Punk rock will never die!

But punk rockers sure do.

Plus they are delicious.

In UNCLE PECKERHEAD (currently streaming on Prime, Hulu, Sling TV and The Roku Channel), a fledging punk band starting out on their first tour discovers their new hot Southern daddy roadie is also a man-eating...thing.

They also discover...that's not a dealbreaker.

On the surface, "Uncle Peckerhead" is a delightfully fun, gory, campy, feel-good rock 'n roll road trip movie with a ton of genuine heart that's shockingly queer positive!

But lurking deep underneath all that sweet Southern charm is an insidiously wicked "deal with the devil" Faustian pact story.

And Judy and her band are about to learn that when you bargain with the devil, he ALWAYS gets his due...

My very special guests this episode are the editor of Bear World Magazine and Stan the Mechanics' alter ego, JOHN HERNANDEZ, and co-creator and star of "Good Cops" and "I Had a Bloody Good Time at House Harker", DEREK HAUGEN.

UNCLE PECKERHEAD was written & directed by MATTHEW JOHN LAWRENCE and stars DAVID LITTLETON, CHET SIEGAL, JEFF RIDDLE and RUBY McCOLLISTER

Links referenced in this episode:

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• bearworldmag.com
• stanthemecanic.com
• patreon.com/screamqueenz
• bit.ly/joinSQclub

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Movie trailer: 00:00:01

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Patrick Walsh: 00:00:12

Hello, my name's Patrick, and I'm a scream queen. I'm a scream queen. And so are you. Hello again, my beautiful screamers, and welcome to another episode of Scream Queens.

ts gay. Tonight, it's episode: 1504

And I'm inviting you to join me on an adorable punk rock road trip comedy adventure that's also an insidious pact with the devil. That's right. We're talking about the delightfully wicked Uncle Peckerhead.

And in order to do that properly, I need two very special guests right here with me in the booth. One is the editor of Bear World magazine and also horror host Stan the Mechanics alter ego John Hernandez. Plus the creator and star of Good Cops.

And I had a bloody good time at House Harker, Derek Hagen. But before we do any of that, please allow me to introduce myself.

Patrick Walsh, and ever since: 2010

Welcome back, everyone, for another episode, and if you're new, a very extra special welcome to you. I hope you all had a fabulous Thanksgiving, those of you who are stateside, and I hope you're ready for a fantastic episode.

And I'm particularly excited about this one because it was recorded last May. I've been sitting on this for seven months now. And for those of you who have been around for a while, you know that last year, right?

Last season, rather, I had that whole thing with COVID and then the brain fog that came in, it really interfered with the show. And this was the episode that broke me. When I walked away from it. I said, I can't do this anymore. I couldn't fix the mistakes that were there.

And it was a problem. And I never thought I would be able to do another show again. But we're here. This is the last episode of all those files that I've been sitting on.

This is the last one. This is the last hurdle to jump over. And we did it. And it's a great episode. I can't wait to share it to you.

Since it is impossible to discuss this movie without spoiling it. And this is a wonderful, wonderful, fun little movie. I highly recommend you watch it before advancing any further.

You can find Uncle Peckerhead streaming for free on prime and on Tubi on Sling. TV and on Roku. I've waited seven months to share this episode with you. I can wait another 90 minutes. Will you go watch the movie? Come back.

It'll be even more fabulous than it was going to be before. I'm babbling. So it means it's time for me to bring on John, bring on Derek, and start the show. Right after I play this trailer for Uncle Peckerhead.

Movie trailer: 00:02:57

Band meeting. Six shows, seven days.

John Hernandez: 00:03:02

What do you guys need a band for?

Movie trailer: 00:03:04

So that our band can go on tour.

John Hernandez: 00:03:06

I can drive y'all. Every touring band needs a roadie, don't they?

Movie trailer: 00:03:10

Sorry, I didn't get your name.

John Hernandez: 00:03:12

My name's Peckerhead.

Movie trailer: 00:03:15

That is not your name.

Derek Hagen: 00:03:17

It's tour time.

Movie trailer: 00:03:25

We gotta move. Let's go. What could be taking him so long? Hello?

John Hernandez: 00:03:37

Every night at midnight, I turn into something.

Movie trailer: 00:03:44

Who's to say it wouldn't be one of us?

Patrick Walsh: 00:03:47

Next time?

John Hernandez: 00:03:48

I am in complete control.

Movie trailer: 00:03:53

Yo, put your head down so he can get the top of your dog.

Patrick Walsh: 00:04:17

Cool.

