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In this episode of the "I Come First" podcast, host Amie Barsky welcomes clinical psychologist Lorena Martinez to explore the intersection of psychology and ancestry. Lorena delves into how generational trauma can shape our present lives, offering insights into family dynamics and the importance of reclaiming one's place in the family tree. 

The conversation covers practical methods for emotional release, such as somatic practices and ancestral healing, and emphasizes the significance of self-care. Also discussed are the challenges and rewards of breaking generational cycles, particularly for mothers. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to understand and overcome inherited emotional patterns.

What We Explored This Episode

06:14 Psychology meets Ancestry

18:24 Ancestral Healing and Generational Trauma

20:13 Intergenerational Trauma

22:47 Generational Emotional Suppression

28:56 Acceptance and Forgiveness in Relationships

33:23 Breaking Generational Cycles

34:12 Somatics and Emotional Releasing

Memorable Quotes

“The way we reclaim our power is when we take our place in our family tree. When we have been our sisters' mothers, our mothers' mothers, or when we haven't taken our role as the child, we can’t reclaim whatever life has for us."

"When your grandmother was pregnant with your mother at four months, the egg that would become you was already there. So whatever your grandma lived through, you were already receiving those codes."

"Our parents gave us what was given to them. Understanding that helps to step into a place of peace with what happened. They did what they knew, and we can choose to break the cycle."

Episode Mentioned

Rupert Sheldrake's Research on Morphic Fields - https://www.sheldrake.org/ 

Family Constellation by Bert Hellinger - https://www.hellinger.com/en/family-constellation/ 

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Lorena’s Website - https://www.thegoodkarmalife.com/ 

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Lorena’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/loremarti/?hl=en

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Lorena Martinez

0:00 - 0:31

The way we reclaim our power is when we take our place in our family tree. So when we have been our sisters mothers, our mothers mothers, or when we been not taking our role as the child where we always like, ah, this happened with mom, this happened with dad, this happened with my siblings, what is happening when we not in our place because of the family dysfunction, we can reclaim whatever is the life has for us.

Amie Barsky

0:35 - 3:01

Hello, hello, and welcome to the I come first podcast, where putting yourself first is not selfish, it's self care. And self care is essential. Yes, you heard me right. Here we are flipping the script, and I'm going to show you how. I'm your host, Amy Barsky, and I'm so excited you're here. If you're tired of feeling overworked and underappreciated, this is a sanctuary where I'll share my entire journey as a guide to help you break through your patterns limiting beliefs and societal pressures to be perfect. These juicy weekly conversations with myself and guest experts will be filled with practical tools, advice, inspiring stories, and unstoppable energy. So if you're ready, then buckle up. It's time to ignite your inner fire and make I come first your new daily mantra. Hello, beautiful humans. First off, I'm coming from my hometown in southern New Jersey. I'm here for a quick visit to enjoy some time with my friends and some fun shenanigans with my family as well. Now, speaking of family, have you ever thought that there could be some hidden secrets in your family's past causing the underlying sense of that overwhelm or fear that you might be experiencing in your present life? I'm your host, Amy Barsky, and this week on the I come first podcast, we are diving into the fascinating world where psychology meets ancestry. Our guest, Lorena Martinez, is a brilliant clinical psychologist, and she shares the code on how your family's past could be shaping your present life. She gives such beautiful examples to understand your family roots and how they can be the key to putting yourself first without the guilt trip. Yes, you heard me right. Without the guilt trip. Seriously, have you ever wondered why it's so hard sometimes to prioritize yourself? Or maybe why you keep repeating the same patterns over and over and over again? Well, get ready for some eye opening insights that'll have you looking at your family tree in a whole new light. This episode is all about breaking free from those old habits. This is about tuning into your inner wisdom so that you can finally put yourself at the top of your to do list. So trust me, this is one family reunion that you will not want to miss. And before we jump into today's episode, here is a quick and exciting announcement. All right.

Lorena Martinez

3:01 - 3:01

All right.

