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The Blind Man Who Saw God | Origin Series #07
1st November 2022 • CROWD Church Livestream • Crowd Church
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Esther Richards takes the stage - preaching John 9:1 - 10:42 from the other side of the world in our most visually stunning talk yet!

Join us as we journey through the story of a blind man being one of the most important witnesses in the world.

-- ORIGIN --


This topic is part of the Origin series where we look at the birth of the church and ask why this Man, Jesus, from 2000 years ago still has a major impact on the world today.


-- MORE INFO --


CROWD Church is a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps live a more meaningful life. We are a com­mu­ni­ty, a space to explore the Christian faith and a place where you can con­tribute and grow.


More info: www.crowd.church

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Matt Edmundson:

Welcome to this week's Crowd Church service.

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We are a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps

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us live a more meaningful life.

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We are a community.

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A space to explore the Christian faith and a place where you can contribute and grow.

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Our service uh, will last about an hour and in a few seconds you'll

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meet our hosts, uh, for our service, who will introduce today's talk.

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After the talk, we will have a time of worship and reflection, after which we

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head into Conversation Street, where we look at your stories and questions

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that you've posted in the comments.

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Now we want to invite you to connect with us here at Crowd Church, and we've got a

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few ways in which you can do just that.

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Firstly, you can engage with Crowd from any device during our

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livestream, and if you're up for it.

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Why not invite a few friends over and experience the service together?

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See, church is all about connecting with God and connecting with

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others, and one of the easiest ways for you to do that is join one of

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our midweek groups where we need.

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Online together to catch up and discover more about the amazingness of Christ.

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You can also subscribe to our fairly new podcast called What's the Story,

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Uh, where we deep dive into stories of faith and courage from everyday people.

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More information about all of these things can be found on our website at

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www.crowd.church, or you can reach out to us on social media at Crowd church.

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If you are new to Crowd or new to the Christian faith and would like to

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know what your next steps to take are.

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Well why not head over to our website, crowd.church/next for more details.

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And now the moment you've been waiting for is here.

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Our Online Church Service starts right now.

Dan Orange:

Hello there.

Anna Kettle:

Hi everyone.

Anna Kettle:

Good evening.

Dan Orange:

Well, you got a glimpse of who was leading today

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because I pressed the wrong button.

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So you saw our faces and then we went into the countdown.

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But hey, no one's perfect.

Anna Kettle:

It's all working out in the tech here.

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Aren't we?

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

So, um, I'm pressing the buttons today.

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My name's Dan and I'm with Anna, and she's gonna help us get through this.

Anna Kettle:

Dan said just before we went on air, everyone, Dan said

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he's really good at the tech side.

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I was like, Well, I'm not very good at the tech side, so what am I here to do?

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Apparently just chat at you for an hour.

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So that's all good.

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Isn't it?

Dan Orange:

Yeah, and I'm not quite the tech side.

Dan Orange:

We've that

Anna Kettle:

Matt Edmundson may not be here, but we've got it covered.

Anna Kettle:

So, yeah.

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Uh, how are you, Dan?

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How's your week been?

Dan Orange:

Yes.

Dan Orange:

Doing very good thanks.

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Had a good week, half term kids have been off.

Dan Orange:

Mm-hmm.

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, Uh, I've been at work, but we've had a nice time relaxed, um,

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all ready for the week ahead.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah, we've had, um, yeah, in the UK it's been

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half term here, hasn't it?

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And um, for anyone who's watching internationally, Yes.

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But, um, yeah, we've, my family just took the week off.

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Um, obviously my little boy has been off school, so we all took a few

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days off work and went to North Wales for a few days, which was very nice.

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Normally, I think North Wales is like one of those places where

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it just rains and it's very gray.

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But we had amazing weather this week.

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Surprising at the end of October.

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Um, yeah, we were, we were truly blessed with some sunny days

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and got on the beach and Oh wow.

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Went for some nice walks.

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It was amazing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We had a good week.

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Oh, brilliant.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You don't always expect that in October, do you?

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And no.

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Today, literally the clocks have just gone back, so it's, uh, yeah.

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Suddenly feeling very wintery and very dark, like I just, as I was

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logging on to meet Dan before it was like, It was half five and we

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were just logging in, weren't we?

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And it was like already pitch black.

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It's like, no, we're into winter.

Dan Orange:

I know the last few times I've, I've had to use this

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curtain to block out the sun and now all it's doing is blocking

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out the mess on my window sill.

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There's no sun streaming through

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. Anna Kettle: I love it.

Dan Orange:

Well that's great.

Dan Orange:

So, um, what have we got lined up for today?

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We got Esther Richards bringing the talk from probably the best location we've had.

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So it's, it's not in a room somewhere.

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She's doing the talk from a beach in Australia, which is pretty impressive.

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So looking forward to it.

Anna Kettle:

Ok.

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That pushing that is just pushing out my North Wales trip, isn't it?

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Like Yeah, I've been on the beach, but not quite like summer in Australia.

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So, Okay, we're bringing the glamour tonight then, aren't we?

