Would you feed your pet bugs? What about lab-grown meat? How about a vegan diet? From insect protein to cultivated meats and beyond, we’re exploring the landscape of alternative protein sources poised to transform the way we feed our pets, and even ourselves. In this episode, the second installment of our Trends to Watch in 2025 mini-series, we address cultural barriers like the "ick factor" surrounding insect protein and delve into cutting-edge technologies like lab-grown meat and bacteria that eat methane to become fermented proteins.
Helpful Links
Insect-Based Pet Food: Navigating Challenges and Opportunities in Product Development: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/insect-based-pet-food-navigating-challenges-opportunities-xqkgc/
Black Soldier Fly Larvae (BSFL) as an Alternative Pet Food Protein: https://bsmpartners.net/insights/black-soldier-fly-larvae-as-an-alternative-protein-source-in-pet-diets/
Learn more about Bond Pet Foods’ precision fermentation process: https://www.petfoodprocessing.net/articles/17131-food-is-science-and-science-is-food-at-bond-pet-foods
From Meat to Microbes: Eco-Conscious Evolution of Pet Food Proteins: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/from-meat-microbes-eco-conscious-evolution-pet-food-proteins-x0yyc/
Cultured Meat in Pet Food: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cultured-meat-pet-food-bsm-partners-v7wrc/
Plant-Based Proteins for Pets: https://bsmpartners.net/insights/plant-based-proteins-for-pets/
Could invasive marine species pose another alternative protein opportunity for pets? https://bsmpartners.net/insights/riding-the-wave-how-alternative-marine-proteins-are-revolutionizing-pet-food/
Riding the Wave: How Alternative Marine Proteins Are Revolutionizing Pet Food: https://bsmpartners.net/insights/riding-the-wave-how-alternative-marine-proteins-are-revolutionizing-pet-food/
Show Notes
00:00 – Welcome Back!
02:24 – Will Insect Protein Fly or Fail in the US Market?
06:23 – Getting Educated on Cultured Proteins
08:02 – What Are Cultivated Meats?
11:35 – What Is Precision Fermentation?
13:41 – Methane-Eating Bacteria and Custom Capabilities
16:53 – What About Plant-Based Proteins and Invasive Species?
17:48 – The Big Picture of Sustainability
18:57 – Final Thoughts
Welcome back to Barking Mad's Top Trends to Watch in 2025, in
Jordan Tyler:which we're sharing expert insights and opinions about the most influential
Jordan Tyler:trends happening today in the pet nutrition space, and how pet parents
Jordan Tyler:can stay informed and engaged as these trends evolve this year and beyond.
Jordan Tyler:In today's episode, we're tackling the question of alternative proteins.
Jordan Tyler:And boy, are there a lot of questions.
Jordan Tyler:As the world's population grows and our food supply chain remains finite,
Jordan Tyler:the need to identify alternative sources of key ingredients like protein
Jordan Tyler:has become increasingly apparent, both for people and for our pets.
Jordan Tyler:Insect protein offers a potential solution here, but Is it
Jordan Tyler:destined to fly or fail in the U.
Jordan Tyler:S.
Jordan Tyler:markets?
Jordan Tyler:Cultured proteins like cultivated and fermented meats are another option, but
Jordan Tyler:while great strides are being made in these areas as we speak, there is still
Jordan Tyler:work to be done in terms of scalability, pricing, and regulatory approval.
Jordan Tyler:Plant based proteins offer yet another path forward, but following the DCM
Jordan Tyler:debacle, many pet parents have a mistrust, whether misplaced or not, toward plant
Jordan Tyler:protein forward diets for their pets.
Jordan Tyler:But what about invasive species?
Jordan Tyler:These pose a severe problem for waterways in the United States
Jordan Tyler:and for biodiversity globally.
Jordan Tyler:What about incorporating proteins from those streams into pet food?
Jordan Tyler:These are just some of the questions looming over
Jordan Tyler:alternative proteins for pets.
