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This week, Sean and Todd welcome back one of the show's most beloved guests — Tracy from Voices by Tracy. A bilingual voice actor based out of Montreal, Tracy holds the record for most appearances on SeanGeek and FastFret, and this episode proves exactly why.
What starts as a trip down memory lane quickly becomes one of the most wide-ranging, heartfelt, and laugh-out-loud episodes the show has ever produced.
We dive deep into the music that shaped a generation — Chilliwack, Headpins, Rush, Cinderella, Winger, Slaughter, Alice in Chains, Tesla, Triumph, and more — but this episode is about much more than music. It's about the friendships, the memories, and the moments that music soundtracks.
This week we cover:
- The cassette tapes that started it all — how a Chevette, a tape deck, and a trip to Moncton shaped Todd's musical DNA
- Tracy's legendary street encounter with Kip Winger and Paul Taylor — and what happened when she opened her mouth
- The night Beavis and Butt-Head killed Winger's career overnight — from sold-out shows to empty rooms in 48 hours
- The resurgence of hair metal — Monsters of Rock Cruise, Sebastian Bach and Slaughter coming to Winnipeg June 17th
- Tim Kelly of Slaughter — a tribute to the guitarist lost too soon
- Alice in Chains covering Rush's Tears — and why Jerry Cantrell remains the most talked-about guitarist of the grunge era
- Whale and Wasp from Jar of Flies — the instrumental that gets Sean every single time
- The seven year cellular theory — and what it has to do with relationships, reinvention, and finding yourself
- Tracy's story of rebuilding from the ground up during the pandemic — the three pillars that saved her
- Sean's story of living in his car for two weeks after losing his marriage and job in the same week — and why he never told anyone
- Todd's transformation — and why the smile says everything
- The Patreon tiers — Certified Geek ($5), True Geek ($10), Supreme Geek ($20), and yes, the legendary $75 Metal Shoppe song suggestion tier
- Tracy does a live movie trailer voice for SeanGeek and FastFret — and absolutely nails it
Pass or Go: Cinderella's Once Around the Ride — Tracy says go. Immediately.
Music featured this episode: Chilliwack, Headpins, Rush, Cinderella, Winger, Slaughter, Alice in Chains, Tesla, Triumph, Mr. Big, In This Moment, Coroner
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Takeaways:
- The podcast dives deep into the evolution of music trends over the decades, highlighting how genres like grunge impacted hair metal bands like Winger.
- We share personal anecdotes about our favorite music memories and how they shaped our lives, emphasizing the power of nostalgia.
- There's a hilarious segment about a dentist visit where one of the speakers humorously recounts an unexpected encounter with nitrous oxide.
- Listeners are encouraged to engage with us on Patreon, where they can submit topics and participate in our interactive discussions.
- One of the key themes is the importance of resilience and personal growth, with reflections on overcoming challenges and embracing change.
- We discuss the influence of various iconic bands, sharing our love for artists like Cinderella and the impact they had on our musical journeys.
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Transcripts
Listen to the Sean, Sean Geek.
Speaker A:The Sean Geeking Crash Site Podcast.
Speaker B:Yeah, you got it, folks.
Speaker B:It's me again with a little aptitude for all you out here in white bread land.
Speaker B:Let's see, we're on 92 FM.
Speaker B:Feels like a nice, clean little band so far.
Speaker B:No one else is using it.
Speaker B:The price is right.
Speaker B:Don't you find it, crusty Dave?
Speaker B:This is bigger than friendship.
Speaker B:This is what you call cousin.
Speaker B:And the Buddhist is called, let me see.
Speaker B:Reincarnation.
Speaker A:Mushi.
Speaker A:Mushi.
Speaker A:Hey, wait a minute.
Speaker A:Since when is Pismo beach inside a cave, I wonder?
Speaker B:You know, I just think we should have turned left at Albuquerque and then maybe a right turn at La Jola.
Speaker A:Shush.
Speaker B:Hush, please.
Speaker C:The Champ.
Speaker C:Ever since I've been the champ, been losing it.
Speaker C:Been out of my mind.
Speaker C:Been crazy.
Speaker C:Been.
Speaker C:Been really, really, really, really in pain with my teeth.
Speaker C:I've had a lot of problems with my teeth lately.
Speaker C:And, you know, you probably heard every one of them, me going to the dentist and.
Speaker C:And, you know, I never.
Speaker C:I never believed in the tooth fairy until I've seen my dentist walk, right?
Speaker C:Anyway, he comes over to me and he says, champ, would you like some nitrous oxide?
Speaker C:I said, well, I'm not into drugs, right?
Speaker C:I don't like the drugs.
Speaker C:I don't like the gas thing, right?
Speaker C:He said, I got to give you the needle, champ.
Speaker C:You're a big, tough boy.
Speaker C:I remember when you fought Liston, right?
Speaker C:You fought Liston.
Speaker C:He went down, he snapped.
Speaker C:You get back up, and he hit you so many times, I couldn't believe the pain you could take.
Speaker C:I said, doc, tell me how much pain I'm gonna feel.
Speaker C:He said, well, you might feel a small prick in your mouth.
Speaker D:Said, pardon?
Speaker C:I said, pardon.
Speaker C:He said, you might feel a small prick in your mouth.
Speaker C:Well, I lose it.
Speaker C:I snap.
Speaker C:I grab the nitrous oxide, right?
Speaker C:I put it right on his face.
Speaker C:He's laughing.
Speaker C:He's just laughing.
Speaker C:He's floating around the room.
Speaker C:Here comes the double hammerhead scissor kick to the groin, right?
Speaker C:I hit him so many times on the right, he was begging for a left.
Speaker C:Put him down in the dentist chair.
Speaker C:Spun him around, he was still laughing.
Speaker C:I stopped him with my big number 12.
Speaker C:Boom.
Speaker C:Right there on the ground.
Speaker C:I said, how's that, pal?
Speaker C:Does that look like I'll feel a small prick in my mouth Enough for you?
Speaker C:Ever since I've been the champ.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:That was great.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Kind of sound like Jesse Ventura.
Speaker A:I think that's exactly What?
Speaker B:He was going for the minister of Minnesota.
Speaker B:Governor of Minnesota.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Jesse the Bod.
Speaker B:Yeah, the body.
Speaker B:They started calling himself Jesse the Brain after that.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:Smart man.
Speaker B:Very smart man.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So, hey.
Speaker B:So, hey, hey, hey, guys.
Speaker B:We didn't play a theme song.
Speaker B:We didn't do anything.
Speaker B:We just jumped right into it.
Speaker A:That's right, Todd.
Speaker A:Hit the ground running.
Speaker B:What do we do?
Speaker B:This is the.
Speaker B:What's our.
Speaker B:What's our show, Todd?
Speaker B:This is the John Geek and Fast for it podcast.
Speaker A:Gonna have to work on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Sound effects.
Speaker B:Hey, we're not professional voice people like someone else in that room, so.
Speaker A:No, you guys are awesome.
Speaker A:You guys have a podcast, man.
Speaker A:I mean, that's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:No, that's.
Speaker B:Everybody has a podcast.
Speaker B:What's so special?
Speaker A:No, not me.
Speaker A:Not yet.
Speaker A:But you see, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm learning from the best.
Speaker A:I'm learning from the greats.
Speaker A:I'm learning from some seasoned pros.
Speaker A:So that's.
Speaker D:You've got a camera and you've got a microphone, so you're pretty much.
Speaker B:But you also have.
Speaker B:You also have the voice, which most people can't say they have.
Speaker A:Hi.
Speaker B:I'm gonna run a podcasting.
Speaker A:I was just like, no.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I have been told that I do give good phone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So for those listening, this is Tracy from Voices by Tracy.
Speaker B:And she was, at one point the person who guested the most on this show.
Speaker D:And then.
Speaker A:Did you get the checks?
Speaker A:Did they come through?
Speaker B:No, they came through.
Speaker B:That's great.
Speaker A:Ah, sweet.
Speaker B:And so it was you.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So, Todd, I'm gonna tell the story, if I may.
Speaker B:So you know that I revere you, Todd.
Speaker B:Quite a bit.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:To the point of embarrassment, usually.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Card.
Speaker B:Anyway, so.
Speaker B:So for you.
Speaker B:So I. I've always been afraid to ask, can we play music together?
Speaker B:I've always been afraid to ask, can we do the podcast together?
Speaker B:I've always been kind of like, he's not gonna say yes to that.
Speaker B:Like, he's got better to do than hang around with me.
Speaker B:So that's always been my opinion.
Speaker B:So then I'm like, okay, well, I'm gonna go to my friends and.
Speaker B:And see who's willing to do the podcast.
Speaker B:So I. I, you know, I like Trace.
Speaker B:Tracy was doing radio, I think, at the time.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:I'm like, shit, I'll get Tracy on.
Speaker B:I think it'll be fun.
Speaker B:We'll talk about, like, you know, the shitty music that you and I like and, you know, and.
Speaker B:And you know, talk about the greatness of Nuno Betancourt or Paul Gilbert or Rudy Sarzo, Eric Martin, like, whatever, right?
Speaker A:Rudy Starzo.
Speaker A:Oh my God, you have so much.
Speaker A:You have so much.
Speaker B:I have dirt on you, which we're gonna.
Speaker B:But so I wanted Tracy to do it, but Tracy was busy with stuff and, you know, life got in the way and so I just ended up doing it by myself for a while.
Speaker B:And then I'm like, I hit up Corey.
Speaker B:I was trying to get Corey, you know, Corey Geek himself to try to get him and.
Speaker B:But he wasn't always available.
Speaker B:I'm like, I just gotta do this on my own.
Speaker B:And then I'm like, well, why.
Speaker B:So then I got Todd.
Speaker B:I asked you, Todd, you want to.
Speaker D:Come on the show and just maybe show up for an episode?
Speaker B:I think I was all meek and.
Speaker B:And you came on.
Speaker D:You're not usually meek.
Speaker B:Well, with you I.
Speaker B:With you I was.
Speaker B:Oh, back then.
Speaker A:He holds you in high.
Speaker A:Selfless.
Speaker A:He holds you in high regard.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're Todd, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like White lion once said, the entire.
Speaker B:What's.
Speaker B:What's that?
Speaker B:One united world under Todd.
Speaker B:That's the line, isn't it?
Speaker A:In the white lines.
Speaker A:Exactly what Mike Tramp wrote.
Speaker B:That's exactly what he said.
Speaker B:I talked to, you know, I talked to Mike last week and he said, you know, when I wrote that, when I wrote that song, I wrote the song, I wrote it in.
Speaker B:In honor of Todd because he's from the Netherlands or something.
Speaker A:Oh, I see.
Speaker B:And that's what he said.
Speaker B:I wrote that song for.
Speaker B:For Todd, you know, but, but you know, the, the studio made him change it to God because apparently that'd be more accepted.
Speaker B:That's a.
Speaker B:More acceptable.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:That's just how rude.
Speaker B:But anyway, so Todd, Todd showed up a few times and then it's like,.
Speaker D:Was this during the.
Speaker D:The drive back home or was this before that?
Speaker B:This was kind of before that.
Speaker B:And then I'm like, well, this kind of works.
Speaker B:Like, I. I can't remember how I asked you, but you just kept showing up.
Speaker B:Because I'll be honest, get rid of them.
Speaker B:You've always shown up for your brother, Todd, so thank you very much.
