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Holy Mole, Oaxaca and a Tooth Being Yanked From My Face
Episode 5728th August 2026 • onefjef • Jef Taylor
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The joys of Oaxaca and the horrors of dental anxiety, with some foot fingers, excessive girth and a Rumi poem about teeth along the way.

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We're on the bus going home.

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And I have to get dental surgery in two days.

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Oops.

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This is episode 57 of onefjef

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Hello once again, my friends.

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Hola, mis amigos y amigas.

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I went to Oaxaca last weekend, this past weekend, which is another place in

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Mexico, for those of you who don't know.

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I think may- maybe you pronounce it Wocks Sock Kaah, if that's a ton

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how it's spelled to a lot of people.

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Not to me, of course, but that might make it easier to understand.

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Anyway, I went there this past weekend with a lovely companion named Este.

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We had a wonderful time, but I didn't bring my computer

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or my podcasting equipment.

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Actually, that's a lie.

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I have an interview that I did with Este on the bus back.

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We went to see the biggest tree with the biggest trunk in the world.

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A tule.

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The big girth.

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It was a girth.

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Yeah.

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Over height.

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Yeah.

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It was, uh, the biggest tree trunk in the whole world.

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How was that for you?

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I would've liked to be able to touch the tree, but only one day

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a year may you touch the tree.

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Yeah, the second Monday of- And there's no way I'm going there on that day

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'cause that's gonna be a madhouse.

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Can you imagine if we wait in line to touch a tree?

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Yeah, I very might have been.

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What are we doing?

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Um, then we went to the, uh, Aguas de las- Yerbabuena.

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What are they?

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Si, that one.

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The drive was the big adventure of that whole j- that whole thing.

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The drive was- That was quite a- … rough.

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Yeah, almost thought about throwing up a couple times, um, but did not throw up,

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and you were hungover, so- Yeah, I was

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yeah.

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Un poco

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tequila, mezcal- Mezcal … the night before, so.

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Too much mezcal the, the night before, but it's beautiful out there.

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It is.

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Yerbabuena.

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It is.

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I mean- It's very free … what can we say about it?

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What can you say about- It's nature … yeah.

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Well, it was in a Cor- And it's crafted … it was in a Corona ad, so that's…

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What?

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Doggy.

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See the dog.

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Oh, si.

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Oh, he's just walking down the street.

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Wow, we're driving down the highway in a bus right now, and there's a dog

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just- Oh, my God … walking down the street on the side of the highway.

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Oh, there's people there, though.

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What are they doing?

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I don't see them.

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I think that was an accident.

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Anyway, the dog will be fine.

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You often see dogs just wandering around.

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Mm. Um, what's the prettiest place you've been to in Mexico?

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Ooh No pressure Actually, the pressure.

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Yeah, probably Holbox in Quintana Roo.

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Is that… That's down by Tulum and all that.

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Yeah.

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Si.

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Colebox it's called.

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Holbox.

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What did you like about it?

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It was, it was, uh, beachy?

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It's quiet.

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It's beach, uh, but, um, it's quiet, not crowded, no cars.

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I like that.

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No big, uh- Yeah, I like that

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like that, hotels.

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Yeah.

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It's tiny.

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But there's probably a lot of that seaweed there this year.

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Oh, yeah.

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'Cause they've got real issues- That's a problem in Holbox … this

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year, this year- Yeah, yeah … it's been a nightmare.

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Yeah.

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Huh.

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When did- I wanna go back … when did you go there?

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Mm, like, after COVID, immediately after COVID.

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Oh, okay.

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We went there to celebrate my birthday.

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Holbox.

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Yeah.

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How do you spell that?

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H-O-L-B-O-X.

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Holbox.

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Holbox.

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Exactly what I thought.

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Like a box full of prostitutes.

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That one I got you.

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Si.

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That's where you put all your prostitutes, in the Holbox.

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And then what else?

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You bought about 80 pounds worth of m- mole.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because we love mole.

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Si, pero I can't eat- And Oaxaca- Si … pr- produces good mole.

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S- So if I'm here- The best mole … I need to get mole.

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Si.

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I wish I could eat the- Mole rojo, red mole.

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I wish I could eat the mole, but- Yeah, sorry.

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No … it's okay.

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It's okay.

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Just don't tell me how amazing it is afterwards.

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It is amazing.

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Yeah.

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I thought of a great name for a mole company that Espi does

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not care for, but that's okay.

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And it is Hole Mole.

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Holy Moly.

