We contend that racism, by virtue of its entrenched institutional infrastructure, differs qualitatively from colorism, which, although pervasive and injurious, generally lacks comparable systemic mechanisms of enforcement. I explicate definitional distinctions and we interrogate how preferential treatment based on skin tone operates intra‑ and inter‑racially, while AG delineates how racism functions as an apparatus of power that white actors uniquely access. We anchor the theoretical exchange in lived anecdote — a canceled Wolf Trap concert and its tragic circumstances, reflections on anime and the white‑adjacent aesthetic, and demographic observations from Northern Virginia — in order to illustrate how race and color shape social experience. We analyze the commercial and cultural incentives that valorize lighter features and explain how colorism can intersect with, and at times approximate, the coercive effects of racism despite the absence of equivalent institutional infrastructure. Ultimately we assert that colorism is a potent source of harm within communities, yet racism’s systemic tentacles render it singularly capable of shaping life chances and enforcing inequity on a societal scale.

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This week on the five minute warning.

It's always supercharged when somebody says they're going to call the cops on a black man.

Always.

That's because racism is a system that is built for that white woman, so if she needs it, she can call on it.

And because everybody's biased already, then you already know.

I mean, two black cops could show up and the chances are still good the black perpetrator's still gonna get.

The show that gives you everything and nothing at all.

That's everywhere you don't want to be.

It's Reuben, Mo B.

And on the ones and twos, Ag.

The five minute warning or toes.

Hey, they still here.

I bust my stitches in a week somehow.

So we're.

We're healing the old fashioned way.

So yeah, man.

I mean, go.

Let's go for busting stitches.

So good job there, ag.

I see you're back.

I am awesome, man.

Appreciate you.

Appreciate.

You know.

So back to my question.

You.

How was your week today?

How was your week, man?

It was.

It was a lot going on.

It was a lot going on, bro.

Okay.

We.

We had planned.

I bought tickets for a show that my wife wanted to see.

Yeah.

Back in May.

And so the show was supposed to be Thursday.

Right.

So we up to this show is a wolf trap.

So it's like, you know, three and a half hours away.

It's fine.

Not a big deal.

But that, you know, that's where we are.

So we're getting ready for the show.

Everything's everything.

And we get to the.

We take the.

Because we take the bus to the venue because trying to get out of that place is ridiculous.

Trying to get there is crazy, too.

So where is that located?

At what?

In Vienna?

You know where wolf trap is?

Nah, I've never heard of wolf track.

That's what I was like.

Oh, you know, you.

You know what?

You know where Karen goes to see make a dish edition.

I Mean, I ain't never been there, but I understand what cousin Karen be going to see.

That's where it is.

That's most of the time.

That's where she.

That's where she's going.

Okay, so it's an.

It's an outdoor venue.

It's beautiful.

I suggest everybody go there and see anything they want once at least.

Nice.

So, yeah, it was cool.

So we got.

We in.

We stay in a hotel across street from Tyson's.

So there's a bus stop near the metro station that.

This bus that travels back and forth to take people to Wolf Trap to see the show.

So you don't have to try to navigate all that foolishness, trying to get into Wolf Trap parking and all that.

Of course.

Of course.

Why do all that shit?

100%.

So it's $10.

Everything cool?

Everything cool.

So we're just sitting there waiting for everybody to get on the bus.

So nothing's happening.

Everybody's just chilling.

And so the bus takes off.

We get to the venue, and we're getting ready to go park, and we can't get by because the cop has stopped us.

And it's like, okay, stop the bus.

Yeah.

So the cop roll up on the bus.

Before he even gets bus, he's given the, you know, no can do signal.

And I'm like, what?

He gets to the door and he says, show's canceled.

Oh, wow.

Like.

And people were.

We're all in disbelief.

Like, this got to be we being punk right now, right?

So immediately everybody gets on their phones trying to figure out what's going on.

Of course.

Well,.

No one has any information.

Nobody's social media of the band, the venue, nothing generally, you know, like general Google searches.

Nothing has changed.

And then slowly but surely, somebody said, I think somebody got murdered or somebody was killed.

And I was like, for real.

So we're on our way back.

Talk about a date.

Talk about a date, bruh.

It was crazy.

So we're going back to the bus stop that we, you know, our place of origin.

And I think it had come out that somebody did die, but no one's confirming it.

And so I think Lauren.

Lauren had found it, but she was on her phone.

She was on her phone, and she's just kept looking around until she found something.

She.

That detective, bro.

For real, that research.

So we, you know, we just made a night of it.

We just went to Wegmans, got some food, you know,.

Hang out a hotel room.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's all we did.

Because, I mean, we old People, man, we was tired anyway, for real.

So I like when you say that.

The next time we were, you know, she got on her phone, we were actually in the car on the way back home.

And so come to find out, the.

We believe it's the headliner, their road crew, the bus driver was working on their bus and it was on jack stands.

And either something hit the bus or the jack stand fell and the bus fell on him and he was killed.

So they didn't play that night.

And I was.

I can imagine.

Wow, that's crazy.

So that's what happened.

And it was like, it was really bizarre.

Like, I mean, I wasn't really mad.

It was like, I'm with my wife, it doesn't really matter as long as she'.

But at the same time I was kind of disappointed because one of the acts or two of the acts that were there, she had never seen.

