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Eternal Rewards in the Less Glamorous with Felipe Simoes - LM0234
Episode 234 • 15th April 2022 • Leaders Moment • Scott McClelland
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It can be hard to stay motivated when our work doesn't feel glamorous.

Felipe Simoes talks about how his barbershop is a place of ministry, and how attitude and skill, combined with faithfulness in small things, yield eternal rewards. As you listen, you'll be encouraged to remain faithful - especially if what you're doing seems mundane.

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Scott McClelland:

When you think about believers in business, does your mind immediately go to

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powerful executives or maybe scrappy entrepreneurs?

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What if God's plan for a believer in business was much less glamorous, uh, but no less power.

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Today, you're going to hear one of those stories of incredible faithfulness and the

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small things that is showing eternal rewards.

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Welcome to leaders moment by FXMissions, podcasting.

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There's a link in the description and you can find everything for this episode at leadersmoment.org/234.

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Today.

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You'll hear about how success requires both skills and attitude and how both are key in being faithful to your calling.

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You'll discover how God's using a barbershop as a place of ministry as well.

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We love hearing from you, especially on social media quick.

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Thanks for your engagement to Brittany, Tony and Kelsey.

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Hi, Scott McClellan here with your FX missions leadership moment.

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That's right.

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This is the believers in business series, kind of a new series we're doing.

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I'm excited to be with you for this and happy to be bringing you this recording.

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Abroad.

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Yes, that's right.

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A second episode here that I'm doing from Brazil, south America.

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If you didn't hear the first one, I encourage you to go back and get a listen on that.

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Thankful to be reunited south America style with my good friend and a former Coken Spire failed leap CMOs.

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Hello, Felipe.

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Are you there?

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Ah, here fairly good to be where you bro.

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And we've been together for, I don't know, maybe close to a week or something.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Here in south America.

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Absolutely springtime is coming on down here, exact opposite of us north American guys in terms of our seasons, but it's been a

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wonderful time and good, good, good to be reunited with Felipe.

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We are in our believers in business series.

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Felipe, are you in business?

Filipe Simoes:

Yeah.

Filipe Simoes:

As I'm business, about five years already.

Scott McClelland:

Okay.

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Five years already in business.

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Well, you are an overcomer then because you didn't close up shop in the first year.

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So that's really cool and important.

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I think in our times to get past that first year, let's rewind a little bit though, before

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we get really into the details of your business.

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And let's talk a little bit about you Philly, where are you from?

Filipe Simoes:

I'm from Brazil.

Filipe Simoes:

The name of my city is cheaper.

Filipe Simoes:

I'm 40 years old.

Filipe Simoes:

I've been here since I was born.

Filipe Simoes:

Besides the time that they stay in us for two years.

Filipe Simoes:

That's

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it.

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Okay.

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South of Brazil is the area of Brazil that you live in and a city called Cory Achieva.

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We will be there tomorrow.

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It will be my first time.

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There, there are some big cities in Brazil, but, uh, your city is a large one important city there and they tell me it's one

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of the more beautiful cities that is as large as yours is.

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Full of parks and beauty.

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Is there something you want to

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say about Cora Chiba?

Filipe Simoes:

I have a lot of things to say.

Filipe Simoes:

You're writing on that, that you said about the parks.

Filipe Simoes:

We have a lot, a lot of sparks.

Filipe Simoes:

We have a 2 million people.

Filipe Simoes:

So as you check it, there are major CDs in Brazil.

Filipe Simoes:

Like we stay all together, pack it in the back in the capitals.

Filipe Simoes:

So that's why we have a lot of foreign.

Filipe Simoes:

'cause everybody's like my city is too many people.

Filipe Simoes:

They see that we're recording is 3

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million people, big cities in Brazil and Brazil is really big too, and very diverse,

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thankful to be here and thankful to be with you.

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Can you tell us a little bit about your background?

