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Stop Being Your Own VA and Become the Visionary
Episode 7711th December 2025 • The One Small Change Podcast • Yvonne McCoy
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What happens when a former corporate leader and disabled combat vet sees small business owners struggling with overwhelm and lack of structure? They build a company that helps solopreneurs and entrepreneurs move beyond the “do it all myself” mindset. In this episode of the One Small Change Podcast, Yvonne McCoy sits down with Brandi Cox who shares her three-step method for scaling with ease: building systems, mastering delegation, and true outsourcing—strategies that free up your time to focus on your genius zone. Listen in for actionable insights on how to stop being your own VA and finally step into your true role as visionary.

Guest Bio:

Brandi Cox is a disabled veteran and entrepreneur who turned adversity into fuel for creating thriving businesses. She helps solopreneurs escape the tech and admin grind by teaching them how to “clone themselves” through smart systems and outsourcing. With a mix of grit, humor, and straight talk, she shows overwhelmed business owners how to step into their CEO role and scale with ease.

Chapters:

00:00 "Delegate to Maximize Focus"

05:58 "Realizing I'm the Problem"

08:16 "Ensuring Team Continuity"

11:34 "True Outsourcing vs. Delegation"

16:09 "Prioritize Your Unique Gifts"

18:16 "Caring, Preparation, and Connection"

21:44 "Embrace Change, Embrace Growth"


Quote from the Guest:

“You do what you do best, we'll do the rest.” 


Link:

Download for ebook "You're the Visionary, Not the VA"

https://questforclients.com/wired-to-win-chapter

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Welcome to the One Small Change Podcast. I can't believe it's time again

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this week, and I am thrilled to embark on this journey of

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exploration and transformation with you. And I'm glad you're taking time to join

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me too, because I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring almost 30 years

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of entrepreneurial experience and a passion for discovering

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growth through the power of seemingly small change.

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And every week, I try to bring somebody interesting and new to talk to

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you so that you can learn from their experience. And

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this week, we are speaking with Brandi Cox.

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Brandi, thank you so much for being here. I'm so

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excited. So tell everybody what you do and what was

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it that made you decide that's why you were going to do

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it and be good at it? Well, thank you for having me.

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So I was a big corporate leader and a huge global

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conglomerate, and I actually became disabled.

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So I'm a disabled combat vet. And when

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I became disabled, I started, like, trying to figure out what

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to do with myself because couldn't just sit around watching TV all the time.

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So I started looking at entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, coaches,

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business owners, small business owners. And I quickly

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realized that there's absolutely no support

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to. No structural support, softwares,

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processes, anything for small businesses.

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And so what we are done. What we have done is we have tried to

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wing it. And I was like, hey, I used to

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do this for huge global conglomerates. Why don't I give you guys my

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expertise and my processes and the things that I know how to do?

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And so that's where it began. So

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when you were, what. What would you say is the

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biggest thing that entrepreneurs, especially solopreneurs, if

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they're coming out of corporate, have to deal with?

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They. When you come from corporate, you have a

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lot of structure. There's HR, there's management,

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there's processes. There's usually, like, somebody in charge

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of office supplies, you know, whatever. Everybody's in charge

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of everything. And so what solopreneurs do is

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they look at it and they go, I now have to do all of this.

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And that's the number one reason why solopreneurs fail.

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So. So, okay.

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You're right. I mean, you know, I mean, it's like, wait,

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I thought I had somebody to do this, and I don't, and that would be

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me. Right? And so one of the things you say is

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you have three steps solopreneurs can use to scale with

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ease. So do you want to talk about those? And. And I have to tell

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you, the word clone kind of puts my teeth on

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edge a little bit. But I want to hear your explanation

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first. Well, the idea of the talk of clone yourself

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was because we all sometimes wish, oh my gosh, I wish there was

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two of me, right? I just, I wish I had more hands.

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And so what I do is I sit down with the person and

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I go, okay, what do you wish your day looked like? What are you

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stuck doing? So like, what is it you're stuck in the middle of? You're

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mired in the mud of, you know, can't see the forest for the trees.

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And then let's get all of that off your plate. So keep you focused on

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what you do best. So my tagline for 10 plus years has been you

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do what you do best, we'll do the rest. And

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so the number one thing we do is figure out what are you doing that's

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not your revenue generating activity, that's not your genius zone.