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No, I, it's, if you, uh, people are, uh, if I play this on, it, everybody will be

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like, "Incredible, Jef." Right, everybody?

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And I'm gonna make a sticker restaurant that will sell stickers and mole.

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You like them.

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New businesses.

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Si, in the same place.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Me and Espi have a long… No, this is not those shoes.

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This is something else.

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Me and Espi have a long-standing d- d- like, a competition as to which c-

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language has the best version of the word.

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Like, uh, Mexican or Spanish is, for puzzle, yeah, English, puzzle.

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In Mexican or Spanish, rompecabezas.

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Which, rompecabezas wins.

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I mean, hands down.

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But then what's oops?

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Oops in English is oops.

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In- Well, you could say that in Spanish, but- Right, but- … it,

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algo salió mal … which, I mean, no.

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I mean, by the time you say it, you've a- already fallen on your face.

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Algo salió, boom.

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So there, put the tie there anyway.

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We're on the bus going home, and I have to get dials for Adrian in two days.

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Oops.

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What?

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Pal que palta, so what's the- Algo salió mal.

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Algo salió mal.

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Algo salió mal

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Anyway, how are you, my friends?

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That's great.

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That's great to hear.

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I'm so happy for you.

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So profoundly happy.

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How am I?

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I'm not great at all.

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I have to get dental surgery in a matter of about two hours.

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I know I mentioned my dental issues the last week or the week before, maybe

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both, and I mentioned how anxious I am at the dentist and so forth and so on,

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but we're at zero hour now, my friends.

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Like, I have to go in in about, uh, two hours, as I said, to get a tooth pulled

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out of my face, and then I guess a implant of some sort placed in the bone of my jaw.

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Let's not talk about it.

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Let's not talk about it, 'cause talking about it makes it sound like some sort of

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a medieval torture, which, again, perhaps it is, you know, dentistry and all.

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but it's necessary because the tooth hurts and it's gotta go

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apparently, according to the dentist.

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So I have to go through this thing and I am feeling

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a profound level of anxiety about the whole thing

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I don't understand how people don't get profoundly anxious about having

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to get this kind of thing done.

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I'm trying to think if I would be as anxious if, if I was going in for

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like, I don't know, like a regular surgery that's not mouth-related.

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I think I probably would be.

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But for that, I'd probably be put asleep, so that's the biggest difference, is

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that I'm going to be awake for this, and the idea of being awake while somebody's

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yanking a tooth out of my mouth, it's not pleasant to think about, nor will

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it be pleasant to experience, I imagine.

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Who knows?

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Maybe it'll be wonderful.

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Maybe I'll wanna do it again.

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I don't think so.

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But again, I'm open to the idea that I may just enjoy this experience

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I'm not putting money on it though, at all.

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Why didn't you get anesthesia, Jef?

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Why didn't you ask them?

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Well, I did.

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I did, in fact.

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And for some reason, it costs an incredible amount of money in

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Mexico City, or Mexico in general.

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Almost $1,000 to get anesthesia.

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So we're foregoing that, and we're going to raw dog it through this.

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I mean, they're gonna numb my mouth, I assume, but gonna get headphones.

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I'll listen to headphones.

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Everything will be fine

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Deep breaths.

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Deep breaths.

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Anyway, so that's why there's not a very long episode this week because I

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went to Oaxaca, got back late Monday night, and then scheduled this dental

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appointment and was overcome with anxiety for the last few days about it.

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And now as the clock ticks closer and closer to the time I have to walk over

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to the dentist office and get this done,

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It'll be fine.

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It will be.

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I'm trying to ask myself what exactly it is that I am so anxious about.

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Like, nobody wants to go through unpleasant things, of course, and

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that's really all that this will be, is an unpleasant thing to go

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through, and that can build character.

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Am I right?

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Like, although the idea of a dental procedure building

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character is somewhat absurd.

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Uh, I'm grabbing at whatever straws I can grab at here.

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So yes, there's a positive thing.

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This experience will build character.

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Also, it will prevent my tooth from rotting and falling

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out, so forth and so on.

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And this is only part one.

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I guess I have to go back in, like, three or four, five months once the

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gaping wound in my mouth heals so they can put the fake tooth in or whatever.

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Ugh.

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Honestly, it wouldn't be so bad.

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Like, a lot of my anxiety comes from the fact that I am in Mexico.

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I'm in a foreign country where I don't speak the language very well, and

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I've only been here five months, and it, it's just… Like, were I going

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through this in, in the United States, yes, I would be anxious, for sure.