Speaker B:You always show up for me.
Speaker B:Like every fucking time.
Speaker B:I don't even have to ask.
Speaker A:The Getty family, it's just like strong and rooted in values and just good, decent people.
Speaker B:But then what really, you know, made Todd the permanent co host of the show was when Sam told me, you've got no charisma, Sean.
Speaker B:It's all odd.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker B:You need to change the name of your show to the Fast Podcast.
Speaker B:The Fast Red Podcast, featuring Sean, who's your friend.
Speaker B:Son of a bitch.
Speaker B:Yikes.
Speaker B:Sam Solar.
Speaker B:That's his name.
Speaker B:We make fun of him on the Metal Shop.
Speaker B:So Todd.
Speaker B:I have listened to Todd, made his second appearance on the Metal Shop, and this might be better, even better than the last one.
Speaker B:What do you think?
Speaker D:Oh, this last.
Speaker D:The other.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:This week or last week?
Speaker D:Well, it's.
Speaker D:It's different, that's for sure.
Speaker B:Did you.
Speaker D:Because we were talking about.
Speaker D:Because we were talking about Personas in another podcast.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And this was like.
Speaker D:Okay, because normally when we do an interview, we're ourselves, Right.
Speaker D:We're not really trying to portray anyone else.
Speaker D:And this was kind of an oddity because the Metal Shop is like a whole different thing.
Speaker D:So it's like characters.
Speaker D:So let me see if I can put my.
Speaker D:My digital pitch shifter.
Speaker B:You got it there?
Speaker D:Yeah, I got it.
Speaker B:You want to give people a sample of what it sounds like Blur.
Speaker D:You know, I unplugged everything, so it's not really.
Speaker D:You'll have to go listen to Middle Shop.
Speaker B:It's out today.
Speaker B:It just came out today.
Speaker A:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker B:But I. I think, Todd, you're really loose on that episode.
Speaker B:I think you just.
Speaker B:You just totally went with it.
Speaker B:And like I said, like, you.
Speaker B:You made.
Speaker B:You made Alex basically spit his beer out, and I had to clean the table afterwards.
Speaker A:But now you see, a little too loose.
Speaker A:Oh, Todd was a really great lyric for a song.
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker D:A little too loose.
Speaker D:Like turn me loose, but a little too loose.
Speaker A:And In Oklahoma City, Mr. Big.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, the 90s called.
Speaker A:They want their song back.
Speaker B:So I guess I gotta.
Speaker B:I gotta.
Speaker B:I gotta share my screen and get ready for.
Speaker B:Because we're gonna start talking.
Speaker B:So one of the things that we had talked about doing.
Speaker B:Yes, Tracy and I talked about it and then.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So this episode is brought to you by the Mighty K. That's it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:The Mighty K. So she's a fan of the show.
Speaker B:Todd's familiar with Mighty K.
Speaker D:This show is brought to you by the letter.
Speaker B:K. By the letter K. It's brought to you by the letter K. Letter K. The mighty K. In the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:I don't know what the right word is.
Speaker B:I don't know the politically correct term, but I'm going to use the.
Speaker B:In the.
Speaker B:The uncre or un Critically politically correct term.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:That I am.
Speaker B:I already.
Speaker B:I. I go after my fans and I make Them fans usually, you know, like, I usually force them to become fans, I think.
Speaker A:Stalking.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was called spamming.
Speaker B:Like, I just spam.
Speaker B:So I. I was spamming because I'm a huge Mighty K fan, because she shows up kind of on the In Obscuria podcast, which is possibly my favorite podcast, or definitely top five.
Speaker B:And they play clips, audio clips of hers, and I'm like, oh, my God, I don't know who this Mighty K is, but she's awesome.
Speaker A:Sweet.
Speaker B:So I'm like.
Speaker B:So I messaged her.
Speaker B:What's going.
Speaker B:You know, your little bits on an obscurity are great.
Speaker B:She goes, I don't even know know what they're doing.
Speaker B:They're just putting my clips on there.
Speaker B:And I just send the messages to tell them I like the show.
Speaker B:And then next thing you know, I'm on the show and they take.
Speaker B:Play my clips completely out of context and they tell me that I hit pedestrians non stop.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:So now that's her shtick.
Speaker B:But I thought she's like, she's incredibly talented, like Tracy.
Speaker B:Go listen in Obscuria.
Speaker A:I certainly will.
Speaker B:Fantastic show.
Speaker B:Fantastic.
Speaker A:All right, so.
Speaker B:So I. I stalked her because I thought she was so funny.
Speaker B:And I'm like, I gotta.
Speaker B:I gotta give.
Speaker A:Shout out.
Speaker B:Shout out.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And a place to talk about her more because she's possibly one of the best fans for, you know, a whole bunch of podcasts.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So this one is for her.
Speaker A:She's enthusiast, she's dedicated, and she's authentic, and she's her.
Speaker B:And she likes our music.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, then I already.
Speaker D:That's pretty cool.
Speaker A:Love her.
Speaker B:So she asked for us because on.
Speaker B:As.
Speaker B:As an aside, Todd, you and I were.
Speaker B:You were.
Speaker B:Specifically you.
Speaker B:You probably remember this, but I think we're talking to Kevin Brown maybe.
Speaker B:And you said I was.
Speaker D:I was talking too close to the mic because it was popping or something.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:So I have to kind of ease back.
Speaker D:Can you.
Speaker D:Can you hear me popping or.
Speaker D:Or is it just when they come close?
Speaker B:It's just when you come close.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:You have to get a pop filter.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Ah, yes.
Speaker D:Sean has a.
Speaker D:Has one too.
Speaker B:I have a condom on my.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:Gotta change it every time.
Speaker B:But Todd made the comment.
Speaker B:The music I grew up on was.
Speaker B:What'd you say, Todd?
Speaker B:You said Chilliwack, you said Headpins, and you said Rush.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The producer.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The number two producer in podcasting, as I was told by Corey Morissette, I'm the number two.
Speaker B:I inserted a clip of the Three bands you mentioned in the order you mentioned them in.
Speaker B:And I played like 20 seconds of each song.
Speaker B:So I played.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:I'm going to play it right now.
Speaker B:Hang on.
Speaker B:This is the song that you mentioned.
Speaker D:That I mentioned.
Speaker B:This is the first song you mentioned.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker B:Four men in a rock and roll.
Speaker A:Band Fly at night in the morning we land Fly at night.
Speaker B:So I put that clip in.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker B:Followed by this one.
Speaker B:Hang on.
Speaker D:I can't see if I would have suggested that song.
Speaker B:Well, you didn't suggest that song specifically.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker D:Yeah, because they've got a lot of good songs.
Speaker D:But I went just kind of the slower.
Speaker B:Yeah, and I went to that one because that is their most popular song, by the way.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, it is.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And then I played this song.
Speaker A:Come on, turn it up, Turn it up Come on, turn it, Turn it down.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So safe to say we're Canadians, we.
Speaker D:Knew both of those songs.
Speaker B:Probably all the words to both of those songs.
Speaker D:Fair to say, when I first heard that song, that was when.
Speaker D:You remember Joe Weider,.
Speaker B:Personal friend.
Speaker D:Personal friend.
Speaker D:You know, with all the.
Speaker D:The bodybuilding supplements and the protein things, whatnot.
Speaker D:So Zap and I.
Speaker D:Well, back in that time is when we were kind of working out type.
Speaker B:Zap is my favorite drummer of all time.
Speaker B:I'm gonna put it up.
Speaker D:Yeah, he plays with the Yayas now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:In Montreal.
Speaker B:In Montreal, yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah, They're a Rolling Stone.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker D:Tribute band.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:I actually know.
Speaker D:So he's the.
Speaker D:The drummers.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So if you.
Speaker B:If you were to go see them, we're doing.
Speaker B:What's that thing called?
Speaker A:Cross promotional plugging?
Speaker B:No, we're doing this.
Speaker A:No, I should have made a left joint.
Speaker B:Yeah, we just did one of those.
Speaker B:So Zap was the first drummer in Todd's band, sometimes called Overload.
Speaker D:Well, not my band, but yeah, the.
Speaker D:The band that we had.
Speaker B:The band you had.
Speaker B:So Overload.
Speaker B:Or my Toma.
Speaker B:Which.
Speaker B:No, that was the second band.
Speaker B:Anyway, so that was Todd's drummer.
Speaker B:So he's the guy that's playing in.
Speaker B:What do they call the Yayas?
Speaker D:The Ayas.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Rolling Tone.
Speaker B:Rolling Stones.
Speaker B:Street band in Montreal.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, interesting.
Speaker B:So if you see them and you mention Todd's name, they're gonna freak out.
Speaker D:They'll freak out.
Speaker D:So the head pins reminded me of when I first heard the Headpins.
Speaker D:That was in that era, I guess you could say.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:When was it?
Speaker D:Like, beginning Junior High?
Speaker A:Early 80s.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Early mid-80s.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Wait.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was pre Van Halen, probably Right, Todd?
Speaker B:Pre.
Speaker B:Your discovery event, Hallon.
Speaker B:I mean, because your discovery was 84, right?
Speaker D:I think so, yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:84.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:That was my first.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:The first album I had was.
Speaker D: Yeah, the: Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker D:So I think it came out in.
Speaker D:Didn't come out in 85 or 83.
Speaker D:I was like a year difference, something like that.
Speaker B:Or that's when we heard it.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker D:For Christmas.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Okay, so how did.
Speaker B:So this is important and I'm gonna.
Speaker B:I want Tracy to answer this question too, but.
Speaker B:Todd, how the hell did you hear them?
Speaker B:The Head pins?
Speaker B:Now, I can understand hearing Fly.
Speaker B:Fly at Night or whatever by.
Speaker B:By Chilliwack.
Speaker B:Or Chilliwack, as my DK would say.
Speaker B:Now, I can understand you hearing that on the radio, but how the hell did you hear the head pins?
Speaker B:How was that discovery?
Speaker B:How did that happen?
Speaker D:Mike Bellaville, our second drummer, he had a.
Speaker D:They had a.
Speaker D:Was it a cutlass?
Speaker D:81 Cutlass, like those old police cars?
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, the Impalas or whatever.
Speaker D:Like the old.
Speaker D:So his dad had one of those, and it had a.
Speaker D:A tape deck in there and he.
Speaker B:Had an eight track.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:No, no.
Speaker B:Yeah, actually, that's wild.
Speaker B:I was high end for the early 80s.
Speaker D:He actually had Chilliwack Opus 7.
Speaker D:And then he had.
Speaker B:Oh, he had Opus.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And then he had Head pins.
Speaker D:Turn it Loud, I believe.
Speaker A:Yeah, Turn it.
Speaker A: I think that was his: Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And then.
Speaker D:I don't care if it was Rush or not, but.
Speaker D:And then he had a.
Speaker B:Well, you.
Speaker B:In the.
Speaker A:In the.
Speaker B:In the interview with Kevin Brown, you said.
Speaker B:You specifically said those two bands and Rush.
Speaker B:So they must have had the Rush tape, I would think.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:It might have been Fly By Night.
Speaker B:Fly By Night, That's.
Speaker B:That would be my thought.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And then Mike eventually had a Chevette and we'd go to Moncton, to the mall.
Speaker D:We'd drive down.
Speaker D:Mike, Norm, myself.
Speaker D:We'd hit McDonald's for the fries.
