Alec, Mattson and JJ dive into a detailed discussion of Quentin Tarantino's film "Inglourious Basterds," exploring its unique blend of historical fiction and dark humor. The hosts debate the film's pacing, particularly its middle section, which some feel could benefit from tighter editing. They highlight the standout performances of Christoph Waltz and Brad Pitt, emphasizing how their characters drive the narrative and create tension. The conversation also touches on the film's satirical elements, with a focus on its portrayal of Nazi propaganda and the absurdities of war. Overall, the episode offers insights into both the strengths and weaknesses of Tarantino's storytelling style, making it a thoughtful analysis for fans of cinema.
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Speaker B:With that, we're in week three of original screenplays.
Speaker B:And what would a month of original screenplays be without at least one Quentin Tarantino film?
Speaker B:So let's talk about Inglorious Bastards.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It was written and directed by Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker B:Stars Brad Pitt, Eli Roth, Melanie Laurent, Diane Krueger, Christoph Waltz, Michael Fassbender, Till Schwager, Daniel Brule and Gideon Burkhardt.
Speaker B:It is about Nazi occupied France during World War II.
Speaker B:A plan Nazi leaders by a group of Jewish U.
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Speaker B:Soldiers coincides with the theater owner's vengeful plans for the same.
Speaker B:Yeah, Nancy, if.
Speaker B:If Alec hadn't put this on the podcast, I would have the list, because I.
Speaker B:Anyway, Alec, your movie.
Speaker B:You go, my friend, and then I will talk.
Speaker C:I'm a Tarantino fan, so I like the way he writes his stories.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:He takes a point in time that did exist, and then he changes it to fit the story.
Speaker C:He wants to tell of what could have happened.
Speaker C:And I feel like that's in many ways like, almost as original as you can get with today's, you know, movie, I guess is the best way to put it, because you need a scene or a backdrop that people are gonna relate to and recognize.
Speaker C:You need to draw them in the theater for the making the money.
Speaker C:So you pick a time frame where that'll work.
Speaker C:And then he just breaks every single rule of cinema after that to tell the story he wants to tell.
Speaker C:And he is completely unapologetic about it.
Speaker B:That's fair.
Speaker C:So I love Tarantino because he just kind of does.
Speaker C:He chooses a historical backdrop and then just does whatever he wants within that story.
Speaker C:This is one of my favorites because I do loved World War II history in that kind of time frame.
Speaker C:And the team he assembled for this is, bar none, amazing.
Speaker C:Christoph Waltz is phenomenal.
Speaker C:And, you know, then you just throw in Brad Pitt as Aldo the Apache, and they.
Speaker C:Those two playing kind of antagonist to each other, completely opposite.
Speaker C:That are both brilliant in their own way.
Speaker C:Like, it just comes together very, very nicely and well done.
Speaker C:And I enjoy this movie quite a bit.
Speaker C:Yeah, I picked it, and I wanted to give Madison something to look forward to.
Speaker C:I've been kind of mean to him the last seven or eight years.
Speaker B:That's funny.
Speaker B:Was this his first time?
Speaker B:And I don't know.
Speaker B:I'd have to go back and look so twin.
Speaker B:Quentin Tarantino is kind of hit and miss with me, but I do enjoy this one.
Speaker B:But was this the first time that he kind of took his history, like, actual written history, and, like, revamped it in an utterly insane way?
Speaker B:Because, like, yeah, what happens to Hitler obviously didn't happen, but, like, it was this the first time.
Speaker B:Because I'm trying to think of what else.
Speaker B:Like, I don't think, like, Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker B:I know Pulp Fiction, but he's obviously done it since then because Once Upon a Time in Hollywood did the same thing in this.
Speaker B:It was in the same vein and then.
Speaker C:But, yeah, nothing else.
Speaker C:This was the first one, kind of.
Speaker C:Because Kill Bill didn't really do it either.
Speaker A:No, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I was gonna say, like, I.
Speaker B:This one was interesting, and I.
Speaker B:Again, Quentin Tarantino is hit and miss.
Speaker B:Like, I think early on, like, he was one of my favorites.
Speaker B:Like, I love Pulp Fiction's great, and I'm not a vignette kind of guy, but, like, that one works for me, the way it twists and turns and then brings it all back at the end.
Speaker B:But then I really liked Reservoir Dogs as well.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I will say that, like, he lost me on some of, like, the middle like, when he did the one where he.
Speaker B:Robert Rodriguez.
Speaker B:The double feature one where he.
Speaker B:I don't remember the one he did, but anyway, I didn't love that one.
Speaker B:But this one, when.
Speaker B:When this one came out, like, I was kind of hesitant to go see it because I was like, he hasn't done much that I've been excited about since Pulp Fiction, but this one just hit different.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:And I'll say this has one of the greatest openings, in my opinion.
Speaker B:Like, that opening scene on the farm and, like, with Christoph Waltz just, like, being an utter horrifying human being, like, because he's just so calm and nice and polite.