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I know that we met when you were in ministry school in the mid two thousands, you were coming to the U S.

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Did you always want to travel?

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Did you always think that you would be living in the states for a couple of years when you were younger?

Filipe Simoes:

Uh, so let's make a big story is short.

Filipe Simoes:

I was on a family, kind of poor.

Filipe Simoes:

I can say my daddy work with fixing fires and they had the dream to study abroad, Theo

Filipe Simoes:

college, or didn't know anything about outside.

Filipe Simoes:

I started studying English and they just didn't.

Filipe Simoes:

And that's the after dads that's experienced, uh, had a life change.

Filipe Simoes:

I thoughts with my.

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We can do a lot of more.

Filipe Simoes:

So when they came back to Brazil after us, I said, I'm going to do the sat test.

Filipe Simoes:

And then we on the past and the past, and this a university, that's one of the best of the country.

Filipe Simoes:

I studied administration.

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And after that, I was doing some internships with import export.

Filipe Simoes:

And after that, I went to start my own business.

Filipe Simoes:

And then came an idea by my sister and they started to barbershop.

Filipe Simoes:

So we were there.

Filipe Simoes:

I ministering there also.

Scott McClelland:

Awesome, man, I know you do good work one day.

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My beard will be longing enough for you to shape.

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Great.

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I'm hopeful.

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I don't have a beard like you, your beard is very awesome.

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Has some length, and you're a great advertisement for your barbershop.

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So I'm excited to know more about your process on the barbershop.

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An idea came through your sister, you're saying, and you didn't have a background in this kind of work.

Filipe Simoes:

You're completely right when I left the US, I left it with the mind actually, uh, we, I had

Filipe Simoes:

the opportunity to learn with you and a special force.

Filipe Simoes:

We work working physical training, and we did some things that they were very hard to do.

Filipe Simoes:

The very phrase that always sad to be born before the trips were be mentally prepared.

Filipe Simoes:

So I was mentally prepared.

Filipe Simoes:

And now the other one you're going to remember.

Filipe Simoes:

That's don't we?

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So.

Filipe Simoes:

Yeah, I know that your last few, because it's very true and it was repeating all the time.

Filipe Simoes:

So now when I came back, I said, I'm not going to quit.

Filipe Simoes:

No, I spent four months studying, like I would wake up study.

Filipe Simoes:

I would sleep study.

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And for four months I did that and got the SAT.

Filipe Simoes:

So I started the bees and as I said, I'm against.

Filipe Simoes:

So I didn't have the back round as you sad when we, we see life with ads, toot, I believe in the

Filipe Simoes:

80% of our lives is at two and 20% is skills.

Filipe Simoes:

So we, few, we have the attitude, we can change environments.

Filipe Simoes:

We can start our own business and we just have to go through it.

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Thinking the problem.

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I read an article that you wrote that you said I'm not going to remember the whole thing in English, but you are here to

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help me that thing yet is you can't transcend the obstacle.

Filipe Simoes:

Looking to them and I, right.

Filipe Simoes:

Yeah.

Filipe Simoes:

So that's the thing.

Filipe Simoes:

So we started the business and I'm going to do it.

Filipe Simoes:

I'm going to then work through that's the phrase that they heard Denzel Washington say, and they kept that in my mind.

Filipe Simoes:

Hard work works, working really hard.

Filipe Simoes:

It's what successful people do.

Filipe Simoes:

And that's our

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calling good one, just to little context, uh, to folks who wouldn't otherwise know, I was

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involved in a training program where we were preparing ministry students for missions type of exercises.

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There was a physical company.

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There was a spiritual component.

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There was a teaching component and there was a kind of a readiness mindset that we were trying to impart.

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And that's where Felipe and I worked together.

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I was part of the leadership team and he was at that time a student and he was in the program for a couple of years,

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ended up being a real leader in and doing some great things.

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And we were thankful to have him and his contribution.

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And that program and it was a little while back as the same way to say it.

