The salient point of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT) and its profound implications for emotional health and well-being. I am joined by Sophia Torini, an expert in the field, as we delve into the intricacies of EFT, which combines cognitive psychotherapy with the practice of tapping on specific acupuncture points on the body. We elucidate how unprocessed emotions can manifest physically, potentially leading to illness, and how EFT serves as a mechanism to release these emotional blockages. Throughout our dialogue, we emphasize the necessity of acknowledging and processing our emotions, which are often stored within the body and can hinder personal growth and healing. Our conversation aims to enlighten listeners on the efficacy of EFT as a self-healing modality, empowering individuals to reclaim their emotional well-being and navigate their journeys toward holistic living.

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Welcome to the Codependent me podcast.

I am your host, Tamela Shaw, a recovering codependent, the co author of God Turn Mommy's Wine into Water, and I'm a certified life coach.

On this podcast we discuss a lot of relevant topics.

But the podcast was created to increase the awareness of codependency and to give information on how to live a more holistic life.

Welcome to the Codependent me podcast.

I am your host, Tamela Shaw.

Today we're going to tap into some things.

I have my friend Sophia Torini, she's on the show.

She is with Tap into your best self.

Sophia, welcome to the show.

Thank you very much for inviting me and it's a pleasure to be on your show.

Yes, thank you so much.

So I have loved EFT and I think we've had a couple shows within the last five years about it.

However, if you could explain to the audience what EFT is, okay.

I'd be happy to do it.

So I do clinical eft, which is evidence based EFT and it's a combination of cognitive psychotherapy and tapping on the body's acupuncture points, or what we call meridian.

So basically doing acupuncture without needles.

Let's explain why it works and what is the belief behind it.

We know all disease is a lowering of frequency.

Stress, for example, is going to get you sick sooner or later if you don't know how to recalibrate back to some normalcy.

Right.

So when emotions are not felt, they get stored in the body.

So every motion comes from the limbic brain, which is, it has different names.

They call it the mammalian brain, the emotional brain.

Well, that's what it is.

It is the limbic brain.

And each emotion has particular chemistry.

If you wanted to, you could make in the lab a pill of joy.

It is a physical chemistry.

So as children we had experiences and because we did not have a cognitive mind, which is beta brainwaves, certain experience, we did not know how to process the emotion.

So that information got stored in the body as, as a habit.

We learned not to feel our emotions.

And sooner or later the body's going to break down because the cells have an electrical voltage between them.

And when there's this energy in there that's creating static, there's not good signal.

It's like a phone line and there's a static.

You can't hear what the other person's saying.

So the next signal cell doesn't know what message is coming through because of the static.

So our job is to Verbalize it.

What was not spoken of, but not getting in the story and getting stuck in the story.

Feeling the emotion and letting it go.

So you're tapping on your meridians and you imagine you have a needle or I like to the analogy of a hammer.

You're trying to break this density of emotion and then eventually comes out.

And you know, it comes out because a lot of people feel bodily sensation.

Not everybody has to feel it.

But once the emotion is out, you have a cognitive shift.

You can see things differently.

And there's usually.

If you're not happy, there's at least neutrality.

Nice.

Very nice.

I love it when you said when emotions aren't felt, because most people feel as though.

Well, yeah, I do feel my emotions, but sometimes it's you.

You start to have that feeling and you shut it off.

Yes.

We verbalize what we're feeling without feeling the bodily sensation.

So I'm so angry.

I'm so angry.

But I've disconnected from that knot.

Shut it off.

Yeah, yeah.

So that knot has to be felt or whatever it is.

It could be a knot, it could be a vibration, it could be this jittery thing.

Because we don't know how to truly process our emotions.

We weren't trained.

And for all of us, including me, when a.

A big emotion comes up, like grief, I think it will never stop.

Though eventually it does stop.

But there is a program that comes up and says, no, you're going to be dealing this through eternity.

So we shut it off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

So that's good.

So.

And will you tell the.

The audience the different places in the body where.

Where we tap?

Okay, so there's many.

I use some extra points.

So each meridian is connected to a particular organ, and each organ usually carries its own emotion.

For example, kidneys carry fear.

The lungs carry fear of life and powerlessness.

Is that why you go, wow.

And.

And then the heart, of course, we know, carries heartache and betrayal.

So we always start at the side of the hand because the body is a battery and we want to change the polarity of the body.

But before I explain that, I want to give an analogy that I should have given.

At some point, we all had Walkmans or some device where you put a battery in, and oftentimes you left it for six or eight months and you got this crust on the battery and it didn't work.

