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DEPECHE MODE CONCERT REVIEW! SAN JOSE 2023 MEMENTO MORI, POST-CONCERT DEPRESSION
Episode 1210th April 2023 • Women of Rock • Kimberly Gunn and Tammy Holzer
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Women of Rock Concert Special - hosts Kimberly Gunn and Tammy Holzer discuss Tammy's experience attending the Depeche Mode show in San Jose on March 25, 2023; concert etiquette, and post-concert and post-tour depression.

Depeche Mode - Walking In My Shoes ft. BBC Concert Orchestra (Radio 2 Piano Room)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lok52VfIE_c


Depeche Mode - Ghosts Again ft. BBC Concert Orchestra (Radio 2 Piano Room)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD9e_nZ4y_c


Post-Concert Depression (Article)

https://www.choosingtherapy.com/post-concert-depression/


#depechemode #mementomori

Transcripts

Kimberly:

Greetings, and welcome to this latest edition of The Women of Rock.

Kimberly:

I'm one of your hosts, Kimberly.

Kimberly:

Hi, I'm Tammy.

Kimberly:

Hey, and our channel is all about the goings on in the world of rock

Kimberly:

and our favorite rock musicians.

Kimberly:

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and the notifications bell so you to miss a single episode of season two.

Kimberly:

Now I'm gonna turn it over to my girl, Tammy, who has some on the ground

Kimberly:

reporting from a huge world tour.

Kimberly:

Tammy, what's going on?

Tammy:

Okay, so today's a special edition.

Tammy:

We're gonna devote today's episode to Depeche Mode, and I recently saw Depeche

Tammy:

Mode, their second concert in San Jose for this new tour, the Momentum MO tour.

Tammy:

And just wanted to give my overall, experience and impressions and and

Tammy:

recap of how fabulous it was really.

Kimberly:

Could we are so excited to hear, because I've been seeing in the news.

Kimberly:

I know a bunch.

Kimberly:

Everyone's been checking it out.

Kimberly:

I've seen, really positive reviews.

Kimberly:

So, you know, before we launch into the show, can you just give us a wrap up of

Kimberly:

how you got that ticket, because I know it was sort of like, you know, Charlie

Kimberly:

from Willy Wonka, how you got that golden ticket and got that made it in there.

Kimberly:

So how'd you get that

Tammy:

ticket?

Tammy:

Um, well first of all, let me say, you can probably tell by my voice that I

Tammy:

am sick and unfortunately, I believe I did get sick from going to the event.

Tammy:

It was an indoor, concert.

Tammy:

It's not covid, but it's some other, or combination of other, viruses that pretty

Tammy:

much took me down for like nine days.

Tammy:

there's that, still recover.

Tammy:

My ear is completely, plugged and like pretty much swollen this half of

Tammy:

my face, but still totally worth it.

Tammy:

I did not regret going.

Tammy:

It was a, amazing experience.

Tammy:

So anyway, that being said, the, I got the ticket through Ticketmaster.

Tammy:

It.

Tammy:

About six months ago, I think.

Tammy:

I think, well, last October, so six months ago, and it was the sign

Tammy:

up for the verified fan through Ticketmaster, and I believe I got a link.

Tammy:

to, I don't remember for that particular one, you didn't have to

Tammy:

sign up for a particular show, you just had to have a link and all the

Tammy:

shows went on sale at the same time.

Tammy:

But there were only like, maybe six shows in North America and Depeche

Tammy:

Mode has not toured in five years.

Tammy:

I think typically they tour about every four years is their cycle.

Tammy:

And they recently lost, Fletcher, Andrew Fletcher from the band.

Tammy:

So, This might be the last time they tour a Actually, we say that every time,

Tammy:

this might be the last time they tour.

Tammy:

This isn't, but you never know it could be.

Tammy:

And the fact that they were only doing a handful of shows in North America and then

Tammy:

going overseas, it was like, whoa, there's gonna be a major scramble for tickets.

Tammy:

So really, I got the code.

Tammy:

I was on my phone, my laptop.

Tammy:

Like, you know, at the, at the time it was released and I was trying for LA

Tammy:

and, San Jose and LA was like, forget it.

Tammy:

it was just in line forever and the first thing that I could get on was San Jose.

Tammy:

So I just grabbed it and I grabbed a ticket.

Tammy:

My, the ticket itself ended up being, I was in the 100 level.

Tammy:

I had decent seats.

Tammy:

I chose seats that were facing the band, not right next to the band because

Tammy:

I had ha I had been to a concert, a show for Johnny Mar in another city,

Tammy:

and it was an arena type setting.

Tammy:

And I was, I chose a seat, like closer to the band, but I was

Tammy:

sitting sideways and it sucked because it was not a great ar arena.

Tammy:

And everyone was like smushed together and no one was standing.

Tammy:

So I'm like squished in between people and look and having to look over to the right.

Tammy:

I'm like, I'm not doing that again.

Tammy:

I'm gonna, I'm goodness.

Tammy:

and that being said, the SAP center, I don't know if it's called

Tammy:

SAP or S SAP Center or whatever in San Jose is a great venue.

Tammy:

Oh, awesome.

Tammy:

There is amazing.

Tammy:

And I was kicking myself.

Tammy:

Damnit, I should've got a seat, but I didn't know I never been there.

Tammy:

Could've got a seat closer.

Tammy:

it would've been, I would've been, the, the the views were great.

Tammy:

I didn't feel that far away, but I just realized like,

Tammy:

the, now this is a good arena.

Tammy:

there's not a bad seat here, Anyway, so when I got the tickets, it was just like,

Tammy:

I'm going, and I think they were out the door with ticket master fees and all that.

Tammy:

I think around $200.

Tammy:

Wow.

Tammy:

Okay.

Tammy:

Wanted to get.

Tammy:

I really ideally wanna be on the floor.