Speaker B:And then there's that moment when he switches and he's telling this guy.
Speaker B:We've had this entire conversation so that you have no mistake that I know that you're hiding people in your floorboards.
Speaker B:Like, and his face changes.
Speaker B:Like, there's a look in his eye.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, we just watched greatness.
Speaker B:And then, like, at the end, he shouts out, like, the guy's up in the best possible way for a movie like this.
Speaker B:Like, and that set the tone.
Speaker B:And I've got some criticisms that we'll talk about, but that I was like, I'm gonna like this movie for that first 30 minutes, regardless of the rest of it.
Speaker B:And then there's some other great parts too, but, like, geez, that opening scene is insane.
Speaker A:The other scene that I didn't expect is when he strangles the movie actress.
Speaker A:I didn't think he was just gonna outright, like, go for it right there.
Speaker A:Like, whoa, okay.
Speaker A:Like, you knew.
Speaker A:I mean, you knew immediately.
Speaker A:Like, when they said their Italian was like, just like, okay.
Speaker A:And grads.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah, whoa, you're dead.
Speaker A:Like, how.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're gone.
Speaker C:Yeah, Gorlami.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And to your point, like, yeah, that's one thing about Tarantino that I like, especially in this movie.
Speaker B:Like, he.
Speaker B:There is no boundaries.
Speaker B:Like, he'll do whatever.
Speaker B:And again, to your point, like, to tell the story he wants to tell, like, he'll do whatever.
Speaker B:Including killing off a lot of, like, big characters died.
Speaker A:Like, you're like, what?
Speaker A:Because for me, I'd never seen this movie all the way through.
Speaker A:I realized as I watched, I was like, oh, my gosh, I'd never.
Speaker A:I'd seen enough of it, but I hadn't seen all the way through.
Speaker A:And I would.
Speaker A:There was a couple times, like, I can't believe they just died.
Speaker A:Like, that's a very well known actress or actor.
Speaker A:Like, they're gone.
Speaker A:Okay, well, all right.
Speaker A:I guess no one's safe from dying in this movie.
Speaker A:Potentially the only thing that got me.
Speaker A:And I knew halfway there, like, I was like, I don't think this scene is in this movie.
Speaker A:I wanted the, I think it's an.
Speaker A:Is it in Valkyrie with the Hitler scene where he like, he freaks out.
Speaker A:That whole speech, that monologue, he's like.
Speaker A:And he's like freaking out.
Speaker B:The one that they meme on all the different, like, yeah, that one naked about everything.
Speaker B:That's actually a, that's not Valkyrie either.
Speaker B:I don't think I'm trying to remember what.
Speaker A:I need to go watch that movie just so I can appreciate that again.
Speaker A:I wanted that to be in this movie because to me, that was the only thing I was like, I needed some crazy Hitler scene.
Speaker A:Like, I needed him to like, just lose his marbles.
Speaker A:I think they missed out on that, to be honest.
Speaker A:I, I, I feel like that would have fit really well in this movie and could have been awesome, but they never gave me that.
Speaker A:I really wanted that, like, really, really, really bad.
Speaker A:Besides that, the, like, opening scene, awesome acting is awesome.
Speaker A:Things are satirical and over the top.
Speaker A:The thing with Tarantino movies that get me sometimes is the pace.
Speaker A:Like, I have to like, you got to, you got to take the, the good and the bad with that, like, I know going in, I'm like, okay, like there's, it's going to be dialogue heavy.
Speaker A:Thankfully, the dialogue is usually supreme, but at times it's still like it can, it can take a little bit of its toll on you where like another director could give you dialogue, but supplement it with a little bit more eye catchy action that like, helps you through, but that's not Tarantino's.
Speaker A:And like, I'm not here to say doesn't need to do that, but I think at times this is the type of movie, like, do I want to go watching Glorious Basterds tomorrow or two weeks from now or a month from now?
Speaker A:Yeah, like, probably not.
Speaker A:But when I do re watch it again, there's great scenes, it's interesting, it's funny at times.
Speaker A:And I'll like be like, oh man, that's great movie.
Speaker A:But it, it does give me as a viewer some fatigue at times, but I don't think it's, it's a great movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think one of my biggest gripes with Tarantino in general is he gets bloated in some of it, like, because it's so dialogue heavy.
Speaker B:Two and a half hours is longer than this movie needs to be.
Speaker B:And I'm.
Speaker B:I've always said two hours is the sweet spot for me most of the time, as long as it's entertaining and interesting.
Speaker B:But, like, even this one, I think 2 hours and 15 minutes probably could have been okay.
Speaker B:I think there's an argument for a two hour version of this movie, but I think two hours and fifteen makes a lot of sense because there is a lot of dialogue in this one specifically, even more so than, I think a lot of his others that are very pertinent.
Speaker B:And I think it's.
Speaker B:The dialogue is very interesting in this movie.
Speaker B:Especially like that bar scene.
