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"Emotions are energy in motion, right? And energy is information. So these emotions are designed to inform us about our environment, about our experience, but we're not using that information," says Kelley Erickson, who joins the Quantum Biology Collective podcast to explore the intricate connection between our circadian rhythms, emotions, and consciousness.

In this enlightening episode, Kelley shares her personal journey of healing from PTSD and cPTSD, revealing how implementing circadian-aligned practices led to profound changes in her mental and emotional well-being. She delves into the science behind our circadian timing system and its relationship with our stress management system, explaining how sunlight exposure at specific times can reset our internal clocks and improve mood regulation.

Kelley also discusses the crucial distinction between emotions and feelings, and how understanding this difference can lead to better nervous system regulation and personal growth. She explores the concept of heart-brain coherence and its impact on our relationships and overall well-being.

Tune in to today's episode to discover how aligning with natural cycles can regulate your nervous system on an emotional level, and learn about the fascinating connection between consciousness, light, and love. Kelley's insights offer a unique perspective on personal transformation and the collective shift in human consciousness we're currently experiencing.

Key Takeaways

1. Harness the power of sunlight to regulate your emotional landscape and nervous system. Spend time outdoors daily, especially in the morning, to reset your circadian rhythm and improve overall well-being.

2. Practice distinguishing between emotions and feelings. Recognize that emotions are immediate, instinctual responses, while feelings are the meanings we assign to those emotions. This awareness can help break cycles of negative self-talk and nervous system dysregulation.

3. Incorporate heart-brain coherence techniques, such as using the HeartMath Institute app, to create a more balanced electromagnetic field. This can positively impact your relationships and overall sense of well-being.

4. Explore nature as a tool for nervous system regulation and connection to the quantum field. Activities like forest bathing, grounding, and walking meditation can provide numerous benefits for physical and mental health.

5. Cultivate a personal practice that aligns with your values and helps you maintain a stable, loving frequency. This will enable you to be a source of support for others during times of societal change and personal transformation.

Memorable Quotes

"When we have shame, it robs us of our personal authority. It robs us of our own personal power."

"Emotions and our experience of time are in a marriage together. They're intimately linked up and we know that time and space are constructs of perception."

"Nature, of course, is like our original home. It is the place where we evolved, and so it's no surprise that when we go out into nature, there are all kinds of benefits that we can receive."

Resources Mentioned

Power vs. Force: The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior by David Dawkins - https://amzn.to/40xW5js

HeartMath Institute: https://www.heartmath.org/

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): https://www.aa.org/

Connect with Kelley

Join the Metta Balance Network: https://kelley-erickson.mykajabi.com/offers/WBHea7G5/checkout

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelleycroff/

QBC Resources

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directory@quantumbiologycollective.org hi, Kelly

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Erickson. Welcome back to the QVC podcast. It is

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so good to see you again.

Kelly Erickson: 00:04:47

Yes, good to see you as well, Meredith. Thank you

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for having me back.

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Oh, it's such a pleasure. I love following your

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journey. You do such a nice job of sharing on

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Instagram. You know, I think it's a real gift for

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people who are able to communicate that way

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because it reaches so many people. And you do,

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like, a really beautiful job.

Kelly Erickson: 00:05:08

Thank you very much.

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I love that. All right, so you have, like, a

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really incredible kind of healing story that is,

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as with everybody, ongoing. So let's start with

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the circadian piece and tell us sort of how you

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came to that and just a high level explanation of

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why it matters so, so much.

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Sure. So when I began this journey, I had just

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gotten sober. I was trying to help my son with

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his health stuff, but I also had my own health

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issues. I had PTSD and cptsd. And so through the

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process of trying to get him back to a state of

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wellness, I also was working on myself and

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applied anything that I asked him to do. So we

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came across the quantum community and we were

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told about the ketogenic diet and sunlight. And

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so we began to implement it. And I saw rapid

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changes, not just in my son, but in myself as

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well. I really was just hoping to lose weight.

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Like that's what my goal was. I had no idea that

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what I was doing was going to have such a

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profound impact on me. I had nightmares. I had

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significant anxiety, depression, ruminating

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thoughts, intrusive thoughts. And so all of this

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began to shift, really what I felt really rapidly

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because I was over 40 years old and I had

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experienced this most of my life. So when I

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started to feel these changes, I wanted to know

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exactly what was going on. So I began to study. I

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followed some really important people on

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Instagram and in the quantum community and just

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began to absorb as much as I could. And I learned

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some really important things, things about our

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circadian timing system and how it's in

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relationship to our stress management system and

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our energy management system. So our circadian

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timing system consists of a master clock inside

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of our brain, and it's called the suprachiasmatic

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nucleus. And then we have these little peripheral

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clocks all throughout the body, and they need to

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be in sync with each other, in relationship with

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each other to communicate about time within the

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body. And this tells our hormones and, you know,

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all these different processes throughout the body

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what time of day they should be functioning. And

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so when we use sunlight and really key specific

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times of sunlight, we can help reset this system.

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And so immediately I saw improvements in my three

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sleep, improvements in my mood, but also because

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the. The circadian timing system is in

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relationship with the stress management system, I

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was also better able to regulate my moods and my

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emotions. My. I want to be careful how I say this

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because I don't want to give the wrong idea, but

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I just. I began to feel like a different person.

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And. And so through this, you know, the studying

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that I did, I discovered there's a lot taking

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place inside the body that requires light as a

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primary signal in order for it to function

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optimally.

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Okay, tell us. Tell us a little more about what

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you found.

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Yeah, so, you know, when we. So my history, like

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I said, was PTSD and cptsd. And when we have a

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history of trauma, we. We know, we call it

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stress. Right? We have a massive amount of

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stress, and stress dysregulates the entire

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system. But more specifically, emotions

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dysregulate the entire system because we don't

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have. We're not really taught how to bring

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awareness to our emotions. We're not really

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taught about how our perception plays into our

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emotions or can kind of keep our emotions from

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being processed. And so when we don't understand,

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process primary emotions, or what I call core

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emotions, which are anger, shame, and fear, then

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we begin to navigate the world from our space of

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perception, or our feelings rather than our

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emotions. And our emotions and feelings are very

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different from each other. Feelings are emotions

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rather are. They're primal, they're instinctual,

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they arise immediately. And feelings are the

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meaning that we give to the emotions. Most people

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live in the state of feeling and their perception

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of what's going on, which keeps triggering the

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emotional response. And so this leads us to the

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nervous system and how we view the nervous system

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through the polyvagal theory. So the polyvagal

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theory tells us that we have three primary states

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of nervous system activation. So we have the

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fight response, we have the flight response, we

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have the freeze response. And then kind of

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collapse or fawn are in there as well. And so the

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fight response is associated with anger. That's

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the primary emotion that drives that response.