So, my beautiful, beautiful Screamers, I don't know if you're aware of this, but this is the first original episode of Scream Queens that I've recorded since January. And right now, it's May. That is a really, really long time. And so it's nervous getting back in the saddle.

So I just wanted to take things a little easier than normal, a little bit more slowly. So I picked a movie that was light and fun and not as complicated or as heavy as some of the stuff we've been talking about earlier in the year.

And since this is my first time in a long time, I wanted to have two guests who'd be gentle. Me, if you know what I mean. Unfortunately, they said no. So I'm stuck with these two hulking brutes. One is the editor in chief of Bear World magazine.

The other is an indie filmmaker and web series star. One is a good cop vampire slayer. The other is a satanic mechanic. One is the reigning queef queen.

And the other has the tastiest marshmallow dick I've ever had in my mouth. And I'll let them figure out who's who.

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and Girls and my GNCs, wherever you may be, please welcome back to the Scream Queen Studio, John Hernandez and Derek Hogan.

Derek Hagen: 00:05:39

Hey, that's a. What a great introduction. Thank you, Patrick.

Guest: 00:05:44

Yeah, yeah. Hey, it's Derek. Your favorite bottom here.

Patrick Walsh: 00:05:48

I wasn't gonna bring it up. I'm glad Derek was the first one to bring it up.

Guest: 00:05:51

Well, we knew it was coming up. I Want to put that intro on like a recording when I enter the door? I might have to edit it out for my children, but yeah. That was amazing.

Thank you, Patrick.

Patrick Walsh: 00:06:03

They have to learn sometime. They have to learn about you someday, Derek. My dad's a bottom. Anyway.

Guest: 00:06:08

Oh, Lord.

Patrick Walsh: 00:06:10

Anyway, just to refresh people, John Hernandez, please introduce. Introduce yourself. Tell people who you are. Who's the satanic mechanic and what's beow magazine?

Derek Hagen: 00:06:18

All right, well, I'm the editor in chief of BearWorld magazine, bearworldmag.com and it's the only digital worldwide lifestyle magazine for gay bears. That's big, hirsute hairy dudes, like, and we cover, like all the pop culture going on within the culture.

You know, movers and shakers and all different sorts of bears and artists around the world and events and everything going on. Featuring lots of, like, sexy pics and lots of health articles, you know, men's health, all that kind of good stuff.

And Stan the mechanic is my hobby. That's my horror host character. I was just nominated for a Rondo award, which I sadly lost to the good Svengulies.

But if I'm going to lose, lose to anybody, I'd rather be Svengoolie. Been going strong since the pandemic with that. And I'm getting ready to shoot new content and do new photo shoots with Stan the mechanic.

And you could check him out@stanthemecanic.com Fabulous.

Patrick Walsh: 00:07:17

I love all of that. Yeah. If you're going to lose one of those things, lose it the best.

Derek Hagen: 00:07:20

Yeah. Really?

Guest: 00:07:22

That's amazing.

Derek Hagen: 00:07:23

Glad I didn't lose to someone like Uncle Spooky.

Guest: 00:07:26

She's the.

Patrick Walsh: 00:07:27

She's the worst. I heard he's not even blue. I heard he's vermillion. Anyway, Derrick Hogan. Derek Hagen. What am I talking about?

You're an indie filmmaker and a vampire slayer. What's that all about?

Guest: 00:07:39

Well, I did make a movie called I had a bloody good time at House Harker with some of my best pals. But lately I've been cutting hair in the central coast.

I'm a barber now, but I'm always trying to figure out how to finagle a way to make another movie. So one of these days.

Patrick Walsh: 00:08:00

Fabulous. Fabulous. John.

Derek Hagen: 00:08:02

Yeah?

Patrick Walsh: 00:08:02

Are you biting your tongue that he's a hairdresser now?

Derek Hagen: 00:08:06

You know, I didn't want to bring it up. I mean, we've already broached it, but that is big time bottom behavior. It's fine. It's.

Patrick Walsh: 00:08:13

It is big time bottom behavior.

Derek Hagen: 00:08:16

It's fine. I mean, a hairdresser, you know, I mean, the, the clues just come out episode by episode. I feel like our next episode together will be coming out.

Patrick Walsh: 00:08:24

This is the coming out. By the end of this episode, we him turn. Oh my God, let him turn. Ding dong Patrick from the future here.

For those of you who did not listen to the first time that John and Derek guessed it on Scream Queens, when we talked about the movie Zombie Strippers, you might be thinking, wow, they're doing an awful lot of bottom shaming here today. In the middle of that episode, Derek just announced, my wife always says that if I was gay, I'd totally be a bottom. Which just floored John and I.

