In this episode we’re excited to welcome back enneagram and addiction expert Michael Naylor to talk about his recent book: The Alchemy of the Enneagram in Transforming Addiction

2:15 The hardest part of writing the book. 

5:00 Michael’s intended audience(s) for the book. 

8:15 How the enneagram offers additional insight into addiction. 

12:30 Why he chose to use “alchemy” in the title.

16:05 Can you use the enneagram in a non-conscious way? 

18:00 Creek’s sad amazon tale

19:00 Re: the concept of “transforming addiction”

23:15 Why do certain people struggle with addictions and others don’t? 

25:30 Any wisdom on using the levels of health?

29:00 What Michael is most proud of in the book. 

Find Michael’s book wherever you order books online! 

Check out Michael’s website: www.enneagrammaine.com 

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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

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