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Then we have fear, which drives the flight

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response, and we have freeze, which drives or

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shame, which drives the freeze response. And we

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have problems with nervous system regulation

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because we don't know how to navigate those three

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primary emotions. And so understanding that these

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emotions are core emotions. And emotions are

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energy in motion, right? And energy is

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information. So these emotions are designed to

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inform us about our environment, about our

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experience, but we're not using that information.

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We're living in a space of feeling, and that's

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perception. And our perception is developed from,

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you know, beginning stages of life. And it's

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largely personality driven. It has a lot to do

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with our unique experiences. And so we disconnect

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from emotions and we live primarily in feelings.

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And this, this creates a disconnect between the

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mind and the body because we need to understand

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where things are coming from and how our nervous

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system is becoming dysregulated. But these three

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primary emotions of anger, shame and fear, it's

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also what we call the ego, because the ego is

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this protective mechanism that is designed to

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keep us safe when we're navigating the world. But

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if we're stuck in these three primary emotions,

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we're essentially stuck in the ego. And this kind

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of takes us into the world of consciousness. And

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when we look at consciousness through David

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Hawkins scale of consciousness, right at the

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bottom of the scale we see shame. And there, you

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know, and so that's the freeze response again.

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And so if, you know, when we go out seeking a

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healing journey, there are so many places where

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we, we get kind of hung up. So like the first

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place people usually seek healing is through

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food. That's the most obvious, right? And then

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they'll see some improvements with changing their

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nutrition. And then maybe they add exercise. And

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from exercise they might, you know, add a little

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bit of meditation or a little bit of this. But

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still they're stuck. And what I get a lot of

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clients saying is that they feel like they lack

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purpose or that they're disconnected from their

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selves, but they are seemingly normal, everyday

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people. They can, you know, have jobs and do all

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of these things, but they're still very

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disconnected. And when I ask them about their

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emotional states or their primary nervous system

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states, they have a very difficult time

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identifying which states they live in and which

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emotions that they're primarily experiencing. And

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so we begin to use language as a tool to inform

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us about what we're experiencing. And I think

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there's a lot of language can be a tool or a

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weapon. And so developing discernment within

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language can be really Helpful in understanding

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not just what's happening with inside of us, but

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also what we're experiencing in the external

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world. And so shame. You know, shame is this

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really. This kind of takes us back to our last

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podcast together. Sorry if I am jumping around a

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little bit, but I was really wanting to explain

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this for anyone who may have listened to our last

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podcast together, because I really. I messed it

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up. I was on the verge of tears the entire time.

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I was so worried about getting all of the details

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right, and I didn't want to mess things up. And

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it's this kind of perfectionistic desire to

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control my image and kind of feeling like an

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imposter. And when we got off that call, I wanted

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to quit everything. I was like, that's it. I'm

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never showing my face again. I can't do this. I

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don't belong here. And it took me a couple of

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weeks to really understand what was happening.

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And I was actually listening to a podcast on

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homeschooling, and it occurred to me what was

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happening. So I view you as an authority in the

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field of quantum biology, and I didn't. I mean, I

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viewed myself as an authority within my own

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framework. But when I was coming to do the

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podcast with you, authority to authority, that

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kind of. It felt like confrontation in my nervous

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system. So I went into freeze mode and I could

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not think. Like, I just couldn't recall anything.

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I was. I was so confused. And so this led me back

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to the work I'd already been doing on

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consciousness. And I went back to David Hawkins

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book and where he discussed shame. And I was

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like, oh, that's what it was. I was experiencing

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shame in that moment because I viewed you as an

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authority. And when we have shame, it robs us of.

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Of our personal authority. It robs us of our own

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personal power. And I was like, oh, my gosh, this

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is what's happening. I was triggering my own

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shame based on my perceptions, based upon a

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narrative that I had developed early in childhood

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about my own self worth. And I was like, phew.

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Now. Oh, my goodness. It was so, you know, the

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universe, I think, gives us exactly what we need,

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exactly when we need it, but it's what we do with

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it that makes or breaks us. And so I could have

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gone into a hole and deleted my Instagram profile

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and never did the work again and never showed my

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face, but instead I was like, okay, I can do this

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now that I know what I'm working with. And even

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right now, my face is turning a little bit red.

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And that kind of indicates that I'm experiencing

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a little bit of shame, but I'm not afraid of it

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anymore. And because I can identify it and I know

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exactly what's happening, it doesn't overwhelm me

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in the same way that it did a year ago when we

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had that initial podcast. So then through, you

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know, all of the work and my studies on quantum

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biology and their circadian timing system, what I

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then discovered is that emotions and our

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experience of time are like in a marriage

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together. They're intimately linked up and we

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know, or you know, I, I mean, I think it's

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definitive that time and space are constructs of

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perception. They don't like reality isn't

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actually dependent upon them. And our mind is

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what creates time in order for us to make sense

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of the world. And when we have these emotional

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experiences, extremely overwhelming emotional

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experiences that we don't process, where we

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experience anger, shame, and fear, what we're

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doing is we're altering our perception of. Of

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time. And it's not just our perception of time,

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but it's actually we're messing with our timing

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mechanisms within the body. Because, like I said,

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that stress management system and the circadian

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timing system are in this bi directional

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relationship with each other. And so it's like,

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oh, my gosh, of course. It's all connected. It's

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all wanted.

Meredith Oke: 00:20:59

Oh, wow.

Kelly Erickson: 00:21:01

Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:21:02

And then we come right back, right back to the.

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To the circadian piece and how intentionally

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living within the natural cycles of that is

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regulating our nervous system on an emotional

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level.

Kelly Erickson: 00:21:15

Yes, Kelly.

Meredith Oke: 00:21:20

Wow. I love it. And I also want to acknowledge

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you and thank you for sharing about your

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emotional experience and that we, we communicated

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briefly about it in messages. But that is like,

Meredith Oke: 00:21:38

you know, first of all, thank you for being

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vulnerable enough and brave enough to share what

Meredith Oke: 00:21:42

your experience was and, and to keep going, you

Meredith Oke: 00:21:49

know, and it's just. It's funny. Like, there's a

Meredith Oke: 00:21:51

few things I want to say, right? It's like, it in

Meredith Oke: 00:21:54

my mind, I'm like, I'm just like a lady

Meredith Oke: 00:21:57

interviewing people, and I'm excited to hear

Meredith Oke: 00:22:00

people's stories, but I have had that feedback

Meredith Oke: 00:22:04

multiple times that people feel very nervous. And

Meredith Oke: 00:22:10

so I even. I had invited someone on the podcast

Meredith Oke: 00:22:12

and she didn't write back right away. And I was

Meredith Oke: 00:22:14

like, and I thought of you and I wrote her again.

