6. Lastly, we reflect on the journey of personal growth, and how embracing our flaws and imperfections can lead to a more authentic and joyful life, because who wants to be perfect anyway?

Oh, close the door.

It's not quite spring.

You're letting in the chill.

The snow has melted.

We had a pretty good day.

And by the way, did you get clean or cured off of the vd?

Oh, you mean, you mean that the whole Valentine's Day debacle?

Oh, I mean, let's just say that.

Good.

Jack, no, don't go out with him.

That was a huge mistake.

And if he offers you soup, it's roadkill.

Say no.

Yeah.

Anyway.

What?

We did get some snow here.

Yeah, Yeah, I heard that we got a whole, like 12 inches.

Oh, well, I just think it's cute that the, the, the kiddos there in the ar.

That they still do the little Valentine's card thing.

I don't know if you did that when you were a kid.

Yeah, we had to do the whole, put it, make a little box of paper and put it on the desk.

And then people came by and didn't give me any Valentine's.

Well, I just remembered that you were supposed to give them to everyone, so that's the only time that I felt included.

Because back then we couldn't be legally married, much less spotted in public.

It was always nice when the cute boys had to give us Valentine's.

Right?

Unless they said, like, I hate you on the back or something like that.

That was weird.

We are the Charlie Browns of our art community.

Right.

See you after school.

Oh, really?

Is that a promise?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know that Hector should have given Tanya that car because I, I'm not sure he realizes that she's his cousin.

You know what?

Consider where we are.

I mean, is what it is.

It's like living in Surrey.

Exactly.

So we're surviving and spring is just around the corner, I hear.

And we go from the little candied hearts to, well, these stories.

Yes.

Little people.

And the green colored drinks.

Are you a fan of the green colored drinks?

If you're talking about like the colored beer or the car bomb things and stuff, no, I do not do that anymore.

Do you do the dairy?

Because the Golden Arches Shamrock shakes and stuff?

No, because it's, it's, it's algae.

Oh.

I do like mint chip ice cream, though.

That's.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think I, I, I once made a peppermint milkshake at home.

And of course, you just add a little bit of green food coloring and there you go.

Nice.

Probably better than anything you can get the Golden Arches these days.

I remember as a kid that those shamrock shakes were one of my first introductions to, to what?

St. Patrick's Day is all supposed to be about.

Of course, since that's going to be around the corner, this is my opportunity to provide you with an annual reminder as somebody of Irish descent that corned beef and hash was not an Irish American invention.

No, it was.

It was only potatoes.

A corned beef and hash was created in a New York deli.

Okay.

By Jewish people.

I. I'm Sinead o', Connor here to tell you that the potato famine wasn't real.

It was England trying to control us the whole time.

Well, I mean, depending on how hot England was, you might want them to control you.

Well,

anyways, I think that we are here to talk about something.

It's.

It's kind of like a memorial.

We're.

We're talking about something culturally and we want some context.

So I guess.

Okay, we'll go ahead and pop that in the machine.

That's what he wanted to do.

That tickled.

Wow.

Wait a minute.

I feel very familiar.

I think we've been here before.

Now, is that.

Did you remember to put the cat back on the VCR cleaner?

Oh, hey, I haven't used that in a while.

Well, somebody left the cap off of someone because the lady from the laundromat, her hair is all poofed out again.

Well, she deserves it.

She doesn't rewind.

She's not kind of.

And I see some of those Converses out there with some little checkerboards on them, so I have a feeling we're possibly going to be doing something with the 80s.

Let's let the VCR tell us.

Good afternoon, time travelers.

Today.

The year's biggest global moment came with Live Aid, a massive two continent concert that raised millions for famine relief and proved music could move the world.

On the political stage, Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev met at the Geneva summit, signaling a thaw in Cold War tensions.

Tragedy struck with the Mexico City earthquake, which killed thousands and devastated the city.

The year also brought major losses, including actor Rock Hudson, whose death shifted public awareness of aids, and filmmaker Orson Wellesley.

Amid it all, future stars were born, including Bruno Mars and Keira Knightley, ushering in a generation that would define pop culture decades later.

Yeah, that figures.

85, huh?

Well.

Well, we were just here, and I'll tell you, the one thing that it couldn't.

That Live Aid couldn't revive was.

Or offer relief from was right of way, which we just watched, which was also an 85.

That's why I said it felt familiar here.

I mean, we should have been smelling gas fumes, I guess.

Well, yeah, after watching that, I kind of felt like it.

I said no.

Or.

Oh, okay.

So we watch right away.

Which.

Which had them trying to kill themselves by inhaling gas.

Exhaust.

Right, gas.

Well, exhaust.

And then we had.

And then we went to watching Davey Daisy Clover.

Or she tried to kill herself by inhaling the gas from the oven.

I'm just wondering what we're gonna end up with this time.

Who's gonna try to gas.

Yeah.

And then there was that unfortunate association with JCPenney because Jimmy Stewart went shopping there during Right of Way.

And they're not around anymore.

There's a reason.

Well, they're still around in some places.

In fact, I remember not long ago, maybe it's been a decade now.

For a short breath of time, they had Ellen as their spokesperson.

Well.

And now they're no longer around, so that explains so much.

Yeah.

So speaking of the smell, or speaking of smelling gas, because when you smell gas, you should get out.

People used to go out more often, so.

Yeah.

Might want you to get out or at least be social.

Well, actually, so since.

We're gonna stay in tonight.

Yeah, so we'll stay in.

And so guess what we're going to be watching, of course, the number one show that revolutionized family sitcoms.

The Cosby Show.

I don't know.

I just.

I can't bring myself to watch anymore.

I don't know why.

I think that we're arguing over the remote tonight because we're going to talk about more than one show, I think.

Oh, yeah.

Well, that was always followed by Family Ties, which was Michael J.

Fox's launch him into superstardom.

And made you wonder, why did Tina Yeathers dye her hair black?

I don't understand.

And why was.

And why was Alex a Republican?

Right.

Like the whole family.

And Alex was like a Young Republican.

It just didn't make sense.

A hippie Parents.

Maybe that explains it.

And of course, Mallory turned out to be like a.