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Let's put that on the hands of somebody else, whether it's a

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software, whether it's a process, delegating,

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outsourcing, whatever that looks like and

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get that off your plate so you can stay focused on what you do. Because

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when you step away from that revenue generating activity, you are losing

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money. There are no big businesses, real

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businesses, we sometimes like to think of them as, that are doing their own

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stuff. Dell doesn't do their own communication and

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customer support and tech support. Microsoft doesn't do their own

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tech support and customer support. Like these

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companies don't do it themselves. Why are we doing it ourselves? And the

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only reason why is because we don't know any better. We don't, we haven't been

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taught any better. So we think we have to do it all ourselves.

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And I'm like, there's a million different ways to get this done. We don't have

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to do it all ourselves. There's lots of ways we can use

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software to automate things or delegate

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part time project base or just outsource to another company altogether.

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Well, The reason, The reason that I said when I, when you say clone yourself,

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it makes me, makes my kids go this way is

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because I, I used to coach women executives of non

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profits and they would say to me, I just need someone just like

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me. And I wanted to say, you're a mess.

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You don't need another mess. You need somebody that's going to take up the

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stuff that you're not good at. So

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you don't want to clone. You want some people with diverse skills.

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But I think One of the things that I find.

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With solopreneurs is they

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don't realize that it's a team

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effort. If you're subcontracting to somebody,

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if you're using a system, you're kind of like that.

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That's part of your team. Right. And

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when your team is working well, good things are going to

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continue to happen on a consistent basis. And I

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actually experienced this the other day when

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this message just really hit me in the face really hard.

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I. I did a summit, and in my brain, I thought, well, I'm doing the

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summit. I'm not going to do my monthly workshop. But I didn't tell anybody

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that, Right. And so, you know, the first

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day I gave out the link with the date in it for

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the next month, and people went, this says August.

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Right. And the next day I had an affiliate say, I'm so

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excited to promote your workshop this week. And at the end of the second

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day, I had over 20 people registered. And it was like, oh,

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things are working really well. I'm the problem,

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right? Because I'm thinking that I'm still, you know, doing my own thing.

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So when you said that there are three steps that

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solopreneurs can take, what do you want to talk to us about those?

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So one of the first things that we do, like I said,

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is we sit down and we figure out what those systems need to look like,

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Whether that's a process or software, what that needs to

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look like to get it off your plate so we can consolidate all of that

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into, you know, a plan. So it's between

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building systems, delegating and outsourcing,

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getting all of those things off your plate. So

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that is so important because. If you are

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carrying everything around in your own head. Yep. You don't

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really have a business. I mean, you can't. Nobody

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can replicate what's in your head unless you put it somewhere, someplace

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else. And I think. I think, whoops.

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I think what people don't realize all the time is that.

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Having a process and a system

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make sure that you have consistent quality and.

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And believe it or not, people do leave, leave their jobs and stuff

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like that. So if you've got somebody who. Who has put together a system for

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you and not put it on paper, they're walking out the door with

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your business. They are. We see that happen

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every day. Somebody, you know, a solopreneur, will hire a

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VA and this VA is in charge of all of the things,

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and they have no idea. They just tell this va, go do this. And then

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that VA gets a better job or has to quit their

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job for some reason or, you know, what have you.

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And then all of a sudden they have no idea how their business runs anymore

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because that VA was handling everything. Yeah. And like, that's one of

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the first things that we do is we make that continuity book. We make that

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the standard operating procedures so that anybody

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can hop in and work on something. They have all of the step

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by step instructions, whether it's screenshots or software or whatever we need to

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do to make sure that that happens, but they need to

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have, so that anybody can just pop in, do that job

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and pop out. And so like when I'm working

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with my team and my staff and we're, because we're an

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outsourced company, we have a staffing agency and everything. And so when

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we're working with a client, that's one of the first things that I do. And

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I make sure that, yes, this might be your, you

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know, your head, part of my team that you're working with, but any of

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my team can pop in and do that job. If that person's out sick, if

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that person has to quit for any reason, I

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need to be able to make sure that everything's got continuity

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because otherwise then I'll be the problem with your business.

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Yeah. So, okay, so systems and processes. What's the

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next thing, the delegation and how that

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looks and what that looks like? Not necessarily like,

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oh, I'm just going to put this on their plate. Delegation has a whole.

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Set of rules to it. You can't just go here, do this, and then

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micromanage them or, you know,

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get upset because it's not done right because they don't have the right instructions. There's

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a, there's an actual process to delegation. And so working with the

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business owner to make sure that they're completely aware

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of what delegation looks like, how that works, what's the best

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process, what is the method to

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communicate? And so that's, you know,

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it's really hard to get something out of your head and into the head of

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somebody else if you don't know how to do that. So that's one of

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the things we work with people about. So this is like one of my

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favorite things. And so just very

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briefly, I just want to add that when you are working

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with a subcontractor, you are delegating. Right.