Amie Barsky

3:01 - 3:23

We have Lorena Martinez here today, and I am so excited that you're joining us on the icon first podcast. Welcome to this beautiful conversation that I'm so excited to have with you. And will you please do a little intro and a little bit about your history and how you got to where you are short as possible so we can dive into the yummy questions we have for you?

Lorena Martinez

3:23 - 4:11

Oh, yes. The soundbite. I was trained as a life coach first in Colombia, after having a beautiful experience in London, went back to Columbia, got trained as a life coach. Corporate coach did that, then realized that there was something deeper, that I could go deeper. And so I went and did my clinical psychology degree back in Columbia. And then I moved to United States. And when I moved to United States, I couldn't practice right away as a clinical psychologist. So I started to go really deep into my own practices that I have done back in my country for my own healing, which were all spiritual practice. And so in that moment where I couldn't practice in United States, I was like, what can I do to still be of service and to still be connected with purpose?

Amie Barsky

4:11 - 4:11

Yeah.

Lorena Martinez

4:11 - 4:30

So I started doing different workshops and circles in San Diego, California, different yoga spaces and even a beautiful cacao place. I started doing circles and workshops that in my mind, what I was trying to do was to bridge those two together. I love that.

Amie Barsky

4:30 - 5:22

And that's actually where we met. We met at a beautiful women's circle networking opportunity that was so beautiful. And you offered such a powerful gift when you made the salts, the bath salts for everybody. And it was such a communal experience where we all put intentions in. And I, after that night, I said, I have to meet this woman. I have to meet this woman. Who is this woman? She's just pure magic. And so I feel like we've connected. And ever since then, I was like, oh, man, I've got this incredible woman in my circle of beautiful sisters. So thank you so much for stepping outside of perhaps what could have been a restriction of, like, oh, I can't practice what I'm usually doing in Colombia here yet. So let me keep moving towards my purpose and fulfilling my heart and being of service. And so thank you for that experience.

Lorena Martinez

5:22 - 5:33

It's been truly magical. It's been truly magical to understand that you don't have to necessarily follow the rules in the right way. Right. Like, follow the structure.

Amie Barsky

5:33 - 6:13

Absolutely. Well, you know, getting to know you and how you are so powerful in the communities in San Diego. And where you are is also in Texas. And talking about the bridge, the bridge between spirituality and science. Let's jump into generational trauma. This is something that I personally have been on a path for my mother, for my relationship with her, for my grandmother, my relationship with her before both of them have passed away. And how might the emotional baggage from our family past, our history, affect a woman's ability to prioritize herself today?

Lorena Martinez

6:14 - 8:16

Well, there is like, two ways. And what is magical is the two ways, if you find the explanation. So let's start with the generational trauma. So the way I do ancestral healing is based on a practice created by Bert Hellinger called family constellation. So if you've never heard of that, it's healing that generational trauma. So Berhelinger did this through something called psychodrama, which is technique that is widely used in psychology. But then there was this other, or there is still this scientist called Rupert Sheldbrick, and he started researching why the schools of fish will swim together. So, like, in such a coordination. And they don't have, like, signs like we turning to the right, returning to the left. They're just, there's something higher that connects them into what they're going to do as a group. And that's called the quantum field. So the physicist was very fascinated by this and the same thing with lots of births. So he started researching first, what was that? That keep them together and knowing what they have to do without, again, science. Or, like, we turn into right to left. Like, what was that? And that was explained by quantum physics. So there is this feel that we generate independently, but also when we connect with others, these feel. Connect to the other person. And that's why sometimes we're able to. If you walk into a room, you kind of feel absolutely temperature, emotionally the room. Or if you meet your friend and your friend is not feeling super happy, maybe she's low. You can feel it. So that's your quantum field coming together and exchanging information.

Amie Barsky

8:16 - 8:34

So what a great explanation. I love how simply indigestible that is for someone like myself, who's not super woo and learning and growing and willing to understand the deeper levels of ancestral healing or generational trauma. Wow. Thank you for that. Go ahead. I didn't mean to cut you off.

