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How To Plan Your Coaching Year
Episode 39 • Bonus Episode • 15th January 2025 • Coaching Clinic: scale your business, acquire high ticket clients & master coaching skills • John Ball & Angela Besignano
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High Performance Goal Setting for the New Year

Summary

In this episode, John and Angie discuss their approach to goal setting rather than traditional New Year's resolutions. They talk about the importance of creating specific, achievable goals and how to break them down into manageable steps. They touch on the value of reflection, the necessity of understanding one's 'why,' and the importance of adaptability and flexibility. The conversation also covers the need for personal and professional balance, the benefits of delegating tasks outside one's zone of genius, and the idea of rewarding oneself for achieving milestones. Additionally, they highlight the significance of having accountability partners or coaches and the relevance of incorporating service and contribution goals. The episode is filled with practical advice and motivational insights to start the year on the right note.

Takeaways

Happy New Year!

Annual goal setting is preferred over resolutions.

Resolutions often lack specificity and become unrealistic.

Creating awareness around goals is crucial for success.

Setting specific objectives leads to better motivation.

Reflection on past goals helps in planning future ones.

Delegation can free up time for more important tasks.

Understanding your 'why' is essential in goal setting.

Visualization can inspire and motivate towards goals.

Don't wait for perfection to take action. Motivation is temporary and needs to be renewed regularly.

Accountability partners or coaches are essential for goal achievement.

Setting specific, measurable goals is crucial for success.

Regular check-ins on progress help keep you on track.

Choosing your challenges wisely can lead to better outcomes.

You must embody the person you want to become now, not later.

Experience is the best teacher; practical action leads to learning.

Celebrating milestones is important for motivation and morale.

Finding balance between work and play is essential to avoid burnout.

Service and contribution can enhance personal goals and accountability.

Chapters

00:00 New Year's Resolutions and Goal Setting

01:36 The Importance of Specific Goals

04:40 Breaking Down Goals into Manageable Steps

06:08 Personal vs. Professional Goals

09:01 Reflecting on Past Successes and Failures

11:43 Delegation and Outsourcing

17:07 Accountability and Consistency

27:48 Finding Your Own Productivity Formula

28:51 Overcoming Mental Roadblocks

30:11 Becoming the Person You Need to Be

31:52 The Importance of Practical Experience

34:46 Balancing Inner and Outer Goals

38:16 Celebrating Achievements and Avoiding Burnout

44:58 The Power of Play and Balance

46:46 Wrapping Up and Looking Ahead

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Angie:

John,

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John: Angie,

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Angie: Happy New Year.

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John: Happy New Year to you

too, and to our listeners!

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Angie: Did you set any

New Year's resolutions?

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John: No, I prefer to do annual goal

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setting instead.

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Angie: Yeah, same here.

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In fact, I wonder if our listeners

might like to join us in that.

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John: Oh, I think they might.

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Hang on, let

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me ask them.

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Hello, listener.

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Would you like to join us for a

session on high performance goal

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setting to get the year started right?

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Angie: What do they say?

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John: Let's see, let's have a look.

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Yes, hell yes, get on with it.

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What's the best way to keep yourself

entertained on long coach rides?

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Sorry, we're not that

kind of coaching podcast.

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Yes.

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Okay, we'll take that as a green light.

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Angie: Awesome.

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Let's get to it.

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John: Let's do that.

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Angie: Yeah, so it's that time of

the year, I know we're a little

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into the new month, the new year,

but it's like the time, everybody

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goes, let me get excited about these

resolutions, which we've talked about.

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I'm not a big believer in a resolution.

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That doesn't work for me.

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And I think it doesn't

work for most people.

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John: I think one of the reasons why

it probably doesn't work for most

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people is that most of us have had

that experience of maybe creating those

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resolutions and probably not having

them last more than a couple of days

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or a couple of weeks into the new year.

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And That's disheartening, which is

one of the reasons why it's better,

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just better, just not to do them.

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But I do think any sort of significant

point in your life or in the year and

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the new year is one of those is a good

opportunity to at least reevaluate your

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goals if you're already on your way

with them, or if you haven't got clear

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goals set out for yourself right now to

start doing that and thinking about how

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you want the rest of the year to look,

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Angie: Absolutely.

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I think creating awareness around

what you want is important.

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I think it's just like any

goal that you set for yourself.

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If you're going to take a journey, you're

going to take a trip, there's a map.

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There's a way that you're

going to get there.

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I always refer to an actual map

because people get the visual.

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And I'm like, where's that red pin going?

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What is the goal?

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If you want to go from like New

York to California, then put the

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pin in where you want to go because

You have to work that backwards.

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How are you really going to get there?

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I think resolutions become a little

bit more pie in the sky and I think

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you know many of us and you've

probably experienced this personally

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or with clients that a lot of their

Resolutions are the same ones year

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after year like I'm gonna lose weight.

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I'm gonna get healthy I'm gonna go to the

gym And they don't work because there's

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no or little map process kind of a thing.

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John: Yeah, I think there's

a lack of specificity

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to those kinds of things as well,

which is a problem I do regular group

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coaching and one of the things that

I notice comes up that there's a big

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difference between the people on

those coaching calls who have nice

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specific Objectives that they want

to hit and they're clear goals and

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you can think you know You would

definitely know when you've hit

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that goal and then there's people who have

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vague Goals of oh, I want to grow

Professionally, I think it's one

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I had just this week or I want to

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I just want to be more.

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I want to

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have more.

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I want to earn more

money Like these are not

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specific enough really

to be that motivation.

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I was like how much more money do

you really want to have how much?

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What would that even

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look like?

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You do need to be able

to ask yourself, how

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will I know when I have hit

where hit the goal that I want

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to hit, or at least we'll be able to note

a milestone or a point where, which shows

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me that I'm moving in the right direction.

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Angie: I think we, first of all,

I think we need that anyway.

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I think it's important for everybody

to realize even coaches for themselves.

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It's that those little dopamine

hits are what keep you going, right?

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So it's easiest with weight loss.

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For example, if somebody says I want to

lose 25 pounds it's great to be like,

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all right, I want to lose it But by

when do you have some did you assign

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something because I could say I want to

lose 25 pounds In the next five years.

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That changes the scope of how

I'm going to approach it, right?

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That's five pounds a year, right?

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But if I want to lose 25 pounds in

the next just say 12 months What

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does that then equate to this way?

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I'm aware of what those little goals need

to be along the way and When I hit those

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goals it is going to give me the boost

I need You want to keep going, right?

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It's a little mini goal, and

although somebody might pooh

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Oh what's the difference?

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A pound is nothing.

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Pennies equals dollars.

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I don't care what you say.

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One pound, eventually, when you

compound it over time, is going

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to turn into those 25 pounds.

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You're not losing 25 pounds overnight.

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It's not happening, right?

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Yeah, it's important

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John: let me ask you, Angie,

when you're planning your year,

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cause then we both do this.

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We've talked about it, which is

why we wanted to do this episode.

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Yeah.

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How do you start that process?

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And what does it look like?

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Angie: I definitely decipher between

my personal and my professional

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goals without a doubt, right?

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Some of my personal goals are very

different than, and some of them

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cross over, but I literally think

about is there a need versus a want?

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And that's important because,

I have to figure out my why,

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like why is this important?

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I don't just willy nilly go, Oh,

I want to make 300, 000 this year.

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Okay, but is there a reason for that?

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Why?

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Why do I want that?

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Versus why isn't it just 100, 000?

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So I get very deep into, and you

know this, I'm a big processor.

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I get big into my why so that I

can actually decide whether that

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even should be a goal or not.

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Is, or is something going to get

in the way of my real priorities?

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So I do that first and then when

I write down like three I, I think

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sometimes we overburden ourselves with

way too many goals, way too many goals.

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So I really break it down then

to like the top three in each of

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those categories, the personal, the

professional and set them right now.

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I've got my why is this important

to me and that there is necessity

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because I'm not going to do

anything without necessity.

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Okay.

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Being a component and now, then I can

get into the how am I going to get there?

