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98:: Doom scrolling is hijacking your brain's reward system. Here's how to get it back!
Episode 12527th April 2026 • Wellness Big Sis: The Pod • Dr. Kelsy Vick
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Your brain's dopamine system wasn't designed for infinite scroll, autoplay, and variable notifications. It was designed for earned rewards — and social media is engineered to exploit the gap between those two realities.

In this episode, Dr. Kelsy Vick closes out the April Spring Cleaning Series by breaking down what dopamine actually does in the brain, how social media platforms are specifically built to trigger tolerance and receptor downregulation, and why real life starts to feel flat when your reward system has been worn down.

Plus — the personal story of traveling with her phone on airplane mode and what it revealed about how automatic scrolling had actually become.

What you'll learn:

  • Why dopamine is your brain's engine for motivation, not just pleasure
  • How infinite scroll, pull-to-refresh and variable notifications exploit your reward system
  • What "dopamine scrolling" actually is — and why researchers named it a public health concern in 2025
  • The science behind why real life feels flat after chronic overstimulation
  • 5 evidence-based ways to restore your dopamine system starting this week

This is the spring cleaning your brain actually needs.

🎧 Miss the rest of the series? Start with our episodes on the lymphatic system and glymphatic system linked below.

Dopamine System Episodes:

The Female Brain, Dopamine, Motivation, & Our Menstrual Cycles!: https://youtu.be/vp5mqJNcXmQ?si=QCtMbHgz7sVSe_HW

Spring Cleaning (Dopamine Detox!): https://youtu.be/IKAUeugRBbc?si=nitogU1bmaSoCCWR

Build Your Own Dopamine Menu: https://youtu.be/NkBMiiMG_mw?si=LuvBj_sTUPa_hVx1

The Summer I Turned Pretty & Your Dopamine System: https://youtu.be/wnkYARrPL8o?si=S5jUC8WJLd-OSSC8

The Female Brain on Motivation & Discipline: https://youtu.be/ckrbPK9mmgs?si=oJOqno8srn-d5hay

Lauretani et al. (2024) — International Journal of Molecular Sciences — Dopamine as neuromodulator

Dresp-Langley (2023) — Biomedicines — Dopamine, anhedonia & anti-reward brain state

Sharpe & Spooner (2025) — Perspectives in Public Health — Dopamine-scrolling as public health concern

Internet addiction & dopamine tolerance — PMC — Receptor downregulation mechanism

Emotional Reinforcement & Social Media (2023) — PMC — Intermittent reinforcement & dopamine sensitization

Tyler et al. (2023) — Frontiers in Public Health — HIIT & dopamine D2 receptor upregulation

Bastioli et al. (2022) — Journal of Neuroscience — Voluntary exercise & striatal dopamine release

Desai et al. (2024) — Cureus — Dopamine fasting & mindfulness evidence

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Welcome to Wellness Fix the pod, a

bi maven media production where we

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believe you deserve real education

from real experts delivered

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in a way you can actually use.

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I'm Dr.

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Kelsey Vick, your board certified

orthopedic doctor of physical therapy, and

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this podcast was built for the girl who

is done feeling overwhelmed and frustrated

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by conflicting health noise and is ready

for something she can actually trust.

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Every week we have honest

science-backed conversations

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about your health, your hormones.

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Your brain, your body and

everything in between.

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No fluff, no fear mongering, just

the truth because understanding

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your body is the most powerful

thing you can do for yourself.

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A table full of experts built for

the curious girl who wants the truth.

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So welcome.

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Your seat is waiting for you.

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The way social media grips our

attention was not an accident.

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It was engineered to specifically

exploit the way your reward system works.

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The cruel irony is that the things

that we often reach for to help with

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this dysregulation are often the

things that are directly causing

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the poor functioning of the system.

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Each one is a cheap stimulus

that the brain just adapts to

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making real life feel dimmer.

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By comparison, the boredom

is the actual point.

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Over time, as the cheap stuff

decreases, the real stuff

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starts to feel real good again.

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And this is the actual spring clean,

not eliminating pleasure, but restoring

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your ability to find it in real life.

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When was the last time you sat somewhere

without reaching for your phone?

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I know anytime I am waiting for a friend

at a coffee shop or just trying to zone

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out my phone is the first thing I grab.

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And if you've ever tried to do some

sort of phone or social media fast,

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you know that sometimes when you pick

up your phone, you just out of habit,

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go to the apps that you frequent.

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It's scary how automatic this

has become and how much we rely

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on that external stimulation.

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so let's chat about spring

cleaning this entire experience

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And about one of the most important

aspects of our dopamine system

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That so many people forget.