Speaker D:We'd go to Burger King for the burgers.
Speaker D:And then we'd.
Speaker D:We'd drive and.
Speaker B:Wait a minute.
Speaker B:No, no, rewind.
Speaker B:Rewind.
Speaker D:What?
Speaker D:What?
Speaker B:Say that.
Speaker B:Say that again.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker A:I actually understand.
Speaker B:Well, because you need to explain for everyone else.
Speaker B:No one else is going to get this reference.
Speaker D:Okay, well, first of all, while Zapp, we were playing together.
Speaker D:And then.
Speaker D:And then he stopped.
Speaker D:And then we played.
Speaker D:I played with Mike with drums, and Norm was playing bass, and myself, we all went to Mike's in the basement because Mike was a Drummer, of course, it's easier to play in his basement.
Speaker D:So we go there and jam on a Friday night and then after we were done, get in the.
Speaker D:In the Chevette, which we would call the vet.
Speaker A:The vet, yes.
Speaker A:It's not a core.
Speaker A:Shove it.
Speaker B:It's not a core.
Speaker B:It's a vet.
Speaker D:You're going to Moncton in the vet.
Speaker D:And of course, when you're.
Speaker D:When you're.
Speaker D:It's like a dog chasing.
Speaker D:Chasing a car.
Speaker D:You wouldn't know what to do with it when it caught it.
Speaker D:So you're driving by.
Speaker D:Where was this time in.
Speaker B:Sorry, we're promotionally paid to say the word a bunch of times.
Speaker D:Yes, good.
Speaker D:Up.
Speaker D:Going to go to Moncton.
Speaker B:Scout Oak.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker B:Go.
Speaker D:Yeah, so then from.
Speaker D:So yeah, so we, we drive to Moncton and then like I said, we'd.
Speaker D:Or we go to Burger King first and then we go to McDonald's.
Speaker D:We bring our Burger King into McDonald's.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker A:No way.
Speaker A:You need cajones to do that.
Speaker B:Are you serious?
Speaker D:Order fries.
Speaker D:I think we did.
Speaker A:Hey, why not?
Speaker B:Such.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker D:But I mean, we'd be in the car playing music and we'd be parked facing the drive through, I guess to see who was going through the drive through.
Speaker A:Wait, that's the excitement.
Speaker B:What do you mean?
Speaker B:What do you mean?
Speaker B:To see who's at the drive through?
Speaker B:Like, what do you mean?
Speaker D:Well, after you go through the drive through, instead of driving around, we'd park in the parking lot.
Speaker B:Like people scoping for.
Speaker B:For the ladies or chicks.
Speaker D:Well, I mean, yeah, they go by, but it's like, like I said, it's a dog.
Speaker D:Like a dog chasing, you know, a car.
Speaker D:You know, that's the height of excitement.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:So it was like we just kind of just drove around and that was kind of our.
Speaker D:Our Friday night.
Speaker D:So I think we got off the chain.
Speaker B:So funny.
Speaker A:Off the chain.
Speaker D:But yeah, it was.
Speaker D:Those are the good old days.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:They say, you know, when you grow older and the older people say, you know what?
Speaker D:These are the best days of your life.
Speaker D:At that point, when you're in those days, they are not.
Speaker A:Well, you can't appreciate it because you've only lived and like, you can't.
Speaker A:Like the hindsight thing.
Speaker A: Hindsight is: Speaker A:You don't have enough experience to.
Speaker A:To compare it to.
Speaker D:Yeah, there's no history.
Speaker D:It's it's like, exactly.
Speaker D:You're living in the now.
Speaker D:You're not going, oh, well, if I knew, you know, then what I knew now saying, you know, everyone says it would be a whole different.
Speaker D:You know, it might be.
Speaker D:It might be different, might not be.
Speaker D:But it might not be as shy of a person because it's like, you've lived life and it's like, what's the point of being shy?
Speaker D:Because when I was younger, like, I wouldn't say shit, I had a mouthful, so.
Speaker B:But you didn't need to.
Speaker B:You needed to say one word.
Speaker B:And you see, this is.
Speaker B:This is how.
Speaker B:This is how you and I remember those times.
Speaker B:You remember that.
Speaker B:And I remember you going, hello.
Speaker B:And then the girl's going, no, no, no.
Speaker B:Let's see, that's honest.
Speaker B:Me and Richard would go, wow, Sean is.
Speaker B:Todd is so slick.
Speaker B:He's so cool.
Speaker D:Maybe one day we can be cool like him.
Speaker B:That's what we used to say.
Speaker B:And of course.
Speaker B:But then your perspective is.
Speaker B:I wouldn't say shit if I had a mouthful.
Speaker B:Yeah, so it's interesting, the perspective, right?
Speaker D:It's not like I'm going around going, desire.
Speaker B:So you can do that now you.
Speaker A:Get away with Pablo, Francisco.
Speaker D:Yeah, I don't.
Speaker A:Yeah, I love Pablo.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:By the way, this is how my brain works.
Speaker A:You were talking about life being too short to be shy, and it truly is applicable because it's like, we only get.
Speaker A:And I'm gonna throw back to Cinderella.
Speaker A:See, everything is connected.
Speaker A:Once around the ride Only go.
Speaker A:Only get once around the ride.
Speaker B:I just discovered that song two weeks ago.
Speaker B:Yeah, I didn't know that song Rediscovered.
Speaker B:No, no, I never heard it.
Speaker B:Todd doesn't know it either, I'm sure.
Speaker A:Dude.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Okay, hang on.
Speaker B:I heard it and I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker B:How did I know it?
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker A:That was on the first album.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I don't know the first album.
Speaker B:I know the singles off the.
Speaker B:Todd, how familiar are you with the first album of Cinderella?
Speaker B:I. I know it back.
Speaker D:Like anything else, I'd have to hear a song and go, oh, yeah, I've heard it.
Speaker D:Or I've never heard it before.
Speaker B:See me the second album.
Speaker B:That was mine.
Speaker B:That was the one I bought the white cassette.
Speaker B:You know, whatever.
Speaker B:But I'm going to play.
Speaker B:I'm going to play this for a second for Todd, because I don't know who's playing the main.
Speaker B:The lead guitar on this track, but I assume it's Jeff Labar on this One because it doesn't sound like Tom.
Speaker B:It sounds like it.
Speaker D:It.
Speaker B:It's shredtastic.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker B:Okay, I'm going to play it for Todd.
Speaker B:Okay, so this is the pass.
Speaker B:Go see where squeezing in.
Speaker B:Pass or go Todd.
Speaker B:You raise your hand when you want to stop the song.
Speaker B:Because it's sh.
Speaker B:Or because you it's so good.
Speaker B:You got to talk about it.
Speaker B:You ready?
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay, here we go.
Speaker B:Is that loud enough?
Speaker B:Never let me put it louder.
Speaker A:In the cloud Smart Live wire I think baby won't do.
Speaker A:Deserve time with me body just chill just no second time.
Speaker D:I remember the COVID Yeah,.
Speaker A:That cover was actually shot in the daytime.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:They, they actually managed to get with the smoke and the lights and like the guys were like, it's daytime.
Speaker A:Like, why aren't we shooting at night?
Speaker A:And it's like.
Speaker A:And yeah, there was a whole video that I saw recently.
Speaker A:Constantly talking about how they managed to.
Speaker B:Get that when they covered this song on the Cinderella show that I listened to with Danny Paps and all those guys, they play this song.
Speaker B:Wait, can, can we just do this for a second?
Speaker A:We can do whatever you want.
Speaker B:We gotta play this because I was told this is the catchiest thing of all time.
Speaker A:Daddy Paps delivering the news.
Speaker A:Daddy.
Speaker A:For who?
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Sounds great.
Speaker B:It's horrible.
Speaker B:That's what I like about it.
Speaker D:I keep thinking about Basketball Jones from Cheech and Jones.
Speaker B:That's exactly the comment you made.
Speaker B:What is Basketball Jones?
Speaker D:Basketball Jones.
Speaker D:Oh, baby.
Speaker A:You know, one time that was pain Bow.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Yikes.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:Any who.
Speaker B:Much love.
Speaker B:I, I, I want to give a shout out to the Cinderella podcast.
Speaker B:They're actually called Mixtapes from Hell.
Speaker B:Danny Pabst is one of the greatest human beings of all time.
Speaker B:And so is his co host, Dwayne.
Speaker B:And so is the the guy, the mastermind, Corey Morissette, the this of the cmpu.
Speaker B:He is the galactus of podcasts.
Speaker B:Big shout out to them.
Speaker B:They're showing Cinderella is fantastic.
Speaker B:I highly recommend it.
Speaker B:I can't wait.
Speaker B:It comes out Thursdays.
Speaker B:Every Thursday.
Speaker A:I absolutely adore, adore Cinderella.
Speaker A:Like, I don't know how I came about them, but just they were right up there with Def Leppard and Y and T. And I remember just like at the back of a bus, because that's what you did.
Speaker A:You just like, you know, scribbled the, the logos of your favorite bands on the backs because you had, you know, a pen with you, supposedly.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And you just copied the logo, right?
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Like, sit at the back of the.
Speaker A:The bus and just.
Speaker A:I'd write Cinderella and Flipper, and now I'm admitted.
Speaker B:Did you ever.
Speaker B:Tracy, did you ever have, like, the iron on patches?
Speaker A:Oh, God, yeah.
Speaker B:Did you.
Speaker A:But the thing is, is I didn't know how to sew.
Speaker B:Well, they were iron on.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That's not allowed.
Speaker A:I was not allowed.
Speaker A:I was not allowed around anything that there was, like, dangerous or could have incited injury or whatever.
Speaker A:So I actually still have them, I think, in a box in my.
Speaker A:In my closet that I'm in right now.
Speaker A:And, like, I have, like, little.
Speaker A:What do they call them?
Speaker B:Ebay?
Speaker A:Those, probably.
Speaker A:But yeah, I have, like, a whole.
Speaker A:But I had.
Speaker A:I. I can't even remember.
Speaker A:I think I had, like, this huge patch of, like.
Speaker A:Like a back patch of Def Leppard.
Speaker D:Like a hole.
Speaker D:Like a big.
Speaker D:Yeah, it was like this big jean jacket or something.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Geez, you just, like, unlocked a whole bunch of memories.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker B:Okay, that just reminded me of something because I forgot to ask Todd about this.
Speaker B:I'm trying.
Speaker D:It's just.
Speaker D:That was the only thing that really brought me out of my shell.
Speaker A:What's that with music?
Speaker D:Amway.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:Believe it or not.
Speaker A:Wow, you're into pyramid schemes that early?
Speaker D:No.
Speaker D:Well, I was.
Speaker D:How old was I?
Speaker D:Like, 19, 20 years old.
Speaker D:I get suckered into the.
Speaker D:The thing, and then I. I did it for a while, but.
Speaker D:But what would happen was the guy would take me in the parking lot and just.
Speaker B:Wait a minute.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:What now?
Speaker A:He did what now?
Speaker D:He said.
Speaker D:Pardon.
Speaker C:Pardon?
Speaker D:I lost it.
Speaker A:I shoved a detergent bottle right up his pipe hole.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:Does that take about enough for you?
Speaker C:Ever since I've been the champ.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Okay, stop.
Speaker B:And I'm gonna pe.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's incontinence.
Speaker A:That's what happens when you get old.
Speaker A:But anyways, well, he's moving right along.