Tammy:

as we've talked about on this channel many times, floor seats were going for $3,000.

Tammy:

By the way, who is on the floor?

Tammy:

Did those people pay $3,000?

Tammy:

Did they wait?

Tammy:

Like it's sold out really fast?

Tammy:

I don't know.

Tammy:

it'd be interesting to see to know.

Tammy:

People paid.

Kimberly:

Not, but not too bad.

Kimberly:

it wasn't a mortgage payment.

Tammy:

It wasn't a mortgage payment.

Tammy:

No.

Tammy:

Or a trip to Europe.

Tammy:

And that was presale, A trip to that was presale and I, and then I went on the

Tammy:

day that they went on sale, and it was like a hundred dollars more for my seat.

Tammy:

Oh, wow.

Tammy:

Okay.

Tammy:

Like the area instantly.

Tammy:

and then it sold out really

Kimberly:

quick.

Kimberly:

Yeah, so you got, once you got one and got one, because we've been talking

Kimberly:

about this for a couple months.

Tammy:

I, yeah, I've been looking forward to this for months and, so

Tammy:

Sacramento was their first show on March 23rd, and then the one I went to

Tammy:

was their second show on March 25th.

Tammy:

And it was just electric.

Tammy:

it.

Tammy:

Everyone there, 19,000 people, everyone there was so happy and so excited.

Tammy:

I've never seen a Depeche mode like, okay, first of all, let me set the

Tammy:

stage for a Depeche Mode concert.

Tammy:

If you've never been to a Depeche Mode concert, typically, Depeche

Tammy:

Mode fans are a bit obsessive with the band myself for sure.

Tammy:

and so it just, they have.

Tammy:

And heavy themes around life and death.

Tammy:

Not really life, more like death, um, you know, love, sex and religion.

Tammy:

And so this, so typically when I go to a Depeche Mode concert, it's

Tammy:

uplifting for sure, but it's, I always have an emotional hangover afterward

Tammy:

cuz it's so just deep and connecting.

Tammy:

So this was a little different because.

Tammy:

People didn't go in expecting that deep brooding experience.

Tammy:

I guess Was the vibe.

Tammy:

It was more like, we are so fucking happy to be here.

Tammy:

Oh, everybody, people were so nice.

Tammy:

I, okay.

Tammy:

And so when I got there, again, 19,000 people.

Tammy:

Like me, similar in age, all wearing black, all dressed for

Tammy:

the show, all just psyched.

Tammy:

You.

Tammy:

Okay, you gotta show your t-shirt, Jenna.

Tammy:

Just Yes.

Tammy:

this is what I was getting to, so I should, so here my sweatshirt

Tammy:

of the band and, and then it has the tour dates on the back.

Tammy:

But I, I noticed this really long line.

Tammy:

Up the stairs and around, and I'm like, what is that?

Tammy:

Is that like for the bar?

Tammy:

Excuse me?

Tammy:

What is she staying in line for?

Tammy:

Are you

Kimberly:

trying to get a drink?

Tammy:

It was the merch line.

Tammy:

Oh, really?

Tammy:

And it was two lines going up the stairs around.

Tammy:

So I'm like, Damn let me get a beer and then stand in the merch wine.

Tammy:

Well, that's exactly what I did got, like the, they sold

Tammy:

the big can of beer, whatever.

Tammy:

I'm like, okay, this'll last for a while.

Tammy:

This will last for this line.

Tammy:

I was in that line for an hour and I missed completely.

Tammy:

Oh.

Tammy:

I'm like, I'm committed now.

Tammy:

I'm in line.

Tammy:

I'm not gonna get outta line.

Tammy:

And I can't wear these online.

Tammy:

online.

Tammy:

It's at the concert only.

Tammy:

So I'm like, So by the time I got to the front of the line and drank that big beer,

Tammy:

I was like, okay, I'll take that and that.

Tammy:

So I spent way more than I anticipated, and the prices were,

Tammy:

I gotta say outrageous, like holy cow, nothing was less than $50.

Tammy:

This sweatshirt was a hundred dollars.

Tammy:

Wow.

Tammy:

And I bought a long sleeve shirt on top of it that was like, $75.

Tammy:

that was a little bit of a hangover the next day too, of damn, how

Tammy:

much did I just spend on merch?

Tammy:

That wasn't a drop on this show, but, but I got caught up in the moment and

Tammy:

there was just this feeling of I don't know when we're gonna see him again.

Tammy:

and, Everybody in line was super nice, like just chit chatting, like

Tammy:

the excitement was just palpable.

Tammy:

Like in the lobby, in the venue, and even the first couple of songs, the whole

Tammy:

thing, people were just, Going crazy.

Tammy:

I've never seen a Depeche Mode concert.

Tammy:

Like I think the band were blown away too.

Tammy:

They were just holy cow.

Tammy:

And I think there was so much compassion for, and sadness in a way,

Tammy:

or celebration of the last two members.

Tammy:

And that flex was no longer on the stage and the way the band

Tammy:

was configured was different.

Tammy:

they've got two band members that have been longtime

Tammy:

touring members with them too.

Tammy:

drummer and, bass player.

Tammy:

but it was just like, you know, and then there were two.

Tammy:

it was just weird.

Kimberly:

yeah.

Kimberly:

And if you could remind our listeners, fle, he passed away, was it last year?

Tammy:

He pa he passed away, don't remember, I could Google the exact

Tammy:

date, but it was last year and it was during the process of them making

Tammy:

their new album called Memento Mok.

Tammy:

And Memento Mok literally means, remember, you must die.

Tammy:

And so it's just a, again, full on with the Depeche Mode theme, but the fact

Tammy:

that they started writing it before this happened, Was a, it was a little weird.

Tammy:

And also that it's like where the they are as humans, each album that they've done.

