The legal profession can sometimes feel like The Truman Show. Inside the comfort of a bubble with everything in order and running like it always has.

That is until someone taps the glass.

In this episode, we’re joined by Dana Denis-Smith OBE, founder of Obelisk Support and the Law Society of England & Wales's incoming president for 2027. Dana has spent over 20 years reshaping the legal profession and she’s not afraid to ask the questions others avoid.

We dive deep into whether the legal profession has really changed, or whether it’s just become better at talking about change. We speak about the inequalities that still exist in law and how lawyers are valued in an AI-driven world.

If you ever feel like the legal profession is evolving but not fast enough, or not in the right ways, this conversation will challenge how you see its future.

Covered in this episode:

• How the legal profession is trapped within a bubble.
• Where real progress is happening for women in law and where it isn’t.
• Whether the profession values its people or just says it does.
• The shift towards “do we even need a lawyer?” in an AI world.
• AI hallucinations and the risks appearing in legal work.
• Why “the future of law is female”.
• Whether the hourly billing model still makes sense in an AI world.
• And more…

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LEARN MORE

Obelisk Support - https://obelisksupport.com/

RMOK Legal - https://www.rmoklegal.com/

CONNECT

Dana Denis-Smith OBE on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ddenissmith/

Rory O’Keeffe on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/roryokeeffe/

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