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Neptune in Aries: Waves, Eras, and the Birth of a New Spiritual Cycle
27th January 2026 • I Am Astrology Readings Podcast with Paul Heath • I Am Astrology Readings Podcast
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The impending ingress of Neptune into Aries represents a monumental shift, heralding the dawn of a new spiritual era. This transition, occurring on March 30, signifies a profound transformation, as Neptune, the harbinger of dreams and illusions, enters the dynamic realm of Aries, characterized by action and self-assertion. Throughout this episode, we delve into the implications of this transition, reflecting on how the energies of Neptune and Aries may influence our personal journeys and societal dynamics over the next 14 years. Our discussion encompasses the potential for blurred boundaries in relationships, the emergence of new spiritual archetypes, and the necessity of confronting our fears and aspirations. As we navigate this transformative phase, we invite listeners to consider how these cosmic shifts may resonate within their own lives and the broader tapestry of existence.

A deep conversation on Neptune’s shift into Aries — a new 14‑year cycle of spiritual action and awakening. We look back at the Neptune‑in‑Pisces era (2011–2024) and the cultural waves it shaped, then explore the historical patterns that emerge every time Neptune enters Aries. The episode also turns personal, reflecting on Paul’s own Neptune journey and how this transit reshapes identity, vocation, and spiritual direction. A discussion about cycles, eras, and the way generational planets rewrite both the collective story and our individual paths.

The I Am Astrology Readings podcast delves into the profound implications of Neptune's transit into Aries, which heralds a significant cosmic shift. This transition, set to occur on March 30, marks the beginning of a new spiritual era, as Neptune, the planet associated with dreams, illusions, and inspiration, enters the dynamic and assertive realm of Aries for the first time in 150 years. The hosts, Walter, Paul, and D, engage in an insightful dialogue that explores the historical and astrological significance of this event, drawing parallels with past cycles of Neptune and the transformative energies they unleashed. They discuss how this transit invites an awakening of self-awareness, action-oriented spirituality, and the potential for personal and collective empowerment, urging listeners to reflect on their aspirations and the courage required to pursue them. In their discussion, they also contemplate how this cosmic shift may influence broader societal dynamics, including political landscapes and cultural movements. The hosts reference historical events that coincided with previous Neptune in Aries transits, suggesting that the current period may similarly provoke significant changes and challenges, demanding a reevaluation of personal values, relationships, and societal structures. They emphasize the importance of harnessing the assertive energy of Aries to confront fears, embrace new opportunities, and foster a sense of community, all while navigating the illusions and complexities inherent in Neptune's influence. Ultimately, the podcast serves as a catalyst for listeners to engage with the transformative potential of this astrological event, inviting them to align their personal journeys with the greater cosmic narrative unfolding around them.

Takeaways:

  1. The podcast discusses the significant astrological event of Neptune entering Aries, marking a transformative period.
  2. Neptune's transition symbolizes a new spiritual era, as it moves into the fiery sign after 150 years.
  3. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their personal growth during Neptune's previous transit through Pisces.
  4. The hosts emphasize the importance of taking action towards dreams and aspirations as Neptune shifts into Aries.
  5. The conversation touches on the potential societal changes anticipated with Neptune's new placement.
  6. Listeners are reminded of the cyclical nature of astrological influences and their impact on individual lives.

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Speaker A:

Welcome to the I Am Astrology readings podcast, where we decode the cosmos and bring the stars down to Earth. We're going to do it a little differently today than our normal routine.

First of all, we haven't seen each other in a while, so welcome back, D. Thanks for having us, Paul.

So today I'm going to be your host, Walter, and we're going to be diving into one of the most powerful shifts of our time, which is basically Neptune's entrance into Aries. Now, that's going to be happening on March 30, so I think about a week from today. Yeah, so this is. Yeah, so this is. This is definitely more than.

More than just a transit. It's.

It's actually the dawn of a new spiritual era, because for the first time in about 150 years, Neptune, which is the planet of dreams, illusions, and divine inspiration, is stepping into the bold and fiery sign of Aries. Now, we all know what Aries likes, and it's essentially, you know, action, selfhood, self awareness, or lack thereof, and initiation.

And so before we get started, I actually want to add something kind of personal here. So this podcast actually began around the halfway point of Neptune in Pisces. I believe.

t episode back in December of:

And so with that, the podcast is evolving right alongside it. Since then, Paul has actually written, I think, over 350 blogs.

I know it's probably a lot more than that, and I know for sure he's recorded more than 50 podcast episodes. And that in itself is a huge body of spiritual and astrological insight. So before we dive into the symbolism and.

And the energy of Neptune and Aries, how does that feel, Paul, to be riding the wave of Neptune's journey both cosmically and creatively?

Speaker B:

Well, first off, it must be Mercury retrograde if you starting off the show. Hello, D. How you doing, D?

Speaker C:

I'm doing good. Feels great to be back. I'm so glad we're doing this again.

Speaker B:

All right, almost.

Speaker C:

You said:

Speaker B:

Well, to answer your question. Well, be honest with you, to really get into that, we. We would really have to get into the show because some of the stuff that I.

That has to do with this wave of spiritual knowledge actually began when Neptune first entered Pisces. You know, And. But, you know, it's been cool. It's been a journey. And the Official number is 422blogs.

Speaker A:

400. 422blogs.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I knew I was over 300.

Speaker B:

Some may call that a workaholic, but, you know, I'm not married to adjectives.

Speaker A:

And. And that's not including the. The endless amount of content that you've created on Tick Tock, Instagram, and now YouTube. Right.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And Neptune's been passing through Pisces. And what is Pisces? Film photography. Yeah. Well. Yeah. Yeah. So glad to see y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

How you doing? And all of that. And it's.

It's interesting that the wave stuff, because that was the idea or the thought that I had when I have other people from other platforms on, it's kind of like they have a wave, you know, let's combine ways.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So, yeah.

Speaker A:

Let's get wavy together.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Which, you know. Do you want to say something?

Speaker C:

Oh, no, I don't have anything really prepared. Just.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker C:

And excited to get into things.

Speaker B:

Because I did. It's interesting that you said something about waves and stuff, because what was going on? When did Neptune go into Pisces? Remember?

Speaker A:

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Speaker B:

was going on in the world in:

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah. Well, do you? Do you. Do you guys? I don't know if you remember D, but I. I know that you and I are kind of the same age.

end or something like that in:

Speaker C:

Yeah, in:

Speaker A:

Yeah. And so everybody was kind of, like, making a big fuss about it, because.

Speaker C:

th in:

Speaker A:

th,:

And it's funny because I. I was remembering that a few days ago, and I remember that a lot, like, people I worked with, everybody was kind of making this big deal. Like, the.

nstagram had just come out in:

Speaker B:

Well, what. Why are we bringing up way. Because what is Neptune?

Speaker C:

Neptune is Poseidon. That's the king of the sea. And the emotions and the, you know, it's not the underworld, but it's an underworld.

Speaker B:

Correct.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

So Neptune, the king of the sea. Pisces, water. You only can think of waves because water makes waves. Right?

Speaker A:

Cosmic waves.

Speaker B:

y of a few things. We had. In:

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah. Wasn't that the Wall Street.

Speaker B:

Well, what. No, no. Well, that. I got that one down there. A wave. A wave of debt. Occupy Wall street was Occupy Wall Street.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's right. Occupy Wall Street.

Speaker B:

Yes, yes. A wave of. A wave of debt. But the wave of revolution was the Egyptian revolution. Libya in Syria.

Speaker A:

In:

Speaker B:

Yeah. You remember the. When they ousted the Egyptian president Mubarak.

Speaker A:

I had just started college in:

Speaker B:

All right, you remember them talking about the Arab Spring?

Speaker A:

The Arab Spring, yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Arab Spring is a series of uprisings, protests, revolutions that swept across the Middle east and North Africa.

The notable ones were the Egyptian revolution with President Hussaini. Mubarak was forced to resign after mass protest. Gaddafi. You remember Gaddafi?

Speaker A:

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, I do remember. Was it wasn't. Wasn't that when. When Obama came into. Into presidency?

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah, it was. So, yeah, I was. Wait, what was. Those were my college years. I was too drunk to remember.

Speaker A:

Well, that's a good point.

Speaker C:

Remember, Too young to care. Like, not quite, you know, like as politically bent, you know? You know, listening for. I do recognize the name Gaddafi though.

Speaker B:

Someone was killed at you.

Speaker A:

Saddam Hussein.

Speaker C:

No, no, Osama wasn't.

Speaker B:

Osama bin Laden was killed.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker B:

So. So was. Could. Could that have marked in the beginning of the end of a wave of terror?

