Shownotes
This episode of the Small Business Origins podcast features guest Alexis Haselberger, a time management and productivity coach from San Francisco. She shares her personal journey into entrepreneurship and coaching, as well as advice for improving efficiency, prioritization, planning, focus, and more. You'll hear all about how she got started, and how she can help you.
Main discussion points:
- Alexis' transition from working at startups to starting her own business
- Common time management myths and mistakes
- Strategies for productivity, planning, prioritization
- Building sustainable habits
- Managing distractions and notifications
Guest Bio:
Alexis Haselberger is a time management and productivity coach who helps people do more and stress less through coaching, workshops and online courses. Her pragmatic, yet fun, approach helps people easily integrate practical, realistic strategies into their lives so that they can do more of what they want and less of what they don't. Alexis has taught thousands of individuals to take control of their time and her clients include Google, Lyft, Workday, Capital One, Upwork and more.
Key Quotes:
"I had worked in startups and I was familiar with entrepreneurship...I just didn't think about it for me." (00:05:47)
"There are a number of different traits, tendencies, scales where they have something to do with how we get things done. And knowing about ourselves helps us to build sustainable strategies." (00:20:39)
"I teach science backed habit strategies that help us with that...we also talk about strategies and teach people strategies so that they can sort of create focus out of thin air when you need to because sometimes you need to." (00:28:32, 00:29:47)
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Transcripts
[00:00:01] John Kelley: Tell me your story.
[:[00:00:03] Intro: Do you remember?
[:[00:00:05] John Kelley: How did it stop?
[:[00:00:10] John Kelley: I love an origin story.
[:[00:00:16] Alexis Haselberger: Who is he?
[:[00:00:18] John Kelley: Who started with just an idea, and they're now making waves.
[:[00:00:23] John Kelley: This is Small Business Origins.
:: [:[00:00:31] Intro: Welcome back to another episode of Small Business Origins.
[:[00:00:35] Intro: It's our nationwide search for entrepreneurs that have a story to tell.
[:[00:00:44] Intro: From San Francisco, I have Alexis Hasselberger with Alexis Hasselberger Coaching and Consulting.
[:[00:00:52] Alexis Haselberger: Thanks so much for having me, John.
[:[00:00:55] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:00:56] Intro: This is an interesting episode for me because my weakness is time management.
[:[00:01:08] Intro: And I am fully aware of the fact that all of us have the same amount of time and some of some of us are more productive than others.
[:[00:01:23] Intro: It's my fault.
[:[00:01:25] Intro: It is just as an ADHD person who has a million things, a million irons in the fire, it is hard for me sometimes to put those things in order and kinda tackle them the way that I need to.
[:[00:01:41] Intro: And, but before we hop into all of that, we always start out with an icebreaker question.
[:[00:01:48] Intro: And today's icebreaker question is all in all, who is more likely to cry during an emotional moment, you or your spouse?
:: [:[00:01:46] Intro: So we have to go that route first.
[:[00:01:56] Alexis Haselberger: Oh, a 100% me.
[:[00:02:01] Alexis Haselberger: I mean, I think, like, you know, I have been with my with my spouse for, like, almost 20 years, and I think I've seen him cry twice.
[:[00:02:13] Intro: severe issue.
[:[00:02:14] Alexis Haselberger: Yeah.
[:[00:02:16] Alexis Haselberger: Like, I don't cry very often.
[:[00:02:22] Alexis Haselberger: But what my kids will tell you is I actually just cry at inappropriate moments.
[:[00:02:33] Intro: See, that's me.
[:[00:02:36] Intro: I'll cry at the big stuff too.
[:[00:02:44] Intro: And stereotypically, my and my wife's relationship is incorrect.
[:[00:02:55] Intro: It's just how society views it.
[:[00:02:59] Intro: It's me.
[:[00:03:06] Intro: Like, the big one for me is the to infinity and beyond.
[:[00:03:12] Intro: Instantly tears.
[:[00:03:14] Intro: I'm just crying already, you know?
[:[00:03:28] Intro: I'm like, Don't worry, you're getting it too.
[:[00:03:33] Intro: And I'm like, You're so cold hearted.
[:[00:03:42] Intro: Before I had kids, I was the type of person that and I still am this way a little bit, like, in the moment.
[:[00:03:55] Intro: You know?
[:[00:03:57] Intro: That's just how me and my dad were.
[:[00:04:01] Intro: You know, if if it was me, he'd have probably been doing the same thing.