Jordan Tyler:Over the course of today's episode, we'll go through each of these categories,
Jordan Tyler:focusing in particular on barriers for the adoption of insect protein in
Jordan Tyler:the American market, As well as the basis of cultured proteins and how a
Jordan Tyler:handful of companies are pioneering this technology for use in pet nutrition.
Jordan Tyler:Welcome to Barking Mad, a podcast by BSM Partners.
Jordan Tyler:I'm your host, Jordan Tyler.
Jordan Tyler:If you tuned into yesterday's episode on sustainable ingredient sourcing,
Jordan Tyler:you may notice alternative proteins fit quite nicely within that trend.
Jordan Tyler:As the quest for alternative proteins really stems from a need for more
Jordan Tyler:sustainable pet food ingredients.
Jordan Tyler:Along this vein, there are several approaches.
Jordan Tyler:But let's talk first about insects as a viable protein source for pets.
Jordan Tyler:When I sat down with Alison Rieser, Director of Sustainability and
Jordan Tyler:Innovation with the Pet Sustainability Coalition, She was practically
Jordan Tyler:buzzing with excitement to talk about this emerging alternative protein.
Allison Reser:Partially because I have a cat and, like, very anecdotally,
Allison Reser:like, she loves to eat insects that she finds, so, like, let's make
Allison Reser:this a formal part of her diet.
Allison Reser:There are a lot of companies out there innovating insect protein.
Allison Reser:With sustainability in mind, so they're collecting some really good life cycle
Allison Reser:assessment data about it and sharing it.
Allison Reser:So that is a space I think is going to be really important for
Jordan Tyler:PET.
Jordan Tyler:However, while insect protein may pose a great opportunity for
Jordan Tyler:sustainability and nutrition, the newness of the ingredient causes Dr.
Jordan Tyler:Renee Streeter, Board Certified Veterinary Nutritionist,
Jordan Tyler:to proceed a little cautiously.
Renee Streeter:As a nutritionist, when something new like that comes
Renee Streeter:out, you're like, well, I mean, sure, it looks okay, but what
Renee Streeter:about all the things we don't know?
Renee Streeter:What's going to happen when you feed it for 15 years?
Renee Streeter:I don't know.
Renee Streeter:But I will say, as time has gone on, these, uh, suppliers have done
Renee Streeter:a pretty good job of researching.
Renee Streeter:And there's, Last time I looked, quite a few insect protein studies in dogs
Renee Streeter:and even in cats, and so my cautiousness is being diminished over time.
Renee Streeter:The longer we use these things, the more studies we have.
Renee Streeter:Not that I still don't have questions, I do, but from a
Renee Streeter:nutritional standpoint, I become more excited and from a sustainability
Renee Streeter:standpoint, I become more excited.
Renee Streeter:And so now.
Renee Streeter:It's just a matter of can we win over the hearts of the general
Renee Streeter:public who, again, are maybe not as accustomed to eating bugs.
Jordan Tyler:What Dr.
Jordan Tyler:Streeter is describing here is the ick factor, or American consumers
Jordan Tyler:cultural hesitance to feeding bug derived protein to their beloved pets.
Jordan Tyler:The ick factor is certainly another barrier standing in the way of insect
Jordan Tyler:protein taking flight in the U.
Jordan Tyler:S.
Jordan Tyler:market.
Jordan Tyler:In fact, when we asked BSM Aperture, a powerful predictive tool helping
Jordan Tyler:bridge the gap between nascent trends and their real potential in
Jordan Tyler:the market, about whether insect protein would fly or fail in the U.
Jordan Tyler:S.
Jordan Tyler:market, it had some reservations about whether or not this
Jordan Tyler:trend would actually succeed.
Jordan Tyler:In part, due to bugs being gross in the eyes of American pet parents.
Jordan Tyler:However, according to Dr.
Jordan Tyler:Blaire Aldridge, Vice President of Nutrition Services at BSM Partners,
Jordan Tyler:this doesn't mean we shouldn't still move forward with research.