Lorena Martinez

Don't worry. So then Rupert Sheldrake was like, okay, he went deeper and he wanted to understand how the field that connects us can affect you. And, like, in your generation, and so he did our research with Mai. So he took Octavo, father and mother, and he exposed them to a traumatic event. In this case, was a very loud sound. So before that, conditioning. So before he would bring a cherry blossom for the mices to smell, and right after, he would just bang something really hard they would get, and their blood pressure would go up and their heartbeat would go up. Then this couple of mites had the first generation, the second generation of babies. So they were grandparents, and then they had more. They went, I think, all the way to the 7th or 8th. He would test with every generation, and he found that just by exposing them to the smell of the cherry blossom, they would freak out. So the trauma traumatic event was taken out. It was just for the parents, the loud sound. But then every generation that came after just by being exposed to the cherry blossom smell would freak out all the way to the 7th and the 8th generation. So they never experienced it.

Amie Barsky

All because of the cherry blossom scent and the.

Lorena Martinez

Connection with the loud sound.

Amie Barsky

Wow.

Lorena Martinez

That experience the parents. So the parents experience descent, and right after descent, the very traumatic sound, very loud sound. So the next generations, just by feeling the scent of the cherry blossom, react in the fight or fly way, right? So the parent knew that when cherry blossom was around, something really loud was going to happen. The brain evolves in this way where it's like, oh, cherry blossom. It just. Something awful happens after cherry blossom smell. So the brain process that, and then that becomes the expression of your DNA epigenetics. So the next generation can be quote unquote safe, but safe not always means healthy, right? If translate that to human behavior, right. What we have been doing is what had kept us alive as a clan, as a tribe, at the lineage, whether it's functional or dysfunctional, we're here, so we're gonna keep doing it, whatever that is.

Amie Barsky

So what I'm hearing is if my mother and her mother and her mother, or let's say my great grandmother, experienced something traumatic, something in her body, and that got carried down to my grandmother, my mother, that may have gotten passed down to me. And because of that safety mechanism that's within ourselves unconsciously most of the time, that might be actually holding us back and preventing us from prioritizing ourselves today, because something in there says, no, that's not. That's not how it goes. Like, you're supposed to, let's say people, please, or be the good girl or do the right thing in order to get love or feel like you belong with a group or with your family. Dynamics. Is that accurate, you think?

Lorena Martinez

Exactly. Because the other way of transmission is through behavior. Okay, so your grandmother. So how your great grandmother was always people pleasing and putting everyone else first and, you know, feeding everybody and maybe perhaps after feeding herself and getting everyone ready and getting everyone bathed and in bed, and she was always the last one. The last one. The last one, yeah. Grandmother grows up seeing this dynamic to belong in this clan. What we do is that we leave ourselves laugh, and we don't prioritize our self care or our self love or our expression. Like, women in our family, we don't say what we feel right? We keep it inside because it's better, because, you know, we have to be strong women. We don't have to be complaining or I, you know, whatever it is in your clan, those get past.

Amie Barsky

Exactly. Like, in my family dynamics, you couldn't express yourself emotionally. So. And I see it now, but I didn't see it then. In my upbringing, I was a very sensitive child, and I was crying a lot. Like, apparently, according to my mom, I was the worst baby ever. Like, all I did was cry. I was very. I don't just. Things were just very. They hit me hard, I guess, and I was crying a lot. And I would hear the words, Amy, why are you crying? What's wrong with you? Like, and I started to think something was actually wrong with me. And if I look back now and I see how the dynamics of my grandmother and my mother and their relationship and how there was hardly any self expression, any expression of emotions or how you were feeling or maybe asking for what you need, anything, like, that was. It was a no. Like, you just didn't do it. And so that totally makes sense to me. You know, as I started to learn and heal my own limiting beliefs of why that got passed down into my epigenetics, my language of love, and just the way I behaved with partnerships, specifically romantics, partners, now that I'm looking at, I'm like, wow. To ask for what I needed in my partnerships, I was so afraid. I was so afraid because I was deemed too much, too sensitive, too intense.