A science, a nuclear scientist or something that messed herself up with speed and eating disorders.

I don't know.

We forgave her because her brother was Jason Bateman in real life.

Well, yeah.

Well.

Oh, well, we don't go into how she Turned out.

Yeah.

Jason Bateman.

Oh, my gosh, that man, he is so good.

Anyway, also Murder She Wrote, which was one of the most successful crime dramas ever.

And one of the things I found out is that Angela Lansbury would.

One of the things that she did was the reason she had so many older actors and stuff on there was because she was taking people who would have like lost their benefits through the, through the, the Actors Guild or whatever and giving them a chance to get enough screen time to keep their like, benefits and stuff.

She, like, watched over people, so she was awesome.

Anyway, Cheers, of course, which was a cultural institution, everybody knows its name.

And then Simon and Simon, which was one of the biggest action series of the era.

And I would watch it not for the action.

Well, maybe you did.

Yeah.

Hoping that there would be action because, yeah, those two actors were very, very dreamy brothers.

I think I had the future star of Major dad in it.

Right.

That was Delta Burke's husband, Gerald Rainey.

Yes.

And I could tell you something about him.

Not on the air.

That's.

That's for the Patreon.

That's the Patreon.

I'll tell you all about that.

Yeah, like both of them.

And I can't even remember the other guy's name.

I mean, he was pretty awesome too.

So Those were the TV shows that were on in the middle 80s there.

Yeah, I know.

I wasn't old enough to use the remote myself, so I was a captive audience.

Rub it in.

Right.

Cosby show was definitely a favorite.

And I. I've been watching Family Ties more recent years because with the, the hippie dippy parents, it wasn't super popular in my house, so.

Okay, well, I suppose we should probably figure out what it is the guy in the basement thinks we should watch.

So let's let that blinking light do its job.

Oh, it changed devices on me.

So let me tell it the right one.

Okay, here we go.

Led by an enthusiastic young scientist, the team stumbles through adventures while mixing together sci fi humor and action.

Favorite series.

Huh?

I thought we were avoiding the gas fumes.

I think somebody was mixing some household chemicals.

Yeah, I, I watched this show when it was on when I was a kid and I loved it.

Absolutely loved It.

Even though it was ranked number 52 in the Nielsen TV ratings, it couldn't even break the top 50.

Girl, I have a feeling that you had the hots for Mr. Frank Burns.

Because Larry Linville was in this show that was.

That was funny.

No, I. I'll tell you.

I had the hots for Dean Paul Martin or.

Yeah, a little, A little dp.

Oh my God.

He was just to me like the ultimate like gorgeous man.

Oh my God.

Yeah, I. I had.

When I was younger, I had a type which was usually like in there.

Like him.

He was my type when I was younger.

Yeah, like, like the, the substitute substitute teacher and.

Or wood shop teacher.

Sure.

Yeah.

No, he.

He was.

I just thought he was the.

The yummiest.

Yeah.

Wow.

Miss.

It's a science.

Boy, is that a reason not to revisit your past?

Right?

So we watched.

How many episodes did you.

Did you get to watch?

Well, I watched a handful.

In fact I. I had a little help.

I wanted to see the best part.

So I. I asked AI to tell me what.

I shouldn't miss.

What we just told you.

Don't bother.

We were talking about Family Ties not long ago.

That reminds me because there was a rock and roll guitar rewind through time

into movie night blockbusters in these in black and white from two silver screen dreams trapped in the past by a time machine.

Each day it's a door for DJ

and Matt to explore the lore.

The past is present and you're gonna want more.

Okay, Matt, so this sounds like.

And I do want more.

Go ahead.

This sounds like something you are familiar with.

So tell us a little bit about misfits of science.

It ran from 85 to 86 and it did not know what it was that it was billed as like a sci fi adventure series that was created by James Perio Periot.

I don't know.

Was he French?

I have no idea.

I was gonna say, isn't there a dental disease named after him?

I have Perial disease.

Yes.

Yeah.

So the show basically focus on this group of people that I guess they say young people.

I'm sorry, they.

Their young was played by old.

How it was in the 80s where you're like, oh, you think everybody from.

From high school is perpetually 30 years old.

So anyway, they all had like these unusual abilities and then they were bought basically brought to under the supervision of government scientists.

Like this guy is Dr. Bob Roberts.

Which is funny because I know a guy named Bob Rober.

Anyway, so they basically brought this team together and the thing.

Okay, so let me finish.

And then I got a comment about that.

Okay, the team basically it.

They included like this one guy who could generate electricity and then this teenage girl with telekinetic powers, which that was.

That was reminiscent of like Witch Mountain where she had to touch her, like she had to like mess up her hair every time she wanted to like throw a piece of toast through the air.

Anyway, so.

And then there was this gentle giant with superhuman strength, which.

I don't remember him.

I remember the gentle giant well.

Okay, so a very large, tall black guy and they call him a gentle giant.

Like he's going to be like an out of control tall guy.

Anyway, and he didn't have super strength as far as I remember.

Anyway, so they basically it's.

There's.

They go investigating these strange phenomena and experimental like things that happen that get messed up.

They go and they like save people basically.

And they operate in that tone of kind of like comic book and light action and character driven humor.

Kind of like Scooby Doo in an ice cream van.

Yeah.

Anyway, so it was developed in of course the 80s when everybody was going through the whole sci fi and superhero storytelling thing.

It was coming off of like Wonder Woman and the Bionic Woman, that whole type of genre.

And at the same time V was like super, super popular, so as Starman.

So there was just like all these series that were kind of in that same vein.

So they attempted to mix all the adventure, which fell flat if you ask me, with like these offbeat personality dynamics and everybody's always like trying to fight and come together.

And anyway, through it all it only lasted one season and it did so poorly that they actually took it off the air before the last episode could be aired.

You would think that this was like the Courtney Cox vehicle because the part.

And, and she just was boring in this role because she became so popular with like friends and everything like that.

This was basically something that they, they keep like whenever you talk about misfits, science, they're like, oh yeah, Courtney Cox was in that.

Like.

Anyway.

And even though it did not do well and it was taken off, it really became.

Became this like cult, cult TV show.

And people just love it and they're like, oh, it's so charming.