Speaker C:

Yeah, for sure. Osama was a Pisces too. Yeah, he's a Pisces.

Speaker A:

Well, he was.

Speaker C:

He was one.

Speaker A:

Oh, wow. I didn't know that plot twist.

Speaker C:

He's still alive. It was all for show.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker C:

Kidding. I don't know, but maybe.

Speaker B:

Speaking of. Speaking of waves, do y' all remember Fukushima?

Speaker C:

Fukushima? The.

Speaker A:

The volcano.

Speaker B:

No, the nuclear. You remember the tsunami? The earthquake?

The earthquake that triggered that massive tsunami, that causing that Fukushima nuclear disaster killing 15,000 people?

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I don't remember that at all.

Speaker B:

One of the deadliest tornadoes.

Speaker C:

I think it's still uninhabitable. Like it's still like highly, highly, highly radiated.

Speaker A:

Was that in Japan?

Speaker C:

In Japan, yeah.

Speaker B:

March 11th in Japan.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker B:

Do you there was the one of the U. United States is deadliest tornado in Joplin, Missouri. Oh. Killing 158 people.

Speaker C:

Was that Katrina? That's not Katrina.

Speaker B:

No, no, it was a tornado. It was a tornado in Missouri.

Speaker A:

But Katrina came after, right?

Speaker B:

No, Katrina was on Katrina.

Speaker C:

I was still in high school.

Speaker B:

Technology wise, that was the end of NASA space shuttle program.

Speaker A:

Yes. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Pluto was reclassified.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did that a few times, I think.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

They called it what a dwarf planet.

Speaker C:

They re classified it as a dwarf planet. Is that when that happened?

Speaker B:

Or they declare declared Pluto a dwarf planet. The, the. I forgot the Occupy wall. Yeah, I said the Occupy occupied wave of debt. We ended withdrew from the Iraq war.

Speaker C:

On paper.

Speaker A:

Oh yeah.

Speaker B:

Well, the, the end of the record is to the 18th. December 18th. What the U. S. Formally withdrew its troops from the Iraq war. Do you remember nine years.

Speaker A:

That's right. That's right. Do you also remember the. The Coney was it Coney? There was like some African thing. It was like a movement. It ended up being a scam.

I'm gonna have to look that up.

Speaker B:

You know what came out that year?

Speaker A:

It was a film in:

Speaker B:

Even though I never watched it, I hear everybody, people talk about it. The Game of Thrones.

Speaker A:

That's right. That's right.

Speaker C:

Way after the hype, like after the hype had like already died down a lot, I was like, I'm gonna check.

Speaker A:

And I have, I have that here. Yeah, I have that here as one of our points.

But yeah, great films and great shows like, like shows like the Game of Thrones was in an epic, epic show.

Speaker C:

Yeah, good. I. I could definitely see the hype after I finally caved and watched it.

Speaker B:

at I wanted to bring up about:

Speaker A:

Yeah, he ended up being an.

Speaker C:

I think Steve Jobs is a Pisces too.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Yeah, he was.

Speaker C:

Was he? Okay, I'm pretty sure. But I, I don't know.

Speaker A:

And, and, and you know, and you know, I mean after that, I mean, I mean Apple was. Was already like on the rise, but you know, everything just. Just intensified. And I mean we can go into. Because you mentioned technology, Paul.

We can go into like AI that has just been developed now in the late stages. Okay, go, go, go.

Speaker B:

ng. Since you said technology:

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So where, where has, where has social media gone from in these last 14 years?

Speaker C:

It's really taking off.

Speaker A:

Yeah, no, it's affected an entire generation at this point.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And, and you think about it, and.

Speaker C:

It'S also like the illusion of like, here's my real. Here's, you know, all the good things that are happening to me. Here's all, you know, here's me and my family as perfect.

Here's, you know, my perfect wife, kids, my perfect this, my perfect that. So it's like the illusion of happiness and connection also, or the distortion, illusion, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker B:

So. But in:

Speaker A:

Not even. It's like 10 seconds at this point.

Speaker C:

Well, now it's getting longer again. Like Tick Tock's letting people do like 10 minute videos these days.

Speaker A:

I know, but I scroll right through them because, you know, my brain has Adapted to the 10 seconds. So.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Now.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Before we go any further, what are, what is Neptune? What is Neptune? What's some key words for Neptune?

Speaker A:

Well, we just had a few illusions. Dreams.

Speaker C:

Conscious consciousness, spirituality, emotions going through the waves of life. Like we were talking about.

Speaker A:

The dissolver.

Speaker C:

Yeah. It really blurs the lines.

Speaker A:

Fear, confusion.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Fear, misfortune.

Speaker B:

Fantasy.

Speaker A:

Fraudulent activity.

Speaker C:

Drunkenness, substance abuse.

Speaker B:

Is Neptune the ocean?

Speaker C:

Yeah, I could be.

Speaker B:

All right. And think about how vast is an ocean?

Speaker A:

Oh, we still haven't discovered every part of it yet.

Speaker C:

Our oceans are less explored than outer space. We know more about outer space than we do about our oceans.

Speaker B:

Neptune says from the Isabel Hickey book, Neptune can show wisdom beyond reason. Genius, creative, creative ability, music, intuition, poetic, invisible realm.

me a question, Walter, about:

Speaker A:

How you feel.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And, and, and so I started thinking about what. What is also Neptune is boundaries and bound, or lack of boundaries. It does, you know.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Boundaries dissolve. All right. And so. Did you want to go back in history to the last time before you want this.

Speaker A:

Yeah. You want to go into that?

Speaker B:

We can't before I, you know, because I was going to. I was sitting back reflecting on what did Neptune do to me in the last 14 years, to my Pisces area.

Speaker A:

Yeah. So. And then this is just Basically, like, to recap, the Neptune changes signs every 14 years.

And if you think about it, 14 is the Saturn opposition cycle.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

So it's, it's, it's interesting that it happens like that every 14 years. Now, the last time. Do you want to go into the last time Neptune was in Aries?

Speaker B:

Sure.

Speaker A:

time Neptune was in Aries was:

Now, those dates might not be significant to a lot of people, but to some people it will be because that is technically when the American Revolution started.

Speaker C:

From, from England.

Speaker A:

No, no, the American Revolution here with slavery. Like the Slavery Act.

Speaker B:

The Civil War.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, yeah, the Civil War. The 14th Amendment, which was, you know, birthright citizenship.

So my, my point in, in, in bringing this into, into today's conversation is that it seems right now that a lot of the things that are happening currently, like the current events and the news that you.

That you hear about every day politically with, with the United States, you know, socially, like globally, a lot of, A lot of those things kind of were occurring also during that. Except, you know, America was becoming like. America.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah, it was still in the process. It was figuring things out.

Speaker A:

Exactly, exactly. So, yeah, we can, we can definitely go. Go into that and.

Speaker B:

right, well, you said it was:

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

me, the Civil war lasted from:

Speaker A:

Well, that's a good 14 years. That's a great question. You know, will there even be a Reconstruction?

Speaker B:

Yeah, because what, what?

Speaker C:

Yeah, because like, Neptune is like, breaking down, like, the boundaries and blurring the lines, and then we're gonna have to rebuild something.

Speaker B:

Yeah, well, Reconstruction was the US Government works to rebuild the south and integrate freed Americans into society.

Speaker C:

Well, it's gonna be about Mexicans this time.

Speaker B:

Well, that's why I was getting thinking about. Right. Will that instead of Reconstruction era being slaves, will it be.

Speaker A:

Immigrants?

Speaker B:

Immigrants trying to come back, be part of the society again after someone taking a hostile approach to pretty much like, you know, the stance of the Confederate Robert E. Lee. And, and.

Speaker A:

Well, before, before we, we get into that really quickly, I want to say these are, these are core themes for Neptune and Aries. It's the spiritual warrior archetype.

Speaker C:

Then you.

Speaker A:

Have new movements and activism because Aries likes to be, you know, an activist. Then you have blurred lines between action and illusion, techno, mysticism and an energy healing revolution.

A potential boom in like let's say for example, martial arts based on healing mind, body techniques. You know, since Aries rules the head and the brain.

So things that have to do like you know, with like the head and, and an emergence of new heroes or archetypes and, and, and more so with a focus on like strong individuals, you know, right. Wrong individuals that kind of go into history and like do something like big and they're known for that.

Speaker C:

Like Neptune is like the dream and then Aries is the action.

So it's gonna be like people taking action toward their dreams and like being more assertive and confident and I don't know, really taking the reins and maybe even violent.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

And aggressive and forceful. One of the celebrities I had that has Neptune in Aries was Benjamin Franklin. But I think that's like more the. This is not.

