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Preparing To File Your 2023 Taxes in Retirement
Episode 2485th February 2024 • Secure Your Retirement • Secure Your Retirement
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In this Episode of the Secure Your Retirement Podcast, Radon, Murs, and Taylor discuss how to prepare to file for the 2023 taxes. The first things you should be looking at include your different sources of income and tax forms connected to that income.

Listen in to learn the importance of working with a professional tax preparer to avoid misreporting different income taxes. You will also learn why you should report your Qualified Charitable Distributions and Roth conversions to your tax preparer to avoid overpaying taxes or paying penalties.

In this episode, find out:

  • Things to think about your taxes to avoid last-minute rush come April 15th.
  • The difference between the two types of 1099 forms you should know to avoid confusion.
  • The importance of working with a professional tax preparer to avoid misreporting rental income taxes.
  • When it’s worth and not worth it to itemize your expenses for your tax preparer.
  • The importance of reporting your Qualified Charitable Distributions to reap tax benefits.
  • Why you should report your Roth conversions to your tax preparer to avoid paying penalties.
  • Understanding how your Roth IRA contributions impact your tax returns.
  • Ensure your tax preparer has your correct date of birth on file if you turn sixty-five to avoid overpaying taxes.

Tweetable Quotes:

  • "Consider all your diverse revenue streams and locate the corresponding tax form as your initial step."- Taylor Wolverton
  • “You want to send as much documentation as you can get for both income and expenses associated with your rental property to your tax preparer this year.”- Taylor Wolverton

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Radon Stancil:

Welcome, everyone, to Secure Your Retirement. We're certainly happy to have you with us today. Today, we are going to talk about something that everybody loves, and that is getting ready to file their taxes. Obviously, we're in that time of year where we got to get all this stuff together. What Murs and I did is we brought on the person who helps us in all of our clients do that, and she is our very own Taylor Wolverton who helps all of our clients with tax planning, tax strategy. Thank you, Taylor, for coming on and talking to us today.

Taylor Wolverton:

Yeah, thanks for having me.

Radon Stancil:

Okay. We got this idea that I'm getting ready for taxes. I don't know about you, but somewhere around right now, my anxiety level starts to grow when I start thinking about taxes, only because I'm just thinking, "Oh, man, I got all these things I got to get together." But I have to do a personal return and a business return, and so it's kind like I'm just starting to see all this stuff come in. Let me ask you this, Taylor, just to get us started: what kind of things would you recommend that people start thinking about just to get ready so that it's not last-minute stressful zone come April 15th?

Taylor Wolverton:

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Murs Tariq:

that'll get overlooked is the:

Taylor Wolverton:

Right.

Murs Tariq:

ago, no one really got those:

The other 1099... You got the 1099 for the IRAs. That's nice and simple that says, "Here's how much you took out and you need to pay taxes on," or maybe you had some taxes withheld. One that gets overlooked sometimes is a 1099 from a brokerage account, a non-qualified account, or a non IRA account. That's not as simple as "here's how much you took out," it's way more about what interest was earned in that account, what capital gains were realized in that account, any dividends and things like that. Hopefully, if you're working with a CPA, then all you have to do is hand that off. But I just wanted make those distinctions on those different types of 1099s that can throw some people off or confuse people as well.

Taylor Wolverton:

did change so much throughout:

Radon Stancil:

All right. I've got a question. When it comes to... We named all these different places of income, but we do have some clients that have rentals. They're not going to get any documentation from that. They just have to... What are they going to do there? Explain that as far as... Let's say I got some rentals. Maybe it's new, maybe I've got a house that I started doing an Airbnb with or something like that.

Taylor Wolverton:

want the... I think it's the:

And then, any expenses that you had associated with your rental property for maintenance or travel to and from your rental property, any repairs, things like that associated with your rental property, you'll just want documentation to show what expenses you put into your rental property for the year. That can all be used as deductions against your rental income to limit the amount of taxes that you do pay on the income from your rental properties. As much documentation as you can get for both the income and the expenses associated with your rental property, you'll want to send all of that to your tax preparer for this year.

Murs Tariq:

Let's keep on going with the expenses, because the battle with filing taxes is, "Do I take the standard deduction or am I able to itemize this year?" A big key part of being able to itemize is tracking how you spend money. Taylor, can you walk us through some of the different... You went through the rental expense side, but just someone personally, the expenses that they should keep track of that's going to help them or their CPA make that decision for them.

Taylor Wolverton:

Yeah. I've talked with a couple of people this year about this already. Is it even worth it to gather all of those little details if you don't actually itemize each year? Some of those things would be your own mortgage interest on your property that you're living in, your primary home if you still have a mortgage, and then also your property taxes on your cars, and then also your primary home or real estate taxes on your primary home. Any charitable donations that you made throughout this year, you'll want receipts to show those dollar amounts that went to each charity if you were donating to multiple. Let's see. What else? I'm sure I'm forgetting some other things, too

Radon Stancil:

While you're thinking of that... I'm going to let you think on that one, but I'm going to jump to another question.