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And it's truly international.

Dan Orange:

Yes.

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Uh, and then we.

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Anna and John Farrington doing worship.

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And then we'll be back with some Conversation Street.

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So we'll talk about the, the talk.

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So, um, put any questions in the comments.

Dan Orange:

Mm-hmm.

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, um, Yeah.

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Cause we'd love to have a go at answering them and see what you're

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thinking about Esther's talk.

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So, Great.

Dan Orange:

How are you?

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

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Are we all ready to go?

Anna Kettle:

Yeah, let's roll the talk then and let's roll the talk.

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As always post your comments and thoughts as we go through.

Dan Orange:

That'd be great.

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We'll see you at Conversation Street.

Esther Richards:

Hello from Sunny Lord Howe Island in Australia,

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I'm Esther and we're gonna be looking today at John 9 and 10.

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So first I'm gonna look at John 9.

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I'm just gonna read it out for you.

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Jesus heals a man born blind.

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As he passed by, its Jesus.

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He saw a man blind from birth and his disciples asked him, Rabbi, who sinned?

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This man or his parents that he was born blind?

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Jesus answered.

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It was not that this man sinned or his parents, but that the works

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of God might be displayed in him.

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We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day.

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Night is coming when no one can work.

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As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.

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Having said these things, he sat on the ground and made mud with the saliva.

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Then he anointed the man's eyes with the mud and said to him, Go wash in

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the pool of Siloam, which means sent.

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So he went and washed and came back seeing.

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The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar were saying, Is this

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not the man who used to sit and beg?

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Some said it is he.

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Others said No, but he is like him.

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He kept saying, I am the man.

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So they said to him, Then how were your eyes opened?

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He answered.

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The man called Jesus made mud, anointed and anointed my eyes and

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said to me, Go to Siloam and wash.

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So I went and washed and received my sight.

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They said to him, Where is he?

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He said, I do not know.

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They brought to the Pharisees, the man who had formally been blind.

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Now it was a Sabbath day when Jesus made the mud and opened his eyes.

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So the Pharisees again asked him how he had received his sight and

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he said to them, He put mud on my eyes and I washed and I see.

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Some of the Pharisees said, This man is not from God for

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he does not keep the Sabbath.

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But others said, How can a man who is sinner do such signs?

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And there was a division among them.

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So they said again to the blind man, What do you say about him

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since he has opened your eyes?

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He said he is a prophet.

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The Jews did not believe, the Jews did not believe that he had been blind

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and had received his sight until they called the parents of the man who had

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received his sight and asked them, Is this your son who you say was born blind?

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How then does he now see?

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His parents answered, We know that this is our son and that he was born blind.

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But how he now sees, we do not know, nor do we know who opened his eyes.

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Ask him, He is of age.

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He will speak for himself.

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His parents said these things because they feared the Jews.

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For the Jews had already agreed if anyone should confess, to confess

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Jesus, to be Christ, he was to be put out of the synagogue.

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Therefore, his parents said he is of age ask him.

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So for the second time, they called the man who had been blind and

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said to him, Give glory to God.

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We know that this man is a sinner.

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He answered whether he is a sinner.

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I do not know.

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One thing I do know that though I was blind, but now I see.

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They said to him, What did he do to you?

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How did he open your eyes?

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He answered this.

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I have told you already, and you would not listen.

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Why do you want to hear it again?

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Do you also want to become his disciples?

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And they reviled him saying, You are his disciple.

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But we are disciples of Moses.

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We know that God has spoken to Moses, but as for this man, we

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do not know where he comes from.

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And the man answered Well, here is an amazing thing.

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You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes.

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We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of

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God and does his will, God listens to him.

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Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened

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the eyes of a man born blind.

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If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.

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They answered him.

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You were born and up to sin, and you would teach us?

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And they cast him out.

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Jesus heard that they had cast him out and having found him, he said,

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Do you believe in the son of man?

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He answered, And who is he, sir that I may believe in him?

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Jesus said to him, You have seen him and it is he who is speaking to you.

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He said, Lord, I believe, and he worshiped him.

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Jesus said, For judgment I came into this.

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But those who do not see, may see, and those who see may become blind.

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Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things and said to him, Are we also blind?

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Jesus said to them, If you are blind, you would have no guilt.

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But now that you say, we see, your guilt remains.

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So in this chapter, We see Jesus healing a man who was born blind.

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Jesus does this in seem a quite strange way.

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He spits on the grounds and makes mud with saliva with his saliva and rubs

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that mud on the man's eyes and sends the man to go to the pool of Siloam to

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wash, which he did and he was healed.

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So it's a pretty amazing healing.

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Then there's this whole kerfuffle about it with the Pharisees afterwards, and

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they're questioning how it happened.

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They ask the man who was healed, they ask his parents, they ask the man who was

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healed again, and in the end it becomes a conversation about who Jesus actually is.

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The Pharisees are saying that surely Jesus cannot be from God.

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Cuz the day that he performed this healing was the Sabbath day or the

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Jewish Holy Day where they're not supposed to do any work, and they reckon

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that healing somebody counts as work.