Speaker B:First of all, the scene before it where Fassbender and Pit are having it in a bar or in a basement.
Speaker B:Like, that whole back and forth about where he says in a basement like six times, like, makes me laugh because you know this is going to be a show because he's.
Speaker B:They spend so much time leading into it with the basement argument.
Speaker B:The instant you walk down there and there's all these German soldiers and you can just see they're like, God damn it.
Speaker B:And so, like, it's just great.
Speaker B:But I think that's one thing and, and even this one suffers a little bit from the.
Speaker B:I call it the Tarantino bloat because he.
Speaker B:The one thing about him is he'll.
Speaker B:He's gonna do whatever the.
Speaker B:He wants.
Speaker B:He's gonna make his movie, which I respect, but sometimes he gets a little this.
Speaker A:It's like sometimes it doesn't know when to let it go because, like, the bar scene was intriguing, but then they play the game and it's like, man, you, like, maybe you could have ended like four minutes sooner than that because you still drove home with a really clever, witty, catchy dialogue.
Speaker A:But do you always just go one step too far?
Speaker A:Like the opening scene, did it go.
Speaker A:Was it long?
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker A:But that to me set up what that character was and how he was so smart.
Speaker A:You knew he was going to catch people like that needed it.
Speaker A:But like the, the Nazi officer, like, hey, like, sure, but do I care about him as much as I care as some of these other people know?
Speaker A:And I think that's just where maybe like someone that told Tarantino no, which nobody exists, that's going to do that with his film.
Speaker A:But if he had someone that could like do that in his corner, saving him from himself, that's all I would say.
Speaker A:But at the same time, I mean, what a.
Speaker A:What a great.
Speaker A:Pretty wild.
Speaker C:Yeah, I followed why he did that.
Speaker C:Even Though I don't really like it so much.
Speaker C:But it's all leading up to that stupid three joke, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And so I get.
Speaker C:I get where he was going.
Speaker C:But, yeah, it's.
Speaker C:It's too much because you can do that much quicker.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:The extra dialogue, right.
Speaker C:Like, I could have done less with Gary and Gibbles and, you know, the Frederick Zoller.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:But give.
Speaker C:Give me two and a half hours of Christoph Waltz.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:His processes.
Speaker C:Because he could go on a 5, 10 minute monologue, and it's the most enrapting part of the film.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Versus, you know, you have all this extra going in that you're like.
Speaker C:You know, you mentioned it.
Speaker C:The Tarantino bloat, where it's like, okay, you could have sped this up a bit, but I know why you did it.
Speaker C:But you didn't have to, right?
Speaker C:You're.
Speaker C:You're now well known enough.
Speaker C:Just go ahead and get to the point.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:1.
Speaker B:He was relatively unknown at this point too, wasn't he?
Speaker B:I mean, at least in American circles.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, he's been around in Germany for a long time, but I don't think.
Speaker B:Yeah, because he did, like, a.
Speaker B:Pretty sure he did a German version of the Orient Express, which is weird.
Speaker B:But, yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway, like, he was relatively unknown, but I could watch anything that he's in.
Speaker B:Christoph Waltz, sign me up.
Speaker B:Like, I'll watch it just to watch him.
Speaker B:And that opening scene started, but then I.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's tough, too, because the one that really got me the most in this was Brad Pitt.
Speaker B:Like, when he first pops up in that second act like, scene with as freaking Aldo Rain.
Speaker B:Like, that whole speech to the soldiers.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:The debit part.
Speaker B:Like, Casey.
Speaker B:Okay, so Casey had never seen this movie, and she's not a Tarantino fan, but, like, she watched until she fell asleep about halfway through, which I was like, hey, that says something too.
Speaker B:But, like, we're.
Speaker B:So we're watching this.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And when he's like, you take on debit?
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:She's like, did he.
Speaker B:Did he just say debit instead of debt?
Speaker B:I'm like, yep.
Speaker B:She goes, why does that make so much sense for this character?
Speaker B:I'm like, because it works.
Speaker B:Like, the whole.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:But seeing Brad Pitt as that character, like, I just love.
Speaker B:Like, it's just another testament to him, like, where he can.
Speaker B:It's kind of a chameleon.
Speaker B:Like, he can be pretty much any act, any character.
Speaker B:But, like, I love him as this character.
Speaker B:Too.
Speaker B:Like, his speech every time he.
Speaker B:This might be my masterpiece.
Speaker B:Like, every.
Speaker B:And, like, the whole.
Speaker B:Are you gonna take that Nazi uniform off?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:Yeah, there is those two for me.
Speaker B:Just absolute scene stealers.
Speaker B:Like, this movie would not be good without Christoph Waltz and Brad Pitt in it.
Speaker B:Like, it would be manageable, but it wouldn't be good.
Speaker B:Like, I want to watch those two idiots go on a road trip together.
Speaker B:Like, dude, just the.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's the sheer beauty of the dialogue with those two.
Speaker B:And then for them to be.
Speaker B:And you get.