It's exactly the same thing in the body.

So the emotions that were not processed acidified, and that's why the signal becomes static.

So what you Needed to do is take the battery, replace it with a new one.

Obviously, we can't throw the whole body out, so we have this technique.

Eft.

By tapping, you're clearing that acidity.

And then the body has its innate ability to.

To restore.

Every human being on this planet has an innate ability for their body to restore under the right conditions.

Okay, so let's go back.

So we start with the side of the hand, and we.

We tap three times to change the polarity of the body.

Most of the time when we start with even though, every sentence starts with even though.

Why?

Because we know our words have power.

And so let's say I am angry.

So if I keep on repeating I'm angry, I'm angry, I'm angry.

I'm just going to get more anger.

Right.

So we start even though I am angry.

So we want to know what the emotion is.

That's the first step to identify, find out what the emotion is.

Where is it in the body?

So we find it's in my liver.

I don't know.

It's in my stomach.

Usually for me, anger is in my stomach.

So in my stomach.

And now we want to know the event in the present moment.

Or we put it in the present tense.

Why?

Because creation only happens in the now.

There's no creation in the past, and there's no creation in the future.

So let's say I am angry because Zoom threw me off.

Zoom.

Okay, that would be one.

But let's say you're angry about something that happened last night.

Someone I was driving cut me off.

So we can still work on yesterday.

The only difference is I am angry thinking about this person cutting me off when I was driving.

And now let's take it how we would handle it for a future.

Let's assume now this is anxiety.

I have a doctor's appointment, so I'm very anxious and terrified because I'm anticipating bad results.

So you don't say I'm anxious because I'm going to be going to the doctor.

I am anxious thinking about my doctor's appointment on Friday.

Gotcha.

So always in the present text.

So now we have the emotion.

We have the body part, we have the event.

And now what we want to do is measure the intensity.

So how does it feel before I tap?

So, okay, my anger is about a six.

You know, it's between zero and 10.

And you just try to scan your first number that shows up.

So it's about a six.

Why do we do that?

Because we want to create our own biofeedback loop that this works because we're going to measure it at the end and we will subjectively see it dropped.

What's the purpose?

If I tell you it works, if you don't experience it yourself, it works.

Right?

So we do that for a biofeedback and to know when do we need to stop tapping?

I recommend to stop tapping at 2.

Or if you can go to a 0 would be better if you 3 is still too high.

I know most people teach a 3.

It's too high.

Okay, so 2 or 1.

If you get a 0, that's even perfect.

Yeah.

Okay, so we got all that part.

So now we need something positive at the end.

Why?

Because everything's a wave.

So even though I've had this, whatever anger, I have this anger in my stomach because I'm thinking, today, let's say today this guy cut me off while driving.

I want to put a positive twist to change that oscillation of that negative way, that anger.

So they always teach, I deeply and completely love and accept myself.

If you're starting out, you definitely are not deeply and completely loving and accepting yourself.

So I wouldn't go for that because it's not going to resonate in your body and your mind and body says, I don't love anything about this or the situation.

So you can say, I acknowledge this is what I'm feeling.

And part of me.

Because maybe you don't want to let go of the anger, Part of me is open to finding a place of peace.

So you want to work with the part of you that's willing to change.

Sometimes the whole part of you says, I am ready to find a place of peace.

But sometimes you're seething and you say, I am not gonna let that go.

I am not letting it go.

So, okay, I'm.

I'm open with that tiny part of me that wants some relief or whatever the word is.

So that's what it is.

And now let's go to the logistics, how we're going to do the topic.

So we created the sentence, which is even though emotion, body, part, we recorded for ourselves the intensity and the event in the present tense and the positive balancing statement.

So then when we're going to be tapping, we need to do two things.

This is not traditional eft.

This is how I teach eft.

We want to breathe in the belly.

Why?

Because the belly gives the body signal I am safe.

It's also a different breath when it comes in the belly.

It's our higher selves and spirit when it's in the breath.

If you've ever noticed someone who is in a panic attack, they only breathe to the chest and the energy never seems to leave and it gets stuck in the body.

So they say, well, I'm feeling my emotion, but it's not going to leave because you're not allowing the circuit to close.

So we breathe in the belly.

The other thing we can do, let's say there's this tightness in the stomach of this anger that I have.

I put on my awareness there without judging it.

Right.

Obviously, I don't like the knot, but I know now that if I observe it and I feel it, it's going to go away.

Because if I force it to go away, it won't go away.

It just doesn't want to.