Tammy:

And every time I've seen them on tour, which, has been quite a number

Tammy:

of times since 2005 or 2006 was the first time I've saw 'em, I never

Tammy:

saw 'em in the eighties or anything.

Tammy:

I've only seen them, in.

Tammy:

In this, century, but, it's always been, there's a dynamic between Dave

Tammy:

Gahan and Martin Gore and that's played out within the band over the years.

Tammy:

And, I've watched them mature and mature in age.

Tammy:

so it just seems like Memento Mori is a reflection of where they are now,

Tammy:

as humans just facing, end of life.

Tammy:

not end of life right now, but the last chapters of life and just

Tammy:

remembering that we're all gonna die.

Tammy:

So em embracing life.

Tammy:

So it sounds dark, but it's really hopeful.

Kimberly:

And that's not easy to, it's not easy to pull that

Kimberly:

off, to, to navigate that.

Tammy:

Well, the band, the themes of the band for anybody who doesn't.

Tammy:

like I said, the themes of the band are, deaf, religion, and sex.

Tammy:

All those are the themes they explore.

Tammy:

But it's also, but again, it's also uplifting

Kimberly:

Yeah, yeah.

Kimberly:

Would you say that this, is it Memento Mok?

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Would you say that that's like a departure from their traditional

Kimberly:

sound, or is it in line?

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Okay.

Tammy:

Um, and here's one thing I wanna say, and, wanna talk a little bit about

Tammy:

the concert itself and the songs and stuff, but I did notice people around.

Tammy:

So there's the eighties Depeche mode.

Tammy:

Like people are people and everything counts and, just can't get enough.

Tammy:

So if you're an eighties fan of Depeche Mode and you're coming to

Tammy:

the concert to hear, I just can't get enough, you're gonna be really

Tammy:

disappointed because it's not.

Tammy:

They've grown past that.

Tammy:

It's been 40,

Kimberly:

40 I was in high school, isn't it that stuff, And

Tammy:

they, and they've continued, they haven't stopped as a band.

Tammy:

They have continued recording and touring and evolving all this time.

Tammy:

It never stopped.

Tammy:

So I did see a few people in front of me that I think we're thinking,

Tammy:

I'm gonna go see Depeche Mode.

Tammy:

Remember them from the eighties, if that's what you're thinking.

Tammy:

you might be disappointed because they have really grown and changed since then.

Tammy:

That being said, I love their music.

Tammy:

I love everything that they've done after the eighties.

Tammy:

I like the, I lo there's a few things from the eighties that I,

Tammy:

eighties and nineties that I love, personal Jesus, there are more, but

Tammy:

now they closed with those songs.

Tammy:

Typically they closed with, usually goodnight or usually, never let me down.

Tammy:

But this time they closed with personal Jesus, which was really interesting.

Tammy:

And they did do some rearranging of some of the songs too.

Tammy:

So it's a walk through their music.

Tammy:

Pretty, I would say from, they picked a few songs, I think from

Tammy:

each era, but there's not a lot from the eighties and there's some songs

Tammy:

that I love that they didn't play.

Tammy:

And I think, and I've seen some online posts, like people are I don't know

Tammy:

about the set list, but doesn't matter.

Tammy:

We love Depeche Mode, but again, we're going, if you're going.

Tammy:

I would recommend being a hardcore Depeche Mode fan.

Tammy:

If you are, it's fricking amazing.

Tammy:

If you're going there to expect eighties Depeche mode,

Tammy:

you're gonna be disappointed.

Kimberly:

which is so interesting though, because I was able to, I

Kimberly:

was looking at the set list and I watched the, is it Ghost Stories?

Kimberly:

Is that the name of the song Ghost Again, ghost.

Kimberly:

Absolutely.

Kimberly:

It's a really interesting song and really interesting video.

Kimberly:

very, evocative maybe is the word.

Kimberly:

And Oh yeah.

Kimberly:

For me, because I'm not, I really like De Pema.

Kimberly:

I'm not a fan like you have been, but since I've known you,

Kimberly:

we've been talking about it.

Kimberly:

I've, I'm like really into their music and exploring more about it.

Kimberly:

And I think this tour and this latest, release, I think it really shows

Kimberly:

their depth and their, variety and their talent, to be honest with you.

Kimberly:

Yes.

Tammy:

Thank you.

Tammy:

that's depth.

Tammy:

If there's one word to describe the band, it's depth and talent.

Tammy:

Amazing talent.

Tammy:

Amazing

Kimberly:

talent.

Kimberly:

I really didn't know.

Kimberly:

I'm, my experiences with them were from, the eighties people

Kimberly:

are people, that whole set

Tammy:

song and there, their music is great, but there's just been

Tammy:

a whole evolution since then.

Tammy:

And it's interesting, one of.

Tammy:

They, they opened with a few songs.

Tammy:

I'm just looking at the set list.

Tammy:

they opened it with a few songs from the new album and the third song

Tammy:

they played is Walking in My Shoes.

Tammy:

That's from the nineties, and that's one of those songs that I've always loved, but

Tammy:

for some reason it has evolved over time and I like it even more now than I did.

Tammy:

When it first came out, and I just read something about that, that the band said

Tammy:

the same thing, like something about that song has continued to evolve and

Tammy:

that's why they put it on the set list.

Tammy:

And they just did a recording with the bbc, through the BBC network.

Tammy:

And they recorded that song and ghost again, with an orchestra.

Tammy:

I'm not sure if they did a full concert with the orchestra, if it was just

Tammy:

those tho they posted on YouTube, those two songs, and they're amazing.

Tammy:

Oh, wow.

Tammy:

So we'll link those, down below, so you can take a look at those.

Tammy:

But, it's great.

Tammy:

They, they did every, everything Counts.

Tammy:

that's a, popular eighties song.

Tammy:

Some of the newer songs that I really.