[:[00:04:09] Intro: I have gallows humor.
[:[00:04:15] Intro: But you're right, those inappropriate moments when it's like some sappy TV show or TV commercial or a TikTok video, big time tears.
[:[00:04:24] Intro: And like all of the tired dad videos and the little kids growing up into big kids or to adults, all of them get me every single time.
[:[00:04:42] Intro: That's right.
[:[00:04:47] Intro: 100%.
[:[00:04:51] Alexis Haselberger: You are.
[:[00:04:52] Intro: It's Yep.
[:[00:04:53] Alexis Haselberger: kids will have less therapy because you cried.
[:[00:05:01] Intro: Like, I have no shame in the fact that I'm an emotional person sometimes because you have to, no matter who you are, you have to deal with the emotions in some way.
[:[00:05:12] Intro: It's just some people may come home and kick the dog, or unfortunately go to domestic violence or child abuse or something else, but they're still expelling those emotions in some way.
[:[00:05:25] Intro: Totally.
[:[00:05:28] Intro: So we'll get back to that.
[:[00:05:32] Intro: You know, Alexis, where did you come from?
:: [:[00:05:36] Intro: How'd you get into entrepreneurship?
[:[00:05:39] Alexis Haselberger: So I honestly, like, I'm one of those people that never John, entrepreneurship was actually, like, not a thing that I was thinking about when I was younger at all.
[:[00:05:55] Alexis Haselberger: And I'm in, you know, San Francisco, Silicon Kelley.
[:[00:06:00] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:06:13] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:06:18] Alexis Haselberger: And so I I worked in startups and I was familiar with entrepreneurship.
[:[00:06:26] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:06:30] Alexis Haselberger: I thought I'm too risk intolerant.
[:[00:06:38] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:06:40] Alexis Haselberger: And I had worked for the same CEO at 2 different companies, like, across the last 10 years, and I had built up a lot of autonomy and a lot of trust.
[:[00:06:51] Alexis Haselberger: And so the prospect after that shutdown of, like, me trying to go get another job was so distasteful.
[:[00:07:01] Alexis Haselberger: I don't wanna go prove myself to somebody else.
[:[00:07:06] Alexis Haselberger: I know what I'll do.
[:[00:07:08] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:07:09] Alexis Haselberger: And it has been a lot better.
[:[00:07:19] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:07:23] Alexis Haselberger: But once it became like, hey, it's that or go work for somebody else again, it was a clear clear path for me.
[:[00:07:38] Alexis Haselberger: Because I never worked long hours when I was working at startups.
[:[00:07:48] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:07:59] Alexis Haselberger: And honestly, it didn't come super easily to me either.
[:[00:08:09] Alexis Haselberger: And so it's kind of like a lifetime of coping mechanisms that now I can help other people with.
[:[00:08:16] Intro: I found out like 3 or 4 years ago, or I don't know, I've lost track of time.
[:[00:08:21] Intro: I was an adult.
[:[00:08:26] Intro: And why it was so hard for me to stay focused on things.
[:[00:08:40] Intro: And, like, I realized all of these things about myself, but then I didn't understand why, and I would just cope with it, just like you said.
[:[00:08:47] Intro: I mean, that makes perfect sense.
[:[00:09:01] Intro: What exactly did the transition look like of working for someone and then going to working for yourself?
[:[00:09:14] Intro: If I wanna eat next week, I'm just gonna have to figure it out.
:: [:[00:09:17] Alexis Haselberger: I mean, we were like, I knew in advance.
[:[00:09:21] Alexis Haselberger: So it's like, I knew this was all happening.
[:[00:09:27] Alexis Haselberger: And this idea of helping people with time and productivity and, you know, also, I think we should just mention that, like, when I say time and productivity, like, I am not, like, one of those productivity bros that's like, let's do all the things all the time.
[:[00:09:45] Alexis Haselberger: Like, that is not what this is about.
[:[00:09:47] Alexis Haselberger: But I realized that, that that was something I could help people with.
[:[00:09:53] Alexis Haselberger: And I had been in consultative roles for a really long time.
[:[00:10:08] Alexis Haselberger: And so I thought, okay, well, maybe I can be a coach.
[:[00:10:11] Alexis Haselberger: Maybe I can help people through this.
[:[00:10:16] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:10:19] Alexis Haselberger: And then once it once, you know, everything was starting to wind down, I just started putting some pieces together.
[:[00:10:36] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:10:38] Intro: Say it again for people in the back.
