Episode Summary – RIP, RIP TATER CHIP SAYS CARL VERSIO 2.0! In Episode ## of the Shining Brightly Podcast show (links in the comments) titled, “SURVIVING – PURELY OUT OF SPITE” please meet Carl and Melissa Boehm. WE played a game of “he said – she said” on how they met as a couple and then telling his incredible story publicly for the first time of Carl, age 38, suffering a grand mal seizure and Melissa rushing him to the hospital. A stage IV terminal brain cancer patient that had massive surgery and chemotherapy. Carl 2.0 has a ZEST and POSITIVITY FOR LIFE that is so inspiring. Learn why Carl uses cold plunges 4 times a week to help him heal. Come feel the ENERGY, LOVE and RESILIENCE to get back up again and again.

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Carl Boehm on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004134766207

Help Support Carl and Melissa on Go Fund Me

https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-support-carl-and-melissa

About the guest – Carl Boehm has a story of inspiration to share. He is a brain cancer survivor after suffering a grand mal seizure. A tonic-clonic seizure, previously known as a grand mal seizure, causes a loss of consciousness and violent muscle contractions. He was rushed to a local hospital by his wife Melissa. He had a craniotomy to remove a 3-inch peach sized tumor from his brain. He is currently in chemotherapy. Carl and his zest for life, shear resilience and exuberant energy are an inspiration for so many people to live his best life for himself and family every day.

About the Host:

Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.

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Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly

Show. It is shining so brightly because I have the most amazing

guests with the most inspirational stories ever and

today is no different. It is amazing. Welcome Carl and

Melissa Boehm. I'm so pleased to be with you. And we're going to

chat it up. How are you? Good. How are you?

Good.

issa

Well, I'll be learners, or you're gonna go

first at a motorcycle dealership, and I couldn't see

the showroom. But I can hear this voice over my cubicle wall.

So. So I went, I popped my head up like a little prairie dog and

had to go see who was at the counter speaking to the owner.

And I started to just listen. And then he got the job. And

then I couldn't stand him for a very long time. He was cocky. He

was arrogant. I could not stand him and he tried like heck to

get me to go out with them. And I said, Nope. And he said he'd

never been turned out in his life. I said, Welcome to dating

a woman.

I had never been turned out.

Wow. So Oh, my God knew that. He said, No, you'll

get your chance. You'll get your chance. You'll get your chance.

Oh my god. So I didn't see that comment. All right. But you got

this booming voice. I mean, it's, you know, for radio. I

mean, it's got amazing voice. All right. So, Carl, you are

very you noticed her there was an attraction, but you got you

got kind of, you know, crashed and burned, man.

You know, it was like the weirdest thing. I saw

this tall, beautiful. vixen stand up and from behind this

wall, and somehow inside of a building God part of the clouds

and shining this light of like, Oh, hello, yeah. And I was I

died. She knocked my socks off. She had a boyfriend at the time.

I heard they were on the rocks a little bit. And I was like,

here's the time when I swoop in real quick. And that makes me

sound kind of bad. I've normally never do that. But this woman

was like something else to me. So I was like, Listen, I got

this, I got the chance to hurt away from the rocks. I was like,

give me a chance. You know, let's go on a date. This week.

I'm taken to dinner. And when I say laughed in my face, I mean,

she literally laughed into my face like I've never had, I was

like, Absolutely not. And then a few weeks roll by. And then I

was like, come on, I said you give me one chance, you will not

regret this, I promise you, I will show you the real me

outside of these walls. And lo and behold, we go on our first

date that happened to be with like, six or 10 of my

girlfriends that I went to high school with not actual

girlfriend, but like very close female friends that I've had for

a very long time. And they all loved her. And she loved all

them. And it was mutual respect and love. And I knew from the

first I knew before we went on the date that I loved her. And

that sounds crazy, but I already knew, like I was like, if I ever

get a chance and people used to laugh me because they were you

know, you know, they left me but I was like if I ever gonna

change that woman. I would never squander it. And I honestly

never have do this.

There we are 10 years later,

nine years later,

amen. Amen. So, you know, it's funny because

that happened to me. Alright, I'm coming off a cancer one

rehabilitating myself. And I see Lisa across the room, and I say

I'm gonna marry that girl. I told the guys like, What are you

talking about? You don't even know her. And 29 years later,

right known for 31 Now, it's an amazing thing when you know, you

know,

I literally just knew, I mean, I was like out in

the world do my thing mid to late 20s like out here just

getting it. And sure enough, she knocked me off. She slapped me I

couldn't believe it. I've never ever ever had a woman hit me

like lightning before. I was just like, awestruck like oh my

god who is this woman?