And so it's like, that was sad.

And then the guy that was killed, you're thinking about his family, you're thinking about, I mean, you just minding your business, doing your job and you're.

All of a sudden, you're not.

You're dead.

Like, just this thing just crushed you.

It's like a free damn bus fell on you.

That sucks.

10 Ton bus just fell on you.

Like what?

Ain't no coming back from that shit.

No.

Even if it was, you don't want it.

So, you know, Hel was a lot of like, it was just kind of funky, man.

And then we were having car problems and we're trying to get that fixed.

And then everybody.

And it's the worst time, the worst time to have car problems is on a holiday.

Yes.

Because everybody is off and everybody's going to be off on that Monday before they go back to work.

And you're trying to go back to work, but you want to go.

You know, it's just all the things, man.

But it's just like, it was.

It's been a really bizarre week.

And it was just like, I'm kind of behind on the thing.

It's, it's like, is one of the weeks, man.

It's kind of.

It's not.

It's nothing really wrong, but it's just kind of like.

Okay.

And then, you know, she's a.

A colleague of hers is having issues because her husband's going through health issues and it's just dire.

And I'm like, bro, it's just like, I don't know, man.

It's just one of those things where it's just.

It's just weird right now, honestly.

But, you know, that's the dark side.

The light side was.

I got a complete ref.

Um, I was.

Because.

Because I was Lauren's first thought.

She was like, you didn't give you a refund?

I said, I don't know, man.

I did buy insurance on it because I was like, you know, that's a lot of money.

And so I was like, let me get insurance on this, because I think everything will be cool.

But, you know, who knows?

But then I was telling her, I said, insurance companies try their hardest to not pay you.

They're.

They're not in the business of paying you.

They're in the business of getting your money and trying not to pay you.

That's.

That.

That's their business.

But.

And I was telling her that.

She said, well, you gonna.

You gonna get in touch?

I said, yeah, I think I need to, you know, get home and get settled, and then I'll go through the emails I kept and, you know, just file a claim and all that.

Cause I don't remember.

So she took my phone, and she was going through it, and she was letting me know what the rules were.

I said, well, it sounds like we're golden.

But she was like, hey, they have to actually designate it as a canceled, not a rescheduled.

If it's rescheduled, then, you know, you don't get your money back.

Yeah.

Because you gotta go that next day.

Yep.

Right.

So I was like, I don't really care.

The only thing I cared about was you being happy.

And I'm really sad that you didn't get a chance to see the show.

But I ain't really worried about the money because I paid for that already.

It's just gone to me.

I'm like, whatever.

So she's like, well, not me.

My wife is all about protecting me.

Hey, man, boo, love ain't no joke.

She is not.

She's like, you need to get your money.

I said, well, you know, it is what it is.

So I was thinking about that on my mind.

I was thinking about, you know, when can we take her car in?

And I was thinking about all sorts of things.

And then, you know, it's just really weird.

But then before we got home, I think there was an email that was sent to where?

Oh, you got your refund.

And then by the time I got home, there was a text saying, you got your refund.

We'll.

We'll put it in your.

Your.

Your PayPal account.

Nice.

You know, by the 10th I think of this month.

So it's like they were, they were legit.

And next time I'm on a show I'll have it written down.

As exorbitantly priced as this place is, it's a good place to go.

If you are looking for tickets for a sold out event and you're willing to pay four times the price and by personal experience.

Personal experience.

If something goes wrong and you buy the insurance, which I suggest you do because again, you're paying four times the price.

Oh yeah, you're definitely going to get your money back.

They are legit.

It didn't sound like they were legit because they kind of shady because the color scheme of Wolf Trap website and the color scheme that was used on this, these, these people's website was the same.

And that's how I got fooled because I thought I was on Wolf Trap's website and I was like, wow, these tickets are really expensive.

Wolf Trap tickets ain't like this.

But I was like, I didn't have time for no foolishness.

I wanted the right season.

I got.

I'm trying to stay married.

Exactly.

So I just paid, I just paid the grip.

I had to pay.

It was what it was.

And so then she was like.

When cuz Lauren told me, she' like baby, you didn't get on, you know, you weren't on Wolf Trap site.

Because I ended up like a couple months later I ended up telling her how much they cost and she's like what?

And she went to the site and I told her and she was like, this is not Wolf Trap site.

And I was like what?

And I looked, I was like, man, but I, it is what it is.

So.

Hey, but it worked out.

It ended up working out.

You know, it's like I said, man,.

You got your cash back, bro.

Yes, yes I did.

I mean from start to finish, like I said, man, if there's a ticket out there that you want to, you know, you want to see an event and you got caught sleeping or the tickets just sold out really, really fast, this type of thing is a godsend because you can get tickets, you just gonna have to pay at least four times the price to get them.

So if you rock like that or if it's an emergency, there are people out there that are legit.

It feels like extortion and it kind of is.

I mean, four times, man, that's something.

But you got caught sleeping or everything was sold out and that's, that's, that's a place you can go to and it's like, hey, so you know, all in all it was good.

I'm definitely appreciative of my wife in so many ways all the time, but sometimes she just go another level, bro.

And I'm like, I ain't mad at you.

Love ain't no joke, sir.

She is not so, you know, shout out to Bula.