It's gonna say back, I'll show you.

You're not getting rid of me.

So let's go through the whole body parts.

So we started with.

Even though three times we do that long sentence, and I'll give you the whole example, Even though I'm so angry and I feel it in my stomach, I can't believe this guy cut me off.

How dare he cut me off.

I'm ready to chop off his head.

I am open to seeing things differently and finding a place of peace.

And I acknowledge this is what I'm feeling because this is not helping me anymore.

And we do that three times.

You can change the words.

The words don't matter.

It's your own words.

As long as you keep this form, it doesn't matter what words you are.

And now we go through the body parts.

Top of the head.

I'm angry in my stomach.

I can't believe this happened.

It happened to me again.

It happened last week again.

This is the second time.

This anger in my stomach, it's just exhausting to have all this anger in my stomach.

I'm so angry he cut me off.

Ready to let it go.

Maybe.

Maybe I'm holding on to it so it never happens again.

You know, whatever comes to you, you say, but in the tapping points now you're gonna go.

The only thing you need to remember, you can add anything you want is the emotion on the body part.

Everything else is your own expression, what you felt and you want to experience.

So I'm gone to the thymus.

Now I'm going to stand up because we have a couple of points.

So we did the head, we did between the eyebrows, we did the side of the eyes under the I under the eyes, under the nose, under the chin.

This is Our thymus.

I like to use the ears.

So we could do the ears.

There's a lot of meridians that go this way.

Okay.

And then under.

Right here.

I don't know if you could see it.

My bra would go here.

Right.

Kind of the ribs, I guess, point.

Okay.

So this is where anger is.

So I never skip this.

And then I do.

This is where my bras are right here.

Right up under the.

Toward the end your wing.

Yeah.

Okay.

I use this because you have tons of meridians.

And then this.

Okay, those.

I mean, you could use more if you want to, but there's no need.

You've covered the majority of the body, so that's what a tapping sequence goes.

So I would do two rounds, and then I. I do notice that it stopped.

It went down to two.

If I have time, I could take it to zero.

If I don't have time, I could leave it at two.

Nice.

Okay, so let's address one important that people don't explain EFT why.

Also, EFT helps.

The body doesn't know the difference if you're experiencing something between thought alone and a real life experience.

Right.

Because you can make yourself sick by your own thoughts.

So if there was a nice little tiger here, I would not be tapping.

So the physical act of tapping is telling the body, even though I'm angry, there's no tiger there.

So automatically a couple of rounds of tapping is telling I'm in a safe environment.

And we want to retrain the body to feel safe, because when we're angry, when we're shameful, what has happened now?

The emotion actually activates the sympathetic nervous system automatically, that switch turns on, and it doesn't go off unless we consciously change it.

Just because we're not thinking about that experience, it doesn't mean we're not getting sick.

Because it's replaying back in your hippocampus.

You know, traumatic memories, people who have horrific experience, they're replaying even though you're not aware of it.

You just know that when something similar happens, you tightened up right away.

That thing is still active.

Because the body's a computer, right?

So our job is to tap enough to start down regulating these stress responses.

We now have over 300 clinical trials, and we know that tapping down regulates six stress hormones, and one of them is cortisone.

So we know that scientifically.

We also know it works faster than some other modalities.

It's definitely true.

It's gotten me through a lot, actually.

It gives you that.

And you.

You have it Everywhere you go is what's beautiful.

So it doesn't matter where you are, where that stress, you know, or trauma steps in, you have that ability to bring yourself down to that too, right?

That's correct.

It's a beautiful thing.

So what started you on this journey.

Feeling miserably and very ill, just like everybody else.

I was very disconnected from my body and did not know.

Well, I did know how to verbalize my emotions, but I didn't know how to feel my emotions.

So I could complain all day.

And, you know, most people thinking complaining is feeling your emotions.

No, I was just commiserating with other people who were complaining with me.

Right.

And that what it does, it actually wires that emotion even stronger in the body because what wires together, fires together what actually.

What fires together, wires together.

Okay, so.

And then my life, I.

So when we're in survival, I made a poor choice.

I listened and I accepted an exploratory surgery that I did not need, that I intuitively I spoke up.

But after keep on getting rejected, I went along with it and it almost cost me my life.

And I ended up being sick for a long time and I couldn't find a way out.

It was just getting worse and worse.

And we're talking close to 16 years.

I had heard about EFT and I said, no, that doesn't work because I worked in the hospital and I believed in the medical system.

That's all I knew.

And my degree is in epidemiology.