Speaker D:This doesn't have the other part of it.
Speaker B:Okay, okay.
Speaker B:Before.
Speaker B:Before.
Speaker B:Okay, you want to hear it again?
Speaker B:Wait, no, wait.
Speaker B:I'm gonna play this one.
Speaker B:I'm gonna put the Willy Waller in there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've got the fun fact Maxi actually collaborated with him, that he's actually back now he's relevant back in the news.
Speaker B:Wait, who's Maxi?
Speaker B:He's the guy.
Speaker A:Maxi is the.
Speaker A:No, not for no frills.
Speaker A:Maybe it's.
Speaker A:It's a grocery.
Speaker A:It's part of the.
Speaker A:The loblaws.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker D:Gotcha.
Speaker A:Banner.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I don't know what it's called.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B: I gotta add the Willy Waller: Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Well, this is what I was saying.
Speaker A: tually selling a Willy Waller: Speaker A:I know, right?
Speaker A:And I just.
Speaker A:I'm like, that's true.
Speaker A:I should probably get one just for.
Speaker A:Just for shits and giggles.
Speaker D:And I saw the English version of it.
Speaker D:It doesn't quite hit home.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker D:No, it's not the same.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker D:When you first hear it in French, like, if you're.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:If you understand what he's saying, it's like, just hilarious.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:This and this.
Speaker A:Like, he came out with this even before social media.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker D: Yeah, it was: Speaker A:No, actually, it was.
Speaker A: I think it was: Speaker A:But yeah, I mean, because I remember I was working downtown, and it was like, that was the only thing we could talk about because it was just so funny and so, like, inventive and new and interesting and funny as hell.
Speaker A:Yeah, but.
Speaker A:And then he just came out with a whole bunch of them.
Speaker A:And then he came out with his character of what is the.
Speaker A:Basically, like the lizard.
Speaker A:Lounge lizard type of a guy.
Speaker A:It was like, hey, my bel sil.
Speaker A:I'm like.
Speaker A:I was all a garlic bam.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go come and get you in my BMW.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:Just like sleaze bag.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:But yes, Larry, before I lose my.
Speaker B:Train of thought, Todd, because we might have to do this right now live on the air.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:We're doing it live.
Speaker B:What are you.
Speaker B:What are you doing on June 17, Todd?
Speaker D:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:June 17?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Am I supposed to be going on.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I'm bringing this up for the first time.
Speaker D:Oh, nothing that I'm aware of.
Speaker B:Do you want to go see Sebastian Bach with opener Slaughter at the Casino?
Speaker A:Don't tell me you're gonna go and see.
Speaker A:I'm missing it.
Speaker A:They're coming to Toronto on.
Speaker A:On the Friday, but I'm already going to see Rock of Rock of Ages on the Friday.
Speaker A:And it was like, Ottawa, Toronto.
Speaker A:And I'm like, it had to be on the same day.
Speaker A:I know, but that's all right.
Speaker B:So do you want to go?
Speaker A:Totally.
Speaker A:You guys need to go.
Speaker A:Please go.
Speaker B:I think we have to go, and I think we need to bring.
Speaker B:We need to record like we did when we saw Cheech and Chong.
Speaker D:Yeah, we'll.
Speaker D:We'll do a podcast live from the show.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, I would love to see Slaughter.
Speaker A:I mean, we saw them.
Speaker B:Well, I've seen them twice now.
Speaker B:I've seen them twice.
Speaker A:I think I've seen them twice.
Speaker B:You saw them with me once?
Speaker A:I saw, yeah.
Speaker B:Opening for whom?
Speaker A:Please.
Speaker A:Kiss, Cinderella.
Speaker A:The scoop of vanilla, scoop of chocolate.
Speaker A:Don't waste my time.
Speaker B:And it was them and Winger that opened for Kiss.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then, Todd, you saw Slaughter?
Speaker D:With whom?
Speaker D:Motley Crew?
Speaker D:No, no, no.
Speaker D:Slaughter.
Speaker D:I knew Slaughter blew whoever it was away.
Speaker A:Cold winter without your love.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:They played with Cinderella.
Speaker B:They opened for Cinderella on the Heartbreak Station tour.
Speaker A:Oh, then I must have seen them.
Speaker A:I have, like, all kinds of.
Speaker B:And I remember Todd saying, yes, Cinderella's pretty good, but Slaughter was amazing.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Blown away by Slaughter.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Then I went and bought their VHS tape, and it went through.
Speaker D:It went through the concerts, and it went through, like, when they're doing the signings, they went into their domiciles and they showed where they lived, and they lived kind of, you know, across from each other.
Speaker D:It'd be interesting to find out now, like, okay, they had all kinds of money, then they probably blew it all.
Speaker B:Well, they weren't big drug guys or anything, though, where they never know type.
Speaker D:Of thing to see if they actually invested any better or even had anything to invest.
Speaker B:Well, Tracy's gonna share what Mark Slaughter's been doing since those days, because she has the full window washing thing that I'm doing.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, let's play a little bit of.
Speaker B:Of them in the background here as.
Speaker A:You're talking, because there's been a resurgence in hair metal, like, the last.
Speaker A:I want to say, five years or so, because I'm.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:When I'm in the car, I listen to Hair Nation, and there's a lot of, like, Monsters of Rock cruises with Eddie Trunk and, like, the Trunk Monkey.
Speaker D:No, no, no.
Speaker A:I have no idea.
Speaker B:Different Trunk Guy.
Speaker A:Okay, I'm gonna say yes and move.
Speaker B:On because the Trunk Monkeys is a skit from our show, so.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker A:Okay, I knew that.
Speaker A:I knew that.
Speaker A:But, yeah, so it's like.
Speaker A:And there's.
Speaker A:There's so many different opportunities and kind of, like, events that are organized.
Speaker A:There's even, like, gonna say, like, a resort.
Speaker A:I want to see, like, in Mexico you can actually go to.
Speaker A:And it happens, like, at different times.
Speaker A:There's, like, I said, there's a cruise, there's a resort, and they only, like, they have.
Speaker B:So is that a cruise?
Speaker B:And A resort on the same.
Speaker A:There's actually two different ones I'm trying to remember, but like.
Speaker A:But you've got the Monsters of Rock Cruise.
Speaker A:It's very well known.
Speaker A:And I think that's in March or May.
Speaker A:Monsters of Rock.
Speaker A:And like, I want to.
Speaker B:They call it Mork.
Speaker B:The Monsters of Cruise.
Speaker B:The Mork.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think it was this.
Speaker A:It was in March.
Speaker A:I think it was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Mork.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:But whatever.
Speaker A:Hella lame.
Speaker A:It's a. Hella yeah.
Speaker A:You see, they got to go to the Grand Turk island and Puerto Plata and Miami.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There was Queens, Reich, Slaughter.
Speaker A:Slaughter.
Speaker A:C Y N T. Great White, Rip Russ.
Speaker A:God.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:I didn't study it for my test.
Speaker A:Dangerous Toys.
Speaker A:Killer Dwarfs.
Speaker D:Tora.
Speaker A:Tora.
Speaker A:Black and Blue.
Speaker B:Tora.
Speaker B:Tora would fit in really good with those.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, it's like they've got Enough's Enough.
Speaker A:Enough's Enough.
Speaker A:Oh man.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, so you see that.
Speaker A:But their second album was amazing.
Speaker B:The second album.
Speaker A:Their second album.
Speaker B:Who says that?
Speaker B:The second album.
Speaker B:Who says that?
Speaker B:I'm gonna get that clip ready because you guys are probably.
Speaker A:Hang on a second.
Speaker A:Because like.
Speaker A:Okay, you're talking about going on a tangent.
Speaker A:I'm like, it's enough.
Speaker B:They're going off on a tangent and there's never been.
Speaker B:And then there's just tangent the first place.
Speaker A:I think that's where I've gone completely off the rails.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:I'm going into the.
Speaker A:And driving into the trailer park.
Speaker A:There we are.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Let's see here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But all that to say that I'm not quite sure what Slaughter has been up to other than the fact that I was just looking them up.
Speaker A:But then something said squirrel and then I was gone.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:The first three albums of Enough's Enough were just epic and they just had to keep hearing.
Speaker B:I've only heard the first album.
Speaker B:I should really go and check it out.
Speaker A:Oh yes you do.
Speaker A:Truly.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I'm trying to remember because it's.
Speaker A:They like on the second one, they really touched upon really deep topics like abortion and just also losing your virginity.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It was like they had really deep lyrics and that were thought provoking.
Speaker A:Animals with human intelligence.
Speaker A:That's their third one, but kind of interesting.
Speaker A:But Strength.
Speaker A:Strength, that was their number two.
Speaker A: d one is enough's enough's in: Speaker A:I highly, highly recommend.
Speaker A:But anyways, back to you.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:But that being said, let's See here, you wanted to know what Slaughter was up to.
Speaker A:Let's see.
Speaker A:Because, you know, I've got.
Speaker A:I've got Dana Straub on you.
Speaker B:You keep vamping because I'm actually doing something here.
Speaker B:So you just keep going.
Speaker A:All right, so I'm just.
Speaker A:Okay, here we are.
Speaker A:So anyways, but as.
Speaker A:As you know, they're.
Speaker A:They're touring and they're going to be in Ottawa on June 19 and they're going to be in Winnipeg, presumably on June 17, which is a Wednesday.
Speaker A:But yeah, it was unfortunately Tim Kelly, who was their guitarist, I want to say, or bassist.
Speaker A:He unfortunately passed away.
Speaker D:Oh, really?
Speaker B:Oh, you didn't know that?
Speaker D:No, yeah, the guitarist.
Speaker A:Hang on a second.
Speaker B:The guitarist.
Speaker B:He was the lead guitars.
Speaker A:Yeah, he was.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was good.
Speaker D:I liked him.
Speaker A:Yeah, he passed.
Speaker A:I want to say he died while on tour.
Speaker A:It was fatal car accident traveling in Arizona and it was.
Speaker A:He was hit on.
Speaker A:Hit head on by an 18 wheeler.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker A:So unfortunately he did not get a chance to see, you know, the.
Speaker A:The popularity and.
Speaker A:And the stardom that they reached because he was.
Speaker A:Unfortunately, his time here was cut short.
Speaker B:But at least it was after the third album, right?
Speaker B:Wasn't it?
Speaker A: away in for the Love of Pete,: Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:How brute.
Speaker A:So, yeah, he was.
Speaker A:And they came out.
Speaker A:One was the first album, so that was 98.
Speaker A:Because they had this.
Speaker A:They had their self titled one, I want to say was like 88.
Speaker A:Hang on a second.
Speaker A:Stupid.
Speaker A:It was a 90 and then it was the wildlife in 92 and then fear no evil in 95, revolution in 97 and back to reality in 99.
Speaker A:Revolution is unequivocally like one of the best albums.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And yeah, you.
Speaker B:You made such a departure that one.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker A:Did I?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Todd.
Speaker B:I highly rec.
Speaker B:See, Todd would get a lot out of that album for sure.
Speaker B:No, so that was.
Speaker D:That was the last album.
Speaker A:4.
Speaker A:There it was.
Speaker A:Their last album was.
Speaker A:I think it was just looking at them.
Speaker A:Five, they've got six.
Speaker A:Revolution was their fourth and then Back to Reality was their fifth in 99.