It's got it's 80s energy, which is basically like, we don't know what the heck is going on here, but we're having fun.

Look at our funky clothes.

Oh, and did you notice how they kept, like, making popular song references.

Like.

Like, they would say, like, oh, Gloria, she's got your number.

Or like.

Like, whatever.

Whatever.

Like, was this, like, top song of the week or whatever.

They would just, like, throw in some weird lyric from it, and I'm like, wait, what?

Did I hear that right?

Maybe if the show had been made just a couple of years later, MTV could have made it, and then they could have gotten the licensing rights for all that music.

Maybe there were a couple pop songs in it.

Actually, that.

That was kind of funny.

Yeah.

The.

So the whole thing is, like, the team is brought together by the.

The lead guy.

Right.

Okay.

And it says in.

In the descriptions that I read were that they were tasked with investigating strange phenomena and all this other stuff.

And.

Okay, here's the thing, though.

No, they weren't.

They were kind of rogue and did weird things.

Their powers were like, the world didn't seem to really notice or care.

Like, they were like, nobody.

I'm sorry.

If there was somebody that really had, like, Courtney Cox's characters, like telekinetica power where she had to mess up her hair and then suddenly men would fly through the.

The.

The air.

The government would be, like, keeping under lock and key and trying to investigate, like, what's going on in this one.

They were just like, okay.

And, like, she would do it in public, and nobody would really blink an eye.

They'd just be like, okay.

At least she's not having a nosebleed like in Stranger Things.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

It's like every place I'm like, keep some hankies together.

11's got to do something.

I mean.

Yeah.

It takes me back, though, because last year we talked about vibes with Cyndi Lauper, and the guy who has telekinetic powers was trying to move an ashtray.

Well, it took him a while to get to it, and then he let himself.

Yeah, like.

Or like, oh, what was it in.

In Charmed, when.

When Phoebe.

When Phoebe would touch something to get a premonition.

And then there was this one episode where there was a seer that said, oh, don't worry, honey.

I had to touch things, too when I first started.

So, yeah, it was just like, oh.

She had to, like, the way she, like, rub her hands through her head and act like she was like, oh, my God, this.

I'm squinting my eyes.

Oh.

And then, of course, you Know, she had to, like, see the.

Whatever she was doing.

Yeah.

Like, she couldn't, like, you know, like, if she was blindfolded, she was powerless.

She was just this snotty teenage girl.

Well, I mean, that's up to interpretation, too, also, because of the limitations they had with effects in those days.

Yeah, they sure knew how to do, like, make the film go, like, blinky, blinky for a second.

Yeah.

This.

This would be like where on streaming services they have the warning on there telling you that if you have epilepsy, because every time Courtney Cox's character uses her powers, they do a flashy thing, making a negative image on the screen.

So if you had.

No, if you had any doubt that Courtney Cox was in this TV show, just wait until she went to use her powers because then her hair would go back and it would be like.

It would be like 90s Courteney Cox for a moment.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's like Return to Witch Mountain, when the little girl always had to, like, put her fingers to her temples to make her little powers activate.

So.

Yeah.

What?

Twin powers?

Right.

It's like, and.

Or like on.

On Charmed where Pru had to, like, squint her eyes to make something happen.

So, Matt, there had to be somebody who was responsible for this.

Oh, there were.

There were several.

Now actually, it's.

It.

It labels the creator as James Pa.

This was actually just throwing it out there.

This was a. Brandon Tartikoff actually came up with this idea because he would, like, read the.

He would read the.

What you call it.

The.

Like the.

The Inquirer.

The.

The red tabloids.

Yeah.

Yes, there.

That's the word I was looking for.

So he'd read the tabloids and be like, every week you could just take.

Take the plot from a tabloid.

It's like, oh, look, here's a.

Here's a sea monster or whatever it was.

Half human, baby.

Right, exactly.

So that.

That's kind of how it started.

James was in charge of that.

50, which makes him a Scorpio.

And he was basically already a writer, director and producer.

And he was.

He's actually known for creating and shaping some of the most well known cult science fiction and drama series out there.

And he.

He's had a few mainstream.

Like remember Voyagers?

Yeah.

With John Eric Hexum.

Yeah.

Misfits of Science.

Of course.

Forever Night.

Which.

Man, I. I barely remember that.

Educating Matt Waters, the American Embassy.

No Clue.

And Defying Gravity.

Not the song.

Over.

Basically over his career.

He was also showrunner on many programs including like writer, producer and showrunner like the Incredible Hulk, Grey's Anatomy, Ugly Betty, oh, Sons of Anarchy.

I mean these are major fripplin shows.

So anyway, his work, I mean he's very well recognized in the industry.

Neither do I.

So.

But yeah, so I mean he's.

He's done a lot of really good work and some that thankfully can be considered called classics because girl, you wouldn't consider them anything else.

So.

Well, and.

And his boss there, Mr. Brandon Tartakoff, this was.

Yes, this was a show that was on the peacock NBC.

The folks that actually brought a Star Trek back in the 60s.

Brandon Tartakoff was the guy in charge of calling the shots at the studio.

So there's a lot of TV shows from this era that are.

Are that he's responsible for.

And we'll talk about some of the members of the cast because the cast sort of evolved over the short run that they had.

They got to include several guests that actually had other opportunities in their careers as time went on.

Misfits of Science might have been one of the first times that you saw them.

Maybe unless you're a little older than you saw them a lot, especially 70s guesters.

Oh my gosh.

Now something I should mention is that you said Voyagers before and of course many people may not necessarily be aware of that.

The, the lead on that show met an untimely end.

There was an accident involving a handgun that wasn't supposed to be loaded, not with live ammo.

Did you that the guy who played his adorable kid sidekick in Voyagers was actually played by Punky Brewster's own brother, Sale Moon Fry's brother was the boy wonder of Voyagers.

No, I actually had no idea.

I seriously, I had no idea.

But I will tell you that as we go along.

Maybe we'll talk about this later.

I don't know.

This series, the actors that were involved in it either died not long after or did not get.

Did not go on to have lucrative careers.

Except for Courtney Cox.

So I have this conspiracy theory that I'm going to throw out there that she killed them all and.

