We have made it to the finale of Supernatural Season 8, Episode 23 "Sacrifice" and that means its time for SPN Season 8 Trivia! Can you beat Diana's triumphant score?

Chapters00:00

Introduction and Season Finale

14:46

Jodie's Date with Crowley

23:37

Negotiating with Crowley

26:34

The Plan to Capture Metatron

30:53

Sam's Confession and the Purification of Blood

37:47

Trivia Fun: Testing Knowledge of Season 8

47:34

Unresolved Storylines and a Lack of Closure

57:03

The Gates of Hell and Chaos in Heaven

59:08

Sam's Dying and Unanswered Questions

01:06:08

Enjoyable Elements and Complaints

01:08:06

Missing the Meta Episodes

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap Podcast. I'm Diana. And it's the season finale!

And I'm Liz.

Woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo

Yes.

Spoiler alert!

I would have been so pissed at the F -bike watching this in real time in season 8. I mean, how many people flipped a coffee table? At the end of this one.

Well, it was questioned, you know, this is at the time where people start going, is it going to happen again? Even eight seasons is a long number of seasons for a show.

It is. It's a long run. Mm hmm. It is.

much less how many times did this turn out. So, well, what have you been up to, young lady?

Well, since we've since we've recorded last, I have made a little trip to New Orleans for work. Never mattered. I appreciate that. Good old mouth trumpet. It was a good, you know, it's a mouth trumpet. Always sounds dirty. but it was a work trip, but it was good. And like even in a work trip in New Orleans, it was I still stayed up too late and had too many beverages and ate really good food.

Where's my trumpet?

and then came home and lost my voice and then worked and then got sick so that I was down. But now I'm back. I wasn't that bad, but you know how I handle the heat pretty well. I know. I think it was warm. Don't get me wrong, but I didn't like melt ever. But I also wore like I didn't wear I was I think only once did I wear like pants. I was wearing like shorts and skirts and stuff. So I know.

How sweaty were you?

No, you fucking bitch. I like hot.

You dirty trollop! Just not wearing pants? Ewww!

No pants. No pants. I mean, you're used to me not putting my titties away, which is a whole other story. But but now so now it was really good. And then, yeah. And now I'm just looking forward to this weekend. We got fun this weekend. Yeah. I know you've got a busy one. How about you? You've got stories.

There's so much happening this week.

I went on a pilgrimage to a former site of a gathering of people who all had everyone dress alike and they may have been a cult. I don't know. I went to San Diego and I went and researched the cult. Well, I was really researching Catherine Tingley who was a...

A society. Sure.

leader of a society.

society, we'll say society. And anyways, our research was really great. The people at the museum and the San Diego History Center were fucking awesome. They had some of the artwork from a lot of the people who lived there and they also had a lot of parts of the old building. Then I went and like picked up my friend and we went to this. So where everything was for the society was in

Museum and the Hacienda U .S. History Center.

Then I went and picked up my friend and we went to this. So where everything was for the society was in point and low mode, just the southern line, the tip of the tip of the San Diego. And what used to be that.

Point Loma, which is the southern tip of the San Diego. And what used to be that society is now a Nazarian university. And so we pull up there and most of the buildings have burnt down or been destroyed, moved, whatever. So we roll up and there is a security guard there.

Right.

And he was like, can I help you? And I'm like, we're here to see the turtle steps. And he was like, what? And so I just kept talking nonsense and then got inside. And so there is a folklore about this house that used to be Katherine Tingley's house. It is now the communications department of this university that the steps inside the building are very shallow so that when she reincarnates as a turtle,

There is a folklore about this house that used to be half of Tumul's house. It is now the communications department of this university. That the steps inside the building are very shallow so that when she reincarnates as a turtle or a tur -

or turtle spirit. I was not quite sure on it was turtle or turtle spirit that she can get up the stairs. So the security guard is like very confused. It's like it's communication building. He's like, what? I'm like, whatever. Bye. And just like, I just drove on into the year and he didn't chase me because whatever. What the fuck are you going to say to the turtle lady? I don't know. So it's just like, and so yeah.

You said you sounded like you knew where you're going that's all that's half the battle

It's social engineering how you get backstage or whatever. I just do what I want until somebody tells me I can't and so we went we parked and we walked around and We found like one of the buildings that we knew was one of the original things because these buildings used to have these giant purple Domes on them and they were amazing. You can see them through like a lot of San Diego. They were just really really cool Incandescent things usually neat and I

see what I want until somebody tells me I can't. And so we went and we heard.

And we found like one of the buildings that we made was one of the original things. These buildings used to have these giant purple domes on them. And they are amazing. We see them through a lot of same -day videos. It was really cool. It was incandescent. But again, we're supposed to have a breakdown, but there was one building that was left. And then so we're just over both there and our phone is just like.

But again, like I said, most of them burned down, but there was one building that was left. And then so we're just, but we're both there and our phones just like, my friend and I just like Googling turtle steps. So just trying to figure out where the phone, finally like we find out like what it's called like today. And so we drive over and I'm just like parking like, I'm a normal universe. Hello fellow students.

I'm just like Googling turtle steps. I'm just trying to figure out, but I'm finally letting you find out what it's called today. And so we drive over and I'm just like parking like, I'm a normal universe and hello fellow students. And.

And so we like what somebody's like having a meeting in this building we just cuz we found it We just walked right in and somebody's having a meeting in this building. We're like not turtle steps and so we found them and they were really great and they were very deep and they were very shallow and we if we go up them and like We get to the top of the stairs and then I hear hello

We found them and we saw them. And so there's how he was reading this whole thing. And so we found them and they were really great and they were very deep and they were very shallow. And we went to the top of the stairs and then I hear hello.

And I look at her like, man, there's somebody working in an office in there. And she's like, can I help you? And I'm like, we're just here for the turtle stairs. I'm just like, I'm not going to bother lying. And then she's like, my God, the turtle stairs? And then she just whips out this.

Bitch (06:08.13)

paper that has the walking, the Loma land walking tour of all the different things that used to be a part of the cult that they print out. Then she had it in her desk. And yeah. And so she had that to give to me and her name was silly. And if you're listening, Lily, I don't remember, I told you that my podcast and we talked about podcasts, but she was really awesome. And so she gave us this great information. So we found like other things on campus that we wouldn't probably have found otherwise, but.

Amazing.

So that was a really great time. And I said, like, I got a really, that was amazing. And then I drove up to Long Beach and I went to stay on the Queen Mary and I did their paranormal tour, which is a two hour walking tour, which was really, it was, it was really informative and pretty like accurate for the stories. I love like all of the paranormal investigator names. Like they'll drop is like, they go to like a different place. Like,

It's amazing.

Of course we got big ends in there and then and then let the ghosts and Advent ghost adventurer guys are in there ladies No ghost facers, but you never know There was what there are some things of I do question about the structure like we went to so there were a number of pools that used to be on the ship and one of them is one of the most haunted places on there that is called the first -class pool and Is no longer does no longer has water in it. It just has

yeah.