That's, that's too early for the most recent time that the, you know, Neptune was in Aries. It's a little further back than that. The last, last time that it was an Aries.

Speaker B:

ause Walter, I didn't stop at:

Speaker A:

You. You kept going back.

Speaker B:

I kept going back.

Speaker A:

You went back a long time.

Speaker B:

as the last time before then?:

Speaker A:

I have here:

Speaker C:

I think, I think I came across that one too. Charles the something.

Speaker A:

The conclusion of major wars. Charles the eighth. I think he was like English, British.

Speaker C:

Yeah, one of those I can't find.

Speaker A:

And then:

And then Henry VII, which I think was probably like Spanish Empire, like Christian Reformation. Christianity, The. The English Reformation.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Do you know.

Speaker A:

Oh, go ahead.

Speaker B:

There is something that all these 14 year periods had in common.

Speaker A:

What is it?

Speaker B:

Power struggles, strong individual figure, expansion through conflict, cultural shifts as well as advancing power struggles, strong individual figures, expansion through conflict and cultural shifts.

Speaker A:

Sounds like our president.

Speaker C:

Right. I wonder where his Neptune is.

Speaker A:

Well, just. It just, it just sounds like what we're going through right now.

Speaker C:

You know who was, you know who was around.

Speaker B:

Ivan. Was that Ivan iv? Peter the Great.

Speaker A:

Peter the Great.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Yeah. You're naming a bunch that I didn't Come across you. Can I name a few of my celebrities?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Gandhi has Neptune and Aries. Winston Church, Julius Caesar, Gregory Rasputin. Rasputin from the. The Moscow. He was like the Russian magician or consultant to the king.

Benjamin Franklin. I'm just naming the few that stuck out to me. Henry Ford.

Speaker B:

These people have what?

Speaker C:

These all, they all have Neptune and Aries. So like, just to give people like an idea of like the times of like, whoops. Things that were happening based on like these people who were famous.

Speaker A:

Gandhi really stands out to me on that one.

Speaker C:

Right. He stands out to me too. Like it wasn't like, because he is like the spiritual. But I wouldn't put him as like Neptune and Aries particularly.

Speaker A:

He was supposed to be, he was supposed to be for like peace. Right.

Speaker C:

Like he was kind of like.

Speaker A:

A nonviolent resistance.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that was, that was his thing. But like I guess those are kind of Aries themes.

Like violence is a theme, but like he went through the other side of like non violence and controlling your anger and physical aggression.

Speaker B:

Yes. By the way, Abraham Lincoln was that trigger during that time.

Speaker A:

Strong, strong figure, you mean? Yeah, well, he freed the slaves supposedly.

Speaker B:

Yeah. But conflicts, power struggles, influence of, of powerful individuals. Oh, religious and political upheaval.

And this is one, this is one I wanted to touch on global interconnectedness. And, and we, we did bring up social media and we talked about Pisces and Neptune and stuff and boundaries. Right.

You know, one thing that social media has done. Connected, erased borders.

Speaker C:

Yeah. We're all in a meeting right now. Like what?

Speaker A:

In different places. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's technology.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So where, where will we be on those issues in these next 14 years coming up?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I also went back in time. Right. And I wanted to know what year, what years did you know, like Neptune is going into Aries this year?

o Aries in history. So we got:

Speaker C:

So what is that, like every 150 years or so?

Speaker B:

164.

Speaker C:

164.

Speaker B:

gure. Like Genghis Khan was a:

Genghis Khan was around.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I saw that too.

Speaker C:

And pillaging already, starting on his crusade.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Violence and raping and pillaging and spreading.

Speaker B:

His seed across the globe.

Speaker C:

Yeah. There's like some crazy high percentage of the globe that's related to Genghis Khan.

Speaker B:

. Henry VII was around during:

Speaker A:

Man, if only we could go back to 715 and unspread that Christianity.

Speaker B:

So as. As we can see, basically what I'm setting up and showing y' all is that, you know, this.

What we seeing currently in the news is nothing new under the sun.

Speaker A:

No, it's. It's not. It's just. It's different. It's a. It's a different representation, you know, if you will.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Are going to be in different spots.

Be like, just because Neptune is in, you know, entering Aries again, you still have the other planets to color that particular Neptune in your Aries cycle.

Speaker A:

Absolutely. Even though. Even though technically Uranus is changing signs too.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Well, the. Well, if we.

If you really want to be technical, there's a lot of shift because Pluto also technically just saying signs and went into Aries and all of these are. What do they call those generational planets?

Speaker C:

Pluto in.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we're about. Yeah.

Speaker C:

Or Pluto went into. Pluto went into Aquarius, didn't it?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Yeah. But. Yeah, but. But what. What he's basically saying is like the. These three generational planets that kind of, you know, give the flavor to.

To humanity. They're all like, you know, moving along and. And that's just gonna give rise to like, a whole new breed of. Of. Of human, you know, in a way. Okay. Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah. You know how they say indigo babies and what are they.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Can we say a whole new type of soul is about to start being born on this Earth.

Speaker A:

So is it going to be a technological soul?

Speaker B:

Well, I mean, you know, with all these generations shifting, you know.

Speaker A:

I mean, I would be really curious to see, like, what comes out of this, you know, because it is. It is so interesting. It's you. You're gonna have, like, babies being born under Pluto and Aquarius, Neptune and Aries, Uranus and Gemini.

Like, what kind. Like what kind of personalities are going to be like? To me, it seems like these are going to be like, people that. That.

That are going to come in with, like, novelty, like something. Something that right now we can't even fathom what they're going to come in with. That's how new it'll be.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So I want to go back to the first thing you asked me and this. Make this personal.

Speaker A:

Let's circle back and make it personal.

Speaker B:

irituality. Where was Paul in:

And actually when. When, when Neptune went into Pisces, I have Neptune at 0 degrees Sagittarius. So I was reaching.

I was actually at my Neptune square, which is square is of Mars energy. And Mars likes to cut and sever. And so I was, if I think about it slowly, why. Why did I stop going to church? Because I was feeling disillusioned.

I was feeling lied to. I didn't feel like I was listening to truth. Right. And this journey into.

where I was when it comes to:

Would have been Catholic religion. And I was. Setting out to figure out, you know, which is. Which is a square, you know, setting out to figure out what was my truth. And as.

And today as we record this, Neptune's at 29 degrees, which is in opposition to my Virgo sun at 29 degrees.

Speaker A:

Is that why you were late to the show?

Speaker B:

. So here it is. You know, in:

Speaker A:

Very on brand for somebody born with. With pisces in the 10th, huh? And Neptune going through your 10th, you've become you. You left.

aybe D agrees with this is in:

You really stepped away from probably like, you know, your, Your family values or traditions or you know, like just. Just family overall beliefs.

Speaker B:

Beliefs. I had to step away beliefs. The Pisces. And I was stepping away.

Speaker A:

Right. But. But you. You discover astrology, which is a very, in a way, Neptunian sort of art, because it, because it does, it does kind of go hand in hand.

I mean it is a science, but it's also kind of like psychic, the mystic arts.

Speaker B:

You know, the other day somebody came in and asked me, came into My live stream and asked me, do you believe in astrology? And I said no.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I know astrology. I don't believe in anything.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's like, it's pretty factual if you think about it. Like it's just, if you look at it from just a time like we're looking at like during this time these things happened.

It's just clock, it's just the clock ticking. It's the solar. Well, I guess not solar, but the astrological clock, the planet, the solar system clock.

Like when this planet moves through this location in outer space, things happen correlating.

Speaker B:

With that planet and you got to pay attention. You gotta take, you got to take a big picture approach. Look.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

To be able to see the cycle now, just like I just said, you know, and, and what is 10th house? 10th house could be seen as your. My public identity. And all I do is walk around in these I am astrology reading T shirts now in the Bible.

Speaker A:

And you have interactions with the public who ask you about, hey, like what does this mean? What does that mean?

And you know, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but now you have some family members that approach you to ask you about what's going on, you know, in the style.

Speaker B:

Yeah. It is cool that you know, some, my kids, my kids read my blog and, and you know, check up on the astrological energy. Yeah.

But just like me, I had a 14 year journey through my. Neptune had a 14 year journey through my 10th house. Neptune. I had a 14 year journey through both of you ladies. 12th house.

Yeah, and 12th house has to do with sorrows. It has to do with confined spaces. It has to do with mental health. It has to do with, you know, transcendence, isolation.

Speaker C:

And so secrets, self undoing.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So can y', all, can you. And, and actually, Walter, I know we talked about this earlier.