Well, was she with.

Was she faced it with a decision at the tender age of 27?

Because there's that whole 27 club out there.

Oh, I have no idea.

I wouldn't be Surprised.

Yeah.

That not many of the actors went on to do.

They went on to do some.

Some really interesting things.

I mean.

Well, anyway, we'll talk about this.

Well, let's just rip off the band aid, because what we talked about, untimely passing.

Yeah, he had a very kind face.

He had some handsome attributes.

He didn't.

That's because his daddy was a crooner.

Mr. Dean Martin himself was the.

The.

The father of the leading man and Misfits of science.

So, Mr. Dean Paul Martin.

So he was born in 51.

Sadly, he passed just a couple of years after Misfits of Science.

And no, the.

The show going off the air was not his end.

He was.

He was a thrill seeker.

And unfortunately, he was a pilot as well.

So there was an unfortunate thing that happened there.

Mr. Dean Paul Martin, who was a singer, actor, athlete.

Ooh.

And military pilot.

And as I said, he was a son of Dean Martin.

First found famous, a teen member of the pop trio Dino Desi and Billy.

So with a name like that, I'm assuming that he knew Lucy's boy.

Probably.

Probably, yeah.

So he scored Billboard hits in the mid-60s, and he later became a successful tennis player.

Oh, I wonder if he knew Lindsey Wagner.

Honestly, in.

In those days, it seems like everybody knew everybody, so I wouldn't be right.

He became a successful tennis player and start off as the Ally Mc Gro in the 79 film Players.

Do you remember that?

I don't.

Do you?

No.

Earned him.

Where are we here?

Oh, a Golden Globe.

Golden Globe, yeah.

Now, Paul Dean.

Paul appeared on television, Most notably as Dr. Billy Hayes in Misfits of Science alongside Courtney Cox.

And he was a licensed pilot from the age of 16.

He served as a captain in the California Air National Guard.

Now, mind you, he's the child of a celebrity, so maybe he got his pilot's license at the age of 16 because he wanted to get out of Dodge.

It could be he was flying F4, F4 Phantom 2 jets.

Really expensive airplanes.

Oh, yeah.

Paid by the military.

Martin was killed at 35 when his jet crashed during a training flight in California.

San Bernardino Mountains.

That's where everyone disappears.

There's a.

There's a triangle or a phenomenon somewhere.

I wouldn't be surprised.

I mean, he.

He probably secretly had guest appearances on Stargate and we weren't aware of it.

His final film appearance is in Backfire.

It sounds like an adult film which was released posthumously and dedicated to his Memory.

Oh, yeah.

Is it very sad?

I. I remember when it happened and I was just like, wow, what a.

What a waste.

I mean, you know, I'm career and an actor and a hot guy.

So, I mean, not to make light of it because losing a loved one is a tragic thing.

Enough.

Did Dean Martin had eight kids.

I wouldn't be surprised.

I mean, when you look like that and you're rich and you're famous and you can actually support them and all that other stuff.

Being of Italian descent and being Catholic, probably.

Oh, yeah.

Have to populate the world with.

So let's bring out our nerd lunchbox and check our cards here.

He only did 11 acting credits or 11 acting projects.

Yeah.

Huh.

I mean, it makes you wonder what got him his SAG card.

Not this.

And this is the only thing that I've seen with him.

Although knowing other things that he's been in, I sort of inspired vis a vis nostalgia to watch the TV series the Hitchhiker because it had similar vibes to another 80s film that's a favorite of mine, my science project.

Dean Paul Martin had a guest appearance in that.

Apparently it was only one episode though.

Anyways, how about you?

Have you seen anything else with him?

Unless I saw it and didn't realize it, I've only seen him in Mississippi Science.

Yeah, yeah, that.

That was.

That was plenty.

I. I think that I liked his character pretty much more than I liked anyone else.

His character.

So, I mean, he was sort of the pretty boy of the show because he was always flirting with the women in the cast.

His character, at least.

Yeah, there was for a little while there.

I mean, it only had 16 episodes.

There was a joke between one of the leading women that the baby she was carrying could be his.

Yeah.

Which was really weird that she was like pregnant on the show and it's supposed to be like her boyfriends that left or whatever.

I'm like, oh, that's very forward thinking for them.

Yeah.

For.

For the Reagan years.

Of course.

Well, right.

And like, okay, misfits, the science, like they're off on adventures and being shot at and all this other stuff and she's pregnant, running around with them.

Like, what the.

The other thing about, though, that I think that really he was the.

He was the hope of the show.

He was the.

Come on, guys, we can do this.

I mean, he was the, like the, the cheerleader and the, the one that held them together when the.

Because the rest of them, their characters were often really negative and he was the one going, no, let's we're the team leader.

We can do it.

Yay.

And I think that that kind of made his character very likable.

He was.

He was kind.

The teacher in study hall.

You were all there and you didn't necessarily want to be.

They had to make sure you got along.

Right.

And he was.

And I think the thing too, was that his character, especially in the beginning, was very smart.

I mean, he was a scientist.

He was basically finding all these people and learning about them and how they could do things in genetic modifier, genetically modifying rats and stuff like that.

I don't think you saw that episode, made a super strong rat.

It was crazy.

Oh, yeah.

I think that.

That the animal was featured in another episode that might have been.

Yeah, right after.

Yeah.

As we both know, as people who are fond of animals, this time frame is difficult to watch sometimes because you don't know how far they're going to take it.

Right.

And.

And like the.

The giant bunny.

Remember the giant bunny?

Huh?

Yeah, giant.

I mean, the.

I think that his character, they.

As it went on, they started to play him more as kind of a.

A more a yuck character than the.

The.

The more fun scientist.

Right.

So that.

I think that was kind of.

Kind of sad.

At the same time, he was more than he was.

His character was supposed to be more than just the pretty boy who was like, trying to get with any woman that would let him.

Yeah.

In the traditional sense of the term, when they write comedy, they.

They call somebody a straight man when they're like the butt of the joke.

So.

Right.

This guy was sort of the straight man in the comedy troupe of misfits, AKA circus freaks.

Right.

Yeah.

And.

And also he was the only one who didn't have.

Well, not the only one.