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But there's another level of it here.

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Do you understand?

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It's a lot.

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It's a lot for my poor, anxious mind to deal with But it's gonna happen.

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It's confirmed.

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Although I did think this morning, I was like, "Oh, what if I just

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tell them I'm not feeling well? I can reschedule it. I can put it

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off." No, you can't do that, Jef.

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You gotta do it.

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You gotta be a man.

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God, it's embarrassing how anxious and scared I am of

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getting this dental work done.

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And honestly, I think that anxiety and fear is why I've been putting it off

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for so long, and probably why I'm in the situation that I'm in right now.

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But don't look back.

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Don't look back.

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Just get your teeth yanked out and move forward.

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I don't wanna make this entire episode about my teeth, so let's talk about a few

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more things just so I can make it seem like this episode is actually an episode.

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Oh, I got a voicemail from a friend of the pod and a friend of mine, Kirsten.

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Here's some of it.

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We have quite a bit of bougainvillea here in California, and we call it

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bougainvillea, not bougainvillea.

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So I didn't look it up or anything.

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I don't know what the pro- correct pronunciation is, but there's quite

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a bit of bougainvillea talk here in California, and we call it bougainvillea,

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so I thought I'd provide that tidbit.

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Maybe helpful, maybe not.

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Anyway, thanks for the new episode.

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Thank you for the correction.

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I appreciate it.

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Uh, yes, that is the way it is pronounced.

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I was wrong.

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You are correct.

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It's pronounced the same in Mexico as it is in the United States.

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I would say it right now, but I'm editing in the voicemail message,

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so I don't actually remember what the word is that I mispronounced.

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I know it's the flower on my porch.

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Bougainvillea?

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Is that the wrong way to pronounce it?

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I don't know.

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I don't have access to the message right now, so

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Wow, very professional.

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Anyway, thank you Kirsten for the voicemail and for the correction.

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Uh, very helpful.

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I will no longer mispronounce bougainvillea.

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I'm still mispronouncing it, I think, but I will check it when I edit this

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episode, and I will write it down to make sure that I never mispronounce it again.

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However it's pronounced, that flowering bush on my terrace,

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the flowers are going away.

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I don't know if it's a seasonal thing, but they flowered a lot, and then they are not

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flowering right now, which is unfortunate, but to everything turn, turn, turn.

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There is a season turn, turn, turn, and so on and so forth.

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Thank you God for the reminder.

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When I was in Oaxaca, I learned that the name for toes in Spanish

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is the same as the name for fingers, which is dedos, dedos

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So literally toes in Spanish are just foot fingers.

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Wha-

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Which is, I'm sorry, it's wrong.

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It's not right.

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Estee and I have this longstanding kind of competition.

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She's a Spanish teacher, and I'm a longstanding friendly competition

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about which version of the word is better English or Spanish.

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And for this one, I would say having a word for it, toes, is much

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better than having foot fingers.

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Foot fingers, I mean, there's many things that I think about.

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There's a name of an indie rock band, Foot Fingers.

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There's the name of the first album of some band.

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There's, uh, something sexual.

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I'm not sure exactly what.

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Uh, there's a lot going on there, uh, but none of it's great.

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None of it's great.

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So if you are a purveyor of the Spanish language, a person who is developing

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it, if you're listening to this by some random thing, let's work on a word.

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I would never be one to encourage you to add words to the Spanish language

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because there's already so many.

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But in this case, I think, yes, you need a word.

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Instead of foot fingers, you need a word.

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I imagine there's other languages that use foot fingers too, but I just

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don't know, and I don't want to know.

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I don't wanna know

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I'm gonna have to call this episode Foot Fingers now.

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Oh, well

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Worse things happen.

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Oaxaca.

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We took the bus to Oaxaca.

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Took about seven hours to get there.

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Beautiful drive through the mountains.

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Mexico's a beautiful country.

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Lots of different landscapes, really pretty.

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And the bus drive wasn't-- the ride wasn't bad at all.

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You know, it was long, but we stopped a few times.

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It wasn't terrible.

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One thing I did notice, though, I haven't really been on the highways much here

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in Mexico, but people drive… Like, in Mexico City, people drive crazy, but

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in the highways, like, it's nuts, dude.

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We were in a bus, of course, as I said, and, like, I, you know, I imagine we

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were going quite slow, and part of it, we were on, like, two-lane roads.

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So basically, people just pass you whenever they want.

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They would kinda just pass, and then the cars c- oncoming

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cars would go into the berm.

