What happens when a former corporate leader and disabled combat vet sees small business owners struggling with overwhelm and lack of structure? They build a company that helps solopreneurs and entrepreneurs move beyond the “do it all myself” mindset. In this episode of the One Small Change Podcast, Yvonne McCoy sits down with Brandi Cox who shares her three-step method for scaling with ease: building systems, mastering delegation, and true outsourcing—strategies that free up your time to focus on your genius zone. Listen in for actionable insights on how to stop being your own VA and finally step into your true role as visionary.
Guest Bio:
Brandi Cox is a disabled veteran and entrepreneur who turned adversity into fuel for creating thriving businesses. She helps solopreneurs escape the tech and admin grind by teaching them how to “clone themselves” through smart systems and outsourcing. With a mix of grit, humor, and straight talk, she shows overwhelmed business owners how to step into their CEO role and scale with ease.
Chapters:
00:00 "Delegate to Maximize Focus"
05:58 "Realizing I'm the Problem"
08:16 "Ensuring Team Continuity"
11:34 "True Outsourcing vs. Delegation"
16:09 "Prioritize Your Unique Gifts"
18:16 "Caring, Preparation, and Connection"
21:44 "Embrace Change, Embrace Growth"
Quote from the Guest:
“You do what you do best, we'll do the rest.”
Link:
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Welcome to the One Small Change Podcast. I can't believe it's time again
Speaker:this week, and I am thrilled to embark on this journey of
Speaker:exploration and transformation with you. And I'm glad you're taking time to join
Speaker:me too, because I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring almost 30 years
Speaker:of entrepreneurial experience and a passion for discovering
Speaker:growth through the power of seemingly small change.
Speaker:And every week, I try to bring somebody interesting and new to talk to
Speaker:you so that you can learn from their experience. And
Speaker:this week, we are speaking with Brandi Cox.
Speaker:Brandi, thank you so much for being here. I'm so
Speaker:excited. So tell everybody what you do and what was
Speaker:it that made you decide that's why you were going to do
Speaker:it and be good at it? Well, thank you for having me.
Speaker:So I was a big corporate leader and a huge global
Speaker:conglomerate, and I actually became disabled.
Speaker:So I'm a disabled combat vet. And when
Speaker:I became disabled, I started, like, trying to figure out what
Speaker:to do with myself because couldn't just sit around watching TV all the time.
Speaker:So I started looking at entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, coaches,
Speaker:business owners, small business owners. And I quickly
Speaker:realized that there's absolutely no support
Speaker:to. No structural support, softwares,
Speaker:processes, anything for small businesses.
Speaker:And so what we are done. What we have done is we have tried to
Speaker:wing it. And I was like, hey, I used to
Speaker:do this for huge global conglomerates. Why don't I give you guys my
Speaker:expertise and my processes and the things that I know how to do?
Speaker:And so that's where it began. So
Speaker:when you were, what. What would you say is the
Speaker:biggest thing that entrepreneurs, especially solopreneurs, if
Speaker:they're coming out of corporate, have to deal with?
Speaker:They. When you come from corporate, you have a
Speaker:lot of structure. There's HR, there's management,
Speaker:there's processes. There's usually, like, somebody in charge
Speaker:of office supplies, you know, whatever. Everybody's in charge
Speaker:of everything. And so what solopreneurs do is
Speaker:they look at it and they go, I now have to do all of this.
Speaker:And that's the number one reason why solopreneurs fail.
Speaker:So. So, okay.
Speaker:You're right. I mean, you know, I mean, it's like, wait,
Speaker:I thought I had somebody to do this, and I don't, and that would be
Speaker:me. Right? And so one of the things you say is
Speaker:you have three steps solopreneurs can use to scale with
Speaker:ease. So do you want to talk about those? And. And I have to tell
Speaker:you, the word clone kind of puts my teeth on
Speaker:edge a little bit. But I want to hear your explanation
Speaker:first. Well, the idea of the talk of clone yourself
Speaker:was because we all sometimes wish, oh my gosh, I wish there was
Speaker:two of me, right? I just, I wish I had more hands.
Speaker:And so what I do is I sit down with the person and
Speaker:I go, okay, what do you wish your day looked like? What are you
Speaker:stuck doing? So like, what is it you're stuck in the middle of? You're
Speaker:mired in the mud of, you know, can't see the forest for the trees.