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So that's the baseline of where I begin.

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John: Yeah, I look for where do I

want to be around this time next year?

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What would I like to be different?

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What needs some work on what are some

of the things that maybe I need to stop

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doing and what are some of the things

that I need to start doing that are going

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to ultimately support me in these goals.

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And so I do think about it at least

initially from that beginning.

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Bigger perspective about the general

journey that I'm on the year ahead.

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And then I pull it back to

the first quarter because I

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don't think realistically we

can plan too far beyond that.

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And I would think, okay this is the

first quarter I look at my, like

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yourself, I do this professionally

and personally look at my.

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Personal goals for the next quarter.

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What the, what are the priorities?

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What are the things I really must

focus on and that are important

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to me that I've decided I want

this I'm clear on why I want it.

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And then do that same with

my professional goals.

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I do the same with my

professional goals as well.

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It makes it so much easier to

start breaking stuff down because

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then, I use planners and stuff.

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Then I can start transposing that

stuff into my planner and start

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looking at it from a monthly overview.

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And then from weekly overviews, then Much

easier to figure out the day to day What

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needs to be happening day to get you to

your end golden and I love that Starting

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from the end backwards work from the end

backwards reverse engineer the whole thing

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Angie: Yeah.

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And you know what, the other thing that

I started to do, and this is in recent

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years, Which is so funny because I've done

this while consulting for companies like,

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what works what doesn't so I actually

now will reflect on the year prior or

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two And say, you know what are my habits?

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Like what really is working

for me and what isn't.

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And that's just part of getting

to know yourself as an individual.

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And in this case for

me as a business owner.

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So for example, this is the first year

that I have employed an assistant.

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And I just have to say, by the way,

what a game changer that was for me.

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So anybody who already has an

assistant might be like, hello,

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duh, welcome to the party.

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But it was something that I resisted

because I'm the one man band now.

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I don't really, I didn't want to

give up, not necessarily the control,

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but I was like, I have the mindset.

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If I can do it myself,

I should do it myself.

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And that was a mindset thing.

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So once I got past the mindset piece,

I was like let me ease into this.

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Let me do a couple of hours a

week and let me see how it goes.

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No contracts.

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I don't want any of that.

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So I had to find something that made

it okay so that I could have that

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exit strategy if it wasn't working.

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So guess what?

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You know this.

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I've said it to you for

a couple of months now.

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Like it's changed.

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my life.

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Love it.

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I'm like, why did I not?

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Because I didn't really know any better.

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And so what did I know about myself?

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I cannot stand administrative work.

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I hate it with a passion and

I'm never going to like it.

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I think I know that.

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My birthday's coming up at 56 years.

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I think I know.

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I hate administrative work and why not

hire somebody who's much more proficient.

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And isn't wasting time.

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And now I honestly, I'm going a

little crazy with this, but that's

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I've been reborn in my business.

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Now I'm excited about my business again.

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Because I'm focusing on the

things that I'm really good at.

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So that was me.

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That may not be somebody else's

experience, but part of me being honest

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with myself was what do I, what am I

really good at and where do I suck?

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And not that I suck at

administration, but I don't love it.

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And it was way too time consuming and it

made me not want to do a lot of things.

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And it left no room for

creativity, I feel or little room.

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We need to have those conversations

with ourselves and be honest and

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say, What works, what doesn't?

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What, where am I great,

and where am I not so good?

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And how can I delegate?

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John: I love what one of my business

mentors says, which always stays in my

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mind, that as a business owner, as a coach

and a business owner, your goal should

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be ultimately to hand off anything that

is not your zone of genius to someone

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else, even if you can do it, even if

you're okay at all, even good at it.

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There's probably someone you could

hire who's actually that is their zone

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of genius And you're always going to

be better off handing those things

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on focusing on where your areas of

genius are the stuff that you need

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stuff that you love doing and that

you want to spend your time doing

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and Give the other things to someone

else who can do them better than you

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Angie: Excuse something.

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Oh, John, I'm putting you

in the hot seat right now.

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This might not even make it to the air.

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John: Might cut this out

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Angie: You might.

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Don might cut this out completely.

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But, so here's the thing.

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You know how to do, you

know how to build a website.

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John: Yes

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Angie: So let me ask you a question.

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How long has your new website

been taking you to build and

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get going and put out there?

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John: Several months

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Angie: Three?

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John: No, more two, two and a half months

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Since I actually bought the website and

worked on the domain is more or less.

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Angie: So let me ask you this, and this

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because you know how to do it, right?

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If you had said to somebody, build my

website, and these are the parameters.

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Do you think that would

have been published by now?

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John: I'm going to say no.

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And the reason is the same reason

that it's not published yet.

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Although.

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It very soon will be because you've been

on my case about it but that it was the

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content that needs to go in there which

I had to which I had to create it had to

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come from me So the brand statement the

products all of those things That had to

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be in there whether I created this or not.

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I still had to come up with that

stuff so putting it into the

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website took almost no time at all.

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Angie: Great.

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No, but do you think that if you

hired somebody that there would

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have been a little more fire?

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John: Yeah, there might have been You

May well have been more urgency you

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probably right about that I probably

would have given myself more urgency

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of like i'm paying someone to do

This is going to cost you money.

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Let's get this taken care of and yeah,

it's definitely one of the things that

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I do struggle with is Creating urgency

and I need that I need my deadlines.

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I need stuff to no high levels of

accountability And perhaps having

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given myself that on my website is true

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Angie: Listen, and this is a good thing.

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I'm not, listen, I'm,

I love John to pieces.

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I'm not poking fun at him to, because

I, there's things that I still need

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to, for as long as I've been coaching,

doesn't mean that I've got every

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single thing dialed in every minute.

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I'm still learning As the world

changes and the atmosphere around

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what we do changes, we have to change.

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When John and I became coaches, there was

no like not that there wasn't Google, but

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it certainly wasn't to where it is now.

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There's so many things that have changed,

so we have to change along with it.

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Hence, why John's even

creating a new website.

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Bigger, better, stronger, faster.

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And the point of me bringing that up is

that, It's hard for us as professionals,

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especially as coaches sometimes to be

aware of what we really need as a business

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owner and me throwing out that this is

the first time I've ever had an assistant.

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I resisted it and resisted it.

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I tried finding people

a couple of years ago.

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I didn't see the financial value.

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So I said no, and then revisited it and

bam, it's changed everything for me.

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It's brought me back to feeling like

I'm falling in love with what I do all

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over again, because I'm not focused

and there's so much back end stuff.

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So John is great at back end stuff.

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John: It's been said

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Angie: cut this out

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John: in, in many environments.

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Angie: sorry.

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So John is great at back end

stuff, but that doesn't mean

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John should be doing it, right?

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Because what is John,

what is it costing him?

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So you know, we always think in terms

like I'm very financially aware,

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and I think that's another thing

that might hold people back from.

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Maybe, doing some of the things

that they'd like to do and then

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say, no, I can just do this myself.

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What it's costing me financially

is nothing compared to what it

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has cost me over years of time.

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There's just no comparison

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John: Yeah.

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Angie: to

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John: Yeah.

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Angie: And sometimes that derails us.

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John: yeah, it's it's easy.

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It's easy to get stuck in stuff as well.

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For sure.

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I am very up for the idea of

delegation, but no, there are probably

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a bunch of reasons why I didn't

particularly want to do it with my

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website at this particular time.

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Although I think.

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Maybe in a couple of years time when

it's going to be time to revamp it

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again I'm going to be getting someone

else to do that because the content's

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going to be there and i'm not going to

want to spend time on it but yeah, it's

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it's easy to get lost in the weeds with

our own goals and we do have to have

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urgency clarity deadlines about what

we're heading towards and give those to

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ourselves and Give my own example about

where I perhaps haven't been as effective

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as that recently with myself as I would

like to have been although I will say

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this By the time this episode goes to

air the website will be there You can go

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and have a look the link's going to be in

the show notes for you present influence.

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com Go and check it out.

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It will be there.