[:[00:10:41] Alexis Haselberger: Yes.
[:[00:10:42] Alexis Haselberger: Like, you like, you gotta have some place to point people.
[:[00:10:45] Alexis Haselberger: Because that makes it it also kind of it makes it real in some way.
[:[00:10:49] Alexis Haselberger: So I did that, and then I started thinking, okay.
[:[00:10:56] Alexis Haselberger: So I just started actually writing, and I started writing best practices documents about everything I thought I knew.
[:[00:11:03] Alexis Haselberger: Like, everything I thought I had thoughts about.
[:[00:11:18] Alexis Haselberger: And then I eventually was able to start putting that together into groups to form out the curriculum of my coaching program or my first iteration thereof.
[:[00:11:27] Intro: Side note, what, do you view meetings as and not I mean, obviously, anything that's all inclusive and says everything is great or everything is terrible.
[:[00:11:40] Intro: But Yeah.
[:[00:11:46] Alexis Haselberger: I think we have to flip the the, the kind of default is the way I think about it.
[:[00:11:56] Alexis Haselberger: And, you know, since the beginning of the pandemic, meetings are up 250% across the board.
[:[00:12:01] Alexis Haselberger: And so I think that most meetings are not well run, and most meetings actually probably shouldn't be meetings in the first place.
[:[00:12:09] Alexis Haselberger: So there are a couple of right?
[:[00:12:16] Alexis Haselberger: So the way that I think about it is, like, if you're trying to schedule a meeting with someone, if you're like, oh, I need to meet with someone.
[:[00:12:27] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:12:36] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:12:37] Alexis Haselberger: If you're like, yep.
[:[00:12:39] Alexis Haselberger: I know exactly what I need.
[:[00:12:41] Alexis Haselberger: Then the next question is, do I actually need to do this in real time with someone, or could I send them an email or a text message and still get the information I need?
[:[00:12:52] Alexis Haselberger: If so, do that.
[:[00:12:55] Alexis Haselberger: I've thought through it.
[:[00:12:56] Alexis Haselberger: It can't be done.
[:[00:13:01] Alexis Haselberger: That's when you would schedule a meeting.
[:[00:13:03] Intro: If if it wasn't recorded, I would ask you to say it again.
[: :: [:[00:13:26] Intro: That's what I just told my wife today.
[:[00:13:33] Intro: They should have a place they can go to find that out.
[:[00:13:36] Intro: You know, where we're all on the same page already because you have a system in place.
[:[00:13:47] Intro: You know, let's check the status on this or this or this, and then answer that back to me.
[:[00:13:52] Intro: I I just I know it's a little sidebar there from our conversation, but I was thinking about that pretty heavily today.
[:[00:13:58] Alexis Haselberger: I think you're totally right.
[:[00:14:11] Alexis Haselberger: And one you know, sometimes they have 40 hours of recurring meetings a week.
[:[00:14:16] Alexis Haselberger: And then they're, like, wondering how they're not getting enough done or, like, why they're working at 11 PM.
[:[00:14:22] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:14:26] Alexis Haselberger: And just like you said around status updates, I think status update meetings and informational only, like, one way type type of presentation meetings, like, these should not be meetings.
[:[00:14:41] Alexis Haselberger: Great.
[:[00:14:43] Alexis Haselberger: They can speed it up if they want to.
[:[00:14:51] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:14:53] Intro: I mean, it's a great point.
[:[00:15:01] Intro: Or at the very least, as you said, if you're over scheduling your meetings, I mean, I assume that something you teach people is to allot a certain amount of time for these meetings and then a certain amount of time for the work to occur after that.
[:[00:15:18] Intro: I know one thing that we like to do here at BP that I think is pretty, I would say, efficient is that most of the meetings we have are working meetings, where work is getting done during that meeting.
[:[00:15:31] Intro: Yesterday, you could say that I was in a meeting from 9:30 AM until about 3:30 PM, And what we did was just work on a project together, you know, and it included several pieces of information that we needed to talk about together, discuss, talk through, like, plans for the future that we had to make, and then the rest of it was building this project.
[:[00:15:54] Intro: It went really well as far as Mhmm.
[:[00:15:58] Intro: We got all the work done, something that's been on our plate for a long time because we're both ADHD.
[:[00:16:03] Intro: Getting us together is like 2 blind squirrels trying to find each other.
[:[00:16:07] Intro: And so we finally got to sit down, get together, hammer out all that stuff, and then get the work done while we're there.