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So if he doesn't keep the Sabbath, then surely he's a sinner.

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Surely he can't be from God.

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The parents of the man, uh, when asked are too afraid to say who

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they think Jesus is in case they get cast out of the synagogue.

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So the man who was healed then explains what he knows and

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what his experience has been.

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And he does that in verses 25 to 33 where he says, um, whether

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he is a sinner I do not know.

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One thing I do know though that though I was blind, now I see.

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And then he continues on to kind of talk about why he thinks who

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Jesus is, who he says he is.

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Um, because he talks about, you know, we, we've never seen a man, uh, who's

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been blind from birth to be to see again, people can't do that surely.

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And we know that God speaks to his people and speaks to good people.

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So he kind of uses his own logic to, um, see what he knows, see what

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he's experienced, and understand who Jesus is, who he believes

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Jesus has revealed himself to be.

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So this gets him cast out of his synagogue and Jesus hears about

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this and goes to talk to him, and Jesus then explains to the man who

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he is, which is in verses 35 to 38.

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All right.

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I'm just gonna read again.

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Jesus heard that they had cast him out and having found him, he said,

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Do you believe in the son of man?

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He answered, And who is he, sir?

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That I may believe in him.

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Jesus said to him, You have seen him.

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It is he who is speaking to you.

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He said, Lord, I believe, and he worshiped him.

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You have seen him.

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It is he who is speaking to you.

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Jesus is basically saying, It's me.

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I'm here.

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You've seen me, you can hear me.

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And the Pharisees got so caught up in the law and all the technicalities,

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and ticking the boxes and getting the days right that they miss Jesus.

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Don't get caught up.

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Don't get distracted by religion, by ticking boxes, by

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trying to get everything right.

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And miss who Jesus really is and who he's calling you to be, He has

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already revealed himself to you.

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The whole of the Bible is Jesus revealing himself and his nature.

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You have seen him.

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It is he who is speaking to you.

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That is relevant for all of us even now.

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We can also learn a whole lot from the response of the no longer blind man.

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The way the man responds to the questioning of the Pharisees is a really

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beautiful example of being a witness.

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We know that we are called to be witnesses to Jesus and to who Jesus is,

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and we see it many times in the Bible.

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I'm just gonna give you a few examples.

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So we see it a few times in Acts in chapter one, verse eight, which says,

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But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come up on you, and you'll

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be my witnesses in all Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria to the end of the earth.

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You see it again in Acts chapter 22, verse 15, which says, For you will be a witness

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for him, to everyone of what you have seen and heard and earlier you see it in

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Isaiah 43, verse 10, You are my witnesses, declares the Lord, and my servant whom

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I have chosen that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He.

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Before me no God was formed nor shall there be any after me.

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You are my witnesses, declares the Lord.

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So we're told to be witnesses for Jesus and it's a vital part of God's

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mission of what he's calling us to.

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But how do we do that?

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Well, in acts 4:20.

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Um, it tells us a little bit how to do this very briefly and simply, but in a

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really simple and easy to understand way.

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It says for we cannot, but speak of what we have seen and heard.

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That's it.

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That's all it takes to be a witness is to speak of what we see and what we hear.

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So Acts four tells us how to do it.

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Um, and the man in this story in John shows us how to do it.

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Cause in verse 25, he says very simply.

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One thing I do know that though I was blind.

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Now I see.

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He even admits that he doesn't know the full extent of everything he says,

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whether he is a sinner, I do not know.

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He doesn't take a really long time researching and, and trying to make sure

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that he knows all the answers and has all the understanding and all the technical

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words and everything worked out perfectly.

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He just says what he knows and what he's experienced, and that's

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what it means to be a witness.

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That is what we are called to do as well, to be a witness.

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And this man is an excellent example of that.

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So I'm gonna move on to John chapter 10, um, which is a brilliant chapter.

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It's a classic, you probably heard many parts of it before.

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Um, it's entitled, I Am The Good Shepherd.

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I'm gonna especially talk.

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Well that, that aspect of it, of Jesus being the good

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shepherd, I'm just gonna read it.

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Truly, truly, I say to you, this is Jesus speaking.

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He who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs in by another

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way, That man is a thief and a robber.

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But he who enters ny the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

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To him the gatekeeper opens.

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The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

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When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them and the sheep

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follow him for they know his voice.

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A stranger, they will not follow.

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They will flee from him for they do not know the voice of strangers.

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This figure of speech Jesus used with them, but they did not understand

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what he was saying to them.

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So Jesus said to them.

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So Jesus again said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door.

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All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the

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sheep did not listen to them.

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I am the door.

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If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.

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The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.

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I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.

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I am the good shepherd.

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The good Shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

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He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd who does not own the sheep, sees the

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wolf coming, leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches and scatters them.

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He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.

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I am the good shepherd.

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I know my own and my own know me.

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Just as the father knows me and I know the father and I lay down my life for

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the sheep and I have other sheep that are not of this fold, I must bring them

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also and they will listen to my voice.