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Welcome back to Wellness Fixes the Pod.

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I'm your host, Dr.

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Kelsey Vic, a board certified

orthopedic doctor, physical therapy,

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and a pelvic floor physical therapist.

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And this is the final week of

our April spring cleaning series.

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Not spring cleaning your house or

organizing, although that is also

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great, but spring cleaning your brain

and body health and wellness style.

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So the first few episodes we talked

about the lymphatic system, the

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cleansing system, the immunity system,

the waste clearance system of the body.

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We talked about the glymphatic system,

which is like the lymphatic system.

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But for the brain.

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We talked about alcohol, our liver, and

this week we are going to talk about

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the dopamine system, but in a new way

that we haven't chatted about it before.

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We've done quite a few episodes on the

dopamine system here on wellness fixes

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the pod, so I'll link all of those below,

but you can also just scroll back through.

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We have covered motivation, the

reward system, dopamine detoxes.

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We have covered the

dopamine system extensively,

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But what we haven't covered yet is

the dopamine system as sort of our

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brain's engine, not necessarily just

its reward and motivation system.

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Most people equate dopamine to pleasure,

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but researchers in the Journal of

Molecular Science have described it more.

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Accurately as the chemical responsible

for motor control, motivation, reward,

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and cognitive function like your brain's

engine, not just it's reward button.

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It is the neuromodulator in

your brain that makes things

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feel like they are worth doing,

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the wanting after certain things,

not just the having when you

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actually receive that reward.

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Dopamine is a neuromodulator,

meaning it doesn't just send signals.

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It's actually in charge

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of modifying your brain's

physical architecture over time.

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this is why what you expose your

dopamine system to repeatedly actually

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matters from a structural level.

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When your dopamine system is working well,

you feel great in the morning, small wins

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actually matter, and you can be present

without needing this constant input.

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When it's worn down,

everything feels flat.

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Nothing feels that motivating.

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You can't focus and living your day-to-day

life just doesn't feel like enough.

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And this is the part of the

dopamine system that we will

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talk about spring cleaning today.

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The part of the dopamine system that

is in charge of you reaching for

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your phone when you are just sitting

alone, because you need some of that

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input, some of that stimulation,

and I know we've all been there.

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As a quick little story, my

husband and I took a trip to Asia

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earlier in the month of March.

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It was the most wonderful trip, but

anytime we go abroad, I'm always the one

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that turns my phone on airplane mode.

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We don't wanna have to pay for data

for two of our phones are international

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data for two of our phones.

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So my husband's phone is the one

that we always leave on because

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he is the expert navigator.

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I am terrible with direction,

so it just makes sense that.

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His phone has the GPS and mine stays

on airplane mode, the entire trip.

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And at the start of the trip, I actually

hate it because I realize how often I'm

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grabbing for my phone When I'm riding

the subway or just waiting for my meal

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or waiting for my coffee, it acts as this

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stimulus for awareness for how often I

actually grab my phone because I'll grab

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it, And I'll realize that I can't just go

on social media or surf the web because

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I'm on airplane mode and not in wifi.

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So it's this really eye-opening experience

for a,, how often I actually reach

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for my phone when I am just sitting

alone and relatively bored, rather than

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just sitting in that boredom and B,

by putting my phone on airplane mode,

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I'm sort of forced into

cleansing the system.

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And let me tell you by like the second

or third day in, I feel amazing.

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I love having my phone on airplane mode.

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I love that it forces me to be more

present with where I'm at, especially

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on vacation when I'm in a super

cool place like Seoul, Tokyo, Kyoto,

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Kura, like exploring the world.

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I love having my phone on airplane

mode to help sort of cleanse

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this part of the dopamine system.

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Our brains were not designed for this

constant stimulation from our phones.

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your dopamine system evolved for a world

where rewards were spaced out and earned.

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If we think about ancient history.

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Things like finding food, making friends,

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or doing some sort of physical activity

required purposeful, hard work and effort.

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Which helped deliver a

meaningful dopamine response.

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We actually had to work for some

of those rewards that we wanted,

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and the reward was typically

proportional for the effort involved.

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we now live in a world where we get

rewarded for constant low effort actions.

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Every scroll, every like every refresh

of the page gives us more and more

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of that stimulation with

little to no effort.

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Research has shown that initially

when we open one of these social

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media apps, that initial stimulation.

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Causes a rise in dopamine, but this

constant overstimulation actually

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causes the opposite effect to happen.

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decreasing the number of

dopamine receptors and making

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the dopamine receptors.

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We do have less sensitive.

