Introducing: The Year Of Podcasting.

For the podcaster that wants to go ALL IN on their podcast marketing in 2024.

By ALL IN I mean

• using your podcast as the anchor of your marketing system
• creating and implementing a solid growth plan for your podcast
• building out automations to convert your podcast listeners to buyers
• creating a repeatable system to repurpose and maximize your podcast content

If you want to stop wasting your time spinning wheels with your podcast (or actually get your podcast launched INTENTIONALLY and strategically) then this is for you.

The Year Of Podcasting is all about DOING. And having support along the way.

It’s not another membership where you just get lumped in with everyone else and fed the same trainings and you have to find your own way. And it’s not open enrollment where anyone can just jump in at anytime

It’s not just another course you will never open.

It’s not a group program with specific pillars we go over each month….

It’s a container (I hate the word) where we CUSTOMIZE a plan for you and your podcast for the year based on your goals and where you are at. And then we work to IMPLEMENT your roadmap together.

And you have me there to hold you accountable (built into the container) and support you along the way.

And you have community to collaborate and support you and leverage.

Basically, if you want to stop throwing spaghetti against the wall and hope it sticks when it comes to your podcast. This is for you.

We start Feb 1. By Feb 1 2025 you will be able to say “look what I accomplished and DID” not just “this is what I learned”.

Because knowledge without action is useless. I could teach you every podcasting tip and trick and write you the most amazing podcast strategy in the world… but if you don’t implement it, what good does it do?

BONUS: if you PIF for the year (or get into a higher tier) you get a free ticket to Podcasts and Prosecco this April in Nashville!

Go to podcastthatpays.com to learn more

see you there,

Angie

What's up?

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It's Angie.

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I hope you had a beautiful, beautiful

holiday season and I'm so excited to

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talk to you about the year of podcasting.

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2024 is the year of podcasting.

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So what does that mean?

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Well, number one, that's

the name of my new offer.

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That's the name of the

new thing that I'm doing.

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That's not a membership, not a

group program and not a course

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and not entirely one on one.

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I love to say that because people are

like, well, what the fuck is it then?

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And I love to, uh, to keep people

in suspense, but I will get to that.

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But what I wanted to talk about the

year of podcasting is the last year.

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What had happened was Everybody, not

everyone, but a lot of people's worlds

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got rocked in the business world.

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Okay, a lot of people got their

business shit turned upside down

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and specifically around marketing,

specifically around social media.

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Um, I think that things did change.

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Some people were fine.

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I mean, obviously people still made sales.

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Obviously, you know, people

weren't, some people did very well.

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People probably had increases

in their revenue this year.

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I'm sure that some people were

fine, so I'm not saying that

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it was a bum year for everyone.

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But, some people's shit got rocked.

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Some people went back to work, which,

hey, there's literally nothing wrong

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with curing your ass back to work and

don't let anybody tell you any different.

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Like, being an entrepreneur can be so

hard and the ups and downs, highs and

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lows, dealing with clients, dealing with

team, dealing with social media, having

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to show up every single day, having to

think about this shit 24 7, not knowing

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where your next money is gonna come from.

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can be hard.

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And so people were coasting around

here for, you know, I don't know,

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2019, 2020, pre COVID or during COVID.

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It seemed almost like I don't know.

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Easy?

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Dare I say easy?

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I don't want to say easy because

I did, I worked my ass off.

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I showed up.

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I was excited.

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I did what I needed to do and

a lot of people did the same.

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So I think there was a

combination of things going on.

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People just got fucking exhausted.

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And then the other thing is,

is that the market changes.

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The market fucking changes.

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I, I don't Talk about this to fear

monger, but I want to talk about this to

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normalize that the shit fucking changes.

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What you do to set up your marketing this

year may not be what's working next year.

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You will have to grow.

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And change and adapt and shift

with the market, especially in

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marketing because our consumers get

tired of the same old, same old.

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So the more that we can be creative,

the more that we can stop being

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the same, the more that we can

sort of step out side of the box.

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Number one, stepping outside of the box.

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I've really been thinking

a lot about that.

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How do we step outside of the box, be

more creative, do things people haven't

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seen done so that we can grab attention.

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Because that's what it's all about.

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It's grabbing attention,

but that the second part of

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that is how do we build out?

