Women of Rock Concert Special - hosts Kimberly Gunn and Tammy Holzer discuss Tammy's experience attending the Depeche Mode show in San Jose on March 25, 2023; concert etiquette, and post-concert and post-tour depression.
Depeche Mode - Walking In My Shoes ft. BBC Concert Orchestra (Radio 2 Piano Room)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lok52VfIE_c
Depeche Mode - Ghosts Again ft. BBC Concert Orchestra (Radio 2 Piano Room)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD9e_nZ4y_c
Post-Concert Depression (Article)
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/post-concert-depression/
#depechemode #mementomori
Greetings, and welcome to this latest edition of The Women of Rock.
Kimberly:I'm one of your hosts, Kimberly.
Kimberly:Hi, I'm Tammy.
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Kimberly:Now I'm gonna turn it over to my girl, Tammy, who has some on the ground
Kimberly:reporting from a huge world tour.
Kimberly:Tammy, what's going on?
Tammy:Okay, so today's a special edition.
Tammy:We're gonna devote today's episode to Depeche Mode, and I recently saw Depeche
Tammy:Mode, their second concert in San Jose for this new tour, the Momentum MO tour.
Tammy:And just wanted to give my overall, experience and impressions and and
Tammy:recap of how fabulous it was really.
Kimberly:Could we are so excited to hear, because I've been seeing in the news.
Kimberly:I know a bunch.
Kimberly:Everyone's been checking it out.
Kimberly:I've seen, really positive reviews.
Kimberly:So, you know, before we launch into the show, can you just give us a wrap up of
Kimberly:how you got that ticket, because I know it was sort of like, you know, Charlie
Kimberly:from Willy Wonka, how you got that golden ticket and got that made it in there.
Kimberly:So how'd you get that
Tammy:ticket?
Tammy:Um, well first of all, let me say, you can probably tell by my voice that I
Tammy:am sick and unfortunately, I believe I did get sick from going to the event.
Tammy:It was an indoor, concert.
Tammy:It's not covid, but it's some other, or combination of other, viruses that pretty
Tammy:much took me down for like nine days.
Tammy:there's that, still recover.
Tammy:My ear is completely, plugged and like pretty much swollen this half of
Tammy:my face, but still totally worth it.
Tammy:I did not regret going.
Tammy:It was a, amazing experience.
Tammy:So anyway, that being said, the, I got the ticket through Ticketmaster.
Tammy:It.
Tammy:About six months ago, I think.
Tammy:I think, well, last October, so six months ago, and it was the sign
Tammy:up for the verified fan through Ticketmaster, and I believe I got a link.
Tammy:to, I don't remember for that particular one, you didn't have to
Tammy:sign up for a particular show, you just had to have a link and all the
Tammy:shows went on sale at the same time.
Tammy:But there were only like, maybe six shows in North America and Depeche
Tammy:Mode has not toured in five years.
Tammy:I think typically they tour about every four years is their cycle.
Tammy:And they recently lost, Fletcher, Andrew Fletcher from the band.
Tammy:So, This might be the last time they tour a Actually, we say that every time,
Tammy:this might be the last time they tour.
Tammy:This isn't, but you never know it could be.
Tammy:And the fact that they were only doing a handful of shows in North America and then
Tammy:going overseas, it was like, whoa, there's gonna be a major scramble for tickets.
Tammy:So really, I got the code.
Tammy:I was on my phone, my laptop.
Tammy:Like, you know, at the, at the time it was released and I was trying for LA
Tammy:and, San Jose and LA was like, forget it.
Tammy:it was just in line forever and the first thing that I could get on was San Jose.
Tammy:So I just grabbed it and I grabbed a ticket.
Tammy:My, the ticket itself ended up being, I was in the 100 level.
Tammy:I had decent seats.
Tammy:I chose seats that were facing the band, not right next to the band because
Tammy:I had ha I had been to a concert, a show for Johnny Mar in another city,
Tammy:and it was an arena type setting.
Tammy:And I was, I chose a seat, like closer to the band, but I was
Tammy:sitting sideways and it sucked because it was not a great ar arena.
Tammy:And everyone was like smushed together and no one was standing.
Tammy:So I'm like squished in between people and look and having to look over to the right.
Tammy:I'm like, I'm not doing that again.
Tammy:I'm gonna, I'm goodness.
Tammy:and that being said, the SAP center, I don't know if it's called
Tammy:SAP or S SAP Center or whatever in San Jose is a great venue.
Tammy:Oh, awesome.
Tammy:There is amazing.
Tammy:And I was kicking myself.
Tammy:Damnit, I should've got a seat, but I didn't know I never been there.
Tammy:Could've got a seat closer.
Tammy:it would've been, I would've been, the, the the views were great.
Tammy:I didn't feel that far away, but I just realized like,
Tammy:the, now this is a good arena.
Tammy:there's not a bad seat here, Anyway, so when I got the tickets, it was just like,
Tammy:I'm going, and I think they were out the door with ticket master fees and all that.
Tammy:I think around $200.
Tammy:Wow.
Tammy:Okay.
Tammy:Wanted to get.
Tammy:I really ideally wanna be on the floor.
Tammy:as we've talked about on this channel many times, floor seats were going for $3,000.
Tammy:By the way, who is on the floor?
Tammy:Did those people pay $3,000?
Tammy:Did they wait?
Tammy:Like it's sold out really fast?
Tammy:I don't know.
Tammy:it'd be interesting to see to know.
Tammy:People paid.
Kimberly:Not, but not too bad.
Kimberly:it wasn't a mortgage payment.
Tammy:It wasn't a mortgage payment.