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It won't be perfect, but it will be there

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Angie: I love that you

just said that, right?

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Let's point that out to our listeners

that don't wait for things to

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be perfect before you promote.

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Now, I understand the whole premise of,

Hey, it's you only get one chance to make

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your first impression and all of that.

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But I think some people take

that into Olympic event.

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status, and I'm not saying

John, I don't mean him.

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I just mean that I've worked with people

that in any of their goals might have been

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like and this is the reason, and that's

the reason, or maybe I wanted to get

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one more little certification and that's

just your fear holding you back, right?

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Coming up with the next thing that sounds

amazing, but all it is a distraction

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to either launching or diving into the

new goals that you have for yourself.

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I'm always excited at the beginning

of the year because it's although I

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think we do, you and I talk about this

constantly, we're always self reflecting,

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we're always throwing things at each

other and bouncing things off of each

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other, but I think, historically, it's

become a little bit like, hey, it's

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the new year, what's going to happen?

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John: I don't think you can really look

forward without looking back as well.

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And so I think I, I did this with my,

with one of my coaching groups recently.

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Like we had a call just around Christmas.

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We had another call around new year.

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So the Christmas call, we

did a review of the year.

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And what were the goals and things

that maybe didn't work out for you?

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And what, why didn't

those things work out?

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to give yourself this clarity around

What is maybe some of the things that you

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know, are those were they the wrong goals?

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Do you need to be

focusing on other things?

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Or were there things that you just

weren't doing or paying attention to

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that needed to be Worked on they're

going to help you for whether these

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need to come back into your goals this

year back into your attention or whether

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they're relevant to the new things

that you may want to Work on as well.

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helpful to know ourselves to understand

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where we've been and what maybe has

stopped us or held us back from getting

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to where we might have hoped we could

have got to not to beat yourself up

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over it, which I think a lot of people.

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It's very easy to do but to have awareness

around all right Yeah, I have maybe a

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record realization that I didn't have

enough accountability around this and

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didn't get this done or Lacked the urgency

or other two took on too many things

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whatever it is for you what has been

blocking you from getting as far as you

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could have gotten that you can learn from?

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piece, I mentioned that earlier,

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I think it's really important.

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What worked?

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If you've had a goal, let's just

say, and it's been a goal for the

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last five years, it keeps showing up

because you're not getting it done.

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I think that's one of the big,

flashing neon lights at signs that

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saying is should this even be a goal?

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usually say to people like, okay,

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nothing wrong with great health.

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Why are we not reaching the goal?

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But sometimes you have to say.

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Should this even be on the radar?

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That's what I mentioned earlier about,

is that just another distraction

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holding you back from other

things that are true priorities?

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It's like when, anybody ever been

on an interview and the person

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interviewing you says, where do you

see yourself in 10 years or five years?

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And I'm like, are you kidding me?

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I don't like, yeah, I have a vision

and sometimes maybe if you have a

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very big ambitious goal that you

want to hit and you know that it

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literally is something that you

have to plan for a couple of years.

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And I've had some of those.

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You, it's, again, no matter how far out

it may be, I'm sure there's going to

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be certain steps or requirements that

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I still have to put assigned time to it.

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What are the steps year over

year that have to take place?

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So it doesn't matter whether it's

a short term quick fit goal or if

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it is something that's longer term.

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Again, I'm a little leery of what

do I want to do in five years?

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At this point.

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But when I started out as a real coach

and turned it into a real business for

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myself, I did have a really big vision.

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I did.

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Now even as a speaker, I always,

it's funny how my vision has changed.

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I used to see myself on these little

teeny tiny stages and now when I

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envision it, I want those big old stages.

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I want, I almost want to be

like, where's Joel Osteen?

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I want that room.

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And who knows someday I

might, what'd you say?

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John: The Church of Angie.

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You have your own

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Angie: We don't know if you want

the Church of Angie, unless you

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want the express train to hell.

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I don't know about that.

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But anyway, I was thinking

like, my ambitions are changing.

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And and my point is that if I see

that, if I'm really Oh, daydreaming,

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that should actually be on my list.

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That should be something that I'm

not just stuffing away and going, Oh

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please, when am I ever going to be?

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That's not that's, you're not

gonna hit that goal for sure.

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You never, the answer is automatically no.

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With that mindset.

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So sometimes it's even about just

how do I expand on what did work and

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make it even a little bit, the one

degree or the 1% bigger than it was.

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John: This it's interesting to know

something that's come up in coaching

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calls and for about this daydreaming

kind of thing of there is a form of

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positive procrastination and this is

it, where you're dreaming about the

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future or what could be and what can be.

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It's not a bad thing to be doing.

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It's inspiring yourself.

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It's really positive.

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It's not really that you're doing

it instead of trying instead of

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stuff that you should be doing.

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You're doing it to create that picture

for the future to inspire yourself.

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I think often We do devalue that

the visualizations, the creating the

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images of it, the daydreaming about

this to being less important as,

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just write it down and there it is.

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It's why not have your, if vision boards

are your thing, get your vision board

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or write your goals down, but have them

somewhere where you can see them and

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check in with them and re inspired.

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by yourself with the

things you're working on.

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Because one thing's sure I think it was

Jim Rohn motivation is like bathing.

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It doesn't last.

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So we recommend it daily.

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It's it won't last.

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I think it was Jim Rohn but yeah, it's

so motivation will not last Stuff will

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take longer than you think it's going

to take curveballs will get thrown at

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you Life will get in the way and it

even if you have a good why Life may

439

00:24:24,005 --> 00:24:28,165

stop you from achieving your goals If

your why isn't as big and as strong as

440

00:24:28,165 --> 00:24:32,325

you can possibly make it for yourself

And so we need to have that we need

441

00:24:32,325 --> 00:24:35,995

to check in with it and keep ourselves

motivated and on track And ideally

442

00:24:35,995 --> 00:24:38,035

accountable and this is your coaches.

443

00:24:38,045 --> 00:24:42,285

You're a coach listening to this If

you don't have your own coach, I know

444

00:24:42,315 --> 00:24:45,085

we've talked about this in an episode

You may not have heard of if you don't

445

00:24:45,095 --> 00:24:49,519

have your own coach Who are you being

accountable to for the goals that you set?

446

00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:53,690

You want to create here who's gonna

who's going to give you the proverbial

447

00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:57,700

kick up the butt to get into action when

you need It or the encouragement or the

448

00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,110

cheerleading if that's what you want Who's

going to do that for you if you don't

449

00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,300

have your own coach or coaches in your

450

00:25:04,465 --> 00:25:05,565

Angie: That's a great point.

451

00:25:05,725 --> 00:25:09,014

That's a great point,

because you might set a goal.

452

00:25:09,015 --> 00:25:09,995

We usually do, right?

453

00:25:09,995 --> 00:25:11,415

We set a goal for the year.

454

00:25:11,415 --> 00:25:12,895

This is what we'd like to see.

455

00:25:13,175 --> 00:25:17,775

This is what we're projecting, but you

can't wait until November to see if you're

456

00:25:17,775 --> 00:25:20,045

on track to hit your goals by December.

457

00:25:20,325 --> 00:25:25,335

So accountability with somebody,

an accountability partner or a

458

00:25:25,335 --> 00:25:28,175

coach is, I think, super important.

459

00:25:28,725 --> 00:25:34,135

And at least, if you have a, an annual

goal, let's just say, and you break

460

00:25:34,135 --> 00:25:37,915

it down into quarterly goals you need

to check in on it every quarter and

461

00:25:37,915 --> 00:25:42,585

maybe even every month and say, am I

on target to hit this quarterly goal

462

00:25:42,715 --> 00:25:44,295

that's going to bring me to the next.

463

00:25:44,605 --> 00:25:47,525

It is really that important

to check in on that.

464

00:25:47,575 --> 00:25:50,615

You have to, otherwise, you don't

want to get caught with your pants

465

00:25:50,615 --> 00:25:53,205

down at the end of the year and

say, Oh no, that didn't work.