[:[00:16:16] Intro: My laptop's gonna be on my lap at 11 o'clock at night, and I'm gonna be working until midnight, 1 AM.
[:[00:16:33] Alexis Haselberger: Yeah.
[:[00:16:34] Alexis Haselberger: And I think that sounds like a working session, not necessarily a meeting.
[:[00:16:38] Alexis Haselberger: Like, I would I would count those differently.
[:[00:16:41] Intro: I think it's kind of intentionally scheduled that way so that instead of just because there were meeting topics that I would say probably most people traditionally would just, hey.
[:[00:16:56] Intro: And then after that, you know, everyone had their individual tasks of, okay.
[:[00:17:05] Intro: And it was like, okay.
[:[00:17:11] Intro: And Yep.
[: :: [:[00:17:15] Alexis Haselberger: Yeah.
[:[00:17:15] Alexis Haselberger: I think there's a lot there's and also, I mean, just as a random aside, if you're both if you both have ADHD, another reason that that probably works well is the concept of body doubling for folks who have ADHD, where just having somebody next to you, even if they're not doing what you're doing, is gonna be much easier to actually make that thing happen.
[:[00:17:34] Intro: I mean, I I could not agree anymore.
[:[00:17:42] Intro: It's like, I have to do this task.
[:[00:17:45] Intro: But Yep.
[:[00:17:53] Intro: Like, hey.
[:[00:17:54] Intro: Okay.
[:[00:18:00] Intro: Like, did you need me or did you really just need somebody there as, like, your support system, you know?
[:[00:18:06] Intro: But it works.
[:[00:18:09] Intro: Hey.
[:[00:18:12] Intro: So I know that you have some really awesome accolades.
[:[00:18:22] Intro: So we know this is a big topic.
[:[00:18:32] Intro: Like, this is something that people actually value.
[:[00:18:44] Intro: You know, all of those that are on your resume, why are they hiring you, and why should I, as a small business or as a medium sized business, consider hiring you as well?
[:[00:18:55] Alexis Haselberger: Great question.
[:[00:18:59] Alexis Haselberger: And I also work, you know, for individuals also.
[:[00:19:10] Alexis Haselberger: So both of those avenues work for me.
[:[00:19:15] Alexis Haselberger: So one way is that I do, really hands on workshops.
[:[00:19:21] Alexis Haselberger: We're gonna do a really targeted workshop.
[:[00:19:25] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:19:28] Alexis Haselberger: Like, what when should we schedule a meeting?
[:[00:19:32] Alexis Haselberger: What about recurring meetings?
[:[00:19:36] Alexis Haselberger: We're gonna be practicing doing a meeting audit.
[:[00:19:44] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:19:50] Alexis Haselberger: We're doing that altogether virtually.
[:[00:19:52] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:19:57] Alexis Haselberger: And so I have group coaching and I have individual coaching.
[:[00:20:07] Alexis Haselberger: And what I do with that is I I take everybody through an arc.
[:[00:20:12] Alexis Haselberger: Everybody thinks that their issues are unique to them, but they're not.
[:[00:20:18] Alexis Haselberger: The reality is we're all we're all struggling with a lot of things.
[:[00:20:28] Alexis Haselberger: Yes.
[: :: [:[00:20:18] Alexis Haselberger: The reality is we're all we're all struggling with a lot of things.
[:[00:20:28] Alexis Haselberger: Yes.
[:[00:20:30] Alexis Haselberger: So I'm gonna run through it.
[:[00:20:33] Intro: real quick.
[:[00:20:34] Alexis Haselberger: Yeah.
[:[00:20:35] Alexis Haselberger: So I start with knowing yourself better exactly as you are.
[:[00:20:46] Alexis Haselberger: And knowing about ourselves helps us to build sustainable strategies that we're not gonna have as much trouble hanging on to.
[:[00:20:54] Alexis Haselberger: They're gonna be easier for us to build.
[:[00:20:57] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:20:59] Alexis Haselberger: Like, some people are morning people, some people are night people.
[:[00:21:04] Alexis Haselberger: But, like, for me, I'm a night person.
[:[00:21:08] Alexis Haselberger: I have certainly tried many, many times to become a morning person.
[:[00:21:13] Alexis Haselberger: Waking up is the hardest part of my day, has been the hardest part of my day since I was 5 years old.
[:[00:21:19] Intro: Same.
[:[00:21:32] Alexis Haselberger: Ain't gonna happen.
[:[00:21:33] Alexis Haselberger: Never gonna happen.
