Who better to inspire fledgling podcasters than a podcaster at the top of their game!
Speaker:But for seasoned podcasters who want to get better, the value of playing
Speaker:follow the leader can quickly fade.
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Speaker:Hello, and welcome to another Podcast Pontifications with me, Evo Terra.
Speaker:There's an old saying that I like to repeat and it's "Never meet your heroes."
Speaker:Especially if your heroes are celebrities.
Speaker:Generally speaking, that may also apply to podcasting celebrities as well.
Speaker:At least, that is, if you're trying to become a better podcaster.
Speaker:Many podcasters want to get better at podcasting.
Speaker:The fact that you're listening to this episode of Podcast
Speaker:Pontifications likely means that you want to get better at podcasting.
Speaker:Certainly, if you are engaging with the Advancing Podcasting community on
Speaker:my Discord server, then you certainly want to get better at podcasting.
Speaker:So who do you learn from?
Speaker:The people who mastered the craft, right?
Speaker:That's the obvious idea.
Speaker:Those who have made a successful, if not extremely successful, podcast
Speaker:in line with the type of podcast you want to make seems the logical
Speaker:choice of someone to learn from.
Speaker:Why not learn from the best?
Speaker:Well, because that's likely the opposite of what you should do.
Speaker:Wayne Gretzky, arguably the greatest player ever to lace up the skates
Speaker:in the NHL, he coached the Phoenix Coyotes, professional NHL team, for four
Speaker:seasons after he retired as a player.
Speaker:During his tenure, that team lost more games than they won.
Speaker:He wasn't a great coach.
Speaker:He was a great player.
Speaker:Stephen King's book On Writing is often quoted as a must-read by many authors.
Speaker:But, in reality, it's a memoir.
Speaker:It's not a write-books-the-way-that-Stephen-King-writes-books
Speaker:book.
Speaker:He's a great writer, but great teacher?
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:You can go down to your local guitar center or any other music store, and
Speaker:you can buy a book and sheet music and videos that'll teach you how to play
Speaker:guitar just like Yngwie Malmsteen from Mr.
Speaker:Yngwie Malmsteen himself.
Speaker:But when you're done, you're not going to be able to play
Speaker:guitar like Yngwie Malmsteen.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:Great player.
Speaker:Teacher?
Speaker:You could even sign up for a masterclass taught by an actor who has won multiple
Speaker:Academy Awards, and you will likely not pick up any actionable technique that
Speaker:propels you towards a career or furthers your career in motion pictures because
Speaker:they may be a great actor, but they're probably not a great teacher at all.
Speaker:In most cases, the pros who try their hand at teaching find out that
Speaker:they are much better at being pros than they are at being teachers.
Speaker:Now, for people who are just starting out or who are happy to continue to
Speaker:dabble in a certain thing, hey, then the advice offered up by the pros are
Speaker:great for them because they can copy some techniques, try on a few styles,
Speaker:and I'd go so far as to say that many of these dabblers will actually show
Speaker:some improvement after taking a class or a workshop or watching a video series
Speaker:from someone at the top of their game.
Speaker:But that's for beginners.
Speaker:We're talking about marginal improvement at best, and one that
Speaker:clearly shows diminishing returns.
Speaker:It's really no different in podcasting because at some point,
Speaker:you go from dabbling in podcasting or just starting out in podcasting
Speaker:to getting serious about podcasting.
Speaker:And then studying those podcasters, at least the information they put
Speaker:out - they're at the top of their game.
Speaker:That becomes a lot less valuable to you.
Speaker:For a few reasons, but one is that the instructional information that these pro
Speaker:podcasters put out isn't aimed at you.
Speaker:It's aimed at the beginner, and you're probably not a beginner anymore.
Speaker:I know you might feel like a beginner sometimes, might feel like you
Speaker:don't have all of the tricks and the tools and the techniques down.
Speaker:And you don't.
Speaker:None of us do.
Speaker:But going back to the information pros give on how to get started in
Speaker:podcasting isn't going to help you.
Speaker:So what does actually help you, the working podcaster who's been
Speaker:at this for a while, get better?
Speaker:That's the real question.
Speaker:That's, you know, it's not a trick question, but there are
Speaker:lots of ways to answer that.
Speaker:It's something that I want to dig into a lot more this week
Speaker:on Podcast Pontifications.
Speaker:Look, I don't have all of the time in this episode to get into "Here's exactly
Speaker:what you should do" because here's the other trick - there's no one right way.
Speaker:We know that.
Speaker:But, there are some good right ways that I would like to expose to you for
Speaker:the rest of the episodes on this week.
Speaker:Now, if you have personally any recommendations, any that you've used,
Speaker:any resources, any classes, any workshops, any ideas that you have personally
Speaker:used as a working podcaster - not to started, but actually propel your career
Speaker:forward, I'd love to know about them.
Speaker:Go ahead and share it with me, evo@simpler.media, or hop into that
Speaker:Advancing Podcasting community that I mentioned advancingpodcasting.xyz,
Speaker:and share it over there.
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Speaker:That's it.
Speaker:I shall be back tomorrow with yet another Podcast Pontifications.
Speaker:Cheers!
Speaker:Podcast Pontifications is written and narrated by Evo Terra.
Speaker:He's on a mission to make podcasting better.
Speaker:Links to everything mentioned in today's episode are in the notes
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Speaker:A written-to-be-read article based on today's episode is available at
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Speaker:transcript, both created by Allie Press.
Speaker:Podcast Pontifications is a production of Simpler Media.