Neptune traveled over your son and your Mercury, it was dissolving barriers and boundaries and stuff. Your son, your son is in Pisces, right?

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

That's the only thing you have in Pisces.

Speaker C:

That's the only thing I have, thank God.

Speaker B:

So, so, so Neptune passed over your son and your son rules your fifth house of kids. Hobbies, creativity lovers and stuff like that. Speculation, gambling.

Can you two see with how Neptune has been working on y' all for them 14 years in that area?

Speaker C:

Yeah, for sure. I have two kids who have Neptune in Pisces now as a result of me going through this transit.

Speaker B:

All right. Oh, oh, oh, I see what you.

Speaker C:

Say because you said like kids and creativity. Like I created two kids during this time.

Speaker B:

ally, you know, and all that?:

Speaker C:

So I went through a lot of like, kind of what you talked about, like I, I didn't quit going to church like all at once. It was just kind of a slow progression away from there.

And astrology, just the more that I, I don't know, like I would always read like the stupid little horoscopes in the paper and it's like they're too general and they're too vague, but they're right.

And that led me through like the rabbit hole and like learning more about like where the other planets are and your personalized horoscope and know, changing my belief system and not putting so much into like a Christian church and.

Speaker B:

I.

Speaker C:

Don'T know, just finding my own path, my own belief system. A lot of self undoing, a lot of isolation. A lot of like learning who I am.

Speaker B:

How was you? Where were you at with sorrows and where you at with it now?

Speaker C:

So, because like I stepped away from the church like Walter said, like you're also kind of stepping away from family and traditions and a lot of that was realizing how toxic my, you know, my family of origin was and you know, have, you know, said like I.

And then having kids and wanting to be a good parent to them and having to really think about like all the things that my parents said to me, like, you'll understand when you're a parent. And then like I don't understand how you, I still don't get it how you could raise us this way.

Like all I want is to protect and shelter and keep these kids safe and you know, be with them all the time.

Speaker B:

And I got a question for you. How you talking about the shop and all of that can. And how it, it frustrates you.

Speaker A:

Can you see how that place right now?

Speaker B:

No, no, but, but what I'm saying is can you see how someone could bring work home and be frustrated and definitely.

Speaker C:

And then like also take it out on the kids?

Speaker B:

Sure.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Not everybody's, not everybody looks at, has the same approach to kids as we. Like.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And like everyone's different for sure.

Speaker A:

The shop.

Speaker C:

I can't really, I can't talk about that place.

Speaker B:

Well, no, no, no, I'm not, I'm not asking to talk about.

Speaker C:

We went into it all bright eyed and bushy tailed and like, you know, dreams and we're gonna make it work. And now we're having the harsh realization of like, it's so hard.

Speaker A:

Welcome to entrepreneurship.

Speaker C:

No one can prepare you for how hard it's going to be. Like, everyone tells you it's going to be hard to own your own business. You're like, yeah, I know, but you don't know.

Speaker B:

Well, you know, we just had this aspect of Venus and with, with the. No, no. The sun and. No, no. And I talked about shattered dream.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And fifth house is speculation. And so could some of what this stress of owning the business kind of shattered a dream of what you thought, what business could be.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah. And, like, don't get me wrong, we have, like, done a lot. We have grown it and, like, learned a lot and had, had every experience possible.

But, yeah, it's hard. It's like, it's shattering the dream. It's like coming to re. Harsh realizations. You could also, like, the, the shop is another one of my kids.

It needs a lot of attention. It needs nurturing. It needs help growing. It needs, like, all of these things that. Yeah, that's, that's what I'm gonna say. That's.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna just stop there.

Speaker B:

Hey, I didn't even know they had that much.

Speaker A:

So I, I, I, I'm doing it. So, so you guys can see. So I, I wonder. D. Is it, is it kind of like the grass wasn't greener on the other side?

Speaker C:

I thought, well, I don't know. The grass isn't green where we are. I can definitely see the grass is not green.

I don't know if it was ever green, but, like, I definitely had the disillusion of, I don't know, like, we wanted to be our own boss.

Speaker B:

And it's just, it's, it's being your own boss. What it, what it's all cracked up to be.

Speaker C:

It's not. Don't do it.

Speaker A:

I went through that. I went through that too. Well, we both, well, yeah, of course we're both areas. So we both went through it.

Speaker B:

Oh. Which is interesting. Yeah, you did. So how do y' all feel about being your own boss now? How do you feel, Walter, about being your own boss?

Speaker A:

Well, you know, I, I share the same sentiment that that d does. Personally. Personally, I think I, I think I, I, I wanted to be a boss at a very young age and when there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

But I, I have a north northern Capricorn. I didn't have the skills developed yet.

I think, I think, I think I have a lot, a lot more skills to develop before I can actually bring that dream to full fruition in a way where it makes me feel, you know, satisfied and, and, and I guess successful in a way.

Speaker B:

Manifesting dreams.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's what it's all about.

Speaker B:

I like that. How about mental health for you two ladies?

Speaker C:

Well, I hear that's nice. I have.

Speaker B:

I mean, just, you know, can you see how Neptune was trying to dissolve barriers and boundaries there? I don't know. I'm just asking.

Speaker A:

Well, for me, for me for sure. Because it did touch my, my Mercury and I mean destroyed me at one point.

I think, you know, I think I had a lot of, I think I had like these like rose colored glasses that were on really tight.

We had a conversation about this earlier and I, I'll tell you d. Basically what I told Paul because he kept insisting and finally I realized that, you know, Neptune's Transit through my 12 really was a dissolving of my ego.

You know, I, every, everything that I had, like, you know, like every little curiosity that entered my mind, I thought I would be the best at or I wanted to be the best at. But in reality, you know, it didn't quite get there, if that makes any sense.

I, I, I didn't quite go all the way because the moment that, you know, that I, the moment that I, I was going to get there, either something was shattered or there was like an ill, like I saw like the illusion for what it was or you know, I just wasn't interested anymore or it was just something that kind of like faded away. So for me personally, it felt like, like I had like an ego death over and over and over again.

You know, in, in, in, in, in multiple, in multiple fast, in multiple phases. First, you know, I wanted to be a business owner. So then I tried that. I wasn't good at it. Was this, and I pushed myself.

Speaker B:

Was this a 14 year journey of learning how to let stuff go?

Speaker A:

I think so.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That's, that's putting in, wait, letting stuff go that you may have been distorted.

Speaker C:

Really, really wanted this. But it's like, do I really want. Is it worth the stress? Is it worth the headache? Is it worth.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker C:

It's made me realize like I really would rather do readings and the podcast with you guys and have like a, you know, a freaking cheap hobby instead of this expensive ass hobby that doesn't pay its own bills right now or.

Speaker B:

Or just go to a regular job and when you check out, punch out. You ain't got to think about that place no more until you go back.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker C:

Like, it's not.

Speaker A:

Hey, I did it.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You did what?

Speaker A:

I went back to a regular job and I. And I fought and I fought hard against that, you know, because I. And I told everybody, oh, I'm gonna, You know, I'm gonna get out 9 to 5, you know.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah, like:

Speaker A:

It's not for everybody.

Speaker C:

You're wearing all of the hats. You have to play all of the parts or hire someone to play those parts, which means you have to have money in order to pay them. And it's just.

I don't know, it's just. It's so much, I think, is it.

Speaker B:

Kind of equivalent to buying yourself a job, but you're never off?

Speaker C:

Yeah, you're never off. I. I have nightmares about that place. Like, I can't even sleep to rest from it.

Speaker A:

Well, then. Then I. I will tell you this.

Speaker C:

The.

Speaker A:

I think you. I think you probably got further than I did. And I think if you're having nightmares, you're on the right track.

Speaker C:

Sure, maybe.

Speaker A:

Now, now, hold on one second.

Speaker C:

We have like, a lease, so that keeps us, like we. We took over the previous owner's lease. We had to sign up for a new lease, like, shortly thereafter. And we're getting.

We're coming toward the end of that lease. So, like, brick and mortar, like, you're in it. You can't give up. At least not until your lease is out, you know?

Speaker B:

Well, it not. It's interesting that you just said that because, well, as an Aries rising, Neptune's going into your first house.

And so when it comes to your body, your appearance, yourself, what do you think? Neptune is here to work on y' all for y' all for the next 14 years.

Speaker A:

Getting swole.

Speaker B:

Would it be.

Speaker C:

Maybe it's rebuilding our poor egos that have been sh. Probably because it's Aries. So that's like, you gotta.

Speaker A:

You.

Speaker C:

We gotta build up our ego, maybe rebuild some new disillusions to distract ourselves from the past.