Tammy:No.
Tammy:Or a trip to Europe.
Tammy:And that was presale, A trip to that was presale and I, and then I went on the
Tammy:day that they went on sale, and it was like a hundred dollars more for my seat.
Tammy:Oh, wow.
Tammy:Okay.
Tammy:Like the area instantly.
Tammy:and then it sold out really
Kimberly:quick.
Kimberly:Yeah, so you got, once you got one and got one, because we've been talking
Kimberly:about this for a couple months.
Tammy:I, yeah, I've been looking forward to this for months and, so
Tammy:Sacramento was their first show on March 23rd, and then the one I went to
Tammy:was their second show on March 25th.
Tammy:And it was just electric.
Tammy:it.
Tammy:Everyone there, 19,000 people, everyone there was so happy and so excited.
Tammy:I've never seen a Depeche mode like, okay, first of all, let me set the
Tammy:stage for a Depeche Mode concert.
Tammy:If you've never been to a Depeche Mode concert, typically, Depeche
Tammy:Mode fans are a bit obsessive with the band myself for sure.
Tammy:and so it just, they have.
Tammy:And heavy themes around life and death.
Tammy:Not really life, more like death, um, you know, love, sex and religion.
Tammy:And so this, so typically when I go to a Depeche Mode concert, it's
Tammy:uplifting for sure, but it's, I always have an emotional hangover afterward
Tammy:cuz it's so just deep and connecting.
Tammy:So this was a little different because.
Tammy:People didn't go in expecting that deep brooding experience.
Tammy:I guess Was the vibe.
Tammy:It was more like, we are so fucking happy to be here.
Tammy:Oh, everybody, people were so nice.
Tammy:I, okay.
Tammy:And so when I got there, again, 19,000 people.
Tammy:Like me, similar in age, all wearing black, all dressed for
Tammy:the show, all just psyched.
Tammy:You.
Tammy:Okay, you gotta show your t-shirt, Jenna.
Tammy:Just Yes.
Tammy:this is what I was getting to, so I should, so here my sweatshirt
Tammy:of the band and, and then it has the tour dates on the back.
Tammy:But I, I noticed this really long line.
Tammy:Up the stairs and around, and I'm like, what is that?
Tammy:Is that like for the bar?
Tammy:Excuse me?
Tammy:What is she staying in line for?
Tammy:Are you
Kimberly:trying to get a drink?
Tammy:It was the merch line.
Tammy:Oh, really?
Tammy:And it was two lines going up the stairs around.
Tammy:So I'm like, Damn let me get a beer and then stand in the merch wine.
Tammy:Well, that's exactly what I did got, like the, they sold
Tammy:the big can of beer, whatever.
Tammy:I'm like, okay, this'll last for a while.
Tammy:This will last for this line.
Tammy:I was in that line for an hour and I missed completely.
Tammy:Oh.
Tammy:I'm like, I'm committed now.
Tammy:I'm in line.
Tammy:I'm not gonna get outta line.
Tammy:And I can't wear these online.
Tammy:online.
Tammy:It's at the concert only.
Tammy:So I'm like, So by the time I got to the front of the line and drank that big beer,
Tammy:I was like, okay, I'll take that and that.
Tammy:So I spent way more than I anticipated, and the prices were,
Tammy:I gotta say outrageous, like holy cow, nothing was less than $50.
Tammy:This sweatshirt was a hundred dollars.
Tammy:Wow.
Tammy:And I bought a long sleeve shirt on top of it that was like, $75.
Tammy:that was a little bit of a hangover the next day too, of damn, how
Tammy:much did I just spend on merch?
Tammy:That wasn't a drop on this show, but, but I got caught up in the moment and
Tammy:there was just this feeling of I don't know when we're gonna see him again.
Tammy:and, Everybody in line was super nice, like just chit chatting, like
Tammy:the excitement was just palpable.
Tammy:Like in the lobby, in the venue, and even the first couple of songs, the whole
Tammy:thing, people were just, Going crazy.
Tammy:I've never seen a Depeche Mode concert.
Tammy:Like I think the band were blown away too.
Tammy:They were just holy cow.
Tammy:And I think there was so much compassion for, and sadness in a way,
Tammy:or celebration of the last two members.
Tammy:And that flex was no longer on the stage and the way the band
Tammy:was configured was different.
Tammy:they've got two band members that have been longtime
Tammy:touring members with them too.
Tammy:drummer and, bass player.
Tammy:but it was just like, you know, and then there were two.
Tammy:it was just weird.
Kimberly:yeah.
Kimberly:And if you could remind our listeners, fle, he passed away, was it last year?
Tammy:He pa he passed away, don't remember, I could Google the exact
Tammy:date, but it was last year and it was during the process of them making
Tammy:their new album called Memento Mok.
Tammy:And Memento Mok literally means, remember, you must die.
Tammy:And so it's just a, again, full on with the Depeche Mode theme, but the fact
Tammy:that they started writing it before this happened, Was a, it was a little weird.
Tammy:And also that it's like where the they are as humans, each album that they've done.
Tammy:And every time I've seen them on tour, which, has been quite a number
Tammy:of times since 2005 or 2006 was the first time I've saw 'em, I never
Tammy:saw 'em in the eighties or anything.
Tammy:I've only seen them, in.
Tammy:In this, century, but, it's always been, there's a dynamic between Dave
Tammy:Gahan and Martin Gore and that's played out within the band over the years.
Tammy:And, I've watched them mature and mature in age.
Tammy:so it just seems like Memento Mori is a reflection of where they are now,
Tammy:as humans just facing, end of life.