The snow water has water in it, it just has ghosts that hang around it. And what's really terrifying though is as we were on the tour to go see it, only like five to six of us were allowed to go out to take pictures because they were framed stretchily and it was just gonna hold up and some of it was just gonna fall through. There's like four stories of shit underneath that.

ghosts that hang around it. And what's really terrifying though is as we were on this tour to go see it, only like five to six of us were allowed to go out to take pictures because they were framed structurally and wouldn't get a hold up and someone was just going to fall through. And there's like four stories of ship underneath that. And I don't there's a lot of there are like there are a number of people that have died on that ship. And I don't

Pass! Pass!

want to be one of them. I was like, that is rather, I am not afraid of the ghosts. I am however, afraid of falling through the floor now. Thank you very much. But that was a really, really cool experience. And so hilarious to me how many families are there to ghost hunt now. It is just a family adventure.

Right?

There are little kids that were there like, I'm gonna punch a ghost. And that was like the kid that was yelling he was gonna punch a ghost. I did wanna carry him around with me. You can come along, I'll teach you. You can punch it. It was like, but you can't punch all the ghosts. Some ghosts are nice, you don't know. Like, don't assault a ghost.

You're like, you can come along. We can hang out.

And then you so after that we went and so so that was I'd spent the night in the Queen Mary No, no hauntings just blisters, but it was still a really cool place There are so many stairs and just be prepared if you go on any of the tours there but it's up and down a lot of stairs and maybe if you dress like you're planning on haunting the ship and it may be difficult then to because you've got to like pick up your dress and

Yeah. He said so many stairs.

then you've got your, you know, your wedge sandals on that are shut up. Okay, whatever. I looked really pretty. Someone told me, someone said I looked beautiful.

I saw a picture and you did.

Yeah. And so then the next day I went up to Pasadena and there's there's someone who I was researching there and I did go yesterday and looked through for their houses, but they're pretty much all like they don't exist anymore from the built overs. It's like, here's I can go see the streets where you lived. But you know, so and I also went to a punk rock festival that had over 20 ,000 people in it and it was terrifying, but fun.

There's someone who I was researching there and I did go yesterday and went through four of their houses. I don't know if they're on the system anymore. I could go to the streets where you lived. And I also went to a punk rock festival that had a routine that...

fun. You lived, you saw some good bands.

I lived. I lived.

I did. I mean, most of them, I'm so jaded now. So jaded. It gave Hav... I wasn't that impressed.

Noooo

It was a lot of strutting. He struts a lot.

I wasn't, I mean it was also just like, it was so big I couldn't like, I didn't feel like a lot rocking out with it. I also realized that I don't, like besides the Stooges, like I never really listened to a lot of Iggy Pop. Like there's a couple of songs, you know, but I was like, yeah, like he was fine. He was great. Not this. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Like I stand by the Iggy Pop is a legend and a legacy, and I would go see him given the opportunity in the right environment. But I'm also not like Iggy Pop. That's not me. I'm not like a massive fan. Yeah.

I thought he was amazing. I thought the show he put on was incredible. However, maybe not my rock and roll jam when I'm really fucking tired after having just, I'm just old and just tired of being in the sun. And it was the end of a long week and I probably, yeah, I shouldn't. Sometimes I make the mistakes of front loading things before a festival and then by the time the festival gets there, then I'm just like worn out. And I'm like, bands, yay.

Ciao!

Jerk (10:59.758)

I know, but you and your festivals. I'm teasing.

But I didn't, I don't feel like the trip was wasted because the oral histories I read were fantastic. I found out lots of great things. I found out, you know, that Catherine Tingley probably was a bit of a monster, but nobody really, people really liked her. I don't know, oral histories are so fun though. I enjoy reading people's talking about, about their, about growing up and stuff.

And they haven't been digitized, so there is no other way for me to read them. I'm the only person who's read these in a while. I thought that was cool.

That's awesome. Awesome. All right. That's all right. It's it's it's we both had a lot to share and we are going into the end of the season and it's a thing. So. New show. You'll.

Anyways, so our intro went very long this morning.

You're not allowed to share.

Yeah, also Jensen Ackles has a new show. He does Countdown, which will be a 13 episode prime video series created by Derek Haas. And it follows a suspicious murder and broad daylight, which leads to LAPD officer Mark Meacham, Jensen Ackles, being recruited to join a secret task force of undercover agents from all branches of law enforcement to investigate.

So that should be a thing that happens. Yeah, I'm glad he's working. Maybe, yeah. Maybe sing a theme on the shows or pick it up, but anyhow, so let us get into talking about what we're here to talk about, which is season eight, episode 23. Sacrifice. Now, according to the Wiki, that is the title of the ninth track from the album, Book of Dreams, by the Steve Miller Band.

Yeah, good for him.

Yeah, keeping busy.

Sacrifice.

That's weird. Easy decision every day, any day.

but it's also the title track to Motorheads 1995 album Sacrifice. And if you're going to pick up the two, I'm like, why the fuck don't you pick Motorhead, you dumb bitch? Like, sorry, dude, I'm a dumb bitch. Like there is nothing to choose, but I'm just like, why would you, Steve Miller, ban Motorhead?

Yeah, and this was the season finale first air May 15th 2013. It was directed by Phil Scritchia and written by Jeremy

Yeah, of course we have our recap with our seasonal playing of Carry On My Wayward Son. It was a great one, it is. And I'm... The beheadings. The beheadings. It was just like beheadings, like a series of beheadings. It was great.

It's always so epic. So good. It's just edited. I think particularly the season. The white.

Yeah, it was edited very well.

Yeah. But we get, you know, we revisit all of our characters we've seen. We talk, you know, Purgatory. We've got a bunch of beheadings and then leading us up to where we are today. So.

So, we're left to the question of whether or not they're going to kick it in the ass. I don't know. Chances are the eight ball says.

Well, we

So we start off and we're in a restaurant and Jodi is getting a fruit drink.

Yeah, Sheriff Jodie Mills is having a cocktail delivered, appears to be a Cosmo, delivered to her by Nance, the waitress. And she's like, I didn't order this. And who sits down but Crowley. And she calls him Roderick is, yeah.

You lucky bitch.

Roderick, Roderick, it sounds like a rabbit. Roderick the rabbit.

And they are flirting up a storm.

Yeah, and he lays down a line about her at her picture. So we know that Jodie Mills has been on the dating apps and that is how she has found Roderick. So good for you that you are putting yourself out there. And she's also though, she is minimizing herself and she is just like, I'm just a small town girl. I'm like, you are a sheriff and like that can not be easy. It can not be an easy life for you, ma 'am. Like, no, you live off.

Yeah.

Yes.

No. And she looks and she looks fantastic, I'm just going to say. Yeah, fierce as fuck. And I'm like, that's like that was one of my house watch. I was like, fuck yeah. And your short hair, Jody, that's me too. Now I got my short hair now, too. Anyways. So and he's like he he gets her to talk about we share something we share loss.

And you like shoot zombies, Jodie. Like, you're just not a small town girl. And she looks fucking fierce.

And she has a flashback to losing her son and her husband. And he's like, I lost someone, too. And they're holding hands and she's fucking crying, which is never good on the first date like this, ma 'am, please. I know you're not good at this yet. Which is funny.

But she does say, it's not a date until I've cried. And I really wish that was not relatable. And I also wish I had her dress. That was a very fantastic color on her and would be on me. So when she goes to the bathroom to fix her makeup and saw it, thinking about the time that her kid got the munchies and ate his dad and then Sam had to shoot him.