466

00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,325

John: A thousand percent i'll say this

If you don't actually know What you

467

00:26:00,325 --> 00:26:05,555

need to be doing on a daily and weekly

basis in order to hit these you don't

468

00:26:05,635 --> 00:26:09,625

really have goals You just have a bit

of pie in the sky a bit of oh, yeah,

469

00:26:09,625 --> 00:26:14,025

that'd be nice These aren't really goals

You need to be able to know how you're

470

00:26:14,045 --> 00:26:18,545

going to achieve it and what you should

be doing on a consistent Basis that you

471

00:26:18,545 --> 00:26:22,415

can even check in with yourself and say

am I doing this if it's a relationship

472

00:26:22,425 --> 00:26:24,545

goal You Are you doing your date nights?

473

00:26:24,545 --> 00:26:28,625

Are you having time to communicate

and be intimate with each other?

474

00:26:28,835 --> 00:26:33,645

If it's a fitness goal, are you actually

showing up and putting in the work or

475

00:26:33,955 --> 00:26:36,555

joining the gym or hiring the trainer

that you said you were going to hire?

476

00:26:36,555 --> 00:26:39,535

What, whatever it is same

with your professional goals.

477

00:26:39,585 --> 00:26:41,855

Are you doing the prospecting?

478

00:26:41,865 --> 00:26:43,375

Are you publishing your website?

479

00:26:43,375 --> 00:26:45,475

Whatever it is that needs to be happening.

480

00:26:45,755 --> 00:26:46,915

Get that stuff done.

481

00:26:47,785 --> 00:26:51,875

Get that stuff in place and know what

you need to be doing on a daily and

482

00:26:51,875 --> 00:26:57,305

weekly basis and protect it Protect

your time around that and that all how

483

00:26:57,305 --> 00:26:58,835

much time do I need to be doing this?

484

00:26:58,835 --> 00:26:59,965

Am I working full days?

485

00:26:59,965 --> 00:27:02,435

What are the hours that you

need to be put into doing this?

486

00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:06,395

And how are you going to make sure that

you actually have the time to do those

487

00:27:06,405 --> 00:27:08,945

things that you said are important?

488

00:27:09,265 --> 00:27:12,285

And need to be prioritized

above those other things

489

00:27:13,145 --> 00:27:16,505

Angie: And I think that, you know what,

that's so important to, to recognize that

490

00:27:17,105 --> 00:27:21,065

sometimes you're going to overestimate

the time necessary to do certain tasks.

491

00:27:21,195 --> 00:27:25,985

So do it so that you can

actually create, a more Oh,

492

00:27:26,035 --> 00:27:27,405

what's the word I'm looking for?

493

00:27:27,955 --> 00:27:29,575

Daily routine for yourself.

494

00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:30,850

You know what I mean?

495

00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:34,840

So for example, most experts, I'm

not going to get into this whole

496

00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:38,870

thing, but most experts would say

to you, you need 30, 30 minutes of

497

00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:41,030

exercise a day, which is good for you.

498

00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,250

Now, again, what we do, how we

do it as a whole different thing.

499

00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:48,330

But somebody's already put that

formula into place for us a bit.

500

00:27:48,690 --> 00:27:50,540

You need to figure out your own formula.

501

00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:53,050

You need to figure out

what's, what works for you.

502

00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,490

And this could be something, some

people are really hell bent on, because

503

00:27:57,490 --> 00:28:00,600

of so many, other influences, get out

there, do everything first thing in

504

00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,810

the morning and do the hard stuff.

505

00:28:02,150 --> 00:28:02,890

I'm going to say this.

506

00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:06,910

Some people do not have that bandwidth

in the morning or that brain power.

507

00:28:07,130 --> 00:28:10,380

Some people literally are

not morning people, right?

508

00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,220

And they can't, if you ask me to do

my heavy thinking between two and

509

00:28:14,220 --> 00:28:17,710

five no, Not a good look for me.

510

00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:18,820

I invest in

511

00:28:18,855 --> 00:28:19,915

John: it wouldn't work for me either.

512

00:28:19,915 --> 00:28:20,024

Yeah.

513

00:28:20,025 --> 00:28:20,465

Yeah.

514

00:28:20,515 --> 00:28:22,455

I'm for brain power stuff.

515

00:28:22,785 --> 00:28:24,775

I'm best mid morning, mid afternoon.

516

00:28:25,115 --> 00:28:26,695

Those are my peak times.

517

00:28:26,975 --> 00:28:30,595

Although my idea generation

seems to happen more closer

518

00:28:30,595 --> 00:28:32,085

to bedtime for some reason.

519

00:28:32,405 --> 00:28:35,645

And I am that kind of person, you'll

be going to sleep and thinking stuff

520

00:28:35,675 --> 00:28:39,115

up as I'm drifting off to sleep.

521

00:28:39,125 --> 00:28:40,135

That's the way my brain works.

522

00:28:40,395 --> 00:28:43,205

I do, but to some degree I would not.

523

00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:47,540

generally describe myself as

a morning person, but I can

524

00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,200

still do stuff in the mornings.

525

00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,720

I can still push myself to do something.

526

00:28:51,930 --> 00:28:55,870

It makes me think about this one

thing of having these goals and moving

527

00:28:55,870 --> 00:29:00,690

forward with them is going to be hard,

but not doing it and not getting the

528

00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:03,210

things that you really want to be to

have a create is going to be harder.

529

00:29:03,885 --> 00:29:09,265

So so choose your difficult choose for

want of a better phrase choose your hard.

530

00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,320

Angie: Yeah, I definitely agree.

531

00:29:11,376 --> 00:29:13,026

something doesn't feel good.

532

00:29:13,546 --> 00:29:14,886

We avoided our brain.

533

00:29:14,946 --> 00:29:19,126

Our brain is like working against

us in that space because it's

534

00:29:19,126 --> 00:29:20,346

like, let me go do something.

535

00:29:20,346 --> 00:29:20,836

I don't like.

536

00:29:20,856 --> 00:29:21,796

No, it doesn't feel good.

537

00:29:21,796 --> 00:29:22,346

It's danger.

538

00:29:22,346 --> 00:29:22,716

It's this.

539

00:29:22,726 --> 00:29:23,386

It's that.

540

00:29:23,536 --> 00:29:26,246

So we have to push through that.

541

00:29:26,286 --> 00:29:32,966

But, is it hard or is it out of our the

realm of things that we enjoy doing now?

542

00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:36,086

I'm not saying that life should be

a party every minute of every day.

543

00:29:36,466 --> 00:29:40,206

Because I do believe there are certain

things that we need to push through

544

00:29:40,656 --> 00:29:44,506

and get to the other side and break

through our own little, our own little

545

00:29:44,546 --> 00:29:46,816

roadblocks, if you will, our own detours.

546

00:29:47,296 --> 00:29:48,156

But that's the thing.

547

00:29:48,156 --> 00:29:50,226

If you hit a detour, you

don't just sit there.

548

00:29:50,266 --> 00:29:52,096

I say this all the time in

coaching, you know that.

549

00:29:52,486 --> 00:29:55,776

You hit a detour, you're not going

to sit there and turn off the car and

550

00:29:55,776 --> 00:29:57,396

wait for them to move the barriers.

551

00:29:57,396 --> 00:29:59,156

You're going to find a different way.

552

00:29:59,456 --> 00:30:04,090

Give yourself that same grace to

figure out your special sauce,

553

00:30:04,090 --> 00:30:05,620

what really works for you.

554

00:30:06,425 --> 00:30:06,765

John: Yeah.

555

00:30:07,325 --> 00:30:07,485

Oh

556

00:30:07,690 --> 00:30:09,730

Angie: you definitely achieve more.

557

00:30:11,125 --> 00:30:11,895

John: i'll share this.

558

00:30:11,925 --> 00:30:16,005

There was a game changer for me and for

clients that i've shared this with it

559

00:30:16,005 --> 00:30:23,155

has been A game changer for them as well

You do have to think about Who do you

560

00:30:23,285 --> 00:30:28,405

need to become in order to achieve the

things that you say you want to achieve?

