The Power of Conscious Creation: Manifesting Your Dreams

THE POWER OF CONSCIOUS CREATION: MANIFESTING YOUR DREAMS with Cooper Gillespie

Cooper: [: 00:00:00

And so the process is, you know, you take a sheet of paper, you draw a line down the middle and you write down all the stuff that you don't want. And then on the other side you go, okay, well if I don't want. What, what would the opposite of that look like? Or what, what would it look like? The thing that I do, And write all that stuff down on the opposite side.

And it's a tweaking process, so you might not get it all perfectly right, but just to have it all laid out in front of you gives you a sort of a, a starting point to go, okay, , I can see how I can move from that thing that I don't want into something more like what I do want. Is that really what I want?

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So that's what we're doing today and Cooper is so much fun to talk to. So I know that this is going to be, and I say this every single time, I know it's going to be a fabulous conversation, because it always is. But I actually have experience with Cooper this time. So Cooper, welcome to Curiously Wise, and tell us a little bit about you.

Cooper: Well, thank you for having me. I'm so, I'm so excited to be here. Yeah. So I am, I call myself a manifestation mentor, and basically what that means is I just try to help people. Well, live their most awesome life, you know, whatever it is the thing that they want to do. I try to help them get unstuck so that they can do it.

Yeah. So that's what I.

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And so talk to us first about what it means to manifest something. It's a word we, we use a lot, but I'm not sure everybody really knows what we mean by that.

Cooper: Yeah, it's an interesting word. I'm like, is there a better word to use because I agree with you. But I think it's. Times the best word to use because there aren't a lot of words that mean what it is, which is basically, I guess if there was another way of saying it, consciously creating your life, consciously creating what you want in your life.

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All probabilities are possible. And so I like that idea of I'm selecting this probability and I'm going to go down this path and make that happen. So that's another interesting way of thinking of it. But basically, it's just consciously creating your life.

Laurin: All right. I like that. That's, yeah, because manifesting, I think there's, there's a lot of baggage around that, you know?

Cooper: And I've certainly, I was, we were talking earlier and I was saying I'm kind of having a dark night of the soul with my business or just like a, it's going through an evolution and part of it is that, And I'm trying, and I am searching for a better way to describe what it is I do for, for that reason, because the manifestation, there's been a lot of spiritual bypassing in the manifestation community and a lot, a lot of people actually shaming and guilting people for things in their lives and using manifestation as, as an excuse for that.

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Laurin: So we're going to use the word manifesting today, I love that idea of consciously creating your life. That's, that's going to be the title of this episode!

Cooper: I love it. I love it. Perfect.

Laurin: So so talk to us a little bit about how one can do that.

Cooper: So first of all, you have to know what you want. And actually, as simple as it sounds, this is oftentimes the hardest step for people. A lot of people have a lot of, you know, shame or fear around just actually admitting out loud with the thing that they want. And part of that is because a lot of us, we're taught by very well-meaning adults in our lives to, you know, remember where you came from.

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What it is that you want to create. And then, you know, you, there's all sorts of processes you can use to actually bring that into your 3D reality. But that's step one. So, because a lot of us have these subconscious blocks, because we have these well-meaning adults who have put all this information into our brains when we were little about what, how, you go through life and you know, they meant well.

But it's not always helpful that programming that we got as kids. So a lot of us have subconscious blocks. So even if you get to the point where you can admit what you want. Then, if you haven't worked on the subconscious blocks that are saying no, you shouldn't have that. No, that's not safe to have that.

, oh you know, let it go and [: 00:06:00

I've taken an inspired action every day and, but be open to what, how wacky the Universe is going to get because it, it's really, and incredible how the universe will bring you things that you thought, you know, you thought you wanted one thing, it actually brings you something cooler and in a way weirder way than you could have ever envisioned.