Speaker:And then let's get all of that off your plate. So keep you focused on
Speaker:what you do best. So my tagline for 10 plus years has been you
Speaker:do what you do best, we'll do the rest. And
Speaker:so the number one thing we do is figure out what are you doing that's
Speaker:not your revenue generating activity, that's not your genius zone.
Speaker:Let's put that on the hands of somebody else, whether it's a
Speaker:software, whether it's a process, delegating,
Speaker:outsourcing, whatever that looks like and
Speaker:get that off your plate so you can stay focused on what you do. Because
Speaker:when you step away from that revenue generating activity, you are losing
Speaker:money. There are no big businesses, real
Speaker:businesses, we sometimes like to think of them as, that are doing their own
Speaker:stuff. Dell doesn't do their own communication and
Speaker:customer support and tech support. Microsoft doesn't do their own
Speaker:tech support and customer support. Like these
Speaker:companies don't do it themselves. Why are we doing it ourselves? And the
Speaker:only reason why is because we don't know any better. We don't, we haven't been
Speaker:taught any better. So we think we have to do it all ourselves.
Speaker:And I'm like, there's a million different ways to get this done. We don't have
Speaker:to do it all ourselves. There's lots of ways we can use
Speaker:software to automate things or delegate
Speaker:part time project base or just outsource to another company altogether.
Speaker:Well, The reason, The reason that I said when I, when you say clone yourself,
Speaker:it makes me, makes my kids go this way is
Speaker:because I, I used to coach women executives of non
Speaker:profits and they would say to me, I just need someone just like
Speaker:me. And I wanted to say, you're a mess.
Speaker:You don't need another mess. You need somebody that's going to take up the
Speaker:stuff that you're not good at. So
Speaker:you don't want to clone. You want some people with diverse skills.
Speaker:But I think One of the things that I find.
Speaker:With solopreneurs is they
Speaker:don't realize that it's a team
Speaker:effort. If you're subcontracting to somebody,
Speaker:if you're using a system, you're kind of like that.
Speaker:That's part of your team. Right. And
Speaker:when your team is working well, good things are going to
Speaker:continue to happen on a consistent basis. And I
Speaker:actually experienced this the other day when
Speaker:this message just really hit me in the face really hard.
Speaker:I. I did a summit, and in my brain, I thought, well, I'm doing the
Speaker:summit. I'm not going to do my monthly workshop. But I didn't tell anybody
Speaker:that, Right. And so, you know, the first
Speaker:day I gave out the link with the date in it for
Speaker:the next month, and people went, this says August.
Speaker:Right. And the next day I had an affiliate say, I'm so
Speaker:excited to promote your workshop this week. And at the end of the second
Speaker:day, I had over 20 people registered. And it was like, oh,
Speaker:things are working really well. I'm the problem,
Speaker:right? Because I'm thinking that I'm still, you know, doing my own thing.
Speaker:So when you said that there are three steps that
Speaker:solopreneurs can take, what do you want to talk to us about those?
Speaker:So one of the first things that we do, like I said,
Speaker:is we sit down and we figure out what those systems need to look like,
Speaker:Whether that's a process or software, what that needs to
Speaker:look like to get it off your plate so we can consolidate all of that
Speaker:into, you know, a plan. So it's between
Speaker:building systems, delegating and outsourcing,
Speaker:getting all of those things off your plate. So
Speaker:that is so important because. If you are
Speaker:carrying everything around in your own head. Yep. You don't
Speaker:really have a business. I mean, you can't. Nobody
Speaker:can replicate what's in your head unless you put it somewhere, someplace
Speaker:else. And I think. I think, whoops.
Speaker:I think what people don't realize all the time is that.
Speaker:Having a process and a system
Speaker:make sure that you have consistent quality and.
Speaker:And believe it or not, people do leave, leave their jobs and stuff
Speaker:like that. So if you've got somebody who. Who has put together a system for
Speaker:you and not put it on paper, they're walking out the door with
Speaker:your business. They are. We see that happen
Speaker:every day. Somebody, you know, a solopreneur, will hire a
Speaker:VA and this VA is in charge of all of the things,
Speaker:and they have no idea. They just tell this va, go do this. And then
Speaker:that VA gets a better job or has to quit their
Speaker:job for some reason or, you know, what have you.