561

00:30:28,405 --> 00:30:33,075

You Who do you need to be showing

up as now to make that happen?

562

00:30:33,325 --> 00:30:35,175

Because it's not the case with goals.

563

00:30:35,185 --> 00:30:38,245

And I think this has often been taught

wrong in the personal development world.

564

00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:41,455

It's not the case with goals that

you get to the thing and suddenly the

565

00:30:42,195 --> 00:30:46,795

click, I know the switch clicks and,

you, poof, you are now this thing.

566

00:30:47,205 --> 00:30:48,405

You have to be that now.

567

00:30:48,405 --> 00:30:51,135

You have to be showing up as the

person you need to be showing

568

00:30:51,135 --> 00:30:52,315

up as in your own life now.

569

00:30:52,715 --> 00:30:53,645

Not perfectly.

570

00:30:54,185 --> 00:30:57,795

It's not going to be perfect, but it

needs to be that you're doing that

571

00:30:57,825 --> 00:30:59,805

and becoming consistent with it.

572

00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:05,750

For you to actually make progress here

like these targets goals are targets that

573

00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:10,090

we're aiming for You may hit it and you

may hit it by the time you say you want

574

00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:15,190

to hit it by or you may not But have you

failed if you don't it's not a pass fail.

575

00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:19,290

It's maybe you got close to it Maybe

you're actually somewhere on the target

576

00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:24,600

board But not bullseye where you want

to be or maybe you've exceeded your

577

00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,420

goals, but you're gonna be Somewhere and

you're still Even if you don't get it,

578

00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:32,480

you're gonna be closer to the outcomes

you want than you would be if you

579

00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,950

didn't have these things in your life.

580

00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,460

So don't even look at it as a pass fail.

581

00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,460

It's not it's the direction

that you want to move in.

582

00:31:39,850 --> 00:31:45,580

And if you have too many targets

that you are aiming for, you

583

00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:46,810

are not gonna hit one of them.

584

00:31:46,810 --> 00:31:47,891

So you do want to.

585

00:31:48,465 --> 00:31:51,955

Limit yourself and the amount of targets

that you're actually aiming towards

586

00:31:52,665 --> 00:31:55,375

Angie: Listen, it's so funny because

as you were saying all of that,

587

00:31:55,375 --> 00:31:58,795

it was, it brought me back to, I

used to play some serious softball.

588

00:31:59,185 --> 00:32:00,135

I'm a lefty.

589

00:32:00,185 --> 00:32:00,585

I throw a

590

00:32:00,735 --> 00:32:03,905

John: I wouldn't want to I would not want

to go up against you in softball angie.

591

00:32:03,905 --> 00:32:04,635

That would scare me

592

00:32:05,675 --> 00:32:07,445

Angie: Seriously, but I was a pitcher.

593

00:32:07,485 --> 00:32:10,845

I either played, I either pitched or I

was first base because I was a lefty.

594

00:32:10,855 --> 00:32:16,645

Anyway, and the interesting thing

was that I, what I got to know

595

00:32:16,645 --> 00:32:20,605

about myself along with my coach,

by the way, when I was really young.

596

00:32:20,970 --> 00:32:24,930

And I don't know, I played softball

from 12 years old up until about

597

00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,730

35, 34, something like that.

598

00:32:28,910 --> 00:32:29,580

Long time.

599

00:32:30,150 --> 00:32:31,210

Pitching, that's me.

600

00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:38,600

But I learned very young that I have

this natural twist when I release the

601

00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:46,685

ball that would bring, no matter what

I tried with my hand to, to navigate

602

00:32:46,685 --> 00:32:50,705

and manipulate my hand that I was still

throwing the ball in this same way.

603

00:32:50,705 --> 00:32:54,185

I have this like inner spin that

I just didn't know how to undo.

604

00:32:54,595 --> 00:32:58,015

And my coach tried and tried and he was

like, I don't know what to tell you.

605

00:32:58,485 --> 00:33:00,655

And then one day what I did was.

606

00:33:01,205 --> 00:33:03,555

I moved over on the pitcher's mound.

607

00:33:03,765 --> 00:33:06,525

I moved to the left a little bit.

608

00:33:07,125 --> 00:33:07,875

And guess what?

609

00:33:07,925 --> 00:33:09,555

All of a sudden the spin didn't matter.

610

00:33:09,585 --> 00:33:11,225

The spin was strike after strike.

611

00:33:11,605 --> 00:33:15,055

And it wasn't the thing that I

thought I had to keep trying, right?

612

00:33:15,055 --> 00:33:18,185

I wasn't going to stop playing

because I couldn't pitch great.

613

00:33:18,665 --> 00:33:19,845

I was a good pitcher.

614

00:33:20,435 --> 00:33:24,295

I just had this twist and I couldn't,

I didn't know how to stop doing it.

615

00:33:24,295 --> 00:33:25,835

I'm holding my hand going, stop it.

616

00:33:25,835 --> 00:33:26,305

What are you doing?

617

00:33:26,585 --> 00:33:27,735

I have no control.

618

00:33:28,155 --> 00:33:31,975

So instead of trying to fix the

hand, I just moved a little bit left.

619

00:33:32,445 --> 00:33:38,555

And now, that natural twist that

I had was right in alignment.

620

00:33:38,565 --> 00:33:41,345

Right where it should

be, most of the time.

621

00:33:41,595 --> 00:33:42,975

Which is what a good pitcher did.

622

00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,040

Right here.

623

00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,450

I was trying to fix something

that really wasn't broke.

624

00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:50,310

It was natural and I had to embrace it.

625

00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:53,540

So I know that's a crazy story, but

that's what I thought about when you

626

00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:56,270

said that, because that was one of

the times in my life where I could

627

00:33:56,270 --> 00:34:00,090

identify the natural challenge.

628

00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,700

I tried to change it.

629

00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,430

I had no luck.

630

00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:04,760

So then what did I have to do?

631

00:34:05,180 --> 00:34:09,005

I had to shift the whole body

so that the wrist, And the hand

632

00:34:09,045 --> 00:34:13,034

movement made sense and brought me

to the goal, which was a strike.

633

00:34:13,745 --> 00:34:14,025

John: Yeah

634

00:34:14,054 --> 00:34:15,264

Angie: That's a crazy story, but

635

00:34:15,324 --> 00:34:18,495

John: You could but you could only

have figured that out by being in

636

00:34:18,495 --> 00:34:22,435

the game By continuing on with it

and that same for all of us as well.

637

00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:26,485

As I many people will wait

until everything is perfect.

638

00:34:26,485 --> 00:34:30,565

All the stars are aligned before

taking action and going for it before

639

00:34:30,565 --> 00:34:34,074

moving stuff out from being that

sort of conceptual stage in the mind.

640

00:34:34,385 --> 00:34:36,324

To being more of a manifest reality.

641

00:34:36,324 --> 00:34:39,835

I'm always reluctant to use that word

because there's so much shit around

642

00:34:40,175 --> 00:34:42,114

manifestation, but you get what I mean.

643

00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:45,844

It's like manifest reality, just being in

the, something that's in the real world.

644

00:34:46,295 --> 00:34:50,364

And and I see this all the time with

people of when they're when I work

645

00:34:50,364 --> 00:34:53,875

with people, I'm creating actions that

are going to start moving forward.

646

00:34:53,875 --> 00:34:54,985

The, we want strategies.

647

00:34:54,985 --> 00:34:58,065

We want actions that are going to

move forward these goals towards these

648

00:34:58,065 --> 00:34:59,725

targets that we have for ourselves.

649

00:35:00,365 --> 00:35:02,955

You can tell pretty quick the

people who are going to see

650

00:35:02,955 --> 00:35:04,705

results sooner than the others.

651

00:35:05,505 --> 00:35:11,450

And to me, the ones who are working

both the inner and the outer game.

652

00:35:12,010 --> 00:35:15,630

So they're working on themselves, but

they're also working on making something

653

00:35:15,630 --> 00:35:16,990

happen in the world around them.