[:[00:21:35] Alexis Haselberger: Not for lack of trying, but just because eventually, like, I can do it for a short amount of time, and then I snap back to who I am.
[:[00:21:41] Alexis Haselberger: So there's a lot of things like that where we wanna find out who are you actually so that we don't have to work so hard.
[:[00:21:47] Alexis Haselberger: So that we can build strategies around you.
[:[00:21:51] Alexis Haselberger: So, like, what are you doing for a whole week from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to bed so that we can look at it and ask questions.
[:[00:21:58] Alexis Haselberger: Around yeah.
[:[00:22:01] Alexis Haselberger: What are you spending too much time on?
[:[00:22:04] Alexis Haselberger: How well are your actions aligned with your goals and your values and all of that?
[:[00:22:10] Alexis Haselberger: So task management is is time management.
[:[00:22:13] Alexis Haselberger: It's about what are the things that we need to do, where are we keeping track of them, and how do we keep that engine rolling?
[:[00:22:21] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:22:34] Alexis Haselberger: And so we're gonna build a single trusted system so that everything goes in one place and that we can prioritize lane prioritize linearly.
[:[00:22:46] Alexis Haselberger: What do we say no to?
[:[00:22:51] Alexis Haselberger: How do we prioritize in time?
[:[00:22:57] Alexis Haselberger: What are the things and when are we gonna do them?
[:[00:23:05] Alexis Haselberger: Like, that's just part of it.
[:[00:23:06] Alexis Haselberger: We're not gonna, like, quote, do it all or get it all done.
[:[00:23:19] Alexis Haselberger: Because there's always John to be things you didn't do.
[:[00:23:24] Alexis Haselberger: Sorry, sorry.
[:[00:23:27] Intro: Like, you couldn't be any more correct about Yeah.
[:[00:23:36] Intro: I'm sure that you love that.
[:[00:23:38] Intro: It's on all of my profiles for Gmail, everything.
[:[00:23:42] Intro: But I also have the notebook.
[:[00:23:47] Intro: I have, you know, a scatter desk of this was this project.
[:[00:23:52] Intro: Like, the notebook is a big one for me where it's just page after page of I'm writing everything John, and this is what I need to do.
[:[00:24:01] Intro: And it's like, I guess I should say it was a problem for me.
[:[00:24:15] Intro: As well as just the overall tracking client for client, all of that stuff.
[:[00:24:25] Intro: But Yeah.
[:[00:24:26] Intro: It's a lot of it winds up in my brain too.
[:[00:24:30] Intro: Right.
[:[00:24:33] Intro: Mhmm.
[:[00:24:35] Intro: It's like when you and I tell ourselves, I'll get gas in the morning before I have to head to the office or to somewhere else.
[:[00:24:48] Intro: And I do that to myself all the time.
[:[00:24:52] Intro: Or you know what?
[:[00:24:55] Intro: I'll remember it.
[:[00:24:57] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:25:03] Intro: You should have put it in your calendar.
[:[00:25:05] Alexis Haselberger: And it's just well, don't call yourself an idiot, but, also, it's I think this is, like, prioritizing our future selves, and humans are bad at that.
[:[00:25:12] Alexis Haselberger: We are like, today, I always say, like, 8 AM you and 8 PM you are totally different people.
[:[00:25:19] Alexis Haselberger: 8 AM you is, like, great.
[:[00:25:26] Alexis Haselberger: And 8 PM, you is like, whew, the kids are Kelley?
[:[00:25:30] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:25:37] Alexis Haselberger: I, like, I am going to opt for the the shorter version of the pain instead of the longer version of the pain.
[:[00:25:43] Alexis Haselberger: It's like, yeah, it is painful to, like, put something in your system right at the moment, but it is more painful to not do it.
[:[00:25:52] Intro: Like, right now, I'm on a weight loss journey.
[:[00:25:54] Intro: So at the time of recording this, I've lost about £25 give or take.
[:[00:25:58] Intro: Just depends on the day, the time, and what I had to eat for lunch today.
[:[00:26:09] Intro: It was like, we are each other's accountability.
[:[00:26:12] Intro: Let's work out more.
[:[00:26:19] Intro: I'm like, yeah, God, I don't wanna go to the gym.
[:[00:26:23] Intro: And you said you wanted to do this after work.
[:[00:26:35] Intro: Like, this is John Kelly now.
[:[00:26:38] Intro: I kinda wanna just pop open some ice cream and watch Blacklist on Netflix.