And he was a little more convincing obviously

so that's all right.

Work to show me who he really was

so bad when I said to her for her boyfriend but

this do a live one five states away. They weren't even really

dating. It wasn't like I was I like swept in like an eagle and

just took her you know.

I love it. Alright, so let's but we're

gonna change up a little bit. I gotta set the tone here because

you've been through some tough stuff. So record rip. RIP and

rip tater chip. We're gonna hit it. We're gonna hit I love this.

Your energy is just, we're gonna amazing Alright, so I gotta read

a couple of this because this is like Okay, witness what got me

when we got introduced? Oh, we got a shout out to Shannon

Costello because she, we love you. We love Shannon. She's a

stage two colorectal cancer survivor, Mom of boys and great

person. She's awesome. So big shout out. All right, so here's

the call on your 38th birthday. You're a young man, you had

what's called the grand mal seizure. And your wife rushed

you to the hospital. Okay. And they found it says three peach

size tumours on your brain?

Well, that was actually a mistake. There was a

one three inch pizza size.

Alright, so you had you but still it's a big

tumour in your brain. Okay. Yeah. And then it shifted your

centre line a quarter inch bent, then you actually had to have

some pre ops. And you basically had no short term memory. And if

you say your last three years of your life, wow. And even, you

know, you're still dealing with you know, looking at pictures.

You don't remember you got this brain fog. I have it chemo

brain. It's PTSD. And, but there you are. You're just blacked

out. And thank God she took you in. It's really important. It's

important. And so most I'm gonna start with you first. I mean,

you found him at work.

No, we were at home. I had gotten up to get

ready for work. He had fallen asleep in the other room. And I

came in it was his birthday. So I I just left him to sleep at

night and I came in to wake him up wish him happy birthday. And

I found him just after he had had a seizure. He couldn't talk.

He couldn't move. All he could do was shake his head yesterday

to answer my questions that I was asking him. And he he would

just completely out of it. He was posturing. His arm was like

this. And so he would be very combative. So I didn't call 911.

I got it. I got got him up, got him ready, got it got him into

the car. He finally came to a little bit of a

Google research and hospitals where their star

reviews. It's amazing that you thought like

You're a big guy. I mean, again, you actually got

him to take a few steps and get him into the

coffee. I gave him a few minutes. I sat here

and stared at him for a minute and then I figured if he came to

he probably would be weirded out by that. So I just kept coming.

As I was getting stuff gathered up to take to go to hospital. He

started to come around a little bit. I got him into my jeep.

Forgot masks ran back in and by the time I was coming back out

within three seconds, he was already getting out of my jeep

and trying to get back into the house. He had no idea what was

going on. He didn't know what where we were going even though

he had agreed to go to the hospital. And he was trying to

get back in the house. He's like, where are we going?

Then she got me Howard. She

got I made him shake on it. I said we're going

to the hospital this man even in psychoses won't back out of a

handshake. So I got him to the hospital. And that's how I said

You shook on it. And he agreed he pushed every button literally

in my on my radio on the way there. It was like a six year

old, just completely ridiculous. And he's like, where are we

gone? Why? Why he had no concept of any thing that he didn't

remember what happened to him?

Yeah, we do dumb stuff. My blood pressure went

like 247 over 150 and I drove myself to the emergency room we

do dumb stuff probably should have called 911. But you gotta

you know what's crazy is that I fell asleep one day.

And I woke up like three years later. And I was like what has

happened to my life.

He was fine. The night before he was he was he was some seemingly

normal but like I literally think

there was a couple of things that led us directly

into this though. So the Sunday before my birthday was on a

Wednesday. So the Sunday before my birthday, we had got ticket

to go to Chicago, the musical in Detroit. I stood up in the first

or second act right in the middle of the afternoon, my wife

threw money in her face and said, My Ubers here, I'm bored.