Tammy:not end of life right now, but the last chapters of life and just
Tammy:remembering that we're all gonna die.
Tammy:So em embracing life.
Tammy:So it sounds dark, but it's really hopeful.
Kimberly:And that's not easy to, it's not easy to pull that
Kimberly:off, to, to navigate that.
Tammy:Well, the band, the themes of the band for anybody who doesn't.
Tammy:like I said, the themes of the band are, deaf, religion, and sex.
Tammy:All those are the themes they explore.
Tammy:But it's also, but again, it's also uplifting
Kimberly:Yeah, yeah.
Kimberly:Would you say that this, is it Memento Mok?
Kimberly:Mm-hmm.
Kimberly:Would you say that that's like a departure from their traditional
Kimberly:sound, or is it in line?
Kimberly:Mm-hmm.
Kimberly:Okay.
Tammy:Um, and here's one thing I wanna say, and, wanna talk a little bit about
Tammy:the concert itself and the songs and stuff, but I did notice people around.
Tammy:So there's the eighties Depeche mode.
Tammy:Like people are people and everything counts and, just can't get enough.
Tammy:So if you're an eighties fan of Depeche Mode and you're coming to
Tammy:the concert to hear, I just can't get enough, you're gonna be really
Tammy:disappointed because it's not.
Tammy:They've grown past that.
Tammy:It's been 40,
Kimberly:40 I was in high school, isn't it that stuff, And
Tammy:they, and they've continued, they haven't stopped as a band.
Tammy:They have continued recording and touring and evolving all this time.
Tammy:It never stopped.
Tammy:So I did see a few people in front of me that I think we're thinking,
Tammy:I'm gonna go see Depeche Mode.
Tammy:Remember them from the eighties, if that's what you're thinking.
Tammy:you might be disappointed because they have really grown and changed since then.
Tammy:That being said, I love their music.
Tammy:I love everything that they've done after the eighties.
Tammy:I like the, I lo there's a few things from the eighties that I,
Tammy:eighties and nineties that I love, personal Jesus, there are more, but
Tammy:now they closed with those songs.
Tammy:Typically they closed with, usually goodnight or usually, never let me down.
Tammy:But this time they closed with personal Jesus, which was really interesting.
Tammy:And they did do some rearranging of some of the songs too.
Tammy:So it's a walk through their music.
Tammy:Pretty, I would say from, they picked a few songs, I think from
Tammy:each era, but there's not a lot from the eighties and there's some songs
Tammy:that I love that they didn't play.
Tammy:And I think, and I've seen some online posts, like people are I don't know
Tammy:about the set list, but doesn't matter.
Tammy:We love Depeche Mode, but again, we're going, if you're going.
Tammy:I would recommend being a hardcore Depeche Mode fan.
Tammy:If you are, it's fricking amazing.
Tammy:If you're going there to expect eighties Depeche mode,
Tammy:you're gonna be disappointed.
Kimberly:which is so interesting though, because I was able to, I
Kimberly:was looking at the set list and I watched the, is it Ghost Stories?
Kimberly:Is that the name of the song Ghost Again, ghost.
Kimberly:Absolutely.
Kimberly:It's a really interesting song and really interesting video.
Kimberly:very, evocative maybe is the word.
Kimberly:And Oh yeah.
Kimberly:For me, because I'm not, I really like De Pema.
Kimberly:I'm not a fan like you have been, but since I've known you,
Kimberly:we've been talking about it.
Kimberly:I've, I'm like really into their music and exploring more about it.
Kimberly:And I think this tour and this latest, release, I think it really shows
Kimberly:their depth and their, variety and their talent, to be honest with you.
Kimberly:Yes.
Tammy:Thank you.
Tammy:that's depth.
Tammy:If there's one word to describe the band, it's depth and talent.
Tammy:Amazing talent.
Tammy:Amazing
Kimberly:talent.
Kimberly:I really didn't know.
Kimberly:I'm, my experiences with them were from, the eighties people
Kimberly:are people, that whole set
Tammy:song and there, their music is great, but there's just been
Tammy:a whole evolution since then.
Tammy:And it's interesting, one of.
Tammy:They, they opened with a few songs.
Tammy:I'm just looking at the set list.
Tammy:they opened it with a few songs from the new album and the third song
Tammy:they played is Walking in My Shoes.
Tammy:That's from the nineties, and that's one of those songs that I've always loved, but
Tammy:for some reason it has evolved over time and I like it even more now than I did.
Tammy:When it first came out, and I just read something about that, that the band said
Tammy:the same thing, like something about that song has continued to evolve and
Tammy:that's why they put it on the set list.
Tammy:And they just did a recording with the bbc, through the BBC network.
Tammy:And they recorded that song and ghost again, with an orchestra.
Tammy:I'm not sure if they did a full concert with the orchestra, if it was just
Tammy:those tho they posted on YouTube, those two songs, and they're amazing.
Tammy:Oh, wow.
Tammy:So we'll link those, down below, so you can take a look at those.
Tammy:But, it's great.
Tammy:They, they did every, everything Counts.
Tammy:that's a, popular eighties song.
Tammy:Some of the newer songs that I really.
Tammy:Uh, they performed, but it seemed that they did a different
Tammy:arrangement, which was interesting.
Tammy:So, um, precious is a song from, I believe it's playing the Angel, from 2006 2007.
Tammy:which was good.
Tammy:Little bit different, arrangement.
Tammy:a couple songs that are more recent to.
Tammy:Oh, a paint that I'm used to.
Tammy:I think that was also from Playing the Angel, which I really great.
Tammy:Great song.
Tammy:wrong.