Tammy:

Uh, they performed, but it seemed that they did a different

Tammy:

arrangement, which was interesting.

Tammy:

So, um, precious is a song from, I believe it's playing the Angel, from 2006 2007.

Tammy:

which was good.

Tammy:

Little bit different, arrangement.

Tammy:

a couple songs that are more recent to.

Tammy:

Oh, a paint that I'm used to.

Tammy:

I think that was also from Playing the Angel, which I really great.

Tammy:

Great song.

Tammy:

wrong.

Tammy:

That's one of, I think that's from, is that from Delta?

Tammy:

Delta Spirit.

Tammy:

Great song.

Tammy:

But again, different arrangement.

Tammy:

John, the Revelator great song, little bit different arrangement.

Tammy:

So you gotta really like, know a lot of these records from new

Tammy:

to appreciate these songs and.

Tammy:

So I have to say like overall it was, I was just so happy to see him on stage

Tammy:

and like I knew every single song.

Tammy:

I didn't know all of the new songs, but I knew every single song and,

Tammy:

okay, so the thing about standing up at concerts, this is such a pet peeve.

Tammy:

I think I've talked about this a few times, but.

Tammy:

There have been times where I've been in front row of a concert,

Tammy:

but it was like I, was, heart.

Tammy:

And sticks.

Tammy:

And it was at the, it was like a fairground tour

Tammy:

concert, during the summer.

Tammy:

And the demographic was a little bit older age, And I was in the

Tammy:

second row and people behind me were telling me to sit down.

Tammy:

I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

Tammy:

Never went to a fairgrounds show again because of that reason.

Tammy:

But I have that problem here again, wow.

Tammy:

Really?

Tammy:

So I was in the 100 level.

Tammy:

Everyone below me was standing up except for the people directly, in front of

Tammy:

me, which I suspect were, I like the eighties Depeche mode cuz they sat

Tammy:

like this through the whole thing.

Tammy:

And then when they heard, when

Kimberly:

they gonna play those songs, I like, right?

Tammy:

And then when they heard just can't get enough at the end, then

Tammy:

they stood up and they were happy.

Tammy:

But it took until the very end, the encore for them to stand up.

Tammy:

And I'm like, ah, 80 people don't bother.

Tammy:

Everybody to the left of me, I could see were standing up for

Tammy:

the most part, in the same level.

Tammy:

So that, so somebody behind me tapped me on the shoulder and

Tammy:

said, do you mind sitting down?

Tammy:

And I was just, oh, wow.

Tammy:

And I was like, and.

Tammy:

I, and I was like, you know what, n I can't guarantee that I'm

Tammy:

gonna sit down through the show.

Tammy:

Sorry.

Tammy:

I love that.

Tammy:

I love that.

Tammy:

You knows really nice about it.

Tammy:

which the people at Sticks and Heart were like, sit down,

Tammy:

yelling at you, yelling at me.

Tammy:

throwing rotten food nice about it, but I'm just like, I'm sorry, I, I'll

Tammy:

sit down here and, but I'm not gonna.

Tammy:

and I said it very nicely, smile.

Tammy:

Why are you going to a concert if you are expecting people to sit down?

Tammy:

I just don't understand it.

Tammy:

I don't, especially in that style was the asshole standing up.

Tammy:

like whatever.

Kimberly:

And we have talked about this in one of our previous episodes.

Kimberly:

If you wanna go check that out from season one, because my whole point

Kimberly:

is, How are you listening to this this music and not moving anything?

Kimberly:

Like I don't get it.

Tammy:

No.

Tammy:

And why are you there?

Tammy:

Why are you here?

Tammy:

Stay home.

Tammy:

Probably got the damn virus from you.

Tammy:

the non-moving

Kimberly:

person.

Tammy:

It ruins it for the

Kimberly:

rest of us.

Kimberly:

And having said that,

Tammy:

maybe song.

Tammy:

Come on,

Kimberly:

Ryan.

Kimberly:

I was gonna say, having said that, maybe concert etiquette has really changed

Kimberly:

up where people just, feel shy or embarrassed about doing that or something.

Kimberly:

I don't know.

Tammy:

That's one thing.

Tammy:

Don't ask me to sit down.

Tammy:

Right.

Kimberly:

I'm standing.

Tammy:

Do what you want.

Tammy:

Don't ask me to change my behavior when you can see how into the concert

Tammy:

and everyone around me is standing up.

Tammy:

Fuck you.

Tammy:

I'm sorry, but you can stand

Kimberly:

up

Tammy:

too.

Tammy:

You can stand up too.

Tammy:

Like it's okay.

Tammy:

It's okay.

Tammy:

You're not into it.

Tammy:

That's your problem.

Tammy:

That's not my problem.

Tammy:

If you came to see eighties Depeche mode, A friend drug.

Tammy:

You here, I'm, that's not my problem.

Tammy:

Don't influence my behavior when I That's so interesting.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

it's not the theater folks, right?

Kimberly:

We don't stand up in theater like that.

Kimberly:

But at a rock concert, especially with that type of music, I you

Kimberly:

see the performers dancing.

Kimberly:

I saw clips, and he was moving.

Tammy:

Yeah, I was not alone.

Tammy:

I, you're not alone.

Tammy:

You gotta be kidding me.

Tammy:

So I did see, somebody had posted a few photos and videos and stuff from, I think

Tammy:

they were in the 200 level and they made a comment, everyone around me sucked.

Tammy:

like they were, yeah.

Tammy:

They weren't appreciating it or standing up or whatever.

Tammy:

And I'm just like, oh god, it's the worst.

Tammy:

And you can't predict that.

Tammy:

especially when you're scrambling to get tickets for something

Tammy:

like this, I don't know.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

What is concert etiquette?

Kimberly:

What is con?

Kimberly:

And if and if you're watching, please put it into the comments section.