Always, always shouting out to Bula.

So like I said, man, it's just one of those things where wasn't nothing nothing about it was bad.

It was just like a lot of weird things going on.

That's all.

Yeah.

Excuse me.

So, yeah, I mean speaking of interesting and weird things, let's go ahead get into our topic today.

I really want to jump into.

It was supposed to been what we supposed to talk about last week, but we got caught up in some other so I decided this was important enough to bring back this week.

So the question of the day, very simple.

Is colorism as powerful as racism or are they the same with colorism not having a tangible system?

So before we really break that down, I want to break down the difference between the two.

So racism is prejudice, discrimination or antagonism directed at us against a person or group based on their perceived racial or ethnic status.

It involves systems of power and belief in the superior superiority of one race or over another.

Now, colorism is discrimination or preferential treatment, excuse me, based on solely on the lightness or darkness of a person's skin tone.

It typically favors lighter skin over darker skin.

It operates both within specific racial groups and across different groups.

Shout out to Google Gemini for that.

Now what that basically says in relation to the question is my opinion.

So I would say colorism is powerful as racism based on the group situation, because racism, it can be all encompassing and hey, we just don't like you because you different.

And I get that.

But see, part of it for me is more of a blanket type statement, right?

Because for instance, as an example, hey, you know, we're part of the Aryan race and we don't like people who of a.

Who are of a different skin color than what we would rather see you be.

However, colorism, I will equate that to especially black people.

Hey man, because I am lighter than Ag, I will benefit better in the system simply because in this current system that we live in, simply because he's darker than me and I am more trustworthy because of the color of my skin to certain people.

People, they still may not like me, but because I'm lighter, they may feel like he may be a little bit closer to us, even though in the grand scheme of things he ain't.

But we just don't like those dark guys.

So I, I, I hope I broke it down effectively.

But yes, my opinion is I think racism, Racism is dangerous.

Don't get it twisted and all that.

I just think that colorism, because it's more poignant and more direct, it can really do a lot more damage.

Make sure I got the question right.

I think you do a lot more damage in the integral ecosystem of people not liking each other, because racism is more like a blanket and colorism is more like a washtower.

I can affect this small box much harder than I can affect this big area.

So that's my opinion.

Ag, what say you?

Well, number one, Gemini got it wrong.

That's for starters.

Because racism, the difference between race and any other level of bigotry, colorism included, is racism has infrastructure, Racism has policy.

Racism has paved roads.

They have paved boulevards, they have avenues, they have interstates, they have flight paths to where you can call on something and it will happen based off of who you are.

So white people in general get really upset because black people can't be racist.

And in fact, I used to get upset too, because, like, you know, we absolutely can be racist.

But I didn't understand what racism was, what they actually want to say if they choose to, which they don't really want to say it.

But I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.

Black people are bigoted by definition.

We say a lot of, we say and do a lot of bigoted things.

We can't be racist because we can't access a system.

There's no way in which we can access a system that wasn't for us.

In fact, racism is a system put in place to keep us down or to kill us.

So we can't access those things.

So when you see like the example usually nowadays is like a white woman.

So first, first call to action is, I'll call the cops.

That's racism.

Because she knows that if cops show up, chances are she's not the one that's going to jail, even though she's the aggressor, even though she's the one in the wrong.

And if she's not in the wrong and there's, and there's a legit reason why she called the cops, it's liable to turn into something that with another white person, it would just been a dust up.

It had just been like, okay, this is misunderstand.

You go your way, you go your way, whatever.

It's always supercharged when somebody says they're gonna call the cops on a black man.

Always.

That's because racism is a system that is built for that white woman.

So if she needs it, she can call on it.

And because everybody's biased already, then you already know.

I mean, two black cops could show up, and the chances are still good that the.

Well, we'll call him a perpetrator because that's the way he's gonna be judged.

You know, the black perpetrator's still gonna get it.

Just cause two black cops show up doesn't mean that you're out of the woods.

That's racism.

So Gemini didn't mention that part.

And that's why it's wrong.

The definition of racism is wrong.

Colorism to me belongs to non white folks that are trying to be white adjacent.

And the.

The group that I see it from the most lately, Japanese.

I'm not saying that it's brand new.

I'm saying it's brand new to me.

And I've always had issue with a lot of things through anime, with Japanese culture with respect to anime and how they present themselves and express themselves.

It's like.

Like, why are y' all out here drawing white folks, like, a lot?

And I'm like.

To the point to where I find it hard.

And again, I'm not in anime to the point where I know everything that's going on.

So let me start there.

However, the anime that I do watch and have watched as a child, most or all the characters have white features.

And I'm like, anime belongs to you as the Japanese culture.

Anime is yours express.

And there is no question about that.

However, every time I watch anime, especially the older stuff that I grew up with, everybody white.

They have white features.

They have no Asian features.

None.

They're tall, They're.

They're lanky.

They have big doe eyes.

I'm like, what are we doing?

What are we doing?

That doesn't even look like y'.

All.

Not even close.

So I'm like, okay, so now I'm hearing about, you know, Japanese culture and how they have a.

They have a colorism problem.

Because all Japanese people aren't, like, super pale.

The ones that are super pale are better.

Just like Reuben said.

It's like their life.

They're treated better.

Yeah.

Their life is different than somebody who's darker.