Speaker A:But I mean, I have nothing to say on any of those because they're just.
Speaker A:Each and every one of them are amazing.
Speaker A:But yeah, it's.
Speaker A:He would have passed away right after finishing Revolution.
Speaker D:But I'll take a listen to those.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:No, they're.
Speaker B:They're totally worth it.
Speaker A:He does.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They do a really good cover of the.
Speaker A:Joe from the Eagles.
Speaker A:Joe Walsh,.
Speaker D:Funk49.
Speaker A:That's the baseball Rocky Mountain way.
Speaker D:Ah, okay.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, because.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:I forgot about that.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:I mean, that was my.
Speaker A:That was my coffee in the morning.
Speaker A:That was just like, you know, plug me in and I would just.
Speaker A:That was my.
Speaker B:So can I ask Tracy?
Speaker B:So, because Slaughter was.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We potentially could have run into Slaughter, Right.
Speaker B:If we had.
Speaker B:If.
Speaker B:I think we had done things a little bit different.
Speaker B:Different.
Speaker B:Because we ran.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker B:We ran into Winger on the street.
Speaker A:Winger and Paul Taylor.
Speaker B:Paul Taylor, yeah.
Speaker B:Just walking down the street.
Speaker B:They were looking for Johnny Rockets.
Speaker A:They were walking one way on the other side of the street and we were walking.
Speaker B:Didn't they hail us?
Speaker A:No, like, we saw them and they're like, oh, my.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker B:Because we saw them start at the beginning.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:As you do.
Speaker A:Because, you know.
Speaker A:So I don't know who saw who first, but I think it was like, oh, my God, who's that shirt guy?
Speaker A:That's Kip.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:And Paul Taylor.
Speaker A:And like, we just like Beeline and.
Speaker B:Who is that?
Speaker B:You have to tell Todd who that is.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:He knows who Kip Winger is.
Speaker D:But yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, so Paul Taylor was.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, he was so delicious.
Speaker B:Paul Taylor is.
Speaker A:Oh, I'll just.
Speaker B:There's no Kip Winger success without Paul Taylor, in my opinion.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:But I mean.
Speaker A:And anyways.
Speaker A:But yeah, so Kip Winger and Paul.
Speaker A:Paula Taylor was the.
Speaker B:We should be playing Winger in the background here.
Speaker B:What the am I doing?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Bad production.
Speaker B:Well, no, no, I was.
Speaker B:I was number two when we started.
Speaker B:Now I'm number three.
Speaker B:I gotta fix this here.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, it's so funny.
Speaker A:Gotta keep up.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it was Rod Morgenstein or Stein.
Speaker B:Wait, which band was that?
Speaker A:He was the drummer.
Speaker B:The needle.
Speaker B:Haywire.
Speaker A:Okay, that was Haywire.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was just gonna say.
Speaker A:Oh, I love that song.
Speaker B:Here's the Paul Taylor song I'm gonna play in the background.
Speaker B:Single right.
Speaker B:By Paul Taylor.
Speaker B:You probably can't hear it.
Speaker D:Paul Taylor.
Speaker D:I'm thinking, like an easy listening type song.
Speaker A:So Paul Taylor, he played keyboards, guitar, backing vocals, and he was a single.
Speaker B:Writer on this song.
Speaker D:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was.
Speaker A:That was yours.
Speaker A:That was your song on that album.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:In the Heart of the Young.
Speaker B:Oh, you wrote in the Heart of the Young, dude.
Speaker A:No, I'm saying that that was the name of the album.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, sorry.
Speaker A:That Fee was.
Speaker B:He wrote two songs on that album.
Speaker B:He wrote this one and the kind of the similarish track on side the opposite side.
Speaker A:Was it to.
Speaker A:Under one condition?
Speaker B:Maybe.
Speaker A:Because I have a feeling that this one wasn't about.
Speaker A:I have a. I have a vague recollection that this was about Kip's breakup with Rod Stewart's ex wife.
Speaker A:I'm trying to remember that he actually had her stolen from, like.
Speaker B:Well, that was Rod.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was Rod Stewart was Rachel Hunter.
Speaker A:Yes, exactly.
Speaker A:There we are.
Speaker B:Rachel Hunter.
Speaker B:And she left Kip Winger for Roger.
Speaker A:Dave's not here, man.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:This is randomly gonna play as they get my together.
Speaker A:Fun fact.
Speaker A:Originally written this song by Paul.
Speaker B:This particular song.
Speaker A:This particular song.
Speaker A:Miles Away.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:Paul Taylor offered it initially to Eric Martin of Mr. Big, who declined it even though he knew it was gonna be a hit.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Taylor states he wrote Miles Away for his girlfriend, Emmy Canaan.
Speaker A:Oh, well, there you go.
Speaker A:Who was one of the nasty habits, the background singers for Motley Crue.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:References.
Speaker A:Just one.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I had no idea.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Just blew my mind.
Speaker A:But anyways, yeah, so he was, like, super hot, and so I don't know what possessed me, but we both kind of walked up behind them, like speed walking.
Speaker A:And then I yelled out, I don't like.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Obviously I had chutzpah to sell back then.
Speaker A:But it was like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:Is that like the amazing Kip Winger and absolutely incredible Paul Taylor.
Speaker A:And they both turned around and I'm like, I remember.
Speaker A:That's what I said.
Speaker B:And they're like, oh, okay.
Speaker A:I know, right?
Speaker A:And I was like, wow.
Speaker A:I got damn.
Speaker A:I got lady balls.
Speaker A:I was just like, damn.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Because they were so hot.
Speaker B:Some balls are meant for dancing and some fancy dress.
Speaker A:I've got the biggest balls them all.
Speaker D:Anyway.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker D:Go on.
Speaker D:From the left to the.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker A:Anyway, so that was.
Speaker A:That will be etched in my mind forever.
Speaker A:Just that I was like, I can't believe I had the chutzpah to say that.
Speaker A:I was just like.
Speaker A:But obviously I had.
Speaker A:I gave zero.
Speaker A:All of my fields of.
Speaker A:Were barren.
Speaker A:So it was like none to give.
Speaker D:All your inhibitions just.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker A:Because my.
Speaker A:My ovaries exploded, obviously.
Speaker B:Wait, so, okay, so do you.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B:What happened after this?
Speaker A:I fainted.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I have no idea.
Speaker A:Like, we basically like.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I remember I said specifically, Paul, Miles Away is gold.
Speaker B:It is such a beautiful song.
Speaker B:And it's my song.
Speaker B:I can relate this song.
Speaker B:It's so amazing.
Speaker B:And Kip said something along lines.
Speaker B:Hi, I'm Kip Winger.
Speaker B:Because he wasn't getting.
Speaker B:He wasn't getting.
Speaker B:He wasn't getting any Felicia fellatio.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Well, he's.
Speaker B:He's used to getting, you know, people fawning over him.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But the thing like he has had quite the shitty life in the sense that his.
Speaker A:His wife passed away.
Speaker A:Wait, who's Skip Wingers wife?
Speaker B:He was married?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Was she 17 or.
Speaker A:You know, now she would be 55.
Speaker A:I. I actually saw a meme.
Speaker A:It was like, she's only 55.
Speaker A:She was like, yeah, that tracks 17.
Speaker B:Daddy says she's on welfare.
Speaker B:I don't know, whatever.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She's on her pension.
Speaker A:She's on her pension.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Welfare.
Speaker B:Pension.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:Oh, by the way, Kip's first name by the way is Charles.
Speaker A:Charles Frederick.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'll have you know, Kip's better.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Yo, dude, I'm like, kip, I like.
Speaker D:I work the fraternity.
Speaker A:Let's see here.
Speaker B:Does Todd know this song?
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker D:Mr. V. That's Paul Gilbert, right?
Speaker B:Paul Gilbert, Yeah.
Speaker B:I watched actually, I actually get a clip of Paul playing this.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:In the intro.
Speaker B:I was watching his fingers going, oh my God.
Speaker B:That's how you play that.
Speaker B:Fucking insane.
Speaker B:This guy, because he was in this band, often did not get the credit he should have gotten because of to be with you.
Speaker B:Which is a great song.
Speaker A:It's an amazing song.
Speaker B:But it was a throwaway track at the end of the album.
Speaker B:It was never meant to represent the.
Speaker A:Sound of the band, but that's usually what happens.
Speaker A:It's just kind of like, you know, a lot of either bands or record companies will say like, eh, you know, this is.
Speaker A:It's not gonna be good or whatever and.
Speaker A:And then it ends up like really breaking them.
Speaker A:Yeah, but.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:So just to get back to his wife.
Speaker A:So Winger had just finished his debut solo effort and his wife was killed in a car accident.
Speaker A:And this was.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Wait, wait, his.
Speaker B:His solo record, not the Winger album.
Speaker D:But.
Speaker A:No, no, like after the fact.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Because now I feel like a jerk for being such an.
Speaker A:But again.
Speaker A:But like, but the guy is brilliant.
Speaker A:Because now he's actually like re invented himself.
Speaker A:Like he's writing symphonies.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's writing like these.
Speaker B:It's classically trained, right?
Speaker A:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker A:But like just so incredibly brilliant that because he really.
Speaker A:They got lambasted like on.
Speaker A:On.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Unrightfully so.
Speaker A:Like just because of Beavis and Butthead and the fact that that guy was wearing like T shirt and like Winger sucks or wing.
Speaker A:And that was that whole.
Speaker B:Do you remember that story, Todd?
Speaker B:The Beavis and Buttheads?
Speaker D:I, I don't remember that particular story, but I do remember that Winger was kind of.
Speaker D:I don't know, they were shunned or they were put.
Speaker D:Yeah, but I wasn't really sure that was the impetus.
Speaker B:It was because they made fun of them on Beavis and Butthead.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker D:That's.
Speaker B:So they were.
Speaker B:They were riding then.
Speaker B:They were.
Speaker B:The first album went platinum, second album went platinum.
Speaker B:And it was around that time Beavis and Butt had made fun of them.
Speaker B:And then like it was literally night and day.
Speaker B:So they were selling out.
Speaker B:They were like, they're on the verge of headlining on their own.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:They're playing like, like small to mid level venues, selling out.
Speaker B:And in the interviews that I heard with the band, they said we went from selling out to two nights later being no.
Speaker B:1 In the audience.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:After that episode aired overnight.
Speaker A:And I mean, but I think also at that time the.
Speaker A:Yeah, and.
Speaker A:And also the, the.
Speaker A:The winds of change with regard to musical trends were kind of tending towards the grunge.
Speaker A:And so the Soundgarden, the Alice in Chains and the Nirvanas were kind of coming in and people were getting kind of tired of hair metal and they wanted something different.
Speaker A:And it was.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:They were basically the sacrificial lamb.
Speaker A:That basically was the stake that killed off hair metal at that point.
Speaker D:It was like disco when disco died.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker D:Hair metal showed up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they were burning.
Speaker B:They were burning records.
Speaker B:Disco records.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:Disco records.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:They were probably worth a fortune because now people are buying record players, obviously for nostalgic reasons because it always sounded like with all the craps, cracks and pops and all that.
Speaker B:But disco was so well produced though.
Speaker B:I was so.
Speaker B:Because I've gone back, I've done a re.
Speaker B:Listen to the ABBA albums.
Speaker B:I'm still working my way through the discography and I'm like, my God, it's so well produced.
Speaker B:So well produced.