He didn't have a power.

Sometimes Jane would tag along and she didn't have a power for the most part in their little group, he was the one who was just like the human.

His.

His power was positive thinking and making

up plans like anybody who had to live through the Reagan years.

Right.

Yeah.

Oh, and that's another thing is like, everything became nuclear with, oh, we have to stop this, because it's going to do that.

Oh, my God, they made the beam.

Well, you know, at least they could pronounce the word then.

We hadn't forgotten how to yet.

Yeah, exactly.

So you were saying.

Of course, we both acknowledged the fact that.

That the show got canceled.

Yeah.

Didn't know what it wanted to be.

How was it received?

What did the people say about it?

Not super Well, I mean, I think a lot of people that watched it probably liked.

Was not received well.

It got very mixed reviews.

Critics actually appreciated that it had this imaginative premise and the kind of comic book energy, which was very much how things were starting to go.

And people were more interested in that type of thing rather than watching westerns and every.

Every other show.

So since it was kind of lightweight and.

And everything, it.

It did.

It.

It was liked.

It was also uneven that it didn't.

Nobody knew whether it was like, aimed at children or adult science fiction fans or.

And what we.

It.

Nobody figured out its audience.

It.

It would blend humor and adventure and then of course, the superhero elements of it, while it made it kind of quirky and really was difficult to categorize.

And the big problem, though, and this was something that killed a lot of shows, AKA Voyager, that it struggled in the ratings because they kept changing its time slots.

They kept moving it around to try to kind of figure out where to put it.

At the same time, you do that, especially back when you have to rely on the TV Guide to know when the heck anything's on.

If it's.

If something isn't regularly where it's supposed to be interrupted by football.

Voyager, people don't find it.

And then it doesn't do well in the ratings.

And then finally CBS canceled it after running 16 episodes.

There was a 17th episode, but they canceled it before it even ran.

And in its final were showings, it was up against like.

I forget what it was like Falcon Crest or something.

It was up against like, this major show from another network.

So it.

It didn't have any chance.

Over time, it became like a.

Out there, maybe those that didn't live through it.

I don't know.

It's.

It does have a playful charm.

And again, it's one of Courtney Cox's earliest television roles.

I mean, do.

Do Courtney Cox fans just watch like that Bruce Springsteen video she was in, like, over and over and over and just be like, oh, Bruce Springsteen's popular because in Courtney Cox, right?

So if I were to describe this show to somebody who's never seen it, I think the best way I could summarize it is it's sort of somewhere in between a show about the occult, like later on the X Files, and sort of like a Ripley's Believe it or not type thing.

I mean, the name itself of this other show is misleading.

Because Friday the 13th was movie about a janitor that went on a rampage with it with knives and whatever.

There was a TV series called that too.

And it was a shop.

It was like an occult bookstore.

The artifacts that were in the collection at the store all had these interesting properties, AKA magical abilities.

And then of course, like a generation later, we eventually got the really Great Show Warehouse 13 that expanded that concept.

For what it's worth, Misfits of Science was just sort of a random attempt to do a freak show a la comic book.

Superheroes, right?

So, yeah, it was.

You were saying, Matt.

I was.

You were.

You were just gonna tell me about the guy who was competing for the paycheck at Misfits of Science there, who was the number two.

And I don't mean number two in this bathroom department.

Actually, speaking of, he may have been the number two on the show because of course, beautiful Dean Paul Martin was the.

The lead as we were introduced.

Kevin Peter hall was actually the actor who was considered the second lead.

I was just thinking that he was something for everyone because if they were targeting a demographic, you got minority and everyday person.

Right.

Okay, so back to he.

So basically he was the.

The second.

Second lead.

He was the one who was.

Was the.

The more grounded, even though he was one of the Misfits.

He.

And see, here's one of the things about the show is that it was very mixed.

Like some of the people like him, he injected himself with a serum to get his superpower, which was basically shrinking.

He could touch the back of his neck, which would release what I guess the chemical, and he'd shrink to like 6, 8.

8 inches tall.

So anyway, but doll sized.

Yeah, he was.

He was a scientist who worked with.

With the other character.

As far in real life, Kevin Peter hall was an actor who was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, who stood 7 foot 2 inches tall.

Oh, my.

Yeah.

He began his career, and you'll never believe this, as a standout basketball player with Penn Hills High School before basically switching and studying theatrics at George Washington University.

So he did actually play basketball in Venezuela.

We don't talk about that.

Before he moved to Los Angeles to pursue acting.

And he became known, of course, for playing large, physically imposing roles like Dr. Elvin L. Lincoln on Misfits of Science.

He also played Warren Merriweather on 227 from 89 to 90, which I did not remember that until I read this.

Here's the thing.

He also played, you will not believe this, the alien creature in both predator films, Predator 1 and Predator 2.

And he played Harry in Harry and the Hendersons.

Oh, the movie and the TV show.

So it was.

And it was later on the set of 227 that he met and later married his co star Elena reed Hall.

Oh, geez.

Same age as Dean Paul Martin when he died.

Oh, well, there wasn't a conspiracy.

Well, not conspiracy, but it's one of those weird things.

Nope, no bad juju there.

I mean, yeah, so if, if somebody were to write fan fiction of Warehouse 13, they'd probably say that handling a copy of the script from Misfits of Science was a sentence of death if you were not yet 35 when you touched it.

Oh, that's the awful thing to say.

How dare you.

I know.

It's an idea for an episode of Warehouse 13.

Someone get on that.

Right.

Yeah.

Well, nobody's going to touch a script for, for that anyway because.

Oh, it's Misfits of Science.

No, thank you.

Right.

I mean, you probably wouldn't.

Well, you be remembered if you were in the autograph line and that's what you wanted autographed.

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Do you remember, do you remember when in the early days of like ebay and stuff like that, they would actually auction off, like, scripts from.

Oh, yeah, that was like, I always kind of wanted.

I think I had one actually signed by somebody.

I don't, I don't have it now.

I don't even remember what it was, but it was.

Right.

It was something.

Yeah.

I remember when ebay started, it was so controversial because you had to have a credit card or something, right?

Yeah.