Meredith Oke: 00:22:18

And I was like, I'm just really excited to hear

Meredith Oke: 00:22:21

your story. And here's what I'm thinking. We're

Meredith Oke: 00:22:23

going to talk about. It's just going to be fun,

Meredith Oke: 00:22:25

you know, and she Was like, oh, okay, thanks. I

Meredith Oke: 00:22:27

was really scared to book it.

Kelly Erickson: 00:22:30

Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:22:32

And. And I have the same. I have the same thing

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too. I went on a bunch of podcasts a couple years

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ago, and I wasn't planning to. I had to step in

Meredith Oke: 00:22:41

because I was, like, planning for someone else.

Meredith Oke: 00:22:42

They'd been booked and I was kind of planning for

Meredith Oke: 00:22:44

someone else to do it. So I did it. And I had

Meredith Oke: 00:22:46

that exact, like, every single time. I was like,

Meredith Oke: 00:22:48

oh, my God, what am I doing? I have no business

Meredith Oke: 00:22:51

doing. Yeah. And yeah, I often have people circle

Meredith Oke: 00:22:56

back and be like, I forgot to say this or I

Meredith Oke: 00:22:58

didn't say that. So it's interesting because I do

Meredith Oke: 00:23:01

think that this platform, the platform of

Meredith Oke: 00:23:04

podcasting, which is available to anybody if, you

Meredith Oke: 00:23:07

know, you and Lauren have a beautiful podcast

Meredith Oke: 00:23:10

going now. Like, it really is a personal growth

Meredith Oke: 00:23:13

opportunity in a way that I did not see coming.

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:17

Yes, it really is. And to look back at our. The

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:21

first episode that Lauren and I recorded together

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:24

versus this last episode that we just recorded

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:28

with Morley Robbins, it's just a world of

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:32

difference. And it's only been a year's time. I

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:36

mean, granted, I am someone who does a lot of

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:39

personal growth, you know, outside of these

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:42

things, but you do. You are confronted with parts

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:46

of yourself that maybe you don't get to

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:48

experience in your regular day to day

Kelly Erickson: 00:23:52

interactions. So. Yeah. Yeah. Vulnerable.

Meredith Oke: 00:23:56

Yeah. And yeah. The authority piece, the being in

Meredith Oke: 00:24:00

the spotlight piece, there's so many different

Meredith Oke: 00:24:04

pieces to it. Okay, so let's circle back to the

Meredith Oke: 00:24:09

circadian and the emotions. So I think this is

Meredith Oke: 00:24:15

really interesting, the difference between

Meredith Oke: 00:24:16

emotions and feelings. So if, if I'm walking and

Meredith Oke: 00:24:21

I realize, like, I'm at the edge of a cliff and

Meredith Oke: 00:24:23

I'm like. And I have that, like, rush of panic

Meredith Oke: 00:24:28

that I'm gonna fall off the edge of the cliff,

Meredith Oke: 00:24:29

and I step back. That's an emotion.

Kelly Erickson: 00:24:31

Yes, that's.

Meredith Oke: 00:24:32

And then, okay, so that's fear. And then if I

Meredith Oke: 00:24:35

start thinking like, oh, my God, Meredith, I

Meredith Oke: 00:24:38

can't believe you'd be so stupid as to walk near

Meredith Oke: 00:24:40

the edge of a cliff. And what, am I gonna die?

Meredith Oke: 00:24:42

And then if I die, what's gonna happen to my,

Meredith Oke: 00:24:44

like, those that. That have gone into feelings.

Kelly Erickson: 00:24:47

Yes. Yes.

Meredith Oke: 00:24:48

Okay.

Kelly Erickson: 00:24:48

Yes. And a lot of people, because they don't

Kelly Erickson: 00:24:51

recognize the difference between the two, they

Kelly Erickson: 00:24:55

will perpetuate the emotion. That feeling of fear

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:00

with the narrative or that self talk that they

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:04

keep doing with reliving. Reliving the feelings.

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:08

So, like, keep saying to yourself, I'm so stupid,

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:12

I can't believe I did that. And every time you do

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:15

that, you're re triggering that fear response.

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:19

And so your nervous system is just responding

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:23

physiologically over and over and over again. And

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:27

so a lot of the work that I do with clients is we

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:31

start by mapping the nervous system. I have them

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:34

write down several times a day their primary

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:37

emotions, their primary behaviors, and their

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:39

primary symptoms. And then we go back and we see

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:42

what emotions, you know, I mean, I can look at it

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:45

and see what emotions they're experiencing on a

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:48

pretty regular basis. And then we dive into that

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:53

narrative and where it was developed as a child.

Kelly Erickson: 00:25:56

Like, where did you learn that you were unworthy

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:01

or unlovable or whatever it is? Right. And just,

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:08

you know, we know from the observer effect, just

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:11

that process of observation begins to shift

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:15

things pretty massively. And then it's the

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:19

healing spiral. We're given opportunities to

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:22

revisit each, you know, each emotion over and

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:26

over again with a new level of awareness. And

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:29

each time you bring a new level of awareness,

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:32

you're observing it differently and you're

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:34

shifting it again. And so we just keep repeating

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:38

this pattern over and over again. And what we're

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:42

doing is we're unburdening the heart. So we know

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:46

from the HeartMath Institute, right, that there

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:49

is heart brain coherence. And when they are out

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:53

of sync, primarily due to, you know, these

Kelly Erickson: 00:26:58

overwhelming, unprocessed emotions, we have a

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:04

very chaotic toroidal field. And this toroidal

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:09

field informs our relationship to other people.

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:15

And so this is where we can get into, like,

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:18

attachment wounds. And if you think about what is

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:23

in what information is being sent out from your

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:30

heart in that electromagnetic field that extends

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:34

up to what, 12, 15ft from your body, what kind of

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:38

information are you sending out to the people

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:42

you're in relationship to? Is it one of fear? Is

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:46

it one of anger? Is it one of shame? And then

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:49

what is it attracting back to you in

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:52

relationships? And so when I look at attachment

Kelly Erickson: 00:27:56

wounds or attachment theory, that's really how I

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:00

view it is from that heart brain coherence kind

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:04

of field of information that we know about.

Meredith Oke: 00:28:10

So cool. So it's like the. There's like a chaos

Meredith Oke: 00:28:16

in our frequency, and that is what other people

Meredith Oke: 00:28:21

are sensing.

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:22

Yes. And then we're responding to theirs. Right?