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I think we were younger men at that time.

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Phillip, I think maybe almost 15 years ago when we met.

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Does that sound right?

Filipe Simoes:

Yeah.

Filipe Simoes:

That is 14 years ago.

Scott McClelland:

We don't want to make it more than it was anyway.

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The idea that we can't transcend the obstacles, if we're focused on those, we have to focus on a solution or something other

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than the obstacle, as a part of having a mindset to overcome.

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We can't get too focused.

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It's like a saying, I heard one time and maybe you will translate this into Portuguese and,

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and use it like I'm doing some of your quotes.

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The guy said, when you're digging for gold, you can't get focused.

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On dirt.

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Wow.

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That's the way obstacles are.

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You had already mindset, you were focused, you push through, you did the preparation, you got these testing elements out

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of the way you decided what business you wanted to be in and you stepped out and you got going, and this was five years.

Filipe Simoes:

Yes to all its final years.

Scott McClelland:

Tell us a little bit about your barbershop itself.

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I know you've shown me around.

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We'd done some video stuff there.

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Maybe tomorrow.

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I'll get there and can take a look and, and spend some time in your barbershop as we're traveling to your city tomorrow.

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But can you tell me what kind of solutions, what kind of services that you offer?

Filipe Simoes:

Uh, I've been thinking about barbershop and the, what do we do there?

Filipe Simoes:

When I talk to missionaries, they say, I didn't know if it can leave this place.

Filipe Simoes:

It's the best place for a ministry, because there are shaping beards who are shaving hairs, but

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the person has to stay with you for 30 minutes.

Filipe Simoes:

So when you're sharing a life life with their family, your wife, your kids, You're sharing life.

Filipe Simoes:

It's literally prophesied because it props is about and define comfort build.

Filipe Simoes:

So where sharing lives or lives and people would just like stay there and see that they're burning up.

Filipe Simoes:

They're being comforted with that because they're passing through the same things that you're passing through.

Filipe Simoes:

So, but the way that you say with the faith that you have, they're encouraged by death.

Filipe Simoes:

So it's, uh, when I first started, I didn't realize that would be like that.

Filipe Simoes:

And now.

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As we are, again, tolls are with, by the end of the times, we're getting closer to the Lord were opportunities that are coming

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even more like new believers, asking him about some things.

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And then we can go deeper there.

Filipe Simoes:

Of course we don't bother that.

Filipe Simoes:

Those ones that they are just there because they feel something, oh, the holy Spirit's gonna going there, but

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we're ministering those ones that they're available.

Filipe Simoes:

That.

Filipe Simoes:

Like good place to minister.

Filipe Simoes:

I could advise every missionary to do to open business like that.

Scott McClelland:

I think you're one of God's secret weapons in the barbershop.

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Maybe he's using you to do things there that.

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What wouldn't expect or maybe other people wouldn't expect it is often said.

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I think that, especially in the beauty side of things in the beauty shop, that the ladies are therapist

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for the ladies who are coming to get their hair down.

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Of course they're spinning.

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Sometimes two or three hours there at a time.

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So of course they need to get into a lot of conversations and those kinds of things, but you're saying you're seeing

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something similar with the guys there at the barbershop.

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It's a ministry opportunity.

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And as you're led by the holy spirit, You're in a position to encourage strengthen, build up and all the things

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that the Bible says that prophetic things are about.

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Is that what your.

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That's what I'm saying.

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That's encouraging and being sensitive there, I think is important when we approach our work to have a sensitivity

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to the Lord's leading so that we don't miss an opportunity.

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We need to make good on those opportunities because we're has someone's life there in front of us, that person that God loves.

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So very encouraging to do that.

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Tell me about a time in your business.

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When faith was key, maybe you were facing some kind of obstacle.

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Maybe you're facing some kind of trouble or difficulty.

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And the Lord led you out of that.

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Does something come to mind?