Lorena Martinez

I love that you say that, because I feel like the women that you and I are and the women probably listening to this and the women that would come to circles are the women that are finally allowing to feel what wasn't felt. And again, that could come across as, like, you're too sensitive. You need to grow a thicker skin. The word is rough. Like, grow up. Like, no. It turns out that I've been carrying, like, generations of generations of. Generations of pain that might manifest, like, you're really sensitive, but it can also manifest as disease, as cancer, as so many disease and disorders and autoimmune disease, especially in women, because all of this has never been expressed. All of this has never been spoken. So a lot of the times, it's like, what do I need to heal? Like, what do you feel you need? You feel like you need to healthily punch a pillow? Let it out.

Amie Barsky

I'm such a fan of that.

Lorena Martinez

There's so much pain behind before as the women. There's so much pain again, for all the things that have happened on earth to us, but also those of all the things that we were not allowed. So punching the pillow, going to an open space, healthily screaming from the top of your, getting in touch with your.

Amie Barsky

Body, I love this, and it's so important. I, for one, know firsthand, and I didn't realize it until I was working with a particular coach around emotional well being and rage and anger, specifically, that I was carrying rage and anger from my grandmother and my mother because I was feeling this. This energy in my body, but it didn't feel like it was mine, and it was really wild, because the more I started to recognize, like, okay, how can I understand what's mine and what's not mine and do the healing with all of it in such a loving and compassionate way? My gosh, my body, my nervous system started to move through the world in such a different way. Less hyper vigilant, less hyper, like, just on alert all the time, and a lot more just feeling safe in my own skin. And it's so true. It's so true how that safe place to have a tantrum, to punch the pillows, to play some raging music, and allow your emotions to simply be expressed, is one of the key elements to not sending your body into the spiral of an autoimmune or dis ease or I inflammation and all of that. A lot of it comes from, like you mentioned, it comes from our emotional body. Our bodies have to communicate it some way, because they want our bodies, our souls want to heal. That's what we desire, right? Our soul is evolving every single day. And in order to evolve in the most authentic way, we've got to let go of and start to move through the gunk that's clogging up, let's say, the hose that's tied in some knots. You know, if you tie a hose in knots a couple places, the water can't get through. And sometimes we are taught, often we're taught, suppress the emotions, don't feel them. It's not. It's not safe to do that. Women don't do that. Like, women don't get angry. Just like women don't, like, I don't know, poop or far right. We're still human beings, and it's so it's. We start to unkink and unravel the knots and the hoes and give ourselves a safe space and a freedom, a permission slip to say, and put that baggage down. Let me tell you, everything changes when you start allowing that for yourself.

Lorena Martinez

Yeah. And there's something really powerful here that I want maybe to, like, just understand how powerful is the ancestral, what are what we live through, how our ancestors are expressing through us, too, is that when just think about this, for me, was such a click. When your grandmother was pregnant with your mother at four months, when your mom was four months inside your grandma's body, the egg that will be you was there. So whatever your grandma lived through felt, didn't express you as a little egg. Were already receiving those coats. And your mom.

Amie Barsky

Wild, right? So wild just blows my mind. It's like sometimes I'm like, whoa. Like, we keep learning so much about the human experience and how it all works, and it just blows my mind. I love it.

Lorena Martinez

It's truly magical. Again, it's that science and that magic, because it's just so powerful to understand this concept. It gives you so much power back. Like, my grandma was a woman that never spoke for herself or was really angry. So, like you said, maybe this anger is not mine, but I'm gonna release it to empower myself not to feel a victim of what happened to them. I'm gonna reclaim my power.

Amie Barsky

Correct.

Lorena Martinez

Release. And I just think that. Yeah. Magical.

