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How to get more listeners to your podcast (that you actually want!)
Episode 1515th April 2024 • The Podmaster: podcasting growth advice and insights for people and brands • The Podmaster (Neal Veglio)
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Boosting Your Podcast Listeners - Effective Growth Strategies

If you’re wrenching your hair out over your stagnating podcast audience, parked stubbornly south of the 100-listeners per episode mark....

Give me your ears!

Not literally, keep those; you’ll need them for what you're about to hear.

The pain of the plateau

I get it; the deflation hits hard when your buffer audience wouldn’t fill a dinghy, let alone that elusive cruise liner you dream of sipping Negronis on after a good hour in the hot tub.

But I'm going to share two key bits of insight with you.


1: How you need to reframe your current audience stats.

2: What you can do to increase them if you're still seeking dopamine.


By the time we’re done, you’ll have a noggin brimming with tactics tailored to your individual podcast challenges.


Because, let’s face it, moulding a prosperous podcast it’s not about rolling dice, it’s about strategy.


Want to get more of a handle on your podcast strategy so you can enjoy more new ideal listeners who are actually going to enjoy what you're putting out?

Contact me!

https://www.podmastery.co/contact/

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00:00 Recommend using one of two website platforms.

05:23 Grow podcast with targeted ad investment.

08:25 Targeted, precise traffic without any wasted efforts.

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One of the things that surfaces from the audits that I carry out for clients

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is Neal, how do I grow my podcast's

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audience?

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Usually these people are a little bit disappointed with the numbers that they see in

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their feed, in their stats. Usually sub 100 per

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episode after 30 days. Putting aside for a moment the fact

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that actually if you've got 100 people. Listening to your episode

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within 30 days, that's pretty excellent.

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Think about it from this point of view. If you hired out a

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village hall for the day to do a talk on something you're passionate

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about, and you saw 100 people turn up

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to listen to you give this talk, wouldn't you feel quite proud of that?

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Yet, weirdly, when our podcast is

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published. Globally for a worldwide audience,

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somehow we see that as slightly less than

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putting. That thought to the side for a moment. Because it doesn't matter what I

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say. About that, you are still going to. Be wanting those dopamine hits

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of oh, I really would love to see my episode listens

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grow. Fair enough. So what we're going to talk about

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now is the challenges of growing an. Audience when it comes

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to publishing a podcast and

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some ideas that you might. Want to be looking at in order to grow that

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organic audience. If you've got a bit of budget. For marketing, we

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can cover that too. But this is predominantly going to be for those people

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that want to get the biggest bang for their lack of buck.

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So first of all, before we even. Think about growing an audience, we need to

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understand who our audience is. There's no point trying to get more.

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People listening to this thing if we don't know

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who it's for in the first place. To that end, we need to think.

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About defining our target listener. Who

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are they? What challenges do they face? How do you

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help them? What will they get from listening to your podcast?

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Are you offering transformation? Are you offering a course?

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Is your podcast something that they're going to get something from

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episode to episode? Or is it simply a guide? Is

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it a refresher of something they already know but just need you for the

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mentoring and accountability? All of these questions are very

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important. For you to ask of yourself before. You

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start thinking about growing your audience. You also want to get some

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listener. Feedback from those that you already have listening. Now, I can

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recommend surveys for this. You could offer a voucher, maybe

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for Amazon 50 pound gift voucher. Ask for feedback directly

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within the episodes themselves. If your

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podcast is hosted via its own website, which I highly recommend,

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you could stick some sort of voice note tool on there

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podcast page and podpage offer these built into their own

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systems. So if you don't have a podcast. Website, I highly

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recommend you use one of those two platforms.

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So before we go into some of the actual specific ways that you can grow

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your podcast on the cheap or for free,

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let's talk about the psychology of growth when

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it comes to anything product related. Take for

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example, a new restaurant has opened in a town.