Laurin: Yes. Yeah. Mike Dooley talks about the “dreaded hows,” you know, because we, we start to go, this is what I want and this is how it should come, or this is how I see it coming. And that's just closing down the possibilities. Because, like you said, the Universe delivers in, in magnificent ways, you…

Cooper: [: 00:07:00

Laurin: and, and never a straight line either, you know? Never a straight line, so…

Cooper: No. Yeah, it's going to be a, a long and winding road and that's, that's part of what's cool about. About manifestation, about life, is the, we get to go on the journey. I always use the example of if you were going to go on a European cruise or something, and you started off in Greece and you were supposed to end up in Venice and the some, you know, magical godhead just picked up the boat and plopped you down in Venice the next day, you'd missed the whole cool journey of going to all the different places.

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Laurin: right, right. And you never know. For me, one of the things that's stopped me manifesting in the past and still does sometimes, because, you know, it's sort of ingrained, is that I have what seems like way bigger dream than I could ever accomplish. But what I've learned is that if I, like you said, just go, this would be really cool and let it go, then I have that journey, that windy journey, because I always want to get right there, right there, right now, you know?

But the windy journey takes me through all the steps to get where I need to be to get that, that whatever that wonderful thing is. And so I've, I have learned to kind of relax, you know, it's like, Ooh, this would be really cool. Okay. I'm just going to have to just like, put it out there and then move on, you know?

Cooper: Yeah. And [: 00:09:00

It's so hard to just be like, Okay. I'm just going to trust that even if I don't get this job, that that's because there's a better job coming along, or that that job is coming to me and there's a bunch of stuff happening that I don't know. It's like it's hard to relax during that time, but you’ve got to do it because otherwise you're just going to drive yourself crazy for no reason.

Laurin: Right? And then you end up sabotaging yourself, you know? And that's that's not a good thing either.

me to get to this point, but [: 00:10:00

Those were the times when I learned the most. And so everything is truly working out for your highest good, even if it doesn't feel good when you're going through it.

Laurin: Right. Right. Especially when it doesn't feel good. Those are the biggest lessons that we learn, in my, in my personal experience.

Cooper: Yes, absolutely. Yeah,

Laurin: So how did you learn to manifest? Because this is, this is a passion of yours and I know that our passions usually rise out of, you know, our experiences and the, and the joy we get from it.

So tell us that little bit about your story.

Cooper: Yeah. So I am very passionate about helping people consciously create their lives, because for the first 33 years of my life, I lived completely, unconsciously, completely not in my power. Had no idea that I had any personal power, had no idea that I was creating this, this crazy life that I was creating around me.

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And that was how we were making our living. So also like how we made our living, like everything fell apart. And I entered a pretty deep depression because I had never, I had never, quote unquote, failed that hard. Now I know there's no such thing as failure, but no one ever told me that. You know, I was a high achiever.

I was a straight A student. I knew how to do things right, you know, and no one ever told me failing is one of the most important parts of success, right? That hitting those brick walls and, and maybe having everything fall apart is part of the process. I didn't know that. And so I re, it really messes, it really messed with me.

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Went out, did drugs that night. My mom had invited me on this Abraham Hicks cruise, which she said, she called me up and clearly my whole family was like, whoa, what's happening? She's. Going down a dark path. My mom said, I would like to take you on a cruise. And I was like, okay. Because I wanted to go on a cruise.

I'd never been on one. And she said, it's an Abraham cruise. Do you know who Abraham Hicks is? And I said, no. And she proceeded to explain Abraham Hicks was this, like these, primordial beings or something, that were channeled through this lady named Esther. And I was like, absolutely not. Hell no. That sounds like some weird hippie stuff.

No, I'm not going. And my mom was like, listen, you only have to go on one, to one Abraham event and then if you, if you hate it, you can just enjoy the cruise. You don't have to go to any more events. And I was like, okay, I, that's, I can live with that. Oh my God. So about, it was a couple weeks after the whole oversee, overstimulating the heart thing.

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I was like, Ugh, gag me, you know? And then, then Jerry Hicks was still alive at time. He came out, Esther came out, she brought Abraham out. It was like, you know, there's that story in the Bible where, you know Paul talks about walking along the road to the mancuss, something, the eye, the scales fell from his eyes and he could see for the first time.