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And so you have to be really clear

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about what it is that you want. And, and I always say to people, you

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know, typically they say, delegate, automate, eliminate.

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I, I think you should go about it the absolute Opposite direction.

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Because otherwise you were just taking the crap on the top of your

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pile and saying to somebody, do it. And, and, and it goes

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back to the process. Because if somebody doesn't give you the results you

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want before you go, what's wrong with them? You go,

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you need to go, was there a process? Did they know the process?

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Did they follow the process? Does the process need to be changed,

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you know, and updated? Then you go to them, right?

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Because if you tell them, if you don't give them enough

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instruction or there's not enough resources for them to do the

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job correctly, it's not their fault. Right?

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And, and I look at delegation, I say to people, you know, you think of

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delegation as just giving people stuff to do. I think of delegation as

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training. You're training people to take on an important part

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of your business. Okay, so I got that off my chest. So

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what's the third thing? Well, the third thing

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is we also talk to people about true outsourcing,

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which is not just delegating to internal staff

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and stuff like that, but outsourcing to a whole team of experts where

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this is their genius zone, this is their specialty. So

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they're going to be able to give you advice instead of you pushing

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this is the way it's done. They can actually say, hey, this

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is a better way because that's their expertise,

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that's their revenue generating activity, their genius.

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And so that's what people don't realize is like you can just assign something to

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a va and that's different from outsourcing to a company that's going

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to take that task over completely. And so

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that's, there's a very clear distinction there. And a lot of people

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kind of melt, know, merge them and meld them. And I'm

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like, when you are treating

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somebody like, you know, quote, unquote, staff, you

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treat them differently than you would a expert consultant.

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And so you as a business strategist, you know that when you come in

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and you're helping somebody, you have, this is a

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recommended method, a best practice. And they sometimes

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have their own understandings of how the world works. And

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you're like, no, really, this is the better way. And so

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that's a completely different process. And so that's where we like to say,

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okay, depending on what your needs are, you might delegate, you

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might outsource or you might automate. You know, it depends

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on what you need. And so that's, that's something

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where our expertise is just

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like yours is to help them, guide them to the best

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thing that's going to work best for them. And I. I think the other

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part to this that makes life even more crazy is

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nothing is standing still. No. You know, and

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so a solution that worked maybe a year and a half ago

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maybe doesn't work as well now or won't get to where you're

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going. And I think.

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This is just. You know, again, I've had really good conversations

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with people today. They fit all my. All my hot buttons. But I

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don't know why people are so resistant to

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listening to other people's ideas. You know, and

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so when I teach delegation, I say, this is what I was.

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This. First, I start with what. What the end result is. This is what I'm

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trying to accomplish, and this is how I would do

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it. And then I say, do you have any better ideas? Or what

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are your thoughts? Or how would you do it? Right.

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Because sometimes their idea is so much

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better than mine based on their expertise, whether it

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is. You know, just. How do we put something simple together? I mean,

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I'll never forget when I was working in a tax office,

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and it was like we. We were, like, really short on space, and.

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And, you know, it was like, all these people are like, where are we gonna

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put this? You know, I mean, it was like this big thing, and the receptionist

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came in and said, you could put it behind this door.

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And we're like, no. And she's like, yeah. And I'm like,

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this shelf would not fit. There she goes, yeah, I measured it. It would.

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Perfect solution in less than five minutes. And

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all of these people with their brain cells are trying to figure it out. I

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mean, I always say One of the best things about doing exit interviews

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or when new people come to work for you, even though you think that

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the question is silly, you need to take time and listen to

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it, because there's something that triggered it. And if you get the same question

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every single time from new people, there's something you're not training

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on or not telling them. I mean, it's a huge sense

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of information, and I think we get. You know, it's like, I'm

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the boss for the first time. I. You know, whatever it is.

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Okay, so those are three things. That's fantastic.

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You said you brought a gift. I did.

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So I. It's like Christmas. Yay.

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I actually have a free download of my chapter

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in Wired to Win book, and

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so I am giving that out to everybody who wants

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the free. My free chapter on how to, you know, go from

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vision, stop being the VA and start being the visionary, and

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how to scale. This is something that I really want to share on The Small

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Change Podcast. So fantastic. Give that away to

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everybody. I'm so excited about that because I think, I

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think, you know, when, when I first started coaching, one of the

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things I said was, do you find that

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at the, that you've been busy all day long, and at the end of the

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day, all the projects that only you can do are still sitting on your desk,

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then you need to do something, you know, then you need to change that, because

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you're not putting your gifts where they're supposed to be.