Speaker A:They're still like even popular to this day.
Speaker A:But God, I love Lane Stacy's voice.
Speaker A:It's just unbelievable.
Speaker A:It was haunting.
Speaker A:And I have to tell you of one song that you have to find.
Speaker A:It's Alice in Chains.
Speaker A:They actually did this perfectly encompasses the both of you.
Speaker A:They actually did a cover of Rush's Tears.
Speaker A:You will ball.
Speaker A:Because it is so beautiful, obviously.
Speaker B:Well, we have the technology.
Speaker B:Do you want to give a quick.
Speaker A:We have the tech.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:I'll need to get It.
Speaker A:It's going to be a cinq mouchoir.
Speaker D:I gotta grab some tissue.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Because it's just so beautifully.
Speaker B:Are you familiar with the song, Todd?
Speaker B:Like the tears song?
Speaker B:Just in general.
Speaker B:The Rush song.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:Is that like, off the first album?
Speaker A:I think so.
Speaker A:It's about his daughter.
Speaker D:Like the purple or the Getty Lee's daughter, or depending on where you live.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:I've never heard this before.
Speaker B:Can you guys hear it?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:God, I love this song.
Speaker B:This is the second vocalist too,.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:H. Goosebumps.
Speaker A:H. Oh.
Speaker B:Apparently I already gave this a thumbs up.
Speaker D:Goosebumps.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:This is not Giddy's voice or it's a.
Speaker B:So this is their second singer, William Duvall.
Speaker B:Gotta replace Lane Staley.
Speaker A:Oh, I know, right?
Speaker B:The guitar right there.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:It's like there's so much sorrow and so much, like, passion.
Speaker B:To not acknowledge when we go.
Speaker B:It's a guitar's place.
Speaker B:Guitar player's name is.
Speaker A:Oh, Brown.
Speaker A:Was it?
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Or am I thinking of.
Speaker B:Yeah, sorry.
Speaker B:Jerry Cantrell.
Speaker A:Yeah, Jerry Can.
Speaker B:His ability to play emotion second to none.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Like just Niagara Falls when I first heard this song.
Speaker D:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:So, Todd, pass or go?
Speaker D:Oh, go for sure.
Speaker B:It's beautiful.
Speaker D:It's good.
Speaker B:It's absolutely beautiful.
Speaker B:So this is William Duvall, which people have accepted him as the second singer for Owls and Chains.
Speaker B:He's fantastic.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:He's very, very good.
Speaker A:To have a replacement, and those are big shoes to fill.
Speaker A:But I mean, what a.
Speaker A:Like, he's such a multi layered, colorful, like, rich vocalist.
Speaker A:It's insane.
Speaker B:So here's.
Speaker B:Here's another Alice in Chainsong that I'm not sure Todd might have heard this one.
Speaker B:You may not have.
Speaker B:Tracy.
Speaker B:I'm gonna put this on here.
Speaker B:And I'm curious if you guys know this one.
Speaker B:This is off their.
Speaker B:Their acoustic album.
Speaker A:Is it the MTV Unplugged or.
Speaker D:No, it's just.
Speaker B:It was an EP they put out Jar of Flies.
Speaker B:Just that.
Speaker B:That whale there.
Speaker B:It's called Whale and Wasp.
Speaker B:It sounds like a whale crying.
Speaker B:Even the way he's playing the acoustic.
Speaker B:This is the one that gets me every time.
Speaker B:It's just a straight instrumental.
Speaker A:Oh, it is?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah,.
Speaker A:It's beautiful.
Speaker B:Just the way he bends his notes and whatever.
Speaker B:It's just he's ridiculously talented.
Speaker A:Did Jerry Brown also play with Alison James?
Speaker A:Is it Jerry Brown?
Speaker B:Jerry Brown from Trickster.
Speaker A:Wait, hang on a second.
Speaker B:Jerry Brown?
Speaker A:Okay, wait.
Speaker B:Lawyer and former governor of California.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, yeah.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Carolyn.
Speaker D:Father Brian.
Speaker B:Jerry Cantrell was the guitar player, if that's who you're referring to.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm getting them mixed up.
Speaker A:Like, there's just.
Speaker A:There's a lot of overlap, but I have.
Speaker D:Jerry Cantrell's a Hampman, the Friedman, jj.
Speaker B:Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker B:It's got the be,.
Speaker D:Which is supposed to be a brown sound, and then Jerry's actual signature sound.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:That's pretty cool.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he was selling well.
Speaker A:Like, he put his name to Endorsed.
Speaker A:Yeah, Like a line of.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's just a little mini.
Speaker D:Like a 20 watt.
Speaker B:Out of all those grunge guys from the 90s, Jerry Cantrell's the guy that the guitar players still talk about.
Speaker B:Are there any other guitar players from the grunge era that people still talk about?
Speaker B:The people talk about Kim Thale from Soundgarden.
Speaker B:No, not really.
Speaker B:Like, nobody talks about.
Speaker B:I. I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker B:I don't think Kurt Cobain was phenomenal guitar player.
Speaker B:He had a good.
Speaker B:Good hook for melody vocally, and he was able to, you know, convey that on the guitar as well.
Speaker B:But I don't think he was a good guitar player.
Speaker B:He just had some hooks.
Speaker A:Maybe he was more, I guess, of a lyricist.
Speaker A:Like, he was very prolific in his lyrics.
Speaker D:I love this song.
Speaker B:See this.
Speaker B:This is my favorite Alice in Chain song of all time.
Speaker B:And this is a song that I. I'm gonna ask you formally here, Todd.
Speaker B:What if you and I did this song just for ourselves?
Speaker D:Sure, sure.
Speaker B:Because I can sing this song.
Speaker B:No problem.
Speaker B:I sing it all the time.
Speaker B:Because Cantrell's in.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker B:He's within my register.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Get that nasally.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:When I.
Speaker B:When I.
Speaker B:Okay, so going back.
Speaker B:Hearken.
Speaker B:Hearkening back to Tracy here.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Do you recall the open heart and a quesit Art?
Speaker A:Oh, yes.
Speaker A:Slam dunk.
Speaker A:Slam dunk.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That was like.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:It was like, ah, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, rip out your heart and slam dunk it into a Cuisinart.
Speaker A:Where was that from?
Speaker A:I say that all the time.
Speaker B:No, you.
Speaker D:You.
Speaker B:That's you.
Speaker A:It was a me thing.
Speaker A:It was a me thing.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So I made a mix.
Speaker B:My mixes I would sell.
Speaker B:People would pay me to do mixes.
Speaker B:Somehow.
Speaker B:I never really understood that, but I would make mixes for people, and they're like, I'm looking for something that's moody or blah, blah, whatever.
Speaker B:So I remember Tracy saying, oh, oh, that's like an open heart and a Cuisinart.
Speaker A:And that was like you like rip out your heart and slam dunk it into a Cuisinart.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's that.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:That was the actual line.
Speaker B:That was the actual line.
Speaker B:So I, I, I ran with that.
Speaker B:I'm like that actually.
Speaker B:I mean, it's funny.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:It's, it's very, you know, visual.
Speaker B:I'm actually looking up right now because I actually, I have it on my shelf there somewhere.
Speaker B:I actually, this is called Nutshell.
Speaker D:Nutshell.
Speaker B:So this was the lead track on the mix, Open Heart in a Cuisiner, which is on.
Speaker B:I made, I made the mix and I did it in YouTube music.
Speaker B:So this was the lead track.
Speaker B:Because this, when this song came out, I recently talked about on.
Speaker B:I don't know if Todd listened to it, but there was an episode, I did a solo episode talking about Concrete Blonde and my span of like 10 year span of being, you know, locked in depression or whatever and.
Speaker D:But this you're talking about, this one is like when you were living in your apartment.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker D:Like in that, in that area.
Speaker A:In your car.
Speaker B:Well, there was a part where I was living in my car too, which I don't know how much Todd knows.
Speaker D:About that, but I didn't know about that.
Speaker B:When I got divorced.
Speaker B:I didn't tell anybody.
Speaker B:And I don't think I told anybody for two weeks.
Speaker B:So I got kicked out of the house and I was living in my car for two weeks.
Speaker B:There's two chicken shit to tell you about it.
Speaker B:Todd was too chicken shit to tell mom and dad about it.
Speaker B:And I just stayed in my car for two weeks.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:I didn't have a job because I also, not only did I get divorced, but I also got fired from my job exactly on the same week.
Speaker A:The hits just kept coming.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, but I mean, look at you now.
Speaker A:Look at you now.
Speaker A:What you've been able to overcome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And just how much stronger you are.
Speaker A:So kudos to you, man.
Speaker A:Like, because you're made of tough stuff.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think, but I think, you know, I was, you know, they always say here, we're totally Albuquerque here.
Speaker A:All episodes doesn't.
Speaker A:Excuse me.
Speaker A:And I'm following right along with you.
Speaker D:Ups and downs.
Speaker A:We're going all because that's what.
Speaker B:But I, I think so.
Speaker B:There's this theory, and this might be like over most people's heads, but there's the theory that every seven years you've, you've expended all your cells in your body and your body replenishes itself.
Speaker B:Your cells are only good for about seven years.
Speaker B:So you get a replenishment every seven years.
Speaker B:So they say there's an evolution of your body.
Speaker B:Or not evolution, but a change in your body every seven years, which equates to the.
Speaker A:You evolve.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:Oh, wait, I got to turn this.
Speaker D:Up a little bit.
Speaker A:By the way, I just shared A Midsummer's Daydream.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Have you heard this song, Tracy?
Speaker A:This is Triumph.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, this sounds very familiar.
Speaker A:They're actually on tour.
Speaker B:Yeah, they just played Winnipeg actually.
Speaker A:And I'm.
Speaker A:I think they're coming to Montreal.
Speaker A:I can't recall.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, of course they're going there.
Speaker B:But so the idea you heard with the seven year itch, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:So every seven years.
Speaker B:So relationships generally last.
Speaker B:Can last up to seven years.
Speaker B:It's usually at seven years when your cells have been recycled, whatever, and all of a sudden I'm bored in this relationship or I need to move on.
Speaker B:So you've probably evolved, you've changed, your cells have replenished.
Speaker B:You're at that seven year point where everything changes.
Speaker B:And if the partner you're with doesn't change with you or not change with you, but you guys don't have this evolution, that's where a lot of breakups happen, is at that seven year mark.
Speaker B:Or some people don't even make it to the seven year mark.
Speaker B:But the idea is 100% you have a complete redo of your entire cellular structure every seven years.
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker A:Well, I think, I mean there to some extent there is like something, a grain of truth in there.
Speaker A:But like your skin cells regenerate at a slower rate than your blood cells or just like your, your, your organs are regenerating and creating new cells all the time.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, but.
Speaker B:And then you do a complete restructure every seven years.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, I think in order to simplify things.
Speaker A:But yeah, I mean, like, I'm not the same that I was seven years ago.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I went through a massive transformation, but I think a lot of people go through just like this process of everything burning to the ground and then you have to rebuild yourself.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And some people have it happen more than once.
Speaker A:I mean, for me it happened like just during the pandemic.
Speaker A:But I'm so grateful that it did happen because it was a complete deconstructing of myself, my soul, my mind, everything was gone.
Speaker A:But that was a lesson that I had to learn because I was not paying Attention.
Speaker A:I was not listening to my heart's desire and my soul.