Speaker B:

Whoa, whoa. Let's. Let's think about it. We. I went over. Period. The periods when Neptune went into. Went into. Was in Aries and traveled those 14 years.

And what do they have in common? Power struggles, strong and strong individuals, expansion through conflict, cultural shifts and advancing.

So how do you think for Aries rising that's going to show up for y'? All? Aries is the warrior, right? And you did bring up confidence. Do y' all believe because It's.

Neptune is connected to beliefs that you can be a warrior. Aries rising. Do you have warrior in you? Can you be that strong individual? Can you fight through conflict?

Speaker C:

Yeah, I kind of. You don't really have a choice, though.

Speaker A:

How do you feel like you do?

Speaker B:

What do you. How do you deal with cultural shifts?

Speaker C:

Let's just roll with the punches, right?

Speaker A:

It used to be anxiety keeps on trying me.

Speaker B:

Well, actually, Walter, now I'm glad you said that, because you don't think that the last 14 years was about you being. Learning how to deal with anxiety?

Speaker A:

Oh, 100%.

Speaker B:

That would be a 12th house thing.

Speaker C:

When it was moving through Pisces, you gotta roll with the waves. But now that it's moving into Aries, you gotta roll with the punches.

Speaker A:

Oh, I like that. I like that. I'm gonna write that down.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So barriers, boundaries. Hey, actual, you know.

Okay, now that y' all Aries risings, now that y' all dealt with self undoing and all of that stuff, is it time to lean into. Finally lean into being that warrior?

Speaker C:

Yeah. Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker C:

A lot of the Neptune through Pisces is. Was me saying, like, I don't. I can't do this. I don't know how to do this. And then having to do it. And then.

So once it moves into Aries, like, maybe, like, I'm starting to settle into the realization, like, I can do it. I have done it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna get done.

Speaker A:

You're 100.

Speaker C:

That be like, maybe you're more confident in your skills now, whereas before you weren't. Like before, you're more wishy washy and unsure of yourself. You don't have your footing.

And then by the time it rolls into Aries, like, your beliefs are, like, more concrete. You have a better idea of how to handle things, how to grab life by the horns. I guess, since it's a ram.

Speaker B:

I'm glad you said sure footing, because terror wise, do you know what card rep is? Neptune?

Speaker C:

I don't.

Speaker B:

The hangman.

Speaker A:

Ooh, I thought it was. Isn't that the fool? No.

Speaker C:

Isn't Jupiter the fool? I always associate, like, sad urine.

Speaker A:

Isn't Aries the fool?

Speaker B:

Uranus is the fool.

Speaker C:

And what.

Speaker A:

What, what card is Aries?

Speaker B:

The emperor.

Speaker C:

That makes sense.

Speaker B:

And Neptune is the hangman.

Speaker C:

Because, like, everything's up in the air. Like, you don't know. Like, nothing's for sure. Like, oh, I just thought of another thing that, like, me and Cody together have been dealing with that.

Like, I don't know if he wants me to say this on air, but, like, a lot of things have been up in the air for him. Like, say that like he's Libra rising.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah. So. So this. This Neptune has been going through his six house of daily routine and health and actually subordinates. People who work under me.

Slaves is the house of slaves.

Speaker C:

What if he is the subordinate?

Speaker B:

Well, hey.

Speaker A:

Well, I'm being.

Speaker B:

Well, he's at 29. Well, Neptune's at 29 degrees. He's about to turn into Nat Turner and have a slave revolt.

Speaker A:

That's right. A revolution.

Speaker C:

Oh, there you go, babe. Shout out to Cody. There's your. There's your forecast.

Speaker B:

Taurus rise. So. So Taurus rising. They about to do the.

The 14 years that y' all just finished of Neptune traveling through their 12th house of, you know, confined spaces. It's mysticism that is. Is also your connection to the universe as well as self undoing.

And so what would you say this 14 years of Neptune going through their 12th house for Taurus rising? Any words?

Speaker A:

Hold on tight. Don't let the bedbugs bite. Yeah, like, don't do drugs.

Speaker C:

Yeah, you're gonna want to do drugs.

Speaker A:

Don't die.

Speaker B:

I have a question for y'.

Speaker C:

All. Sorry we are so unscurious right now.

Speaker B:

I have a question for y'. All. Should Taurus Risings look into therapy?

Speaker C:

Everyone should look into therapy.

Speaker B:

No, but I hear you agreed.

Speaker C:

I'm just rising should look into therapy the most and Taurus sons.

Speaker B:

The reason I'm saying that is because. Let me ask you this, because Neptune just went through y' all 12th house.

Speaker C:

And so therapy was definitely a big part of my life for the first half, at least, or more of the 14 years that Neptune was in Pisces and in my 12th house. So, yeah, I think.

Speaker A:

Oh, no. My, my, my. Came like the last half of an activity. Pisces for therapy. Yeah, the second half.

Speaker B:

All right, so together the whole thing. Oh, no. I got a question for y' all now. Now that both of y'. All. I didn't know both of y' all went to therapy. Do you.

Do y' all think y' all would have made it through this 14 year transit without going to therapy?

Speaker A:

Oh, no, I'm still in therapy.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I didn't, like, quit therapy. I just kind of, like, haven't gone in a few years. Like, I don't know other.

I never meant to quit going, but I just felt like I was in a better place and that's what it's for. Right. Like to help you feel like you can tackle life on your own again.

Speaker B:

Well, wait, you just hit on it. So could this journey through the last 14 years was about y' all getting to a better place.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

In life as far as when you wake up in the morning. Yeah. Where you mentally.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And I feel like therapy is a, like, it's a like kind. You're not isolated. Like you're isolated with one person though.

And you're like discussing your belief systems and you're untangling the web in your mind, like kind of smooth things out and like figure out how to move forward or figure out who you are, figure out where you want to be or where you want to go. I guess it's different for everyone, of course, but like it's.

It's a very Pisces theme to face your emotions and put it all out there on the table with a safe person.

Speaker B:

So is Taurus Risings, are they gonna be hit with facing emotions and shadows?

Speaker C:

Yeah, absolutely. Because it's an Aries. Because like, I don't know, there might be some violent realizations there. Go ahead.

Speaker A:

Well, I, I actually wanted to. To circle back to that point and kind of talk about a little bit about the show shadow side.

I have here some of the shadow side of Neptune and Aries is escapist anger. So this could lead to false crusades or delusional conflict. I have spiritual ego, which is the.

I'm more awakened than you energy, impatience with boundaries, which is so on brand for Aries. Cuz Aries can be really impatient and misdirection of collective energy. Charismatic movements could rise without substance.

Speaker C:

Oh yeah. They're so impulsive.

Speaker B:

So what? What? So some Taurus rises, maybe they don't need therapy. Maybe they have done the work and now it's time for them to be the therapist.

Speaker C:

Mm.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I will say Placidus wise, my Saturn's in. In the 12th house. And my journey into learning astrology and. And my chart is. Was actually therapeutic for me as well.

So studying your own chart and all that, that, that was therapy for me. Moving on to my sign, Gemini Rising, which is the 11th house with which is friends and groups and connections. Right. And so boundaries.

Do you have proper boundaries with it with your friends and groups and connections?

And I'm pretty sure by the end of this 14 year journey of Neptune through Pisces, through Aries, I'm not sure you're gonna be connected with the same groups and people and friends.

Speaker C:

Yeah, there Might be. Go ahead.

Speaker A:

You. You could. I mean, I think you could, but maybe the dynamic changes.

Speaker C:

The first thing that came to my mind was like, friends with benefits because of the sexual Aries energy and Neptune blurring the lines between your friends and social connections.

Speaker A:

Oh, wow. Okay. Well, hello, Gemini Risings.

Speaker B:

So D. Are you saying I'm about to start a hippie commune?

Speaker C:

Maybe.

Speaker A:

It's possible.

Speaker C:

Possibility?

Speaker A:

He already has one. Hint, hint.

Speaker C:

Free love.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So when it comes to gemini risings. Oh, 11th house is also dreams and wishes.

Speaker C:

Maybe like taking action over your dreams and wishes and like putting those like into, I don't know, make making more of a drive.

Speaker B:

Trying to make making dreams come true. Hey, you have this dream, you've been dreaming about it. It's time to put action into it.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Putting some action behind. Like they're not dreams anymore. Like we're putting action behind it now.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

What about creating powerful allies that you think are powerful but actually end up not being powerful at all or powerful.

Speaker C:

Enough to destroy you and it's like not a good thing.

Speaker B:

Or don't go, go. I also could see as, hey, when you.