Like.

Like, if you, like, people our age understand who Mr. Miyake was.

Mr. Miyake was brown.

For real.

He was a brown man.

Yeah.

And so his life is not his experience, his Japanese experience is not gonna be the same as somebody that was super pale.

You know what I'm saying?

And so, and, and, and, and like for black people, if again if you're our age, if you're between 40 and 60, you've seen school days, the wannabes and the jigabous, there is no more classic example of colorism than that.

You know, if you light skinned, you go into the bougie school, you think you're better than everybody else.

Well, you kinda are you everybody else because your life experience is a little softer than mine.

You're perceived as much more beautiful.

You're for white folks.

They say they like Reuben said, you're, you're safer because you don't have that aggression of dark color.

And there is, there is a level of aggression to dark color.

I mean how many black cars are out there?

And it's like O, well the color black is aggressive, aggressive.

And so, you know, I'm just saying if we're talking about this, let's talk about it.

So it's just like the dark skinned guy, I don't know.

But the light skinned person gotta have that.

I mean like if you watching bet, how many light skinned women, I mean how many light skinned women did you see?

And it was like, yo, but how hard is it for a dark skinned woman to be like, hey girl, what your name is?

You gotta be super beautiful as a dark skinned woman to be considered beautiful by everyone.

I mean you gotta, you know, Lupita Nyong', O, I mean she's, she's stupid fine, but she had to be stupid fine as a dark skinned woman to be perceived as beautiful as opposed to someone that was lighter skinned.

Like Ashley on the original Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Karen Parsons, like that's easy, you know what I'm saying?

It's easy.

You have to be super like unattractive to be called unattractive if you're a light skinned person.

And so it's just like black people have a problem with it.

And let's not leave out the Latinx people, they have a huge colorism issue and it works.

And the reason why the question is set up the way it is because without the infrastructure, this is just like human bias to a man or to a person.

Because their colorism problem, if you hear them talk about it with respect to their own country and their own experiences, it feels like racism.

If you're darker colored, there are certain things you're not going to do or there are certain things that if you do get it done.

It took you a lot more work than it did for your light skinned counterpart.

I mean, Asian people, Latinx people, black people, man, the struggle is real.

If you're not light skinned.

And if you light bright, life is really easy.

Life is super easy if you're, if you're an attractive light bright.

And when I say light bright, I mean really super pale, not red bone because Ruben is kind of red.

You know what I mean?

Reading, like light bright.

Because on Shirley is super light.

So yes she is.

I mean there's no question she's beautiful.

But that light skin helps out too.

That's like extra.

And so, you know, her experience in life might have been different than somebody that was as beautiful as she was or is and darker skin.

I'm just saying every, every culture has an issue with that.

I don't know a culture that doesn't.

The lighter your skin is, the more the perception of beauty is a lot easier to attain.

And so the difference between colorism and, and ra, to me, the only difference between the two most of the time is that they don't.

Colorism doesn't have infrastructure.

It's just to a person, a group of people, where racism is something that the white people in general have access and it's a machine that you can manipulate to do what to, to do what you want it to do.

You can, you can have, you can do it for, for good.

Because there are certain places that black people and people of color can't reach.

And you can, you know, you can take it and turn it around on them because you white or you can just use it for the, you know, the basic stuff like you can use it for evil or use it to get your way.

You know, stuff like that.

But having, having structure and having a system matters.

However, sometimes racism and colorism do intersect because depending on who you talking to, if you talking to another light skinned person that has the power to do something for you and they look at you and you dark skinned, they be like, I'm looking for this light skinned person.

I ain't looking for you.

Even though you use a person for the job job, they can look at you and make a bias and then make a judgment and change your life behind it.

Come to find out the only reason it was, it wasn't your skill, it was your color.

Now don't that sound like racism?

Sure it does.

So it's pap.

In some places it's paper thin.

The difference between racism and colorism is paper thin.

I hear that, I hear that, you know, I think it is very interesting.

I'm take a couple of your points and just expand on it a little bit.

I do think it's interesting as I look back at the star blazers, the Gundam, the Voltron.

Yeah, man.

All them people white.

Even though, even though it came from Japan.

Japan, all them people were pretty white.

Like, yeah, they were just pretty white.

I mean, even though, even though you might have had one woman who looked Asian, but the rest of the women were definitely, you know, brown hair, blonde hair, talk like a valley girl to that sort of thing.

And Starblazers was like early 80s, late 70s.

Correct.

Actually mid 70s because it mid 70s.

Yeah.

Yeah, so yeah, so mid, mid late 70s.

Yeah.

And I'm even Gundam's older than that because that's where Starbladers came from.

And Gundam, all them people white too.

But it Japanese cartoon, you know.

And then of course, you know, Voltron, all those people were white.

And then when they replaced them, replace one of the guys with a woman, she had blonde hair.

So yeah, man, it, you know, it is interesting.

So I never, you know, as a kid I didn't notice things like that because they were, I was a child.

But now it's just like, huh, you know, Is that my question more is did they do that to sell their product or did they do that because that's how they truly saw themselves back then.

So I mean, there are two different things with that, you know, because I would, I would then turn around and say there's a Power Rangers that came in the 90s were also based off of Japanese Power Rangers, but that was live action.

Saw those cats were aging now.