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true marketing systems true marketing

systems that support us that run in

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the background for us that are out

there working for us selling our offers

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While we are, , doing everything and

being creative and trying to come

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up with new things It's almost like

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Having that structure and support

for your creativity for your risk

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taking And I feel like in 2023, I

feel like what happened was a lot of

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people found out that they didn't have

any fucking structure and support.

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A lot of people found out that

one little shift to the algorithm,

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or they have to work a little bit

harder, or maybe they were burnt out.

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Like, and a lot of people found out

that You know, it's not all, yes, it's

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easy to reach out and touch people

on social media, but it's also hard.

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It's also, yes, it's

free, but it also costs.

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It costs time and energy and effort.

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No marketing is truly free, just

so you know, is my thoughts.

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Like no marketing is truly free.

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This is something that requires time

and effort and it requires money.

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back to year of podcasting because I

love this for us and I love this for me.

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So , why did I do year of podcasting?

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What does that mean?

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, what am I talking about?

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Well, I think it's time.

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I don't think, I know, I know two things.

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Number one, it's time to get back

to the basics and build foundational

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marketing things into your business,

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remember specifically Um, I used

to, uh, if you don't know this about

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me, I started out in the blogging,

dating, I was a dating and relationship

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blogger, uh, back in like 2008 and

everything that we did back then

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was all about blogging, SEO, email.

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writing copy.

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It wasn't, it wasn't at the

time of the social media boom.

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Like this is back at the time when I used

to write statuses like, uh, when Facebook

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used to ask you, what's on your mind?

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And he used to say, I'm writing solo.

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I saw a funny post the other day.

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Oh my God, you have to love

Facebook memories because I saw

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a Facebook memory the other day

and it was like, I'm writing solo.

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And then I looked through the comments

and legitimately my brother's ex

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fiancee is in the comments telling

me about her and my brother's drama.

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And I'm just laughing back and forth.

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Um, she was like, girl, me too.

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And I was like, what'd you mean?

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Like you dated my brother,

girl, like how you writing solo?

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, Anyways, so like, Facebook memories are

hilarious, but also remind me of the time

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that we didn't use Facebook for this shit.

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Like that wasn't our number one

way that we attracted clients.

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Now I will say that it is the easiest way

to reach out and touch people and I love

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that I can do that with social media.

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If I need to go make some money

today, I just, I could just

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hit the social media streets.

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I can message people, I can post

things and I can make money.

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which is beautiful and I love about

social media and I'm never going to say,

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you know, we don't need social media.

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I think it's important for your business.

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Although I have entertained the idea

of doing a, like having all of my

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marketing only come from podcasting.

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So like only using podcasting for

a whole year to market my business,

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to like prove to people that that's

what you can do and not using social

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media, but I like social media.

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I just don't like , for it to be the

thing that I have to depend on and

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that's where I'm going in 2024 is back

to basics, back to solid foundational

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principles, back to How do we get

people to come here organically?

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How do we get people to come and find out

about me without me showing up every day?

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How do we get this

working in the background?

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Back then, In 2008, the way you

did that was through blogging

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and SEO and email, right?

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It was through words you wrote on a

page and how you positioned yourself

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for people who were looking for the

thing that you, that you sold, how you

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position yourself online, um, for those

people to be seen by those people.

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And then we went into

the social media boom.

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So back then it was blogging.

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Now.

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Now, I love, for this,

the podcasting platform.

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Because there's a couple of reasons

why I love this platform so much,

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and if you listen to me, if you

listen to this podcast, you know

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some of those reasons already.

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Reason number one, audio

is so fucking powerful.

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It is so freaking powerful.

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I have a client.

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She's a hypnotherapist.

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When I was helping her outline her

podcast, she was like, I have to

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be so careful what I'm saying in

my podcast because I don't want

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to basically hypnotize people.

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Not hypnotize people, but she knew the

power that audio had, and she wanted to be

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very intentional with her words around it.

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And when she said that, I was like,

Oh my God, that's crazy because

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there is so much power in your words.

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Okay.

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So speaking from a, and I have no

idea, like, science behind that, to be

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honest, . So you might be listening to

that, you might be like, that's totally

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unproven bullshit, and you might be

right, but we're gonna go with it, okay?

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Until someone can disprove that for me.

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Number two, is that it's so, it's much

more accessible to listen to a podcast

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that consume any other form of content.

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It's just so accessible.

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You can listen to it on the go,

you can listen to it while you're

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washing the dishes, you can listen

to it on your commute, you can listen

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to it while you're making dinner.