So the, this guy here, Mr. Kevin Peter hall, he got more work than, than Dean Paul Martin because apparently he wasn't as picky with his paychecks.

Well, yeah, so he got, he got 19 acting credits.

He had, he had.

He was in several series that were somewhat successful that he was in.

So he actually did a lot more acting than, Than the.

Than Martin did.

So.

And I, I know that when we're comparing our nerd cards here, I've seen six of those.

19.

And I didn't occur to me because he was in the suit.

That's something we should know.

In Harry Anderson, he was the guy who played basically Bigfoot.

And I mean, I would be in all this man's career anyways because I'm the type of nerd that like to hear about stunt people talking at conventions because they work so and so as their body double too.

Yeah.

To think about Harry and the Hendersons, that means that this guy had worked with John Lithgow, who was the husband in Harry and the Hendersons.

Yeah.

And Melinda Dylan, who was in Right of Way.

Also, more importantly in Christmas Story is the mom.

Right.

So.

Well, it's like.

And I'm blanking on his name now.

In Star Trek Discovery, he was our big tall Jones.

He was like the second in command.

The one with the.

Oh, Saru.

And it was played by Doug Jones.

Yes, right, Doug Jones.

So Doug Jones is somebody that.

I was like, well, this is a Very interesting character.

And then I watched him on Discovery all that time and I was like, he's really interesting.

I wonder if he's done anything else.

Oh, my God.

I've been watching him for like 20 or more years do all these amazing parts, and I had no idea it was him because he's almost always in makeup and costume, like things where we would never recognize that it was him.

And just by virtue of the fact that the characters that Doug Jones has played over the years has had to have very athletic and or dancer type abilities.

It makes you jealous of Doug Jones's spouse.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, that's one of the things is same with this guy.

It's like I remember him from Misfits of Science.

And then I look at his career and I'm like, oh, my God, I've seen him in so many.

Well, not so many.

A number of other things that I was like, I had no idea it was even him.

So.

So what were your favorites?

Well, I mean.

Well, wait, okay.

How many did you see?

You saw him in how many?

I. I've seen.

I seen him in six unknowingly.

He was in Harry and Henderson because he was in the costume.

I'm sure even though he only probably had one or two episodes that he was in in Night Court, that I've probably seen him there because Night Court was one of those shows that I watched with dad back in the day.

It was a prime time staple.

Yes.

He was the.

The guy who was good at sleight of hand, which ironically is technically what a p. A lot of people who lead a life of crime are good at.

He becomes a judge at night because the people who work at night are the folks who settled for their job.

They couldn't get the good shift.

Well, and you remember Night Court, why Judge Harry got his job?

I don't.

Because they went, they caught.

They.

They had a list of judges, a long list of judges, and they called each one and he was the only one who picked up the phone.

And that's how he got his job, because he was the youngest appointed to the bench.

So I. I was a huge Night Court fan.

I loved that show so much.

I struggled through Cheers just to get to it.

So anyway, I've seen.

So I've seen 10 of.

Of his projects and I didn't.

Again, I didn't even realize.

And I don't know if I necessarily have a favorite.

I. I just think that I liked him in anything that I saw him in.

So.

Yeah.

So let's Talk about some of the.

The acts, if you will, because normally, if we're talking about a movie, we talk about it in the format of the acts of the play.

These.

Because it's sort of a side show.

These are people with special abilities.

And so I'll lead the charge on this one.

I'm going to talk to you about the guitar hero here, Mr. Johnny B.

Because what else are you going to call a rock star?

Johnny B. Bukowski, played by Mark Thomas Miller.

Now, the character was a rock and roll musician who was electrically shocked on stage, which resulted in disturbing electric powers.

And he probably has some other issues that they never talked about.

He continually drains and electrically charges items in his surroundings, forcing him to live in isolation.

Now, can you imagine nowadays with cell phones, he could wirelessly charge your whole phone just by holding it.

Yeah.

He could also de.

Charge it, too, just by walking down the street.

Like, everybody's phone just stops talking, you know?

Right.

I just bought.

Bought this phone, and now it's bricked.

Right.

He wears sunglasses because his eyes glow when he's fully charged.

Oh, is that a.

Is.

Is that a.

The pro.

A promise of a good time there.

He could throw lightning bolts forcefully and run a super at superhuman speed, easily out tracing.

Out.

Out of tracing out racing.

In one episode, a parody of the Six Million Dollar man, he is vulnerable to water because, of course, don't get in the tub of the bat the toaster, which circuits him and burns his skin.

And he is a big Chuck Berry fan.

Oh, yeah.

So.

So the whole.

The whole music, like, 19.

Or I was like, okay, we get it.

You don't have to keep saying lyrics and stuff in, like, every episode to get that we know that you like that song.

And they just had the one.

Okay.

The thing about this character that got me was that it was so non.

What's the word?

Where it was like, not.

Not cohesive.

Oh, gosh, my brain is fried.

It was.

It was.

It didn't make it.

Whatever.

Oh, inconsistent.

Okay.

Like, sometimes he could touch people.

And sometimes he would touch people and shock them.

Or he'd be like, oh, I can't have any water.

Well, how do you take a bath?

Okay, girl.

Because you come on.

And then like, oh, I can't be near any water.

And yet he goes walking along the beach.

Like, come on.

There was.

And then, like, sometimes he could throw lightning bolts.

Sometimes he could run really fast.

Sometimes he could.

Couldn't.

Sometimes I can't do that.

I can't it's like they didn't have a consistent thing for him.

And like, he would kiss people or hug people.

And then other times he's like, no, don't touch me, I might shock you.

Or I was like, I. I would.

I was thinking that if they had to have a lunch run, go for something, get the food, he probably wouldn't be allowed in the convenience stores because they have those signs that warn you, if you've got a pacemaker, don't come in because we have microwaves.

All right.

And that's another thing.

Like, why.

Why could he be in the van?

Why wouldn't he have drained the battery?

When he drains the radio, but he doesn't drain the battery.

I don't come on.

And like, I don't know, it was just.

It was inconsistent.

And that always kind of bugs me with sci fi stuff.

So tell me about Courtney Cox's character.

Oh, my God, Courtney Cox.

This whole show was all for her.

I know.