Taylor Wolverton:

Yeah, go ahead.

Radon Stancil:

Yeah. Because one of the things that we talked about briefly right before we started recording was this idea... Because you've helped a lot of clients this year with things like QCDs and on those kinds of things, could you walk us through if somebody did a qualified charitable distribution, what they need to think about when it comes to that?

Taylor Wolverton:

Yes, that's really important. Okay, one other thing. Back to the itemized expenses, the one thing I was forgetting, but I was going to say is medical expenses may or may not make a difference. There is an amount that you have to get over for medical expenses. If you have those things, it's probably worth it just to submit documentation for your mortgage interest, medical expenses, charitable donations, property taxes, all that kind of stuff to your tax preparer. If that's fairly consistent year to year and you're not itemizing year to year, it's probably not worth it. I know it is a lot of work to go and get all your receipts and donations and all those kinds of things to get all of that together, but if you're working with a new tax preparer, I'll probably just submit it starting out just to make sure you're not missing out on any additional deductions that you would otherwise get from taking the itemized deduction as opposed to the standard.

year, I believe we did, or in:

There is no code to say this was a QCD. There's no asterisk, there's no note from the custodian, there's nothing on the tax form to show that it was a QCD, as opposed to just a normal distribution that went to your checking account instead of to the charity. If you did take advantage of a qualified charitable distribution in 2023, make sure you tell your tax preparer that that's a QCD. Even if you took distributions from your IRA normally... Let's say you just took $50,000 in distributions over the year and you also did a $5,000 qualified charitable distribution, your 1099-R will show that your distributions for the year was $55,000 and it will show as the taxable portion.

If your tax preparer does not know that $5,000 of your distributions went to a charity as a qualified charitable distribution, then they'll probably just report it as all taxable and it will completely negate the whole point of doing a QCD. So, context matters. Make sure you're supporting or you're submitting additional documentation to show that it went to a charity rather than just to your own checking account. Yes, that definitely matters.

Murs Tariq:

Yeah, that's very important. We did several QCDs last year. Something else that we did a lot of is Roth conversions. Taylor, can you speak on Roth conversions, the documentation, as well as maybe also include Roth contributions and IRA contributions, because those are things that we need to keep track of as well.

Taylor Wolverton:

Yes. Like Roth... I'm sorry. Like QCDs, Roth conversions, there's nothing to specify that it was actually a Roth conversion as opposed to just a normal distribution from your IRA. Sometimes it doesn't matter whether it was a Roth conversion or a distribution. I mean, it shows up on your tax return the same way. It's still fully taxable to you whether it went to your checking account or whether it was sent over to your Roth IRA, but sometimes you may get hit with an underpayment penalty if... For example, one of our clients did a Roth conversion in November and they also made estimated tax payments in November. Because the IRS is a pay-as-you-go system, they want you to be paying your taxes at the same time that you're receiving income. If you do a Roth conversion in November and you make estimated tax payments in November, which is what the IRS wants you to do, you need to tell your tax preparer that you did that Roth conversion in November and you made the estimated tax payments in November.

they'll assume, because your:

Another thing that matters, too, is if your... For example, we did a Roth conversion for a client who is 57 last year. She is not able to take distributions from her IRA normally because she's not over the age of 59 and a half. If you take distributions from your IRA before you're over the age of 59 and a half, you will also pay a penalty in addition to taxes on that amount. If it's actually a Roth conversion and not a distribution, you want to make sure your tax preparer knows that, especially if you're under the age of 59 and a half, so you're not also paying penalties on your Roth conversion when that is completely unnecessary. Yeah. Again, like QCDs for Roth conversions, context matters. The more detail that you get to your tax preparer on what that was, when it happened, then the better it is for them, and they don't have to try and figure it out themselves. So

Radon Stancil:

Yeah. Excellent. Can you think of anything else that you want to make sure we get out there?

Taylor Wolverton:

rn but you will get... It's a:

Radon Stancil:

All right. Very good. You got anything else, Murs?

Murs Tariq:

bout a client that received a:

Taylor Wolverton:

Okay. One other thing that I thought of... Sorry.

Radon Stancil:

Yeah, no, I was going to say before we close, is there anything else?

Taylor Wolverton:

the client about last year in:

If you're turning 65 in 2023 or in 2024, make sure your tax repair has your correct date of birth on file and make sure you're getting the additional standard deductions so you're not overpaying in taxes unnecessarily again.

Radon Stancil:

Yeah. Excellent.

Taylor Wolverton:

There you go.

Radon Stancil:

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