How long should your episode be? Is it 10 minutes, 20, 45, 60 minutes or more. Listen to my thoughts on episode length!
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Speaker:So today we're going to be talking a little bit about the ideal length for your podcast episodes.
Speaker:What are the ideal length for your podcast episodes? Is there an ideal length for your
Speaker:podcast episodes? We're going to find out. We're going to talk a little bit about that. So
Speaker:without further ado, let's get into that. So there is really no ideal podcast episode length.
Speaker:It all depends on a few factors. Content format and audience preference. So that's really
Speaker:That's really what it boils down to. Content, content format, and audience preference.
Speaker:And so here's a couple different sides. Again, you can have... The nice thing about
Speaker:podcasts is you can do whatever you want, right? There's no... I mean, yes, legally, you're going
Speaker:to have some... You may have ramifications if you slander somebody, but there's no...
Speaker:there's not going to be any ramifications on a short episode or a long episode. It's all preference
Speaker:and it's all what you want to do because you are the podcast host. So if you want to have a bite-sized
Speaker:episode or a mid-length episode or a long-form episode, you can do that. But there are a few
Speaker:things to take into consideration. So bite-sized episodes. What do I mean by bite-sized episodes?
Speaker:So these are typically shorter episodes ranging from a few minutes to somewhere around 20
Speaker:minutes.
Speaker:They work well for tips and tricks types of shows, kind of like this one.
Speaker:So this one, if you've noticed, is between 8, 12, 15 minutes.
Speaker:Kind of just depends on what kind of content that I have to put forward that day.
Speaker:But it's fairly short.
Speaker:The other one that's kind of short like that is Pod News.
Speaker:Pod News is two to three minutes every day.
Speaker:That's a daily podcast, but it's really short.
Speaker:And the nice thing about that is they're easy to work in to your content schedule.
Speaker:So your listeners are going to kind of format you into where they fit, where life fits for
Speaker:them.
Speaker:A lot of times people listen on their drive to work, drive from work when they're doing
Speaker:dishes, things like that.
Speaker:And a lot of times those chunks of time are fairly small, you know, between a few minutes
Speaker:to 20 minutes.
Speaker:And so with Bite Size episodes, it's really easy to fit your podcast into their life because
Speaker:they may have only a few minutes each day to listen to you.
Speaker:And so Bite Size episodes work really well for those type of shows.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So the next type of episode is a mid-length episode.
Speaker:And these episodes typically fall within the 20 minutes to 45 minute range.
Speaker:They allow for more in-depth conversations and discussions like interviewing and storytelling.
Speaker:This is a good link for those type of shows because it allows you to get all of your content
Speaker:out.
Speaker:It's not so long that people have to listen in more than one setting because a lot of
Speaker:times you, if you have to listen in more than one setting, people are either not going to
Speaker:listen to the whole thing or they're just going to forget about it and go to something
Speaker:different.
Speaker:So maybe a while before they get back to your episode.
Speaker:And then if your episodes start to stack up because they're so long, they're, they could
Speaker:delete them.
Speaker:They could not listen to the whole thing just because it's, it's really easy to, to get
Speaker:behind.
Speaker:And if you feel like you're behind, you're going to go ahead and try and shortcut that
Speaker:somewhere.
Speaker:And so you're going to probably delete some of your older episodes.
Speaker:I do that.
Speaker:I've done that.
Speaker:If I'm gone for a week and I don't have a lot of time to do my normal podcast listening
Speaker:schedule routine.
Speaker:A lot of times that I just go and go, okay, I'm, it's out.
Speaker:I'm out because I can't listen to all of that content.
Speaker:So mid length episodes, again, those are the 20 to 45 minute range.
Speaker:And those are allowed for a lot of in depth conversation, but interviews, but
Speaker:not too long.
Speaker:And so the thing you have to remember about this is, is with a mid length one,
Speaker:you need to, you need to get into your show fairly quickly.
Speaker:Cause if you're going to be interviewing somebody,
Speaker:It could take a lot longer than the 20 to 45 minutes that you have interviewing.
Speaker:And so you don't want to waste 10 minutes talking banter in the beginning of your show
Speaker:with your co-host because you don't want, because you'll get all of that, you'll waste
Speaker:half of your episode with listening to that.
Speaker:So we don't, we don't want to do that.
Speaker:So then the last thing is long form episodes.
Speaker:And these are the, they exceed the 45 minute mark.
Speaker:They can extend up to hours.
Speaker:So long form podcasts, those I'm thinking shows like Joe Rogan Experience, the No Agenda
Speaker:podcast, things like that that can range long, that can range a long time.
Speaker:And those can be hours long.
Speaker:And so these are really good though for interview based podcasts that dive into that or something
Speaker:that dives into really complex subjects that can take a long time to bring out the content
Speaker:in those episodes. These can be good for sometimes when a story just doesn't fit into a small
Speaker:podcast episode because you can't get it. Sometimes, you know, some podcasts episodes
Speaker:that I've recorded, the story that I'm talking about or the person that I'm interviewing,
Speaker:their story can't fit in 20 to 45 minutes. It just, no matter how hard you try, you just
Speaker:can't do that. So some of the downfalls though of a long form content podcast is...