And then the more Derek tried to use examples of how it wasn't, the more he was proving his wife right. So while we are playfully making fun of Derek, we're also validating the opinions of his wife, who clearly knows him better than the.

Than either of us do. So what does she know that we don't? Well, apparently nothing. Cause everything out of his mouth sounds like a bottom.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Back to the show. What was he gonna say? Well, actually, the thing is, that's significant about this episode.

Not only is this my first new episodes January, this is the first time this entire season I've had a heterosexual man on the show.

Guest: 00:09:30

Whoa.

Patrick Walsh: 00:09:32

Yep, no pressure. Derek, you're representing your people.

Guest: 00:09:35

I always have, and I hope, hope I'm doing a good job.

Patrick Walsh: 00:09:39

Bottom.

Guest: 00:09:42

What do you say to that, though? Representing a. The heterosexual community? I mean, I don't even know how to. How to respond to that.

Patrick Walsh: 00:09:49

I heard that. Sucking. I'm sorry, we're not going to pick out Derek the whole show. That's not nice, and it's not funny anyway.

Guest: 00:09:58

Oh, my God.

Patrick Walsh: 00:09:59

But we're here because we're here to talk about a movie. We're here today to talk about the movie Uncle Peckerhead. Uncle Becker Head, a rock and roll horror comedy.

Since I said I wasn't gonna pick on you, Derek, I've got a pick on you. Derek Haugen, I need you to give me a nice tight 30 second plot summary of the movie Uncle Peckerhead. No pressure, but the clock starts now, baby.

Guest: 00:10:19

Uncle Puckerhead is about a guy that has nothing to do with anyone relatively close to them, but he somehow drives them around place to place. And these people are in a band, and in that band they play punk. And this other guy who's driving in Peckerhead is a demon.

And he can Only turn demon at midnight and he has, like, 13 minutes to eat anybody that he wants.

Patrick Walsh: 00:10:44

And is he good?

Guest: 00:10:45

Is he bad? Let's find out.

Patrick Walsh: 00:10:46

Go.

Guest: 00:10:48

They do it.

Patrick Walsh: 00:10:50

Well done, sir. Well done. Bravo, bravo. John Hernandez, anything you want to add to that.

Derek Hagen: 00:10:57

Homoerotic subtext?

Guest: 00:10:59

Oh, yes.

Derek Hagen: 00:11:00

Period. We'll get to it.

Patrick Walsh: 00:11:02

Definitely not. It's there. No, it's not even subtext.

Derek Hagen: 00:11:07

It's not subtext. It's actual text.

Guest: 00:11:09

We got a boner joke people to talk about. We got a boner joke.

Patrick Walsh: 00:11:12

Boners are never a joke, Darren. Never, Never.

Derek Hagen: 00:11:15

That's right. Every boner is a blessing.

Guest: 00:11:16

Every boner is a blessing. That's a T shirt.

Patrick Walsh: 00:11:21

That's a T shirt right there. I was gonna say this is. This is a horror. It's a punk rock horror comedy that's oddly sweet and oddly charming.

It's got this, like, Gomer Paul Southern charm sweetness over the whole thing. But when you stop and look at it, it's really fucking dark. There's, like, dark Faustian shit going on underneath, and it's a lot of fun.

Guest: 00:11:44

Yeah, Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 00:11:47

I liked it.

Guest: 00:11:48

I agree.

Patrick Walsh: 00:11:49

John.

Derek Hagen: 00:11:50

Yes.

Patrick Walsh: 00:11:51

Tell me about Judy. Tell me about the leader of duh.

Derek Hagen: 00:11:54

Okay. All right, so I'm just gonna get right into it with Judy. Okay. Judy made me a bit uncomfortable because she gives me very big time Lena Dunham vibes.

Am I wrong? Am I alone on this? No, like, now that you said it, yeah, she. Her. Her delivery is very Lena Dunham.

And she also have flashes of Tig Notero, which, you know, take it or leave it, but I digress. So getting beside that, which, you know, with me, it was like, moly, Moly, Moly. Like, that's all I could focus on because she was so Lena Dunnit.

Lena Dunham to me. But so Judy is the lead singer of the band duh, and she's very ambitious.

And we meet her as she's quitting her job at, like, a bakery and she's getting ready to go on tour with band.

And she goes across the street to Amir, who, like, runs the House of Independent or whatever, the local, you know, rock club in there somewhere in New Jersey. They never really specify.