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So, that fact makes it.

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Easier for people to actually consume it.

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And so they do consume it.

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Like the consumption rate

of a podcast is like 86%.

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Which is crazy higher than any other

consumption rate on any other platform.

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You're not competing with other posts.

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You're not competing

with somebody scrolling.

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Hey, they might be scrolling while

they're listening to your podcast.

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Um, cause I know I do like multiple,

multiple things at one time.

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I'll be watching TV.

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I'll be playing a game.

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I'll be editing a podcast.

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Like I have to have lots

of stimulation at one time.

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I don't really know what that says

about me, but that's just how it is.

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Man, by the way, recording

with a cold is very, very hard.

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Like I'm taking lots of pauses

and having to stop, but I had to

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get this done and I had to talk

about this, but it is very hard.

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So kudos to you.

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If you show up recording

your podcast, win.

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You have a stuffy nose because

you legitimately cannot breathe.

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Like, there's literally, I keep having

to pause to actually take breaths.

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So, number two is that it's actually

accessible and people consume it.

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Number three is that the reason

why I love it is that it's so

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intentional coming to a podcast.

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It's not the same if

I'm scrolling Facebook.

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It's not the same vibes.

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No one is coming to this podcast,

Podcast That Pays, to listen to this.

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No one's coming to listen to this.

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Unless Unless they are interested

in podcasting, they have a podcast,

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or they want to start a podcast.

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That's, that's the only reason that

someone would come to this podcast.

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They didn't just happen upon

here and decide to consume

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this entire podcast episode.

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Like, it's for a purpose.

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It's very intentional.

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And so for that reason, I love the

platform as well, and that's almost,

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that's the same as like blogging as well.

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It's intentional, and the biggest

difference between, you know, blogging

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and podcasting would just be that people

prefer to listen than read these days.

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Like, people's attention

span is like at zero.

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People have to be doing 800

different things at one time.

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So we're all multitasking.

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So we're not sitting here

watching long form videos.

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Sometimes we are.

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But it's less easy to be able

to consume from anywhere.

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And also then reading, you know, is

much harder or requires more effort.

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Right?

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So we want the past path of

least resistance for people.

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So this is why I love podcasting.

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This is why I want to in 2024 is

the year we go all in on podcasting.

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This is the year of podcasting.

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This is the year that we build out amazing

marketing systems around your podcast.

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And I'm saying your podcast,

because this is my new offer.

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And I love it so much and it's also

something that I'm doubling down on in

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my business as well Is how do I use audio

for every freaking thing in my business?

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How do I plug all the

holes in my marketing?

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How do I use audio to do that?

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So for me what that looks like is

Building out my podcast website and

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blog pages and seo around my podcast for

one Um, it also looks like getting more

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traffic to my podcast from Facebook ads.

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It also looks like me growing my

audience through Facebook ads, Facebook,

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Instagram ads, using my podcast content.

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It also looks like building

out funnels from lead magnets,

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using my podcast content.

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It also looks like Having email sequences

that are moving people through my

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sales process using my podcast content.

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It also looks like me being a guest on

other podcasts to get more visibility

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to my podcast, and it also looks like.

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Exploring ways that I could use

audio and actually use podcast ads.

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So me placing ads and other places

where audio is audio only ads.

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So in other podcasts on platforms

that have audio ads and.

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testing those strategies to get

people who are already listening

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to podcasts over to my podcast.

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And then it also looks

like collaborations.

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And how do I lead into my

collaborations in the podcast community

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to help us leverage each other's

audience and grow our podcasts?

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And by growing our podcasts, we then

also are Looking at and digging into

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how are we using our podcast to funnel

people through where are people going?

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How are we being intentional

with our content?

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What how are we using this?

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Right?

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So that's what it looks like for me

And what it looks like for you could

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be different and probably will be

a little bit different depending on

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where you are What your goals are how

much you want to be on social media?

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Whatever that is, right?

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Oh, and one more thing about my podcast

that I are about podcasting that I

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definitely want to do is being more

intentional about using my podcast

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content to repurpose on social media

and create a content calendar on social

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media that is smart and easy for me

where I am not recreating the will, but

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I'm pulling from my podcast content.

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So it's working for me in so many ways.

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2024 is the year that we put

our podcast to work for us.

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Okay.

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Are you, are you, are you with me?