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:25

And so it's being sent out and then coming back

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:29

to us. So, you know, it's this constant field of

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:33

information informing our perception and our

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:38

experience of where we sit within the world or

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:41

within relationship to others. And so when we can

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:45

work on Heart, brain coherence through

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:48

unburdening some of these emotions and then using

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:52

things like the HeartMath Institute app, and, you

Kelly Erickson: 00:28:55

know, you can use that. You create this coherent

Kelly Erickson: 00:29:00

field of information that goes out. You are

Kelly Erickson: 00:29:04

operating from a space of love, and then you are

Kelly Erickson: 00:29:09

informing your relationship to other people of

Kelly Erickson: 00:29:12

love, and it begins to balance out that

Kelly Erickson: 00:29:18

electromagnetic signal and feedback system that

Kelly Erickson: 00:29:22

you're getting when you're in relationship to

Kelly Erickson: 00:29:24

other people.

Meredith Oke: 00:29:27

So. Interesting.

Kelly Erickson: 00:29:28

Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:29:29

And that would probably affect, like, who you're.

Meredith Oke: 00:29:33

Who you choose to be around. I mean, I remember,

Meredith Oke: 00:29:36

you know, so we have a lot of common. A lot of

Meredith Oke: 00:29:39

things in common on our journey. And my husband,

Meredith Oke: 00:29:45

he said something to me one time. It was

Meredith Oke: 00:29:47

something. He's like, why do you always have to

Meredith Oke: 00:29:49

have, like, one totally crazy friend? And I was

Meredith Oke: 00:29:55

like, I don't know, but I always did. I was just

Meredith Oke: 00:29:58

somehow always attracted to an agent of chaos

Meredith Oke: 00:30:01

that I had to have. And there were other people,

Meredith Oke: 00:30:04

and they seemed who I could be friends with, but

Meredith Oke: 00:30:06

they seemed boring. And as I healed, I was like,

Meredith Oke: 00:30:11

oh, they're not boring. They're just not chaotic.

Kelly Erickson: 00:30:14

Right, right.

Meredith Oke: 00:30:15

And it totally shifted. And I no longer have any

Meredith Oke: 00:30:21

agents of chaos by choice. There's a few I'm

Meredith Oke: 00:30:24

related to, but, yeah, it does. So that's like a

Meredith Oke: 00:30:29

super interesting lens to, like, understand that

Meredith Oke: 00:30:32

behavior.

Kelly Erickson: 00:30:32

Yeah, yeah. And it changes our relationship with

Kelly Erickson: 00:30:36

others in. In a more profound way as well. So

Kelly Erickson: 00:30:41

when we look at these emotions from David

Kelly Erickson: 00:30:44

Hawkins, scale of Consciousness, anger, shame,

Kelly Erickson: 00:30:48

and fear sit below. Well, fear and shame really

Kelly Erickson: 00:30:52

sit below what is called the frequency of truth.

Kelly Erickson: 00:30:56

And it's when we begin to rise above those

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:00

frequencies that we begin to seek truth. And it's

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:04

truth in all manners. And love is the ultimate

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:10

truth frequency, in my opinion. And so as we

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:16

navigate up and we begin, we, you know, unburden

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:20

the heart with each layer. We get closer and

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:23

closer to the truth or to the frequency of love.

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:27

And I believe that love, in the way that we

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:31

understand it from society's perspective, it's

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:36

really. It's. We're given the perception that

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:41

love is very transactional. It's, I'm giving you

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:45

love, I'm doing this out of love, et cetera. But

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:49

I believe from my own personal experience that

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:53

when we are the frequency of love, there is. It's

Kelly Erickson: 00:31:58

not transactional at all. And we begin to see

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:02

things like judgment or resentment or, you know,

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:08

these other kind of filters through which we

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:12

experience other humans, they begin to dissolve.

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:15

And we can see other people through a much more

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:25

unfiltered perception, I guess. So resentment and

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:29

judgment would be filters that you are

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:32

experiencing other people through. And so love,

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:37

to me is much more about a frequency that we

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:40

operate from. And then we begin to feed our

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:47

relationships with this frequency, and it can

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:52

help other people begin to balance out their

Kelly Erickson: 00:32:57

instability, their chaos. It can inform their

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:03

field of information. You know, we know through

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:07

nervous system regulation work that we can help

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:10

others regulate their nervous system. It's called

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:12

co regulation. Right. And that's what a mother

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:15

does with her child when she picks up her baby

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:18

after it's hurt and it's hurt itself. We can do

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:23

that also from the frequency of love. And we

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:26

begin to bring stability into all of our

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:29

relationships. Now, this doesn't mean we control

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:33

other people and it's automatically going to fix

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:36

everything about them, but it does. It does

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:40

provide a platform of stability and coherence

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:44

rather than chaos and, you know, further

Kelly Erickson: 00:33:49

instability.

Meredith Oke: 00:33:52

Yes. Beautiful. And then we, you know, if we are

Meredith Oke: 00:33:58

creating that field or contributing to that field

Meredith Oke: 00:34:01

of love and that becomes dominant, then we can

Meredith Oke: 00:34:07

help to regulate others who. I mean, I guess you

Meredith Oke: 00:34:12

probably have to be open to it to a certain

Meredith Oke: 00:34:13

extent. Right. But just by being in that. And I'm

Meredith Oke: 00:34:16

thinking now of like, recovery groups, you know,

Meredith Oke: 00:34:19

places like Alcoholics Anonymous, where you have

Meredith Oke: 00:34:22

that, like, container of acceptance. And it's so

Meredith Oke: 00:34:28

not trans. The opposite of transactional. Right.

Meredith Oke: 00:34:30

Is really vibrating at a frequency of love. And

Meredith Oke: 00:34:33

someone comes in who's an absolute at the bottom

Meredith Oke: 00:34:36

as. As they say, and they are, at least for the

Meredith Oke: 00:34:40

duration of the time that they're in that space,

Meredith Oke: 00:34:43

they. They can become regulated. And you see how

Meredith Oke: 00:34:45

it's that. That frequency of love.

Kelly Erickson: 00:34:49

Yes. A hundred percent. And it's interesting you

Kelly Erickson: 00:34:51

brought up the AA groups because in David Hawkins

Kelly Erickson: 00:34:55

book, when he's talking about consciousness

Kelly Erickson: 00:34:58

itself. Yeah, it's. Alcoholics Anonymous is one

Kelly Erickson: 00:35:03

of the, you know, few or many groups that

Kelly Erickson: 00:35:08

vibrates at the frequency of truth. And it is

Kelly Erickson: 00:35:12

that unconditional love, that lack of judgment

Kelly Erickson: 00:35:17

that individuals bring into the room and help

Kelly Erickson: 00:35:21

others recover.

