For many vaccinated Americans the pandemic is all but over, but the political struggle over COVID-19 continues. At the same time, the new and highly contagious delta variant has many calling for a return to mask mandates first implemented at the height of the pandemic.

Dr. Marty Makary joins Marc and Dany to discuss why some Americans aren’t getting the vaccine, how much we should really be concerned about the delta variant and breakthrough infections, and whether new mandates on masks and vaccines are warranted in our communities and schools. They also talk about America’s global pandemic response and the future of COVID-19 in America.

Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Bloomberg School of Public Health and Carey Business School. He is the author of “The Price We Pay: What Broke American Health Care—and How to Fix It.”

Download the transcript here.