Speaker A:Soul's purpose.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I was just, I was so focused on, you know, staying safe.
Speaker A:But life is not to be lived safely.
Speaker A:Like, you don't.
Speaker B:What do you think of that?
Speaker B:Life is not to be lived safely.
Speaker A:Like, you know, when you're, when you have a ship like it's supposed to be, you know, you send it out onto the, onto the ocean so that, you know, you get to have experiences.
Speaker A:And it, that's the, the whole quintessential idea behind Finding Nemo.
Speaker A:It's like the dad wanting desperately to protect him because he's handicapped or he has some sort of disability with his little fin and he doesn't want anything to happen to him.
Speaker A:And at the end of the story, it's like, well, if nothing happens to him, then nothing is going to happen to him.
Speaker A:And you can't grow from not having experiences that help you grow.
Speaker A:So it's just.
Speaker D:That's deep.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:We're talking about.
Speaker A:Thank you for attending my TED Talk.
Speaker B:Under the ocean deep.
Speaker A:Oh, like Mariana Trench deep.
Speaker A:And so never like Mariana Trench.
Speaker A:I didn't even know anyway.
Speaker A:I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker A:I would not be surprised.
Speaker A:But yeah, so it's like ultimately, you live, you learn.
Speaker A:I'm quoting Alanis Morrison.
Speaker B:Wait, you got a new.
Speaker B:You live, you learn.
Speaker A:You live, you live, you learn something, you learn.
Speaker A:But then Brett Butt, who's an amazing stand up comedian, he has this whole bit about Alanis Morissette.
Speaker A:It's like you read, you, you read something in a book and you learn, you learn.
Speaker A:But I mean, ultimately life is pain, but then from that pain you garner lessons and you become a better version of yourself.
Speaker A:I am so much better than I ever was.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker A:I'm actually living my life's purpose and living.
Speaker A:And I'm so grateful and so happy to be alive and just to have this experience, especially with you guys.
Speaker B:But you're, but the thing is, you're saying you're so grateful to be alive, but you're alive because you did the head hope and.
Speaker A:Yes, exactly.
Speaker A:Because I had to fight.
Speaker A:I basically, I tapped into this unknown pool of incredible strength and will to live like this survival instinct.
Speaker A:Instinct.
Speaker A:Because everything was taken away from me and I had to kind of tap into this.
Speaker A:Oh, no, hell no.
Speaker A:This is not gonna.
Speaker A:I am not going down this way.
Speaker A:And so when I understood that, okay, so by being a good girl all my life, and I still got, pardon my French over, I'm like, oh, hell no.
Speaker A:No, no, no, we're gonna rewrite this because everything I've been told so far as far as I know is a lie.
Speaker A:The only thing I knew were three things I said.
Speaker A:I knew that I believed in myself and I trusted myself and I loved myself.
Speaker A:And those were the three pillars statements that allowed me to rebuild to who I am today now.
Speaker A:And I'm, like, still shocked that I was able to.
Speaker A:To kind of stay the course and hang in there and just break, believe in myself so unconditionally when I had never been taught that.
Speaker A:Because essentially you learn from your environment and you, you see and you.
Speaker A:You watch other people doing things and you're like, ah, I could do that.
Speaker A:Like, you guys, like, like, you guys are giving me courage.
Speaker A:You're helping me see that it's possible.
Speaker A:You're giving me hope.
Speaker A:That's what you guys do.
Speaker A:And you had no idea that you were doing that.
Speaker B:See, I want to say the same thing too, for Todd.
Speaker B:When Todd met his.
Speaker B:His ladies, right, we saw.
Speaker B:And I don't know, I think I've talked to you about this before, Todd, right?
Speaker B:We saw you completely change.
Speaker B:Not change in a bad way, but there was.
Speaker B:There was this open up.
Speaker B:It's that seven year.
Speaker B:It's that seven year thing.
Speaker B:All of a sudden you shed all these, the old skin or cells or whatever you want to call it, and it's like, holy.
Speaker B:Like, this is what me and mom would say.
Speaker B:Look at that smile, right?
Speaker A:He was just lit up from the inside.
Speaker B:But then you had this.
Speaker B:You had the smile, you had the little laugh that you just had, right?
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Just right now.
Speaker B:Or like, see that?
Speaker B:See, you shed all that stuff.
Speaker B:And that's the thing.
Speaker B:Every seven years you shed.
Speaker B:You can choose to shed it or you can just keep it, you know.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:You can live in fear.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But the thing is, is, like, when your soul wants you to pay attention and like, needs you to go through something, you will, but then it's because it's for your greater good.
Speaker A:And all of the trials and tribulations and sacrifice and suffering that you went through brought you to the.
Speaker A:To that moment where you met your wife now, and.
Speaker A:But you would not have met her had you not gone through all of those challenges and all of those trials and tribulations and like, that you had suffered.
Speaker A:You had to suffer.
Speaker D:Well, I mean, we talked about that because it was like, you know what?
Speaker D:Yes, we should have met each other, you know, 30 years ago or whatever.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker D:And it's like but if we would have, we wouldn't have.
Speaker D:We had to go through everything that we both had to go through to get to where we are now.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Because if.
Speaker A:If your aunt had will, she'd be a bicycle.
Speaker A:It's like, ultimately, you have all these things happen for a reason.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:God, I love this song.
Speaker B:I knew this because it relates to.
Speaker B:It relates to what Todd is saying.
Speaker B:What you give, what you get.
Speaker B:What you get is what you give.
Speaker B:Todd's giving to his relationship 100%.
Speaker B:Todd gives to me this show that he little.
Speaker B:This little show he gives me this May long weekend, which is coming up, which we're going to talk about in a sec.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker B:These are little things that keep me going.
Speaker B:Like, I'm never gonna get in the pit that I was in.
Speaker B:Talked about a couple episodes about.
Speaker B:There's no chance.
Speaker B:There's no way Todd would ever let me get so down.
Speaker B:There's no way my family would ever let me start.
Speaker B:And Tracy, you're never gonna let me get.
Speaker A:Never.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know that.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:We have our support system here, which is great.
Speaker A:We do.
Speaker A:We're not alone.
Speaker A:Never.
Speaker B:I think there's a lyric.
Speaker D:I go on.
Speaker B:There's probably a lyric if you keep going.
Speaker D:Another.
Speaker D:Here's another song.
Speaker D:It's like a segue to every song.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker D:Background.
Speaker A:That's right, exactly.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:It's like the.
Speaker D:The Pink Floyd, the Wall and.
Speaker D:What was it, the movie Alice or Alice in one line.
Speaker D:Wizard of Oz.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Where it's playing in the background while you're watching the show.
Speaker D:Apparently it's supposed to.
Speaker A:Yeah, it syncs up supposedly by the.
Speaker A:I think, like the third roar of.
Speaker A:Of the lion.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:That's when you start the album and then supposedly everything syncs up, presumably.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:I mean, they were interviewing him regarding that and he was saying.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, they.
Speaker D:It is now.
Speaker D:They.
Speaker D:They've got it all on YouTube type thing.
Speaker D:They've got it all synced up already so you can watch it.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker D:Thing so.
Speaker D:And I've never watched it to see, but.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker D:But I think you probably have to.
Speaker A:Be all hyped up on the goofballs.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:All hopped up and.
Speaker A:Yeah, actually, they had.
Speaker A:I'm sure it's touring, but they had the 50th anniversary of Dark side of the Moon, and they had some sort of a visual.
Speaker A:It was like a movie that it was showing on, like, planetarium screens.
Speaker A:So, like, basically, you're just like, lying there in your beanbag and you're looking up and like, super psychedelic, trippy, but it was extremely well done.
Speaker D:Yeah, they had it here at the Planetary.
Speaker A:Oh, did they?
Speaker A:Oh, there you go.
Speaker D:I think, I don't think I've seen it.
Speaker D:It's almost like the movie with the hammers going, you know.
Speaker A:Well, it's something different in the sense that it's all digitally created.
Speaker A:Like it's just visual things.
Speaker A:It's not a storyline per se, it's just different scenes that are digitally recreated, like on this backdrop of like the dark side of the moon.
Speaker A:It's trippy, but it's really well done.
Speaker A:But I love Tesla so much.
Speaker D:Yeah, I'll play a Love song with, you know, I'll play guitar to it just because I like, I just like the song.
Speaker B:Yeah, but just that whole intro to Love Song on the acoustic guitar, it's got shades of like Randy Rhodes in there, Leona Boyd, Spanish fly instrumental or whatever.
Speaker B:Like there's all those things in there.
Speaker A:I think it was.
Speaker A:Love Song was actually one of my friends wedding.
Speaker A:The first dance.
Speaker B:Oh, really?
Speaker A:His wedding?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he even told me like back in the 90s, he's like, when I get married, that's gonna be my, my, the first song that I danced to with my wife.
Speaker A:And, and sure enough.
Speaker A:Yeah, he actually, and, and I asked him, I said, did you?
Speaker A:Goes, yeah, I did.
Speaker A:That's, that's my friend.
Speaker A:Evil.
Speaker B:Evil, Evil.
Speaker B:Now there's a, there's an Acadian name, there's Evon.
Speaker A:I miss, I, God, I miss.
Speaker A:Just shuck.
Speaker A:I, I, I love.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I think I've sent you a couple of videos.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, I, I subscribed to those two people like instantly.
Speaker B:This is a bunch of shiachisms, Todd.
Speaker B:But then they explain like where this, where this shit came from, right?
Speaker A:The structure and just like how the, the etymology of the words and how they came about.
Speaker A:Because a lot of shiak is from the old French, like from, from France and say like V. Like that's like old French.
Speaker B:But, but there's, there's a.
Speaker B:Was it etymology or whatever it's called.
Speaker A:Well, that means a reason for it.
Speaker A:It's like the root, it's kind of like the definite.
Speaker A:Like where it comes from.
Speaker D:The other Pal de hard.
Speaker D:Or what was the.
Speaker A:Or something.
Speaker D:Do you remember?
Speaker D:Do you remember La Seguin?
Speaker A:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker A:I've never.
Speaker B:You're familiar with the Saguin though?
Speaker A:Sure, absolutely.
Speaker A:My aunt is, is from.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:I didn't know that.
Speaker D:My ex girlfriend, that was her aunt.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:I didn't know that.
Speaker A:Oh, My gosh.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker D:That was.
Speaker D:I think that was her.
Speaker D:Her aunt.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker D:Yeah,.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I want to play this.
Speaker B:This sound clip here on purpose.
Speaker B:On purpose.
Speaker B:Nothing I've done is on purpose.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So, Todd, you're talking about Norm, you talk about Zap, and we're talking about the Seguenn and all this sort of stuff.
Speaker B:And I told you, I found.
Speaker B:I found.
Speaker B:I got a cassette player and I plugged it into my computer with a.
Speaker B:With a patch cord, so for the headphone jack to go out to a usb, plugged it into my computer, plugged it into Reaper, which is what we use, Todd and I both use, to mix music and stuff.
Speaker B:And I was able to recognize the signal and convert it into an MP3.
Speaker B:So I've been working on a bunch of stuff, and this is one of them.
Speaker B:Wait, is it going to play?
Speaker A:Is it what I think you're going to play?
Speaker B:Oh, hell.
Speaker A:All righty then.
Speaker A:By the way, just as a.
Speaker A:As a tangent, you want.
Speaker A:If you want to listen to a really.