Speaker B:It's kind of an interesting thing because you watch both of them have these solitary scenes where they're just absolutely acting the.
Speaker B:Out of it.
Speaker B:And then when they finally get to come together at the end during the negotiation scene or whatever, like, so good.
Speaker B:Just so good.
Speaker B:Well, I don't need him.
Speaker B:Ah, I'm gonna get my ass chewed.
Speaker B:Burst.
Speaker C:I've been chewed out before.
Speaker B:I've been chewed out before.
Speaker B:I might get chewed out, but I'm gonna.
Speaker B:Chewed out before.
Speaker B:Yeah, Like, I just.
Speaker B:That whole.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:The dynamic between those two.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's a reason Tarantino keeps pulling two of them up, since it is too, because, yeah, they're.
Speaker B:They're great in his movies, but I don't know.
Speaker B:And this is another one that's like.
Speaker B:It's just so original because it shocked me the first time I watched it.
Speaker B:It, like, the whole movie theater scene, like, when they just start murking everybody and, like, they make Swiss cheese out of Hitler, I'm like, whoa, what is going on right now?
Speaker B:Like, I was like, I don't remember that.
Speaker C:In eighth grade history.
Speaker B:Wait, what?
Speaker B:I was like, that's not how that worked.
Speaker B:I was like.
Speaker B:And I gu.
Speaker B:Nobody really knows.
Speaker B:And so at least not that they've told everybody in public.
Speaker B:So it's like, it could be anything that happened to him.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:But at the same time, it's just like, that's an interesting way to play this whole thing out.
Speaker B:And, like.
Speaker B:Yeah, but I.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was another one that I was just like, okay, didn't see that coming.
Speaker B:But that was great.
Speaker B:But I do love the ridiculousness of the whole movie theater thing, too.
Speaker B:Like, with the Italian accents and, like, try to.
Speaker B:Like, it just is.
Speaker B:You could tell they.
Speaker B:Without Fazbender.
Speaker B:They're just so.
Speaker B:And it's just so great.
Speaker B:But they.
Speaker B:Because they just like, I don't care.
Speaker B:We're gonna do it anyway.
Speaker C:We'll make it work.
Speaker B:Yeah, we'll figure it Out.
Speaker A:No, I mean, that's.
Speaker A:The movie is so over the top.
Speaker A:Because in real life, if you knew you spoke that little Italian, you're not doing that.
Speaker A:Never.
Speaker A:Not ever.
Speaker A:Yeah, because if the actress, whatever her, she'd be like, well, speak a little Italian to me.
Speaker A:And that's how he.
Speaker A:She'd be like, no.
Speaker A:And her cast, like, what did they cast her in?
Speaker A:A heel?
Speaker A:Like, like, what?
Speaker A:Like, what was that about?
Speaker B:So ridiculous.
Speaker B:I swear, that's a Tarantino shot at Hollywood.
Speaker B:Like, that's him with feet.
Speaker B:Yeah, him and him and Hollywood.
Speaker B:And, like, you know, the fact that somebody.
Speaker B:We would be vain enough to have them cast with their heel on, like, could see him doing that, too.
Speaker B:Just because then, you know, they're not limping down the hot.
Speaker B:The thing.
Speaker B:They're walking because it's the same height.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Tarantino's a prick that way.
Speaker B:Like, there's a reason he does everything.
Speaker B:You just have to figure it out.
Speaker B:But, yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker B:Like, that's a wild scene, but it's still funny as hell, too.
Speaker B:Like, I think that's the part that I love the most about it is, like, it's so ridiculous, and yet I love it.
Speaker B:And normally I'm like, come on.
Speaker B:And there's a part of me that's like, that's just not gonna happen to Madsen's point.
Speaker B:But I laugh my ass off when they're just like.
Speaker B:And they're being all serious, too.
Speaker B:Like, but he can't.
Speaker B:It's just great.
Speaker B:It's great.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I did.
Speaker C:Like, they kind of mixed a little bit of the ridiculous audacity with some of the common sense.
Speaker C:Like, you have the one guy.
Speaker C:When they're discussing who speaks the most Italian, it's like.
Speaker C:And, Donnie, you speak third best.
Speaker C:And it's like, I don't speak Italian.
Speaker C:And so, like, that's exactly what Matthew was kind of saying.
Speaker C:Like, no, we don't speak Italian.
Speaker C:But then you just have the audacity, you know, the just out there kind of brazenness where it's like, yeah, that's what I said.
Speaker C:Third best.
Speaker C:Just keep your mouth shut.
Speaker C:We'll make it through all day.
Speaker C:Yeah, but you have this.
Speaker C:You have a nice little mix thrown in there of that common sense to where, like, okay, yeah, that, that.
Speaker C:Like, this.
Speaker C:This isn't gonna work.
Speaker C:But then he just immediately squashes it with, yeah, just shut up and it'll be fine.
Speaker C:Like, nobody asked for your opinion.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's great.