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, Researchers have actually called this

tolerance the same phenomena that is

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shown in substance addiction.

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Where neuroimaging and brain

imaging studies have actually found

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measurable, decreases

in brain dopamine levels

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in people with long-term compulsive use.

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Which is wild to think about because

I can vaguely remember when my

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parents got a cell phone and if

they are considering that generation

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long-term use, and it wasn't even

a social media cell phone, right?

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It was one of those bar cell phones with

one, two, three actual buttons on it.

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So I can only imagine the

compounding effects of what truly

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is long-term use when we talk about.

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Kids born into the social media

generation and the cell phone generation

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versus long-term use is studied

by adults who got their first cell

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phone at the age of like 25 or 30.

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A 2023 review found that social

media actually thrives on

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intermittent reinforcement.

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If you think of a slot machine, it is

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that unpredictable reward placement.

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Like randomly appearing likes

or ads or aesthetic content,

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the intermittent nature, the randomness,

the unpredictability is the actual point.

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Uncertain rewards create a stronger.

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Dopamine response then guaranteed ones.

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And we've talked about this before

when we dove into the science of how

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the actual dopamine system works.

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But these uncertain, intermittent

rewards placed throughout our

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social media is one of the reasons

we can't stop checking our phones.

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Think of some of these design

features on your social media apps.

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You have the Infinite Scrolls, so you're

constantly getting this low effort reward

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without any sort of breaking points.

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The pull to refresh, to actually

refresh your Instagram, your

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TikTok, your Pinterest, that

mimics pulling on a slot machine.

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The autoplay features on YouTube

or TikTok or Instagram removes

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that barrier to make that decision.

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Do you wanna continue?

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It says, nope.

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We're gonna just autoplay the next

one and keep your attention here.

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You get variable notifications, so this

random, unpredictable nature of these

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notifications keep you engaged and wanting

to come back and check more frequently.

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Researchers actually coined a

term for all of this in:

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they called it dopamine scrolling.

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Identifying it as a separate

public health concern

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from just general internet addiction.

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Dopamine scrolling is characterized by.

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Active content seeking, rapid

platform transferring, and of

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course, significant time investment.

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These researchers found

that dopamine scrolling.

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Releases small doses of dopamine,

and because the reward is variable

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and unpredictable, you come back

over and over and over again,

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building up a tolerance over time,

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meaning you only need more and more

stimulation to feel the same thing.

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The way social media grips our

attention was not an accident.

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It was engineered to specifically

exploit the way your reward system works.

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and it's not this dramatic incident.

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It's not this dramatic crash.

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It's a slow dimming, and you've

probably already felt it.

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Just like I had once I.

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Was forced into airplane mode on

my phone and had to take away some

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of that constant need for scrolling

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because I didn't wanna pay

for international data.

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You might resonate with my own

example, but you also might resonate

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with putting your phone down after a

scroll and feeling somehow worse than

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before you actually picked it up.

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The book that you used to love, that

you now cannot read for more than five

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minutes eating while watching tv, because

eating alone with your own thoughts feels

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like too much and you need some sort of

stimulation while you're eating a meal.

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Sunday afternoons.

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That should feel peaceful

and restful and zen.

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Now feel

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restless and empty.

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This low grade constant inability to be

somewhere without reaching for your phone.

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This inability to just sit with

yourself, sit in that boredom

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and sit with your thoughts.

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or having the experience that things

that used to make you happy no longer

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make you feel as excited anymore.

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Researchers call the end

stage of this anhedonia.

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Which literally means the

inability to feel pleasure.

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They describe it as the result of what

they call an anti reward brain state,

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where the dopamine circuitry

has been so dysregulated

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by some sort of compulsive behavior.

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That it begins producing the

opposite of what the reward

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system is supposed to deliver.

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They also found that things like chronic

stress and poor sleep actually feed in

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to this dopamine system dysregulation.

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So it's the cyclical pattern that

people can't seem to get out of.

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That's not only perpetuated

by this low effort,

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consistent reward, scrolling

pattern or behavior, but it's also

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amplified by things we all probably

experienced at one point or another.

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Sleep dysregulation and a chronic stress,

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and we might all feel this way, but

the cruel irony is that the things

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that we often reach for, to help

with this dysregulation are often the

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things that are directly causing the.

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Poor functioning of the system,

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the scroll, the snack, the show, they're

all feeding in to this calibration issue,

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not because these things are bad,

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but because each one is a cheap

stimulus that the brain just adapts to.

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Making real life feel

dimmer by comparison.

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We've all experienced this, especially

in this age of cell phone use and

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social media and all of the things

that we find inspiration from.