I'm bored and walked out. And I would obviously never ever leave

my wife in Detroit ever, because that's not something we do. And

then I leaned over in front of her desk as I was walking

through the office one day and I said, I'm gonna squeeze I'm

gonna squeeze my brains out. I'm screaming. And the telltale sign

was I wore a collared shirt in to my place of business

backwards. And the GM I remember I remember this kind of like a

little bit. I remember that he came over my desk two or three

different times and was like, Hey, man, are you okay? And I

was like, everything's fine. Like, leave me alone. And then

the fourth time he came over, I threw my fist on my desk and I

was like, What are you talking about? And he's like, Carl, are

you fucking with me? And you said you're wearing your

collared shirt backwards. Still in defiance? I pull my arms out

of my shirt and I spin it around, and I realised that he's

right. And I snatched my keys off my desk and I walked out of

there was like, I don't know went home.

But he didn't know how to get home. We live

five miles from where we were when I couldn't get home and

know how to get home.

I couldn't get to work or from work. I was driving

to Ann Arbour where I used to work for like five years, I was

getting like halfway to in arbour going, Oh, my God, I

don't work here anymore, and then driving all the way back to

Lavonia like I would leave an hour early for work and be 10

minutes late. Yeah. And it's a 10 minute drive.

So these are some telltale signs and things like

that. So you enter into the emergency room, and they're all

there and they take you in what happens next.

They started to run some tests on they did they

did blood work, and then they did a CT scan. And they came

back and said there was a mask. We didn't know what it was. So

then they scheduled the MRI and they took them down for the MRI.

And that's when they came back, started shaking and back and

told us that he has a huge tumour in his brain. The centre

line of his brain was over here. So the tumour was almost to the

left side of his brain. And his mother was there with us. And so

we were just trying to process what they were saying. And then

they actually sent him to by ambulance to a different

hospital, one row of Beaumont did actually do the Korean

economy, because where I took him was just a smaller hospital.

So they weren't they didn't have the technology to do the

craniotomy. So they transferred him there. And then that's when

the surgery took place.

Same day.

No, they actually scheduled it for the next day.

But then they tried to push it back a day and my best friend

and I went crazy

on they actually had to take a day and show her how

to move my arms and legs because they expected me to be paralysed

from the neck down for the rest of my life. Yeah, yeah. So they

showed her how to basically be like my caretaker for an entire

day for an entire day before they were going back because

they expect me to come out and be paralysed. And then she comes

to sheet like we're talking one minute follows up one minute,

Oh, stop. They were expecting me to be paralysed from the neck

down for the rest of my life. And she said, Then, all these

people run laughing and shit. And she comes in to the room and

I was doing wheelies in my wheelchair, and she looks at the

doctor and goes, well, he's not paralysed. He's like, Well, I

guess not. Like, surgeon, we met by a surgeon, Dr. Jacobs, who

are our first name dropping, we're not, but we've never had a

surgeon. And he was like, he was like, like testing my arm

strength testing my leg strength and was like, looking at my

face. And like, you know, like, you're really he's like, here's

your strong. And I'm like, Yeah, I always have been. He's like,

No, you're like, really strong. And I'm like, you say it, like I

shouldn't be. He's like, we don't have any faith grouping or

anything. And I'm like, Yeah, then you actually say, hey,

Alison, like I showed her face paralysis. And he's like, You

should. He's like, we cut out a big movement portion of your

brain. You should have weakness in one side of your body or

something. He goes your frickin freak. I'm like, I'll take that.

I'm a little freakish.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's Oh, my God. So that that

surgery, you stayed in the hospital a little time and then

did you have to do any rehab or a couple

Couple of days? No,

rehab was amazing. walk the halls with a

walker. And then he didn't need it. So we just started picking

it up and carrying it and they were laughing at him. But but he

was a terrible patient because he was in front of the he wasn't

the end of the hallway. They had to move in front of the nurse's

station. He kept ripping us out.

My IV looks great, right?

Yeah, he ripped his catheter out. He Oh,

everything. Oh, so they had to move him on his bed. I had to

stand that his bed for six hours when they tried to get out of

the bed.

Oh, you are a troublemaker Carl, you are just

a troublemaker, man.

Oh, catheter was worse. Howard.

I know. I've been. I've been there. So alright,

Carl, this is for you. What is your driving force?

