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Climate Activism, Changing Entrenched Power Structures, And The Future Of Humanity With David Johnson
Episode 6724th August 2021 • Law, The Universe, And Everything • The Soldati Group
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Climate Activist and Stanford Law and d. school Lecturer David Johnson joins the show for a wide ranging conversation all around guiding our species into the future. Find his work and learn how you can become a climate activist at


Law, The Universe, And Everything is a show featuring leaders from the fields of law, business, sports, medicine, spirituality, music, marketing, entrepreneurship, cannabis, blockchain, and beyond. We talk about anything and everything as long as its interesting. No topic is off limits so it's a bit like Joe Rogan meets Tim Ferriss but the host has better hair. Law, The Universe, And Everything is a production of The Soldati Group ( All opinions expressed by the host and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinions of The Soldati Group. This podcast is for information and entertainment purposes only. These discussions do not constitute legal or investment advice.


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Books Mentioned:

Gallatea 2.2 by Richard Powers:

The Overstory by Richard Powers:

The David Foster Wallace Reader by David Foster Wallace:

Chaos by James Gleick:


Show Notes:

00:00 Show Intro

01:06 Https://

01:53 Guest Intro – David Johnson

03:08 Interview begins

03:18 The path to law school

04:13 Joining academia

05:55 Applying design thinking to climate activism

12:36 Collectivism in the 21st century

18:45 The individualization of climate change

20:39 Fighting entrenched power

26:12 Managing incentives and consequences

30:50 Waking up to disinformation

33:33 The power to change systems

36:20 How we got here and where we could go

39:00 Costly national misadventures

44:44 Getting further from a shared reality

47:00 The acceleration of technological progress

52:49 David’s favorite failure

56:21 David’s book recommendations

58:14 The kindest thing anyone has done for David

1:01:08 Show Outro