Amie Barsky

So we kind of mentioned. My next question was about effective methods and ways in which to start to tune into their gut feelings and start putting themselves first is obviously releasing some of the stuff we've been carrying. Are there any other ways that you support women around releasing those emotional. I'll use the word baggage or history that's living inside of our bodies energetically.

Lorena Martinez

Do, like, a combo. And I think that as holistic beings, we need that combo. Right. So, in family constellations, traditionally, you're not encouraged to do any somatic with that. But, like, I, the women, when we are exploring the tree and when we are finding whatever it is that we finding, I encourage them to do the somatic expression of whatever is coming up right now. Like, I don't know. My mom was never there for me, my mom was always like a child. I felt always like I was my mother's mom. Like, then press that frustration. Just say what you need to say. Write a letter, burn the letter again, make it so it goes through your body because so healing. And then the other part, which is sometimes harder when we need to actually thank them. The way we reclaim our power is when we take our place in our family trees. So when we have been our sisters mothers, our mothers mothers, or when we been not taking our role as the child, right, where we always like, ah, this happened with mom, this happened with dad, this happened with my siblings. Like, what is happening when we not in our place because of the family dysfunction, we can reclaim whatever is that. Life has health, abandon, empowerment, because we are just looking back to others. So the first thing do in the sessions, but you can do it at home every day. If you feel there's something that you need to work on, there is honor their journey for whatever it was, however messy or not messy, unholy, or whatever name or word you want to put in there. You are alive. You are here for a reason. So it's acknowledging that they heard you. Somatic expression, but then saying, thank you for giving me life.

Amie Barsky

Yes. And I have to say, full transparency, that's hard work to do for myself. I'll speak for myself. That was hard for me to do for a good chunk of my healing process, because I was in such a place of victim mentality and pointing the finger and blaming and saying, it's your fault. I'm like this, it's your fault. My life's so messed up, all the things. And when I. And this was the biggest shift in my relationship with my mom, when I finally decided to accept her for exactly who she is, not trying to change her or fix her or make her love me more or be the mom I always wanted, like, any of that energy, I just surrendered to it. And I said, you know, what? The place of acceptance of what is and what was is my, in my opinion, the quickest path to peace. And so when I decided that, then I was able to step into an element of forgiveness, of forgiveness for the times that she wasn't there for me when I needed her. You know, when I was five and nine and a teenager and all the things, I went through all kinds of stages, right, to really unravel the energy that I was holding as, like, you know, that frustration or that rage that just was built up for decades in my body. And I'm so glad I got to do that. Especially because, you know, I have friends who. Their mom passed away, and they didn't get an opportunity to clean some of that up. And it's not to say you can't do it afterwards. You certainly can. I've done ceremonies where I've actually spoken to my mom, who's already transitioned. She's passed away four years now. And so I just have to say, though, that was a big, massive shift, energetically, for me in my own body, in my relationship with my mom, to really just come to a place of acceptance, move into a space of forgiveness, so, therefore, we can both just love each other for exactly this present moment and be so grateful for the lives and this. This path that we've been walking together.

Lorena Martinez

Yeah. And I would say that, yes, that's the hardest step, but it's the step that is gonna get the far death right. I think that's something that really helps to step into that place of peace with what was or what happened is to understand that our parents gave us what was given to them before us. So something that really helped me to do my journey with my parents. They're both alcoholic. One is functional, one is not functional, but they're both very codependent on alcohol. Something that really helped me was to step into the. Like, the shoes of my dad when he was four. Taking that moment, just putting together all the stories I heard from the siblings, from who my grandmother was, my grandfather was, and then coming down to how was my father feeling inside when he was four? What was given to him when he was four? And I realized that not even a hug. Hug, like, nothing. He was taken to brothels and bars at the age of four by his grandfather. And my grandmother never intervened. So I was like, of course he didn't have. He didn't even have it for himself.

Amie Barsky

Yeah, well, he did what he knew. It sounds like it's a learned behavior. This is what I know, therefore, this is what I do.