654

00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:22,160

I think when you have a good plan of

making sure that you look after the

655

00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600

inner game, that's going on for you,

the mindset and everything else your

656

00:35:25,610 --> 00:35:27,290

health, your wellbeing, your energy.

657

00:35:27,830 --> 00:35:31,060

That's all stuff that's really

important and supports everything

658

00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:32,230

else that's going to be going on.

659

00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:35,230

You have to have it and you

have to have stuff that's

660

00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:36,540

taking action in the real world.

661

00:35:36,850 --> 00:35:37,400

I see.

662

00:35:37,995 --> 00:35:42,625

way too many people, and I do call

this out when I see it, who just

663

00:35:42,635 --> 00:35:44,715

have the internal stuff going on.

664

00:35:44,715 --> 00:35:45,795

That's their action steps.

665

00:35:45,805 --> 00:35:47,525

It's all stuff I'm going

to work on with myself.

666

00:35:47,525 --> 00:35:50,385

I'm going to spend some time

to think about this as well.

667

00:35:50,805 --> 00:35:55,065

We need something that takes you

out of thinking and into practical

668

00:35:55,145 --> 00:35:59,125

action, because that is where

you're going to see results.

669

00:35:59,395 --> 00:36:03,750

My, my favorite I often be, I often

will be asked what my top favorite quote

670

00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:09,730

is, and it is from Lao Tsu, who was

a teacher to Confucius, that to know

671

00:36:09,790 --> 00:36:12,890

and not to do is to not truly know.

672

00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:16,930

So you can know something in your head,

but unless you actually do something

673

00:36:16,930 --> 00:36:18,740

with it, you're not really going to know.

674

00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:21,800

It's conceptual knowledge, it's not

practical knowledge, and there's

675

00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,260

a big difference between the two.

676

00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:25,870

You can figure things out

when you're in action.

677

00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:28,820

You can't figure them out just

all together in your head.

678

00:36:28,850 --> 00:36:30,340

You will never get to that point.

679

00:36:30,610 --> 00:36:33,990

You have to put the stuff into

action and do something with it.

680

00:36:34,050 --> 00:36:39,240

And then our ability to be adaptable and

flexible and all the good things that

681

00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:43,610

get us past any obstacles or problems

that come up will come into play.

682

00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:47,850

But our brains are just not capable

of figuring all those things

683

00:36:47,850 --> 00:36:50,590

out before we take any action.

684

00:36:51,395 --> 00:36:52,535

Angie: Absolutely, how do you learn?

685

00:36:52,535 --> 00:36:53,545

Through experience.

686

00:36:53,545 --> 00:36:56,905

I could learn anything in a tech,

think about a surgeon, right?

687

00:36:57,025 --> 00:36:58,375

Oh, top of the class.

688

00:36:58,425 --> 00:37:02,245

I graduated top of the class, but

I've only done one of these great in

689

00:37:02,245 --> 00:37:04,455

depth brain surgeries, Miss Angie.

690

00:37:05,025 --> 00:37:05,515

Really?

691

00:37:05,745 --> 00:37:08,615

And then I get somebody who's maybe

graduated middle of the class,

692

00:37:08,615 --> 00:37:11,335

weren't the best, weren't the worst,

but they've done a thousand of them.

693

00:37:11,345 --> 00:37:11,365

Yeah.

694

00:37:11,365 --> 00:37:11,505

Yeah.

695

00:37:11,845 --> 00:37:13,135

Where do you think I'm going?

696

00:37:13,215 --> 00:37:16,645

I'm going to the thousand guy because

he's got the experience, what could

697

00:37:16,655 --> 00:37:20,905

happen, what did happen, just knows

how to do things in the moment.

698

00:37:20,925 --> 00:37:21,135

Like.

699

00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:23,220

All day long, think about it.

700

00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:26,490

So yeah, and you have to

give yourself again that

701

00:37:26,740 --> 00:37:26,970

John: Yeah.

702

00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:27,290

I agree.

703

00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,340

Angie: do it.

704

00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:31,370

John: I've often used the example of

if you need business, if you need a

705

00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:35,230

specific business advice, do you go

to the to the college professor who's,

706

00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,830

he's been teaching business for decades,

but never actually had any practical

707

00:37:40,830 --> 00:37:45,510

business experience, or do you ideally

go to, I'm giving this away, but do you

708

00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:49,280

go to the person who's been in business

and has lived it and put all the stuff

709

00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,520

into action that the professor probably

only has a conceptual knowledge of,

710

00:37:53,790 --> 00:37:57,890

maybe ideally, Go to both, get a bit

of both, but more than anything else

711

00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:59,870

you want the practical knowledge.

712

00:37:59,870 --> 00:38:03,270

You want to see what things look like

in action and to speak with somebody

713

00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:09,080

who isn't just in the conceptuality

of things or the knowing the data and

714

00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,070

information, but someone who knows

what happens in business and what you

715

00:38:13,070 --> 00:38:14,740

need to be doing to make that happen.

716

00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:15,840

Angie: Yep.

717

00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,590

I agree.

718

00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:17,760

Good stuff today.

719

00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:19,480

John: Where do you stand?

720

00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:21,880

This might be a sort of closing

off thing, but where do you stand

721

00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,610

on rewarding yourself for goals?

722

00:38:24,933 --> 00:38:26,013

Do you think that's important?

723

00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:29,530

Angie: I think for me,

let me start with me.

724

00:38:30,010 --> 00:38:32,120

For me, the reward is the achievement.

725

00:38:32,170 --> 00:38:34,150

It's hitting the goal, right?

726

00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:34,770

I did it.

727

00:38:34,830 --> 00:38:35,800

I worked at it.

728

00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:36,680

I fell.

729

00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,960

I lip skidded, but I hit it.

730

00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,460

I did it.

731

00:38:39,765 --> 00:38:41,995

There's great value in that.

732

00:38:43,215 --> 00:38:47,065

I'm not, I have to be honest and I'm

sure there's some psychiatrists and

733

00:38:47,065 --> 00:38:50,985

psychologists out there with really

pretty letters at the end of their last

734

00:38:50,985 --> 00:38:52,705

name that are going to go, you're wrong.

735

00:38:53,435 --> 00:38:58,475

I'm just going to say that in my

personal experience and my experience

736

00:38:58,515 --> 00:39:02,825

as a coach, the reward system

stops working when you're five.

737

00:39:03,930 --> 00:39:08,020

It's just, if it's do you need to have

a reward for everything that you set

738

00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:10,020

out to do as an adult professional?

739

00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:14,750

So I don't really know, I'm not really

a fan, obviously, trying to say that

740

00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:20,510

graciously, but I'm not like, oh maybe

if you lose 25 pounds and you want to

741

00:39:20,510 --> 00:39:22,630

go buy a new wardrobe, go for it, right?

742

00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,040

That's great, but it's not just a

reward, it's probably a necessity.

743

00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,850

You lost 25 pounds, go do it.

744

00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:30,310

Go buy the new clothes you need!

745

00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:32,232

John: I have mixed feelings about it.

746

00:39:32,232 --> 00:39:36,002

I've certainly used coaching been

in coaching programs where rewards

747

00:39:36,002 --> 00:39:40,402

have been encouraged and we get people to

Create and take rewards for themselves.

748

00:39:40,852 --> 00:39:42,472

And part of that is because there are

749

00:39:42,492 --> 00:39:46,427

some people who just don't they don't

Do really do anything for themselves.

750

00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:51,187

They don't even think they don't

spend any time to play and have fun.

751

00:39:51,237 --> 00:39:54,467

And I think just in terms of if that, if

it just helps some people have a bit more

752

00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:56,447

balanced, then it's a good thing for that.

753

00:39:56,867 --> 00:40:01,807

I'm unsure about how effective it

is in terms of personal entrainment.

754

00:40:02,842 --> 00:40:06,902

It's given we're not dogs Although some of

our psychology may work in similar ways,

755

00:40:06,902 --> 00:40:08,832

but we don't just they're all good boy.