Tammy:That's one of, I think that's from, is that from Delta?
Tammy:Delta Spirit.
Tammy:Great song.
Tammy:But again, different arrangement.
Tammy:John, the Revelator great song, little bit different arrangement.
Tammy:So you gotta really like, know a lot of these records from new
Tammy:to appreciate these songs and.
Tammy:So I have to say like overall it was, I was just so happy to see him on stage
Tammy:and like I knew every single song.
Tammy:I didn't know all of the new songs, but I knew every single song and,
Tammy:okay, so the thing about standing up at concerts, this is such a pet peeve.
Tammy:I think I've talked about this a few times, but.
Tammy:There have been times where I've been in front row of a concert,
Tammy:but it was like I, was, heart.
Tammy:And sticks.
Tammy:And it was at the, it was like a fairground tour
Tammy:concert, during the summer.
Tammy:And the demographic was a little bit older age, And I was in the
Tammy:second row and people behind me were telling me to sit down.
Tammy:I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
Tammy:Never went to a fairgrounds show again because of that reason.
Tammy:But I have that problem here again, wow.
Tammy:Really?
Tammy:So I was in the 100 level.
Tammy:Everyone below me was standing up except for the people directly, in front of
Tammy:me, which I suspect were, I like the eighties Depeche mode cuz they sat
Tammy:like this through the whole thing.
Tammy:And then when they heard, when
Kimberly:they gonna play those songs, I like, right?
Tammy:And then when they heard just can't get enough at the end, then
Tammy:they stood up and they were happy.
Tammy:But it took until the very end, the encore for them to stand up.
Tammy:And I'm like, ah, 80 people don't bother.
Tammy:Everybody to the left of me, I could see were standing up for
Tammy:the most part, in the same level.
Tammy:So that, so somebody behind me tapped me on the shoulder and
Tammy:said, do you mind sitting down?
Tammy:And I was just, oh, wow.
Tammy:And I was like, and.
Tammy:I, and I was like, you know what, n I can't guarantee that I'm
Tammy:gonna sit down through the show.
Tammy:Sorry.
Tammy:I love that.
Tammy:I love that.
Tammy:You knows really nice about it.
Tammy:which the people at Sticks and Heart were like, sit down,
Tammy:yelling at you, yelling at me.
Tammy:throwing rotten food nice about it, but I'm just like, I'm sorry, I, I'll
Tammy:sit down here and, but I'm not gonna.
Tammy:and I said it very nicely, smile.
Tammy:Why are you going to a concert if you are expecting people to sit down?
Tammy:I just don't understand it.
Tammy:I don't, especially in that style was the asshole standing up.
Tammy:like whatever.
Kimberly:And we have talked about this in one of our previous episodes.
Kimberly:If you wanna go check that out from season one, because my whole point
Kimberly:is, How are you listening to this this music and not moving anything?
Kimberly:Like I don't get it.
Tammy:No.
Tammy:And why are you there?
Tammy:Why are you here?
Tammy:Stay home.
Tammy:Probably got the damn virus from you.
Tammy:the non-moving
Kimberly:person.
Tammy:It ruins it for the
Kimberly:rest of us.
Kimberly:And having said that,
Tammy:maybe song.
Tammy:Come on,
Kimberly:Ryan.
Kimberly:I was gonna say, having said that, maybe concert etiquette has really changed
Kimberly:up where people just, feel shy or embarrassed about doing that or something.
Kimberly:I don't know.
Tammy:That's one thing.
Tammy:Don't ask me to sit down.
Tammy:Right.
Kimberly:I'm standing.
Tammy:Do what you want.
Tammy:Don't ask me to change my behavior when you can see how into the concert
Tammy:and everyone around me is standing up.
Tammy:Fuck you.
Tammy:I'm sorry, but you can stand
Kimberly:up
Tammy:too.
Tammy:You can stand up too.
Tammy:Like it's okay.
Tammy:It's okay.
Tammy:You're not into it.
Tammy:That's your problem.
Tammy:That's not my problem.
Tammy:If you came to see eighties Depeche mode, A friend drug.
Tammy:You here, I'm, that's not my problem.
Tammy:Don't influence my behavior when I That's so interesting.
Kimberly:Yeah.
Kimberly:it's not the theater folks, right?
Kimberly:We don't stand up in theater like that.
Kimberly:But at a rock concert, especially with that type of music, I you
Kimberly:see the performers dancing.
Kimberly:I saw clips, and he was moving.
Tammy:Yeah, I was not alone.
Tammy:I, you're not alone.
Tammy:You gotta be kidding me.
Tammy:So I did see, somebody had posted a few photos and videos and stuff from, I think
Tammy:they were in the 200 level and they made a comment, everyone around me sucked.
Tammy:like they were, yeah.
Tammy:They weren't appreciating it or standing up or whatever.
Tammy:And I'm just like, oh god, it's the worst.
Tammy:And you can't predict that.
Tammy:especially when you're scrambling to get tickets for something
Tammy:like this, I don't know.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:What is concert etiquette?
Kimberly:What is con?
Kimberly:And if and if you're watching, please put it into the comments section.
Kimberly:I thought it was okay to move and, show your appreciation.
Kimberly:And that's what we call feedback, and the performers actually like that.
Kimberly:Oh my
Tammy:God.
Tammy:Unbelievable.
Tammy:so yeah, so I guess my final impressions of the show, are really
Tammy:that, and they sa they sounded amazing.
Tammy:Dave Gahan had more energy than I've seen in years.
Tammy:I know he was struggling.