Yeah, yeah. And while she's there putting on her lipstick and talking to her, giving herself a pap talk like you do. Yeah. Crowley has opened up his little bag of hexes and is doing a spell with her photo and a candle from the table. So.

also relatable.

Now, no Crowley, that's not cool. Why? Cause there's no hacks on the first date.

Because there's no way to look this way.

I was very proud of that. I sent that to Diana earlier.

You did. You did. And yeah, so but what is get Jodie start doing in the bathroom, gagging on her own blood. So this is fucking rude. This is fucking rude, Crowley. Fucking rude. Disrespectful.

not relatable. At least that's... it is. Like, that's not going to ruin a date. It really is. But his phone rings.

And I like Big Butts by Sir Mixolot is playing. That's his ringer. Well, you did. You don't anymore. But you did once upon a time.

I mean, you've got to have a ringtone. And, but also like, is that just, is that just as ringtone for the Winchesters? I don't know if that was specific. This Dean specific is all about.

I think it's Dean specific. That's my bet. I think this is a Dean specific. That's my bet. And Crowley is like, by the way, so Dean's calling Crowley and Crowley is like, you have less than a minute and before a dear attractive and slightly tipsy friend dies.

just start bargaining over tablets and Jodie's life and it's very almost corporate takeover -y or you know like what's the other thing or perhaps like negotiating for a surrender but it's just like what are you gonna get do do do there's like Jodie's fucking dying can you shut the fuck up and

Well, I mean, I get that but also like they couldn't get there in time. So I mean, they had to just do the best negotiation they could. But no, you're right. But I do like when they're negotiating and Dean wants the angel tablet and he's like a guy's like on what grounds he's like on the grounds that you're a douchebag and no douchebag should have that much power.

Yeah, but just the way that it shot. This is the way it shot.

Burn it down, burn, so that's exactly where I lay. I was just like, that just sounds like someone who wants to be burning stuff down with me. Anyway, so Jodie is still choking out.

Yeah, she's still choking out and Crowley insists that Dean say I surrender.

So we got some baby rolling down the road.

Yeah, and Kevin, it's Daman Dean are meeting Kevin in the woods on the side of the highway, digging under a sign for Dave and Paul's Chili Pot restaurant, which looks like it offers a lovely array of chilies. And I want to work on my chili game this winter. Now I'm inspired by this side.

Winter's like a while away. You can do chili during the summer.

I know. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's seasonal chilies you can figure out, but like I've not.

Well, chili barbecues and chili cook -off and things, weren't those outside? I don't know. But also there is a lovely giant devil on it and it's glorious. And the boys roll up, I think they're very sad that they didn't get to dig. I think they see the shovel and they're just like, they're just like, fuck, we missed the digging. This is what happens, Dean, you could have done faster, we missed the digging again. God.

That's true.

There is. Big devil making chili.

They're jealous. That's what we do. That's what we do.

But yes, Kevin buried the two pieces of the tablet underneath a sign with the devil painted on it. Just funny. So. Yeah, he puts it, but it's like all weird. Like, why would you put it together? I don't know. It just makes no sense. And Dean. Yeah, it wasn't like you had him in two locales. Like that'd be different.

Yeah, and he puts the tablet back together, but I don't know why. He does.

Cause they weren't like, they were buried next to each other. Okay.

But Dean gives Kevin a key to the secret lair and sends him to the bunker. And Kevin's like, don't worry, I can't. Yeah. And he tells that, and Dean's like, no keggers. And Kevin's like, don't worry, I don't have any friends. And we're like, this got sad. All my friends are dead. All my friends are dead.

Bunker, bunker.

All my friends are dead, all my friends are dead. So Kevin does still tell them that they're doing the right thing.

He does. After making everything a super bummer. So we cut to Houston, Texas. This does not look like much of Houston, Texas, but it's OK. Right. And.

Where is Miss Katie? I'm not sure what it is, but down to Cass and Mettaton.

they're talking and Castiel starts asking Metatron what God was like. And Metatron describes God as larger than life, gruff, bit of a sexist, but fair. And then and then continues on and then continues on their discussion about their trials that they're trying to achieve. So in reassuring Castiel that the Nephilim are monsters, they had to do that. But now.

Huh, explains a lot.

There's no reason for this. There's no, and it's just, ugh. But now we learn what our second trial is gonna be.

Done.

Yes, because we are going to go. Dwight Charles is working at Doc Marley's bar and he is.

It just sounds like boots.

Duckmore. And he's going to get smacked by Cupid and their next trial is to get Cupid's bow and there should be no killing involved. So Cassiel's relieved.

That doesn't sound but you're like, you know, there's gonna be a twist like it doesn't sound that bad, right? You just seem to get a bow. Like how terrible could that be? Just get a little fat little baby's bow. It'll be fine. So then we cut to a place that we haven't seen in a minute.

Doesn't sound that bad. That's it. No bit. No bit. Sure.

Yeah, go back to Sioux Falls, South Dakota in the scrap.

Yeah, and so like what, like the house has been blown up, right? We now remember that, but the cars are still there.

Bye.

Apparently and they've got new old cars. I'm very confused. Those are some I don't remember.

So is somebody just like taking over the junkyard? But okay, so we're there. We're like, no Bobby. And this is like one of the first like season finale since like season one, I think they didn't have Bobby in it. So I know it's like up there and like ones without him. So I just, at least like he's rep, I think like this kind of represents him.

Jerk (22:38.83)

Well...

Yeah, I guess that was their way of doing that. Makes sense. And then so Crowley and Sam and Dean are there and they're not really negotiating. They're negotiating how they're going to finalize their negotiations. Does that make sense? Like they're you show me yours. I'll show you mine. Bullshit with the tablets. And of course.

Then Crowley whips out his long scroll. He just whips it out and it goes on for miles. It just rolls on out.

Yes, he does. Long contract. And he's like, yeah, the summary is just that we're going to swap stones and you stop the trials forever. Ta -da. And they're like, hmm, yeah, it sounds like, by the way, and also Crowley's going to stop killing everyone that we've saved. Duh. And Crowley's like, agreed. But apparently Sam has to sign this, not Dean, because Sam is the one that's actually going through the trials.

Which kind of makes sense, it's he's me when it's gonna sign. So okay, we have that, but now we're gonna switch to heaven.

Yes, in Naomi's office and her angel Nathaniel is reporting that they have found Castiel in a drinking establishment in Houston with the scribe.

no, and we can't tell what her face I use is full of Botox and we don't know what Naomi is thinking. It's just, it's very, is this good or is this bad? We don't know what she's gonna do, but.

She's got, she looks very intense.

Yes, she's just intense. So then we cut from that and we go back to the junkyard.

Yeah. And Dean is reading the contract because he's not going to miss any of the fine print and he's going to read that motherfucker from start to finish. And Crowley makes fun of him because he moves his lips when he reads to himself.

No, no shaming on that. Look, at least he can read. Anyways, so, and he's also shaming them for putting emotions first.

Yeah. Above common sense. And right as they are about to sign Dean slaps a demonic handcuff on Crowley and he can't flick or teleport or smoke out.