[:[00:26:42] Intro: There's something else we can do.
[:[00:26:44] Alexis Haselberger: Yes.
[:[00:26:45] Alexis Haselberger: Totally.
[:[00:26:46] Alexis Haselberger: And so so, yeah, I mean, I'll quickly kinda run through the rest.
[:[00:26:53] Alexis Haselberger: So some really high ROI, low effort, high reward types of planning, like quick daily planning and quick week planning.
[:[00:27:02] Alexis Haselberger: So that, basically, we wanna separate the planning from the doing.
[: :: [:[00:27:11] Alexis Haselberger: Or if you've ever been staring at your computer and being like, oh, I have this half an hour.
[:[00:27:16] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:27:21] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:27:34] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:27:44] Alexis Haselberger: Instead of looking at your calendar and being like, well, I actually have 2 and a half hours, and here's what fits Intro this.
[:[00:27:52] Alexis Haselberger: We also wanna be able to disconnect from work at the end of the day, and it's really hard to do that if you don't have a plan for the next day.
[:[00:27:58] Alexis Haselberger: And it also you have to use all that activation energy in the morning if you don't have a plan because then you sit there for the first half half an hour looking at your email, looking at your tasks, and being like, okay.
[:[00:28:10] Alexis Haselberger: But if we plan in advance, then we just get to start the day rolling.
[:[00:28:15] Alexis Haselberger: Like I mentioned, we get everybody to inbox 0 and have a way to stay there on all of their different inboxes that doesn't involve spending all your time in messaging.
[:[00:28:25] Alexis Haselberger: So just like you mentioned with the the gym.
[:[00:28:27] Alexis Haselberger: Like, there's there's motivation and there's willpower, and those do not a habit build.
[:[00:28:33] Alexis Haselberger: And so I teach science backed habit strategies that help us with that.
[:[00:28:45] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:28:52] Alexis Haselberger: So lots of different habit strategies, which also are gonna vary based on what we learned about you in the beginning, because some strategies are gonna work really well for you and others won't.
[:[00:29:02] Alexis Haselberger: So these these things like outsourcing, delegation, batch processing, templates.
[:[00:29:12] Alexis Haselberger: And then lastly, we end on focus.
[:[00:29:21] Alexis Haselberger: No.
[:[00:29:23] Alexis Haselberger: Your wife's not there.
[:[00:29:25] Alexis Haselberger: Your phone's not even there.
[:[00:29:27] Alexis Haselberger: You sit down.
[:[00:29:30] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:29:32] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:29:36] Intro: I don't have my kids.
[:[00:29:37] Intro: I would just go
[:[00:29:39] Alexis Haselberger: And so we also talk about strategies and teach people strategies so that they can sort of create focus out of thin air when you need to because sometimes you need to.
[:[00:29:50] Alexis Haselberger: That is what I take people through so that at the end of working with me, they have a working set of productivity systems that work pretty well in their life.
[: :: [:[00:30:16] Intro: I mean, you know, that's that's the hard part too is there are a lot of people out there that have valid excuses.
[:[00:30:24] Intro: My listeners know I've got a full time job.
[:[00:30:29] Intro: I'm also a business owner of not a startup, but still very heavily growing phase of a company.
[:[00:30:44] Intro: You know?
[:[00:30:48] Intro: And it is easy too to blame that stuff, to let that be the scapegoat and say, well, you know, I've got a lot going on.
[:[00:30:55] Intro: And it's like, yeah, it's not really an acceptable reason to not be productive and squared away, but it does make it more difficult sometimes.
[:[00:31:04] Alexis Haselberger: Kelley, and also, it's I think so much of this is just about choices.
[:[00:31:08] Alexis Haselberger: It's like, you know, we're not gonna be able to do everything all at once.
[:[00:31:20] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:31:31] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:31:33] Alexis Haselberger: Always.
[:[00:31:36] Alexis Haselberger: Like, you and I, we could both work every single day for 18 hours a day for the rest of our lives, and there would still be more work tomorrow.
[:[00:31:44] Alexis Haselberger: Always.
[:[00:31:56] Alexis Haselberger: Will you be learning to, like, throw pottery and learning to play the guitar and having, like, 3 hours a day to read all at the same time while you also have a full time job in children?
[:[00:32:07] Alexis Haselberger: Can you make room for a couple hours a day to do things that you want to do?
[:[00:32:14] Intro: Absolutely.
[:[00:32:19] Intro: If I'm not, feel free to to tell me I'm wrong.