Tammy:Through the last concert, he, last couple, tours, he had some illnesses
Tammy:and it looked, he just looked really tired and drained and I heard he, he
Tammy:had said in some interviews, doesn't know if he is, can do this again.
Tammy:He is getting older and that kind of thing.
Tammy:He's, I think he's 60 now and, he looked fantastic.
Tammy:He was, Fire.
Tammy:He was dancing around, he was into it.
Tammy:He was excited.
Tammy:it was amazing.
Tammy:So he was better than ever.
Tammy:Sounded amazing.
Tammy:just awesome.
Tammy:and obviously the band, and Martin Gore, Martin Gore is such a gigantic
Tammy:talent of course, he, Martin Gore got out and sang, he always sings
Tammy:a couple of songs during each.
Tammy:Martin sounded better than I've ever heard him.
Tammy:Ever.
Tammy:Like his voice, I'm like, whoa.
Tammy:Amazing.
Tammy:What was going on?
Tammy:not that it wasn't good before, but there was just something extra.
Tammy:They did a nice tribute to Fletch, not.
Tammy:Really, they didn't announce it or anything.
Tammy:they played Fletcher's, say, favorite song called, A World, world
Tammy:In My Eyes, from Violator, which is one of my favorite songs too.
Tammy:of their, I have a lot of favorite songs.
Tammy:That's a great song too.
Tammy:And they flashed photos of him in the background.
Tammy:They just did this like kind of morphine, images of him younger and.
Tammy:It was, just beautiful and moving and everybody, it's without saying
Tammy:it, everybody was there to I think push the band on, keep going.
Tammy:we're so happy you're here.
Tammy:Just keep going.
Tammy:I, that's just what it felt like.
Tammy:It just felt so celebratory.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:Unbelievable.
Tammy:I'm okay.
Tammy:And they have since added shows at the end of the year, they have added another
Tammy:leg, in December for US and North America.
Tammy:I haven't gotten tickets yet, but I'm, I've a little sick rec's rec.
Tammy:I'm totally gonna get to the, I can't wait.
Tammy:I can't wait to see him.
Kimberly:Yeah, that's cool.
Kimberly:Cause I've been, reading up on it and reading reviews and I know that this
Kimberly:was the first leg of their tour and then the second leg, they're off to Europe,
Kimberly:like maybe yes, this week or something.
Kimberly:And then they come back and, I read a really great review from, A journalist, a
Kimberly:reviewer out of la they were played down there and they said the show was amazing.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:They went to LA after San Jose.
Tammy:Mm-hmm.
Kimberly:Really, really, really positive reviews of the
Kimberly:concert and their performance.
Kimberly:And, Tammy was hitting me up.
Kimberly:She's I'm here.
Kimberly:I'm like, how's it go?
Kimberly:She's they sound great.
Kimberly:And I was like, okay, now enjoy the show.
Kimberly:So, and wanted you to enjoy the show without me texting every five minutes.
Tammy:I filmed a few things.
Tammy:Amazing.
Tammy:But I just, and did, and snapped a few photos and stuff, but I really just wanted
Tammy:to enjoy the concert as much as I could.
Tammy:cuz it was so fabulous.
Tammy:So I heard in Amazing, it was, there is a part where Martin Gore and Dave
Tammy:Gahan come down and sing together.
Tammy:I think even just a very like acoustic version of, I think it was soul with me.
Tammy:Um, but I heard in.
Tammy:I think it was La Dave Gohan said, everybody put down your damn phones and
Tammy:watched the show to when they did that.
Tammy:Cause it's such a nice moment between the two of them singing to each other,
Tammy:which doesn't happen very often.
Tammy:And then they hug at the end, which is for all of us who know Depeche Mode.
Tammy:Dave and Martin have had this kind of contentious relationship for many years.
Tammy:And to see them coming together now, Fletch is no longer there
Tammy:to mediate or bridge that they have to work with each other now.
Tammy:And to see them embracing each other and really in sync with each other was
Tammy:just made everybody, it made me happy.
Tammy:It made everybody so happy.
Tammy:Yeah.
Kimberly:I thought that was such a beautiful moment.
Kimberly:they, first of all, their vocal performance was really, they brought their
Kimberly:A game, obviously they came out swinging.
Tammy:They're on their A game.
Tammy:They really are fan.
Tammy:Do what you have to do to go, because this is an A level show.
Tammy:It's amazing.
Kimberly:Killed it.
Kimberly:and like I said, I love them.
Kimberly:I, haven't been like a huge fan and followed them since
Kimberly:my high school days, just.
Kimberly:You know, that's just way it is sometimes
Tammy:with your, your grow outta band grow in different phases.
Tammy:Yeah.
Kimberly:after we've been talking about it and I was checking out, some clips
Kimberly:from the concerts and even some previous years, I just really didn't realize what
Kimberly:strong vocal performers they really were.
Kimberly:I just really never knew.
Kimberly:And to hear them like that and to end with that heartfelt hug, you could
Kimberly:tell there was just so much going on.
Kimberly:I can only imagine the kind of courage and strength it took
Kimberly:to do this tour without Fletch.
Kimberly:Cause he was such an right, integral part of the group.
Kimberly:I'm like, hats off to my boys.
Kimberly:Yes.
Kimberly:Your boys, they sound they really sounded amazing.
Tammy:Absolutely.
Tammy:And they have quite a following.
Tammy:this is an underground, really popular band with their core fan base.
Tammy:We're all a bit obsessive about this band.
Tammy:It's what they, I don't know, inspire there, there's just something
Tammy:about it, but, there's a lot.
Tammy:There's a huge worldwide fan base, which is interesting cuz
Tammy:they're not, like a top 40 or even just, I don't know, they're not.