She was the Punky Brewster of misfits of science.

And don't get me wrong, I like Courtney Cox.

It was just like.

Anyway, she basically played this troubled, telekinetic teenager.

Oh, and she had this history of juvenile delinquency and a mother in a mental institution.

So she had, of course, introductory episode.

She had to be in jail, which.

And they have a probation officer.

Anyway, her mother, who's in a mental institution, claims that her father, Gloria's father, was actually from outer space, which that would have been interesting if they ever brought it in.

They never really followed up on that, I don't think.

Then she had, of course, a crush on Johnny, which lasted like one episode.

And she was just.

Her character would just cry hysterically and then telekinesis people away from her.

It was awful.

Anyway, she could only use her television telekinesis on things that she could actually see.

So, like, if you blindfolded her, it's supposed to render powerless.

And I'm like, well, if she could see the blindfold, why didn't she just telekinesis the blindfold off of her head?

So again, inconsistencies.

But her character.

One of the things I thought was interesting about her character is they is her character wanted to be normal and, like, wanted to, like, she would work fast food jobs.

But she was so nice that if people didn't have the money, she just, like, give them the food and then pay for it herself, you know?

And so she was.

She had like, the most opportunity to have character growth.

And they never did anything with Her.

And she was supposed to be a teenager, though.

She was supposed to be like, young, young.

And I'm like, like, girl, Johnny ain't gonna date you because he's 30 and

only they had a second season, Right.

If they had a second season and a showrunner and a good script writer who could really pack the, the punch, it could have been great.

This was just.

They were struggling to get stuff out because they, it was one of those NBC Tartakoff years.

Were just like, here's an idea, make it happen.

And they had to run with it.

So they probably didn't have a chance to develop anything.

Just run with it.

Anyway, so the, you got the, you got the guy with the electric pun intended guitar.

You've got the goody two shoes girl that's a juvenile delinquent that she can.

Yeah, she can blast things with her brain.

And then you got the, the goody two shoes who's a. I guess she's a normie, because just like Dr. Easy on the eyes, she's got no powers.

Ms. Nance.

Well, actually, so, yeah, she's the secretary who you're talking about is Jennifer Holmes.

Right.

Next one down.

Okay, go for it.

I'm getting ahead of myself.

We'll get back to Jennifer Holmes.

So.

Oh, no.

Do, do, do.

Jennifer Holmes.

Oh, well, someone did.

Gloria's probation officer.

Jennifer is Jennifer Holmes.

She was Jane, really a plain Jane.

She was attracted to Billy, who is the.

The head doctor Easy on the Eyes.

And she's often put off by his eccentric behavior.

Right.

Character appears only in the earlier episodes.

So she, she got scared off, apparently disappearing after the first seven episodes.

And then Jennifer Holmes is still in the opening credits though, so she got paid.

So she got to stay in the titles.

Yeah, she got to stay through like episode 12 in the titles.

But yeah.

Okay, so disappearing after the first seven episodes.

And within those seven episodes, she.

They said she was pregnant.

Right.

And that they never followed up on it.

They never did anything about it.

The thing was.

Okay, so you have court.

The reason that I, I asked you to do that one next was because Courtney Cox, travel teenager.

Yep.

She's.

She's on probation.

And so she goes on these outings trying to save the world with her probation officer in tow.

Right.

And not only is the probation officer is.

Is Jane like super.

Like I'm in the Go Go's band.

Like, she's got the little 80s bob hair, not bob, like short lesbian haircut.

And she's out there.

I'm doing all this stuff too.

I'm like, she's there because she's making sure Gloria doesn't get in trouble.

Why would you take your probation officer along with you on these days?

And then she gets into trouble, quote, unquote, too.

Yeah.

And anyway, I just thought that was.

Was.

That was hilarious, that they're like, oh, I'm gonna go along with it.

I mean, considering the time frame, though, it could have been Brandon Tartikoff's love child.

Very.

Could have.

Very well could have been.

So I. I will take.

I'll.

I'll talk to you about Max so that you can go back and talk about Diane.

Unless, you know.

Sure.

Okay.

So.

So Max, Max Wright, he played Dick Stetmeyer.

Okay.

What.

What show?

Okay, what show in the 80s or 90s did not have somebody named Stetmeyer that was in charge that they all hated?

Right.

Well, and Dick, because he had to be the token straight guy.

Yeah.

Hey, Dick.

So he was the uptight director now.

Not.

Not the first one.

The first one there was, like, Larry Linville and all that.

I guess they got.

Got killed.

So.

Yeah.

So he played the uptight director of the Humanidine Institute.

I wonder how long it took him to come up with that name.

But unlike the other cast members, he isn't actually considered to be one of the misfits, but he's kind of like their.

Their overseer.

Like, they're the one that they report to.

And like, okay, are they.

And when you're watching this, like, are they military?

Are they science?

A science lab?

What are they?

Exactly?

You never really understand.

You just know there's this nebulous humanidine, and then Max Wright comes on and whines and squeeze over everything.

Mr. Stetmayer.

And should be noted that Mr. Stepmeyer is played by an NBC actor who would later go on to be the dad in the TV show alf.

Alien life form.

Yes.

And it's funny because he actually didn't have that many credit.

Acting credits.

We'll talk about that later.

Tell us about Diane.

Well, Diane, Savita, she played Ms. Nance.

Nancy Pants.

She was a scientist secretary.

And although she usually seems more interested in doing her nails, going on her coffee break, and watching her soap operas, she's actually one of.

She's the one who keeps the department running and is always there at the end of the series to turn off the lights and say good night to the rabbits in her cages.

So she was sort of the.

The Annie Potts of the TV show.

She was the gal who kept everything together.

Yeah.

Of the Ghostbusters.

Annie Potts of the Ghostbusters.

Right.

So, yeah, totally Ghostbusters.

What do you want?

But I love her and I, I didn't even realize that she was in this show until we started watching it again.

She was also Willie's love interest in V. And she has been in so many things like guest stars and stuff like that.

Roles that I, I've watched and loved her for so long.

So long.

She definitely is one of those recognizable faces and hairstyles.

Every time I saw a picture of her recently, no, her hair is flat.

I had no idea who she was.