Speaker A: stuff over the past, like in: Speaker A:So in this movie, when it calls out, like, Guring and Goebbels and shoot, I should remember a couple of the other people's names, but they all, like, kind of looked like them.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, man.
Speaker A:I felt more realistic.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker A:I know who these people are.
Speaker A:I know why Go roll.
Speaker A:Or Goebbels would care about this film being so well received and, like, having the approval from Hitler and, like, caring so much about where this premiere is, because he literally did care about all that stuff very deeply.
Speaker A:And they all were looking for ways to impress Hitler.
Speaker A:So I was like, as brazen and weird as it sounds, like this would have been like, a real, like, feasible thing that could have gone on.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:Tarantino just obviously ramped up the satire, but I was like, yeah, it's probably what happened May.
Speaker A:They probably did have some, like, promotional movie premiere.
Speaker A:And, yeah, having a super soldier that literally couldn't miss two.
Speaker A:Two bullets to the kneecaps, one to the chest, and, like, unlimited ammo killed, like, 60 British and American soldiers.
Speaker A:Like, no problem.
Speaker A:Like, oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:The serious propaganda machine that was churning out at that time from that side.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:I appreciate that, too.
Speaker B:And the fact that.
Speaker B:Look, I love the scene, too, where they are introducing the bastards from the other side and, like, cut into that.
Speaker B:Almost what you're looking for, where the Hitler character, nine, nine, nine, nine, like, and he's telling him, no, we're gonna keep this quiet.
Speaker B:And then he's like, send in the fact we're not even gonna call him the bear too.
Speaker B:Anymore.
Speaker B:Like, and then, like, they bring him in and, like, I like that scene of, like, how it's played of Hitler trying to mitigate the problems that this squad is causing.
Speaker B:Like, and you.
Speaker B:No, you're not to tell anyone that that's what happened.
Speaker A:I just wanted to freak out more.
Speaker A:Like, I thought that was perfectly teed up.
Speaker A:Because what we know about Haley, he had a temper.
Speaker A:I was like, man, he could have just blown a gasket right here.
Speaker A:It was everything you just said.
Speaker A:It was funny and clever.
Speaker A:I was like, he could.
Speaker A:I would have taken two more minutes of explosive dialogue.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I'm with you.
Speaker B:That's one of the funniest meme like when people make videos of that clip that you're talking about, like about the million different things that Hitler could be screaming and yelling about, like he does in that movie.
Speaker B:And I wish.
Speaker A:What movie is that from?
Speaker A:Because that scene, I mean, is meme like lore.
Speaker A:Like you can put almost anything superimposed on that.
Speaker A:And it's funny.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:I'm pretty sure I've seen ones about Ohio State football on there.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, it's like you can literally plug in anything and it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker B:I don't know what movie.
Speaker B:I'll have to look it up.
Speaker B:We'll have to do.
Speaker A:I gotta look that up too.
Speaker A:Because that's a.
Speaker A:I wanted that to be in this.
Speaker A:But yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker A:This is a.
Speaker A:A fun and odd and.
Speaker A:But I was gonna say, like, man, you want to make a movie, just put Nazis in it, like as your villain.
Speaker A:Like, it's hard not to.
Speaker A:It's hard not to go.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Because it's a universal hate.
Speaker A:Like you've already.
Speaker A:You don't even have to explain it.
Speaker A:It's just there.
Speaker A:And then you can also just make fun of them and it's perfect.
Speaker A:I give you more.
Speaker A:That's why I love Indiana Jones.
Speaker A:Because when they don't have them in there, it's not as funny.
Speaker A:That's why number two was fine.
Speaker A:But it could have been better.
Speaker A:Put some Nazis in there.
Speaker A:They were looking for that treasure too.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker B:Yeah, It's a movie called Downfall.
Speaker A:Downfall.
Speaker A:I gotta watch it because I don't even think I've seen it.
Speaker B:German film.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:2004.
Speaker A:Downfall.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It talks a little bit about how.
Speaker A:That became like 2 hours and 30 minutes.
Speaker C:That's 2 hours and 30 minutes of German cinema.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Translated, that's a six hour American film.
Speaker A:You think so?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:When you got to read the dialogue the whole time, it sure the is.
Speaker A:It's got good reviews though.
Speaker A:94 from 50, 000 plus popcorn, O meter and 90 from the critics.
Speaker B:Yeah, geez.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've never seen it either.
Speaker B:But we know, you know, everybody knows me in subtitles.
Speaker B:That's a rough deal for me.
Speaker C:But so that is something because there's a lot of German in this movie.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:How did you.
Speaker C:How do you handle the subtitles with it?
Speaker C:JJ.
Speaker B:Youh know, I get.
Speaker B:I got really frustrated at the first time I watched it, like, because it starts in French and there's a lot of French, a lot of German, and then some really shitty Italian.
Speaker B:But, like, it's.
Speaker B:It's one of those things where I got really frustrated at first because it was all in French, but then I was like, okay, I get it.