756

00:40:08,852 --> 00:40:11,332

Good girl Here's a treat, you

know because you did the trick.

757

00:40:11,662 --> 00:40:15,162

Yeah, exactly that I think

there's a limit You're right.

758

00:40:15,162 --> 00:40:18,782

There's a limit to how much that stuff

really works One of the things that I

759

00:40:18,792 --> 00:40:23,242

have used and you're welcome to take it or

leave it if you find it helpful or not But

760

00:40:23,242 --> 00:40:26,992

for some of my clients who felt that they

needed something more with their goals

761

00:40:27,372 --> 00:40:33,312

can be to tie in some of your service

and contribution goals particularly,

762

00:40:33,322 --> 00:40:37,272

this is particularly for professional

goals that you may have, financial goals

763

00:40:37,272 --> 00:40:41,242

that you may want to hit, to tie in some

of your service and contribution goals

764

00:40:41,242 --> 00:40:45,112

to those that because it's a reward to

yourself as well to be able to maybe make

765

00:40:45,232 --> 00:40:50,842

a donation to an organization that you

want to support or to be able to Sponsor

766

00:40:50,842 --> 00:40:56,612

somebody or to do a good thing for your

community or whatever else that you create

767

00:40:56,702 --> 00:41:01,142

service and contribution goals and link

them to your own goals because you're

768

00:41:01,142 --> 00:41:06,652

going to be turning up your accountability

massively because the goals, the

769

00:41:06,662 --> 00:41:08,882

outcomes of your goals are no longer just

770

00:41:08,882 --> 00:41:13,832

about You getting what you want is

also that Other people are going to

771

00:41:13,832 --> 00:41:17,602

get something that's going to be really

valuable to them as well your goals

772

00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:22,572

Suddenly become about much more than

you They become about being able to help

773

00:41:22,592 --> 00:41:23,882

others and being in those positions.

774

00:41:23,882 --> 00:41:27,532

So I think if you don't have service

and contribution goals, currently

775

00:41:27,532 --> 00:41:32,022

linked to your more specifically to your

professional goals, have a think about

776

00:41:32,022 --> 00:41:36,802

doing that because I think it could be a

great way to, to turn up the urgency and

777

00:41:36,802 --> 00:41:41,262

accountability for what you want to be, to

have and create in your professional life.

778

00:41:42,551 --> 00:41:44,221

Angie: Yeah, I think I

want to be really clear.

779

00:41:44,221 --> 00:41:45,421

I want to clarify something.

780

00:41:45,421 --> 00:41:46,441

I think that's great.

781

00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:50,001

I think, paying things forward

or giving back contributing is

782

00:41:50,001 --> 00:41:52,151

just something that I think I do anyway.

783

00:41:52,631 --> 00:41:55,201

There's things that I

just do personally as, and

784

00:41:55,201 --> 00:41:57,411

sometimes it's about

doing things pro bono.

785

00:41:57,411 --> 00:41:59,961

Sometimes it's about

tying an outcome to it.

786

00:42:00,241 --> 00:42:04,141

So I'm all about that, but I also

want to make sure I'm clear, like I

787

00:42:04,301 --> 00:42:07,061

believe that we need to celebrate our

788

00:42:07,351 --> 00:42:08,351

accomplishments.

789

00:42:08,881 --> 00:42:15,131

So I don't know if reward is the word

that I use, but I do think that we can't

790

00:42:15,171 --> 00:42:19,751

achieve any milestone to, get to the

bigger piece without celebrating it.

791

00:42:20,266 --> 00:42:21,346

Because it's important.

792

00:42:21,356 --> 00:42:22,296

We are working.

793

00:42:22,296 --> 00:42:23,516

We are accomplishing.

794

00:42:23,516 --> 00:42:24,686

We're doing something.

795

00:42:24,986 --> 00:42:25,136

and

796

00:42:25,136 --> 00:42:26,676

I think that's very individual.

797

00:42:26,676 --> 00:42:29,526

I think how we do it is

really what I was saying.

798

00:42:29,576 --> 00:42:32,756

I don't respond well

to Oh I lost 25 pounds.

799

00:42:32,766 --> 00:42:35,196

I'm going to have a piece of chocolate

and that's counterproductive.

800

00:42:35,206 --> 00:42:35,986

We're not doing that.

801

00:42:36,276 --> 00:42:42,766

But but still celebrating them and giving

yourself that positive reinforcement.

802

00:42:42,776 --> 00:42:44,716

Like I really can do this.

803

00:42:44,756 --> 00:42:46,366

It really is working.

804

00:42:46,676 --> 00:42:47,846

This is exciting.

805

00:42:48,316 --> 00:42:52,336

I still get excited about goals after

all these years, and I know you do too.

806

00:42:53,016 --> 00:42:57,966

So you want, you can't just

overlook and bypass, otherwise

807

00:42:57,966 --> 00:42:59,330

there's no sense in having them

808

00:43:00,303 --> 00:43:01,337

.

Otherwise there's no dopamine.

809

00:43:01,867 --> 00:43:05,627

So we definitely need to make sure

that we do to some degree or some

810

00:43:05,627 --> 00:43:08,327

level celebrate the milestones for

811

00:43:08,479 --> 00:43:11,559

John: I know you're one of I

know talking about burnout is

812

00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:13,899

one of your specialized areas.

813

00:43:13,899 --> 00:43:18,839

And I do think we are, I do think we

are still very much in a culture where

814

00:43:18,839 --> 00:43:20,989

it's all about hustle, hustle and grind.

815

00:43:21,539 --> 00:43:24,689

And everyone thinks that's what

you have to do all the time.

816

00:43:24,699 --> 00:43:26,129

But it does ultimately,

817

00:43:26,439 --> 00:43:29,119

If that's all you do, it

will lead you to burnout.

818

00:43:29,139 --> 00:43:30,949

There's no two ways about it.

819

00:43:30,959 --> 00:43:31,429

That's the

820

00:43:31,429 --> 00:43:31,859

road that

821

00:43:31,859 --> 00:43:36,789

you're on If you don't know how to play

and celebrate and have fun in your own

822

00:43:36,789 --> 00:43:37,939

life That's just not

823

00:43:37,949 --> 00:43:40,449

something that you feel

guilty about it that famous

824

00:43:40,489 --> 00:43:45,069

entrepreneurial guilt that people

often talk about because it's not work.

825

00:43:45,069 --> 00:43:45,939

It's not moving

826

00:43:45,939 --> 00:43:47,679

not advancing not moving the needle

827

00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:52,199

on my professional life, whatever else

Start giving yourself a break, Brené Brown

828

00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,059

talks about this exceptionally well in her

829

00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:55,699

content.

830

00:43:55,779 --> 00:43:57,709

About becoming more wholehearted.

831

00:43:57,709 --> 00:43:58,869

Like the whole thing she saw about these

832

00:43:58,869 --> 00:44:00,789

people, she was describing as wholehearted

833

00:44:00,789 --> 00:44:02,389

was that they knew how to play.

834

00:44:02,729 --> 00:44:05,809

And the lesson that she took away from

that was that she needed some play in

835

00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:10,859

her life for herself, with her family,

for the connection time, that piece, that

836

00:44:10,879 --> 00:44:12,999

balance piece was really missing for her.

837

00:44:13,379 --> 00:44:16,659

And I think, if you want to tie

celebrations, rewards, whatever else

838

00:44:16,709 --> 00:44:20,679

to your goals in that respect, that's

a healthy thing, it's going to help

839

00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:22,409

you have a much better life balance.

840

00:44:23,979 --> 00:44:27,299

Stay off that hustle and grind train

is like there are times for hustle

841

00:44:27,299 --> 00:44:32,239

and grind, but it has to be in balance

Whatever balance looks like for you with

842

00:44:32,249 --> 00:44:34,019

those other aspects of your life as well

843

00:44:35,162 --> 00:44:36,182

Angie: Oh, no, absolutely.

