Cinthia interviews Santana Da Luz, the Minister of Magic. They talk about how they met at a business meeting, and Cinthia's "paper femme" exterior. Santana tells the story of how she manifested her crystal bowls and became a sound alchemist.
Cinthia and Santana also talk about chanting and the healing properties of buddhist chants. They share positive memories about the retreat Cinthia hosted last year where Santana played her healing crystal bowls.