Speaker B:And I think it's smart that he did it because it fits what you're doing.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:I mean, I'll always get frustrated when I have to read it.
Speaker B:Like, I always laugh because I'm like, some movies, like, people get pissed when they're like, well, you know, it's.
Speaker B:Why wasn't this movie in English?
Speaker B:And at the same time, I'm like, because it didn't take place in England.
Speaker B:Like, or in America or in England or somewhere that's English speaking as a.
Speaker B:Why would they speak English in Germany Occupied France.
Speaker B:Like, it's just.
Speaker B:They're not going to for the most part.
Speaker B:Except for I'm going to switch to English because I'm assuming that these people laying in the floorboards don't speak it.
Speaker B:When he made that statement, what a filthy.
Speaker B:For the fact that I haven't heard anybody means to me that they don't speak English, I'm like, oh, you are a nasty son of a.
Speaker B:And you are.
Speaker B:To me, that was the instance where, like, I love the whole rat speech.
Speaker B:Like, I get that.
Speaker B:That was clever too, and smart.
Speaker B:But like, when he says that line of.
Speaker B:I'm assuming they don't speak English because they haven't heard.
Speaker B:I haven't heard anything.
Speaker B:So I'm going to switch back to French.
Speaker B:Keep up my charade.
Speaker B:I'm like, you are.
Speaker B:That's when I really fell in love with that character being super intelligent.
Speaker B:I was like, damn.
Speaker B:So, I mean, I dealt with it and I think partially because in.
Speaker B:In this case, it really adds to it in theory.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:But I always get annoyed when I have to read.
Speaker B:Like, because I have a harder time processing everything all at the same time.
Speaker B:When I'm reading, I'm so focused on reading that I'm missing, like, the visuals.
Speaker B:And I know it's a me problem.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it's not that hard.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:It is for me.
Speaker B:Like, I struggle.
Speaker B:My attention span is.
Speaker B:Can only go so far.
Speaker B:But, yeah, it's manageable.
Speaker B:I do get annoyed at some.
Speaker B:I also get annoyed in the bar because that scene's almost entirely German in German.
Speaker B:And so I'm like, ugh, can we move along here?
Speaker A:But that part I can get more behind because I get at the beginning intention kind of why they did that, as you just talked about it kind of showed just added to that character.
Speaker A:I can.
Speaker A:I Can get behind that.
Speaker A:But bar sim.
Speaker A:Like, look, you've transitioned back to English.
Speaker A:Like, we.
Speaker A:We know that they're speaking a different language, but where this is also the one English movie.
Speaker A:Like, that's when I start to get annoyed with a little bit of that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because the fact that you got to go back and show, oh, they can speak multiple.
Speaker A:I, Like, I already know that.
Speaker A:Like, it's okay.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't need that layer.
Speaker A:But again, that's a Tarantino thing.
Speaker A:Just saying, like, screw you.
Speaker A:I'm doing.
Speaker A:I want.
Speaker B:Yeah, but that scene also doesn't work quite as well if they're not speaking German because it's the accent bottom.
Speaker B:So it's like.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker B:Like, I, I understand why, but I, I just.
Speaker B:For me, it's a personal thing.
Speaker B:It said to me, it doesn't detract from the film at all, except for.
Speaker B:For me, because I just don't like it.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, I just get annoyed by it.
Speaker B:But that's a personal preference.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think the middle part of this movie, from about halfway into the bar scene to the ending, when they planned.
Speaker B:When they pull Aldo Rain out and they start the negotiation up until that point between the middle of the bar scene and that, like, I'm.
Speaker B:I kind of lose a little bit interest.
Speaker B:Like, that part takes too long for me in those.
Speaker B:And I think a lot of it has to do with the bar scene.
Speaker B:But I also think the lead up into the cinema scene and then the cinema, the.
Speaker B:The playing out of everything that's going on in the movie theater takes a little too long as well.
Speaker B:Like the whole Daniel Brule, like, the guy, like having the crush on Shoshana cared about that.
Speaker B:Like, that just goes way too.
Speaker B:Like, there's just.
Speaker B:It's typical Tarantino bloat.
Speaker B:Like, it was just.
Speaker B:I get why.
Speaker B:Because in his mind, that completes the story and keeps you on track.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:You could have kept me on track without 20 minutes of that.
Speaker B:Like, I really believe that.
Speaker B:And so it's like, that's where I get frustrated.
Speaker B:But then the end picks back up again.
Speaker B:And then I'm like, okay, we can.
Speaker B:Because you got Brad Pitt and with Christoph Waltz having this, like.
Speaker B:And like when he.
Speaker B:When he freaks out, like, Like a little kid.
Speaker B:Like, that's one of the most genius moments in this entire movie.
Speaker B:Exciting.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like that whole part, I.
Speaker B:I giggle.
Speaker B:I laughed so hard because I was like, that fits this character.
Speaker B:He's like this serious, intelligent, smart.