But he can slap Dean around a little bit and they kind of slap each other a little bit and it's hot. Little softest. And then they inform him that you are the third.

They have a little slap fight.

Yeah. Back in Houston, Cassiel is reading personal ads because he's going to try to help Dwight find love faster.

At the bar.

And he's learned this from friends, because he's friends with friends who does this for a living. So he knows what he's doing, Metatron. Back the fuck up.

sure, and asks the bartender very uncomfortable questions. Like, are you looking for a partner in crime?

some role play, like domination. And he has the appropriate response, which is like, fucker, it's 10 a on a Tuesday.

He has the appropriate response, but is just like, fuckers, today I wanted to say. Yes, it's so funny. Expert delivery. And so they have, they get a couple of beers, but he's like, Metatron does call out like Castiel for not being subtle. So, but then who's there? no, Angel Henchmen and Naomi.

Angels have shown, no.

But good old Dwight Bartender's got a shotgun ready and shoots an angel. He's like, tells them to take it someplace out. But he gets smashed into the beer cooler, which isn't very nice. But Castiel tells them, you know, wants them. The angels are trying to take Metatron, not Castiel. They've been after Castiel this whole time, but now all they're interested in is Metatron, which is interesting.

And we like him more. We're like, fuck yeah!

Yeah, so we're like, what? Okay, and I think Cass is also like, what? Why don't you want me? Okay.

Take, let him go, take me, no wait, wait, you're gone with him, shit. That's kinda how that went.

Yep, and then, we have a lot of cuts in this. So then we cut to baby pulling up in a church.

Yeah, we found it. We have an abandoned church. Yay. And so it's Sam and Dean and Crowley and they have him changed to a chair in a devil's trap in the demonic handcuffs.

Well, they are spraying the Devil's Trap as they're there, which I think is a poor planning. Why was this not perfect? You clearly had the chair there. Why didn't you put the Devil's Trap? It doesn't have to be fresh. We know this. Why are you adding more time? They've also added a whole bunch more chains. I think they're just in Liz's Crowley's BDSM moment, his era. And so whips and chains are exciting everybody.

Poor planning.

I know it's

Well, they're gonna go outside and hang out at Trunk for a minute.

which is really disorganized and I am very disappointed into whoever let her fall into this disarray.

Well, Sam is prepping a bunch of oil and saying first time in a long time, it feels like they're actually going to win. And he's already got the plan. He's going to give Crowley one dose of the blood of his blood every hour for eight hours and then do the bloody hand fist face thing. Yeah. And.

bloody fist sandwich. I have Loretta Wynn's fist city like going through my head but it's about a bloody fist city and it's just getting gross. This all is just gross.

That is messy. Well, and Dean asks Sam if his blood has been purified, because that means Sam needs to go to confession. Yeah, because that was that was yeah, that was that was part of the exorcism. Yeah.

to confession? Is that how like, I know, but I know, but I'm just like, so that pure, okay, whatever. But so he doesn't actually, okay.

Well, first off, I like that Dean has suggestions on what Sam should confess. And it's rough.

Yes. Yes, he's got some grudges that he's been thinking about for a while. You know, these are things that Dean has thought about as you're driving through whatever he's like, so Ruby, you want to link?

yeah, yeah. Ruby, Lilith, Lucifer, your soul not looking for me and like fuuuu

I love that not looking for me, which is like, I'm still mad that you didn't come look for me in purgatory, which you've not forgotten was like 22 episodes ago. But we anyways, so he's got some grudges and Sam goes to a confessional, but there's no priest. I don't think this counts. I don't I don't think it counts.

Yeah, so is that confession? There has to be a pre - you have to - that doesn't count. It does not count. Now, I do - I do - hold on. I will say that conceptually, not if you're going pure Catholic, I don't think it counts. If you're talking just religion. I know. And I know. And Episcopalians and yeah.

If you're go -

This is a whole reason Lutheran went off. This was the reason we have Lutherans. The entire schism that occurred besides the fact that King Henry wanted to fuck Anne Boleyn was because people thought that they should be able to confess their own sins. They don't need an intermediary. But this all just feels very Catholic. It feels Catholic. It feels like it's like it feels like in some sort of spell works that I mean, but I guess like in magic world, like you see about intent.

Right. So we're asking for forgiveness. It does. It does. Yeah. Well, I think that's what it has to be.

And maybe the intent of this confession is enough, but like in Catholic land though, you need to atone. You don't like, you're not just forgiving. Like you have to do something like you have to, and it's always, you know, you have to say like 95 Hail Marys and blah, and do like 20 hours community service. I'm sorry. That was the judge, but you know, whatever, like even that it's this, it's not just this, but okay.

Do the rosary, do a bunch of rosaries or yeah.

We're just gonna roll with it, even though I think we're both are like, mm.

We're going to roll with it. There's some I'm just going to say there's some minor inconsistencies in this episode. Anyway, so. Well, Sam is in the confessional, Dean's still at trunk, so he gets another little more trunk action and. She is. Well.

Chuck just getting herself all she is she's just displaying herself out and she was like I would like some car organizers

Castiel has flapped in and he's not concerned with Trunk and he's just like, I need help because Naomi took Metatron and I've been working with Metatron on trials because we're gonna shut it all down. We're gonna shut down heaven while y 'all shut down hell. Fuck yeah, let's do this.

This is what I've been doing, sorry I didn't have time to tell you, I couldn't text you or anything, but we're also doing something. I got my own thing going, ehhh. And she's just like, what? Which is what you should be, that you're appropriate, this should be like, just da fuck?

The fuck? Yeah, very the fuck about the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of information.

So then we cut back to heaven and I swear to God that Metatron calls her Nahomi. I swear that he says Nahomi. Maybe that's all I can hear now, but I just, he's just like, Nahomi.

Heheheheeee

Well, and he's basically he's restrained he's in the chair with her creepy eyeball drill thing that she wants to go into his brain with

Her weird dentist fetish place.

And he's like, yeah, the Archangels wanted her wanted Naomi to debrief him after God left.

Do you think she's an alien prodding people like when they like thinking like they're getting prodded or they're going to Nahomi's chair?

Maybe. Does that mean that they're visiting angels instead? What? So but Metatron ran before she could do that. And he's like, yeah, of course, you wanted to know why a scribe was picked out of the shadows and and, you know, why or just to know why he's suddenly out of the shadows, why he's no longer in hiding and what he is doing with Castiel.

Okay, I'm sorry, sorry.

And so he's like, I will tell you in the most condescending manner that is possible, which maybe you shouldn't be that condescending to somebody who has a drill in their hands.

That is going towards your eyeball at that moment.

Yep, so she's getting into your brain. One way or another.

Yeah. Well, back on Earth, Cass and Dean are talking and he's like, what? They're he's like, what are you trying to do? Now you want to save heaven? Like what this guy was like, hide a cat, a hoarder. And what? Yeah, that was done. What the fuck? And Cass is like, yeah, no, I'm going to I need your help with Metatron. We're doing this. Let's do it.

You're all over the place, Cass. First you went, we're shutting down hell, now you want to save heaven. What is up, Cass?

And Dean's like, no, no, we've got Crowley. Sam needs our help right now. Hold the fuck on. But Sam comes out. He is done confessing. And he and he's like, Dean, you got to go. I got this shit. Let's make this shit fucking happen. And Dean's like, well.