That is exactly what happened to me. It was like a com. It was like a religious experience. I, because I heard a message I'd never heard in my life, which was that you have the power to consciously create your life. You don't like something in your life, guess what? You can change it. Now, it sounds crazy that I, someone could live for over 30 years and, and not understand that, but literally I had no idea.

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And a lot of people were like, whoa. What happened to you on that cruise? But then some of my friends and family were, were open to, they wanted to hear more, and I wanted to, to talk about it more. And so I guess I kind of began quote unquote coaching people back then for free. I didn't know that was a, anything that you could do, but just like helping, trying to help people get unstuck.

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And we could get to that point, but then I, the law of attraction wasn't enough to just like get rid of those things and really help them get unstuck. It could take me so far, it could take them so far. And then there was a, there was an issue there and I think what the issue was was that there are a lot of things in our lives that need to be worked through subconsciously, the subconscious blocks, and also in our bodies somatically.

There's a lot that we store traumas and things that we store in our bodies and that they need to be worked through in the body. You can't just law of attraction your way out of those things. And so yeah, so I, I went on that, you know, the seeker's journey where I just like learning all the tools and sort of amassing a toolbox full of all these different tools that could help me and other people get through things. Because you need a different tool. What I discovered was you needed different tools for different situations that people were dealing with and and that's how I ended up here.

It was a very long journey,

Laurin: But that's, [: 00:16:00

You know, it's that piece. It's also why I believe there's so many of us that do so many different things. When we're talking about energy and, and the Universe and spirituality, because everybody needs their own little recipe of help. You know? And so…

Cooper: Absolutely, [: 00:17:00

Laurin: yeah, yeah. So one of the things that I come back to again and again is that “knowing what you want,” because I lived more than 33 years. I lived 55 years or more knowing what I didn't want, knowing who I did not want to be, knowing what kind of life I did not want to have, but I really couldn't articulate what I did want.

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Cooper: Yeah, there's a law of attraction process. I think it's an Abraham Hates process, called Contrast to Creation. And, and it's a great, it's a great exercise for this. I mean, because knowing what you don't want is great. That's really powerful manifestation tool because , I know I don't want that. So now I can look and see what I do want.

And so the process is, you know, you take a sheet of paper, you draw a line down the middle and you write down all the stuff that you don't want. And then on the other side you go, okay, well if I don't want. What, what would the opposite of that look like? Or what, what would it look like? The thing that I do want. And write all that stuff down on the opposite side.

And it's a tweaking process, so you might not get it all perfectly right, but just to have it all laid out in front of you gives you a sort of a, a starting point to go, okay, I can see how I can move from that thing that I don't want into something more like what I do want. Is that really what I want?

a great writing process to, [: 00:19:00

Laurin: Oh, okay. So that's, that's really great. Yeah. I find that because I, I am a writer, you know, by, by trade in the past and, and am starting to do more writing again, but for me, I have, I journaled a lot in my tumultuous years. When I'm happy, I don't journal much, but, but in my tumultuous years, my, my teens and twenties, I journaled constantly. And I learned that I didn't know what I was thinking or feeling until I saw it on the page.

So it gave me that perspective, got me out of the wash of all the emotions and let me just see what was really under all that. So I'm a big fan of getting things out of your head and onto the page because it does give you, that gives you literal distance from them to to see with a little more clarity and a little more objectivity.

So I love that. That's great. I'm gonna do that.

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It starts at a very young age. Oh, you know, you don't want to go and I don't know, you don't want to go do that. Well, you're going to do it anyway because I said so, or whatever, you know, I don't know what everyone's parents are thinking, but we're taught to just like not pay attention to ourselves.

And it gets to a point where a lot of us can't even hear our intuition talking, like screaming at us going, don't do that! Or, yes! Do that! And so this can be one of those first steps to really starting to get in touch with your intuition is to write it down and see, oh wow, this is, it's almost like automatic writing.

