Have you ever found yourself not burned out... but just oddly flat at work?
In this episode, I respond to a listener who described a creeping sense of detachment and apathy in their work life—and the dread of staying stuck that way for the next 15 years. I share my own tipping point story from a Tuesday night in October (complete with toddler bedtime chaos and an empty interview with a man I can’t even remember), and how that night became the moment I decided to change everything.
If you're feeling like your career has lost its spark but you're not ready to throw it all away, this one's for you. I also share a 6-step “quest” plan to move from flat-lining to future-forward—including what I wish I’d done sooner, and a few ideas to get you experimenting again.
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🎧 Ready to start your quest? Let’s begin your unstucking.
I am Lucia Knight and this is the Joy At Work Podcast.
Lucia Knight:Here's our listener question this week.
Listener:I've been feeling unusually flat at work lately.
Listener:Not burned out or overstressed, just disconnected and flatlining.
Listener:This detachment is new and a bit concerning.
Listener:With 15 more working years ahead, supporting kids through uni and
Listener:adding to the retirement fund.
Listener:The thought of continuing like this feels pretty bleak.
Listener:Any advice?
Lucia Knight:Based on my work over the last nine years to feel good at
Lucia Knight:work, it needs to be enjoyable and satisfying at least 50% of the time.
Lucia Knight:That doesn't mean it has to be sunshine and applause every day.
Lucia Knight:Of course, we can all do hard things.
Lucia Knight:But if the next 15 years look like a long gray slog, that's a
Lucia Knight:tough sell to ourselves, to our coworkers, and to our families.
Lucia Knight:I liken it to a slow, steady drip of dissatisfaction.
Lucia Knight:Drip, drip, drip.
Lucia Knight:If you're strong, healthy and tenacious.
Lucia Knight:You can endure it for years, but eventually the flood barriers give way.
Lucia Knight:Sometimes it's a big external shot that cracks them open.
Lucia Knight:A personal health scare, a sick family member, or some
Lucia Knight:other big emotional hurricane.
Lucia Knight:At other times it's just the erosion, slow and steady that causes you to burst.
Lucia Knight:And by burst, I mean hitting your personal tipping point.
Lucia Knight:My personal tipping point happened in 2014.
Lucia Knight:It was a Tuesday night in October around my 42nd birthday.
Lucia Knight:I'd had a long day commuting in and out of London, leaving our beloved
Lucia Knight:nanny at 7:00 AM and returning home at 7:00 PM to tuck in two little girls.
Lucia Knight:Our nanny was practically family.
Lucia Knight:We even made her one of our girls godparents.
Lucia Knight:But even with that quality of support, it was hard.
Lucia Knight:It was hard to make it all work.
Lucia Knight:I'd squeezed in a 7:30 PM interview for a finance director
Lucia Knight:role I was running a search for.
Lucia Knight:That gave me less than 30 minutes to reconnect with my daughter.
Lucia Knight:Speed, read a bedtime story, and then rushed back downstairs
Lucia Knight:to professionally impress.
Lucia Knight:But the girls didn't get why we were hurrying.
Lucia Knight:Why mommy, who had been at work all day, still needed to do more work.
Lucia Knight:I lost my patience.
Lucia Knight:I shouted.
Lucia Knight:I gave each of them a cursory kiss and then whiz downstairs, turned on
Lucia Knight:my interview face and talked to a man whose name I can't even remember.
Lucia Knight:He was a great fit for the role.
Lucia Knight:But when that call ended, I sat with my head in my hands and
Lucia Knight:asked, is this the life I want?
Lucia Knight:What will be the cost if I continue this way for another
Lucia Knight:year or another five years?
Lucia Knight:Do I care enough about this kind of work to make those kinds of sacrifices?
Lucia Knight:The truth was I just didn't, my work was at best dull.
Lucia Knight:I'd been doing more or less the same things for two decades.
Lucia Knight:Albeit at more and more senior levels, but ultimately the same things, and the
Lucia Knight:cost of sticking with those same things for another decade was just too high.
Lucia Knight:I'd become the kind of mom I never wanted to be.
Lucia Knight:The kind of exhausted, not much fun wife I never imagined I'd be.
Lucia Knight:And the kind of disengaged, disconnected worker I never meant to be.
Lucia Knight:That night I didn't even speak to my husband about it when he got
Lucia Knight:home after his commute and long day at work, I was bone tired, but I'd
Lucia Knight:made a decision and that was one of the best decisions of my life.
Lucia Knight:I decided that this time next year.
Lucia Knight:I'll be somewhere different doing different work.
Lucia Knight:And of course, now I'd made that decision.
Lucia Knight:It meant I had to actually do something different Immediately.
Lucia Knight:I stopped watching Netflix every evening and instead went to bed early watching
Lucia Knight:Ted talks to find people who actually enthusiastically loved their work.
Lucia Knight:I started asking people who enjoyed their jobs, why, and how they made that happen.
Lucia Knight:I accepted calls from competitors for the very first time in my career,
Lucia Knight:not because I was job hunting, but to investigate is the problem me
Lucia Knight:or is it the company or the job?
Lucia Knight:No surprises.
Lucia Knight:It was me.
Lucia Knight:I was at the center of this problem and for the first time in years,
Lucia Knight:I started learning new things.