You might have had a couple, you know, who look like colorism hit him and it looked like they could pass.

But you know, all those cats were agent because they all spoke Japanese and you know, and they all look Asian because it was live action.

So I guess I asked that, I asked this question behind it.

Do you think that they are more influenced by America in their, in the capitalistic country that we live living?

And that kind of led them to create what they created because remember in cartoons the only thing that had to be redone was the voice.

But when we went live action, especially with the Power Rangers, they had to redo everything but the fight scenes.

So I, I, I, I, I ask you that ag you know, was it how they thought they really wanted themselves to be or do they thought that, hey, man, money makes the world go around.

And if we want to really make money, especially in America, there's some shit we got to do.

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Yes to both.

And I'll explain why, because I'm glad you brought that up, because that's one thing I was missing.

I was.

Wasn't an argument, but it was how I felt about it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it's like if I was building an argument, it would have been.

I would have been remiss if I didn't, you know, mention the fact that there's no way that you.

That you can be global without.

Because the global economy still, from a consumer standpoint, the global economy runs through.

America is as third world country as we're becoming.

If you want to sell.

Sell something, you have to sell it to the greatest consumers.

And we are still the greatest consumers of products.

So 100%, the thought process to me had to be, hey, if we make these.

These characters white, especially back then, Right.

Well, even now, it doesn't matter.

Even now.

Okay?

Nothing's changed.

I think that we would have a better chance of selling it as opposed to everybody looking like us.

Because now, you know who's going to relate to that?

Because relating to life is relating through white.

A white lens.

And that's for a lot of products, especially when you're talking about a product that you have to look at and it's a human.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

And so that part is true.

That's why I said yes to that part now, per my experience.

Experience.

And just watching How Asians move.

They do.

They are white adjacent.

That is the goal.

Sometimes.

Now, sometimes they pro Asian for real.

And they like, no, you.

I'll sell you this, this, this, whatever I'm trying to sell you.

But we.

We not.

We're not trying to mix it up here.

Yeah, keep that.

Just like.

Just like, you don't call a Japanese person Chinese.

Oh, God.

Like, and vice versa.

That it's a fight.

So.

Or what I'm really saying is they don't see it as a goal for their daughters to marry or daughters or sons to marry a white woman or man.

Because it's like to be white adjacent makes you not black.

It.

It goes, you know, you get farther and farther away from that black centric.

Yeah.

Because it's.

It's all bad.

I mean, and I'm not even mad.

It's like, if I'm them and I'm looking at how black people are treated, I want to be better than that.

Because I don't want to get treated like that.

That's for damn sure.

Sure.

I'm taking advantage of everything black people have given me without being black.

And I have to.

And then I'm gonna turn around and treat black people the way white folks treat them.

Because that.

That make.

That legitimizes me.

Now, you might be a Polish person in the Mafia, you can never be a made person, but you're still in.

You're not in the.

You're not.

You're not outside, you're not out back.

You're not.

You're not.

Because black people can't do business at all with the mafia from the inside, where if you're Henry Hill, you have access.

You can't be a made guy, but you have access.

And so the more I separate myself from you, the better off my life is.

And if you don't believe me, go to Mississippi and ask no Asians down there.

They don't even sound Asian.

When you close your eyes and you hear them talk, you could never guess that that person talking to you is Asian.

And the way they feel about black people, you would never guess that they're Asian.

Asian people generally don't like black people.

And a lot of it becomes from, I don't want to be treated like y'.

All.

Now, going back to the anime thing, when I look at the situation as a whole, from the how in the world you fix yourself to draw people that look white when they drop two bombs on you that decimated your country unnecessarily?

Hiroshima, Nagasaki, bro.

Two nuclear bombs.

And then you had nerve to draw people inspired by.

Inspired by white folks.

Come on, bruh.

Drop bombs like Hiroshima, man.

Yeah.

The idea that you can still do that lets me know your white adjacent is legit.

You are in this country legally.

You are a citizen of America.

World War II pop off and they put you in internment camps and you can fix your hand to draw anime.

That is a discipline that is purely Japanese and everybody white.

And you're going to sit here and tell me they don't want to be white adjacent?

Bruh, black people gave you the life that you have in this country.

From a civil rights standpoint, the reason why you got off is not your hard work.

Not 100%.

It's not all your hard work.

A lot of it is the infrastructure that we fought, bled and died for and you took advantage of and then gonna turn around and tell us we ain't nothing.

That's what's really going on here.

Now, don't get me wrong.

You did work hard.

You just ain't that good.

You're just not.

Because we laid out road work for you to just going on down the road, do what you gotta do.

Meanwhile, even the civil rights that we have in place doesn't even really work out for us the way it should, but it works out for you and everybody else fine and dandy.

So let's.

Let's.

Let's not nickname it.

And so for all of that, every.

All the ways in which this country has treated you, and it's awful, but I will say it's situational.

And it's not necessarily unique, universal.

It's not every day for y', all, but still, it was bad.

And then you draw anime.

Everybody look white.

Come on, bruh.

Yes, you have a colorism problem.

And you don't.

If you don't.

If you know about it, it's like, so the lighter you are, the more powder you look, the better off your life is.

And so since this is what we're doing, let's call it what it is.

And like I said, I'm talking about Japanese because to me, it's new.