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So there will be one flock, one shepherd.

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For this reason, the father loves me because I lay down my life

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that I may take it up again.

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No one takes it from me, but I lay it down at my own accord.

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I have authority to lay it down and I have authority to take it up again.

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This charge I have received from my father.

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There was again, a division among the Jews because of these words.

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Many of them said he has a demon and is insane.

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Why listen to him?

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Others said, these are not the words of one who is oppressed by a demon.

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Can a demonn open the eyes of the blind?

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At that time, the Feast of Dedication took place at Jerusalem.

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It was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple in the colonnade of Solomon.

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So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, How long

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will you keep us in suspense?

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If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.

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Jesus answered them.

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I told you, and you do not believe.

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The works that I do in my father's name bear Witness about.

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But you do not believe because you are not among my sheep.

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My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me.

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I give them eternal life and they will never perish.

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And no one will snatch them out of my hand.

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My father who has given them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to

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snatch them out of the father's hand.

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I and the father are one.

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The Jews picked up stones again to stone him.

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Jesus answered them.

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I have shown you many good works from the Father.

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For which of them are you going to stone me?

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The Jews answered him.

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It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you, but for blasphemy,

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because you being a man make yourself God.

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Jesus answered them is it not written in your law?

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I said, You are Gods, if he called them Gods, to whom the word of God

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came and scripture cannot be broken.

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Do you say of him whom the father consecrated and sent into the

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world you are blaspheming cuz I said, I am the son of God.

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If I'm not doing the works of my father, then do not believe me.

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But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works that

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you may know and understand the Father is in me, and I am in the Father.

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Again they sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hand.

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He went away again across the Jordan to the place where John

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had been baptizing at first.

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And there he remained.

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And many came to him and they said, John did no sign.

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But everything that John said about this man was true and many believed him there.

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So it's chapter 10.

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So Jesus says that he is the good shepherd.

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That he is the good shepherd who will lay down his life for his sheep.

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And actually, it talks about how he chooses to lay down

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his life for his sheep.

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Says no one takes it from me.

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He's talking about laying down his life and giving up his life.

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He says, No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord.

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Jesus was not forced to die.

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Um, he was not made to do it.

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He wasn't bribed into it.

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He chose to die for you.

Esther Richards:

It was always his choice.

Esther Richards:

It was always in his control.

Esther Richards:

Whether he wanted to do it said that he had the authority to lay his life down,

Esther Richards:

and that's what it talks about in verse 18.

Esther Richards:

This is clearly talking about what Jesus did on the cross,

Esther Richards:

that he chose to die for you.

Esther Richards:

Jesus always had the choice and he chose you.

Esther Richards:

He desires to know you.

Esther Richards:

Later in the chapter, he tells us, um, that it is he who gives us eternal

Esther Richards:

life and no one can take that away.

Esther Richards:

Verse 27 says, My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me.

Esther Richards:

And this is really similar to part in the last chapter where Jesus.

Esther Richards:

Um, reveals himself to the healed man where he says It is me.

Esther Richards:

It's he who has been talking, speaking to you, and the man believes and worships,

Esther Richards:

he hears his voice and he follows him.

Esther Richards:

This is a really clear call as to who we are supposed to be and

Esther Richards:

what we are supposed to do in response to Jesus calling to us.

Esther Richards:

Jesus is constantly revealing himself to us in the Bible, and this is our, this can

Esther Richards:

be our only response to believe to hear.

Esther Richards:

To listen, to believe, and to follow him.

Esther Richards:

To fall down in worship.

Esther Richards:

So I just wanted to make one last brief, very quick link,

Esther Richards:

um, between these two chapters.

Esther Richards:

In chapter nine, Jesus heals and reveals himself to one man.

Esther Richards:

And in chapter 10, he is talking about his devotion to the whole flock of sheep.

Esther Richards:

Jesus knows and loves us all as a group, every single one of us together.

Esther Richards:

But he also knows and loves you as a distinct individual.

Esther Richards:

He is always revealing himself to us because he wants you.

Esther Richards:

He wants to know you, and he wants you to know him.

Esther Richards:

Pay attention.

Esther Richards:

Don't get caught up by other things.

Esther Richards:

Know that you are loved, and be a witness to everything he is doing for you.

Anna Kettle:

Wow.

Anna Kettle:

Hey everyone.

Anna Kettle:

Looking back, what did you think about the talk?

Dan Orange:

It was amazing, wasn't it?

Dan Orange:

I mean, yeah, as an aside, I think we should have wave noise at

Dan Orange:

the background of all our talks.

Anna Kettle:

It was kind relaxing, wasn't it?

Dan Orange:

It was very relaxing.

Dan Orange:

Um, yeah, But I thought it was a brilliant, brilliant talk.

Anna Kettle:

Um, there was a lot of content in there, wasn't there,

Anna Kettle:

because they covered two chapters of the Bible, so she had a lot to cover,

Anna Kettle:

but just some amazing points in there.

Anna Kettle:

I mean, what was kind of something that really struck you about it, Dan?