Speaker:And then all of a sudden they have no idea how their business runs anymore
Speaker:because that VA was handling everything. Yeah. And like, that's one of
Speaker:the first things that we do is we make that continuity book. We make that
Speaker:the standard operating procedures so that anybody
Speaker:can hop in and work on something. They have all of the step
Speaker:by step instructions, whether it's screenshots or software or whatever we need to
Speaker:do to make sure that that happens, but they need to
Speaker:have, so that anybody can just pop in, do that job
Speaker:and pop out. And so like when I'm working
Speaker:with my team and my staff and we're, because we're an
Speaker:outsourced company, we have a staffing agency and everything. And so when
Speaker:we're working with a client, that's one of the first things that I do. And
Speaker:I make sure that, yes, this might be your, you
Speaker:know, your head, part of my team that you're working with, but any of
Speaker:my team can pop in and do that job. If that person's out sick, if
Speaker:that person has to quit for any reason, I
Speaker:need to be able to make sure that everything's got continuity
Speaker:because otherwise then I'll be the problem with your business.
Speaker:Yeah. So, okay, so systems and processes. What's the
Speaker:next thing, the delegation and how that
Speaker:looks and what that looks like? Not necessarily like,
Speaker:oh, I'm just going to put this on their plate. Delegation has a whole.
Speaker:Set of rules to it. You can't just go here, do this, and then
Speaker:micromanage them or, you know,
Speaker:get upset because it's not done right because they don't have the right instructions. There's
Speaker:a, there's an actual process to delegation. And so working with the
Speaker:business owner to make sure that they're completely aware
Speaker:of what delegation looks like, how that works, what's the best
Speaker:process, what is the method to
Speaker:communicate? And so that's, you know,
Speaker:it's really hard to get something out of your head and into the head of
Speaker:somebody else if you don't know how to do that. So that's one of
Speaker:the things we work with people about. So this is like one of my
Speaker:favorite things. And so just very
Speaker:briefly, I just want to add that when you are working
Speaker:with a subcontractor, you are delegating. Right.
Speaker:And so you have to be really clear
Speaker:about what it is that you want. And, and I always say to people, you
Speaker:know, typically they say, delegate, automate, eliminate.
Speaker:I, I think you should go about it the absolute Opposite direction.
Speaker:Because otherwise you were just taking the crap on the top of your
Speaker:pile and saying to somebody, do it. And, and, and it goes
Speaker:back to the process. Because if somebody doesn't give you the results you
Speaker:want before you go, what's wrong with them? You go,
Speaker:you need to go, was there a process? Did they know the process?
Speaker:Did they follow the process? Does the process need to be changed,
Speaker:you know, and updated? Then you go to them, right?
Speaker:Because if you tell them, if you don't give them enough
Speaker:instruction or there's not enough resources for them to do the
Speaker:job correctly, it's not their fault. Right?
Speaker:And, and I look at delegation, I say to people, you know, you think of
Speaker:delegation as just giving people stuff to do. I think of delegation as
Speaker:training. You're training people to take on an important part
Speaker:of your business. Okay, so I got that off my chest. So
Speaker:what's the third thing? Well, the third thing
Speaker:is we also talk to people about true outsourcing,
Speaker:which is not just delegating to internal staff
Speaker:and stuff like that, but outsourcing to a whole team of experts where
Speaker:this is their genius zone, this is their specialty. So
Speaker:they're going to be able to give you advice instead of you pushing
Speaker:this is the way it's done. They can actually say, hey, this
Speaker:is a better way because that's their expertise,
Speaker:that's their revenue generating activity, their genius.
Speaker:And so that's what people don't realize is like you can just assign something to
Speaker:a va and that's different from outsourcing to a company that's going
Speaker:to take that task over completely. And so
Speaker:that's, there's a very clear distinction there. And a lot of people
Speaker:kind of melt, know, merge them and meld them. And I'm
Speaker:like, when you are treating
Speaker:somebody like, you know, quote, unquote, staff, you
Speaker:treat them differently than you would a expert consultant.
Speaker:And so you as a business strategist, you know that when you come in
Speaker:and you're helping somebody, you have, this is a
Speaker:recommended method, a best practice. And they sometimes
Speaker:have their own understandings of how the world works. And
Speaker:you're like, no, really, this is the better way. And so
Speaker:that's a completely different process. And so that's where we like to say,
Speaker:okay, depending on what your needs are, you might delegate, you
Speaker:might outsource or you might automate. You know, it depends
Speaker:on what you need. And so that's, that's something
Speaker:where our expertise is just
Speaker:like yours is to help them, guide them to the best
Speaker:thing that's going to work best for them. And I. I think the other
Speaker:part to this that makes life even more crazy is
Speaker:nothing is standing still. No. You know, and
Speaker:so a solution that worked maybe a year and a half ago
Speaker:maybe doesn't work as well now or won't get to where you're
Speaker:going. And I think.