Speaker A:Another amazing song.
Speaker A:It's a band called in this Moment, and the song is called oh, Lord, but in this.
Speaker B:In this moment,.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:It's actually headed by a female vocalist.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:In this Moment is the band.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the name of the song is called oh, Lord.
Speaker A:New song.
Speaker B:Oh, wait.
Speaker A:Coroner.
Speaker A:Coroner.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:What the hell?
Speaker A:You're not necessarily her, but pronounce somebody dead.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:Okay, I'm going to play some mass Jack.
Speaker A:We got to find it first.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:This is Mask Jackal from Coroner from their second album, Punishment for Decay.
Speaker B:Second album.
Speaker B:Are you.
Speaker D:Are you impressed?
Speaker D:All right.
Speaker D:To their fringe.
Speaker B:Oh, fuck.
Speaker B:I missed that guy.
Speaker B:I missed that guy so fucking hard.
Speaker B:Okay, anyway, in this moment.
Speaker B:What was it?
Speaker B:What was it?
Speaker A:The name of the song is called oh, Lord.
Speaker A:I actually put the link in the.
Speaker A:In the chat.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:I found it.
Speaker C:Here we go.
Speaker D:I gotta turn it up.
Speaker A:I guess she actually did a song.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:From myself.
Speaker A:Won't you forgive me?
Speaker A:For I have lost control.
Speaker A:Oh Lord, won't you please hear me?
Speaker A:Do I obey?
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker A:Come on, Demon.
Speaker A:You show me about the shadow or the.
Speaker A:Here comes the chorus.
Speaker A:Strapping.
Speaker A:With.
Speaker A:Oh, God, I must see on.
Speaker A:The water I.
Speaker B:Go.
Speaker B:It's not a pass to go, go.
Speaker B:What's your thoughts, Todd?
Speaker A:You should see the video.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:The song is good.
Speaker D:Not something I would probably listen to all the time, but it's a good song.
Speaker D:It has that.
Speaker D:That radio or what Is it?
Speaker D:You're talking into a telephone.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It kind of has that,.
Speaker D:But I can't remember what.
Speaker D:What band that was.
Speaker B:Boys used to do it all the time.
Speaker B:They used to sing through.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was like an old timey microphone.
Speaker B:Like it sounds like an old record player.
Speaker B:Like with the gramophones.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker A:She actually.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:She actually did another song with Rob Halford called Black Wedding and.
Speaker B:I just did.
Speaker B:I did an album.
Speaker B:Rob Halford, You.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm jealous.
Speaker A:Yikes.
Speaker B:No, I know.
Speaker B:I say that in the highest regard because.
Speaker B:Good on you.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker A:I don't know how it came about, but I mean, yeah, she's got some talent.
Speaker B:I. I like the vocal.
Speaker B:There's a lot of things that she's doing there that she's different from a vocalist perspective.
Speaker D:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm really grooving on.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But anyways, we've recorded.
Speaker B:We've recorded for a while.
Speaker B:We barely talked about.
Speaker B:We didn't talk about.
Speaker B:Too loud, McLeod.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I guess you're gonna have to bring me back.
Speaker B:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, that's fine.
Speaker D:For sure.
Speaker B:I mean, you can Albuquerque with the best of us, so.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:What a great honor.
Speaker A:This is awesome.
Speaker B:That was fun.
Speaker B:Actually, we had a plan.
Speaker B:We totally didn't stick the landing.
Speaker B:We ended up in.
Speaker B:We ended up in Gander, Newfoundland.
Speaker B:We were trying to go to Toronto,.
Speaker A:Nova Scotia, but.
Speaker A:Please help me.
Speaker B:But just remember, the jets were lousy.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:I think that that sums up the.
Speaker B:The jets this season, right, Todd?
Speaker A:Yeah, they were a good.
Speaker A:They were a good team, but they died.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Last year they were.
Speaker D:They won pretty much almost every game.
Speaker A:How far did they get and did they even make it to.
Speaker D:They got the.
Speaker D:That was at the Heisner or the trophy, you know, and.
Speaker D:But then once they hit the playoffs, they just.
Speaker D:Yeah, well, I mean, everybody was.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker B:That was their season.
Speaker D:Everybody got injured and.
Speaker D:Oh, just terrible.
Speaker A:It's a show.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's unfortunate.
Speaker A:Oh, well, next year their golf game will get better.
Speaker A:Just like the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Speaker B:Okay, Toad, there's something we got to do before we sign off.
Speaker B:Before Tracy gives her particulars.
Speaker B:What is.
Speaker B:What is it we have to do?
Speaker B:We always forget to do, but we have to do as part of our.
Speaker D:We have to talk about the new patron, Patreon.
Speaker A:Oh, patreon.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The $74.
Speaker B:The $75 patreon.
Speaker D:$75.
Speaker A:And Sean will come to your house and give you a good night.
Speaker A:So he'll he'll read a good night book to you.
Speaker A:He signed up for the, for the platinum.
Speaker B:Chaz messaged me today.
Speaker B:He goes, oh my God, I can't stop fucking laughing.
Speaker B:Lick my rim or whatever it is that I said.
Speaker A:Oh my gosh.
Speaker B:When I was talking about.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:Who's it?
Speaker B:I was probably talking about Maroon 5 again.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker D:Oh no.
Speaker B:But he said, holy, I can't stop laughing.
Speaker A:Well, that means you're doing something pretty awesome.
Speaker D:Yeah, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, sorry Todd, go on, I cut you off.
Speaker A:Back to you.
Speaker D:Oh no, just, just to say that we've got three.
Speaker D:It's three tiers, right?
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker D:There's a Certified Geek, which is number one, which is $5 a month.
Speaker D:There's a True Geek, which is $10 a month.
Speaker D:And there's Supreme Geek, which is $20 a month.
Speaker D:And I don't know if you want to explain which.
Speaker D:What you get in each tier.
Speaker B:Sure, I have it right here.
Speaker B:I'm going to pull it up.
Speaker D:I just hopped on my big whiteboard.
Speaker B:$5 A month early access, that's available in all tiers.
Speaker B:You get your name on every episode, which we're going to do in a second.
Speaker B:You get to also submit your pass or go suggestions.
Speaker B:So our Pass or go game, which, which somehow is the most popular segment on the show, which we did a few rounds of it here today with Tracy, you can submit your own pass or go's to our show and we will do them on the show.
Speaker B:True Geek, the $10 one.
Speaker B:You get access to our discord.
Speaker B:You can come chat us on there.
Speaker B:You also have access to the Wheel of topics, also called the Wheel of Spite by Nick Jones.
Speaker B:He said it's the Wheel of Spite.
Speaker B:If you want to give stuff for us to talk about.
Speaker B:Hey, it'd be really fun if you guys talked about electrical toilets.
Speaker B:We will do it.
Speaker B:If you get on the ten dollar tier, we'll talk about electrical toilets, batteries or banana seats.
Speaker B:Banana seats, which is a very hot topic for us.
Speaker B:And super geek is the $20 a month.
Speaker B:We will do a personal video and send it to you.
Speaker B:You will be named on all social media as a top sponsor of the show.
Speaker B:And then there's the $75 tier.
Speaker B:You can submit songs to those creeps on the metal shop.
Speaker B:Todd, what the were you doing on the metal shop?
Speaker B:Why are you talking to Noman and Rory?
Speaker B:And why were you being friendly with those two assholes?
Speaker D:I, you know, I just showed up.
Speaker B:I hope you gave them what for.
Speaker D:Well, with Three.
Speaker B:You give them what?
Speaker B:Three?
Speaker D:There's only three of us.
Speaker B:There's only three.
Speaker B:Yeah, they think we're supposed to pay them or some, but I don't know those two yahoos.
Speaker A:Someone's got a case of the spouses.
Speaker B:Yeah, supposed to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But anyway, so that's our Patreon, Tracy.
Speaker B:Where do you find.
Speaker B:Where do we find your stuff?
Speaker A:My stuff?
Speaker A:You can find me on the Face page or Facebook or Instagram.
Speaker A:The book of Face.
Speaker A:The face.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Sit on my face.
Speaker A:I actually have a website called Voices by Tracy.
Speaker A:I am a bilingual voice actor based out of Montreal, Quebec, Canada, and I have a YouTube page.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So find me on the socials and love chat with you and talk music, because, you know, just that's.
Speaker A:That's what keeps me sane.
Speaker B:So imagine this done way better in a world where only one podcaster and his brother can survive the apocalypse, but done with a much better voice and feminine.
Speaker D:That would be.
Speaker B:Tracy.
Speaker A:Fight.
Speaker B:You do it.
Speaker B:You do it.
Speaker B:You do it right now.
Speaker B:Do it right now.
Speaker B:Come on in.
Speaker B:Stop laughing.
Speaker A:In a world where there are only two amazing podcasts, Sean Geek and Fast Frat on the Shangeek and Fast Frat Podcast available on all your socials.
Speaker A:Like skip, cry, and Comment.
Speaker B:That's pretty good.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Sweet.
Speaker A:Hey, man, I was just like, improv.
Speaker A:I'm, like, throwing.
Speaker B:We gave you a direction.
Speaker A:It's all right.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:I'm just like.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm flying by the seat of my pants and I am wearing pants.
Speaker B:At least you're wearing pants and you can fly by the seat of them.
Speaker D:And if you happen to see the Yayas.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker D:Talk to the drummer, Mark.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker D:Zap.
Speaker D:And just say.
Speaker D:Tell them that we say hi.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I'll go and find them the Yaya's.
Speaker B:And you can tell him that he is still my favorite drummer.
Speaker B:Even above Neil Peart.
Speaker B:He's my favorite drummer.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Well, that is.
Speaker A:That's saying something.
Speaker A:But I will.
Speaker A:I will definitely look them up and.
Speaker A:But you guys are just epic and so incredibly kind and generous to let me just shoot the shit with you guys because this is so much fun and I'm just so grateful that I got a chance to catch up with you guys.
Speaker A:And this is just.
Speaker A:You guys make me happy.
Speaker A:And I'm so grateful that you guys have this platform because you guys are just awesome.
Speaker B:Aw, thanks.
Speaker B:This was great.
Speaker B:Checks in the mail.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker D:But anyways, had a great time.
Speaker D:Had a great time.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Our socials.
Speaker B:All socials.
Speaker B:Including the Patreon page, is Sean Geek podcast.
Speaker B:So at Shangpodcast or Shangpodcast, you'll find us on everything from LinkedIn to Trump's Twitter to Facebook, Instagram, meta, whatever.
Speaker B:We're on everything.
Speaker B:Send us a message.
Speaker B:And just like that, ding.
Speaker B:We will.
Speaker B:We will reply to all requests.
Speaker D:And you can also find us@sean mcginnity.ca that's S E A N M C G I N I T Y dot.
Speaker B:CA I feel like Todd should be doing this.
Speaker B:No one's gonna get the visual, but I'm gonna do this.
Speaker B:S E A.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:You remember what that was from?
Speaker A:Oh, I do.
Speaker A:Yes, I do.
Speaker A:Yes, I do.
Speaker A:Yes, I do.
Speaker A:That's why I'm like, they put it in the hole.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:All right, we're going to sign off here.
Speaker B:Okay, thanks.
Speaker A:Thank you for listening, and we'll see you next week.
Speaker A:And bye.
Speaker A:Have a good day.