I'm learning this stuff.

But it's no different than black people.

It's no different than Latinx people.

If you have shades in your culture, deference is always too light.

Always.

Why you think people are more comfortable with white Jesus?

As human beings, we are much more comfortable with white Jesus.

We are not comfortable with black Jesus.

We are not.

We're not even comfortable saying there's a black Jesus.

Even Florida Evans Was like,.

Put the real Jesus back on the wall.

Stop this blasphemy.

Stop this blasphemy.

You heard me.

You laughing because you know I'm wrong, right?

I mean, Florida Evans, baby.

Hey, man.

And this one in this one a little bit because they were blaspheming, but it wasn't because it was black Jesus.

It was because they were blaspheming.

And so it's just like, nah, man.

Nah, y'.

All.

No, no, but like I said, man, we not.

We not.

Light is right.

Light is right.

The only thing, the only difference to me on a day to day basis, the only difference to me between colorism and racism is colorism doesn't have the steep.

And just like.

I mean, the infrastructure is like 10 toes down.

You know what I'm saying?

Like a.

Like a.

It's a superhighway.

It's the Internet, it's.

It's flight patterns.

It's everything that we have that can take us to point a ton to Z is the system that racism has that colorism doesn't.

So like I said, they intersect sometimes, but colorism just doesn't have the infrastructure that racism does.

And only one type of person can access it.

That's the other thing.

Because everybody can access colorism because we just talked about it.

We talk about Asian people, we talk about latitude people, we talk about black people.

Everybody that has, you know, a gradient of color in their ethnic group or racial group has access to colorism.

There's only one group in the world that has access to racism.

One and everybody.

That's why I'm gonna say this.

And I know it's gonna sound really, really bad.

And I'm sorry if they gonna.

If they come get you, Ruben, it's on me.

I'm just saying.

It's your show, bro.

Of course it's my show.

Well, I'm gonna say this right now, and I've been thinking about.

I've been thinking about it for about a month.

Go for it.

There is not a white person living, including all the white people I know and love that are legit.

There is not a white person living, not one that is not a racist.

Not one.

Because you are born into a system that you and only you can access.

Whether you are party to it or not is immaterial because it doesn't matter if you're party to it.

You can.

Access is all over you every day.

Just because you exist.

Just because you exist.

When you get upset, things change.

The needle moves.

When I get upset, I'm going to jail.

You can make things happen.

I can't make happen purely because you exist.

And if you're struggling with that, think about.

Just think about it in a very small, small, small way.

Ruben, you and I belong to the same family on.

On one side, right?

Mm.

When we wake up in the morning, we are Browns.

We are.

Now, my last name is Riddick, but still, we are Browns.

We have the Brown family.

There is no.

There's no amount of time or.

There's no cataclysmic event that can happen that will.

That will make us not Browns.

Correct.

We have the same experiences.

We move the same way.

We interpret life the same way.

All of that is the same purely because we are Browns.

Okay?

We don't understand life outside of that construct.

We don't.

If somebody rolls up on us and says, man, why you gotta be so and so and so?

We might not even see the flaw because we're Browns.

And that's what Browns do.

Do you really think Michael Corleone wanted to be a gangster?

No.

But did he benefit from it?

Sure.

He can't.

He can't help but benefit from it.

There was a time in the Godfather.

The Godfather timeline, halfway through that movie, Michael Corleone had no desire to be anywhere near what was going on, but he still benefited from it.

Just saying.

Yeah.

And that's what racism is.

When you are born as a white person, you.

You inherit this power to the point to where somebody says, you're a racist.

You're like, I'm not a racist.

You kind of are, but you're probably not bigoted, but.

No, you can't.

You can't be in the rain and not get wet.

You can't.

Now, again, my wife is an ally.

At least she been doing.

She been.

She been doing her since we were k. She didn't know what she was doing, but she just thought, y' all crazy.

I'm doing what I'm doing.

I don't care what y' all think.

And I.

And she got receipts.

Cause I seen the receipts.

But that doesn't mean that she's not a racist.

Not even close.

And it doesn't mean that she's an awful person.

It means that she exists.

It means that she exists as a white person.

You can't be in the ring and not.

Not get wet.

That's why I led with.

This goes out to all the people, all the white folks in my family and my life that I know and love.

Yes, you too.

Just because racism is a construct and it has Tentacles that are everywhere.

It's a system that you, only you can access.

Why does mo have winner call when they get a verbo or whatever.

She's got the white voice.

That's racism.

They're used.

They're cheating the system.

They're cheating the system.

But the system is white and white only.

I'm just saying,.

I, I don't like.

There's no rebuttal or anything from over here.

I mean, even if it was, I'm, I'm willing to hear you out, but at the end of the day, we, man, we look, listen, colorism belongs to everybody.

Yeah, definitely.

Racism belongs to white people.

They can all.

They're the only persons in the world that can access.

That's it.

Now, again, we can cheat the system, but we, but it's cheating the system.

Eventually we gonna, we're gonna get caught like the villains of Scooby Doo.

Snatch that mask off.

So, just saying so for me.

I mean, they intersect sometimes.

They do.

But colorism does not have exclusive.

I mean, that doesn't, is not inclusive.

And it doesn't have structure, it doesn't have infrastructure.

That is the major difference.