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Like, it was just like how traffic language works here.

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It was just, like, natural.

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Single line, double line, doesn't matter.

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We'll pass whenever we want to.

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It's nuts, and I can't believe that there's not more accidents because,

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uh, uh, yeah, it's some crazy driving.

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It's like the berm is another lane, to be honest.

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And I was thinking about my friend Gary, who biked all the way to, to

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Chile, how dangerous it would've been to, to bike on these roads 'cause you'd

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be biking in the berm, and if cars are just using that as a lane, Jesus.

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I'm glad he survived.

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Congratulations, Gary.

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Oaxaca is also the mezcal capital of Mexico and the world, I imagine.

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So everywhere there are mezcal distilleries.

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Everywhere.

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I mean, boom, boom, left, right, left, right.

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Just everywhere.

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We went to a tour for, of a mezcal place, learned how it was made.

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I don't entirely understand still, but it was interesting.

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Uh, tequila is a kind of mezcal, as they say.

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Like, all tequila is mezcal, but not all mezcal is tequila

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Tequila's made with blue agave.

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That's the only thing you can make tequila out of, whereas mezcal

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can be made of all different kinds of agave, I think, apparently.

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Anyway, we drank a lot of mezcal.

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Not a lot, enough.

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It was fun.

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I don't know if I like mezcal or not.

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It's like wine here, to be honest.

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Like, people are very serious about their mezcal here.

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They showed us this way to drink it.

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Like, they poured some into a shot glass, and they said, "You put your

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finger over the middle of the shot, of the opening of the top, and then

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you smell of the top of the finger and then below the finger, and you're

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supposed to smell something different."

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I did not smell m- many different things, but I lied and said that I did.

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I didn't want to upset the, uh, mezcal maker.

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We saw the tree with the biggest trunk in the world.

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I forget what it's called.

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It's in Oaxaca City.

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It's not a tall tree.

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It's a Mexican cypress.

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Beautiful tree, beautiful, but, like, literally massive trunk, and all

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I could think of is, like, girth.

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It's the only word I could think of when I was there.

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It's weird, and girth kind of comes off as a sexual… Like, length is girth.

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Anyway, it was a pretty tree, and my brain ruined it by thinking of girth.

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'Cause there was a church right there too.

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There were churches everywhere.

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Oaxaca is so full of churches.

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Like, every single block, giant, old, amazing-looking biblical church.

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And right when we got there, like, the first evening we were there, we were

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walking around, and we had just had dinner or something, and we just stumbled upon

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this, this huge parade that was apparently for, like, graduating people from

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college or starting college or something.

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I think starting college.

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But huge parade.

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Like, bands playing, people marching, people with giant, weird costumes with

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all this… I can't even describe it.

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I'll put some pictures on the Patreon page, patreon.com/onefjef.

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Sign up now.

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See, that was quick and painless this time.

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Anyway, it was a magical way to begin the trip.

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Like, it was just like we were, like, in the parade.

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We just kinda walked down the street, and boom, there it was.

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Fireworks, all sorts of things.

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Super fun.

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That's kind of the nature of the whole trip, really.

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It was just kind of a magical trip.

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Yeah, super fun.

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One night we were drinking in this bar, uh, sitting on this patio, like

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just a second-floor patio, and I looked down, and there was a person dressed

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in, like, a rabbit robot costume.

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It was like a rabbit but had, like, glowing eyes, uh, holding a, a knife,

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which I assume was fake, but just kind of walking down the street holding a knife.

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So I don't know.

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I don't know what to say about that

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I didn't see them stab anybody, the, the knife-wielding rabbit costume person

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And we had this meal at this restaurant, the first word of which is yeast, which

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is not generally a word I would suggest is a good word to put in the title of

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a restaurant, at least not in English.

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But I guess in Spanish it works out better.

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I don't remember the word for yeast, but apparently the first

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word of this restaurant is yeast.

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It's a very well-regarded restaurant.

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I think Michelin-listed or something.

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I don't know.

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So we went there, and we had this, like, appetizer, uh, tomato salad thing.

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This was possibly one of the best things I have eaten in years.

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I didn't think tomatoes could taste so good.

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It was all different kinds of tomatoes arranged beautifully, and there

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was kind of this, like, uh, was it beet, like, puree underneath it.

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My friends, I would go back to Oaxaca just to eat that tomato dish again,

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and I'm not a big foodie, to be honest.

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I like good food, but I'm not like, "Uh-huh, I don't know how to do it."