Meredith Oke: 00:35:24

That's right. Yeah. I forgot. He has a beautiful

Meredith Oke: 00:35:27

section on that.

Kelly Erickson: 00:35:29

Yep.

Meredith Oke: 00:35:30

Yeah. You know, he really understood that at a

Meredith Oke: 00:35:33

deep level. He was amazing.

Kelly Erickson: 00:35:34

Yeah. Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:35:35

I have his book by my bed. Just. I open it

Meredith Oke: 00:35:39

randomly every couple of days. Yeah, beautiful.

Kelly Erickson: 00:35:43

Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:35:44

Okay, so let's. Let's bring it back to. Okay.

Meredith Oke: 00:35:48

We've talked about the difference between

Meredith Oke: 00:35:50

emotions and feelings and sort of stabilizing our

Meredith Oke: 00:35:57

toroidal field, so to speak, by being regulated

Meredith Oke: 00:36:02

in our nervous system and not constantly pinging

Meredith Oke: 00:36:04

around between the feelings and the emotions. And

Meredith Oke: 00:36:10

let's explore a little more the role that nature

Meredith Oke: 00:36:15

and photons and darkness play in that in this

Meredith Oke: 00:36:20

landscape.

Kelly Erickson: 00:36:21

Yeah. So nature, of course, is like our original

Kelly Erickson: 00:36:29

home. It is the place where, you know, we

Kelly Erickson: 00:36:36

evolved, you know, and so it's no surprise that

Kelly Erickson: 00:36:41

when we go out into nature, there are all kinds

Kelly Erickson: 00:36:44

of benefits that we can receive. So sunlight is

Kelly Erickson: 00:36:50

one of them. We get photons of sunlight. And

Kelly Erickson: 00:36:54

there's so much that we could talk about with

Kelly Erickson: 00:36:58

sunlight specifically and helping it to regulate

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:01

your emotional landscape or your nervous system

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:06

or your mitochondria. There's just so many

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:10

benefits to sunlight. I think it's an equilibrium

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:14

frequency and it really does help bring us back

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:17

into balance in so many different ways. You can

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:23

go out into the woods and receive phytonicides

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:28

from pine trees, and these are really beneficial

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:32

for regulating the nervous system. You can go out

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:36

and be around a waterfall or running water and

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:40

get negative ions. Or even in after a

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:46

thunderstorm, there's negative ions in the air

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:50

that are extremely beneficial. You can put your

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:53

feet to the bare earth and receive electrons from

Kelly Erickson: 00:37:57

the earth that help to regulate your nervous

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:00

system and bring balance back in. Yeah, but also,

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:06

like when we're out in nature, our field, our

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:12

connection to the quantum field is uninterrupted.

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:17

And so I think when we go out into nature and we

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:22

don't have the headphones on or the cell phone on

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:25

our pocket, in our pocket, kind of sending these

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:28

altered frequencies, I think this is the ultimate

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:32

opportunity for connection to the quantum field

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:35

and where so many people, including myself, get

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:38

our, our downloads or these like, aha moments, or

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:43

some people might call them spiritual moments.

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:45

And I think that's because we. There's no

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:48

interference between us and the quantum field.

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:52

And we have a very regulated nervous system. So I

Kelly Erickson: 00:38:57

take a walk every single day, and that's where I

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:00

get these, you know, insights into things are

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:04

like my next idea for what I'm gonna do. And, you

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:07

know, it just appears to come out of nowhere, but

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:11

it's. It's not. You know, walking is like moving

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:14

meditation. All of these benefits that we can get

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:18

from being outside listening to the birds and,

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:22

you know, the, the, the horizon has benefits.

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:26

Like watching the horizon walking down a straight

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:30

and narrow road has benefits for your perception.

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:33

I mean, you really can't beat time outside in any

Kelly Erickson: 00:39:38

way.

Meredith Oke: 00:39:40

Wow. So much there and, and, and the moving

Meredith Oke: 00:39:44

around. You're remind. You're reminding me. I

Meredith Oke: 00:39:48

watched this movie, I think, last winter. It's,

Meredith Oke: 00:39:51

it's old. It's on YouTube. You can find it. It's

Meredith Oke: 00:39:54

called Copenhagen, and it's about Niels Bohr. And

Meredith Oke: 00:39:59

I forget all. Anyway, it's all these, like, early

Meredith Oke: 00:40:02

pioneers of quantum physics. And they have this.

Meredith Oke: 00:40:06

They're discussing all of the big breakthroughs

Meredith Oke: 00:40:11

that they had. And they were like, oh, yeah, I

Meredith Oke: 00:40:13

remember that. We would, like. We'd be around the

Meredith Oke: 00:40:15

table, like, pouring over the formulas, and we

Meredith Oke: 00:40:17

were like, ah, we're never gonna get it. And then

Meredith Oke: 00:40:19

we'd go out for a hike in those Swiss mountains,

Meredith Oke: 00:40:22

and all the breakthroughs would come. And they

Meredith Oke: 00:40:24

told. They were just talking and telling stories,

Meredith Oke: 00:40:26

the characters. But I noticed every time they

Meredith Oke: 00:40:29

talked about when they had a breakthrough is when

Meredith Oke: 00:40:31

they left the work and went skiing or went hiking

Meredith Oke: 00:40:35

or went outside.

Kelly Erickson: 00:40:36

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's not

Kelly Erickson: 00:40:40

surprising. I mean, it really isn't, you know,

Kelly Erickson: 00:40:44

but also, I think a lot of people get

Kelly Erickson: 00:40:46

breakthroughs while they're sleeping. And it's

Kelly Erickson: 00:40:49

the same kind of thing as your brainwave states.

Kelly Erickson: 00:40:54

Right. You are in this deep, kind of meditative

Kelly Erickson: 00:40:58

state. And so that connection to the quantum

Kelly Erickson: 00:41:02

field opens up. And you get these downloads in

Kelly Erickson: 00:41:06

the form of dreams. And, you know.

Meredith Oke: 00:41:11

Yes. Do you have any thoughts on the dreamscape

Meredith Oke: 00:41:16

and have you just personally experienced or

Meredith Oke: 00:41:19

heard, you know, in your travels with other

Meredith Oke: 00:41:22

people. If people's dreams have becoming more

Meredith Oke: 00:41:26

intense lately or more frequent or more colorful?

Kelly Erickson: 00:41:32

I haven't had clients mention anything about

Kelly Erickson: 00:41:36

dreams lately. I know my dreams have been a

Kelly Erickson: 00:41:42

little bit more, like, in intuitive or

Kelly Erickson: 00:41:47

precognitive, but I haven't confirmed that or

Kelly Erickson: 00:41:52

spoken about it with other people. What are your

Kelly Erickson: 00:41:54

thoughts?