You're connected to a group and you ride, this is a 14 year journey of you rising to be to the top of that group, to the top of that group, the leader you. Yeah, yeah, it could be something like that. Cancer Rising. This going to put you have aries in your 10th House of Career reputation.

How you're seen in the outer world, people. And by the way, I use whole signs, so. And in whole sign. Yeah. The MC doesn't always fall in the 10th. Sometimes it could be an 11th and the night.

And so with that being said, how you seen in the outer world might not be how you. How you actually make your money. Oh, I should have added that. So, for instance, people know me. People know me as the astrology main. But that.

And that's my reputation. Because the 10th house is reputation. But astrology doesn't keep these lights on.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

So what I'm known for is not actually what I actually, actually do. And that is the difference between the. Your 10th house and your MC. And so.

Oh, so with Cancer rising, you know how somebody is like, they identify with their title? Yeah, Their title is them either. Either for Cancer Rising. I could see them either stepping into the title or. Hey, is this title really me?

Who are you?

Speaker C:

Who are you outside of your title? I was gonna say, like, uncertainty on your like, career path. Like something's gonna happen to blur those.

Speaker A:

Lines or maybe wanting to try something New. That you've never tried before.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Or for Cancer rise. And that could be rising to. To. To put your. Your Neptune energy, your spirituality out in the forefront.

Speaker A:

That should be interesting for cancer risings because it's such a feminine sign, and. And Neptune in Aries is such a.

Speaker C:

Masculine energy, and they're gonna have that square. They're rising, at least for some of that.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And you think about that now that you said that, Walter. Cancer rising is ruled by the moon, which is very emotional and temperamental, and so it's gonna. How do you.

How does some energy who is emotional and temperamental go out to. In the world and be the warrior? Put everything front and center.

Speaker A:

Exactly. That's a big question.

Speaker B:

All right. For Leo Rising, this is going to fall in the ninth house of higher learning. Belief, Philosophy in life, Foreign lands, publishing, justice, religion.

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Did you say that?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So some of this might have some overlap with the 12th house because, like, 12th is, like, more spiritual, whereas 9th is more like organized religion. So you might have, like, a blurring of the lines. And, like, what. What is your belief system? What is your philosophy?

Maybe traveling to foreign lands to figure that all out, too.

Speaker B:

Yeah. You. I could see Leo Rison's wrestling with beliefs and connections to traditional beliefs. You know, like the Catholic, the Muslim, the. The. The.

The big institutionalized stuff. Also education. Education. Yeah. Gender roles.

Speaker A:

Education or educating.

Speaker B:

Are your beliefs on sure footing, Leo Rising? Are you a conspiracy theorist?

Speaker C:

Because you're about to be.

Speaker B:

How many Leo Risings are flat earthers?

Speaker A:

Oh, God. Oh, God.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

So not the. Not the F word. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Boundaries. Hey, it could be even your connection to foreigners. You could be someone. Leo Rising. Are you someone who only stayed with your kind?

And now it's time for you to break away from the pack and go see what's out there.

Speaker A:

It's interesting you say that.

Speaker B:

Why is that?

Speaker A:

I don't know. Some. Something just came to mind.

Speaker B:

A penny for your thoughts.

Speaker A:

You know what? I'm gonna keep that penny.

Speaker B:

You know, Walter, this one's interesting. Virgo Rising. It's in the eighth house. It falls in your eighth house of shared assets, deep bonded relationships, Death. Your.

Your attitude toward death, your attitude towards sex, your. How do you look at Taboo?

Speaker C:

I just. I don't think we've said anything about confusion yet with Neptune.

Speaker B:

Well, we did, so.

Speaker C:

I mean, we said, like, disillusion and fancy and, like. But, like, I feel like confusion holds a different weight, and I don't know why. It just came to me now with, like, neptune in the 8th.

And like, I don't know, just. I just thought of like, confusion about like, death and taxes and stuff.

Speaker B:

Well, Walter, earlier today you had a conversation with a Virgo rising. And, and, and a conversation came up about deep bonded relations. Their approach in deep bonded relationships that could have taken a.

Would you hypocritical stance with inside a deep bonded relationship. And so when it comes to Virgo rising, what do you think this visit of Neptune through their eighth house could be about?

Speaker A:

Well, if we go based off of the conversation that I had, let's see. This person is probably going to listen to this.

Speaker C:

How much can. Without giving it away.

Speaker A:

I know, right? I. I think, you know, I think. And, and I'm going to circle back to what D said.

You know, the eighth house is a really like, deep, dark house in a way. You know, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad, you know, because it's. It's deep or dark. It's just, it's. It's a lot. It's.

It's intense energy because it is the topic of death, because it is the topic of. Of. Of intimate bonds. So a lot of things there are felt very intensely. So I think like, Neptune going into here can definitely confuse someone.

And, and now that, now that we're there with that word, I. I'm reminded of what you said to this person that. And, and I'm reminded that they. They are literally going through a Neptune through the seventh transit.

And I'm reminded that they don't know how confusing they may seem to other people. So, so that was like, basically what, what, what the conversation was kind of about earlier today.

So I imagine that, you know, this Transit through the 8th for Virgo risings might be a little bit intense.

I wonder if, you know, if it might like, blur some lines when it comes to like, intimate relationships, maybe certain relationships that, that they should not get into or that they should get into. And maybe they're not sure because, you know, Neptune does cause a lot of disillusionment and a lot of distortion.

Then also, on the other hand, like, this is also shared resources. Like, do you have, you know, joint resources with someone? Money, businesses, you know, like, what's, what's happening is, is somebody.

Could somebody be stealing your money?

Could somebody be, you know, acting like a, like, like, like a, like a very masculine, you know, warrior, Aries Martian type of person with your resources and you don't know.

Speaker B:

Yeah. All right, but then on a.

It could take the other side and, and be like, all right, this person never did allow themselves to deeply bond with somebody. And, and now, now that Neptune is there is the dissolving that barrier that they had. And they may start allowing someone in.

Speaker A:

Well, you know, to get to, to. To kind of like hone in on. On the point. Point I was trying to make earlier today. Hopefully, you know, for the Virgo risings.

Hopefully, you know, they're not met with a, with a taste of their own medicine when it comes to, you know, who, who they have this deep bonded relationship with.

Because imagine, you know, you're going through life and you meet someone or, or you fall in love with someone and it just turns out to be someone that doesn't play by your rules.

Speaker B:

That one just hit home.

Speaker C:

Oh no.

Speaker B:

Well, I know another Virgo rising, so that's why. Right, Moving on. Libra Rising. Right, so Libra Rising, you're about to have Neptune journey through your seventh house of relationships. Right?

So when it comes to relationships and business contracts, barriers and boundaries that you have, that's preventing you from reaching your dreams in a way, what has to dissolve? What do you need to be more warrior? Like going, going out there to create the wave of success.

Speaker A:

You know, what has to dissolve for Libra Risings?

Speaker B:

What's that?

Speaker A:

They're indecision.

Speaker C:

Serious.

Speaker B:

Oh, oh. Now that you're saying that, what about for Libra Rising? What may need to dissolve is your belief on fairness.

Speaker A:

Justice.

Speaker C:

They always want to make things fair for them. Like they have.

Like they come in under the guise of like, let's make everything fair for everyone, but they always like, tilt it in like their own favor.

Speaker B:

Well, I have a question for you now, D. About the belief of fairness. Is the world fair?

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker C:

It depends on who's. Whose eyes you're looking through. Right? Like the Creator would look at it and be like, yeah, I, I made everything fair.

But no, life isn't fair because that's how we learn our lessons here on Earth. Right?

Speaker B:

So is. Is. Is leap someone with Libra energy? Libra son, Libra Rising. I know a bunch of that. Like to stay on the fence.

Could it they be living in fairy tale land when they try to harp on fairness?

Speaker C:

Yeah, I guess they have that in common with Pisces. Like Pisces lives in a dream world fantasy.

And Libra also is like, it's kind of a dream world fantasy where everyone gets along and is treated equally and everything's fair all the time and nothing is ever fair really.

Speaker B:

Oh, well, you just reminded me of something. Now for Aries Rising with. And what you just said that with Pisces. Is it, is it time to stop self sacrificing and being the war and, and.

And think for the self and be the worry?

Speaker A:

Hell yeah. I'm all for that.

Speaker B:

You know, self sacrificing in a way.

Speaker A:

That was what the last 14 years were about. And that, that is, that is a lot of what Neptune does too. It's. It's the, it's the ability to sacrifice.

And you sent us this thing that I was reading earlier. And if I may, I'm gonna just read this line out loud because it really stood out to me. It said, Neptune works by persuasion, never pressure.