Dan Orange:

I think, and I think you picked up on it in the comments as

Dan Orange:

well, that right at the beginning, this, this man gets healed.

Dan Orange:

He's blind from birth.

Dan Orange:

He can now see, but all the Pharisees are worried about is

Dan Orange:

Oh, but did he do it on Sabbath?

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

And I think we can miss the amazingness of what happens trying

Dan Orange:

to find fault and did someone break the rules or what's going on?

Dan Orange:

And yeah, Well, a thing that they missed.

Dan Orange:

This man's blind.

Dan Orange:

And that's the secondary part of the, you know, the, the story, isn't it?

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

It's amazing, isn't it?

Anna Kettle:

And you kind of think, Oh, the Pharisees are, they're such fools, Like they

Anna Kettle:

always seem to miss it cause they're so stuck on their religious rules and,

Anna Kettle:

and their sort of way of thinking.

Anna Kettle:

But then I, then it, then when I sit back and think about it challenges me

Anna Kettle:

because I think, well, maybe I'm not stuck on that kind of religiousness,

Anna Kettle:

but we're all, we all have.

Anna Kettle:

Kind of preexisting beliefs and views and way of seeing the world,

Anna Kettle:

don't we, in our own lens and how we think about God and what he's doing

Anna Kettle:

in the world, and who he can and can't use, and who he works through.

Anna Kettle:

And, you know, we all have our biases, I think.

Anna Kettle:

And it, it really challenges me to think, you know, it's exactly what Esther said.

Anna Kettle:

Like, don't miss what God's doing right in front of you, because it doesn't fit

Anna Kettle:

your narrow view of how you think God should work in your life or in someone

Anna Kettle:

else's life or in the world around us.

Anna Kettle:

I think so often what God's doing in the world doesn't necessarily

Anna Kettle:

fit on the boundaries of what churches is or religion is.

Anna Kettle:

And um, yeah, God's just so big, isn't he?

Anna Kettle:

I don't think he fits in this of narrow boundaries of, you know,

Anna Kettle:

human understanding full stop and yeah, kinda know that, but it's still

Anna Kettle:

challenging to think about isn't it?

Dan Orange:

Yeah, absolutely.

Dan Orange:

And but the one, the one thing, one person it wasn't challenging

Dan Orange:

for was the man that got healed.

Dan Orange:

So when some, when God doesn't think in you or to you, or for you is that's when

Dan Orange:

he was just a natural witness, wasn't he?

Dan Orange:

He was like, Well, you know, I know that sinners don't do these things, so

Dan Orange:

therefore he must have been from God.

Dan Orange:

You know, look at me.

Dan Orange:

I, I can see now.

Dan Orange:

It was just, it flowed out of him because of what God had done for him.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah, and I think, I think the other thing that really struck me

Anna Kettle:

about the talk was when she started talking about the Good Shepherd in the

Anna Kettle:

second chapter, and she talked about like how he chose to lay down his life.

Anna Kettle:

Um, Like he did it of his own accord.

Anna Kettle:

And I think, I'm just looking in the, the, um, comments bar actually.

Anna Kettle:

And Nicolas said, um, when you think about how Jesus had a choice to go through what

Anna Kettle:

he went through or not, and he, and he knew how much pain and abuse he would

Anna Kettle:

suffer, and yet he still chose to do it and think that's it, isn't it That.

Anna Kettle:

Just blows my mind.

Anna Kettle:

And I know the cross is kind of at the center of our Christian faith, and I

Anna Kettle:

know we know this stuff, but still, when you stop and consider it, it still,

Anna Kettle:

it still blows my mind to be like, Oh, he didn't do it cause he had to do it.

Anna Kettle:

You know?

Anna Kettle:

He, he chose, he chose that way.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

He chose to lay down his life.

Anna Kettle:

And that is it, it kind of blows my mind.

Anna Kettle:

It, it's beyond, it's beyond my comprehension really.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

That kind of love and sacrifice.

Dan Orange:

Dedication.

Dan Orange:

Um, I don't think it's, um, he, yes, it is in, in, um, in John 10 as well.

Dan Orange:

It says, Well, if there's a, a shepherd that's a hired shepherd,

Dan Orange:

he doesn't have that commitment.

Dan Orange:

You know, when, when a wolf comes, he just legs it, you know, let them, let

Dan Orange:

them, let the wolf have the sheep.

Dan Orange:

But he, he's got that personal responsibility.

Dan Orange:

He, he's, God, he's a son.

Dan Orange:

He couldn't, he, he chose to die for us, but didn't have to die for us.

Dan Orange:

But then, yeah, His, his love for us caused him to do it.

Dan Orange:

You know, it was like, there's probably theologians going to that, don't they?

Dan Orange:

Did he, could he choose it really?

Dan Orange:

Because he could not do it.

Dan Orange:

But, but, but he did.

Dan Orange:

He chose, and he did it for, he died for us.

Dan Orange:

Amazing.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Quite mind blowing, isn't it?