Kimberly:

I thought it was okay to move and, show your appreciation.

Kimberly:

And that's what we call feedback, and the performers actually like that.

Kimberly:

Oh my

Tammy:

God.

Tammy:

Unbelievable.

Tammy:

so yeah, so I guess my final impressions of the show, are really

Tammy:

that, and they sa they sounded amazing.

Tammy:

Dave Gahan had more energy than I've seen in years.

Tammy:

I know he was struggling.

Tammy:

Through the last concert, he, last couple, tours, he had some illnesses

Tammy:

and it looked, he just looked really tired and drained and I heard he, he

Tammy:

had said in some interviews, doesn't know if he is, can do this again.

Tammy:

He is getting older and that kind of thing.

Tammy:

He's, I think he's 60 now and, he looked fantastic.

Tammy:

He was, Fire.

Tammy:

He was dancing around, he was into it.

Tammy:

He was excited.

Tammy:

it was amazing.

Tammy:

So he was better than ever.

Tammy:

Sounded amazing.

Tammy:

just awesome.

Tammy:

and obviously the band, and Martin Gore, Martin Gore is such a gigantic

Tammy:

talent of course, he, Martin Gore got out and sang, he always sings

Tammy:

a couple of songs during each.

Tammy:

Martin sounded better than I've ever heard him.

Tammy:

Ever.

Tammy:

Like his voice, I'm like, whoa.

Tammy:

Amazing.

Tammy:

What was going on?

Tammy:

not that it wasn't good before, but there was just something extra.

Tammy:

They did a nice tribute to Fletch, not.

Tammy:

Really, they didn't announce it or anything.

Tammy:

they played Fletcher's, say, favorite song called, A World, world

Tammy:

In My Eyes, from Violator, which is one of my favorite songs too.

Tammy:

of their, I have a lot of favorite songs.

Tammy:

That's a great song too.

Tammy:

And they flashed photos of him in the background.

Tammy:

They just did this like kind of morphine, images of him younger and.

Tammy:

It was, just beautiful and moving and everybody, it's without saying

Tammy:

it, everybody was there to I think push the band on, keep going.

Tammy:

we're so happy you're here.

Tammy:

Just keep going.

Tammy:

I, that's just what it felt like.

Tammy:

It just felt so celebratory.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Unbelievable.

Tammy:

I'm okay.

Tammy:

And they have since added shows at the end of the year, they have added another

Tammy:

leg, in December for US and North America.

Tammy:

I haven't gotten tickets yet, but I'm, I've a little sick rec's rec.

Tammy:

I'm totally gonna get to the, I can't wait.

Tammy:

I can't wait to see him.

Kimberly:

Yeah, that's cool.

Kimberly:

Cause I've been, reading up on it and reading reviews and I know that this

Kimberly:

was the first leg of their tour and then the second leg, they're off to Europe,

Kimberly:

like maybe yes, this week or something.

Kimberly:

And then they come back and, I read a really great review from, A journalist, a

Kimberly:

reviewer out of la they were played down there and they said the show was amazing.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

They went to LA after San Jose.

Tammy:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Really, really, really positive reviews of the

Kimberly:

concert and their performance.

Kimberly:

And, Tammy was hitting me up.

Kimberly:

She's I'm here.

Kimberly:

I'm like, how's it go?

Kimberly:

She's they sound great.

Kimberly:

And I was like, okay, now enjoy the show.

Kimberly:

So, and wanted you to enjoy the show without me texting every five minutes.

Tammy:

I filmed a few things.

Tammy:

Amazing.

Tammy:

But I just, and did, and snapped a few photos and stuff, but I really just wanted

Tammy:

to enjoy the concert as much as I could.

Tammy:

cuz it was so fabulous.

Tammy:

So I heard in Amazing, it was, there is a part where Martin Gore and Dave

Tammy:

Gahan come down and sing together.

Tammy:

I think even just a very like acoustic version of, I think it was soul with me.

Tammy:

Um, but I heard in.

Tammy:

I think it was La Dave Gohan said, everybody put down your damn phones and

Tammy:

watched the show to when they did that.

Tammy:

Cause it's such a nice moment between the two of them singing to each other,

Tammy:

which doesn't happen very often.

Tammy:

And then they hug at the end, which is for all of us who know Depeche Mode.

Tammy:

Dave and Martin have had this kind of contentious relationship for many years.

Tammy:

And to see them coming together now, Fletch is no longer there

Tammy:

to mediate or bridge that they have to work with each other now.

Tammy:

And to see them embracing each other and really in sync with each other was

Tammy:

just made everybody, it made me happy.

Tammy:

It made everybody so happy.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

I thought that was such a beautiful moment.

Kimberly:

they, first of all, their vocal performance was really, they brought their

Kimberly:

A game, obviously they came out swinging.

Tammy:

They're on their A game.

Tammy:

They really are fan.

Tammy:

Do what you have to do to go, because this is an A level show.

Tammy:

It's amazing.

Kimberly:

Killed it.

Kimberly:

and like I said, I love them.

Kimberly:

I, haven't been like a huge fan and followed them since

Kimberly:

my high school days, just.

Kimberly:

You know, that's just way it is sometimes

Tammy:

with your, your grow outta band grow in different phases.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

after we've been talking about it and I was checking out, some clips

Kimberly:

from the concerts and even some previous years, I just really didn't realize what

Kimberly:

strong vocal performers they really were.

Kimberly:

I just really never knew.

Kimberly:

And to hear them like that and to end with that heartfelt hug, you could

Kimberly:

tell there was just so much going on.

Kimberly:

I can only imagine the kind of courage and strength it took

Kimberly:

to do this tour without Fletch.

Kimberly:

Cause he was such an right, integral part of the group.

Kimberly:

I'm like, hats off to my boys.

Kimberly:

Yes.