And that's why I led with Google or Gemini.

I'm sorry, Gemini got it wrong.

Gemini got it so wrong because I was listening to you talk, I was like, wait a minute, where's this, where's the systematic part that makes it bigotry?

So AI, watch yourself, y' all.

AI get it wrong too.

But anyway, yeah, that's, that's the answers your question.

To be fair on the AI, there was a lot more here too, but I just, there's key differences and stuff like that.

But I'm gonna be real.

I didn't go, I didn't really want to go that deep because I felt like that I'm only supposed to give definitions.

And that's how I started it, starting when I read the whole five, you know, four page letter.

On what, on what Gemini said.

So.

But you are correct, I mean, Well, I.

In your defense, everything that we define, everything that I define, racism is.

Should have gotten said in the, in the, in the five sentences that you read.

Yeah.

And it didn't.

And I was like, that's not good.

I mean, you know, because I think.

What else, what else?

They say key differences about scope, origin and visibility.

I mean.

However, this is interesting that it did say most users on Reddit agree that colorism functions as a close relative or subcategory of racism, yet targets specific physical traits within communities.

I guess the interesting thing about this is not a thing on, on Gemini.

But the interesting thing about the AI is for each statement it gets is where it came from.

Right?

So like Time magazine was the definition of colorism, Reddit was definitions of stuff.

Wikipedia was definitions of stuff.

I almost feel like we need to strengthen AI because I'm gonna be very honest with you, I don't feel confident about anything saying my site is working Wikipedia because anything can be rewritten on Wikipedia and changed.

Well, AI at this point, it's like we have to feed in information for it to know anything.

So you need to double check it anyway, as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, but I mean, I guess what I'm saying is, you know, especially in this interest, most instance I think it's fine.

But like, yeah man, if you, if you're, if where you get information from is called Wikipedia and Time magazine, I at least say this reputable to a point.

Unless it's the opinion part of Time magazine, which it doesn't state that.

But if Wikipedia is your source, we gotta do better.

I mean, and I'm not trying to be an ass, but Wikipedia, man, I can make a Wikipedia on me and put whatever I want on it.

And you can come and be like, yo, that ain't right and put it in and change it and they'll change it.

Yeah, I don't know if I want that to be my dictionary of.

I would have felt better if they got it from Webster's Dictionary's website, like definitions.

But you know, once you, like you said we got to put in information, it is what it is.

So.

And I didn't go and trip double and triple check to make sure that Wikipedia didn't use the Webster's Dictionary.

But once again, they could have, they could have said they used it and they didn't.

And do I have the time to go check out Webster's Dictionary for everything?

No.

So sure.

Don't you have time?

Nah, no, not that kind of time.

I got other to be doing.

So what this basically says, ladies and gentlemen, is hey, trust AI to your comfort level.

Now once again, I'm not going to sit here say shit's wrong.

I'm going to sit here and say shit's questionable because once again, if Wikipedia is your source, I need you to find another source.

Just because the last time I checked, Wikipedia is not the Webster's Encyclopedia now it is it, it is a quote unquote encyclopedia, but the fact that it could easily be changed if somebody changes some.

Yeah, so enough of that and great Conversation ag, which I will then return to you and say what's on your mind.

Well, I'm gonna go back to northern Virginia because there's something interesting that I had seen.

Like, we had seen a show two years ago.

Great show, bad sound, do better.

But we got there a little early, so we kind of hung out before we had.

Before our check in time.

So we're at the mall.

We're at Tyson's Galleria, and we're sitting there having a pizza, whatever, just chilling.

And I look around, and I notice it's, like, real brown.

Like, you know, by Persia, India.

All the brown.

All the brown, just thriving, thriving.

Saw a couple of Lambos.

Brown people love it.

They getting down, and it's kind of always been that way.

And so I didn't really pay it any mind.

So this time, the same thing.

We get there, and we go to Tyson's Galleria having pizzas.

Same place, great pizza.

Andy's Pizza, upstairs on the third floor.

If you are familiar, if you're not, remember that.

They got great pizza, Fair price.

I kind of want pizza now.

Kind of good, bro.

Kind of good.

Well, we're sitting down, eating pizza, and I'm just scanning, scanning the area, looking around, and a lot of brown people.

A lot of brown people saw another Lambo.

I'm like, okay, more brown people.

Brown people just thriving.

I'm like, okay.

And I'm like.

I'm just like.

I'm thinking of myself, and I'm like, I don't live up here, but I familiar.

And I'm like, so y' all mean y' all hate black people so much that brown people can, like, get down?

For real?

Because as many brown people as I saw, I never felt more safe than I usually do as a black person.

Mm.

And I just feel like white folks hate black people so much that they will allow people that they routinely call terrorists for no apparent reason to thrive in an area that is.

That was legit white, for real, Northern Virginia.

And, you know, for most of my life was a very, very, very white, white, affluent area in that Tyson's corner area.

Vienna Falls Church, Great Falls, you know, Fairfax, all of that.

And I'm like, okay, but that's not the case anymore.

And I'm not talking about some, like, you know, here and there or whatever.

Oh, that's cute.

Nah, this is legit.

Brown people out here just getting it done.

And I'm like, wait a minute.

Y' all can't stand us so bad that you gonna let somebody you call terrorists thrive Okay, I see you and then I'm on Instagram and some woman would just like randomly post it.