Speaker:People may not listen to your whole show because they listen while they're driving
Speaker:or their drive is just not that long. If you have a show that has many topics though, what you can do
Speaker:is you can make use of the chapters. And this is where I would say is a good thing to do because
Speaker:if you have chapters and you bounce from topic to topic to topic,
Speaker:It's good to put chapters in your podcast and I can talk about chapters on another episode how to do that
Speaker:And show you guys an example, but the nice thing about chapters is then in some podcast apps
Speaker:It allows you to skip to that point. So let's say you're not interested in the first 25 minutes of topics and you know that maybe
Speaker:Um, how to grow corn and you don't grow corn
Speaker:And so you can skip to a different part of this episode talking about growing beans because you grow beans and so
Speaker:That's one of the things I would say take advantage of if you're going to do a long form show
Speaker:definitely put in the chapter markers in there because it's something that allows your listeners to go back in and
Speaker:Listen to just the parts that they need if they're not gonna fit into a small spot like that. So
Speaker:Guys remember the content and engagement level are crucial factors though because it is important to prioritize, you know
Speaker:Quality over length if you're not gonna don't try to just ramble on to you could because your format is a
Speaker:45 minute show, you know in this episode for me, this is probably gonna be about 10 to 15 minutes and
Speaker:Sure, I could make it in two 45 minutes, but it would be really really long
Speaker:So I don't I don't think that you want to do that. So remember your quality is
Speaker:Remember quality pride prioritize that
Speaker:Overlength to you know, ensure that your donate your duration aligns with your audience's preferences and expectations
Speaker:I would say regularly assess your listener feedback and analytics can help gauge your ideal length too because you may have
Speaker:Your listeners saying we don't want the long episodes
Speaker:We really don't like them or especially if you normally do a long episode and they you give them a short one and they go
Speaker:Hey this whoa, I like that. That's it fits better into my show. So my way I listen to podcasts
Speaker:so guys definitely make sure that you're always
Speaker:assessing your listener feedback and analytics too because
Speaker:You can you can definitely get
Speaker:Some analytics from Apple podcast that will tell you you know people are dropping off 20 to 45 minutes
Speaker:but it
Speaker:You know me but you're you know people are constantly dropping off at that 20 minute mark
Speaker:You know that that's kind of your ideal length too
Speaker:So well not required for podcasting because you can do it however you want it is helpful to keep your episodes roughly the same
Speaker:length every time your audience builds you into their schedule and
Speaker:And if one week you're 10 minutes and the rest you're 90, people are going to have a tough time
Speaker:fitting that into their schedule because they're used to a certain amount of time, but then next
Speaker:week it's really long. So it's, again, you can do what you want because this is your show and you
Speaker:are the producer of the show. There's no 30 minute marks like there is in television. You can do it
Speaker:it how you want, but if you're going to be doing a 30 minute show, be consistent in your
Speaker:30 minute show. Again, it doesn't have to be exactly 30 minutes on the dot. It can be
Speaker:29, 28, 27, 30, whatever, but roughly the same. So that way people know what to expect
Speaker:every time you drop an episode. That way they're not having to try and fit you into their schedule
Speaker:because if they have to work to fit you into the schedule, they're going to drop you like
Speaker:a hot potato and they're gonna not be listening to your podcast anymore. So guys definitely
Speaker:get into a rhythm of trying to get your episodes roughly the same length every time you go
Speaker:record an episode. Also, another good idea too is if you have a mid length show and
Speaker:you have a great interview, let's say, you know, you have an hour and a half interview
Speaker:but your mid-length show normally goes 45 minutes.
Speaker:So what you can do is you can actually either give them, you can cut out and make a normal
Speaker:episode, so make it a 45 minutes, and then do a bonus episode where you're an uncut
Speaker:version like they do with the movies.
Speaker:You see this all the time, uncut, raw, unedited, or the director is a version.
Speaker:Something that's going to be longer than normal, but it's going to be good, great content.
Speaker:So you can give them that bonus episode where you're saying, "Hey guys, this didn't quite
Speaker:fit all into our normal format of our show, but here's the long interview of, you know,
Speaker:as a separate bonus.
Speaker:You don't have to listen to it if you don't want, but if you want more content from this
Speaker:interviewee, check out this bonus episode."
Speaker:Or what you can do too is you can cut it in half, release the second half as a second
Speaker:episode.
Speaker:So a second normal episode.
Speaker:So you can say, "Hey guys, this is a great conversation.
Speaker:We're going to continue this on the next episode and then just continue on like that.
Speaker:You can do that after the fact, like after your podcast is done, you can edit it, cut
Speaker:it down, say your outro and say, "Hey, we're going to do this again," even after the interview.
Speaker:You don't have to do that during the interview.
Speaker:Then you can start a new episode, introduce it.
Speaker:You can say, "Hey, if you've not listened to this previous GAS Part 1, go back and listen
Speaker:to that first because this is a continuation of that."
Speaker:You want to definitely hear the conversation that we had the previous week.
Speaker:I would say, guys, a challenge for this week is for you to decide what length you want
Speaker:your podcast to be.
Speaker:If you have not started your show yet, look at your topics and kind of see how long you
Speaker:think your show might be because your topics might be.
Speaker:If you have already started your show and established your show, take a look and see
Speaker:what your audience likes.
Speaker:Ask them.
Speaker:You can look at Apple Podcast stats and see when people drop off of your show.
Speaker:You can kind of see how long they're listening.
Speaker:Maybe it is time to reformat your show. Maybe it's time to come in not necessarily branding
Speaker:or the way that you do the show, but you're format your length. Maybe it's time to take
Speaker:your hour and a half podcast down to 20 minutes to 30 minutes because your people are going
Speaker:to listen to that more and be more likely to finish your episode.
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