Meredith Oke: 00:41:55

Yeah, I've noticed the same. My sample size is me

Meredith Oke: 00:41:59

and my family, so I just wanted to see what else

Meredith Oke: 00:42:03

was going on. But, yes, I have definitely noticed

Meredith Oke: 00:42:08

that.

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:08

Yeah. And would you connect it to what's going on

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:12

with the Schumann residents and the solar flares

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:16

that we're getting?

Meredith Oke: 00:42:18

Possibly.

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:19

Yeah. Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:42:21

Possibly. Yes. Well, so. And I haven't taken the

Meredith Oke: 00:42:25

time to, like, really dig into it, but I do think

Meredith Oke: 00:42:29

there's something.

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:30

Yeah. Yeah. And so that kind of ties us, then,

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:34

back into the consciousness conversation is, you

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:37

know, when you. If you follow any accounts that

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:40

talk about the Schumann resonance and. Or the

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:43

solar flares and how we're getting these

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:46

energetic upgrades. That is what David Hawkins

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:51

referred to in the 80s when, as a collective, we

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:55

just passed over that threshold into truth. And

Kelly Erickson: 00:42:59

that's when people really began seeking, you

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:03

know, truth about medications, truth about food,

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:06

truth about all sorts of things. Right. And so we

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:10

are receiving these energetic upgrades that are

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:14

allowing us to expand our level of consciousness.

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:18

But at the same time, you're going to be called

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:21

to dig through these anger, shame, and fear

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:24

emotions so that you're no longer, you know,

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:29

perpetuating them or hanging on to them so that

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:31

you can experience that expansion. And then when

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:36

people talk about 3D reality, what I think it's

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:41

referring to is anger, shame, and fear. And in

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:45

order to move into this 5D reality or anything

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:49

beyond that is through the processing of these

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:53

emotions and getting ourselves closer to that

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:56

frequency of love. And then when you think about

Kelly Erickson: 00:43:58

love, love and light are synonymous, right? And

Kelly Erickson: 00:44:02

so we're getting all of these light codes, and we

Kelly Erickson: 00:44:04

were expanding our heart, we're expanding our

Kelly Erickson: 00:44:07

awareness. It's all kind of one in the same. Just

Kelly Erickson: 00:44:11

everybody's using a different language to

Kelly Erickson: 00:44:15

describe it, which makes it seem like there's all

Kelly Erickson: 00:44:18

something separate. But I think it's. It's all

Kelly Erickson: 00:44:22

the same.

Meredith Oke: 00:44:24

Hmm. That makes a lot of sense. So when you say.

Meredith Oke: 00:44:29

When you use the words light codes, because I

Meredith Oke: 00:44:33

loved what you said earlier about being

Meredith Oke: 00:44:35

discerning with our language. I think as we move

Meredith Oke: 00:44:39

closer to truth, the discernment piece becomes

Meredith Oke: 00:44:42

really important, just in general. That wasn't my

Meredith Oke: 00:44:45

point, though. Oh, yeah. So the light codes. And

Meredith Oke: 00:44:48

then, okay, so as we, as a collective, move more

Meredith Oke: 00:44:54

towards emitting a frequency of love, shall I

Meredith Oke: 00:45:02

say? And then we're talking about the changes in

Meredith Oke: 00:45:05

the Schumann resonance. We're talking about the

Meredith Oke: 00:45:07

solar flares. I'm working on a talk, and I'm

Meredith Oke: 00:45:10

looking at, like, the Kali Yuga cycles, the Mayan

Meredith Oke: 00:45:16

cycles, the Chinese cosmology cycles, and then as

Meredith Oke: 00:45:19

well as some more, like, material, just history

Meredith Oke: 00:45:22

cycles, economic cycles. And, like, it's been so

Meredith Oke: 00:45:26

interesting. No matter. Like, I started out,

Meredith Oke: 00:45:28

I'll, like, I'll just look at 1 or 2 as to make a

Meredith Oke: 00:45:31

point. And now I'm, like, I've listed, like, nine

Meredith Oke: 00:45:33

of them, and they're all. They all have an

Meredith Oke: 00:45:37

overlap, which is that this moment in time, it's

Meredith Oke: 00:45:41

basically insanely crazy in terms of

Meredith Oke: 00:45:44

transformation, like, no matter which of those

Meredith Oke: 00:45:46

systems you look at.

Kelly Erickson: 00:45:47

Right?

Meredith Oke: 00:45:48

And so now I'm hearing from you, like, even as

Meredith Oke: 00:45:51

another lens through which to view this shift,

Meredith Oke: 00:45:56

and you're talking human resonance, solar flares,

Meredith Oke: 00:46:00

light codes. And is it our consciousness

Meredith Oke: 00:46:03

affecting that? Or. Or is it. How do you see it?

Meredith Oke: 00:46:08

Like, are we driving that? Is it driving us? Is

Meredith Oke: 00:46:10

it a. Is it a symbiotic.

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:13

Interesting. I hadn't really. I guess I kind of

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:17

just Assumed it was affecting us. But when you

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:23

say that, it's like, well, it's all a bi

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:26

directional relationship, so we've got to be

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:29

feeding something back into it. But. Yeah, I

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:33

don't know. That's.

Meredith Oke: 00:46:35

I don't know either. I have no idea. Wow, that's.

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:38

I mean, that's definitely something to consider

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:42

and to apply it to, you know, these other time

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:48

periods in history where there was a lot of

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:50

chaos. You know, as we're expanding and moving

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:53

closer towards love, there is going to be a lot

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:56

of chaos because people have to work through that

Kelly Erickson: 00:46:59

anger, shame and fear. And that means a lot of

Kelly Erickson: 00:47:03

release, a lot of, you know, stirring the pot

Kelly Erickson: 00:47:09

from, you know, the bottom all the way up. And so

Kelly Erickson: 00:47:13

it may look a little ugly for a while, but I

Kelly Erickson: 00:47:17

think we're already beginning to see the shift

Kelly Erickson: 00:47:21

in, you know, the way people are viewing things

Kelly Erickson: 00:47:25

and viewing themselves in relationship to the

Kelly Erickson: 00:47:29

collective.

Meredith Oke: 00:47:31

Yes. Yeah, I think so too. And, and that was.

Meredith Oke: 00:47:36

Yeah, that's definitely a big piece of. It is.

Meredith Oke: 00:47:38

There's, there's like a destabilizing piece to

Meredith Oke: 00:47:44

transformation. And so ideally you want the old

Meredith Oke: 00:47:48

systems that aren't working to give way to the

Meredith Oke: 00:47:51

new ones, but not so fast that we're all buried

Meredith Oke: 00:47:55

in the rubble. Yes.