And Cas, Sam's just rolling with this. He was like, sure, this sounds great.

Why not? But because Dean's like, well, yeah, this would send all the angels back to heaven. Good. They're fucking dicks. I don't want them here. Sam, start those injections now. And if I'm not back in eight hours, finish this. Finish Crowley.

They think they're gonna shut all this motherfucker down in the next eight hours. That's pretty impressive and pretty bold for them to have that kind of optimism, I'm just saying.

Impressive, bold, maybe not a lot of forethought. I'm not sure, but anyhow.

And they still, nobody has still had the conversation that you and I have had every episode since the trials began of what the fuck does it mean if they close hell, much less if they also close heaven. Nobody's had these conversations.

Yeah, no, no, I feel like these are things you should discuss, but whatever, like we're just going, we are going for it. So Cass and Dean, they flap away with a towel.

Yep. And Sam is used to syringe to give Crowley his first blood.

Thank God you're finally at least using surrender syrup lead and you're not just like cutting yourself up and like dripping in their mouth. And thank you for at least this little bit of hygiene.

Like, cutting yourself, yeah.

Yeah, so injects Crowley with blood.

Although he does, yeah, he just goes straight from like, he's sharing a needle though. Like he's just going intravenously from his arm and then just, it doesn't really matter, I guess, if you're putting your blood in there. Yeah, okay, okay, all right. So.

I mean, does that really matter at that point?

And his arms glow when he does this. So Sam's arms glow a lot from this point on.

This is barely just his forearm. So just he's getting some really she has a really glowy forearms and hands

Yeah, just his forearms and his hands. It's just for it's like a it's like it's like a Popeye glow. I don't know. Forearms and hands. All right. Yeah. And Dean and Cas go see Kevin at the bunker.

Yeah. So yeah, we get our first injection.

I was gonna flash like a We Go Vee commercial.

Anyways, okay, so, we, it was -

And they're like, hey, can you translate this angel tablet like in the next six hours? And Kevin's like, it took me fucking six months. Am I a dead mom to get the other one done, to get part of the demon tablet done? Fuck you guys.

Yeah, did you forget about the hot dogs and the amphetamines? What the fuck, Dane? You think this is just fine? And Kevin rightfully doesn't want to help.

He's like nope. I I've already heard the never out of this speech you already came back and told me I was fucking out so that's bullshit and So Castiel gives him the never out speech and then tells him it's his duty because he's a prophet of the Lord

Yep. And so nobody really likes a duty speech. And but you just like you're never done until you die. And then we go back to the church where Sam is poking Crowley who bites him. And then I think this is he buys a chunk out of his arm and it was reading and so I was talking to none. I bought an assload of books while I was on my trip, because that's also what I do. And there I found out that Aleister Crowley had a thing that he called

He bites a chunk out of his arm, it's gross.

the and he was called like the serpent's kiss because when he would bite women and he is in such incisors were pointy and they look like things so this is what I just read that I was like Crowley and Crowley are both biting people but then Sam has the right you know I think response to this

It punches the shit out of him. It punches him and then goes outside to get some air. And but.

But he wasn't just wanting it by to say him.

No, he was making a primitive blood bowl in his own palm. It's kinda brilliant. Blood bowl phone.

Smart, you so smart. Blood ball foam in the palm of your hand. And so it's, you know, it's looking new. Like I think the Apple developer conference, it's like a burner phone, but it's sort of like, you know, when phones are getting smaller the first time, and I'm sure we're going to go back on this again. But, you know, like we went down from like the big suitcase phone to our little like foot, like a little, you have little flip phone. Yeah. Exactly.

Is this a burner phone?

Yeah!

yeah. This is the tiniest flip phone you could get, like in Zoolander, where it was so small you couldn't hold it. And he just puts out a call. He's like, if anyone's hearing this, this is the king of the hell. This is the king of hell. Send help immediately. So he's just broadcasting.

That's dumb.

Well, this just shows how arrogant Crowley can be.

hubris. hubris is your downfall man. so we go to that and we cut to our bar houston, our houston bar, which this could have been your bar but it's not.

Ahhhh

Houston. No, and Cass and Dean are there and Dean's like, what, what is happening while they're drinking some beers?

free drinks because our lonely bartender like feels like has saved his ass and he and so it's so they're getting free drinks.

Yeah. And Dean's like, what, what, what's going on here? He's like, are you, what does it go through closing heaven? You did a lot of damage up there. You showed us a good idea and cast like, he's like, they might kill me. I don't know. But yeah, so they're just kind of watching.

And Cassia also asked Dean if it's wise to be drinking on the job. And Dean asked him what show you've been watching. And so I'm going to ask Diana, what show you've been watching for this season? no, it is time. It is time for season eight trivia. As we all put this alcoholic joke aside that we're all certainly concerned for for teen and Sam, but it's OK. We're going to trivia instead.

No. No. Yes.

No, no.

Are you ready? Did you study? No, of course you didn't. Slacker. Okay. So in episode, she was diving in first question in episode one of season eight, we need to talk about Kevin. What Texas town do we find salmon? I'll give you a multiple choice, but you can give bonus. Yes. Okay. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. All right. That was correct. So you get, well, two points for that because you got it without the multiple choice, which was an option. All right.

Kermit.

Alright, same question. In episode 2, What's Up Tiger Mommy, Linda fucking Tran makes the Palm Shop for a while giving them information. I'm starting to call the authorities about this.

Second question in episode two, what's up Tiger Mommy, Linda fucking Tran makes the pawn shop clerk Lyle give up information by threatening to call authorities about what.

Bitch (39:50.146)

Double point if you can name it without the hints.

It was something about like taxes or like the car.

Yeah, no, it was a car. So they're gonna call it on a car. So we're gonna ask you specifically what kind of car it was. So was it A, his Trans Am, B, his Ferrari, C, his like, yes it was, C, his Lambo or D, his Pinto. Let me get through the goddamn answers once I start them. It was, it was Lyle's unregistered Ferrari F430 Spider.

So we're going to ask you specifically what kind of car it was. So what's an A, his trans -am, B, his Ferrari, C, his Lamborghini, C, his Lambo, or D, his Pinto. Sorry. It was a Ferrari. I'm sorry. It was wild on purpose.

Thank you.

question number three in season eight episode five blood brother the stained glass in Benny's maker's window has the phrase de mortuis out of Benny out nine which I pronounce horribly but I don't give a shit cuz it's fucking Latin instead so but that means what does that mean I mean I do you need do you need the multiple choice okay and does it mean a the limbs of a distant membered poet

B. When we live, let us live. C. Death to me is the reward. Or D. Speak well of the dead or not at all.

D. I get.

It is D. All of those others, though, were in fact Latin phrases. I do really appreciate bees when we let when we live, let us live. That is translates to dumb, viva, vivimus, vivimus. So dumb, vivimus, vivimus. I feel like that's going to be my new dance hit. Vivimus.

Alright, question four. In episode six, Southern Comfort, Garth is posing as who? Is it A, Texas Ranger Walker, B, Texas Ranger McCray, C, Texas Ranger Norris, or D, Texas Ranger Seagal?

Fuck I don't know. We'll go with McCray.