So.

But at some point now that I survived that experience, because I was expected to die in the hospital, because I stayed a long time, now that I lived, I said, okay, now I'm going to have a miserable life moving forward, and nothing was changing.

So at some point I said, and I would get worse and worse.

I said, there's something I have to do.

So I started researching and I had a little tiny belief that somehow the body can heal.

And also it posed the question, how can someone very healthy overnight be expected to die in two days?

It didn't make sense.

So, you know, the hospital kept on saying, well, your organs failed you.

And I said, it just doesn't.

I'm a runner, I'm this, I'm that.

I I healthy.

My organs can't fail me overnight.

I. I just had some physical pain, but there was nothing found in the body.

So you can't tell me my.

And so that question is what saved me.

And I got into neuroscience, I got into the teachings of Dr. Joe.

But again, the problem was, great to go to your Happy state.

But I can't go to the happy state because I'm filled with terror here.

I didn't know what it meant to open up your heart.

I mean, what hard.

I was like physically frozen here.

I was just terrorized.

So eft came very handy for me.

And remember, I was shocked.

My first therapist said, you're filled with anger.

I said, what anger?

Because I was disconnected.

Yeah.

I said, I didn't say anything.

Says, you're full of anger.

She was right.

She was right.

But there was fear then below it stuff.

And it started coming up.

Okay.

And then the body went into healing mode on its own.

Didn't happen overnight.

I wasn't a quick fix.

Those miracle fixes.

Yeah.

I was able to reframe on my own, not with the suggestion of the practitioner, certain experiences.

And I was able.

It took me a little bit of a while.

I was able to forgive.

Not because I was told to, because naturally I knew holding on to that resentment was poisoning me.

Yeah.

So many of us are in that.

In that position, whether it's anxiety or stress or trauma, you know, we sit back and don't.

We don't realize that there are times when we don't feel well.

That is why there are times that, you know, you have certain illnesses and they connect it to one thing.

When it's really the stress and trauma in the body that's really, you know, if.

If you hold on to something and it's not good for you, it's really eating.

It's eating your insides.

And we realize that we don't know how to process our emotions, unfortunately.

And a very common thing sometimes we hold.

That's why I gave the example of anger I gave.

We hold on to the anger, thinking, if I can remember this anger, he's not going to do it again.

Or he or she, whatever the situation is.

Well, that other person is a projection of you.

So that poison that you think you're holding for them, you're eating your own poison.

It's like in the mirror.

You go to the mirror and you say, well, I don't like my hair today.

And you say to the mirror, fix my hair.

Well, the mirror can fix your hair, right?

Yeah, I have to sit and fix my hair so that I have to.

Do the work, right?

Yeah, for sure.

Yes.

So you now have tap into your best self.

Do you like to tell the audience about the company?

Yes.

So based on my own healing journey and understanding or realizing certain teachings that we live.

I hope your audience is familiar with this.

We live in A multi dimensional hall of mirrors.

And there's many versions of you.

So whoever thing you have or whatever situation, there's a version of you that is whole and doesn't have that issue.

So I combine tapping with hacking reality, which is going back and rewriting old memories so we just don't release the emotion.

We rewrite that memory so you can move to a parallel timeline where that story did not apply to you.

And I often also connect you with your future self who is whole.

And you hear your own advice from your own future self because you're not going to believe my advice.

I'm not living in your shoes.

Right.

So I created this to help people know that they can heal.

And I do love teaching a course that was created by Dr. Dispenza.

Change your mind.

Creating results.

It's the same course here.

He used to teach to Coca Cola, IBM, these big companies that became big names.

He doesn't obviously teach it anymore, but I'm one of his certified trainers.

Nice.

So I love teaching that course because it gets you methodically to understand, realize who's creating the reality.

It's mostly teaching and tons of exercises or questions that the participant has to ask answer.

And it's always live, it's not pre recorded, so.

And then there's a 90 day follow up to make sure because we have a journal, we give, I'll give three journals that they have to do daily for 90 days to make sure they didn't take just another course and it goes back to the shelf.

I mean, how many times you've done that?

I've done it too.

I took the, I listened through it fast, I did it for one week and then it's up on the shelf stuff.

Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

So they can get your workshop.

What else do you offer in the.

I offer a complimentary 30 minute session.

I offer a master class about the course, which is 75 minutes.

And they could just reach out to see, you know, what modality is best because one is purely neuroscience and the other one is somatic.

And I often combine both.

At the end of the day, we need to align our three brains.

But how do we get there?

Doesn't matter.