Speaker B:And he's so not worried about any of this that he just, like, has this goofy kid moment that's like.
Speaker B:It's like a movie.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, I just love that whole aspect of it.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:There's a.
Speaker B:There's a slog in the middle where I'm like, okay, let's move along to the good part.
Speaker B:And I felt that way in the theater.
Speaker B:I remember watching it the first time going, ah.
Speaker B:And there.
Speaker B:Well, there's.
Speaker B:This is Tarantino right here.
Speaker B:We got too much going on a.
Speaker B:That I don't care about.
Speaker B:And most of that doesn't truly add value to the story.
Speaker B:I think that's my biggest problem with the whole bar scene as a whole, is once you get past once it goes into, like, they bring out that the other, like, the.
Speaker B:The major comes out, and he's like.
Speaker B:I'm like, you lost me.
Speaker B:Like, I just was like.
Speaker B:And then it just keeps dragging on and on.
Speaker B:And to me, like, you get the beginning and that whole sequence up to the point where he switches back to French, sets the scene for what the whole movie's about and this whole character and all.
Speaker B:And then at the end, like, the dialogues make sense, but in the middle, like, there was no value add to me other than thinning the herd and setting up the silly Italian scene.
Speaker B:These guys continuing the plan for the bar.
Speaker B:Like, the bar doesn't truly add value to the movie for me.
Speaker B:Most of it, anyway.
Speaker B:Like, I laugh at the first part of it, but then it just goes on and on and on, and I'm like, ugh.
Speaker B:And then, like, the whole introduction part of the movie theater, when they're being ridiculous with the Italian accents, that too.
Speaker B:Like, it's just.
Speaker B:I'm like, okay, find a way to cut a bunch of that.
Speaker B:And I think this may be a perfect movie because it's just so entertaining, but.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, because the suspension of disbelief with the Italian part, I'm like, all right, you've already proven this guy is exceptionally smart.
Speaker A:And what did these people think, these.
Speaker A:Whoever's gonna ask, was this dumb, that they can speak Italian?
Speaker A:Like, come on.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker A:I didn't need all that.
Speaker A:But that being said, pretty dang good movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:On a final note for me anyway, though, too, I love that Christoph Walt's character is constantly insulting the German army in general without, like, he calls them a hawk in that first.
Speaker B:Like, they have to be some majestic, fearsome animal.
Speaker B:But he basically says, yeah, but they think like the hawk, so they're kind of stupid.
Speaker B:Like they don't.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like they don't get it.
Speaker B:And then there's like a moment in that whole scene in the, like where he.
Speaker B:It's like he lets himself say, I'm the smartest guy in the room and I know what you're doing.
Speaker B:I know what's happening.
Speaker B:They're all too stupid to figure it out, so I'm gonna let them die to whatever plan you have.
Speaker B:But I'm gonna then milk my ability to have this be play out to get my little piece of land in Ohio.
Speaker B:And so it's just like I love that aspect of it where he's always constantly, like, even the scene in the.
Speaker B:When he meets Shoshana again and like he's eating the, you know, the dessert and he's stuffing his face and he's talking.
Speaker B:Like he just like so confident and he's like basically saying everybody else around him is stupid.
Speaker B:Like he's too excited.
Speaker B:This guy's too wants his film to be.
Speaker B:He's got a crush on you.
Speaker B:Like, let me make sure that I know what's happening.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, I just.
Speaker B:I like that aspect of it where it's like he's this standalone character almost that knows what's going on and then it ends up getting him in the end.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker A:It was in Ohio.
Speaker A:No one wants to live there.
Speaker A:It was the Nantucket island.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker A:Big difference there.
Speaker A:Big, big difference.
Speaker B:Boy did it.
Speaker B:Wasn't it something that he ends up in Ohio though?
Speaker B:Like, wasn't the land that he.
Speaker B:Something had to do with Ohio?
Speaker B:I swear.
Speaker C:You'Re mixing your movies and you're making Patriot.
Speaker B:That could be true.
Speaker B:I don't think so.
Speaker B:I hate the Patriot.
Speaker B:I hate that movie.
Speaker C:I think you're mixing it up because.
Speaker B:I love that Maybe.
Speaker B:Maybe it's the general.
Speaker B:They give him a bunch of land in Ohio or something.
Speaker B:I don't know, the Ohio Valley, whatever.
Speaker A:Oh, he does say that.
Speaker A:I know the exact scene you're talking about.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Tell me more about the Ohio.
Speaker B:Yeah, that could be it.
Speaker B:Anyway, funny scenes.
Speaker A:Dedicate on the Patriot.
Speaker A:Get out of here.
Speaker B:I hate that movie.
Speaker B:Anyway, talk about some historical inaccuracies.
Speaker B:Anyway, we won't go there.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's rate this thing.
Speaker B:All right, Alex, you're first, buddy.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:My movie.
Speaker C:This is tough.
Speaker C:That's a tough one for me to rate because there is parts that I would definitely change.