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And so I think that that is a great gift for anybody

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who's listening to this. And I want to make sure you guys, you know,

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you're going to find the link in the, in the chat,

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in the, in the notes, and so you definitely need to do

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that. Okay, so, all right, I'm going to ask you, before we run out of

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time, when was the last time you did something new for

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the first time? Well, doing

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podcasts. So I, I, this

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isn't really where I feel the most comfortable. And so

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I am autistic, and I struggle with communication

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sometimes, and because I think and talk like a

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computer. And so I was like, okay, I need to start working on

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this, because this is something that's going to help move my business forward. So I

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needed to get out here and start doing it. And

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action makes perfect. So the

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more that I come out and the more that I talk, the more confident I

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feel, the more clear I am, and the more

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I feel like it's not as scary because I'm out here doing

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it. And what's the worst that can happen? What's the worst that could happen? They

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can't take away my birthday. So I was like, you know what

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the worst that happens is? I feel like a fool. And you know

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what the best thing that could happen is? It moves my business forward. So, so

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I want to say congratulations. And one of the things I say all the time

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is. You need to feel

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uncomfortable. Right? And the other thing that,

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that, you know, I find is if I don't have some

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flutters in my stomach about something I'm going to do,

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it means I don't care. Right? You know, because

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it's like, if I care about it, it's like, I, you know, did I do

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what? You know, am I prepared? Am I going to be able to really connect

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with the audience? Am I going to be able to do this? If I'm talking

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to a client, it's like, okay, let me see. I know they're resisting

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this. How do I help them work through it or whatever. And I always

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had that, like, you know, if I'm like,

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you know, I'll just wing it. It's like, no big deal. It's like, that's the

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signal to my brain, I don't care. You

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know, and it's like, why do I not care? And if I don't care, is

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this something that's really going to move my business? Am I really doing this for

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the right reason? Maybe I should step aside on this.

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So, first of all, I want to tell you I think that it's wonderful that

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you're feeling uncomfortable and you're doing it, and you did it wonderfully.

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The other thing I would say that I can't help. This is the second

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time this has happened in, like, three days. Is

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turning. Talking about learning styles. And I think that

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entrepreneurs need to know a little bit about

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learning styles because we don't all learn the same way.

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And I am a highly visual person.

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I mean, I'm, I, I'm. I had trouble

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reading as a kid, and. I could almost

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memorize the books. I mean, I don't have a photographic memory or anything like that,

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but when I need to find information, I can close my eyes and

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go, where did I see that? You know, my husband is

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highly auditory. I mean, it is.

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It is like ships moving in the night. I mean, I'll say to. If he

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loses something, I'll go, where was the last place you saw it? And he just,

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like, looks at me like, huh. But if I say him, what were you listening

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to on the, you know, were you on your AirPods? Were you on your favorite

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speakers? Were you. You know, then he gets it. You know,

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it is so. It is so weird. And so part of that delegation

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process, or if in terms you're doing sales, it

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is really important that you understand what your style is,

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because that's your natural go to. But be able

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to expand that for other people, you know, whether it's giving a

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different kind of example or whatever to help

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your client or your employee or your, you know, to get what it

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is that you're doing. So this has been my. This has been my week of

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people with all kinds of learning kinds of things, myself included.

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Okay, so before we run out of time, I. I got to do

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the commercial. So I want to make sure

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that everybody takes some time to subscribe and share and

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engage on social media with the Podcast. And the reason

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I'm doing it is because I'm trying to, you know, make our community even

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more vibrant and fuel your quest for growth and impact. And I

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do that by trying to bring as many different kinds of people as I can

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with their stories and the things that they can do to help you

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so that you will be able to grow your business, pick and choose, and

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have experiences that you might not otherwise have. So I

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hope you'll continue to follow me and listen to The One Small Change

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Podcast. And if you haven't done it yet, you should listen to the first episode

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or to one of the quarter clarity check-in calls

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that I do where I talk about what's happening in the quarter and

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what trends are coming up.

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Stop being your own VA and get back to being your own

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visionary. I like it. I like it a lot.

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All right, guys, we've run out of time. We could talk a lot

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more about some of my favorite topics. But I want you to

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remember, change can be simple, but it's not always easy. And it

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takes courage, resilience, and a willingness to step out of your comfort

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zone. And like we said, if you really care, you're gonna, you know, feel a

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little butterflies in your stomach. And, you know, what I know

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is if you are not feeling uncomfortable, you're not

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growing. If you're not growing, you're actually stagnating because

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the world is moving forward with or without you. So I hope

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you will continue to join me for The One Small Change Podcast, and together

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we can build big visions and innovative possibilities. Until

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then, stay very curious.

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Brandi, thank you so much for giving us your thoughts and stuff.

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Oh, so happy to be here. Bye.

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