[:[00:32:32] Intro: And then the 1 on 1 coaching is gonna be more of the I'm not only going to teach you how to do that and fuel you with the motivation and ability to do it, but I'm also going to kinda make those suggestions and, you know, more of a done with you type strategy.
[:[00:32:49] Alexis Haselberger: Yeah.
[:[00:32:54] Alexis Haselberger: Like, you as a person couldn't show up at a work I mean, very occasionally, but, like, that's not a huge part of what I do.
[:[00:33:03] Alexis Haselberger: You're right.
[:[00:33:05] Alexis Haselberger: We're gonna be interactive the whole time because, like, nobody wants to sit around listening to somebody talk for, you know, a long time when they can't participate in something like that.
[:[00:33:15] Alexis Haselberger: We're, like, you know, really implementing this stuff.
[:[00:33:23] Alexis Haselberger: And it is, like, the like, when we're doing task systems, like, you're you're screen sharing with me, and I'm like, tell me about that.
[:[00:33:32] Alexis Haselberger: Okay.
[:[00:33:34] Alexis Haselberger: When can you actually do it?
[:[00:33:37] Alexis Haselberger: I'm like, well, it didn't happen yesterday.
[:[00:33:39] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:33:45] Alexis Haselberger: And I run a group coaching program as well that still gets some of that too because it's like, there will be a a volunteer who's gonna share their screen, and we're all kind of chiming in chiming in there as well.
[:[00:33:56] Intro: So are you doing any type of education online, whether it be, you know, go to the website and find out more information, go to YouTube and watch some of my videos, you know, social media?
[:[00:34:07] Alexis Haselberger: Yeah, I am.
[:[00:34:14] Alexis Haselberger: People can certainly join that.
[:[00:34:16] Alexis Haselberger: I have a YouTube channel.
[:[00:34:21] Alexis Haselberger: So for people who are different learning in different modalities or just want some double doubling up there.
[:[00:34:28] Alexis Haselberger: And then I do have 3 online courses and a 4th one that is going to be released next week, actually.
[:[00:34:38] Alexis Haselberger: And so you can either access them as a person, you know, you can just go buy a course.
[:[00:34:44] Alexis Haselberger: Or if you have a Udemy for business subscription as many companies do, then you can just access those as part of your subscription.
[:[00:34:55] Alexis Haselberger: I have another one on hybrid leadership.
[:[00:35:00] Alexis Haselberger: I have another one on how to work from home productively, and that was a direct result of 2020 and Yeah.
[:[00:35:08] Alexis Haselberger: How do I do this?
[:[00:35:11] Alexis Haselberger: And then I have another one coming out, next week about, that's actually done with a colleague who is a parenting coach, and it's about how to survive and thrive as a working parent.
[:[00:35:24] Intro: So if there's like one thing, if you could have the entire world's attention, and it's like, this is maybe the one thing I've seen in every person I've talked to or the, you know, the one message you would wanna spread to the world and just kinda get across to everybody.
[:[00:35:40] Alexis Haselberger: Can I have 2?
[:[00:35:42] Intro: Let's do it.
[:[00:35:43] Alexis Haselberger: So the first one is going to be don't rely on your memory.
[:[00:35:48] Alexis Haselberger: Our memories are not a great place.
[:[00:35:54] Alexis Haselberger: Our memories are not a great place for storing information.
[:[00:35:59] Alexis Haselberger: But for everything you have to do, externalize it.
[:[00:36:07] Alexis Haselberger: Is something gonna drop?
[:[00:36:10] Alexis Haselberger: Etcetera.
[:[00:36:15] Alexis Haselberger: Like, you do not need to know that an email has just come in.
[:[00:36:21] Alexis Haselberger: You do not need to know that, like, your favorite TikToker has a new video up.
[:[00:36:30] Alexis Haselberger: And there are studies that show that every time we get distracted or interrupted, even when it's our own brains, like, we're working on something and then we're like, oh, my kids' shoes are getting too small.
[:[00:36:42] Alexis Haselberger: Even when we do that, that it takes us John average 23 minutes to refocus.
[:[00:36:49] Alexis Haselberger: Not 23 seconds, 23 minutes.
[:[00:36:51] Alexis Haselberger: And so if you remove 5 notifications a day, right, you're getting back, like, an hour, over an hour.
[:[00:36:57] Alexis Haselberger: Like, oh, you know, an hour and a half.
[: :: [:[00:37:04] Intro: I'm sorry, I asked, you know, because I have FOMO.