That is correct. That is a reference to the 1989 TV mini series Lonesome Dove, which starred Robert Duvall as retired Texas Ranger Augustus McCray. Season five, season five. I know how things work. Question five. There's also a cat sitting on my foot. So in question five, question my God, in season eight, episode nine.

Yes, that's right. That's right. Season 8.

Alright, in season eight, episode eight, Huntary Herok - Herok - Herok - There is a freeze frame where Dean is labeled as what? Is it A. Galantis Goofus B. Hunterus Herokagus C. Dushimus Maximus or D. Handsomus Maximus? No, I had Handsomus Mamos. Sorry, that was not so good. Yes, it was B.

Yes. Yes. B. Yes. Sure.

Hunter as Heroicus. Heroicus, is that it? All right, in episode 10, we learn the name of Garth's boat is what? Is it A, Fizzle's fantasy? B, no it is not, Fizzle's floozy? C, Fizzle's folly? Or D, Fizzle's for shizzle? And I'm gonna repeat those again, because it's really good. Just Fizzle's fantasy.

Fizzle's fancy, yes. No, it's not. It's C, Fizzle's Folly.

Fizzle's floozy, fizzle's folly, or fizzle's fischizzle? It is fizzle's folly.

Question number seven we meet Harry Winchester in episode 11 as time goes by time travel is still stupid What song does he whistle it also plays on John Winchester's jukebox?

in episode 11 as time goes by. Time travel is so stupid. Yes. What song does he whistle? It also plays on Jonathan Tessler's.

Do you want the multiple choice?

Yeah.

Is it A. Sub -enchanted evening B. As time goes by C. You are my sunshine or D. Swinging on a star

It's B.

it is it's as time goes by whoo -hoo all right you're rolling i think you're you're winning right against yourself in question number eight in episode 17 goodbye stranger mag refers to cassio as her what a boo b clarence c unicorn or d pizza man

I am.

Be for sure.

It's only six. It's unicorn. The other things happened in other ever since, but not in this one. You were tricked. It was a trap. Ha!

I was tricked. It was a trap. It was a trap. I was like, she's called him all those things. hasn't she? That's why I was getting confused. No, not boo. That'd be weird.

Question number nine. Is that her boo? I don't think she ever called him her boo. RIP, Meg Seal. Question number nine. In episode 19, what does Sam tell Bobby changed his life to try and convince him that he is the real Sam? Is it A, his free pedicure at the Mall of America? B, the free cheese at Pepperidge Farm in the Mall of America?

I would like all of those things while I get a pedicure, but I will go with the pedicure, eh?

C. The Orange Julius, the Mall of America, or D. Mrs. Fields Cookies and the Mall of America.

It was the pedicure that is, in fact, what changed Bobby's life. And Pepper's farm and Mrs. Fields, those cookie, that cookie icing was the fucking best. OK, number 10, and we're going to have just two more questions. So number 10, according to the table of death of the supernatural wiki, how many deaths were there in season eight?

Man, I miss Orange Julius. Go ahead.

This was so good.

God.

And I'm going to give you some multiple choices here because I think that's a ballpark. So A is 27, B 53, C 145 or D 385.

That's a huge spread. I'm gonna go with C.

That's what she That is correct. It was in fact see and I hopefully I did that math, right? I put things into a spreadsheet and Sometimes they would say like six Nazis and they would have to like break out six Yeah, so approximately 145 characters were murdered this season on Supernatural and Which of these are not a way someone died?

Go on.

stabbed in the stomach, stabbed with a shovel, stabbed with a silver knife, stabbed with a dragon sword, stabbed with an angel blade, stabbed with Artemis' bow, stabbed with Ruby's knife, or stabbed in the head with Ruby's knife. This season. So A, stabbed in the stomach, B, with a shovel, C, with a silver knife, D, with a dragon sword, E, with an angel blade, F, with Artemis' bow, G, with Ruby's knife, or...

7 with a stomach, B with a shovel, C with a silver knife, D with a driving sword, E with an angel blade, F with Artemis' bow, D with Ruby's knife, or 8 with a hen, Ruby's knife.

H in the head with Ruby's knife.

Dragon Sword?

That is correct. That was not this season. Woo! I think I got everything but one.

All but one. Against myself. I mean, I have.

There you go. Reigning champion of trivia against yourself. When you start losing against yourself, that's when you need some more therapy. So that was season eight trivia. We'll look forward to doing this again next season. We can study next time. You're gonna fucking A plus, Diana.

Yeah. Hey, I got an A.

Back to the bar!

So we're gonna go back to the bar where Dean is just like, hey Cass, like, are you cool with closing down heaven? Is that a right with you?

Is this a good plan? And he's like, we're doing it. They might kill me, but we're doing this.

Have you thought this through?

I do also feel that Cass makes some decisions, maybe a little impetuously.

I feel like Cass is as righteous as he can be is very easily influenced. If you tap into his righteousness, he's very easily influenced as a character. So, all right, so. Yes, because she's filling in for the regular delivery driver and her name is Gail.

Nice. And so a woman has showed up to deliver the beer.

And this reminds Dean of a documentary movie.

The documentary? Okay.

You know, we're at those movies that you watch that are documentaries where sometimes a delivery person brings you beer and then you fuck that person.

Yeah, sure. That's a documentary. And she delivers the beer. She's very friendly with and polite, not inappropriately, just very polite and friendly with. Well. With Dwight and Rod, the regular that is sitting at the bar.

Does Bubbly, does it really nice she's doing her job? She's doing customer service.

who rides a stool there most days. And, you know, I've hung out at a lot of bars and sometimes extensively, but never long enough for someone to say I was riding a stool.

Well, she leaves and Dana and Cass are kind of like, the fuck was that? Was that the was that her? And then on TV right then comes an ad for an archery set and both Dwight and Rod watch and go, damn, that's sweet.

Someday, maybe.

And it's love that you're feeling. They are, yeah, it was just, indeed it's just stunned by like how he missed like what was happening here that the chick was the cubit all along.

This was so well done. So well done.

Hilarious. So good. All right. So back at the church, Sam is giving Crowley more blood. It's getting dark out, which we know that it's not good.

Callie wants his love injection and he starts singing changes and it's really hot.

Yeah, and Sam's arms glow, but then the building shakes and the floor cracks open, which breaks open the devil's trap. Because guess who's there? Abaddon. Ta -da!

My girlfriend!

And she fling Sam's gun away.

and Sam. And he's like, Crowley's like, so where's everybody else? She's like, nah, it's just me. It's just a little old unkillable me. And Crowley is like, all right, cool. So unchain me, Abaddon. And so I can kill Sam. And I'm your king, duh. And she's like, nah. And hits him.

Yeah, maybe you don't order me around and maybe don't call me a little whore you son of a bitch. And when she's most pissed off that it is 2013 and Crowley is the king of hell. And I'm sure she's just like, how the fuck is the patriarchy still a thing? And so that's happening. And then, but no, there's Sam's there to set her on fire.

Yeah.

And so that's happening. And then, no, there's sands there in the center of the fire. Well, in the meantime, we go back to Gail on the delivery deck at the bar and Castiel and Dean approach her.

And Cassiel is like, he's super aggro. He's got the fucking like, demon angel blade in his hand. And Dean's like has like calm down. He's like, like talk first stab later.

so aggressive.