We don't know what year it is, but I'm assuming we're somewhere in the 80s or 90s because everything is cassette tapes and they're about.

Patrick Walsh: 00:12:58

And no cell phones.

Derek Hagen: 00:12:59

Yeah, and no cell phones. Right.

And so they're getting ready to embark on tour with this demo that Amir had them create so that he would give them a shot to Perform at this local variety show in New Jersey.

Movie trailer: 00:13:14

I see Shark Dick just dropped off the Queef Queen show.

Derek Hagen: 00:13:17

Very perceptive. What gave that away?

Movie trailer: 00:13:19

Have you found a replacement opener yet? Will there be a replacement?

Derek Hagen: 00:13:24

I don't know.

Patrick Walsh: 00:13:25

I don't know.

Movie trailer: 00:13:25

Well, you know, we could open.

Patrick Walsh: 00:13:27

I.

Derek Hagen: 00:13:28

Listen, I just. It's not a good idea.

Movie trailer: 00:13:30

I don't think that's pleased. You said we needed something recorded, so we made a demo. You said we needed some experience. So we are about to embark on our first tour.

Can you please just. Please listen to the tape before you make a decision?

Derek Hagen: 00:13:45

Fine, fine.

Patrick Walsh: 00:13:46

Just leave, okay?

Derek Hagen: 00:13:47

Just go.

Movie trailer: 00:13:48

All right. I'll call you later today to see what you think.

Patrick Walsh: 00:13:51

If you call me before Friday morning.

Derek Hagen: 00:13:52

I'm going to burn the demo.

Movie trailer: 00:13:54

All right, Friday morning it is.

Derek Hagen: 00:13:56

Goodbye. Okay, so when we meet her, she's giving her demo tape to Amir. He's going to listen to it, let her know if he's interested in having them play.

And yeah, that's who she is. She's like our leader. She's kind of the voice of reason. She drives a lot of the action.

So without getting plot point by plot point, that's who Judy is.

Patrick Walsh: 00:14:20

100%. Yeah, I would like to add that. Yeah, that's 100%, but I am, because duh is a three person band and she's the closest thing to an adult.

Yeah, she's the one with the business and she's the one who's actually trying to get things done because the other two have their own issues. Derek, tell me about Max and Mel.

Guest: 00:14:37

Max and Mel. Well, Mel is one of my favorite characters especially. I saw it twice before reviewing it with you guys. And the second time, Mel really was.

Everything she said was just hilarious to me. She just had that really dry sense of humor and wasn't even really mean. Meant to be dry, but her delivery was so great. I mean, she hates everything.

Anything that's good's happening, she's gonna shit on it or be like, hey guys, this is probably gonna turn to shit. Because nothing good happens in this world. And that's just. She's just a big cloud, a rain cloud over everything. And I love every moment of her.

Movie trailer: 00:15:16

Life has a way of dangling these small carrots of opportunity in front of our faces, ready to completely destroy and dismantle any hope in sight. The world is chaos. And though together we are alone to suffer.

Guest: 00:15:37

And Max character, he's the lead singer who is terrified of speaking to the audience during like little breaks and stuff.

Derek Hagen: 00:15:49

Hi, I'm Max. Yeah, that's right. Max is my name.

Guest: 00:15:59

Tar is my game.

Patrick Walsh: 00:16:01

Look pretty tired. Abort.

Movie trailer: 00:16:05

Abort.

John Hernandez: 00:16:07

1, 2, 3, 4.

Movie trailer: 00:16:08

1, 2.

Guest: 00:16:09

We almost had like two movies here. We had like a comedy horror. We also had this movie about this band just touring and trying to get to the next level in their careers.

And I thought that was really interesting.

Patrick Walsh: 00:16:22

Ding dong Patrick from the future here.

I just wanted to interrupt because I wanted to start laying the groundwork of what's going on underneath the bright and bubbly surface of this little horror comedy. Because it's some really dark, ancient, Faustian deal with the devil sort of stuff.

So one of the things that we're dealing with is the sense of corruption that happens within this band is that how, when Uncle Peckerhead finally shows up, that he's able to corrupt everybody. So it's important that all of these characters are representing something in its pure form. And that's what we're getting with Max and Mel here.

Max and Mel are pure embodiments of optimism and negativity. Max is always gung ho for everything. He's always seeing the bright side of everything. He's Mr. Glass half full.

He's this bumbling oaf who's frequently not doing the right thing, but he's doing it with the best intentions. And nobody ever gets mad at him because they all know. They all know that he has not a mean bone in his body.