Anna Kettle:

It's like big stuff.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Um, the other thing that I found, um, just really good was like what she was

Anna Kettle:

saying at the end about um, how Jesus is like, you know, goes back it linked

Anna Kettle:

back to her original point, which is Jesus is always revealing himself and

Anna Kettle:

so he was revealing himself, you know, through healing that blind man and yet.

Anna Kettle:

Lots of the religious people around, didn't, didn't recognize, recognize how he

Anna Kettle:

was working, didn't recognize the miracle he was doing right in front of their eyes.

Anna Kettle:

They sort of missed it because were hung up on the wrong stuff and you

Anna Kettle:

know, and there was that challenge at the end wasn't there to like pay

Anna Kettle:

attention and like that, that kind of call that like Jesus is always

Anna Kettle:

revealing himself, He's always working in the world, he's always doing stuff.

Anna Kettle:

And like how much, how much are we paying attention?

Anna Kettle:

How much do.

Anna Kettle:

Do we see it?

Anna Kettle:

Or how much do we miss kind of what God's doing right in front of us?

Anna Kettle:

And that, that's challenging, isn't it?

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Yeah, absolutely.

Dan Orange:

I mean, through John's gospel, he keeps revealing himself and he keeps speaking to

Dan Orange:

different people, the Samaritan woman, and you know, I am the Messiah, um, the feed

Dan Orange:

of the 5,000, and they're asking who he is and he keeps saying, You know, I'm God.

Dan Orange:

And they say all these miracles of wonders and right back to that first

Dan Orange:

point that they miss it because they're trying to nitpick and trying to find

Dan Orange:

out, well, you know, does this, does this put me out of a job as a Pharisee?

Dan Orange:

Am I, I, I, yeah.

Dan Orange:

Will, am I, will I lose my standing if I side with this man?

Dan Orange:

Um, yeah.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

What are we going to, what we're gonna lose to side with Jesus?

Dan Orange:

What's it worth losing?

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

It's a, it's a big thought, isn't it?

Anna Kettle:

I, um, I obviously just think that whole thing of like paying attention to, you

Anna Kettle:

know, just being, being sort of aware and paying attention and looking for where

Anna Kettle:

God's at work in your sort of everyday.

Anna Kettle:

I think it's something that I'm constantly challenged to do.

Anna Kettle:

It's like you.

Anna Kettle:

Like Jesus wasn't always working in the sort of like obvious places

Anna Kettle:

in the synagogue or in the temple.

Anna Kettle:

He, you know, in the religious spaces of his day, he was like, you know,

Anna Kettle:

working with someone, you know, he's just sitting on the pavement.

Anna Kettle:

He's a blind man or.

Anna Kettle:

You know, he, he was teaching kind of crowds, um, who were passing by.

Anna Kettle:

And I just, it makes me think like some, quite often God's at work in

Anna Kettle:

the places where we least expect it or we're not necessarily looking for him.

Anna Kettle:

So for me, I know, you know, I'm expecting God speaks to me when I work

Anna Kettle:

into, walk into a church or, you know, maybe when I spend a bit of time reading

Anna Kettle:

my Bible or when I come something like Crowd Church like this, I'm expecting

Anna Kettle:

God to speak to me through the talk.

Anna Kettle:

Like, how much do I pay attention in my day to day life as I'm walking

Anna Kettle:

around working, taking my little one around, you know, whatever it is,

Anna Kettle:

like doing the jobs around the house.

Anna Kettle:

How much am I looking for God to be working when I'm on the

Anna Kettle:

school run, or you know, in my everyday non-religious like space.

Anna Kettle:

And that's the thing that always challenges me.

Anna Kettle:

It's like, you know, God's, you know, the Bible shows us that God's really at work.

Anna Kettle:

In those ordinary spaces and the everyday spaces of life and yeah,

Anna Kettle:

that's, I find that challenging too.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Um, it's,

Dan Orange:

I'm trying to form, form the question, but Yeah.

Dan Orange:

I agree with you..

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

If God.

Dan Orange:

Perhaps some of it comes back to religion, doesn't it?

Dan Orange:

Even just in our, how we live our lives that, like you said, when we're reading

Dan Orange:

a Bible, we expect God to speak to us.

Dan Orange:

When we're at church, we do, and that's, Yeah, some it, it's good.

Dan Orange:

Absolutely.

Dan Orange:

But it can be that religion bit as well, that God surely speaks

Dan Orange:

to us just in the day to day.

Dan Orange:

Just when we're, like you say, just when we're out and about because he's.

Dan Orange:

He doesn't confine himself to church.

Dan Orange:

He doesn't confine himself to those dedicated times, which is, which is

Dan Orange:

amazing that, that we serve a God.

Dan Orange:

We don't serve religion, We don't serve a set of rules.

Dan Orange:

We serve a living God.

Dan Orange:

I love, Yeah, I love that.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Makes all the difference, doesn't it?

Anna Kettle:

And I think that that call to pay attention as well.

Anna Kettle:

It's, you know, it rings really true to me because, um, I think we live

Anna Kettle:

in such a distracted age, don't we?