I was just like, wow, different.

Very different.

Anyway, hey, so let's talk for a second about Mickey Jones.

Yeah, that was the character in the pilot episode, right?

Yes, he played Arnold.

Arnold Beef.

Well, he played Arnold Beef.

Inator Beef.

Isn't that a brand?

Isn't that a brand of gin?

Either that or like knockoff Slim Jims.

So he played both Beef and Iceman.

Okay, okay, so he.

And, and this is funny.

And I'll tell you a little bit

why after you have to explain the joke.

No, I'm just kidding.

Oh, yeah, exactly.

Who?

And he did it due to grief apparently caused by the loss of his loved Amelia Earhart.

So during the whole pilot episode, he just walks around like, Amelia, Amelia.

And of course I'm going, oh God, it's not going to be Amelia Earhart, is it?

Sure enough.

Yeah, yeah.

Anyway, the.

The team drives around in an ice cream truck.

International metro might M80,800 in case anybody was like curious because.

Because the lumbering and now rather simple minded Iceman dies if he gets too warm.

That's why they ended up having the ice cream truck.

So basically they can keep him in the freezer.

And Beef only appears in the pilot episode due to legal objections from Marvel Comics who published the similar named comic character in X Men named Iceman.

The characters continue to use the ice cream truck through the whole series, even though.

So this guy never appears again.

And not only that, they actually have him listed as one of the cast, which is why we just talked about him, even though he was only in the pilot episode and he never appeared again.

And it was all because Marvel Comics.

Well, that.

And in those days they.

Well, at least for this show, they didn't have the budget to change the credits for the show.

Right?

Well, I couldn't see 17 episodes of him running around Going, and then.

And then I'll freeze the water.

And wouldn't he and Johnny clash.

So, I mean, the, the one funny thing about the pilot episode was the fact that he liked eating frozen candy bars.

Yes.

I thought they didn't do this.

They missed an opportunity.

They just assumed that he froze himself because he was in love with Amelia Earhart.

Right.

Troubled by it.

I was hoping that there was an actual real Amelia that wasn't Amelia Earhart that he would be reunited with before the pilot was over, but that didn't happen.

And then they tricked him into thinking that Gloria, or not Gloria, oh gosh, what's her name?

Jane, was, was Amelia.

So he'd just follow her around eating frozen candy bars, which would make him faint.

I didn't understand that.

So there was a whole.

I mean, while this show had a short run, it was an opportunity for a lot of people.

And we often talk about people who have quote unquote bit parts.

These are character actors.

These are people who maybe weren't cast in a leading role on a TV series.

They sure made their way around as guest recurring characters.

So we've got a lot of people who had guest appearances during the short 16 episode run of Misfits of Science.

Tell me about one of them, Matt, you got right on the top of the list there.

Oh, that would be Miss Crazy about you.

Oh, my gosh.

Hold on.

There we go.

Okay, so Kirsty Alley, fat actress herself.

And I say that because she was in a show called Fat Actress and I loved her till she went crazy and in the last few years of her life.

But she almost.

She almost had Spock's love child.

Yes.

Because she is another Star Trek connection that we have.

And she played Savic and we all know how that turned out.

Yes.

At least Spock got to have his rapid fire pon far with her.

Never understood that.

Right.

Yeah, you didn't mention it.

Mickey Jones, that was Beef.

He was actually later in his career a recurring guest on Tim Allen's Home improvement show.

Yeah, well, he played.

He did a lot of work.

In fact, I think he was in V2.

Yeah, yeah, I think he played Chris, who was.

Let me just look it up so I know what I'm talking about.

No, it's not gonna kill me.

Oh, yeah, so he, he was in V. He played the.

The second in command to the ham.

Oh, so he was one of the guys that wore sunglasses.

Yeah, he was.

He was one of the big bads who came in when he needed firepower.

And who's this guy that was in Cheers?

That would be John Ratzenberger, who was Kirsty Alley.

John Ratzenberger.

Yeah.

They.

They got around.

Yeah.

So a lot of up and coming.

He wasn't super known until he got to Cheers.

Now, there are of the top episodes that fans prefer, there was one that was called Steer Crazy, and it's a play on words because it involves beef cattle.

There's an episode where an object from outer space touches down in the middle of a dairy farm or a cattle farm, and eventually the meat is sold when the animals are slaughtered.

And there's a group of senior citizens who frequent this restaurant.

And of course, Courtney Cox's character Gloria is working there and she serves them these burgers that have been tainted by outer space.

So this episode, Steer Crazy had a gaggle of seniors who done a number of other things, including Ray Walston, who was my favorite Martian and one of my dad's favorites, Ms. June Allison, who was in a lot of the 40s and 50s.

In fact, one of her most notable roles in the early days of her career was she did one of the first film versions of Little Women where she played Joe, the aspiring writer that.

That what's her name that was in Heather's and Stranger Things as the moment.

You mean Wynonna, Writer.

Yeah.

Who is joining the cast of Wednesday.

Oh, yes, yes.

Yeah, yeah.

So June Allison played the part that was later reprised by Winona ryder in the 90s version of little Women.

And also one of the ladies that was in the episode Steer Crazy was a senior by the name of Ada Reese Marin.

Now, you wouldn't know her from anything else unless you're a crazy fan.

Like, oh yeah, she played the sweet old lady in the Christina Applegate movie Don't Tell mom.

The babysitter's dead.

Mrs. Sturek.

And they put a note on the the chest that they stuck her dead body in and it said, nice little old lady inside who died of natural causes.

Mrs. Durac.

Oh, yeah.

That was a fun movie.

Oh, absolute.

We have to talk about that.

Might be a spoiler.

We'll talk about it in the future here.

Who are some of the other people that peppered this short 16 episode season?

Well, let's start with Larry Linville.

Frank Burns for mash, who started only in the the first ep, the pilot episode again played an evil, snively little person.

Well, ferret face.

And then we had Kenneth Mars, who played the teacher on Malcolm in the Middle.

Oh, yeah, very Distinctive voice.

Oh, yes.

I mean, that's pretty cool.

We talked about Mickey Jones, that James Sloven, who was Sloan Slovian.

Yes.

One or the other.