Filipe Simoes:

Just came right after you asked that?

Filipe Simoes:

The one thing is like, uh, when we started, I didn't have much money, but I started by faith.

Filipe Simoes:

We know as believers, we want to give offerings and, and, uh, help other people.

Filipe Simoes:

And we do it by faith.

Scott McClelland:

Yeah.

Filipe Simoes:

So is everything by faith.

Filipe Simoes:

So in next month, like w we don't know if the customers are gonna come.

Filipe Simoes:

But they just come.

Filipe Simoes:

So I think that faith is taking a step forward.

Filipe Simoes:

Like our father Abraham.

Filipe Simoes:

He didn't know what support they land that his going.

Filipe Simoes:

If there's a, there was food, river, whatever for drinking and having food.

Filipe Simoes:

It's the same in business, you don't know what's going to happen.

Filipe Simoes:

It is really working our job, but people are liking your product, but the thing come,

Filipe Simoes:

you've got to believe that's that's all about.

Scott McClelland:

Yeah.

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And I think what you're saying there is believe.

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Is taking a step out.

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Yeah.

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That is, that's an evidence of faith is the step that burst one into the unknown.

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If you will.

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I like the way you're explaining that Abraham didn't know where he was going.

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He didn't have a sense of certainty about the land or the environment that he would be in.

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He only knew the one who was calling him.

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So.

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That's the part, I think we want to focus on a lot of times in business.

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I think we want to be so prepared that we will be in a position, not to be surprised by, uh, circumstances or conditions or

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situations, but it's impossible not to be surprised when you're starting, because you're just beginning and everything is.

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Are the people coming back.

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Are they going to like what I'm doing for them?

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All those kinds of things.

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I think we just have to step out and take courage leadership.

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Obviously this is a leadership podcast is about taking action.

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It's about stepping out.

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It's about, even though sometimes it's very uncomfortable.

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Sometimes we're going to have to be the first ones to move the first one to act.

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And the first one.

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Feel the resistance from the environment that we're acting on for the first time.

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Very important stuff, right there.

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Very important stuff.

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What are you hoping for in terms of these next years?

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How it could develop?

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I know you mentioned earlier, That you were training someone to also be involved in the

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business, help out also take care of the customers.

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Do you think that your business is an opportunity to prepare other people for similar things?

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Can you tell us a little bit about your approach?

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Not just to your customers from a business and kind of a ministry standpoint, but can you tell us about.

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Your workers are the ones you're working with and the ones you're preparing.

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What can you say about that Filipe?

Filipe Simoes:

Thanks for asking that.

Filipe Simoes:

That's a great question.

Filipe Simoes:

Actually.

Filipe Simoes:

I have a boy there he's 15 years old.

Filipe Simoes:

He was my customer about three years, maybe.

Filipe Simoes:

And, uh, he asked me to teach him and I said, just come.

Filipe Simoes:

So I started teaching hand and he starting getting better and better.

Filipe Simoes:

And then he told me, I want you to go to us.

Filipe Simoes:

My sister wants to go there.

Filipe Simoes:

I heard dandy leaves there and us, and they said, It's no problem.

Filipe Simoes:

I'm going to teach you anyways, because we've got a so in people's lives is not the mouth.

Filipe Simoes:

Once he's going to give him a back.

Filipe Simoes:

If he's going to stay there, it's my wasting time.

Filipe Simoes:

Some people think on about money if they are wasting time teaching somebody, but to where sowing

Filipe Simoes:

lives and when we are sewing, we're sharing life.

Filipe Simoes:

And this guy he's 15 years old, but, uh, tomorrow he's going to be in the conference that you're going to preach Scott.

Filipe Simoes:

So he wants to go there.

Filipe Simoes:

Why does he want to go there?

Filipe Simoes:

Because he has been here and in my testimony, the way that they take life easy and with the Lord, he knows everything.

Filipe Simoes:

He's 15 years old.