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Nobody knows about it yet. Most companies, when they're doing

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something like this, they want to bring new footfall into their place of

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work, into their business. They will advertise to let

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those customers know they exist. They'll buy their first

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customers. And that's largely what you have to do with the podcast. You

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have to buy your first listeners. If you've got

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to a point where you've plateaued with your organic audience and maybe you're reaching,

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I don't know, between. 70 and 120 listeners per episode,

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maybe. You need to think about how you. Can strategically

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buy a new base level of listeners. You've already got

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those 70 to 120 listeners turning up every single

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episode. That's fine, that's great, you've got those. But how are you going to

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get new listeners coming in? There are a number of ways you can do

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this. You can do the content marketing approach where

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essentially you're setting up your social. Media channels for your show and

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you're promoting. So we're talking lots of posts, different

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kinds of content, audiograms, video

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clips, quote cards, transcript

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segments, threads, you name it. There's lots of

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ways that you can use social media to promote your podcast

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episodes. Blogs are obviously a great idea as well. And

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certainly if you can get a. Blog post published on a high domain.

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Authority website, that's great traffic for your podcast

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website. You can organize to go on other podcasts and promote what

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you do on those shows. You could do a feed drop. That's

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where another podcast allows you to.

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Publish an episode in their feed. This can sometimes be a

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financial arrangement. Or it can just be a swap. One week you

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promote their podcast in. Your feed, the next week they promote. Your podcast

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in their feed. I think we need to manage your. Expectations on how

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effective this can be. You might generate a 2%

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conversion or below. In terms of that, it's probably gonna. Be a handful of

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listeners, but if. It'S something that you feel like trying,

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by all means give that a go.

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But the truth is, in order to grow your podcast, you're probably

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going to need to invest at least a little bit of money into it. One

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of my favorite methods of growing a small podcast and getting

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a slightly bigger audience each time is Facebook ads. They can be extremely

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effective to get you some extra traffic to podcast apps. Specific landing

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pages in which people listen, maybe follow your show,

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in which case. I would be thinking about a follow. Campaign where you can get

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people signed. Up to your newsletter using again, Facebook lead

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generation forms. This can be a really, really good. Method honestly for

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growing more followers more. Quickly, which can definitely help

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with the. Search ranking of your podcast within Apple Podcasts and

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Spotify LinkedIn ads. The same

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LinkedIn I find to be a little bit less effective unless you are

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literally doing a b two B. Podcast, however, great

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targeting similar strategy you. Could use in app

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podcast ads. So we're talking the likes of Acast

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or Spotify. Pocketcasts take ads as well.

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These are great because rather than having to cross a hurdle of someone scrolling

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a social media feed, then they got to take the decision to click on the

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button that will take them to your podcast within an app. Theyre already in the

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app, theyre already. In the modality of listening to

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podcasts. So the conversion rates are going to. Be much higher because youre

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asking them not to go to another app, youre. Just asking them

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to go to another podcast. That can be extremely effective

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for growing your listener traffic. Another thing you can

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try is PR. This is where you create a story

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around a specific episode and then get. That distributed

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to various different publications with the promise of

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either a link to your podcast episode or if you're really lucky,

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they might even embed a player for you. There are lots of different services

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that offer this. PR fire is one. I'm also a big fan of a

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company called Whitepress. Whitepress allows you to get targeted

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publications. That will embed your stories

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within various highly specific blogs and

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websites around the world. This could be a great way of. You getting

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slightly more affordable campaigns published for your

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podcast. If you've got a bit more budget, well, there is

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something a little bit more effective that you can try. You

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can work with podnost podcasting. We have agreements with third

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party providers where we can actually embed your podcast

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in highly relevant blogs and websites around. The world, similar to

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whitepress, but even more targeted to the point

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of actually picking the genders, the age

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and the. Earning brackets of the people visiting these

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websites. If that's something that will be of. Interest to you, then

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please do reach out to me and we could talk. About how we can help

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you to. Grow your podcast audience in a highly

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targeted and relevant way. Absolutely

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no wasted traffic. We don't use bots, you can guarantee

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where people are listening, how old they are, what gender they

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are, if you have a very gender specific product and what their earning

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bracket is. If you're offering courses, this could be a great solution for

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you. I hope that helps. And if you need any more information, you know where

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I am. Do reach out to me. The podmaster is a Podnos

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podcasting production. Find out more about us at Podnos

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Co. Uk. That's podknows

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dot co dot uk.

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