Honestly, it's my support system. Now obviously, I

myself feel like I deserve to live. That is my that is I'm

fighting for myself above and beyond everything else. For my

obviously my wife and myself and our wives together. That is my

driving force. But really, it's my support system. I can't even

tell you the people that have come out of the woodwork. And

just like, friends wise, I put on my fundraiser like Lauren and

Katie, we love you too. I can't even like we had her best friend

and their husband put on a GoFundMe for like, we haven't

done anything to for any of these events, or any of these

things that happen. These people have just done this. And it's

freaking. I mean, it's the most touching thing in the world and

they with their support. With everybody's support coming in

like this. I'm able to take a little bit of time off work and

I can breathe a little bit easy. And I can pay for my

chemotherapy medication without having to kill myself working

5060 hours a week trying to just make ends meet, just to pay my

chemo medication.

Right. I have to tell you so one of the things

that that you saw is that in your time of need, people came,

they came. They it was time to be selfish, and they came for

you and you I can tell it because you are grateful for

that because it's helped. And it just shows you that there is

love in the world. There is care.

Yeah, I didn't realise how much I had touched

people's lives and inspired people. And then once I started

making my videos, and you know, doing so well through radiation,

like I'm not joking, I was gassing up 89 year old people

that were going through radiation, I'm like, go. I'm

telling you, it went from being a bad thing that people were

telling me, you know, this, you know, like, like, Miss Garcia

used to bring her her granddaughter and her

granddaughter was like, at her on her last day, they gave me a

card. And I'm like, I'm not supposed to be a yellow card.

And they were like, she was like, I want to let you know

that you have absolutely changed his experience. We went from

absolutely being scared and dreading this on our first day

to meeting you and looking forward to coming and doing this

on a daily basis. And they she's like, you've been her shining

light and all this darkness. And my grandma loves you. And I love

you. And we're here. Don't open it till July 7, we're dark

radiation. We were like, Oh my God. Like we made such good

friends and radiation that we like, still talk to them on

almost a daily basis.

People it's that you let them in and they it's

amazing. But Carl, you're like a big teddy bear. You're such a

cheerleader. You're so high energy and you're still rooting

other people on even though you're going through, you know,

the toughest thing that's ever happened to you. So your tickets

through so post-operation, what's different? What do you

have to do different anything?

I tell you what post operation I got a really good

kind of like poem that I read and it says And it goes

something like this I'm paraphrasing or something like

this brain tumour, you know, I hate you. Because I may never

know a day where I don't have to take a pill and may never know a

day where I don't have a headache. But at the end of the

day tumour, thank you for showing me how resilient I can

be and what kind of fighter I truly am. So that's kind of

that's kind of how I look at it. You know, I don't I'll take

multivitamins, magnesium nootropics I'll take Tylenol.

I'll take every single one of them every single day from here

on out if I get another 20 3040 years on his body

he appreciates like more now and family and to

call myself crazy Carl

2.0 I literally am. It's like It's like It's like

this tumour has been pushed on my brain. And it's been killing

my sense of self preservation. And I've been a wild child. I

mean, it's like, Hey, Carl Hawk, this snowmobile off this 40 foot

cliff. I'm like, Oh, for sure. No problem. Do it. No questions

asked.

I want to tell you that I just got like, shivers

when you read that poem, because that's deep and it's meaningful,

and it's intentional, and it's authentic and I loved it. And

I'm going to actually include it in the show notes because it's

so strong. And it really is and listen, you are carl.to Dotto.

I'm Humpty Dumpty dot two Dotto. And it shows you that we can get

back up again. Okay, after major life threatening, you know,

stopping in our tracks and putting the pieces back together

again. And so where are you at today? What how is how are you

today? Emotionally, physically the

weirdest thing in the world? Do you know what it's

like to be a cancer patient and feel like a cancer survivor

because that's how I feel. I almost feel guilty right now.

Because I feel like I have survivor's guilt, but I'm still

going through it. I tell you what, let me drop this bomb on

you real quick. This is really really really good news and we

just got it literally on Wednesday. Okay, my tumours

shrinking? Yeah. We killed all the new growth. We killed all

the new growth and we 50% Right the new tumour. My doctor, my

oncologist and my doctors told me chemo is not going to kill

this chemo is not killing it. I think what's making a difference

for me is cold plunging. I torture my body I go to the gym,

I workout I torture my body then I dip it in 4540 to 50 degree

water on between three and four days a week three to five days a

week for five to seven minutes every time we every time we do

it.