Blaire Aldridge:You hear bug and you're all like, bleh, initially.
Blaire Aldridge:But then you start looking at the research coming in over time,
Blaire Aldridge:and that will itself fly or fail.
Blaire Aldridge:Like it will tell us.
Blaire Aldridge:Good or bad.
Blaire Aldridge:And I will say this, there might be a time where it is necessary to pivot
Blaire Aldridge:because maybe disease comes through and knocks out the United States's poultry
Blaire Aldridge:population or whatever it might, the soy, it doesn't matter, but we should already
Blaire Aldridge:have Plans in place for alternative protein sources and have to research
Blaire Aldridge:there to know if it's okay or not.
Blaire Aldridge:Whether we love it or hate it, we should be studying it.
Jordan Tyler:So time will tell whether insect protein will truly fly
Jordan Tyler:or fail in the pet nutrition space.
Jordan Tyler:And while we're approaching this trend with a fair amount of skepticism, it's
Jordan Tyler:still going to be one to watch in 2025.
Jordan Tyler:Let's move now to an exciting trend making waves in the alternative protein space.
Jordan Tyler:Cultured proteins, which are created through two types of technology.
Jordan Tyler:There's cultivation and then there's precision fermentation.
Jordan Tyler:Before we get too in the weeds though, let's go inside the mind of Dr.
Jordan Tyler:Bradley Quest, Principal of Veterinary Services at BSM Partners, to understand
Jordan Tyler:why exactly these high tech ingredients could change the game for pet nutrition.
Bradley Quest:These are primary protein ingredients to use in pet
Bradley Quest:food that really are products of using, in one case, bacteria, in other
Bradley Quest:cases, yeasts, in some cases, using actual animal cell cultures to then
Bradley Quest:propagate and grow, if you will, natural proteins from these organic sources.
Bradley Quest:Now, the methodologies can be different, and in a lot of cases they are.
Bradley Quest:But the really cool thing about it is it meets a lot of what we're
Bradley Quest:looking for in the pet food industry.
Bradley Quest:We're looking for sustainable, and I know that word is used a lot, but most
Bradley Quest:of these really are sustainable in that we're not utilizing a lot of resources, be
Bradley Quest:it natural resources, organic resources.
Bradley Quest:Um, energy resources, in a lot of cases that we use for other protein sources,
Bradley Quest:being animal or plant sources, that takes a lot of agricultural input.
Bradley Quest:Not that those are definitely going away because they're not.
Bradley Quest:They're always going to be front and center, but what this does is it helps
Bradley Quest:take some of the pressure, I think, off of that and makes for really good
Bradley Quest:alternative sources for pet food use.
Jordan Tyler:So, let's get into this topic, starting with cultivated meats.
Jordan Tyler:Joshua Ehret, founder and chief executive officer of Friends and Family Pet Food,
Jordan Tyler:has been playing in this space for several years, and he's on a mission to change pet
Jordan Tyler:nutrition for the better, using technology that could revolutionize our food system.
Jordan Tyler:Cultivation, also referred to as lab grown meat.
Joshua Errett:Historically, it was used to study cancer, how a
Joshua Errett:cancer cell might grow or other cells in the human body might grow.
Joshua Errett:It was only in the 2010s, or the aughts, I guess they call them, that
Joshua Errett:they looked at this and it was like, if you can grow mammalian cells.
Joshua Errett:without a sentient body, then could you do this for the food system?
Joshua Errett:So that's for the genesis of it.
Joshua Errett:And then in, I believe it was 2009, they grew the first hamburger.
Joshua Errett:And then 2013, 14, I think the first patents were issued to
Joshua Errett:Memphis Meats, who are now upside.
Joshua Errett:foods in the space.
Joshua Errett:So from there, it became this idea that we could almost recreate the
Joshua Errett:entire food system on a cellular level, call it cellular agriculture.