Anna Kettle:

Like, you know, we just have a lot of entertainment and social media and.

Anna Kettle:

You know, we, we we're always on our devices and our mobile phones, like

Anna Kettle:

we're not, a lot of the time, we're not paying attention to what's in front

Anna Kettle:

of us or to people who are in front of us or the things that are happening

Anna Kettle:

in front of us, because we're kind of half somewhere else, aren't we?

Anna Kettle:

We're always mm-hmm.

Anna Kettle:

Multitasking and like technology's wonderful.

Anna Kettle:

It's like, you know, enabling us to do this now and we've got people in

Anna Kettle:

Australia and we've got people, I think we've got someone from Kenya.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

All sorts of places.

Anna Kettle:

Wales, it's a great technology is such a blessing, but it's also like

Anna Kettle:

because of so much of the technology we carry in our own pockets and

Anna Kettle:

the ability to always be online and always be somewhere else, we also.

Anna Kettle:

Can miss what's in front of us, can't we, in our day-to-day life?

Anna Kettle:

And I am terribly guilty of that.

Anna Kettle:

I am a very easily distracted person.

Anna Kettle:

And um, you know, I do just think that challenge for me is massive

Anna Kettle:

that, um, , you know, it, it's that thing of like, um, you know, do I

Anna Kettle:

notice and am I making space for God in, in those everyday moments?

Anna Kettle:

Because I think our culture and the way the world is now, it's,

Anna Kettle:

it's harder and harder to be fully present, isn't it, in the moment

Anna Kettle:

and with what's in front of you.

Anna Kettle:

And I think, how much am I making space for God?

Anna Kettle:

How much am I just filling every spare second my day, scrolling online or you.

Anna Kettle:

When God could be speaking to me or be wanting to do something, and I

Anna Kettle:

dunno, I find that that's a constant challenge to me at the moment.

Anna Kettle:

I just, it's something I'm mulling on a lot.

Anna Kettle:

I feel like we're not very present as a tendency, like our whole culture.

Anna Kettle:

It's not, it's not about being present here and nose Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Wanting to work in the moment.

Dan Orange:

We, we sort of think it is with information, don't we think?

Dan Orange:

Well, we've got, we must be present because we get information constantly

Dan Orange:

to us about what's happening.

Dan Orange:

But that's just living.

Dan Orange:

It can just be living a different life, living a life of, of other people or of

Dan Orange:

events, not, not what we're doing now.

Anna Kettle:

Just having a look at what comments we've got.

Anna Kettle:

So Miriam saying that she thought it was special talk because it

Anna Kettle:

was really about God loving us.

Anna Kettle:

And I think that goes back to the, the point about, um, Jesus

Anna Kettle:

choosing to lay down his life.

Anna Kettle:

And I think, yeah, that was incredible.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

And I was just, as, as Miriam said, that I thought he, um, healed that

Dan Orange:

blind man, but he, he risked his life.

Dan Orange:

Just to heal him in a way, didn't he?

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

He, the, he could have got away with things.

Dan Orange:

He could have just talked.

Dan Orange:

Um, but the Pharisees wanted to stone him doing it on a Sabbath,

Dan Orange:

But that man was worth It.

Dan Orange:

Was worth, Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Um, being potentially stoned.

Dan Orange:

It was worth all the abuse that that man could now see.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

That's all right.

Anna Kettle:

That's.

Anna Kettle:

So look what else we've got here.

Dan Orange:

I think it's such a great analogy that we don't, we don't

Dan Orange:

even have to stretch it too far.

Dan Orange:

You know, he's blind and he can see that God wants to come just in

Dan Orange:

that's that, that he wants to bring clarity, but it's, it's that big.

Dan Orange:

He wants to give us life so we can be.

Dan Orange:

We're alive without.

Dan Orange:

I think we sang a song at church this morning.

Dan Orange:

It had something like lines saying where we were alive without breathing.

Dan Orange:

We're here.

Dan Orange:

But God wants to come and bring that breath he wants to bring.

Dan Orange:

Um, John 10 10 says that life in all its fullness, all its abundance.

Anna Kettle:

Um, yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Esther read that, didn't she?

Anna Kettle:

That was part of the passage.

Anna Kettle:

So yeah.

Dan Orange:

He wants to give, give us fullness.

Dan Orange:

Um, yeah.

Dan Orange:

Matt, let's put it on Matt crew, put it on about, um, getting in contact with us.

Dan Orange:

Cause if you've got, if you're watching this at a later date or even now,

Dan Orange:

please just, um, feel free just to send DM through, uh, at Crowd Church.

Dan Orange:

Get in contact with us.

Dan Orange:

If you want to know more about God, you want to know more about who he is.

Dan Orange:

Um, we don't do this for fun or to be on YouTube, , Um, we do this to tell

Anna Kettle:

cause we're not that professional.

Dan Orange:

No, I'd have to get my buttons pressed much, much better..

Dan Orange:

Um, we do it because we wanna tell people, tell you about Jesus

Dan Orange:

because his worth it is that's, it's night and days, black and white.