Tammy:A u2, like they're, a band that attracts all of the deep slash goth.
Tammy:I don't consider myself goth, but certainly there a lot of
Tammy:goth are attracted to them, and.
Tammy:So of all of the misfits, it's the misfit people and Gen X people, the people
Tammy:who feel like they've been, misplaced or outside the norm or, don't fit in.
Tammy:Like all those kinds of themes all come together for these shows and it's great.
Tammy:That's what makes it so great too, is you just look around there, you're just like,
Tammy:yeah, these are all my outsiders people.
Tammy:This is my.
Tammy:Because, yeah, so there's just such a, um, and, you know, people from
Tammy:all walks of life, but, one thing you have in common, if you love
Tammy:Depeche Mode, you're an outsider.
Tammy:And, um, that's what we all have in common and it's a great sense of community.
Tammy:Well,
Kimberly:and, and I think it's awesome that they, Played, had this tour
Kimberly:with, new music and didn't necessarily go back to some of those old tunes
Kimberly:because for a lot of bands, they maybe don't have the courage to do that.
Kimberly:They're like, the fans are expecting, people are people,
Kimberly:my God, we better play that.
Kimberly:That's, or people will feel cheated or something.
Kimberly:And I think it's great.
Kimberly:It's like they're playing for their fans and they're playing for themselves.
Kimberly:Right?
Tammy:They are, they are a hundred percent, like they're, I don't
Tammy:think they would put in anything that they didn't feel good about.
Tammy:For this tour in particular, I don't know about other tours, but for this
Tammy:tour, and I think I read something about that, like not everybody's gonna be
Tammy:happy with the fan list or with the set list because there are some things that
Tammy:people are probably gonna wanna hear that aren't on there, but we're just.
Tammy:It's, it's not where we are.
Tammy:So I respect
Kimberly:that.
Kimberly:Totally.
Kimberly:I'm just so happy that you know it
Tammy:in, I don't wanna go hear a shitty version of, one of my favorite songs cause
Tammy:I don't feel like performing it anymore.
Tammy:Just to please, this is great version.
Tammy:the album version.
Kimberly:Right.
Kimberly:And I, and I think it's great because I think for, you know, you see the arc of
Kimberly:some bands, they just, they get stuck playing those songs from 30 years ago,
Kimberly:and the performers and the singers can no longer sing them the way they did.
Kimberly:So, yeah.
Kimberly:So it's kind of disappointing, And I was really impressed with hearing
Kimberly:how great they sounded live because I know with some of that type of
Kimberly:music, it sounds great in the studio, but it's really hard to, replicate
Kimberly:in a live stadium setting like that.
Kimberly:So I'm like, that's off to them cuz they sounded great.
Kimberly:the music sounded great and their voices were just, Over the top.
Tammy:There's one other, component of this band that's been really
Tammy:important since the beginning, and that is the collaboration with, Anton
Tammy:Corbin, who does all their imagery.
Tammy:He's done all of their videos from the very beginning.
Tammy:He does the backdrop of the, all of the video and imagery
Tammy:for the show, and it's stunning.
Tammy:And without him, he creates such.
Tammy:What is it?
Tammy:Such a vibe.
Tammy:he's like the fifth member of the band because without him and that
Tammy:imagery and how he is portraying the band, I don't think they
Tammy:would be as popular with mm-hmm.
Tammy:US outsiders.
Tammy:I really don't.
Tammy:He, there's something about how he's able to translate that and
Tammy:they have never veered from.
Tammy:They've smart with them the whole time.
Tammy:Smart.
Tammy:And if you look back on their eighties videos, never Let me Down.
Tammy:Or Even Personal, Jesus, he did those.
Tammy:Look at those.
Tammy:They're stunning.
Tammy:Yeah, they are.
Kimberly:Even now, even you look at them now, even
Tammy:now.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:still stunning.
Kimberly:Ahead of the time, ahead of their time.
Tammy:the fact that, what, 45, 40, I don't know how many years
Tammy:we're still listening to that.
Tammy:It's still relevant.
Tammy:It's still, there's still amazing songs.
Tammy:They still just blow away most other songs.
Tammy:is just incredible.
Tammy:Like, you can go back today and listen to those and just go and just be like moved
Kimberly:by them.
Kimberly:Absolutely.
Kimberly:Absolutely.
Kimberly:that's a, you know, know, the sign of some great music, some great artistry where.
Kimberly:You can listen to their songs now and they still sound, fresh
Kimberly:and they still pop, right?
Kimberly:Because I'll be, you know, sometimes driving out on the road and I'll,
Kimberly:catch one of those, eighties, eighties nineties stations and they'll, people
Kimberly:are, people will pop out and like, Like still my song, you know, these still.
Kimberly:Mm-hmm.
Kimberly:It still sounds great.
Kimberly:I love that.
Kimberly:Yeah.
Tammy:Yeah,
Kimberly:absolutely.
Kimberly:I'm so excited and so happy that you had that opportunity to go there.
Kimberly:And, before we head out, I, I did want to, talk to you just about some of those,
Kimberly:what do they call it, post-production blues, post show blues, where it's
Kimberly:like the endorphins have worn off.
Kimberly:And, so
Tammy:tell us about that.
Tammy:That's really interesting point.
Tammy:I wanted to pull up an article, we'll link it down below.
Tammy:it's from a therapy site, but it's, called Post Concert
Tammy:Depression, and it's very real.
Tammy:And I'll just read, post concert depression is a type of depression that
Tammy:occurs after one attends a concert.
Tammy:Causing them to feel sad, particularly after a show that was much anticipated.