It is called the cosmic Santa Claus. There is a secret hidden in sacrifice. The more you give yourself away, the more you have to give.

Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and all else shall be added unto you is as true today as it was 2,000 years ago. The cosmic laws never change. That really stood out to me because.

Speaker B:

Of sacrifice and bring the last 14 years or even longer than that. How much did I sack sacrifice and, and putting energy into someone else's company. I self sacrifice my, my stuff. My you know, creative energy.

Putting it in. Into that stuff. 14 years and all that. But you know, I'm not bitter about it.

Speaker A:

Well, you, you certainly acquired skills from that. So.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Which would go to what you just said. As far as being Santa Claus, bringing skills and gifts.

Speaker C:

I think that, that sacrifice. I think that Libra rising. If they're looking to get married soon, it's not going to happen.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker C:

Just like the wedding day is going to keep getting pushed out and out and out and out.

Speaker B:

But. Okay. But somebody that is in. In. In a relationship, a long term relationship.

Speaker C:

Already married.

Speaker B:

Yeah, already. This could be the, the. The delusion disinvolvement or what I'm trying to say. Disenvironment of the, of the relationship.

Hey, I thought this relationship was this, but it's not. It's not what I thought.

Speaker A:

Mm.

Speaker B:

You know, and coming to terms like.

Speaker C:

Maybe secrets coming out.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I, I would also add, especially for this one.

Speaker C:

Oh.

Speaker A:

And also for the eighth house, I would, I would raise a concern, not to freak anybody out, but I would raise a concern of like, you know, like domestic violence type of abuse.

Speaker B:

As far as powerful individual, you know.

Speaker A:

Right. Yeah. So yeah.

As far as Neptune and Aries, like you know, maybe like interacting with people that, that you know, are coming across individuals that, that, that can be a little bit like too strong and, and could abuse Their power.

Speaker B:

Now that you saying that like a Libra rising female thinking that she's attracted to the, the machismo.

Speaker A:

Huh.

Speaker B:

And, and, and, and have to figure out the reality of dealing with somebody with that machismo attitude.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah. Because Neptune is. It can be sneaky, it can manipulate, and in Aries, it can be violent.

Speaker A:

All right, that's, that's what I'm. I'm worried about the violence.

Speaker B:

All right. Scorpio rising. Neptune's gonna be traveling through your sixth house daily routine. Health.

Speaker C:

Confusion and uncertainty about your health and your routine and maybe your job.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Changing career path or changing your job. I guess it's not really much career if it's a sixth house, but like maybe changing career, but just changing jobs.

Speaker B:

For some Scorpio horizons. Like I said, it's the house of slaves. So what if you are working on. Under somebody who is treating you like a slave? Maybe I was.

Maybe now it's time to stay. Stand up and be the warrior throughout your day.

Speaker C:

Stand up for what you believe in at work.

Speaker B:

Yeah. You know, some Scorpio rises could have. Need to learn how to walk in that warrior spirit. Maybe join a union throughout the day.

No, as far as like, you know, not walk. Go through their day fearful, scared of the world. Because Neptune is fear. What, what daily.

What fears that you deal with that's holding you back on a daily basis and, and, and through your routines and stuff like that. Hey, good. Fear create a health problem.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it absolutely can. I got a question for you though. Is Neptune a malefic planet?

Speaker A:

I think it's neither.

Speaker C:

I kind of.

Speaker A:

It's not. It's not a traditional rulership.

Speaker C:

So it doesn't.

Speaker B:

Well, well, it depends. Yes. Well, yes, it could be if you, if you lean into the. If you lean into the shadow of Neptune.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but, but, but, but technically, yeah, technical. It's not under like the traditional.

Speaker C:

The Saturn and Mars are malefic and Venus and Jupiter. Jupiter benefic. I could have put Neptune as like the opposite. Like, since Pisces and SAG are originally under Jupiter.

Like, I mean, SAG would be the positive side and Pisces would be the negative side. So like, I always. I will see Neptune was like, like it's gonna bring misfortune no matter if you.

Speaker B:

That's why I asked if you, if you had the. All right. If you had to force me to answer and give you an answer.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I would lean toward benefic because it.

Speaker C:

Is said transcending, like it brings misfortune. So that you can transcend into a higher spiritual being.

Speaker B:

Because it is said that Neptune is the higher octave of Venus.

Speaker C:

Okay, yeah, that's true.

Speaker B:

And Venus is a benefit. Yeah.

Speaker A:

I, I, I actually want to point out something about the fear because I know that, I know that it's in that book and, and that's something that, you know, that's one of Neptune's characteristics. But Pisces is fearful and Neptune can bring fear. So Neptune and Pisces can create a lot of fear, but Aries is not fearful. Aries is foolishly brave.

Yeah. So I imagine that Neptune and Aries. Yeah, like there could be some fear, but it's, it's all, it's almost like, like the Aries.

Yeah, it's almost like the Aries energy will, will like rise above it and like overcome it, I think.

Speaker B:

Oh, oh. Or could you say that would be leaning into your fear.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Facing fears.

Speaker A:

Yeah, facing fears, definitely.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah. So Scorpio Rising. Hey, on, on a daily basis as you go through your day, how are you going to be facing your fears? Sagittarius Rising.

This, Neptune's going to be falling. Traveling through your fifth house of kids. Hobbies, short love, relationships, creativity, speculation, fun. It's the fun house.

And so I feel like this is.

Speaker C:

A really creative spot for them.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Because actually Neptune is connected to artists.

And so either this could be, this could be a 14 year journey into connecting to your spiritual, to your creativity.

Speaker C:

Your creativity and your spirituality. Maybe like creativity through your spirituality.

Speaker B:

Yeah. What would what Sagittarius Rising. What is your approach to love relationships? What is your belief and outlook on kids? Your approach.

Hey, some, depending on the age of Sagittarius Rising, some of them could, could have taken the approach, I don't want kids. And so this Neptune trip through some Sagittarius energy could be dissolving that barrier.

And next thing you know, by the end of this 14 year journey, you sitting up there with two kids and a dog and a white picket fist.

Speaker A:

And you sounds like someone you know.

Speaker C:

Sagittarius Rising. It's in the cards for you.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

Stars in this scenario, not the cards.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So. Oh, so could it be facing fears.

Speaker C:

Oh, facing your fears about having kids.

Speaker B:

Wait, now that just said that. It also could be about facing some of the fears that you had during your childhood.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah, I like that.

Speaker B:

And for some of you, Sagittarius Rising, it could be connecting with the child within to bring out your creativity. Y' all said I got there.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I got, yeah, I like that.

Speaker B:

All right, let's keep it moving. Capricorn Rising.

Speaker C:

Another square here.

Speaker B:

Yeah, this is. Yeah, it's gonna fall in your fourth house of home. Family roots, connections to family, emotional body. Anyone.

Speaker A:

You're. You're the mother.

Speaker B:

So do you have proper. Do you. Does. Is there barriers and boundaries to your connection to your mother?

Speaker A:

Is the connection to the mother toxic or to the family?

Speaker B:

This also has to do with family karma.

Speaker C:

Yeah. I feel like this is going to be a hard time for Capricorn Risings.

Speaker B:

What went on in the family home? How do you approach your home? And things that go on in your home are there. Hey, for some. With Aries.

With Aries in the four, you know, there could have been violence in the home or tension with Aries there. And. And this. This could be about, you know, erasing or trying to face the tensions in the home and family. Karma.

Speaker C:

Maybe it's like coming out of the fog from all that.

Speaker B:

Oh, I like that.

Speaker A:

Or I. I would say. I would say also, like, you know, I. I don't know if you mentioned this, but tensions and. And arguments, you know, or physical altercations. Physical.

Physicality. Maybe in a way, silence.

Speaker B:

How do you approach emotions? How do y' all deal with emotions? With. Inside the home and connecting to.

Speaker A:

How do you deal with the emotions inside your body? Like, do you, you know, if you're angry, do you. Do you take a walk? Do you work out, exercise, you know, like, take up a sport? Like, that's another.

That's another big one.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah. All right, two more. Aquarius Rising. This. This is falling in your third of communication. Neighborhood, the lower mind and siblings.

Connections to siblings. Barriers and boundaries and fears with. With sibling learning how to speak, communicate. Leaning into. Do. Do you speak with clear pictures? Do you paint?

Speaker C:

Do you speak with clarity?

Speaker B:

The clarity. Look, look here. I'm sitting up here talking about speaking with clarity, and I can't get the words out.

Speaker C:

Words are hard.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah. When I say the lower mind, what comes to. To my.

Speaker C:

The lower mind? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Gossip.