Speaker:This is just. You know, again, I've had really good conversations
Speaker:with people today. They fit all my. All my hot buttons. But I
Speaker:don't know why people are so resistant to
Speaker:listening to other people's ideas. You know, and
Speaker:so when I teach delegation, I say, this is what I was.
Speaker:This. First, I start with what. What the end result is. This is what I'm
Speaker:trying to accomplish, and this is how I would do
Speaker:it. And then I say, do you have any better ideas? Or what
Speaker:are your thoughts? Or how would you do it? Right.
Speaker:Because sometimes their idea is so much
Speaker:better than mine based on their expertise, whether it
Speaker:is. You know, just. How do we put something simple together? I mean,
Speaker:I'll never forget when I was working in a tax office,
Speaker:and it was like we. We were, like, really short on space, and.
Speaker:And, you know, it was like, all these people are like, where are we gonna
Speaker:put this? You know, I mean, it was like this big thing, and the receptionist
Speaker:came in and said, you could put it behind this door.
Speaker:And we're like, no. And she's like, yeah. And I'm like,
Speaker:this shelf would not fit. There she goes, yeah, I measured it. It would.
Speaker:Perfect solution in less than five minutes. And
Speaker:all of these people with their brain cells are trying to figure it out. I
Speaker:mean, I always say One of the best things about doing exit interviews
Speaker:or when new people come to work for you, even though you think that
Speaker:the question is silly, you need to take time and listen to
Speaker:it, because there's something that triggered it. And if you get the same question
Speaker:every single time from new people, there's something you're not training
Speaker:on or not telling them. I mean, it's a huge sense
Speaker:of information, and I think we get. You know, it's like, I'm
Speaker:the boss for the first time. I. You know, whatever it is.
Speaker:Okay, so those are three things. That's fantastic.
Speaker:You said you brought a gift. I did.
Speaker:So I. It's like Christmas. Yay.
Speaker:I actually have a free download of my chapter
Speaker:in Wired to Win book, and
Speaker:so I am giving that out to everybody who wants
Speaker:the free. My free chapter on how to, you know, go from
Speaker:vision, stop being the VA and start being the visionary, and
Speaker:how to scale. This is something that I really want to share on The Small
Speaker:Change Podcast. So fantastic. Give that away to
Speaker:everybody. I'm so excited about that because I think, I
Speaker:think, you know, when, when I first started coaching, one of the
Speaker:things I said was, do you find that
Speaker:at the, that you've been busy all day long, and at the end of the
Speaker:day, all the projects that only you can do are still sitting on your desk,
Speaker:then you need to do something, you know, then you need to change that, because
Speaker:you're not putting your gifts where they're supposed to be.
Speaker:And so I think that that is a great gift for anybody
Speaker:who's listening to this. And I want to make sure you guys, you know,
Speaker:you're going to find the link in the, in the chat,
Speaker:in the, in the notes, and so you definitely need to do
Speaker:that. Okay, so, all right, I'm going to ask you, before we run out of
Speaker:time, when was the last time you did something new for
Speaker:the first time? Well, doing
Speaker:podcasts. So I, I, this
Speaker:isn't really where I feel the most comfortable. And so
Speaker:I am autistic, and I struggle with communication
Speaker:sometimes, and because I think and talk like a
Speaker:computer. And so I was like, okay, I need to start working on
Speaker:this, because this is something that's going to help move my business forward. So I
Speaker:needed to get out here and start doing it. And
Speaker:action makes perfect. So the
Speaker:more that I come out and the more that I talk, the more confident I
Speaker:feel, the more clear I am, and the more
Speaker:I feel like it's not as scary because I'm out here doing
Speaker:it. And what's the worst that can happen? What's the worst that could happen? They
Speaker:can't take away my birthday. So I was like, you know what
Speaker:the worst that happens is? I feel like a fool. And you know
Speaker:what the best thing that could happen is? It moves my business forward. So, so
Speaker:I want to say congratulations. And one of the things I say all the time
Speaker:is. You need to feel
Speaker:uncomfortable. Right? And the other thing that,
Speaker:that, you know, I find is if I don't have some
Speaker:flutters in my stomach about something I'm going to do,
Speaker:it means I don't care. Right? You know, because
Speaker:it's like, if I care about it, it's like, I, you know, did I do
Speaker:what? You know, am I prepared? Am I going to be able to really connect
Speaker:with the audience? Am I going to be able to do this? If I'm talking
Speaker:to a client, it's like, okay, let me see. I know they're resisting
Speaker:this. How do I help them work through it or whatever. And I always
Speaker:had that, like, you know, if I'm like,
Speaker:you know, I'll just wing it. It's like, no big deal. It's like, that's the
Speaker:signal to my brain, I don't care. You
Speaker:know, and it's like, why do I not care? And if I don't care, is
Speaker:this something that's really going to move my business? Am I really doing this for
Speaker:the right reason? Maybe I should step aside on this.