Speaker C:And the kind of.
Speaker C:The biggest one is that it's titled Inglorious Basterds, but the bastards really aren't in it that much.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:From a few scenes here or there, like, they're not in it.
Speaker A:It's a fair point.
Speaker C:And so it's.
Speaker C:And I think I would really enjoy it if there was more playing into Brad Pitt and Christoph Waltz being more antagonistic and kind of that.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The relationship from afar.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Learning about each other before they actually meet in person.
Speaker C:Because I think you could really have a better theater scene if they've heard of each other.
Speaker C:You know, this is the Apache, although the Apache meets the Jew Hunter.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And you could have a little bit more buy into that.
Speaker C:Whereas now that scene is more played for laughs.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:We as the audience know that Christoph Waltz's character is this extremely intelligent individual.
Speaker C:The bastards don't have a clue.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So he's messing with them to.
Speaker C:That entire scene.
Speaker C:It's played for laughs for us.
Speaker C:But they.
Speaker C:You know, to them, they're just meaning some, you know, a National Socialist official.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:They don't.
Speaker C:They don't have no care in the world.
Speaker C:And so I think if you had played into a little bit more and cut out the stupid.
Speaker C:I don't want to say stupid, but the Shoshana part.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Because the only.
Speaker C:In my opinion, the reason why that is there is to tie into the beginning.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker C:And I don't need that.
Speaker C:I think if you play more with the bastards going up against, you know, the Jew Hunter from afar, you know, almost like a chess match where it's move and counter move, then you have a better payout.
Speaker C:The end to where they finally get to sit down and, you know, then it's more of like, hey, guess what?
Speaker C:I beat you.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:So I'm setting the terms of how we're gonna end the war, and then when the, you know, switcheroo comes down, and for the first time in the entire movie, Christoph Waltz is no longer in control, then it becomes even a bigger kind of, you know, gotcha or type of a thing.
Speaker C:So, I mean, I.
Speaker C:That's a very long way to say I'm gonna give it a three and a half and I will watch it again.
Speaker B:Fair enough.
Speaker B:Fair enough.
Speaker B:I'm gonna give it a four and a half.
Speaker B:And I think the only thing that drives me crazy is the bloat in the middle.
Speaker B:Like, I think if we were to cut.
Speaker B:And I'm with you, like, I.
Speaker B:Shoshana's storyline feels like just this thorough line that goes through the whole movie to keep it all Tied together on some level, but I don't know that it's the most interesting storyline outside of the beginning.
Speaker B:And then, like, I just think it's one of those things that help carry the movie through and connect the pieces.
Speaker B:So I think it suffers a little bit from that.
Speaker B:And then I think there's some too much dialogue in the middle that slows it down for me.
Speaker B:But that's my only beef is that I.
Speaker B:I get to a point where I'm like, I could Skip the next 20 minutes and just be okay, because it doesn't house anything that really moves the story forward for me or makes it interesting.
Speaker B:Like, what I want to see is the weird and the dialogue that makes sense versus the stuff that just felt like Tarantino goes, I think this would be clever right here.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like, and that's.
Speaker B:Or he's got a piece of dialogue that he wrote that he wants to play off of it, and so he's like, I'll stuff it in the middle of this movie, and it'll just be to put them in a ridiculous scenario.
Speaker B:And so it's like, it just felt unnecessary to do.
Speaker B:And so, anyway.
Speaker B:But that.
Speaker B:I love this movie.
Speaker B:I think it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:In my opinion, one of the.
Speaker B:I think it's probably the second best Tarantino film to me outside of Pulp Fiction, but I.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just love it.
Speaker B:But I think that also comes from Christoph Waltz and Brad Pitt.
Speaker B:I think they absolutely carry this movie for sure.
Speaker B:But, yeah, four and a half for me.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I will definitely watch it again when I'm in a Tarantino mood.
Speaker A:I'll give it a 4.
Speaker A:Great movie, great acting, interesting story.
Speaker A:I've kind of said what I.
Speaker A:What would have taken it to five is being a little bit shorter.
Speaker A:As we talked about.
Speaker A:I wanted a cooler Hitler scene.
Speaker A:I think if it had had that, I mean, I would have been on cloud nine.
Speaker A:I think it'd have been great.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'll definitely watch it again.
Speaker A:It won't be for a while because it's kind of.
Speaker A:It's an investment, but I love history, but I love the spin that they put on it and what almost could have been in a different way.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it was.
Speaker A:It was a good watch because I'd never seen all the way through.
Speaker A:Happy to have done it.
Speaker A:And Brad Pitt's character is my favorite.
Speaker B:Aldo Rain.
Speaker B:Lieutenant Aldo Rain.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:It's great.
Speaker B:I also love the intro to Stiglitz.
Speaker B:Like, had to have Sam Jackson in this.
Speaker B:So let's.
Speaker B:Let's have him introduce Hugo Stiglitz.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:I like tell everybody where they can find us.
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