So you have a neocortex, you have the limbic brain and the cerebellum.

In order to create what we want, the three brains have to be aligned.

And if you want health or abundance, the three brains have to be aligned.

If you can't get the three brains, you have to get at least two of them.

But you cannot skip the emotional Brain.

Absolutely.

The emotional brain cannot be skipped.

Oh my goodness.

I'm writing this down.

Oh, this is good.

So they can sign up for the complimentary 30 minute session session with you at tap into your.

Tap into your best self dot com.

Right.

Okay.

And do you have, you have Facebook?

I have Facebook, which is tap into your best self.org and everything else is just tap into your best self.

So Tick tock is tap into your best self.

YouTube, tap into your best self.

The same thing with Instagram.

And then I did have that 75 minute master class.

That's complimentary.

Oh, is that, that's, that's like.

Oh, nice.

Okay, perfect.

So audience go right now.

If you're not driving, go to tap into your best self dot com.

She has tons of information on there.

Find out what you need to do.

This is good, good work.

And you can do it on the go.

I have been sitting in a restaurant and became very anxious.

And you can tap under the table if you need to.

You can, you know, you can do.

Yeah, absolutely.

So many different things that you can do in order to process your emotions, you know, bring down your anxiety and your stress in that moment.

And nobody would know anything that you're doing when you're sitting there healing yourself.

So EFT is very powerful.

I love it.

And again, if you want to learn more about it, she has Facebook, tick tock, YouTube, Instagram, go on her page in order or her social media in order to find more about it and about her because she's awesome.

Oh, thank you very much.

And I do write a blog if they have questions.

So there's a blog page.

And the founder of eft, I wanted to say his story.

So he's close to his 80s.

I know everybody knows the tapping solution.

The man got a stroke in his 80s.

I think it took him four months that he self healed himself with what he teaches.

He doesn't do sessions anymore, but he healed himself and he had a little tiny paralysis on one side and he healed.

And I'm here to tell you because I sometimes join his talks.

He's more computer literate and can click faster than me on the zoom call.

So he gave it to the world for free when he did it.

Nice.

And it is a downloaded modality that he got himself and it's been used everywhere.

The Vietnam vets use it.

So if he can heal a stroke.

You can heal your trauma.

You can heal being angry at the red light because somebody almost cut you off.

Right.

You can heal.

You know, the waitress may have spilled something on.

You can do this.

Absolutely, absolutely.

I'm actually, I have a shoulder issue that I've been using.

Tap into left or right?

It is my left.

Okay.

So the left is the feminine side.

And if you can't use.

Is it a frozen shoulder?

Not frozen, but it's definitely limited.

Okay.

So if you don't mind me sharing, I use German medicine for it and you.

We.

You can look it up.

I don't remember all the details, but it's about being able to grasp or achieve something because the body spread speaks to us.

So the left would be the feminine side.

If this was the.

If it was the right one, it would be regarding a relationship.

So it could be a relationship to yourself or some feminine person in your life or a project you want to do.

And it's not moving the way you want because the hands are about grasping.

Oh, nice.

Ah, I have to look that up.

And the person that founded eft, what was his name?

Gary Craig.

I had that, but I thought, I.

Thought I was wrong.

Okay, perfect.

This has been so wonderful.

Thank you so much for being on the show.

Thank you very much.

And thank you for all that you do for the world.

So wonderful.

Because you're providing the information to them.

So it's a two way string we're co creating.

That's right.

So it's a nice little song and dance.

Right.

Excellent.

I ask all of my guests if they could give the audience one last nugget, what would it be?

Okay.

It's what I said before.

Wherever you are, there's always another version of you.

And your higher self wants you to resolve it before you leave this planet.

Your higher self does not want anybody to be ill. We get ill because we're out of alignment or we didn't know how to process the emotions.

So you're having guidance right now to get back on online and new healing modalities, which are self healing modalities like EFT are going to come more to the forefront.

You don't need an outside doctor.

You can do it yourself.

I love that.

Oh, wait, I need to make it.

Go right ahead.

Yeah.

Because you're on the podcast here.

If you feel you need a doctor, that does not mean you don't go to the doctor.

Right.

But the body has its innate ability.

Until you get to that point, follow the medical advice.

Absolutely.

I love that.

Thank you for that.

I want the audience to know that you could have chosen any podcast that you wanted to, but you chose this one.

And we appreciate it so very much.

And I want to let you know that you matter and your story matters and your body matters.

Right.

So until next time, me and Sophia are gonna say goodbye.

Bye.

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