Filipe Simoes:

My dad talk about my wife about things, deep things, you know, it's, it's a challenge to leave, to pay your bills, to do things.

Filipe Simoes:

So I thought joking.

Filipe Simoes:

And one thing that's very interesting about whose working with you that our customers are going to be happy.

Filipe Simoes:

Should the measurement of how your employees happy.

Filipe Simoes:

If the person who is working with you is not happy, your customers are not going to be happy.

Filipe Simoes:

So it told this guy you're going to leave.

Filipe Simoes:

But then I'm going to teach you English first.

Filipe Simoes:

So I started teaching English to this guy, so he's not gonna forget me.

Filipe Simoes:

Like I didn't charge a painting actually.

Filipe Simoes:

He's making money because in the barber shop here in Dubuque, the centers, hair saloon, the per cent of their work.

Filipe Simoes:

So I believe that he's not gonna forget though, at this time that he can, the Bertrand it's truly.

Filipe Simoes:

Uh, so young, so it's a great place for ministry.

Filipe Simoes:

It's awesome.

Scott McClelland:

Absolutely.

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Was a great quote that you said there.

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I don't know where you got it or maybe the Lord gave it to you directly, but the idea of, to the degree

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that your people that are working with you are happy.

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That's the degree that they're able to make your customers happy and enjoy the experience.

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That's powerful and.

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Important.

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I think as business people, we recognize that we have relationships all around us, right?

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And these relationships are entrusted to us.

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It's relationships with our vendors, it's relationships with our customers and relationships with our coworkers.

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And our employees.

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That is something I think it's important to emphasize is that we have to have a sense of the importance and the

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value of all of those relationships and do everything we can to show each of them, respect and dignity, and to.

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Approach them in a way that is edifying and encouraging to those.

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Each one very well said, failure in closing here, as we're finishing up, is there something that you want to emphasize or

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mention that I didn't ask you or something that comes to mind?

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Uh, final thought that you want to share.

Filipe Simoes:

I know I'll have no thing.

Filipe Simoes:

I'm sorry for that.

Scott McClelland:

Don't worry, Matt.

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Don't worry.

Filipe Simoes:

We couldn't repeat the same thing,

Scott McClelland:

Len.

Scott McClelland:

No, it's okay.

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Someone can start the podcast over and get it again if they want to, without us having to, uh, do that, but thank you

Scott McClelland:

very much for being willing to join me here on the podcast.

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I know from time to time you had.

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Been listening and enjoying the content there with the interviews and other people.

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So thank you.

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It's very much a blessing to me to have you as a participant in the podcast and also someone who listens.

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So you're participating on both sides of the microphone.

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So that to me is a real blessing and I appreciate your friendship and I thank you for.

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Really being my host here in Brazil, along with , who was on the previous podcast.

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So thanks so much for your friendship, bro.

Scott McClelland:

If someone wanted to find out more about you about the barbershop or about who is this Felipe

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CMOs, how could they find that information?

Filipe Simoes:

Uh, about me?

Filipe Simoes:

They can find the, in the, my page, Instagram, uh, FilipeOSimoes

Filipe Simoes:

it's Philippe.

Filipe Simoes:

Oh, Simoes.

Filipe Simoes:

My job is O Mestre BarberShop.

Filipe Simoes:

They're going to spell O M E S T R E BarberShop, like in English.

Scott McClelland:

Okay.

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Okay, cool.

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I see you put that in English, which was pretty cool.

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The way you did those words.

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And we'll also put the links on the show notes and information.

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So folks can find you pretty easily.

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And I really appreciate you being here, bro.

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It's really a blessing to have you on and thank you for what you're doing with your customers.

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Thank you for what you're doing with the young man you're preparing.

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And it's a blessing.

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Your approach to business is very encouraging.

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Thank you for sharing that with us.

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Thanks for invitation.

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Yes, sir.

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And I am Scott McClellan and this is.

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