Joshua Errett:And, you know, when you talk about cellular agriculture,
Joshua Errett:you're recreating meat.
Joshua Errett:So it's the entire tissue of the animal.
Joshua Errett:So that's fat.
Joshua Errett:muscle, connective tissue, the whole thing, which includes
Joshua Errett:proteins, everything that comes in meat, fatty acids, et cetera.
Joshua Errett:You're cultivating everything in the cell and creating the tissue.
Joshua Errett:And there are types of tissue you can create, just fat or just muscle, but
Joshua Errett:generally when you put it together, You have something akin to meat that most
Joshua Errett:people eat today, including our pets.
Joshua Errett:And as I always say, there's so much more to meat than protein.
Joshua Errett:And if you look at a cat biology and physiology and how it eats and digests.
Joshua Errett:That's perfect evidence of why cats need more than just protein.
Jordan Tyler:Okay, so a quick lesson on cultivated protein.
Jordan Tyler:Cultivated meat involves extracting muscle cells from a live animal, taken
Jordan Tyler:humanely, and then pairing those muscle cells with a quote unquote culture medium.
Jordan Tyler:In other words, a nutrient rich substance designed to help
Jordan Tyler:those cells grow big and strong.
Jordan Tyler:Now, in this controlled environment, the cells multiply and begin forming
Jordan Tyler:muscle tissue that is cellularly identical to conventional meat.
Jordan Tyler:This, according to Josh, presents a world of opportunity, particularly for our pets.
Joshua Errett:Cultivated meat, to me, is The brass ring, the Holy grail, whatever
Joshua Errett:you want to say, uh, pet nutrition, because you can make truly unparalleled
Joshua Errett:nutrition out of cultivated meat.
Joshua Errett:You can tune the amino acid profile.
Joshua Errett:You can tune other nutrients in there as well.
Joshua Errett:And my big vision for cultivated meat.
Joshua Errett:Is to create, uh, food for, uh, you know, a cat or dog that contains
Joshua Errett:everything that the cat or dog needs.
Joshua Errett:So, like, all the palatants, all the, uh, premix vitamins and minerals.
Joshua Errett:can be added and cultivated instead of just thrown in in a sort of powder format
Joshua Errett:at the end of the manufacturing process.
Joshua Errett:Even just standardizing what comes in meat that goes into pet
Joshua Errett:food would be a huge advantage.
Joshua Errett:So all these things put together make me really obsessed about
Joshua Errett:cultivated meat for pets.
Jordan Tyler:Now, cultivated meat is one approach to cultured protein
Jordan Tyler:or cellular agriculture, whereas another is precision fermentation.
Jordan Tyler:This is a technology that's been used for decades to produce enzymes
Jordan Tyler:for cheese and yogurt production, in pharmaceutical manufacturing, and a
Jordan Tyler:whole host of other commercial uses.
Jordan Tyler:Bond Pet Foods has been developing its Precision Fermentation technology
Jordan Tyler:for several years, specifically to provide animal free protein
Jordan Tyler:ingredients to key partners across the pet food and animal feed industries,
Jordan Tyler:including Hills Pet Nutrition, And agribusiness giant Wilbur Ellis.
Jordan Tyler:We sat down with Rich Killiman, founder and chief executive officer of Bond
Jordan Tyler:Pet Foods, to learn a little bit more about what this technology offers.
Rich Kelleman:So we are an older Colorado based company that's working
Rich Kelleman:with fermentation to make meat protein, like chicken, turkey, and fish, without
Rich Kelleman:the animal, for pet food applications.
Rich Kelleman:Our proteins are complete, allowing brands to fully replace their meat meals
Rich Kelleman:by products one to one in their recipes.
Rich Kelleman:It's lean, it's scalable, so the math makes sense from a unit economics
Rich Kelleman:standpoint to include it at high inclusion in their formulations.
Rich Kelleman:And I think, just as important, it's wholly more efficient.
