Carina and Martin discuss eye contact. The hand shake is important, but how important are your eyes. Eye contact is a non verbal conversation. And here in the western world, it has huge impact on our social and emotional behaviour.
The episode (7 minutes) was recorded at 0900 Central European Time, on October 13, 2022, with Ringr app.. Martin did the editing and post-production with the podcast maker, Alitu. The transcript is generated by Alitu.
Transcripts
Speaker A:
Welcome to Presentation Skills Q and A. I am Martin Lindeskog.
Speaker A:
Hi, Karina.
Speaker B:
Hi, Martin.
Speaker B:
For your eyes only.
Speaker A:
Well and you don't see my eyes?
Speaker B:
No, I don't but when you're speaking yes, I really can see your eyes
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because if you connect with your voice and your eyes, I can see that you are a bit happy
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that we are going to speak a little bit today it sounds like that great.
Speaker A:
Yeah, I see your eyes also in the way because I have something hanging here on
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the wall like microphones, like a decoration and I got from you as a gift some time ago,
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red microphones, like a decoration do you remember them?
Speaker B:
Yes, I remember so then I think.
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About you and see your smile and so on and you had beautiful singular and where is
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that from? It's a tune, right?
Speaker B:
Yes, soundtrack.
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It's a soundtrack.
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China Eastern soundtrack for your eyes only james Bond.
Speaker A:
James Bond.
Speaker B:
I won't sing the theme james Bond.
Speaker A:
I will not but it's funny with the language we are talking in English speaking in
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English.
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Knowing Swedish sort of yeah and it's funny we
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do a movie titles like in a Deadly Eyesight or you could say an angle it's the translation
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deadly killing Swedish yes.
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And in English it's a bit different.
Speaker B:
In a way and it was some years ago but this is our theme for this episode.
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Shall we say we talked about the handshake last time but how important are your eyes when
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you meet another person? It's important in our culture but it could be
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different how do you feel about this with eye contact?
Speaker A:
Yeah. I have a fear how is it based and so on but I wonder sometimes if you can't
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see why somebody's not looking into your eyes when you're talking.
Speaker A:
Like when you're presenting or greeting but that could be for different reasons you could
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be shy something maybe eyesight it could be something else interesting but I often do a
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notice about that then it's of course when you say when you bow and you shake hands again.
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The multitasking.
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What do you do?
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So maybe at that moment exactly.
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Maybe you don't look so much at the other part
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concentrate on the handshake, I'm thinking Mr.
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Bean there you concentrate.
Speaker B:
On the handshake rather than the eyes.
Speaker A:
Yes, but I tried to see giving.
Speaker B:
Attention also yeah, because I contact you can say it's a nonverbal
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combination between people and some people have problems with the eye contact yeah how do
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you think about that?
Speaker A:
Yeah, as I said, I have this theory that if that would be the case, I'm wondering
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what could the reasons for that? Of course you could ask but you could also ask
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in other ways and see if something coming into that because it's both philosophically and you
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could say also in literature to another where you see somebody's eyes and you could see the
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soul and you see some reflection there.
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But then you have to base it on other things.
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Also in other cultures, other ways you're greeting, you could give hugs, you could
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really look into vice sometimes maybe you have what's the distance when it's getting
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uncomfortable.
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For example, you have it children isn't that
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the children's play be quiet and look into your eyes and see until somebody start
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laughing or something like that.
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There could be all kind of things to think
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about that and then you have in other cultures and countries.
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We have now updated the bio description of the podcast.
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Thank you very much.
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Karina here doing that.
Speaker A:
So for example, I remember when you're greeting with somebody from Asia, then of
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course now in the audience, please tell us how we are doing.
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But then if you have a business card then and see what title is it and how much should you
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bow for that person in Japan, for example?
Speaker B:
Exactly.
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Then it could be hard to watch and look at the same time.
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And it has different how do you say in other cultures it's polite to not have eye
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contact.
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But I think here in our Western world when we
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are talking and connecting this with a handshake, our eyes also gives the expression
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that when you look into the other part that you are honest and have sincere intentions and
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you see the other person.
Speaker B:
And you and I, we want questions from our
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audience in this topic, isn't it so?
Speaker A:
Yeah, that's correct.
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Please reach out to us.
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So where do they send the questions?
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That's great.
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Speaker B:
Thank you.
Speaker B:
I think we will come back to this topic.
Speaker A:
Yeah, Google.
Speaker B:
But for now I wish you a pleasant week and hear you next week.