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And we're doing that because

we're getting back to basics.

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We're building a solid foundation.

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So that shit, if you don't want to show

up for a month on social media, you still

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have solid marketing, a solid marketing

system working for you in the background.

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And I think that that's so valuable.

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It's so important.

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And I really want that

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So that's what we're doing.

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That's what we're building out.

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And I want you to join me to do it.

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So if you are in that place where you're

feeling like, yes, , I love podcasting

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or maybe you haven't launched, but you

know that this platform is for you.

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You know that you want to go

deeper than on social media.

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You know that you express yourself

better through audio and you

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want to double doubt on it.

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So, um, if you're new to this podcast

and you're like, you know, I need to put

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a lot more intentionality behind this,

or maybe I'm not getting the results I

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thought that I would get, or maybe you've

been having this podcast idea forever,

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but you just can't seem to get it done.

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You should come and join us so that

we can get it done together, so.

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Year of the podcast, 2024.

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It's the year we go all in, it's the

year we build out marketing systems, it's

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the year we get more intentional, it's

the year we put our podcast to work for

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us, it's the year we start converting

from our podcast, it's the year we start

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growing our audience from our podcast,

it's the year we let our podcast be

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the anchor of our content marketing so

that it makes everything easier for us.

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That's what 2024 is for us, or If you're

joining the year of podcasting, that's

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the goal and let me tell you something.

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The reason why I said not a

membership, not a group program, not

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a course, not a one on one is because

it truly is a hybrid experience.

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It truly is.

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A way to fill this gap of, and I've been

doing this for about five years now.

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And one thing that I see more than

anything is inconsistency is people

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come to me and get strategy like crazy,

but they never show up and do it.

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What people need is accountability,

implementation support, and , customized

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plans and roadmaps for where they are.

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People don't need to be

lumped into a membership.

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And granted I have a membership,

10 a month membership.

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And really I should not

call it a membership.

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I should just call it a subscription

because it's really just a

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subscription to my content.

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So people don't need that because very

few people who are in that membership of

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mine actually launch and get results and

do what they're supposed to be doing.

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Most people just ignore it.

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Most people never even open the content.

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And I mean, I could say that's on me.

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, I know my content is amazing.

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I could say I don't care as long as people

pay me, which to some degree that is true.

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I mean, if you don't want to use

the resource that it's right there

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for you, that has gotten people.

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I mean, even people I work with one

on one, my production clients, I refer

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them to the content in my membership.

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I'm like, hello, go watch this video.

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Hi, go watch this video.

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. Go refer to this, but

most people don't do it.

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I mean, number one, it's a 10 a

month investment, so it's easy

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to forget about and , you're

like, oh, well, it's 10 a month.

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Like I spend that, I blow that in a day.

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And so you're not like super concerned

about losing money or losing out.

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And so it just sits there.

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And so people don't need

a membership, right?

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When it comes to podcasting, people

don't necessarily need a group program

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where it's like, okay, these are the

pillars that we're walking through.

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We're going to do this now.

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We're going to do this.

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Now we're going to do this now because

I know that I've been in group programs.

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I don't always show up for the calls.

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I don't always show up to do the things.

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And it's not just that.

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It's that sometimes the blanket group

program of this month we're doing a,

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and we're going to have this guest

speaker and we're going to have

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this, you know, this month we're

going to have this guest speaker.

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I think people need more customization

and more implementation support

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one on one right to actually

get the results in this area.

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And this is just what I've seen.

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And it's not just a course.

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Yes, there's a training library with lots

of videos and things to access to learn

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I teach, what I teach in podcasting.

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That's included, but

it's there as a resource.

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It's not just another

course you'll never open.

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So, what do they need?

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What is your podcasting?

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It's all about mapping out your roadmap.

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So working together to figure out what

your goals are, mapping out your roadmap

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and have being a community, yes, but

for collaboration, for support, to

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ask questions, whatever you need to

support each other through the process.

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The podcasting community is so

important to your podcast and

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the growth of your podcast.

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I wish that more people

would lead into that.

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And just like what I just said,

like even for me and for my goals,

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community is important because I

want to collaborate with people.

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I want to go be a guest on

other people's podcasts.

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I need to dig into my network in

podcasting to get to my goals and

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to get in front of new people.

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So this is why.

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A year of podcasting was born.

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It's because I saw a gap.

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People aren't getting their shit done.