Rich Kelleman:Sustainable and humane compared with meat and animal ingredients that are
Rich Kelleman:available in the pet food supply chain today, we're not creating a new way to
Rich Kelleman:make ingredients that could have value in the pet or human food supply chain.
Rich Kelleman:We're working with.
Rich Kelleman:A technology that's been around for more than half a century to make everything
Rich Kelleman:from enzymes for cheese manufacture, to good bacteria for probiotic
Rich Kelleman:supplements, to vanilla and a host of other ingredients that we're consuming
Rich Kelleman:on a daily, weekly, monthly basis.
Rich Kelleman:It's just a creative way to employ that same kind of food process to
Rich Kelleman:create a different kind of protein and ingredient that could have
Rich Kelleman:value for a different audience.
Jordan Tyler:While operations like the one at Bond Pet Foods use sugar
Jordan Tyler:fed yeast to develop its fermented proteins, there are other ways to feed
Jordan Tyler:a microorganism and encourage it to to grow up into a full fledged protein.
Jordan Tyler:For example, Calista, a cellular agriculture company based in Silicon
Jordan Tyler:Valley, is using methane to fuel its precision fermentation process.
Jordan Tyler:Here's a quick overview from Herman Sloot, vice president of
Jordan Tyler:commercial development at Calista.
Herman Sloot:So the very specific characteristic of these bacteria is
Herman Sloot:that they use methane or methanol as a substrate instead of sugar.
Herman Sloot:These bacteria are able to metabolize natural gas and use that natural gas as
Herman Sloot:the energy source for the fermentation.
Herman Sloot:And that is completely different than bacteria that grow on sugar.
Herman Sloot:So one of the first things is If you want to do fermentation, you need to have a
Herman Sloot:very good control of your biomass because that determines how the bacteria will grow
Herman Sloot:and how these bacteria can produce then a biomass with a specific protein content.
Herman Sloot:If you don't control your feedstock, you cannot control your fermentation.
Herman Sloot:So you have to make sure that you have a steady supply.
Herman Sloot:In terms of quantity, but also in terms of quality of what you get.
Herman Sloot:So we believe that natural gases do both of that.
Jordan Tyler:It's crazy to think that bacteria can eat methane and
Jordan Tyler:turn it into something us and our pets can benefit from nutritionally.
Jordan Tyler:I was pretty blown away by that, and I think it sort of exemplifies
Jordan Tyler:how cool this trend is and the opportunities it offers for the future.
Jordan Tyler:Another cool aspect of the cultured protein movement, both cultivated
Jordan Tyler:and fermented, is the ability to fine tune your inputs to get
Jordan Tyler:specific outputs, as noted by Dr.
Jordan Tyler:Renee Strader.
Renee Streeter:Some of these cultured meats can be modified so that they're
Renee Streeter:producing certain amino acids, more or less, or even certain types of proteins
Renee Streeter:that are similar to our animal proteins.
Renee Streeter:And so it becomes really customizable, which I think, is
Renee Streeter:probably the wave of the future.
Renee Streeter:We can utilize them maybe a little bit more efficiently
Renee Streeter:to meet our amino acid needs.
Renee Streeter:And also if animals have certain restrictions, we could probably
Renee Streeter:pull back on certain amino acids that may cause issues or make
Renee Streeter:it more likely an issue occurs.
Jordan Tyler:So while the idea of growing proteins in a laboratory has
Jordan Tyler:a sort of Frankenstein feel to it.
Jordan Tyler:It's actually a super exciting innovation for the global food supply.
Jordan Tyler:And like Rich Kellerman noted, we've actually been using this technology
Jordan Tyler:for a really long time already.
Jordan Tyler:We're just using it now in a different way.
Jordan Tyler:I'm excited to keep up with Josh, Rich, Herman, and others in this
Jordan Tyler:space to see how it evolves.
Jordan Tyler:this year and in the future.
Jordan Tyler:Now, before we start winding down today, I want to make two quick mentions.