Tammy:The excitement and energy a person feels when looking forward to a
Tammy:concert can make them feel more motivated, hopeful, and happier.
Tammy:Additional thrilling aspects include travel, hotel
Tammy:accommodations, or a new outfit.
Tammy:A person may also experience some nostalgia and surrealness when seeing
Tammy:a band performing live for sure.
Tammy:returning to the real world post concert can feel like a culture shock,
Tammy:similar to returning from a vacation or a memorable, fun wedding reception
Tammy:that goes on to, describe it more.
Tammy:But that's, that's exactly it.
Tammy:I didn't, I did have.
Tammy:I never thought about it in that way, but I remember the first time I saw Depeche
Tammy:Mode in, which was, I think in 2006, time, 2005, 2006, whenever that was.
Tammy:And I remember, oh my God, did I go through, I had no idea it was
Tammy:gonna be such a emotional experie.
Tammy:Such a spiritual experience, such a outta my body experience show.
Tammy:And I came back I can't adjust.
Tammy:I don't wanna be back in the real world like this feels awful.
Tammy:It felt better at the sh I wanna feel like that.
Tammy:and so that's when I started becoming obsessed with them and seeing
Tammy:them, you know, multiple times.
Tammy:But, you know, fast forward to now, I didn't have that level of depress.
Tammy:But it did hit me.
Tammy:It hit me on Monday, like I was still on a high on Sunday, and then
Tammy:Monday it, like, you know, going back to work and wrecked a real life.
Tammy:That's when I really started to crash and feels like a withdrawal almost.
Tammy:and then I couldn't like, and then I got sick On top of it
Tammy:and I couldn't really look.
Tammy:For a while, for that first week, I couldn't look online at people
Tammy:going to shows because I was just so bummed that it was over.
Tammy:I couldn't, I just couldn't look at it.
Tammy:but I can now, but that first week I was just like, I can't
Tammy:hear what's going on in la.
Tammy:I can't, I can't, you know, like that anticipation of going to the show
Tammy:and just, and how great it was and how connecting it was and then you
Tammy:go back to, yeah, just normal life and, so it's a very real thing for.
Tammy:Um, not every show, not every concert I go to, but those ones that you really look
Tammy:forward to or you really love the band and it's just, I've talked on the show
Tammy:about other concerts that I've been to.
Tammy:I had that experience seeing the fix a few years in 2019.
Tammy:I had just a deeply spiritual experience seeing them at the show.
Tammy:And boy did that take a while to get over that.
Tammy:So I wonder if anybody else experiences that or if anybody else can relate.
Tammy:And if you can, please comment below.
Tammy:So I know that I'm not alone.
Tammy:I must not be alone cuz someone wrote an article about it so, well
Tammy:there's more posted down below.
Kimberly:So there's Tammy in that, that one jar list, right?
Kimberly:Yes.
Kimberly:No, but I think you're onto something.
Kimberly:I mean it's, it's kind of similar cause I do, know, the.
Kimberly:Theatrical type, productions as well.
Kimberly:It's like there's so much energy goes into it and it's I'm looking forward to it.
Kimberly:Looking forward to it.
Kimberly:Little tension.
Kimberly:Oh my god, it gonna work out, huh.
Kimberly:You know, and it's, you know, the energy's running high
Tammy:and
Kimberly:then it's over, then it's over.
Kimberly:And you can't go back.
Tammy:And you don't know when it's gonna happen again.
Tammy:Or it's at the end of it.
Tammy:and then you were like, you have to kind of go through a bit of a grieving pro if.
Tammy:You know, like they mentioned the, show or a wedding or an event.
Tammy:same thing.
Tammy:there's a loss that occurs after it.
Tammy:Mm-hmm.
Kimberly:Yeah.
Kimberly:And
Tammy:also, and I don't, I'm not looking forward to that anymore.
Tammy:Like, yeah.
Kimberly:And also the, you know, the coming together of the
Kimberly:people and you have to disperse and there's a lot that goes on.
Kimberly:Yeah.
Kimberly:With that.
Kimberly:And I think it's important to, to acknowledge, be so people don't
Kimberly:feel like, oh, it's not just me.
Kimberly:Oh, I'm crazy.
Kimberly:It's no, you had this.
Kimberly:First of all, this is the first, their first tour in, what, four
Kimberly:years or something like that?
Kimberly:Mm-hmm.
Kimberly:Mm-hmm.
Kimberly:Five years.
Kimberly:So that, that element after the pandemic and then with Fletches.
Kimberly:Yeah.
Kimberly:passing also in the mix.
Kimberly:So it's very emotional.
Kimberly:It's like a recipe for a lot of emotions to be flying around.
Kimberly:That's for sure.
Tammy:And actually, their shows are emotional anyway.
Tammy:Mm-hmm.
Tammy:They're always very emotional, like very spiritual on some.
Tammy:Cosmic level, at least in my experience, and I'm sure many others too.
Tammy:But yeah, the depth of emotion that you feel at the show and then the.
Tammy:Uplifting, happiness and joy and spirituality, you know,
Tammy:just being transported somewhere during the whole thing.
Tammy:And then you go back to the, your real life, like, wait.
Kimberly:And then on top of that, you're sick too, right?
Tammy:I mean, yeah.
Tammy:You know, it's, it's no wonder you hear of bands that.
Tammy:Have trouble coming off the road.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:And it's probably similar to that.
Tammy:You're on this high on stage and you're getting this energy, you're
Tammy:exchange this exchange of energy with the crowd and you, and it's real.