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People are launching podcasts and they're,

it's not working for their business.

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It's not given what it's supposed to give.

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It's not.

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And I am ready to change that with you.

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I'm ready to help you go all in.

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I want you to grow your podcast.

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I want you to learn how

to market it effectively.

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I want you to learn how to

track and look at the metrics.

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Of what's happening and to

know what steps to take.

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How do we truly grow something if

we don't put intention behind it?

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We don't.

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So anyway, you're podcasting.

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It is a hybrid, a one on one group

program, membership course, all in one.

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You get one on one support, meaning we're

mapping out your own personal roadmap.

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You get to be in community with people.

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We do, instead of having group trainings

weekly or having a guest expert come in

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and talk about something just to fill

the space and have some fluff and to feel

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like you're getting more value, we're

doing something called implementation

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workshops, which means we're going

to implement and work together to

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implement your personalized roadmap.

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So we are going to talk about what are

the things that you're going to accomplish

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in our first quarter of being together.

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So we'll have implementation workshops

where you actually will actually

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get together and work together.

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And say, okay, what do

we need to actually do?

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What are the goals?

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How do we break this down?

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And then, we're also going

to have monthly check ins.

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Because we need accountability.

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People need accountability.

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I'm sorry, I hurt a coach this past fall.

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Leanne Hale, and I love

Leanne if you know her.

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Um, I love her.

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And one of the things I told her

was, I mean, she wasn't giving me

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no, like, Granted, she's very smart.

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Very, very smart.

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Very smart, she helped me double,

triple, I don't know, my sales.

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But a large part of that had to do

with having someone to bounce ideas

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off of, having someone to, having

someone to hold me accountable, having

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someone to be there to support me,

having someone to help me come up

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with a strategy and then implement it.

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teach me, show me how to

implement it or be there with

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me while I was implementing it.

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And I had success.

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And there's something to this.

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I think that this is the direction

that what people are wanting, buyers.

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And if you know Leanne, you know, she

does these trends videos about buyers.

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I'm going to have to ask her.

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I think, I think this is like,

One of the trends is that people

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are wanting customized solutions.

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They don't want to be lumped into like,

here's my course and group program and

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have to figure it out for themselves.

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People are wanting a clear roadmap.

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And so that's what I want to

give you in a year of podcasting.

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So I hope that you will join me.

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And of course I will put, you know,

information about this in the show notes.

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And you can go to podcast.

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pays.

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com and you can check out the offer.

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It is, and I'll just tell you

a little bit about it while

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we're, while we're chatting.

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Um, I'll tell you a little bit about it.

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So there's three tiers.

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There's three different tiers.

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There's the general tier, there's

the implementation tier, and

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then there's the mastery tier.

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So in the general tier, and

here's the things that you get.

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You'll have the training,

you'll have a training library.

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Um, we'll do the implementation

workshops quarterly.

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You get a one on one session with me to

outline the roadmap for your podcast.

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You get monthly accountability check

ins, which are done not by a one on

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one call, but they're done through

a system that'll be automated and

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you'll have to submit Your things

every month and I will review them.

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Um, , you'll get to be in the community

and then once a month, the last week of

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the month, we will have open Voxer access

with me, but it's just one week out of

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the month and you know, Monday to Friday,

you can Vox me in, ask me anything.

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And I'm doing that in lieu of

like a group coaching call.

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I just feel like Voxer is more accessible.

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So, , then the next tier

is the implementation tier.

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You get everything I just told you, plus

you get, podcast production as well.

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So this is where we'll

produce your podcast for you,

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uh, four episodes a month.

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Everything else happens, um,

the same except the monthly

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accountability check ins are monthly

calls that you can have with me.

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And then if you do sign up for the

implementation tier, whether it's

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the payment plan or pay in full,

you get a free ticket to Podcasts

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Prosecco Spring Event, which is

happening in Nashville in April.

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So that's the implementation tier.

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And then the mastery tier.

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It's everything that's included in both

of those things, plus the quarterly

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in person implementation workshops.

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Well, the quarterly workshops are actually

in person where you can come and hang

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out with me and I will rent out a podcast

studio and you can come and record your

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little heart out and you can come and

do work with me, um, and those will be

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once a quarter in person if you want.

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There's gonna be a group VIP weekend

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together and I will take care of you

and you will come and we will work and

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we will map things out and we will hang

out and we will have a lovely time.