Lorena Martinez

Exactly. You eat the little that was given to you, and you maybe try a little. Little bit more, but it was all you had. It's almost like I come to you asking you for a 20, but you only have a five. Like, I really only have a five. I'm sorry, I just have a five. You're like, I want 20, but I want more.

Amie Barsky

Wow. Well, what I really want to celebrate is I know you have a daughter, and you are breaking the cycle, and we are cycle breakers, right? To recognize this family psychological and behavioral patterns that are not helping us actually stand in our power, own our worth, use our voices, ask for what we need, express ourselves fully. And this is the pattern that gets to be unpacked and really breaking that cycle so that doesn't get passed from the next generation to the next generation to the next generation. And that is huge to start creating an outlet where it's guilt free. Cause I think there's also a distinction. I'd love to hear your, as a mom, your insight on the guilt free aspect. Cause I feel like a lot of. I serve a lot of moms, a lot of my clients are mothers. And there's so much guilt when it comes to putting themselves first.

Lorena Martinez

I think the mom guilt is so real and especially for us conscious moms that want to break the circle, the cycle, that realize what was before and we want to do something different for our kids and for the world. I feel that's really genuine. I don't know if we could ever like not feel it. But what helps me is just to think that how I navigate those hard moments, how I navigate when I'm not feeling great because I'm processing some emotions or something that is happening around is hard, or when I'm overwhelmed and stressed, I always think like how I navigate that going through that junk is going to inspire her for when she is in the future. Navigating those hard moments, that junk. Like if she sees me always in my grateful putting myself first. I never not put myself first. She's not going to know how to navigate when it's her time to be in those moments. So that's the first thing I tried to do. Just to realize that she doesn't need a perfect mom, but she needs a human mom that perhaps models better how to navigate. And then when it comes to self care, I'm really assertive with her, kind and assertive. I'm like, my love mama needs some self care time so mama can give you more. So mama need to sleep a little bit longer today. Would you take a nap with me? Or I really craving something. Let's go get it. Recently there was a concert here, my favorite band. And it was like 2 hours and a half from where we were and I really wanted to go. And I mean she loves the band too, but she's like, it's so far, it's so long. It's like my love mommy really wants to see this band. I know you're going to enjoy it, but sometimes mama needs to get some joy, then I can be better for you. So I think that even if our kids are little, we can tell them. And that's again, going to model.

Amie Barsky

Yeah. It's a permission slip to say it's okay to have needs, and it's okay to meet your own needs and fill up your own cup. And in the same time, you're giving her a place to express herself and ask for what she needs because she's noticing that you're asking for what you need, you know, and it gets to be that dynamic of a safe place to emotionally emote, you know, if there is sadness or rage or whatever's going on. And we also get to have this beautiful experience of speaking up for ourselves.

Lorena Martinez

Yeah. And sometimes what I do is like, okay, we're gonna have a half jest day. There's gonna be certain boundaries, but you're gonna share with me what is really wanna do today, and we're gonna do it.

Amie Barsky

I love that. It's like there's a movie out there. I think Jennifer Gardner's in it. It's called yes, mom or something. And she gives basically a yes to the kids, and they just have a blast all day long doing really fun things, of course, with boundaries in place of nothing, you know, too crazy. But it's so important. It's so, so, so important. I love all of this. Well, my gosh, I feel like we covered a lot between the bridge of spirituality and psychology and somatics and emotional releasing and I. And how we really get to close the gap between the science of it all, because I feel that somatics is becoming a beautiful common phrase these days, and a lot of people are curious, well, what is that? What is somatics? And soma means body. It means working with the energetics of the body, the storage of what you're holding onto, because our bodies are a living library of every experience. So if we're only doing the mental gymnastics and we're working up here all the time, and we're not moving below the neck to see what's happening down below with the patterns and behaviors, the fight and flight, the freezer fawn, you know, and the generational things that are coming through, then we're going to be stuck in a loop, and there's going to be kinks in the hoes that really create a feeling of not fulfilled in relationship or career or just in your vibrancy in your life and your energy in general. So I'm really just. This was a powerful conversation. I'm so glad you took time out of your busy day. Cause I know your little one takes, you know, she's a top priority. Cause she gets to be because you're generational, right? You're breaking the generations of being there for your daughter. And I just. Cheers to you. I love that.