Kelly Erickson: 00:47:58

Yeah. Yeah. And then the more I understood about

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:01

shame and you know, of course, with the election

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:04

coming up this year or, you know, happening this

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:07

year, and I started to view the political stage

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:11

through the lens of shame and societal

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:15

structures. Anything that ends in ism is based on

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:20

shame. And so it requires us to disown ourselves

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:27

for it to be able to function the way that it

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:31

functions. And the minute that we all see step

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:34

back into our own personal power is the minute

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:37

those systems are no longer valid or operational

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:42

for us. Right. Because that's not how we view

Kelly Erickson: 00:48:46

ourselves anymore.

Meredith Oke: 00:48:48

Yes. That's a beautiful way to describe it. And

Meredith Oke: 00:48:52

that's how it feels to me. And that's how I feel

Meredith Oke: 00:48:54

like I'm seeing it. It's like even the old. Back

Meredith Oke: 00:48:59

to what you're saying about discerning language,

Meredith Oke: 00:49:01

even the language tools that we use, you know,

Meredith Oke: 00:49:04

left, right, this political party, that political

Meredith Oke: 00:49:06

party, like they're becoming almost meaningless.

Meredith Oke: 00:49:09

And it's really about people who want to live in

Meredith Oke: 00:49:14

the truth.

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:14

Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:49:15

And not be controlled.

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:17

Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:49:18

Versus people who are like, no, no, these systems

Meredith Oke: 00:49:20

are better. It's better to have the system

Meredith Oke: 00:49:22

controlling us. That's more where I see the

Meredith Oke: 00:49:25

shift. And it has, you know, red, blue, purple,

Meredith Oke: 00:49:29

up, down, left, right. Like it's those Things

Meredith Oke: 00:49:32

have. Are dissolving and becoming largely

Meredith Oke: 00:49:34

irrelevant.

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:35

Yeah, but it's all part of the process. You know,

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:38

it's not, you know, not judging other people

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:42

where they're at and how maybe they orient

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:47

towards safety, because for them, safety is those

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:51

systems. Right. They're relying on those systems

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:54

to keep them safe. But at some point in their

Kelly Erickson: 00:49:57

journey, they will butt up against those very

Kelly Erickson: 00:50:00

systems and they'll be asked to look within and

Kelly Erickson: 00:50:04

reevaluate and, you know, ask the question, is

Kelly Erickson: 00:50:08

this system really working for me or is it

Kelly Erickson: 00:50:11

working against me? And we're all just at

Kelly Erickson: 00:50:14

different stages of that journey. And, you know,

Kelly Erickson: 00:50:18

I think over the coming generations, I. I just

Kelly Erickson: 00:50:22

don't see these systems being in place anymore.

Meredith Oke: 00:50:27

Yeah, I don't either. And I think the point

Meredith Oke: 00:50:32

you're making is really good. And that was. It's

Meredith Oke: 00:50:34

actually was kind of the point of this talk I'm

Meredith Oke: 00:50:37

going to give is that for those of us who can

Meredith Oke: 00:50:42

orient around the new paradigms, who can feel

Meredith Oke: 00:50:46

safe and grounded in the world, even in the midst

Meredith Oke: 00:50:50

of all this change, I feel like we have some

Meredith Oke: 00:50:55

level of responsibility to show up for the people

Meredith Oke: 00:51:00

you just described who are not there yet, and

Meredith Oke: 00:51:03

it's going to feel really scary, and they're

Meredith Oke: 00:51:04

going to be very disoriented. And especially

Meredith Oke: 00:51:08

people in that space where the systems that they

Meredith Oke: 00:51:11

trusted. And we've all been there, probably

Meredith Oke: 00:51:13

everyone listening to a podcast like this has

Meredith Oke: 00:51:15

been there. Right. That system that we trust us,

Meredith Oke: 00:51:18

that we trusted, has betrayed us.

Kelly Erickson: 00:51:20

Right.

Meredith Oke: 00:51:21

And when you feel that betrayal of the system or

Meredith Oke: 00:51:25

the institution that your whole life you've felt

Meredith Oke: 00:51:28

like you could rely on and you don't have an

Meredith Oke: 00:51:32

alternative, that's a terrifying and scary place

Meredith Oke: 00:51:37

to be. And that's where I feel like we all

Meredith Oke: 00:51:40

collectively have a responsibility to help

Meredith Oke: 00:51:44

navigate that for people.

Kelly Erickson: 00:51:46

Yeah. And I think that's a beautiful point. And,

Kelly Erickson: 00:51:49

and you know, I've been saying this to my clients

Kelly Erickson: 00:51:52

and also in mine and Lauren's podcast. I think. I

Kelly Erickson: 00:51:57

think our souls speak different languages. And so

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:04

different people speak different language. That's

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:10

not a very good way to describe it, but I think

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:13

our souls have their own unique language. And

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:16

each person, when we. When we tap into the

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:20

language of our own soul, that becomes the

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:22

language that we speak. We resonate at. And the

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:26

people who are. Who have souls that speak my

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:30

language will be drawn towards me, and the ones

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:35

that speak your language will be drawn towards

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:37

you. We each are holding a piece of the puzzle,

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:41

like you just said. And so our duty is to take it

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:45

back out there and find the people that speak our

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:48

language so we can spread the message. I mean,

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:51

that sounds very religious or something, but you

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:55

know, to, to help others navigate their own

Kelly Erickson: 00:52:58

experience.

Meredith Oke: 00:53:00

Yes. Yeah, no, absolutely. And it could be, you

Meredith Oke: 00:53:04

know, you and I are doing podcasts, but it could

Meredith Oke: 00:53:06

just be like you're that person in, in your

Meredith Oke: 00:53:09

extended family or in your friend group. Yeah,

Meredith Oke: 00:53:13

that's like, seems kind of okay and, and chill.

Meredith Oke: 00:53:17

And so when someone needs to access that, like, I

Meredith Oke: 00:53:21

remember I heard a man, I think, I'm pretty sure

Meredith Oke: 00:53:24

it was a Christian man. It. But it doesn't

Meredith Oke: 00:53:27

matter. But he was saying that. What did he say?

Meredith Oke: 00:53:31

He said, you know, we have to, basically we have

Meredith Oke: 00:53:35

to have a spiritual practice so that when, when

Meredith Oke: 00:53:41

people need us and they will. We are who we say

Meredith Oke: 00:53:44

we are.

Kelly Erickson: 00:53:44

Yeah, yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:53:48

And that, that always stayed with me. It's, it's

Meredith Oke: 00:53:51

like, you know, when someone reaches out, who are

Meredith Oke: 00:53:57

we?