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This was… It was transcendent.

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It was transcendent.

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Now tomatoes taste like shit to me because they're not made like this or whatever.

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They're not-- I don't know what they did.

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Maybe there were drugs in them.

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I don't know.

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It doesn't matter to me.

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It was still good.

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So yeah, if you're in Me- if you're in Oaxaca, if you go to Oaxaca, find

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the restaurant th- the name of which starts with the Spanish word for yeast.

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I wish I could help you out a little more than that.

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But, you know, it's fun to have to look things up and figure

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them out yourself, isn't it?

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It is.

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It is

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We took a tour bus out to this place called Monte Albán, Monte Albán, and

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it's this, I don't know, 500 BC was founded, this, you know, the ancient

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Zapotec people, I believe, who were the original people who were in Oaxaca.

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This is where they, you know, hung out, this whole amazing structure

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on the top of this mountain that you can kind of see the whole city from.

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It's incredible, and as you're driving out there, like, you understand why

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Oaxaca is the mezcal capital of the world because there is literally

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agave growing everywhere, like as far as the eye can see, agave,

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agave, agave, agave, agave, agave.

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So if somebody was like, "Oh, look at all the… What can we do with

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all…? Oh, we can make mezcal." That's how I imagine it started.

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Anyway, this Monte Albán was kind of spectacular, and our

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tour guide was very good.

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I wish I could, um, explain why or how, but he was good.

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He was like a performer, you know?

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Yeah, that was fun.

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Anyway, I am becoming distracted because I need to prepare to go to

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the dentist in about 45 minutes.

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So I'm gonna do some yoga.

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I think it's a good idea, and I will finish this later or not.

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Maybe it's already done.

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Maybe it's done.

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If it is done, please like, rate, subscribe, and review.

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It always helps.

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Uh, send this episode to one of your friends or send a different

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episode to one of your friends.

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These things spread by word of mouth, my friends, and any word of mouth

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you can give, I really appreciate.

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Speaking of mouth, I'm getting dental work done today.

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And I'm trying to think of a good teeth-related quote if I'm

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really gonna end this episode.

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Uh, I don't know one offhand.

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I'd have to look one up, a tooth-related quote.

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Did Rumi say anything about teeth?

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I doubt it.

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I doubt it.

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What was dentistry like in Rumi's day?

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I wonder.

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I bet I could have, like, AI write a poem about teeth in the style of Rumi.

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Let's do that right now.

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Okay.

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Write a poem about teeth or dental work.

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Let's do dental work.

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Dental work in the, the style.

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This is exciting, isn't it?

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Rumi.

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Here we go.

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Oh.

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All right.

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The dentist takes the tooth, and I say, "But this has always

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been me." The tooth laughs.

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"No, beloved. I was only something you were holding onto."

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Then the drill begins, and the old pain leaves through a tiny door.

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What remains is empty.

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What remains is space.

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And Rumi whispers, "Wa- what? Why?" Rumi does not insert

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himself into his poems, whatever.

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And Rumi whispers, "Do not fear the space.

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This is where the new thing will grow

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Six or seven out of 10, I'd say.

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I, I disagree with the ending because nothing new is going to

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grow in the socket of the tooth, but it's a good effort, ChatGPT

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Hello all.

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I thought I'd give you an update.

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I just got back from the oral surgery, the extraction of the tooth, and the

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implant, which involves putting some sort of a metal object in my jaw.

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I don't know.

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The good news is I'm alive.

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I am in pain, and I am drooling blood, but I am, I'm alive.

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It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

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Of course, your anxiety gets the best of you, and you… Yeah, I

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didn't really feel much of anything.

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And there's a new neighbor with dogs

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And it may drive me to the edge of my sanity

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Anyway, I'm really exhausted, uh, but I did wanna just throw an update in there.

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It's not over.

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I have to go back next week and get some stitches removed or

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something, and I can't exercise.

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I can't eat solid foods.

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Uh, I'm gonna be drooling blood for a day, so that's exciting.

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Uh, but it's over for… The worst part is over, I think.

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I hope.

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Yeah, there's a sense of relief

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And also a sense of, "Now I have to pay for this."

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But I'm gonna go lie down now and, uh, continue, get a Kleenex to

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mop up the blood that's pouring out of my mouth right now.

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Not pouring, but you know what I mean.

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Okay.

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Sorry if I'm mumbling.

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I can't really move my, my entire side of my face is numb, so that's exciting too.

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Love you guys.

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Very good, Jeffrey

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