Black people.

White folks hate black people so bad that they voted for a pedophile as opposed to the brown skinned woman.

Can't argue that because again, I'm almost 60.

I remember where there were certain things politically, you know.

Oh, I shouldn't say that.

There are certain things in your life that you could not do if you were in politics.

There are certain things that you.

I'm gonna say this again.

There were certain things that you could not do and thrive in politics or have a political career at all having.

Having like Nazi agenda, nascent speech and friends and behavior.

That was one.

Messing around with kids.

That topped the list.

Yet here we are.

So.

It might.

You have some, might have somebody that argues with you and they may have a few good points, but at the end of the day, there are no safe places for you.

Black, Black, bruh.

They are no safe places for you.

They hate you.

And they will allow anything or anyone or any group to thrive before they allow you to do so as a black person or group or entity, you still have to pay that black tax.

And that's what's on my mind.

All right, sir.

Sounds good.

Good.

So what's on my mind?

Same topic of food.

So I decided since I'm laid up in the house, you know, let's cook some.

Is that what you said?

That's.

That's right.

Let's cook some.

So I planned this out yesterday and today, first thing I cooked, I had to pull out the wok.

Oh, wow, you got a wok.

Yes.

Pre seasoned.

Is it pre seasoned or you season?

I had.

I had to season it.

I got it.

I've had it like eight, nine months, so I had to season it before I could use it the first time.

Okay, that process was a pain in the ass.

But I pulled out the wok, baby.

Yesterday I had.

Have a rice cooker, about three, three things of rice, put it in the freezer.

Because your boy cooked some fried rice today.

Not just any old fried rice, some shrimp fried rice, has some shrimp in the freezer.

I gotta do something with this shit, you know, I had the fried rice packet.

I did have to pick up some mixed vegetables today.

I had the soy sauce and everything.

Couple eggs, boom, boom, boom.

Do it up.

Is that what you're doing?

That's right.

Do it up.

Boom.

Shrimp fried rice.

But I didn't.

I didn't stop there.

No, no, no, no, no.

Oh, no.

There's more.

There's more.

I decided let's do some chicken and broccoli too.

So.

Chicken and broccoli.

Yes, sir.

Chicken and broccoli fried rice.

Okay, I know, right?

So cooked chicken.

I followed the instructions when bro.

I had some frozen broccoli in the fridge.

After I cooked the chicken, pull that out, put the broccoli in steam.

That joint in the wok got used out the wok today.

Then the instruction said, put all that in together, you know, get the juices, whatever, whatever on.

Everything was good today.

I can tell.

Had.

I had a. I had a.

A plate.

Shrimp fried rice on the bottom, chicken broccoli on top.

Yes, sir.

Let's go.

Hey.

And all I did was punch some in my phone about cooking stuff.

It's all text.

Yeah, man, it's good.

It's good.

I got enough for tomorrow too.

So maybe got enough for.

For on Tuesday for work.

So we'll see how that rolls.

Are you going back to work?

Going back to work Tuesday.

Okay.

That's the plan.

That's the plan.

See the doctor on Wednesday.

Had to change my bandage today.

Shout out my boy Terry, he came through and, you know, helped me change my bandage.

Well, my rap because, you know, Dr.

Wanted to change, wanted to change in the middle.

I was like, no problem.

He's a paramedic.

So he was able to unwrap and rewrap and stuff.

And hey, man, I think.

I think the healing's going better express affected.

Because like I was telling people earlier, guy wants to put a wound vac on my foot.

I like my doctor.

That's a strong.

Hell no.

If I ain't got it because you put a wound back, man, I can't do.

There's no walking anywhere because then it's basically a.

It's a.

If you've never seen womb vac.

Basically what it does, it gets all the blood out.

You know, it sucks all of blood to heal faster.

But the problem with it is it's a big plastic thing on your foot with a string attached to it, attached to a vacuum.

I mean, that's cool for walking around the house and that ain't cool for public consumption because your looks weird.

Hey, what's that?

You know, little kids, man.

Frankenstein up in that.

You say, got time for that?

So what?

I've been taking good care of my foot, you know, I haven't been putting too many miles on it.

I gotta get the infusions every day, so I go do that for an hour, you know.

Yeah, man.

Like, other than that, I feel Good.

I look like I'm 53.

I gotta cut my hair because I look older, you know.

But 10 days off.

No, 11 days off of work, man.

Why cut your hair?

Fuck it.

Like, you ain't going nowhere.

I'm at the house.

I leave my house for an hour and a half every day to go to a place and come back home.

Like that's what it is.

So.

But yeah, man, shout out to.

Shout out to everybody who has been helping me along the way.

We.

We getting close, baby.

We getting close.

I just hope that we can get this done now.

So that's the plan.

But yeah, man, other than that.

Yo, people, you want to be valuable to yourself and to other people.

Learn how to cook.

If you don't know how to cook, you got a phone and you can.

And if you can read, if you can read and you know what an oven looks like, you got a chance.

So that's the only thing I'm saying.

If you're out here and you're older than 25 and you can't cook, there's absolutely something wrong with you.

Unless you're.

Unless you're just independently wealthy.

And if you're independently wealthy, send your boy some money because he's got hospital bills.

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