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The Circle and the Kite
Episode 120th April 2023 • A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond • Sabine Wilms PhD
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In this inaugural session of the podcast, my co-conspirator Leo Lok and I introduce our new podcast by comparing it to two activities: flying a kite and completing a circle. Find out how we use these two metaphors to explore different directions for future conversations, such as:

  • the fertile relationship between oral lineage transmission and textual transmission, between Heaven and Earth, and between planting ourselves in solid ground and catching the wind of inspiration to fly high;
  • the parallels between Buddhist transmission from India to China many centuries ago and the current transmission of Chinese medicine to the West;
  • our vision of collaboration in the creative pursuit of academic and clinical knowledge;
  • the importance of honoring the "voices of our medical ancestors" (in Leo's beautiful phrase); and
  • the challenges in translating and communicating what is ultimately the inexpressible wisdom of the ancient Chinese sages.

As you can see, we have an endless repertoire of topics, to pursue and rope our wise friends into discussing with us!

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