Lorena Martinez

I love that. Thank you. Not a lot of people is talking about that. We carry in our body more than just our story. It's so true.

Amie Barsky

And when I have clients that are doing the blame game like I did, you know, my mom did this. And I go, so it's your mom's fault, and your mom's mom's fault and her mom's fault and her mom's mom's mom's fault. Like, it's just, you know, we could go down the line. Oh, my gosh. It's so good, though, because we have this information, and with information and awareness, then we can make different choices in our lives. And that is the game. It's practicing that pivot. So speaking of pivot, I'm going to wrap it up because I know you got to get back to your little one. Where can people find you, first and foremost, where can people find your beautiful energy in the world?

Lorena Martinez

What's the best place, the best way, if you want to keep updated with all the things happening, will be Instagram and the webpage. If you're curious about, like, the sessions that I offer, there's, like, really cool things.

Amie Barsky

Perfect. I love that. And then will you please share with us one of your daily I come first practices that fills your cup up so that you can give from a place of love and overflow to your family and loved ones.

Lorena Martinez

So that is when everyone goes to work or school. I do magna therapy on myself. So I put magnets along my body to, like, get everything moving and get the organs all happy. But then I put a meditation where I created for myself, and it starts by giving thanks to my ancestors, giving back whatever, if not mine. But then it continues with me telling myself all the things I am already that I want to manifest. But I tell them in present tense, like, I am abundant, I am wealth, I'm health, all the things. And I listen to that for about 40 minutes. And when I, like, come back from my meditation, I literally feel like a new person. It's just so empowering. And I feel like I'm addressing different levels of who I am. Like, my body, my mind. Yeah. And I. At the beginning, I didn't do it as often, but then I was like, this is unnegotiable.

Amie Barsky

Yeah.

Lorena Martinez

And now I'm so glad because it definitely gives me the capacity to give more.

Amie Barsky

Yes. And I feel that it's so important to set some non negotiables so that because I know so many people, I don't have time, Amy. I don't have time. You know, so many of my clients, that's their biggest thing. You know, they've got careers, they've got families, they've got partnerships and social circles. There's no time. And like you just said, if you spend, even if it's five minutes, five minutes a day, just filling up your own cup and doing something really beautiful for yourself, trust me, it will make a difference. It will certainly make a difference. So. Well, thank you, Lorena, for joining us. It was such a pleasure to have you to see with, to chat with you. Oh my gosh, I'm just really excited for all the things that were shared here and for the listener to really take on some of those for herself and start to implement some practices. And of course, reach out to either of us if you need support anytime, any day. These and so have a beautiful, beautiful rest of your day. Thanks for joining us in the Icon first podcast.

Lorena Martinez

Thank you, thank you. Thank you for having me.

Amie Barsky

We'll see you next time everyone. Thanks for tuning into today's episode. I know your time is valuable and I'm so grateful that we get a chance to share this space together. If you're wanting more from myself or any of my guests right now, I am a hell yes to that. I love your enthusiasm, so let's make it happen. Simply check out the links in the show notes for all the information on the latest offerings, programs, and possibilities to connect outside this space. Or feel free to send me a DM on Instagram. Amybarskycoaching and of course, if you have any reflections or feedback, I am all ears. Also, if you feel this episode supported you, will you please leave a rating and a review? Your reviews really help people to discover the show and if you know of anyone you feel would benefit from this podcast, please pass it along. A special thanks to my parents for always watching over me and for my team at Fullcast for making this show possible. I can't wait to be back in your ears next week. Trust me, you won't want to miss this next episode.