First of all, let's honour that because I

always I made a little bit of a joke when I got some shrinkage

from George Costanza on Seinfeld. shrinkage is good for

us. We like shrinkage

he won't let me talk about the shrinkage of both

things, you know?

happen but anyways, you're gonna get

banned. So I have to tell you, we each have our own way and

things so I go on the basketball court I played for two hours

this morning. I'm the old guy You know, and I played great and

I got my sweat. I didn't get hurt. But I love it because you

found that these cold plunges, okay? Are Changing you

physically and emotionally, and you're dedicated to it. You're

dedicated to it. And I love that because anything that works, and

you believe it works, it works and it worked and it works. I

told

people in radiation, I told people this, the power of

the mind is incredible. I said, I'm telling you right now, going

into radiation is going to be light work. It's not going to

affect me at all. Sure enough, me and my wife going to

radiation. It was light work. And it was nothing at all. I

told my wife chemo is gonna be nothing. It's just a couple

pills. Boom, there we go. Go to bed buys you buy and chemo has

been nothing. So far. Chemo grew my air back where I lost them

from radiation. I didn't get sick. I didn't throw up. I never

got physically fatigued, I was never fatigued. It wasn't like,

oh, I can go five steps. I can go 10 steps. It was like no, I

bet you I could do laps around the hospital right now. Then

we'll hit a badass workout chest and tricep neck and bicep grip

and rip tater chip.

You're the Energizer Bunny. So I want to I

want to say that that up. So the icing is no joke because we

developed in colon town, okay, which is a support for patients

and caregivers, this icing protocol. And at first it was

developed to wear an ice cap to preserve your hair because chemo

is toxic and you lose your hair. And now that's extended to

wearing mittens and booties because your extremities from

toxic chemotherapy can actually give you peripheral neuropathy.

I have it and it your cold sensitivity, your numbness and

burning in the hands and feet to various degrees on the toxicity.

I believe that your cold plunging is absolutely helping I

no doubt no ill it's doing something it is it really is. So

I appreciate that now, so call it real. This is one of the

first times that you're sharing your story. We're going to go

public, we're going to spread this all over the place. What

keeps you going man,

but you know what I tell you what it is. It is the

love and support from my family. And, and really bringing

everybody together. And finally, you know, and finally, and

finally appreciating life on just just different differently.

I wake up and I feel grateful every morning. You know? It's I

like that I am living proof that no matter how bad it gets, no

matter how bad it gets. I got here on shame. I dropped down

me. I got pulled I had three to six months to live. And

yesterday was my six month anniversary. I got told I got

three to six months to live. And I took it like a savage. I lie

snickered. And I said, that may be what your books say. But

that's not what I'm going to show you. I'm telling you, Doc,

if you want to dump on the guy to give it to you. And I think

that's what really helps me push forward. Even in the face of

adversity, even if even even when it's time to got to be the

absolute worst. I have never my brother said, I hope that

nothing bad ever happened to me, like what's happened to you? And

I said, and I said why? And he said, because the way that you

handled it was Savage. I'm gonna give you three words that I live

literally live my life by can change it. I woke up and I was

like, Oh my God, what has happened to my life? Where am I

and what what the hell. And instead of kicking and screaming

and throwing a fit, my brother was like, You got your brain cut

out you had brain cancer. And I honestly I give myself five

minutes. I give myself five minutes, I'll kick and scream

and cry and throw a hole on bitch fit. And after five

minutes, you have to look at yourself in the mirror and say

can't change it. Me and Melissa lost a son about seven years ago

together. My dad got als about three and a half years ago. All

right dog just passed away dog just passed away. So don't mind.

Me live our life by two models. And the two models are the

strongest things you can whether you're at the top of your life

and living the best life possible or at the absolute rock

bottom of your life. This too shall pass. No matter how bad

things get. It doesn't matter how good things are. You're not

going to have the best day of your life every single day of

your life and you're not going to have the worst day of your

life. Every single day of your life. It's just not going to

happen. So this too shall pass. Enjoy your high a feeling good

and enjoy the pain of feeling bad and when you're down it take

that into why do you feel bad? Can't change it and change it

Doesn't matter, no matter what I have brain cancer, no matter

what this is the reality of my life from here on out, they say

is incurable. They say, I'll have a tumour and the cancer,

the rest of my natural life. That's what they claim. I'm here

to prove them wrong. Period.

It's, it's, you're absolutely right. So we're dealt

art cards, I've gotten to stage four cancer type nation at 23.