Dan Orange:

It's being blind and it's being able to see that's who God came

Dan Orange:

for, came for the individual.

Dan Orange:

I wrote that down in my notes.

Dan Orange:

That, um, and Esther meant to do it, that he came first as individuals.

Dan Orange:

So he came for the, the Good Shepherd as a flock, but he came as individual sheep.

Dan Orange:

He wasn't gonna allow one of us to get out.

Dan Orange:

And he says he's come to give us eternal life.

Anna Kettle:

Hmm.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

And there's, there's quite a lot in the Bible about like, um, The good Shepherd

Anna Kettle:

isn't there, and him being willing to go for one, you know, it's that, that

Anna Kettle:

thing of like, he'll leave the 99 to go and look for the one lost sheep.

Anna Kettle:

So it is about the whole flock, but it's also about, again, it's about individuals

Anna Kettle:

and that that's what springs to mind.

Anna Kettle:

I, I sort hear that and yeah.

Anna Kettle:

I loved what Esther had to say about it was they seeing him

Anna Kettle:

move and reveal himself to an individual in a really personal way?

Anna Kettle:

And meeting their really personal needs.

Anna Kettle:

And then it was a really practical need, wasn't it?

Anna Kettle:

Like you couldn't say.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Um, and, and yeah.

Anna Kettle:

And will say that thing of like, he's, you know, the good

Anna Kettle:

shepherd to everyone and Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

I like, I liked how she pulled the two quite different

Anna Kettle:

chapters together in a way.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

And there's that thread through all of that about Jesus revealing himself.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Mm.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Cause yeah, definitely.

Dan Orange:

. Yeah, the, shepherd says that he keeps us, he keeps us, that we can't

Dan Orange:

be snatched from his hands as well.

Dan Orange:

Um, and that's quite a big promise, isn't it?

Dan Orange:

That he's not just a one trick pony, he's not just gonna come and give you

Dan Orange:

some good feelings now and then, and that God came that we can have eternal

Dan Orange:

life and that we can be protected, that he comes to help us through when times.

Dan Orange:

When times are rough, when things are going on, it's not about the

Dan Orange:

good times, it's about that he's here for the hard times as well.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Anna Kettle:

Definitely.

Anna Kettle:

Um, there's also lots of jokes here about like, when is Matt

Anna Kettle:

gonna fly us all out to Australia?

Anna Kettle:

Yes, that's definitely a budget Question back to Matt.

Anna Kettle:

I think, well Matt says he'll take the plaster or visit.

Anna Kettle:

Hard but someone's got to do.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

We've got Matt Crew asking for birthday shoutout.

Esther Richards:

So there we go.

Dan Orange:

Happy birthday on Friday, Matt.

Dan Orange:

Hope you have a, have a good day.

Dan Orange:

Catching up a little bit to um, me and Matt, my ages.

Anna Kettle:

Cause he's nearly, nearly that old.

Dan Orange:

And we've got, um, we're continuing the series next week.

Dan Orange:

Um, John, chapter 11 next week.

Dan Orange:

Mm-hmm, We've got Dave Con coming to talk.

Dan Orange:

Not Coming to talk.

Dan Orange:

He will be talking online.

Dan Orange:

You can't really come to talk online.

Dan Orange:

Um, he's talking online, um, with Matt and Phil Watson next week.

Dan Orange:

So tech will be much better.

Anna Kettle:

Oh, it's been great tonight.

Anna Kettle:

Don't, don't do yourself down Dan.

Anna Kettle:

It's better than if I was yes, we're here.

Anna Kettle:

Everyone can see us.

Anna Kettle:

We're good.

Anna Kettle:

That, that's great.

Anna Kettle:

So, uh, yeah, definitely tune in again next week.

Anna Kettle:

Cause Dave Con's a great guy.

Anna Kettle:

He's got lots of good stuff to say, so Yeah, that'll be good.

Anna Kettle:

And they're doing John 11.

Anna Kettle:

So it's following on in the series on the gospel of John.

Anna Kettle:

Is that Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Anna Kettle:

Fabulous.

Dan Orange:

I think we're a bit early, but I think we've

Dan Orange:

answered everyone's questions.

Dan Orange:

So like I say, if you want to get in touch, wasn't it?

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

If you wanna get in touch, please get in touch.

Dan Orange:

If you've got any questions, just send them through.

Dan Orange:

If you've got any Prayer requests, then we'd love to pray

Dan Orange:

for you really, really would.

Dan Orange:

So, yeah.

Dan Orange:

Thanks Anna.

Dan Orange:

Thanks for being on today.

Dan Orange:

Pleasure.

Dan Orange:

And thank you very much, Esther, for bringing that amazing word.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

All the way from Australia.

Dan Orange:

Indeed.

Dan Orange:

Yeah.

Dan Orange:

Brilliant.

Dan Orange:

And we'll see you all next week.

Anna Kettle:

Yeah.

Anna Kettle:

Tune in next week guys.

Anna Kettle:

Have a great week.

Anna Kettle:

Have a great week Dan.

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