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And in addition, you will get social

media assets at this mastery tier.

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So what that means is,

uh, normal production.

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You get, for every episode we would put

in your folder, a social media graphic,

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a quote graphic, and you know, your

edited episode and your transcript.

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So what we're going to do.

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In the mastery tier is we're also

going to do some of your social media

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assets as far as writing posts for you.

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So we will include all of those, you know,

the quote graphics plus an audiogram.

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Plus we're going to write posts for you

it's like five, it's five posts that we

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will write for your social media that

will, you can use to market each episode.

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So every episode will already

come pre marketed for you.

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All you have to do is post the stuff and

we'll do an email per episode as well.

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So that is the difference.

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And then we also quarterly have a metric

update to track growth and progress,

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um, as well in the mastery level.

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Anyway, I'm getting too

much in the weeds here.

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We're talking about the program, but, um,

Like I said, if this is your year, if you

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really know that you want to commit, and

it's only for you if you want to commit,

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and it's not a rolling membership, it's

a, we're starting February 1st, and like,

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you're going all in with me until next

February 1st, and it's closed, , once

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February 1st starts, we're done, and , I

want to keep the integrity of this

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container where I can really work Closely

with people and really get to dig in with

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people and not have lots of different

clients coming in and out and not doing

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work and doing work and people who show

up people don't show up like I want to

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have a solid group of folks that I can

really dig in with and say Okay, this is

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what we're doing this is how we're truly

getting to your goals that you're wanting

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for your podcast and then the goal of this

is like By the end of the year You will

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actually have shit done You will actually

be able to say that you move the mark.

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You will actually be able to say

that, Hey, I implemented this.

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Hey, this was my goal.

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Here is where I got to.

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You'd be able to see clearly how

you got to where you got to in that

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goal, that process, what else you

might need to do, how it works.

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What are the, what are

the results of this?

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And so , you won't spend another

year shooting or another year

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wishing that you had done something.

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You will have had done something for sure.

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So it's like, this, this will

not be another year of you saying

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that you're going to launch

your podcast and not doing it.

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This will not be another year of

you like saying that you should

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double down on your podcast.

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Like that's not what we're doing in 2024.

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That's not what year 2024 is about.

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Year 2024 is about actually moving

the needle and getting results.

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So.

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If you want to do that, if

you're ready to really go all

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in, and that's the other thing.

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This is for people who want to go all

in on their brand and use podcasting

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as an integral part of your brand and

your thought leadership , and how you're

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building your portfolio for speaking

on stages and getting that book deal.

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Like, you gotta make the shit good.

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Like, let's not half step this

shit if you're gonna do it.

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It requires too much time and

energy and effort to then half

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ass it and not maximize it.

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That's the word.

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Let's maximize.

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Let's maximize your efforts this year.

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Let's double down on that.

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Let's take some heavy lifting off of,

like, throwing spaghetti on the wall

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and hoping it sticks and doing all these

things and nothing is working or it's

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not doing what it's supposed to do.

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That's what that's that's the point.

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Okay, so I hope that you'll join me if

you have any questions Feel free to vox

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me hit me on the voxer at angiemjordan.

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Hit me on the voxer hit me on the

two way Do you remember that song

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hit me on the two way by Ginuwine

and do you remember two way pagers?

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Oh my god thought they were the coolest

thing and I can never have one But

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it was essentially just like text

messaging, uh, in a two way pager.

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But anyway, that's neither here nor there.

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But I just, I remember a Ginuwine

song hit me on the two way.

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But he'd be on Voxer.

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He'd be on the two way, Voxer.

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And, um, we could talk about

what tier is right for you.

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Uh, we could talk about

if it's right for you.

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Because I want you to be all in on it.

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I don't want you to

like, not want to do it.

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Like, I don't want you to not be sure.

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I want you to go all in.

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Like, I want you to feel like this is the

platform that you are going to get results

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from, that you love, that you want to use.

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And then we go all in on it.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So thank you so much for listening.

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Hop on over to my Voxer.

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If you have any questions, hop

on over to podcastthatpays.

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com if you want to check out the offer.

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I hope that you again had a beautiful

holiday season and I, um, I hope

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to hear from you and see who I

finally, you know, who I get to work

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with in this year of podcasting.

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I'm so excited.

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Thank you so much for being here

and listening, and I hope you have

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a beautiful rest of your week.