Kimberly:

Your boys, they sound they really sounded amazing.

Tammy:

Absolutely.

Tammy:

And they have quite a following.

Tammy:

this is an underground, really popular band with their core fan base.

Tammy:

We're all a bit obsessive about this band.

Tammy:

It's what they, I don't know, inspire there, there's just something

Tammy:

about it, but, there's a lot.

Tammy:

There's a huge worldwide fan base, which is interesting cuz

Tammy:

they're not, like a top 40 or even just, I don't know, they're not.

Tammy:

A u2, like they're, a band that attracts all of the deep slash goth.

Tammy:

I don't consider myself goth, but certainly there a lot of

Tammy:

goth are attracted to them, and.

Tammy:

So of all of the misfits, it's the misfit people and Gen X people, the people

Tammy:

who feel like they've been, misplaced or outside the norm or, don't fit in.

Tammy:

Like all those kinds of themes all come together for these shows and it's great.

Tammy:

That's what makes it so great too, is you just look around there, you're just like,

Tammy:

yeah, these are all my outsiders people.

Tammy:

This is my.

Tammy:

Because, yeah, so there's just such a, um, and, you know, people from

Tammy:

all walks of life, but, one thing you have in common, if you love

Tammy:

Depeche Mode, you're an outsider.

Tammy:

And, um, that's what we all have in common and it's a great sense of community.

Tammy:

Well,

Kimberly:

and, and I think it's awesome that they, Played, had this tour

Kimberly:

with, new music and didn't necessarily go back to some of those old tunes

Kimberly:

because for a lot of bands, they maybe don't have the courage to do that.

Kimberly:

They're like, the fans are expecting, people are people,

Kimberly:

my God, we better play that.

Kimberly:

That's, or people will feel cheated or something.

Kimberly:

And I think it's great.

Kimberly:

It's like they're playing for their fans and they're playing for themselves.

Kimberly:

Right?

Tammy:

They are, they are a hundred percent, like they're, I don't

Tammy:

think they would put in anything that they didn't feel good about.

Tammy:

For this tour in particular, I don't know about other tours, but for this

Tammy:

tour, and I think I read something about that, like not everybody's gonna be

Tammy:

happy with the fan list or with the set list because there are some things that

Tammy:

people are probably gonna wanna hear that aren't on there, but we're just.

Tammy:

It's, it's not where we are.

Tammy:

So I respect

Kimberly:

that.

Kimberly:

Totally.

Kimberly:

I'm just so happy that you know it

Tammy:

in, I don't wanna go hear a shitty version of, one of my favorite songs cause

Tammy:

I don't feel like performing it anymore.

Tammy:

Just to please, this is great version.

Tammy:

the album version.

Kimberly:

Right.

Kimberly:

And I, and I think it's great because I think for, you know, you see the arc of

Kimberly:

some bands, they just, they get stuck playing those songs from 30 years ago,

Kimberly:

and the performers and the singers can no longer sing them the way they did.

Kimberly:

So, yeah.

Kimberly:

So it's kind of disappointing, And I was really impressed with hearing

Kimberly:

how great they sounded live because I know with some of that type of

Kimberly:

music, it sounds great in the studio, but it's really hard to, replicate

Kimberly:

in a live stadium setting like that.

Kimberly:

So I'm like, that's off to them cuz they sounded great.

Kimberly:

the music sounded great and their voices were just, Over the top.

Tammy:

There's one other, component of this band that's been really

Tammy:

important since the beginning, and that is the collaboration with, Anton

Tammy:

Corbin, who does all their imagery.

Tammy:

He's done all of their videos from the very beginning.

Tammy:

He does the backdrop of the, all of the video and imagery

Tammy:

for the show, and it's stunning.

Tammy:

And without him, he creates such.

Tammy:

What is it?

Tammy:

Such a vibe.

Tammy:

he's like the fifth member of the band because without him and that

Tammy:

imagery and how he is portraying the band, I don't think they

Tammy:

would be as popular with mm-hmm.

Tammy:

US outsiders.

Tammy:

I really don't.

Tammy:

He, there's something about how he's able to translate that and

Tammy:

they have never veered from.

Tammy:

They've smart with them the whole time.

Tammy:

Smart.

Tammy:

And if you look back on their eighties videos, never Let me Down.

Tammy:

Or Even Personal, Jesus, he did those.

Tammy:

Look at those.

Tammy:

They're stunning.

Tammy:

Yeah, they are.

Kimberly:

Even now, even you look at them now, even

Tammy:

now.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

still stunning.

Kimberly:

Ahead of the time, ahead of their time.

Tammy:

the fact that, what, 45, 40, I don't know how many years

Tammy:

we're still listening to that.

Tammy:

It's still relevant.

Tammy:

It's still, there's still amazing songs.

Tammy:

They still just blow away most other songs.

Tammy:

is just incredible.

Tammy:

Like, you can go back today and listen to those and just go and just be like moved

Kimberly:

by them.

Kimberly:

Absolutely.

Kimberly:

Absolutely.

Kimberly:

that's a, you know, know, the sign of some great music, some great artistry where.

Kimberly:

You can listen to their songs now and they still sound, fresh

Kimberly:

and they still pop, right?

Kimberly:

Because I'll be, you know, sometimes driving out on the road and I'll,

Kimberly:

catch one of those, eighties, eighties nineties stations and they'll, people

Kimberly:

are, people will pop out and like, Like still my song, you know, these still.

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

It still sounds great.

Kimberly:

I love that.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Yeah,

Kimberly:

absolutely.

Kimberly:

I'm so excited and so happy that you had that opportunity to go there.

Kimberly:

And, before we head out, I, I did want to, talk to you just about some of those,

Kimberly:

what do they call it, post-production blues, post show blues, where it's

Kimberly:

like the endorphins have worn off.

Kimberly:

And, so

Tammy:

tell us about that.