Jordan Tyler:As plant based proteins and invasive species are also poised to join the
Jordan Tyler:alternative protein conversation for pets.
Jordan Tyler:However, while the opportunity lies in wait, what we really need is research
Jordan Tyler:to ensure that pets can pick up Truly thrive on a plant only diet, and that
Jordan Tyler:the use of invasive species tracks with supporting our pet's nutritional needs.
Jordan Tyler:My amazing colleagues have authored quite a few articles on the merits of
Jordan Tyler:plant-based nutrition and the use of invasive species, which we will link
Jordan Tyler:to the show notes for this episode if you'd like to learn more, but.
Jordan Tyler:For now, it's safe to say the alternative protein space is growing and evolving, and
Jordan Tyler:we'll be keeping a close eye on each of these categories to keep you up to speed
Jordan Tyler:on where we sit and where we're headed.
Jordan Tyler:As we close out today's episode, let's hear from Emily Messnier, Vice
Jordan Tyler:President of European Operations at BSM Partners, a palatability expert by
Jordan Tyler:trade and sustainability guru by choice.
Jordan Tyler:When I asked Emily what she thought about alternative proteins for pets, she said
Jordan Tyler:she sees more than one avenue as key to addressing the need for more sustainable
Jordan Tyler:pet food ingredients and supply chains.
Jordan Tyler:This includes upcycling, which we discussed in yesterday's episode,
Jordan Tyler:as well as emerging options like insect protein, cultured meats, and
Emilie Mesnier:other alternatives.
Emilie Mesnier:The need for alternative proteins is undeniable, and that translates
Emilie Mesnier:with significant investments pouring into everything from insect
Emilie Mesnier:farms, you know, cultured meat facilities, upcycled ingredients.
Emilie Mesnier:yeast based, algae based, you know, non meat based type of protein, even
Emilie Mesnier:climate resistant and resilient crops.
Emilie Mesnier:So this excitement stems from the potential of these proteins to
Emilie Mesnier:offer a more sustainable and more ethical alternative to traditional
Emilie Mesnier:intensive animal agriculture.
Jordan Tyler:So there you have it, our deep dive into the fascinating
Jordan Tyler:world of alternative proteins.
Jordan Tyler:From insects buzzing with potential Pun intended.
Jordan Tyler:To the sci fi turned reality of cultivated meats and precision fermentation, it's
Jordan Tyler:clear that the future of pet nutrition is evolving right before our eyes.
Jordan Tyler:Whether you're excited about sustainability benefits of an insect
Jordan Tyler:protein, intrigued by the customization possibilities that cultured meat offers,
Jordan Tyler:or curious about the potential of methane eating bacteria, Alternative proteins are
Jordan Tyler:piquing our interest, and advancements in the stays will certainly be worth watching
Jordan Tyler:in 2025 and in the years to follow.
Jordan Tyler:But we're not done yet.
Jordan Tyler:Tomorrow, we'll release yet another episode exploring our third trend
Jordan Tyler:to watch in 2025, and perhaps my personal favorite, biotic ingredients.
Jordan Tyler:Be sure to tune in for a fascinating discussion about how these powerful
Jordan Tyler:microorganisms could transform pet health from the inside out.
Jordan Tyler:Until then, thank you for tuning in to Barking Mad, a podcast by BSM Partners.
Jordan Tyler:If you'd like to learn more about us, please visit our
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Jordan Tyler:Lastly, be sure to stay tuned for more insights this week
Jordan Tyler:from our Trends 2025 miniseries.
Jordan Tyler:As well as future episodes on pet care innovation, sustainability, and other hard
Jordan Tyler:hitting topics you won't want to miss.
Jordan Tyler:We'd like to thank our dedicated team in support of this episode.
Jordan Tyler:Edmiette Thomas, Neely Bowden, Kate Wright, and Dr.
Jordan Tyler:Katie Miller.
Jordan Tyler:A special thanks to Leanne Haggerty and Michael Johnson.
Jordan Tyler:See you next time!