Tammy:And then they come off stage and then if they're touring, they go to another
Tammy:city and they keep repeating and then, What do you do when you have to go home?
Tammy:In fact, James Hetfield from Metallica talked about this and
Tammy:said that some of his addiction that he was struggling with was that
Tammy:transition to going home after tour.
Tammy:That he just couldn't, he couldn't adjust.
Tammy:What do you mean I have to take out the trash bin or what do I do now?
Tammy:And.
Tammy:I think that's true for a lot of our, that struggle is true for a lot of people.
Tammy:Some people don't like to tour as much and wanna be home more, I
Tammy:think, especially as they get older.
Tammy:But, uh, I can imagine just as a fan, totally experiencing
Tammy:that and having to go back.
Tammy:What if it's every other night for a year and then it's over?
Tammy:So I think they call that post tour depression.
Tammy:I'm sure there's an article on that stuff, right?
Tammy:I'm sure there's a couple articles.
Tammy:Sure.
Tammy:It's real.
Tammy:I'm sure it's very.
Kimberly:True.
Kimberly:and for any, performers that wanna come on our show and talk about it, give us
Kimberly:their firsthand experience with that.
Kimberly:We welcome you, we, we would love to know more about it because, we as
Kimberly:fans and as people that participate, we have our own range of feelings.
Kimberly:But yeah, you, I can imagine what that would be like to, you know, you've been
Kimberly:out on the road for a year and all of a sudden that it just stops and that whole.
Kimberly:Community that you built is now dispersed.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:That whole community and then returning to, yeah, normal life's boring.
Kimberly:Where it's I gotta take out the garbage and cook tonight.
Kimberly:Wait, what?
Kimberly:where's my tour?
Kimberly:Or where's my stage?
Kimberly:Yeah.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:Where's shouting my name and where what happened to that?
Kimberly:It's like, sure, here's the garbage and you know where it goes, dear.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:Right, right.
Kimberly:I'm, and I'm your number one fan, so I'm saying that with love.
Kimberly:Right,
Tammy:right.
Tammy:Get to work, get your kid together and pitch in around the house.
Tammy:You've been gone for a year.
Kimberly:Yeah.
Kimberly:But that's, you know, not everyone can make those transitions.
Kimberly:Some people love to be back at home and they love that.
Kimberly:Yeah.
Kimberly:Seems like, you know, some type of balance is probably a good idea.
Tammy:Probably,
Kimberly:probably.
Kimberly:Awesome.
Kimberly:Well, I'm so glad you had a chance to make it to that concert.
Kimberly:I'm sorry you got sick, but I'm so glad you're back at it.
Kimberly:I was like, where's my girl, Tammy?
Tammy:I know this would've gotten sooner had I not, been down with the
Tammy:plague or whatever I have, but, but we wanted to get this out and just really.
Tammy:Give a shout out to Depeche Mode and all the Depeche Mode fans.
Tammy:I see you,
Kimberly:we, we see you and hear you
Tammy:like, yes, uh, uh, we're here with you and, please, please comment and
Tammy:share and for other Depeche Mode fans as well, and would love to hear from you.
Kimberly:Absolutely.
Kimberly:And we hope that we'll have, Tammy back on specifically talking.
Kimberly:The second, at least the second, concert you get a chance to
Kimberly:go to, if not more, right?
Tammy:Yeah, I do.
Tammy:I have some con some more concerts, coming up, so there'll be more reports.
Tammy:It'll be a good concert year.
Tammy:Hopefully I won't get sick at the others.
Tammy:Hopefully this is just the, maybe, hopefully I'm getting
Tammy:this outta my system now and I'll be, my immunity will be good to.
Tammy:Absolutely awesome.
Tammy:But you know, it's kind of a real issue now with, we're still facing covid and
Tammy:that kind of thing and it is a risk.
Tammy:It's still a risk to go to these shows.
Tammy:And this one was indoors and I knew it was a risk, it was just a
Tammy:risk I was willing to take because I just had to see Depeche mode.
Kimberly:and that's, that's completely understand.
Kimberly:Yeah.
Kimberly:Got it.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:I would rethink other indoor shows.
Tammy:me personally, now I'm like, And the next shows I have coming up are all outdoors.
Tammy:Cool.
Kimberly:Great.
Kimberly:I'll be in the breeze with everybody else.
Kimberly:Yeah, right.
Kimberly:But it's, it's something to think about.
Kimberly:It's like, and we've talked about this, before it's real, you know,
Kimberly:these, our favorite groups that we came up with are getting older.
Kimberly:They're not gonna be on tour forever.
Kimberly:we hope they go on as long as they can, but that's reality.
Kimberly:So it's like if you're a super fan, you wanna catch 'em when you can.
Kimberly:That makes total sense, right?
Tammy:Yeah.
Tammy:Yep.
Tammy:Had to do it.
Kimberly:Awesome.
Kimberly:Well, that is our, uh, on the ground reporting of that, concert coverage.
Kimberly:And we'll have some special footage also related to that concert.
Kimberly:And, like we said, let us know how you're handling all this, business with touring.
Kimberly:Have you been out there?
Kimberly:What shows have you seen?
Kimberly:Did you get sick too?
Kimberly:we able to and what worked for you as far as your recovery,
Kimberly:ginger tea, and chicken soup.
Kimberly:Now we'd love to, hear, what other people's experiences are and we'll
Kimberly:be back for a full episode of all the goings on, cause there's
Kimberly:plenty happening right now, too.
Tammy:Awesome.
Tammy:Thanks everyone.
Tammy:Thanks for
Kimberly:watching.
Kimberly:Thanks.
Kimberly:Thanks for watching.