Tammy:

That's really interesting point.

Tammy:

I wanted to pull up an article, we'll link it down below.

Tammy:

it's from a therapy site, but it's, called Post Concert

Tammy:

Depression, and it's very real.

Tammy:

And I'll just read, post concert depression is a type of depression that

Tammy:

occurs after one attends a concert.

Tammy:

Causing them to feel sad, particularly after a show that was much anticipated.

Tammy:

The excitement and energy a person feels when looking forward to a

Tammy:

concert can make them feel more motivated, hopeful, and happier.

Tammy:

Additional thrilling aspects include travel, hotel

Tammy:

accommodations, or a new outfit.

Tammy:

A person may also experience some nostalgia and surrealness when seeing

Tammy:

a band performing live for sure.

Tammy:

returning to the real world post concert can feel like a culture shock,

Tammy:

similar to returning from a vacation or a memorable, fun wedding reception

Tammy:

that goes on to, describe it more.

Tammy:

But that's, that's exactly it.

Tammy:

I didn't, I did have.

Tammy:

I never thought about it in that way, but I remember the first time I saw Depeche

Tammy:

Mode in, which was, I think in 2006, time, 2005, 2006, whenever that was.

Tammy:

And I remember, oh my God, did I go through, I had no idea it was

Tammy:

gonna be such a emotional experie.

Tammy:

Such a spiritual experience, such a outta my body experience show.

Tammy:

And I came back I can't adjust.

Tammy:

I don't wanna be back in the real world like this feels awful.

Tammy:

It felt better at the sh I wanna feel like that.

Tammy:

and so that's when I started becoming obsessed with them and seeing

Tammy:

them, you know, multiple times.

Tammy:

But, you know, fast forward to now, I didn't have that level of depress.

Tammy:

But it did hit me.

Tammy:

It hit me on Monday, like I was still on a high on Sunday, and then

Tammy:

Monday it, like, you know, going back to work and wrecked a real life.

Tammy:

That's when I really started to crash and feels like a withdrawal almost.

Tammy:

and then I couldn't like, and then I got sick On top of it

Tammy:

and I couldn't really look.

Tammy:

For a while, for that first week, I couldn't look online at people

Tammy:

going to shows because I was just so bummed that it was over.

Tammy:

I couldn't, I just couldn't look at it.

Tammy:

but I can now, but that first week I was just like, I can't

Tammy:

hear what's going on in la.

Tammy:

I can't, I can't, you know, like that anticipation of going to the show

Tammy:

and just, and how great it was and how connecting it was and then you

Tammy:

go back to, yeah, just normal life and, so it's a very real thing for.

Tammy:

Um, not every show, not every concert I go to, but those ones that you really look

Tammy:

forward to or you really love the band and it's just, I've talked on the show

Tammy:

about other concerts that I've been to.

Tammy:

I had that experience seeing the fix a few years in 2019.

Tammy:

I had just a deeply spiritual experience seeing them at the show.

Tammy:

And boy did that take a while to get over that.

Tammy:

So I wonder if anybody else experiences that or if anybody else can relate.

Tammy:

And if you can, please comment below.

Tammy:

So I know that I'm not alone.

Tammy:

I must not be alone cuz someone wrote an article about it so, well

Tammy:

there's more posted down below.

Kimberly:

So there's Tammy in that, that one jar list, right?

Kimberly:

Yes.

Kimberly:

No, but I think you're onto something.

Kimberly:

I mean it's, it's kind of similar cause I do, know, the.

Kimberly:

Theatrical type, productions as well.

Kimberly:

It's like there's so much energy goes into it and it's I'm looking forward to it.

Kimberly:

Looking forward to it.

Kimberly:

Little tension.

Kimberly:

Oh my god, it gonna work out, huh.

Kimberly:

You know, and it's, you know, the energy's running high

Tammy:

and

Kimberly:

then it's over, then it's over.

Kimberly:

And you can't go back.

Tammy:

And you don't know when it's gonna happen again.

Tammy:

Or it's at the end of it.

Tammy:

and then you were like, you have to kind of go through a bit of a grieving pro if.

Tammy:

You know, like they mentioned the, show or a wedding or an event.

Tammy:

same thing.

Tammy:

there's a loss that occurs after it.

Tammy:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

And

Tammy:

also, and I don't, I'm not looking forward to that anymore.

Tammy:

Like, yeah.

Kimberly:

And also the, you know, the coming together of the

Kimberly:

people and you have to disperse and there's a lot that goes on.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

With that.

Kimberly:

And I think it's important to, to acknowledge, be so people don't

Kimberly:

feel like, oh, it's not just me.

Kimberly:

Oh, I'm crazy.

Kimberly:

It's no, you had this.

Kimberly:

First of all, this is the first, their first tour in, what, four

Kimberly:

years or something like that?

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Five years.

Kimberly:

So that, that element after the pandemic and then with Fletches.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

passing also in the mix.

Kimberly:

So it's very emotional.

Kimberly:

It's like a recipe for a lot of emotions to be flying around.

Kimberly:

That's for sure.

Tammy:

And actually, their shows are emotional anyway.

Tammy:

Mm-hmm.

Tammy:

They're always very emotional, like very spiritual on some.

Tammy:

Cosmic level, at least in my experience, and I'm sure many others too.

Tammy:

But yeah, the depth of emotion that you feel at the show and then the.

Tammy:

Uplifting, happiness and joy and spirituality, you know,

Tammy:

just being transported somewhere during the whole thing.

Tammy:

And then you go back to the, your real life, like, wait.

Kimberly:

And then on top of that, you're sick too, right?

Tammy:

I mean, yeah.

Tammy:

You know, it's, it's no wonder you hear of bands that.

Tammy:

Have trouble coming off the road.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

And it's probably similar to that.