Speaker:So, first of all, I want to tell you I think that it's wonderful that
Speaker:you're feeling uncomfortable and you're doing it, and you did it wonderfully.
Speaker:The other thing I would say that I can't help. This is the second
Speaker:time this has happened in, like, three days. Is
Speaker:turning. Talking about learning styles. And I think that
Speaker:entrepreneurs need to know a little bit about
Speaker:learning styles because we don't all learn the same way.
Speaker:And I am a highly visual person.
Speaker:I mean, I'm, I, I'm. I had trouble
Speaker:reading as a kid, and. I could almost
Speaker:memorize the books. I mean, I don't have a photographic memory or anything like that,
Speaker:but when I need to find information, I can close my eyes and
Speaker:go, where did I see that? You know, my husband is
Speaker:highly auditory. I mean, it is.
Speaker:It is like ships moving in the night. I mean, I'll say to. If he
Speaker:loses something, I'll go, where was the last place you saw it? And he just,
Speaker:like, looks at me like, huh. But if I say him, what were you listening
Speaker:to on the, you know, were you on your AirPods? Were you on your favorite
Speaker:speakers? Were you. You know, then he gets it. You know,
Speaker:it is so. It is so weird. And so part of that delegation
Speaker:process, or if in terms you're doing sales, it
Speaker:is really important that you understand what your style is,
Speaker:because that's your natural go to. But be able
Speaker:to expand that for other people, you know, whether it's giving a
Speaker:different kind of example or whatever to help
Speaker:your client or your employee or your, you know, to get what it
Speaker:is that you're doing. So this has been my. This has been my week of
Speaker:people with all kinds of learning kinds of things, myself included.
Speaker:Okay, so before we run out of time, I. I got to do
Speaker:the commercial. So I want to make sure
Speaker:that everybody takes some time to subscribe and share and
Speaker:engage on social media with the Podcast. And the reason
Speaker:I'm doing it is because I'm trying to, you know, make our community even
Speaker:more vibrant and fuel your quest for growth and impact. And I
Speaker:do that by trying to bring as many different kinds of people as I can
Speaker:with their stories and the things that they can do to help you
Speaker:so that you will be able to grow your business, pick and choose, and
Speaker:have experiences that you might not otherwise have. So I
Speaker:hope you'll continue to follow me and listen to The One Small Change
Speaker:Podcast. And if you haven't done it yet, you should listen to the first episode
Speaker:or to one of the quarter clarity check-in calls
Speaker:that I do where I talk about what's happening in the quarter and
Speaker:what trends are coming up.
Speaker:Stop being your own VA and get back to being your own
Speaker:visionary. I like it. I like it a lot.
Speaker:All right, guys, we've run out of time. We could talk a lot
Speaker:more about some of my favorite topics. But I want you to
Speaker:remember, change can be simple, but it's not always easy. And it
Speaker:takes courage, resilience, and a willingness to step out of your comfort
Speaker:zone. And like we said, if you really care, you're gonna, you know, feel a
Speaker:little butterflies in your stomach. And, you know, what I know
Speaker:is if you are not feeling uncomfortable, you're not
Speaker:growing. If you're not growing, you're actually stagnating because
Speaker:the world is moving forward with or without you. So I hope
Speaker:you will continue to join me for The One Small Change Podcast, and together
Speaker:we can build big visions and innovative possibilities. Until
Speaker:then, stay very curious.
Speaker:Brandi, thank you so much for giving us your thoughts and stuff.
Speaker:Oh, so happy to be here. Bye.