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But if we rely on that too, too much, if

we do it compulsively, if we continue to.

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Have this lack of awareness

surrounding this low effort, multiple

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consistent reward sort of pattern.

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It's going to wear down the system,

but worn down systems can be restored,

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which is why we're talking about

spring cleaning the system today.

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And it's something I need

to be reminded about.

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And I was only just now recently.

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kicked out of this pattern

and forced outta this pattern

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because of that vacation.

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But if you guys also struggle

with this awareness, maybe when

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you go on vacation, it's okay to

put your phone on airplane mode.

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And I know so many people are better about

this than I am, but I was so grateful that

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we were traveling internationally and I

was pretty much forced to put my phone on

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airplane mode because it ended up being

one of the best ways to feel so much

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presence and so much gratitude about the

experience I was experiencing right then.

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So to spring clean this system,

it's not necessarily what you can

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add, but it's what we can subtract.

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The way we help restore this

system's proper functioning

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is by reducing those cheap hits.

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So the real ones, the ones we

want to enjoy, the ones we work

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hard for, can actually land again.

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You are clearing out some of that

clutter so that those major moments

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can feel that much more rewarding.

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So here are some tools for

your toolbox if you are also

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looking to clean up the system.

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Number one, create daily

low stimulation windows.

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The discomfort we feel when we sit without

our phones, whether we are waiting for our

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friend at happy hour or even just sitting

after a meal is our brain recalibrating.

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So try one meal a day without your phone.

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One walk without headphones

driving, without a podcast

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or your favorite album on.

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That one's hard for me.

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Doing dishes without a show on or some

sort of stimulation in the background.

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A 2024 literature review found

that people who engage in these

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intentional low stimulation periods

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reported reduced impulsive behaviors,

increased ability to focus on tasks

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for longer periods, and feeling less

overwhelmed and more in control.

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they also note that mindfulness

activities like meditation

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have been shown to have positive effects

on this dopamine system regulation.

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However extreme versions of these

low stimulation periods, so think

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complete isolation or severe

restriction can actually backfire,

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moderate, slow, and steady wins.

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The race is truly the take

home message when it comes to

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daily low stimulation periods.

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The boredom is the actual point.

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Sitting with it is what recalibrates

the system, and it takes practice,

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but it is one of the tools for the

toolbox to spring clean this cyclical

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pattern that we might find ourselves in.

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You can think of it like physical

therapy for your reward system.

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The second tool is to add friction

between you and your phone.

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And Erin, who we chatted with back in

February, she is the habit coach and ex.

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On behavior change, especially when we are

talking about forming or breaking habits

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to help us eventually reach our goals.

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She talked about how she approaches

social media with multiple barriers.

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So anytime she feels like going on

social media, she has to redownload

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the app from the app store, re-log in

before she actually engages in that

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behavior, which is providing two barriers.

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Provides even more friction

between her and that activity.

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So the second tool for

your toolbox is to actually

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purposefully put in that friction.

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Things like charging your phone outside

your bedroom, making yourself actually

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search for the apps on your phone.

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Or doing what Aaron does and just creating

multiple barriers before you partake in an

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activity that might be feeding into this

dysregulation of your dopamine system.

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the 2025 perspectives

of public health study.

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I specifically found that ethical

nudging interventions or small design

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changes that make social media less

accessible, like having to completely

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download the app again, we're effective at

minimizing time spent on these platforms.

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They also found that newsfeed

diets are actually auditing

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what shows up in your feed

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showed promise in reducing

these doom scrolling behaviors.

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And all of these things work because

they bring possibly an unconscious

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behavior into your consciousness

by letting your brain catch up to

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something that might have become a

habit or just a compulsive behavior

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that you revert to whenever you are

bored or need some sort of stimulation.

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So with this tool, you're not

fighting your dopamine system, you

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are redesigning your environment so it

doesn't get hijacked in the first place.

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The third tool is probably my

favorite tool, but it is to

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move your body into exercise.

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Social media might wear your doping system

down, but exercise helps to rebuild it.

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And if you think about it, it makes sense.

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Exercise is hard work.

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It takes a lot of physical effort

to receive the reward of a completed

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workout or reaching a certain body

composition or body recomposition

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goal that you have, or reaching some

sort of longevity goal that you have.

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So it makes sense that exercise

is one of the best recalibration

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tools for your dopamine system.

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a 2022 study published in the Journal of

Neuroscience, found that exercise actually

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increased straddle dopamine release, and

that effect persisted for up to seven days

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after your last exercise training session

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and all movement counts,

walking, dance, weights, any

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sort of form of exercise counts.