[:[00:37:11] Intro: So I am like the, I would probably make your skin crawl if you look at my screen time on my iPhone, because you would see how many hours I spend on certain applications every single week and be like, John, you don't need any of my classes.
[:[00:37:34] Intro: Like, this is not you're not telling me something I haven't heard before.
[:[00:37:39] Intro: I'm not discounting you.
[:[00:37:41] Intro: I'm just saying, like, I know these things.
[:[00:37:45] Intro: But if you looked at my screen time, you'd be like, well, if you delete TikTok and Facebook and Instagram and, you know, like, all this stuff, then you would have instantly, I don't know, probably 20 hours a week right back in my time.
[:[00:38:00] Alexis Haselberger: You're not gonna you're not gonna delete TikTok, and neither am I.
[:[00:38:03] Alexis Haselberger: I like TikTok too.
[:[00:38:08] Alexis Haselberger: Right?
[:[00:38:13] Intro: Yes.
[:[00:38:17] Alexis Haselberger: It's like, with TikTok, I know I don't have self Intro, so I only let myself access it on the weekend.
[:[00:38:25] Alexis Haselberger: And and also, if you turn off the notifications, then you won't have as much FOMO because the FOMO comes from seeing that there's something there and then having to resist.
[:[00:38:39] Alexis Haselberger: And so you don't need to get rid of it all entirely.
[:[00:38:45] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:38:53] Intro: And see that it's not just it's not just you being my guest expert on this subject and just saying, like, this is a really cool, profound idea that I have.
[:[00:39:16] Intro: Like that's what they're doing.
[:[00:39:19] Intro: And I've actually a lot of people like somebody in my neighborhood actually told me that.
[:[00:39:27] Intro: So I don't get your phone call, your text message.
[:[00:39:33] Intro: But other than that, it's not notifying me that I need to look.
[:[00:39:40] Intro: And that's what happened was like, I called him at like 5 PM or something.
[:[00:39:51] Intro: I'm not with my kids anymore currently.
[:[00:39:56] Intro: And I respect that.
[:[00:39:58] Intro: I'm like, Hey, that's, that's really smart.
[:[00:40:01] Intro: Maybe I will get there sometime.
[:[00:40:04] Intro: But it's definitely something I totally agree with you on.
[:[00:40:07] Alexis Haselberger: Well, you should think of it as an experiment and not as a model of willpower.
[:[00:40:11] Alexis Haselberger: It's like, try it for a week and see what happens.
[:[00:40:16] Alexis Haselberger: I don't have notifications on ever.
[:[00:40:28] Alexis Haselberger: But I only did I did that begrudgingly.
[:[00:40:32] Alexis Haselberger: I only did that for safety reasons.
[:[00:40:36] Intro: I hear you.
[:[00:40:39] Intro: It's it's a really good idea.
[: :: [:[00:40:45] Intro: I've I've got so much good information here, and I just, you know, I know you've got other commitments you'll have to get to at some point today, and I wanna be respectful of your time, especially since you're a stickler on productivity and efficiency.
[:[00:41:02] Intro: We're gonna put that in the show notes.
[:[00:41:07] Intro: So if they wanna learn from you, we will absolutely send them your way.
[:[00:41:11] Alexis Haselberger: Thank you.
[:[00:41:12] Alexis Haselberger: It's been a really fun conversation.
[:[00:41:14] Intro: Thank you so much for being a part of this and coming in and sharing your information with us today.
[:[00:41:22] Intro: Thank you, listeners, for tuning in to another episode of Small Business Origins.
[:[00:41:32] Intro: So thank you for taking time out of your day, hopefully, in a really good productive efficient manner so Alexis doesn't, like, hunt you down and find you and make you a customer one day.
[:[00:41:42] Intro: I I hope that you do become a customer because I know this is something we can all benefit from.
[:[00:41:48] Intro: And, you know, like I say, every single episode, it doesn't take anything to like, to share, to just check out the content that Alexis has online and learn from her absolutely free already, and then maybe sign up for a course, maybe sign up for some coaching or tell your your boss, hey, we need to hire her to come in and do this workshop for all of our people.
[:[00:42:11] Intro: It's been another week, another entrepreneur, and another great episode.
[:[00:42:15] Intro: And as always, stay beefy, my friends.
[:[00:42:24] John Kelley: I love an origin story.
[:[00:42:29] John Kelley: Subscribe and share with a friend.
[:[00:42:32] John Kelley: They're gonna love it.
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