And then again, at 53. And I'm breathing, and I'm making the

most of it. And I'm lifting myself up everyday, like, like

you do. And then we go lift up others. And we I to look in the

mirror every day. And we talked about this before, when we

talked prior is that I look and I'm say, I am blessed. I am

grateful. And I am damn lucky. I know you're damn lucky. And

we're going to lift ourselves up so that we can go lift each

other up. And I have to tell you, Melissa, as a care partner,

you are an angel on this earth. Okay, first of all, you saved

his life by getting his ass to the emergency room. There's no

question. All right, but also, you actually gave up everything

to make sure that he was going to survive. You were by his

bedside when he's ripping out catheters. And yes, I was trying

to tame this tiger, which is hard to do. But you do it.

It was a job in itself.

I just want to tell you that from you know, my

wife and my parents or my caregivers, I can see it in you.

You are an angel on this earth, and really is. Yeah, so. So

again, that's why he's still here. And that's why you are so

strong together. And it's really important. So

It brought us closer together.

We are an unstoppable force. Yeah, I love

that I see the unstoppable t shirt. And I love

it. So it's great. Alright, so here's the part of the show. So

I put on my sunglasses, because the sun is shining brightly on

us. And on you guys. It's really amazing. And I want people to

say, how did they get in touch with you? Because they hear this

interview? And they say, Okay, can I donate to your GoFundMe?

We'll put the link in the show notes. And we'll put it up

there. What can you help other people which of course you can.

All right

I would love to,

I appreciate that. So tell people how they should

get a hold of you. And then I want each of you to give me some

final thoughts as we close out the show.

Awesome. Y'all can reach out on my on my Facebook,

I'm sure Howard Howard will provide a link, I have a tick

tock. But Facebook is pretty much the best way to get a hold

of me. You could always write me, you can always my cell

phones, right on my Facebook, you can always call me or text

me. I'm ready to talk with anybody at any point in time.

I'm very positive. And I'm really I really, really, really

truly believe that this whole thing is all about your attitude

and all about what you take away from it. If you believe this

won't be anything, I won't affect your life. I promise you

it won't. And if you believe that this is going to be

terrible, and you think woe is me, how could this happen to me?

How can this then I promise you you're fixing to have a bad

time. You have to aim up. You can't ever put one foot in the

grave and dig down. You have to aim up. When the storm comes the

little birds, they look for shelter. But the eagle flies

above the clouds fly above the clouds have a positive attitude

about this. The only thing negative is your attitude. I

promise you, any other thing can be beat with your mind. This can

be beat with your mind. I have stage four brain cancer. And I

promise you you will have my word that I will beat this 100%

They say I am 100% terminal. I have a 5% chance of living

longer than 15 months and a 1% chance living longer than 24

They say I will make my 40th birthday. I can't makewait to

eat cake with my doctor.

Maybe we're gonna be in some cake. Oh, wait, that

was strong. You brought it all right, Melissa, some final

thoughts from you, baby.

I can't compare to what he had to say. But surely you go

first.

That's all right.

Just the positivity. I mean, he actually keeps me

positive. And I tried to do the same for him. But waking up with

him every single day he lets go. You know everything is about

your mindset. Be positive, be positive for your partner,

whoever you're caring for. Be positive with them for them.

They'll do the same back to you even though they might not be

feeling great that day. It's so helpful if you keep each other up.

I feel good every day though. I'm on baseball.

Oh my god, that energy's below that. So I want

to go. Let's go. Come on, coach. All right. So I just want to say

I am grateful to have you your energy is just I'm feeling it.

I'm feeling like we can go conquer a mountain together. And

I'm just so pleased that we're sharing your story. So for those

that want to get in touch with me shining brightly.com You can

come hear me speak, hire me to speak. Come on and check out the

podcast. It's actually building up an incredible following over

20,000 downloads now it's inspirational, as you heard

today live and now on recording, and then also my advocacy and

the book, mentoring. We're gonna get you mentoring to Carl

through Imerman Angels. And so remember when we you shine

brightly a little bit each day, which we just did for ourselves,

for others and our communities. The world does become a better

place. Thank you too, so much. So a huge, huge hug. You guys

are the best I love it. And we're gonna see you soon and

we're gonna meet up because we're back on brother we'll come

on an update we'll certainly get an update when I beat this Yeah,

you're gonna keep shining brightly everyone. Love you all.

Love ya.