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The results of exercise

is an earned reward.

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Exercise is that hard work and effort that

you have to put in to earn that reward.

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Your body and brain knows the difference

between a cheap hit and a real one.

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Exercise is one of the ways to

get a positive dopamine response

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that doesn't come at the cost

of receptor downregulation.

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Tool number four, one that we talked

about this spring cleaning series

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pretty extensively, but sleep is key.

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You've gotta protect your sleep.

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It's a non-negotiable.

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You can't possibly spring clean

a system that you are actually

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destroying every night with poor sleep.

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Our dopamine circuitry is

consolidated, reorganized, integrated

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through brain structures that

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control our circadian rhythms.

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So your dopamine system's

ability to function is directly

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related to your sleep quality.

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Disrupted sleep doesn't

just make you tired.

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It actually interferes with

Your brain's ability to maintain

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a healthy dopamine system.

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So late night phone use is

a compounding issue here.

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Not only does it actually affect the

quality of your sleep, your ability to

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get into all of those different sleep

phases and clean your brain like we

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talked about in our glymphatic system,

but it also feeds into that compulsive

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behavior with that doom scrolling.

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Low effort, multiple reward behavior

that we're trying to recalibrate.

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So of course, sleep ties into all

aspects of our health and wellness.

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Not only our brain cleaning, but

also our dopamine system regulation.

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The fifth tool is a little more

purposeful and more intentional, but

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it is to deliberately and purposefully

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invest in higher effort rewards.

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The goal is not to feel nothing

but to train our brains, to

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feel things from real life.

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To pull back from cheap stimulation

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and replace it with things that require

high effort and deliver a real reward.

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Learning something new, building

something, finishing something.

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Having a real conversation,

getting outside, creating anything.

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The reward system research consistently

distinguishes between this low

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effort, high frequency reward, and

high effort, high value rewards.

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The dopamine response to

these two types of rewards is

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neurobiologically different I

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and the high effort, high value reward.

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Kind does not produce the same receptor

downregulation that the low effort,

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high frequency rewards lead to.

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Over time, as the cheap stuff

decreases, the real stuff

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starts to feel real good again.

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And this is the actual spring clean, . Not

eliminating pleasure , but restoring

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your ability to find it in real life.

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You don't have to overhaul your

life or completely get rid of social

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media or any of those low effort.

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High frequency rewards, but I think I need

to be better about occasionally checking

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in on my use and frequency of those things

compared to what are the things that I'm

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actually creating, building, finishing

those high effort, high value rewards

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that I want to recalibrate my brain with.

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Or maybe it means I just need to

schedule intermittent multiple times

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a year, international vacation, so I'm

forced to put my phone on airplane mode.

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I'm kind of kidding.

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But that really was one of the.

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More eye-opening experiences

that I had while on vacation

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was how much more comfortable.

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I was just sitting with myself on the

subway, looking around, enjoying the

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scenery, enjoying this experience that

I was getting on vacation because I

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had a major barrier and major friction

between me and the use of my phone.

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It was incredible.

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So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.

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You've learned a little bit of a

different part of the dopamine system.

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Again, I'll leave all of the links to the

dopamine system episodes that we've done

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in the past below for you guys to check

out if you are interested in learning

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more about how it actually works and

the brain mechanisms involved in our

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dopamine system, because it is super

duper complex and we really only touch on.

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One side of the equation the other

side is that movement quality side of

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it that we haven't even touched yet.

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But I learn so much anytime I research and

pull studies about the dopamine system.

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And this is one take that I feel

like we haven't talked about on

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the podcast before, but it was

relatively recently in my mind after

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my vacation, and I figured it was

perfect for the spring cleaning series.

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So I hope you enjoyed this episode and

I'll see you guys again on the next

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episode of Wellness Fixes the Pod.

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And if you have enjoyed this series,

I would love for you to share it with

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Any of your other health and wellness

friends, and I would appreciate

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any sort of like, comment, review,

subscribe on any of the platforms

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that you're listening or watching on.

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I very much appreciate each and every

one of you guys who tune in every week.

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Any new listeners that are.

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Entering our little wellness business

community for the first time.

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I'm grateful for you.

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Thank you.

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I love doing this.

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I love learning with you guys,

and I hope you guys gain something

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from these episodes that you

can apply to your own life.

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So thank you again for just your support.

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Even if it is something as small as just

listening to this episode on your morning

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commute or during your Smart Girl walk.

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I really appreciate it, and I

feel very grateful to, be a part

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of your routine in that way.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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See you next week.

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