Speaker B:

I'm glad you said that because you know what? The third house is? Lower education. Hey, Aquarius Rising. What went on in high school for you?

Speaker A:

Well, if this is in the future, they're not going to have a department of education.

Speaker B:

Well, I'm just. Okay, but think about, think about, think about high school.

Speaker A:

Not everybody.

Speaker B:

High school was not Disneyland for everybody. It could have been a lot of traumatic that went on at high school for Aquarius Rising. Connections to groups and friends.

And did people communicate with you or was you the person, the silent person in the lunchroom, sitting by themselves or.

Speaker A:

Maybe like, dropping out of school, you know, or just not. Not having like a. Like a regular education like everyone else.

Speaker B:

Could you see some Aquarius rising? Going back to school?

Speaker C:

Going back to.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Or.

Speaker A:

Yeah. No.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Either way.

Speaker A:

I just. I just had a text message from. From one that we know, Paul, saying that she was thinking of getting a PhD.

Speaker C:

Are they being delusional about that?

Speaker A:

I mean, or are they.

Speaker C:

Or do they have the gumption now that it's. Now that Neptune's gonna be in Aries to go through with it?

Speaker A:

Maybe, you know.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they learned. They leaning into being a warrior, facing it.

Speaker C:

Now that I think about it, Aries is not a finisher. They're a starter, but not a finisher.

Speaker A:

That's true.

Speaker C:

Like start a new belief system, but that doesn't necessarily, like, mean that you'll see it all the way through or stick to it in the end. But I mean, we could all use some change and like, I don't know, just get different perspectives on things, like, in any area of life.

Speaker B:

All right. And last but not least, Pisces rising. This Aries is gonna fall in your second house. Neptune's. And so Neptune just went through their first house.

And so now what comes to mind is the self.

And if you was disillusioned with self and you just had a 14 year journey of getting back on your footing, second house could be about having confidence in that self that you found in.

Speaker A:

These last 14 years as valuing yourself more.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Mm. Knowing. Knowing what your value. You know, knowing what value you bring to the table, like going after the.

Speaker C:

Things that you want.

Speaker B:

Well, Walter, you know, you. Some people, you may have triggered some people right there. Yeah, some people get triggered when you. When you say, what.

What do you bring to the table?

Speaker A:

But I always have a hard time with the second house, so.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So in all actuality, you know, Pisces rising in the next 14 years, what are you going to be bringing to the table?

Speaker C:

I think that's going to be like figuring out how to get what you want. Whether that's like, you know, a value, a belief, like something like physical and concrete or something like more.

Speaker A:

Abstract. I think. I think it's gonna be. I think something.

Speaker C:

Sorry.

Speaker A:

I think it could. No, it's okay. I think it could be something like. Like being the leader at the table.

Speaker B:

What. What is your attitude toward money? Is it time to be the worry, to go out there and get that bag.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Or take more risks, you know, take risks with money, you know, have be more. I mean, in a way Aries can. Hopefully not. No bankruptcies.

You know, I know Aries, I go into that.

Speaker B:

But also. All right, also for someone we. We thinking young, young Pisces rising. For an older Pisces rising.

Who could have been took that Aries right route with money and finances. Right. This could be them finding out that, oh, money doesn't buy happiness and that, that older Pisces rising.

This could be a 14 year journey of them becoming a minimalist.

Speaker C:

I like that.

Speaker A:

Definitely something new to try.

Speaker B:

Or one of them survival, you know, living off the land.

Speaker A:

Or maybe be. Or maybe being too wild, you know. Because, because, because remember Aries. Aries is impulsive.

Speaker C:

With your cash.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Like impulse, impulse buying, you know, like, like be careful at the mall, you know, or like, you know, maybe you go, you go out one day and you come back and you have a seven acre farm and, and you don't know what, what you got to do to take care of that seven acre farm.

Speaker C:

Like blurring the lines between incoming and outgoing money.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Not not knowing how to do your bookkeeping. Everybody. If you need a bookkeeper.

Speaker B:

When the wave, when the wave of money does come in, what are you going to do to make sure that wave doesn't wash out the money?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

Huh? So, yeah. With that being said, Any final thoughts on Neptune? Come traveling through Aries, beginning this journey through Aries.

Speaker C:

Just be conscience. Neptune likes to confuse and muddy the waters. So I don't know, don't drink too much.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker A:

,:

So it's going to go into Aries. And then a few, you know, a few weeks, months later, it'll, it'll start its retrograde.

,:

Speaker C:

So get ready.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it'll be an interesting time. Personally, I think I foresee a lot of changes, like politically, globally, socially.

You know, I think like, I think our country is going to undergo a lot of changes. For a while now, I've been, I've been concerned because you know, you think of Aries and you think of a fight.

So I, I've been concerned that like, you know, what if, what if there's a war? Like, you know, what if, what if there's violence? You know, like, what if you have to like, like flee? Things like that.

So I'm hoping that that's not the case. I'm hoping that it's still going to be, you know, very transformative. But overall it's, it, it's gonna be, it's gonna be different.

It's just completely, you know, new territory. It's masculine energy. It's, it's impulsive energy. It is, it's in a way, I mean it's kind of like it is like, like a fool, like a kid.

It's, it's new energy because you know, Aries does represent that, that sort of like newborn energy, you know. So, so, so there is going to be a lot of newness.

You know, I, I wouldn't be surprised on like new technology and, and you know, like, like a variety of novelty. But I, my concern would be like how, how far does that go? How long will it last? You know, like what are, what are the repercussions of that energy?

Speaker B:

All right, well. For me is nep. Should we fear? Well, dealing with this Neptune energy, it may have you feeling like you are hanging on a limb.

And, and what do I mean by that? You bringing up some of the key words. Chaos, fantasy, delusion, fear, self indulgence. Right.

To really deal with Neptune energy, you have to be able to truly look yourself in the mirror and be accountable for that area. Right. Am I, and be able to ask yourself, am I actually being fearful? Is this fear warranted? Am I living in the fantasy land?

Is, is what I'm thinking and, and, and, and believing? Is that actually, you know, reality based thinking? But you know, it's also devotion.

Can you be devoted to something or is, is your devotion, Aries energy unsustainable?

Speaker A:

Yeah. You're devoted for like a second and then you're not. Can you be devoted to a cause?

Speaker B:

Yeah. And not. And since you brought that up, if you do devote to a cause, are you prepared to sacrifice? Because what did you say about Santa Claus?

The, the, remember that saying, the cosmic Santa Claus? Yeah.

Speaker A:

That there's a, there's, there's a secret hidden in, in sacrifice.

Speaker B:

But sacrifice is scary. I mean, you ever heard of the sacrificial. Sacrificial lamb? Yeah, we all want to eat lamb chops, but nobody want to be the lamb.

Speaker C:

Or no one wants to be the one to slaughter it too.

Speaker A:

Good point.

Speaker B:

So. Who when I we went through these rising signs as Neptune enters that area.

Hey I know it's gonna this this for next journey and it's gonna feel like you hanging on a limb. It's gonna be feel like you don't have sure footing and if I bring in what everything else that's going on with the reset we just had.

We got Venus and we're about to have an Aries party going on.

Speaker A:

I can't wait.

Speaker B:

We're about to have the last eclipse in the Aries Libra seat series coming up. And so and. And that's going to be. I think Neptune's gonna be it have entered into Aries with this eclipse. It.

I have to check with this last eclipse also. One of the things I I talked about in one of my other videos is you know Neptune, Mercury and Venus is retrograde and it's. It's. It's.

It's gonna hit Neptune at 29 degrees on it on as a retrograde but only way back direct they go and hit Neptune at 0 degrees and so is this a resetting of how we approach communication and thinking about dreams and and to add Venus we value when loved ones right. Are we. Is this a reset of. Of what being what we devoted to what we connected to what we are inspired by. We.

We also talked about the generational planets shifting. Pluto shifted. Neptune's about to shift. Uranus is going to shift pretty soon. Uranus the rule of.

I mean Uranus is in Taurus which is the in bringing back Venus. So a resetting of dreams and wishes and how we think and approach the reality of those dreams and wishes. Could be this next 14 years.

Speaker A:

I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker B:

Well, it's hard to look behind you. If you look behind you, you're going to run into the wall.

Speaker A:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker B:

So with that being said, D, good seeing you again.

Speaker C:

Good seeing you too. Thanks for having me on. As always.

Speaker B:

Walter, thank you for the Mercury retrograde reversal of roles.

Speaker C:

I like it.

Speaker B:

I want to thank everybody for joining us. You know how I end this? Know thyself. Balance your energy.

Speaker A:

Peace.

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