Tammy:

You're on this high on stage and you're getting this energy, you're

Tammy:

exchange this exchange of energy with the crowd and you, and it's real.

Tammy:

And then they come off stage and then if they're touring, they go to another

Tammy:

city and they keep repeating and then, What do you do when you have to go home?

Tammy:

In fact, James Hetfield from Metallica talked about this and

Tammy:

said that some of his addiction that he was struggling with was that

Tammy:

transition to going home after tour.

Tammy:

That he just couldn't, he couldn't adjust.

Tammy:

What do you mean I have to take out the trash bin or what do I do now?

Tammy:

And.

Tammy:

I think that's true for a lot of our, that struggle is true for a lot of people.

Tammy:

Some people don't like to tour as much and wanna be home more, I

Tammy:

think, especially as they get older.

Tammy:

But, uh, I can imagine just as a fan, totally experiencing

Tammy:

that and having to go back.

Tammy:

What if it's every other night for a year and then it's over?

Tammy:

So I think they call that post tour depression.

Tammy:

I'm sure there's an article on that stuff, right?

Tammy:

I'm sure there's a couple articles.

Tammy:

Sure.

Tammy:

It's real.

Tammy:

I'm sure it's very.

Kimberly:

True.

Kimberly:

and for any, performers that wanna come on our show and talk about it, give us

Kimberly:

their firsthand experience with that.

Kimberly:

We welcome you, we, we would love to know more about it because, we as

Kimberly:

fans and as people that participate, we have our own range of feelings.

Kimberly:

But yeah, you, I can imagine what that would be like to, you know, you've been

Kimberly:

out on the road for a year and all of a sudden that it just stops and that whole.

Kimberly:

Community that you built is now dispersed.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

That whole community and then returning to, yeah, normal life's boring.

Kimberly:

Where it's I gotta take out the garbage and cook tonight.

Kimberly:

Wait, what?

Kimberly:

where's my tour?

Kimberly:

Or where's my stage?

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Where's shouting my name and where what happened to that?

Kimberly:

It's like, sure, here's the garbage and you know where it goes, dear.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Right, right.

Kimberly:

I'm, and I'm your number one fan, so I'm saying that with love.

Kimberly:

Right,

Tammy:

right.

Tammy:

Get to work, get your kid together and pitch in around the house.

Tammy:

You've been gone for a year.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

But that's, you know, not everyone can make those transitions.

Kimberly:

Some people love to be back at home and they love that.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

Seems like, you know, some type of balance is probably a good idea.

Tammy:

Probably,

Kimberly:

probably.

Kimberly:

Awesome.

Kimberly:

Well, I'm so glad you had a chance to make it to that concert.

Kimberly:

I'm sorry you got sick, but I'm so glad you're back at it.

Kimberly:

I was like, where's my girl, Tammy?

Tammy:

I know this would've gotten sooner had I not, been down with the

Tammy:

plague or whatever I have, but, but we wanted to get this out and just really.

Tammy:

Give a shout out to Depeche Mode and all the Depeche Mode fans.

Tammy:

I see you,

Kimberly:

we, we see you and hear you

Tammy:

like, yes, uh, uh, we're here with you and, please, please comment and

Tammy:

share and for other Depeche Mode fans as well, and would love to hear from you.

Kimberly:

Absolutely.

Kimberly:

And we hope that we'll have, Tammy back on specifically talking.

Kimberly:

The second, at least the second, concert you get a chance to

Kimberly:

go to, if not more, right?

Tammy:

Yeah, I do.

Tammy:

I have some con some more concerts, coming up, so there'll be more reports.

Tammy:

It'll be a good concert year.

Tammy:

Hopefully I won't get sick at the others.

Tammy:

Hopefully this is just the, maybe, hopefully I'm getting

Tammy:

this outta my system now and I'll be, my immunity will be good to.

Tammy:

Absolutely awesome.

Tammy:

But you know, it's kind of a real issue now with, we're still facing covid and

Tammy:

that kind of thing and it is a risk.

Tammy:

It's still a risk to go to these shows.

Tammy:

And this one was indoors and I knew it was a risk, it was just a

Tammy:

risk I was willing to take because I just had to see Depeche mode.

Kimberly:

and that's, that's completely understand.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

Got it.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

I would rethink other indoor shows.

Tammy:

me personally, now I'm like, And the next shows I have coming up are all outdoors.

Tammy:

Cool.

Kimberly:

Great.

Kimberly:

I'll be in the breeze with everybody else.

Kimberly:

Yeah, right.

Kimberly:

But it's, it's something to think about.

Kimberly:

It's like, and we've talked about this, before it's real, you know,

Kimberly:

these, our favorite groups that we came up with are getting older.

Kimberly:

They're not gonna be on tour forever.

Kimberly:

we hope they go on as long as they can, but that's reality.

Kimberly:

So it's like if you're a super fan, you wanna catch 'em when you can.

Kimberly:

That makes total sense, right?

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Yep.

Tammy:

Had to do it.

Kimberly:

Awesome.

Kimberly:

Well, that is our, uh, on the ground reporting of that, concert coverage.

Kimberly:

And we'll have some special footage also related to that concert.

Kimberly:

And, like we said, let us know how you're handling all this, business with touring.

Kimberly:

Have you been out there?

Kimberly:

What shows have you seen?

Kimberly:

Did you get sick too?

Kimberly:

we able to and what worked for you as far as your recovery,

Kimberly:

ginger tea, and chicken soup.

Kimberly:

Now we'd love to, hear, what other people's experiences are and we'll

Kimberly:

be back for a full episode of all the goings on, cause there's

Kimberly:

plenty happening right now, too.

Tammy:

Awesome.

Tammy:

Thanks everyone.

Tammy:

Thanks for

Kimberly:

watching.

Kimberly:

Thanks.

Kimberly:

Thanks for watching.

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