You don't even have to pay attention necessarily to what's coming out.

Laurin: Let it flow.

Cooper: Let it flow. Yeah.

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a tool I encourage a lot of people to, to try. There's, there's a lot of resistance to doing that, I think because it is so revealing, you know,

Cooper: Yeah.

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If you don't, if you're afraid that somebody wants to see it or just to help you, let go of it, just burn it, you know? So,

Cooper: Yeah

Laurin: I would. , I might add that step to the, the things I don't want to do, is to take that piece out and burn it. You know,

Cooper: Yeah. And just like that's like, okay, now that's gone.

Laurin: You let that go to spirit. Yeah. Yep. So yeah. Cool. All right, so there's lots of things here that, that are really fascinating. The, there's, you know, the, the, figuring out what you want, letting go of the hows, letting go of how you get from here to there, be open to something better. I'm trying to think what else we've talked about because this is a lot of…

Cooper: And you still have to take inspired action. Like I, you can't sit there and be like, oh, I, I'm, I'm going to raise my vibe and, you know a Lamborghini is going to appear in my driveway. That's not how it works. You still have to like, go make the money and go down to the dealership yourself to do all the things.

ally wants that, but it's an [: 00:22:00

Laurin: Right. Okay. So let, let's talk about that piece a little bit more. Because I did fall into the, the belief, or, you know, what I was learning is that if I just put it out there, it's going to come and it doesn't work that way.

Cooper: not, but, but putting it out there and feeling good. and, you know, and trying to focus on feeling good, that that can do a lot, it can make it more possible for you to do the things that make what you, you know, want to happen. I think about that time when I was in that deep, dark place and it was really hard to want, you know, quote unquote manifest, anything because I was just like, not capable of getting out of bed , you know?

ation. There's valid, that's [: 00:23:00

And so the, all of that stuff about raising your vibe, it's valid because it

Laurin: Oh yeah,

Cooper: out of that, you

Laurin: plus it's a, it just feels good. It's a much

Cooper: It does It does absolutely.

Laurin: So how would you then define inspired action?

Cooper: So I, I think inspired action is very much when you get those little intuitive pings or nudges like, I should call that person, I don't know why, I just have a feeling I should call them. Or, you know, I, I don't know why I feel like I should go to this place or I shouldn't go to this place. Those intuitive pings I think are really important to take stock of, because I think a lot of times inspired action comes from that.

, this, this feels good. You [: 00:24:00

Laurin: Okay. Good. Good. Yeah, because that's where I know I get lost in the, I must do this, I have to do that. And then when I can, I catch myself and I back up and I go, okay, that's no fun. And yeah, maybe it needs to be done, but maybe I just do a little bit at a time instead of trying to get it all done and include this inspired, you know, this thing that brings me so much joy, because it makes that easier too.

Cooper: Yeah.

Laurin: So you know,

Cooper: You do

Laurin: live a human life, so there's things we have to do. You know?

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And I think in, especially with spiritual professionals, there is this sort of balance between this masculine energy and this feminine energy and business. And I've seen it. A lot of my clients where they, they, I just want to do things that feel good. I don't want to do anything that doesn't inspire me or that doesn't feel good.

And it's like, sometimes you’ve got to just sit down and do stuff that isn't fun because, you know, but that has to get done. Those, those real structured things because you, you can't just necessarily feel good your way into a, a successful business.

Laurin: Yeah, yeah,

Cooper: but, but also also taking the inspired action. So you still have to have that structure and that flow when it's a balancing act.

Laurin: It is a balancing act and that's one I've, I'm working on a lot right now is just balancing that masculine feminine, because I tend to be heavier on the feminine energy and it's like, the masculine, ah, I don't want to do that.

Cooper: Yeah, yeah, [: 00:26:00

Laurin: That's numbers, that's, you know, it's like,

Cooper: But that stuff can set you free. I work with a lot of people around money and that stuff can set you free. Setting up those, those money dates with yourself every week, setting up those budgeting systems, setting up the percentages of your money that go to the different buckets, you know, for life. All of that super linear, super quote unquote masculine structured stuff can allow more flow and freedom in your life when you, when you.