Lucia Knight:Little things.
Lucia Knight:At first, I bought books on topics I was curious about.
Lucia Knight:I learned how to sleep better, and boy, that was an investment in learning that I
Lucia Knight:continue to benefit from to this day and will benefit from for the rest of my life.
Lucia Knight:I ditched Friday night blowouts that masked my stress by numbing myself.
Lucia Knight:After the work week, I created space for thinking and research.
Lucia Knight:We also tightened the family finances, less expensive holidays,
Lucia Knight:less thoughtless spending in the UK's most expensive supermarket and
Lucia Knight:more savvy and mindful spending.
Lucia Knight:I say we for that one because making big changes after a 20 year career
Lucia Knight:isn't just a personal decision, it's a family one, and all of us got involved.
Lucia Knight:And then I began experimenting, small experiments, fun things, things that were
Lucia Knight:totally invisible to anyone except me.
Lucia Knight:They gave me the courage to try bigger experiments.
Lucia Knight:And I documented these experiments, or many of them
Lucia Knight:in an article with photographs to remind me how far I've come.
Lucia Knight:I've included a link in the show notes if you're curious to that article.
Lucia Knight:I called it, "How I gave my midlife the kiss of life".
Lucia Knight:To our listener who asked this week's question, my sense is you haven't hit
Lucia Knight:your tipping point just yet, but the fact that you're asking the question
Lucia Knight:means that you're heading towards it.
Lucia Knight:So here's what I'd suggest, a little six point plan.
Lucia Knight:Number one, remember today, write down today's date and the date
Lucia Knight:exactly 12 months from today.
Lucia Knight:It's important that you keep this somewhere prominent.
Lucia Knight:Front of your diary wallpaper on your phone, a sticky note on the fridge.
Lucia Knight:This is your personal commitment.
Lucia Knight:You are giving yourself a year to figure out what's next.
Lucia Knight:Number two, start a research project with people.
Lucia Knight:Talk to anyone who enjoys their work from any field asked How did that happen?
Lucia Knight:When did that happen?
Lucia Knight:What's the very best day of your week or month?
Lucia Knight:And why.
Lucia Knight:Ask how they minimize the badge or the flat or the blur days.
Lucia Knight:Three, spot your clues.
Lucia Knight:What topics do you love learning about?
Lucia Knight:What are you reading about when you fall down those rabbit holes?
Lucia Knight:What were you doing the last time you felt truly engaged at work?
Lucia Knight:When does time fly for you at work?
Lucia Knight:Write them down.
Lucia Knight:Follow those clues.
Lucia Knight:Four.
Lucia Knight:Run tiny experiments.
Lucia Knight:Try new things at work, outside work anywhere just to see what lights you up.
Lucia Knight:This is not about giant leaps.
Lucia Knight:It's about teeny tiny pieces of data gathering for your future self.
Lucia Knight:If you want ideas on experiments, there are 24 tiny episodes in Season two of
Lucia Knight:The Joy At Work Podcast each with one recommendation for a 10 minute experiment.
Lucia Knight:Do one of those a day, and that's nearly a month's worth of experiments.
Lucia Knight:Number five, give your year a name.
Lucia Knight:I love the word quest.
Lucia Knight:You are now officially on a quest.
Lucia Knight:A quest for energy, for meaning, for joy, for fun, for spark, glimmers of hope.
Lucia Knight:Keep treating it like the important quest that it is.
Lucia Knight:Go bravely through your quest year.
Lucia Knight:Learning, discovering, experimenting, playing.
Lucia Knight:Following clues, making decisions, opening doors, closing doors, digging
Lucia Knight:out new opportunities, meeting new people, and recording your progress
Lucia Knight:in a way that is just right for you.
Lucia Knight:Once you set out on this quest, you are no longer stuck.
Lucia Knight:Sure you don't know your direction yet, and you haven't got all the answers,
Lucia Knight:and that might be uncomfortable and unfamiliar, but you're no longer stuck.
Lucia Knight:You're on the move.
Lucia Knight:You have begun your quest.
Lucia Knight:Finally, number six, get help.
Lucia Knight:When you get stuck, what I know for sure is that if I was at the
Lucia Knight:start of my quest again, I'd have asked for help way before I did.
Lucia Knight:I was busy pushing square wheels uphill inside my head and wasting precious time.
Lucia Knight:There weren't many people I could go to back then for help, but there are now that
Lucia Knight:said, you need to find the right person for you, and it's a minefield out there.
Lucia Knight:Everyone and their dog has called themselves a career expert, so I'll
Lucia Knight:include a link in the show notes to an article I wrote, and it's called
Lucia Knight:How to Choose the Right Career Consultant for Your Situation, even
Lucia Knight:if you're not sure you need one yet.
Lucia Knight:Flat Lining at work for a day or two, that's totally normal.
Lucia Knight:Feeling that way for months or years.
Lucia Knight:Mm-hmm.
Lucia Knight:That deserves your attention, especially if you plan to work
Lucia Knight:for another decade or two.
Lucia Knight:Enjoyment at work isn't guaranteed for any of us, but it can happen.
Lucia Knight:And the chances of it happening vastly increase when you design it on purpose.
Lucia Knight:When you deliberately decide to make your next decade of work your best yet.