844

00:44:36,182 --> 00:44:40,232

If you're grinding all day, every day,

you are going to hate what you do and

845

00:44:40,232 --> 00:44:41,092

everybody around

846

00:44:41,092 --> 00:44:41,322

you.

847

00:44:41,882 --> 00:44:43,062

That is a true outcome.

848

00:44:43,072 --> 00:44:44,912

You're going to be like,

I don't even want to see

849

00:44:44,912 --> 00:44:45,662

these people.

850

00:44:45,692 --> 00:44:47,862

I don't care about the

kids, the dog, the spouse.

851

00:44:48,252 --> 00:44:49,632

I don't care about my food.

852

00:44:49,632 --> 00:44:50,762

I don't care about anything.

853

00:44:50,792 --> 00:44:52,942

I'm too tired to even

think about all of that.

854

00:44:52,942 --> 00:44:53,982

So I won't get into that

855

00:44:53,982 --> 00:44:54,952

But yes, you're right.

856

00:44:55,302 --> 00:44:55,902

John: And chat with us.

857

00:44:55,902 --> 00:44:57,042

We'll we'll have fun with you.

858

00:44:57,042 --> 00:44:57,602

We'll play

859

00:44:58,305 --> 00:45:01,145

Angie: Yeah, we need to

have, we need to be playful.

860

00:45:01,425 --> 00:45:02,995

That's one of my intentions this

861

00:45:02,995 --> 00:45:05,665

year is to be more intentionally play

862

00:45:05,675 --> 00:45:08,025

like just because that's

who I am naturally, right?

863

00:45:08,295 --> 00:45:13,085

So to just take off the hat and just be

who I am and be a little silly and playful

864

00:45:13,095 --> 00:45:15,295

because I feel good when I do that.

865

00:45:15,835 --> 00:45:16,525

Silly.

866

00:45:16,712 --> 00:45:18,062

John: for this year playful?

867

00:45:18,505 --> 00:45:19,015

Angie: It might be.

868

00:45:19,665 --> 00:45:20,495

It might be.

869

00:45:20,545 --> 00:45:22,095

Playful Is a great word for me.

870

00:45:22,305 --> 00:45:24,345

I was doing some things

while I was hanging

871

00:45:24,345 --> 00:45:27,125

out with my daughter recently,

and she literally rolled her

872

00:45:27,125 --> 00:45:28,235

eyes at me going, like, how

873

00:45:28,235 --> 00:45:28,575

old are you?

874

00:45:29,545 --> 00:45:30,815

I'm like, who cares?

875

00:45:30,915 --> 00:45:34,205

I still, my brain doesn't

realize how old my body is.

876

00:45:34,295 --> 00:45:35,515

It doesn't really care.

877

00:45:35,875 --> 00:45:37,865

So yeah, so silly and playful?

878

00:45:37,865 --> 00:45:41,835

is definitely going to lead to more

smiles by the end of the year for sure.

879

00:45:42,497 --> 00:45:43,087

John: I love that.

880

00:45:43,087 --> 00:45:46,287

Yeah, I think play is a great, at

least a great intention to have

881

00:45:46,567 --> 00:45:48,507

in their play and balance and fun.

882

00:45:48,787 --> 00:45:49,937

And I certainly have that on.

883

00:45:50,007 --> 00:45:51,627

Yeah, my, my word for this.

884

00:45:51,627 --> 00:45:52,827

Yeah, I think I see a

lot of people doing this.

885

00:45:52,827 --> 00:45:54,387

I think I have a word for this year.

886

00:45:54,427 --> 00:45:58,907

My word for this year is, oh, gosh,

I really haven't thought about this.

887

00:45:59,187 --> 00:45:59,727

Energy.

888

00:45:59,897 --> 00:46:01,037

I'm focused on energy.

889

00:46:02,445 --> 00:46:02,995

Angie: Okay.

890

00:46:03,495 --> 00:46:03,775

And I

891

00:46:03,877 --> 00:46:04,207

John: my word

892

00:46:04,245 --> 00:46:05,035

Angie: about energy.

893

00:46:05,655 --> 00:46:08,965

I love energy because it's

all the things, right?

894

00:46:09,025 --> 00:46:10,225

So that's great.

895

00:46:11,967 --> 00:46:13,787

John: us know what your

word for the year is.

896

00:46:13,787 --> 00:46:15,037

If that's inspired you to think of

897

00:46:15,037 --> 00:46:16,867

one or what your goals

you're setting for the year.

898

00:46:16,867 --> 00:46:17,277

We'd love to

899

00:46:17,277 --> 00:46:19,827

hear them and any

takeaways you may have had

900

00:46:19,827 --> 00:46:22,067

from the session or anything

we haven't talked about that.

901

00:46:22,067 --> 00:46:24,827

Maybe you think, Oh, I think this

is important for goal setting.

902

00:46:24,827 --> 00:46:27,777

We'd love to hear from you as well,

but by no, in no way do we think we

903

00:46:27,777 --> 00:46:29,117

have all the answers to everything.

904

00:46:29,367 --> 00:46:30,217

You're just getting what

905

00:46:30,967 --> 00:46:34,197

50 years worth of plus of coaching

experience from the two of us.

906

00:46:34,197 --> 00:46:34,817

Angie: For sure.

907

00:46:35,549 --> 00:46:35,759

John: I'm

908

00:46:35,759 --> 00:46:38,059

counting indeed but

it's been a fun episode.

909

00:46:38,059 --> 00:46:38,429

I think this

910

00:46:38,689 --> 00:46:43,189

has been a great way to start the year

and after holidays and bugs that have

911

00:46:43,219 --> 00:46:45,009

been going around and all

of this, we finally got

912

00:46:45,019 --> 00:46:46,579

around to being able to do this again.

913

00:46:46,929 --> 00:46:50,199

And we've got much more ahead

and maybe even some guests coming

914

00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:52,339

up for you . So that's going to

be a little different for us.

915

00:46:52,649 --> 00:46:53,559

But certainly.

916

00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:54,979

The people we're going to bring

917

00:46:54,979 --> 00:46:59,249

you are going to be amazing value for

you, too So start looking out for those

918

00:46:59,279 --> 00:47:01,629

episodes coming up and who knows what

919

00:47:01,669 --> 00:47:04,519

other news we'll have for you But

we'll be back again next week.

920

00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:07,479

You can expect more regular shows from

us again Now the holidays are over

921

00:47:07,819 --> 00:47:10,669

and we're happy to see

you back with us as well.

922

00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,534

We will look forward to seeing you on

the next show I Do you go check out

923

00:47:14,544 --> 00:47:16,014

any of the links that you want to from

924

00:47:16,064 --> 00:47:17,924

how to contact us in the show notes?

925

00:47:17,934 --> 00:47:21,744

You can also leave us a voice

message Go to speakpipe.

926

00:47:21,784 --> 00:47:23,854

com forward slash the

coaching clinic podcast.

927

00:47:23,864 --> 00:47:24,134

You can

928

00:47:24,134 --> 00:47:25,194

leave us a voicemail there.

929

00:47:25,194 --> 00:47:29,054

It's free to do We'll probably feature

you on the show if you do it And we'd love

930

00:47:29,054 --> 00:47:32,304

to hear from you or leave us a message

on linkedin or on twitter Or send us an

931

00:47:32,304 --> 00:47:32,714

email.

932

00:47:32,774 --> 00:47:34,814

We've already been hearing

from some people who would like

933

00:47:34,864 --> 00:47:36,064

to come and be on the show.

934

00:47:36,064 --> 00:47:36,634

We're looking at

935

00:47:36,634 --> 00:47:39,144

some new features, lots of

things coming up this year.

936

00:47:39,144 --> 00:47:40,034

It's going to be exciting.

937

00:47:40,617 --> 00:47:41,697

Angie: Very exciting.

938

00:47:42,804 --> 00:47:43,904

John: So we'll see you next time.

939

00:47:44,987 --> 00:47:45,317

Angie: Yeah.

940

00:47:45,377 --> 00:47:46,137

Bye for now.

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