Which is also not necessarily a very Dean thing to say, right? So yeah, so then we get back and we go through all the Abaddon and Crowley things and then Sam sets her on fire.

No.

Yes. And with that oil that he had been pouring earlier. So that's very convenient. And I think it is our artisanal oil. Artisanal holy oil is here.

Was it the artisanal oil?

Argyrism oil has made a showing.

And so she cocksmokes away. And what he also says, I hope he liked your, you know, he really liked her mitsu as we all did. This was like fucking gorgeous. And does this mean this is the end of my Josie Abaddon? Because I cannot live without.

I think so. I'm sorry. I'm sure that shirt got fucked up in the fire too. Good thing you got your own.

That one's too big. I want that one. Okay. So she cocks most away and we're going to cut back to our cupid.

And she's like, Look, I'm scared to go home, basically saying heaven's fucked. It's all chaotic. And if you think you can fix it in any way, shape or form, here's here's here's my bow, you can just fucking have it. And that's but the bow is not like bow and arrow like a physical one. So cool. So cool.

It's not just like a bow! It's a -

But it's also on her hand and I had to cut it out. I had to cut it out.

They don't really show that. I mean, I don't know. I think you just pluck it. It's angel magic. But it's like it looks like it. It was like a tattoo that like popped up on her palm.

How the fuck else you get that out of her hand? No, he had a knife. He was going to cut that shit out of her hand.

It was a tattoo that popped up out of harm and then he had a knife and cut it. This was what was gonna happen. This was bad. I don't like him either. The fuck? That's what it says in my notes. The fuck? All right, so we go from that to heaven and Metatron fucking whining.

no, I don't like that. I don't like that.

I just assumed it was plucked now I'm upset about it. yeah Metatron's bleeding from his eyes and like Naomi you've been digging around blablabla do you know what it's like to be plucked from obscurity and sit with God and write his word and ache when he left. We all had paradise but no you and the Archangels couldn't leave well enough alone. Blablabla.

Yeah, and so Nahomi is going to take offense and flap out and just leaves the drill there. And this does a bit remind me a bit of the Buffy in When Tomorrow Are Feeling when she's talking about, you know, you much like to have gone to heaven and then have to have him take it away and how upsetting that is. But also, Mettatron's a little bitch. So I just don't give a fuck. And of course, they left him there because you suck, Mettatron. We just know you do.

Yeah, she just flaps out. And then back at the church, Sam puts Crowley's chair back up right Crowley's complimenting him and Sam's like fixing the trap and he's like, wait a minute, Crowley's like, what the fuck, we just like had a moment and like save each other's life like, come on, like, what's the deal? And he's Sam just injects him with blood again.

And so, but unfortunately Nahome has left the drill.

Well, Crowley keeps going on about, have you ever watched Band of Brothers or in the Foxhole and like asking if he had ever watched HBO and all those motels you were in?

And you know you did because those are the only things that don't have commercials and it's really hard to fall asleep when there's commercials on But then he starts talking about girls and that everyone even him deserves to be loved what?

Yeah, Crowley gets like up, he sounds emotional and he's like yelling it. It's like, don't we all deserve to be loved? And he yells, I deserve to be loved. And he yells it out. And Sam just kind of like, what?

So he takes more blood.

Yeah. And Crowley asked a favor and he's like, I want to know what your confession was. And.

He just goes through his whole thing where he's just like, where do I even start to look for forgiveness? And this man needs a fucking Emmy. It's so good. Mark Shepard is so... He's just got tears going down with it and then like Sam's just like, let's start with this and he stabs him with his blood.

So good. Again, yeah. And then now.

Man, it's pouring your heart out to you and you just fucking stab him with it.

Yeah, and so we cut to Kevin on the phone with Dean. He's like, Look, I found some angel trials on this tablet, but there is nothing here about Nephalem or a cupid's bow. So.

Also, stop with the fucking sports metaphors because they don't work for me. And I don't want to just call it a metaphor. And that's fine. But I am also on the side with Kevin. He's just like, hey, you need to motivate me, motivate me with magic as he's sorry, whatever, just not sports is not going to work.

Naomi appears where to Castiel and Dean and she's like, look, I know you don't fucking trust me, but Metatron lied and Cas like, no, you're the one that twisted. She's like, no, really. Metatron is trying to break heaven as revenge for driving him away. Whatever you're working on is going to expel all the angels from heaven, just like Lucifer was expelled and they're all expelled down to earth.

And then we get this this thing where it's so it's because you can't trust this bitch, right? It's very hard to trust her and understand what she's saying. She does seem to be contrite and say that their mission was basically to protect human beings, God's creation. And she's crying, but she cries a lot. She I've seen her like the fake tears. I don't trust her.

And she's crying, she's crying. And she's usually not been very emotional. Is she? I don't think she's cried before. She's always been pretty emotionless. Well, this is the most like she seems emotional and she's like, look, I want you to shut the gates of hell, but don't do this. And if hell. It says, but also.

Don't do this, don't do this. Why won't you trust me after I drilled in all of your heads for so long?

But also she adds BT Dub, if Sam does complete the trial to close the gates of hell, I saw in Metatron's head that Sam will die. That is the ultimate sacrifice. And begs Castiel to stop the mission he's on because Metatron has been neutralized and and and that's it and flaps out.

Yeah, so I hate it. And so Dean's just like, what the, like, am I gonna die? shit, we need to get the fuck out of here. We need to get to Sam.

Get to Sam because they don't why we might not trust Naomi There's no reason for her to make that up and even if she did

Why would she be like, and also like, how can you read the signs of like tuberculosis, Sam? Look at him. He's not gonna make it out of here. Glowing forearms or not.

Yes, and as he's, as they get to the church, Sam is saying the rights, the new exorcism rights, and he slices open his hands. He's about to put it on Crowley's face. Goodness, Crowley's face. Well, no, remember, that's the last step. The last one, you do the hand to the face.

Yeah, so at this point they're like, okay, we can no longer go with the syringe. We have to go back to knife and just straight up. What is the bitch slap? I know, but I'm just like, you know, so we have to go back to just to unsanitary means. And he's got his magic hand.

Uncensored. Yeah.

Yeah. And outside Dean and Castiel, Castiel is like, look, I'm I'm I know what cast is like, I know I'm not wrong. I'm going to go fix my house. So he fucking leaves to go fix heaven, apparently. As Dean tells Sam that he's got to fucking stop.

So again, with the impetuousness, right? It's just, Cass, can you not take a moment? I think Heaven would be okay for like a minute or two for you to figure out what the hell was going on with this other thing that's also very important. Por que no los dos, Castiel.

Yes. Yes. But now he knows Cassiel. So now he's just gonna go find Naomi dead in her office with the brain drill thing stuck in the back of her head. And guess who's there and alive still.

no, it's Muntron. And he says he should have listened to...

Mm hmm. And he uses the angel blade to like cut into Castiel's neck. Right. He's a yeah, he's got it held up to it. It's really gross. Back in the church, Dean's trying to explain that to Sam that you are going to die. And Sam says, so.

Sip, you're gonna die, sip.

shit, what? Like you don't want to live? Like he was tuberculosis -sale. Like how else you not know you were dying?