Kelly Erickson: 00:53:57

Yeah, it's part of, it is also part of the

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:02

nervous system work is understanding your own

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:05

personal values. Because what those emotions,

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:08

when they arise, what they're telling you is what

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:11

you value. They're telling you about your own

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:15

soul's values. And so if you're getting angry

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:20

when someone lies, you value honesty, you value

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:24

integrity, you value transparency, whatever.

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:28

Right. And so that spiritual practice is making

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:33

sure that you are connected to something higher

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:36

than yourself and your soul and so that you are

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:40

operating in alignment with your own personal

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:44

values. Like you said. So when someone comes to

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:47

you, you can, you are in alignment and you're not

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:52

saying one thing and doing another.

Meredith Oke: 00:54:57

Right?

Kelly Erickson: 00:54:58

Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:55:00

So good. This has been so, so interesting, Kelly.

Meredith Oke: 00:55:04

I love it so much. Is there anything like coming

Meredith Oke: 00:55:06

to you that you want to say next or that you

Meredith Oke: 00:55:10

wanted to say that you haven't said?

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:12

No, I don't think so. I just the connection

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:16

between the nervous system and consciousness. And

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:20

then also you can add in the piece of like

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:22

internal family systems model, which is the core

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:26

self energy and the parts that we develop as like

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:29

coping strategies to navigate the world. They're

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:33

all describing the same thing. And so that makes

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:37

the end goal from all three models. The end goal

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:42

is love. So, you know, finding our way back to

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:47

love in whichever way you can begin to do that

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:51

and we can do it in very small ways in our day to

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:55

day life so you don't have to go out and hire

Kelly Erickson: 00:55:57

some coach and have some massive transformation.

Kelly Erickson: 00:56:01

You know, you can do a lot of the work on your

Kelly Erickson: 00:56:03

own at home.

Meredith Oke: 00:56:05

Yeah, it's true. It's in all the, all the little

Meredith Oke: 00:56:08

moments of the day. Although I will say working

Meredith Oke: 00:56:11

with someone is often helpful. So if anyone

Meredith Oke: 00:56:14

resonates, go work with Kelly.

Kelly Erickson: 00:56:16

Yeah, yeah, it definitely can. Yeah, yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:56:21

Yeah. And then just to bring it back to the light

Meredith Oke: 00:56:24

piece before we wrap up, it's like, you know,

Meredith Oke: 00:56:27

I'll use myself as the example. Right. So I did a

Meredith Oke: 00:56:30

lot of, A lot of the work that, you know, you've,

Meredith Oke: 00:56:33

you're describing and I still got sick. And I

Meredith Oke: 00:56:37

think there was a part of me that was judging

Meredith Oke: 00:56:39

myself for that. And it's like, oh, if you've

Meredith Oke: 00:56:41

like mastered your. Mastered your mind and healed

Meredith Oke: 00:56:44

your childhood, like, what do you. Why are you

Meredith Oke: 00:56:46

getting sick? Right. But I was missing the, the

Meredith Oke: 00:56:50

piece where I understood the impact that my

Meredith Oke: 00:56:52

environment was having on me and, and

Meredith Oke: 00:56:54

particularly light. So I added that in and it was

Meredith Oke: 00:56:57

like, ha, ha. But I found over time that it's,

Meredith Oke: 00:57:01

you know, as you were saying at the beginning,

Meredith Oke: 00:57:03

it's like it's a spiral. And so I feel it then,

Meredith Oke: 00:57:09

you know, as I've infused myself with healthy

Meredith Oke: 00:57:15

light over time, that has called me to up level

Meredith Oke: 00:57:18

back in the other ways.

Kelly Erickson: 00:57:20

Yeah.

Meredith Oke: 00:57:20

And then I go back in the light and I'm starting

Meredith Oke: 00:57:22

to hear from people who've been doing this few

Meredith Oke: 00:57:24

years that they're like becoming off the charts

Meredith Oke: 00:57:28

intuitive, borderline psychic. And all of these

Meredith Oke: 00:57:31

things are starting to happen as we, as we

Meredith Oke: 00:57:34

continue continually move through.

Kelly Erickson: 00:57:38

Yeah. Because that love and light are synonymous

Kelly Erickson: 00:57:42

with each other. They're often referred to as one

Kelly Erickson: 00:57:45

and the same throughout ancient texts and

Kelly Erickson: 00:57:49

history. Right. And so it's not surprising that

Kelly Erickson: 00:57:53

going out into the sunlight expands your level of

Kelly Erickson: 00:57:57

consciousness and unburdens the heart to some

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:01

degree and fills you with love, you know? Pretty

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:08

cool. It's pretty cool. It's all just so

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:11

fascinating. It really is. And it's all so

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:15

exciting. And to even have a platform to share

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:18

this kind of information, like, I just never

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:21

thought I. I never imagined this would be my life

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:25

or that I would be sitting here talking to you

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:27

about love and consciousness, light and all of

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:31

these things. It's just, it's really profound. We

Kelly Erickson: 00:58:34

live in a really awesome time.

Meredith Oke: 00:58:38

Yeah, I totally agree. I sometimes, and I was

Meredith Oke: 00:58:42

like working on that presentation and I'm like

Meredith Oke: 00:58:44

making notes about astrology and frequency. I was

Meredith Oke: 00:58:49

at a co working space and the woman next to me, I

Meredith Oke: 00:58:52

saw her glance down at my notes and I was like,

Meredith Oke: 00:58:54

yeah, this is what I'm doing for my job. It's

Meredith Oke: 00:59:00

pretty incredible. And then we have these

Meredith Oke: 00:59:01

platforms to share it. Yeah, no, we. I don't know

Meredith Oke: 00:59:07

what you know. I don't want to use terms that

Meredith Oke: 00:59:14

will activate people in one way or the other, but

Meredith Oke: 00:59:16

however we all ended up here at the same time in

Meredith Oke: 00:59:19

this moment of time is, as you said, deeply

Meredith Oke: 00:59:24

profound.

Kelly Erickson: 00:59:25

Yes. There are no coincidences. I don't believe

Kelly Erickson: 00:59:29

so.

Meredith Oke: 00:59:30

Yeah.

Kelly Erickson: 00:59:31

Well, thank you so much, Meredith. I really

Kelly Erickson: 00:59:34

appreciate it.

Meredith Oke: 00:59:35

Thank you for being here, Kelly. This was

Meredith Oke: 00:59:37

wonderful and we will be doing it again.

Kelly Erickson: 00:59:39

Okay, sounds great.

Meredith Oke: 00:59:42

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Meredith Oke: 00:59:45

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