When you are really paying it, I think of it with money a lot because a lot of times people just like let their money flow and it's like their money goes and they're like, what happened to all my money?

Laurin: Mm-hmm.

Cooper: Well, you need that structure in order to have that flow and freedom in order to feel like I am abundant.

I have more than enough money because I know, because I've been very intentional with how I've set up the structure for my money to flow, you know? So an example.

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You know, it's like, and I felt so much freer once I got that back under control. And if I do it, you know, regularly, I don't get that anxiety around it. So I've learned that systems structure, really do make me, like you said, makes me feel like I can flow. Where, where flowing is a good thing, but I have all of this stuff in place so I don't have to try to mind manage all of that stuff.

Cooper: Totally,

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Cooper: Yeah. You

Laurin: I'm a work in progress.

Cooper: Aren't we all, aren't we all!

Laurin: All right, so I'm going to ask you a question I'm asking everybody this year, and that is, do you have a must read?

Cooper: For me, my, my quote unquote Bible as it were, would be Ask and It Is Given by Abraham Hicks. That book it's, it's a really powerful manifestation manual because not only is there, of course talk about the universe and the Law of Attraction and everything, but there's actually…I think it's 22 really specific manifestation practices that you can do.

And you will, 100%, you will see results in your life. So I really like that it's very tangible and practical in that way.

Laurin: Yeah. Okay. I haven't read that one. I'll have to go get that.

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Laurin: Okay. That's exactly what I'm looking for because I really, I love books and it's, it's something that I want to bring, I wanted to bring into the podcast in a way. And so yeah, so I'm building, I'm, I'm going to be building a list for, for anybody who's interested in it.

Cooper: Well, if you read it, let me know. I'm curious to hear what you think.

Laurin: Okay. All right. I will. I will.

All right, Cooper, where can people find you online?

Cooper: Yeah. The best place is my website, CooperGillespie.com. And there, there are freebies and things that you can download to, to learn more. And there's lots of resources there. So that's the best spot. And come hang with me on Instagram. I love Instagram. Instagram.com/CooperGillespie.

Laurin: Easy peasy. All right. and I think you just answered everything I wanted to ask. Oh, she also has a podcast That's really awesome and I'm gonna be a guest on it,

el Manifester podcast. And I [: 00:30:00

Laurin: I love it. I love it. Yeah, and, and I, I just listened to the, this episode this morning, actually, and it just, she's, yeah, you're really good. Your energy's great. Your your presence is amazing and your information is invaluable. I've, I've got so many ideas for things that I want to tweak in my business, The, today's was about branding, rebranding your business, and so I've, I've picked up a lot of things from that, so go and, and listen to her podcast as well, because it's really good.

Cooper: Yeah.

Laurin: All right. I want to thank Cooper for being here with me today. This was awesome. And,

Cooper: Thank you for having me. This is so fun. I love it. We got to have two good conversations.

Laurin: I know it's, it's one of the wonderful things about trading podcasts, is it's like, Ooh, we get to do this twice.

ah, totally. It's like such, [: 00:31:00

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. So thank you so much for being here and sharing this amazing, wonderful deep knowledge about consciously creating our life using manifestation. and I want to thank all the listeners and the, and the viewers for being here with us today. And I hope you too, learned a lot today and are able to take this into your life, in a practical way.

So, I will see you next time on Curiously Wise. And in the meantime, stay curious!

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Curiously Wise is a team effort. I am grateful for the skill and enthusiasm. Arlene Membrot, our producer, and Sam Wittig, our audio engineer, bring to this collaboration. Our music is Where the Light Is by Lemon Music Studio.

I'm Laurin Wittig. Please join me again next week. For another episode of Curiously Wise. From my heart to yours, may your life be filled with love, light joy, and of course, curiosity.

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