Sam knew. Sam had to know though, as all this was going on. Yeah, he knew. And then back in heaven, Metatron's tying Cass up to say, and I don't know, don't be... Yeah.

This is his dentist chair and so in the dentist chair and now I just start calling him Marv again because I'm just so annoyed with him.

And he's like slicing his neck to pull out his essence and his grace in this blue liquid. So that's his angel -ness, I guess. I don't know.

Yep, his graciness. So it's this new thing that we've just been introduced and now we have another thing to think about. So it's not a soul, it's his grace. And so his angel grace comes out from his throat and it's not...

part of a trial is a spell.

This is about...

And he's and Metron's like it's gonna be wonderful. You're gonna have a new life You should go have a wife and babies then when you die and your soul goes to heaven You can find me and tell me your story

Now you see why I hate this fucker?

And then we get the bright white light, so we don't really know what's happening, but everything goes real bright white.

Yeah, like is he smiling him? We're not sure. Like we don't really know what's going on. So we came back to our church.

And Sam is big mad, big mad. He's like, we are so close. Others are going to die if we don't fucking finish this. And Dean's like, yes, but between the two of us, we have enough knowledge to turn the tide, but I can't do it without you. And Sam's like, well, you can hardly do it with me. You think I screw up everything. And so we get like, and he's like, how many times have I let you down?

And that's what his super martyr bow goes to, right? Him telling to Dean what his confessions were. And his confessions were all the times that he let Dean down. So much, he let Dean down that Dean had to turn to a van.

Well, and an angel, but yes, an angel in November.

bother.

And then he was like, no, that's not true. We've had disagreements and said mean things to each other. But I killed Benny to save you. I'm willing to let I'm willing to let Crowley go and demons who killed mom walk the earth to save you. Nothing past or present is going to be ahead of you. Period. I need you to see this. Very emotional.

Yeah, and he really, it's, it is just like a really great speech. It's a good moment, good bromant. We got, we got some bro, bro love happening here. And just, how do I stop? How do I stop Dean?

It is. Very bromant. Bromant.

So his arms are glowing real hard. So Sam's kind of fucked now. And he's just like, no, we're gonna figure it out. I'm gonna wrap your hand with this bandana because that's the super sanitary thing to do right now.

That is also the sanitary thing we'll do. We'll take the sweaty rag that's been in my ass and wrap it around your open wound.

Yes, and the glow stops while they hug it out. As they hug it out. Let it go, let it go.

And then I'm going to tell you to let it go. Otherwise I sing Frozen to you.

Damn it, that just cost us $50 ,000. Sorry, we'll stop. Okay, so.

That was under the time limit, it's fine. And they hug it out, but then Sam collapses.

Yeah, because his forearms went dark and now once your forearms don't glow, like, you know, it's on. So it's real bad and they call for Cas, but Cas can't hear them because he's lying in a field.

Ohhhh

Yeah, he's unconscious in the woods and then over at the bunker there's fucking red alarm bells going off now and it's all weird. There's noises outside the church. The bunker map is lighting up. Castiel.

What is up with this map? So this like lights are popping up all over this map and it's awesome. What the fuck is happening here? What is this map? I don't know what it does, but I love it and I need it. I need it in my new house.

It's so exciting.

I love it. I want to go back to the map table. I'm telling you. And we look up and there's falling stars all over the place.

All the angels are falling.

And that's how it ends. But also, I will say how it ends. What the fuck about Jodie?

That's it and they're landing quite hard What where is she where is Jodie is she dead Is she dead is Jodie dead so rude very rude

Y 'all just left Jodie in a bathroom floor lying on the - like -

you guys man so fucking real this shit you had so much time to go check on motherfucking Jodie Mills what the fuck is wrong with you Winchester slap you goddamn face

No, they didn't even bother. They were so focused on everything else.

Do we have, do we have a casting notes? Okay.

Very brief ones. We while we had a really cool cast on this one, a lot of those people we already knew, of course, but then also a lot of our our wonderful associated cast this time did not have a ton of other credits. So I will share two characters. Gail, AKA Cupid, was played by Diana Pavlovska. So and she was a flight attendant in Final Destination five and has been in episodes of Fringe and Bates Motel.

Sounds like he had a good run.

Yeah. So, yeah.

Alright, so thank you for those and now let's wrap up, I guess, let's start the episode. So, for a finale, what did you think of this?

Mm -hmm.

I feel like.

They, they, well, they, they wrapped things sufficiently for a season episode. They really didn't wrap up anything. And that's a weird feeling.

Yeah, we kind of have this way, you're to the gates of hell, they're... okay.

Gates to hell not closed. That's still open. Heaven, we don't know what the fuck's going on. Kevin's in a bunker with a tablet. What the fuck? Like, we don't know if our main like threatened person is dead or alive. Crowley, what the fuck's going on with him? Castiel, what the fuck's going on? Like everything's in limbo. Like nothing was like, you know?

Nothing was wrapped. There wasn't any closure before. They just said, we're just gonna move on to season nine.

No, none. Sam's still dying of some Sam's still dying of something.

Yep, so I guess we're just going to carry on to season nine. So that is how season eight goes. That it just kind of went. And so you remember, so Sarah Gamble left, Jeremy Carver took over kind of as the showrunner, I believe. So we have, it was kind of a new person who's up the helm. But overall, what did you think of the season?

Yeah, it's just weird.

I think there was some really fun elements to it. I do, you know...

would have liked to have seen more of certain characters and less of others maybe. But...

So you're saying Crowley 24 -7. Wait, no, you want Benny 24 -7.

And. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, like that's and then I, you know, I feel like we still didn't get like I feel like Meg still didn't get a fair shake this season. I feel like I know, but like that. But it was just like she did by like.

Benny and Garth, you want the Benny and Garth show? Yeah.

I killed her!

And they made her blonde.

And then, I mean, I thought that he has blondes here. Look at us.

I'm not a blonde.

but they, but you know, so I just feel like some of the, like the Naomi storyline is a little, it's so complex, it's hard to follow. Like what is actually happening there? Like I don't think we have a good grasp on it. So I have some complaints about the season, but I'm still really excited to see what's gonna happen next because now we're really delving into like this heaven and hell thing, which is my jam. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I think, you know, we moved a lot away from.

Monster of the Week.

We moved away from Monster of the Week, but also the larger Heaven versus Hell mythology. We still had angels and demons, and we obviously are dealing with what does purgatory mean in this universe. At the same time, though, they're not stopping an apocalypse. They made their own agenda, and then they decided that maybe they could shift their goals, and that doesn't need to be the goals. They need to be...

yeah.

Yes, yeah Right

But maybe also they forgot about some friends along the way.

Yeah.

Season 8 you were great. No.

I mean we didn't have to deal with Leviathan so I'll take it. That's true.

There is no Leviathan and we had, you know, at least we had two Felicia Day episodes, so that was always the perk. And, you know, I think we're getting into, we didn't have as many meta episodes this season. There was, no, was there, there was a couple of times a fourth wall was broken, but we didn't have like our super meta meta. So I know, but there's more of that to come. So.

Right, but not.

With that said, anything else about season eight or this episode you want to say? All right, then cheers.

No, that's it. Cheers, bitch.