He always has the purest intentions in his heart.

Derek Hagen: 00:17:15

Started to clean, but then I needed to get high because I hate cleaning. But then I got tired because weed makes me sleepy. I needed to sleep, so I slept.

Patrick Walsh: 00:17:27

I'm sorry. Whereas Mel, she's nihilism personified. She doesn't see the good side of anything. She's missed last half empty. She is Nietzsche. She is fatalism.

It's just who she is at her core. So the two of them working together are like yin and yang.

They're like the comedy mask and the tragedy mask, with Judy in the middle acting as the buffer. And that's how they're able to function.

Like, we have these two opposing forces, but we have somebody in the middle who knows how to deal with both of them. And that's why this band is going to succeed.

Movie trailer: 00:17:55

Jobs quit, bags packed, merch boxed, guitars strung, drum heads replaced. Tour route mapped. Six shows, seven days, with the possibility of a seventh show back here with Mel. Drumroll, please. The Queef queens.

Patrick Walsh: 00:18:20

And that's why this band is going to succeed, except as this corrupting force that's about to enter their lives and make things very, very difficult. Ding, dong, back to the show. People who are complaining that there's not a horror. And I didn't mind that because it's spaced out.

Like, the gore scenes are very spaced out. But I found all this up with the man interesting and fun because the three of them, and Peck when he.

Uncle Peck when he gets involved, this cast, a great chemistry. They feel like they've known each other forever. Like, I buy them as friends.

Guest: 00:18:46

100.

Derek Hagen: 00:18:47

Yeah, totally. I. And I also feel like Mel gives me very Natasha Leone vibes as well.

Patrick Walsh: 00:18:53

Like, that's what somebody said when I screened together. Somebody said, I want to see Natasha Leone playing this role. And I said, Natasha Leone should be playing all the roles and everything.

But that's not the point right now. I also love that it's a girl drummer. I love that. I love that. Yeah, made me happy.

Guest: 00:19:06

Yeah, she was great.

Patrick Walsh: 00:19:07

But yeah, this. This movie was a lot for me in the best way. Because, like, back in. Back in the 80s, this was me. The punk scene was my scene. I was sneaking into.

Sneaking out of Long island on the Long Island Railroad to sit outside of CBGB's because it's too young to get in, just to listen to who's ever playing. So this is very much me. And it brought back a lot of actor PSD from, like, touring and shitty, shitty vans. Like, just different art form.

Like the same shitty tours, the same shitty venues, the same shitty people you meet on the road. All of them are here in this movie, but in different forms. So I got a real kick out of that. And I also love that they're.

They're playing their own music. Like, what you're hearing is that. And they said, I think they sound great.

Derek Hagen: 00:19:46

Yeah, they really did. Like, I had to check because this was the first time I'd ever seen the movie.

Like, you know Max, the actor that plays Max there, I saw that he, like, pretty much wrote all the music, but he sounded very much like, think Green Day. I'm not a rock guy, so you gotta forgive me, guys, if I get any of the terminology or the bands wrong. But.

Guest: 00:20:07

No, I agree with that.

Derek Hagen: 00:20:08

But, yeah, they were. The music was pretty solid. I was shocked. Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 00:20:13

Yeah. If it wasn't, it would have been a hard movie to get through because there are long scenes of them playing. But, yeah, I thought they did a great job.

Guest: 00:20:19

I think they could have played it both ways. I think if they sucked horribly, like just over the top so bad you can barely listen, I think that could have worked.

But I did appreciate that they were really, really good.

Patrick Walsh: 00:20:32

That wouldn't work as well when Peck came in. Otherwise I'd have to continue to suck but still get popular or get better.

Guest: 00:20:39

That's true.

Patrick Walsh: 00:20:39

Yeah. I've got ahead of myself. John, who's Peck?

Derek Hagen: 00:20:44

Oh, my God. Peck is this, like, really, like, hot daddy. And so Peck is basically a drifter.

And he is the first character we see, like, eating a corpse on the side of the road.

Patrick Walsh: 00:20:59

And as one does in New Jersey.

Derek Hagen: 00:21:01

Of course, I mean, you know, normal.

Patrick Walsh: 00:21:04

Well, his rest stops are very expensive.

Derek Hagen: 00:21:06

Yes, indeed. And so Peck is basically living out of his van.

And we meet him as our lovely bandmates are looking for a van to tour around with because their van gets repossessed and Uncle Peck has a van. And at first, he's not really into the idea of going on the road with them.

But since, you know, the cops are looking for someone who's mutilating bodies in New Jersey, he decides that maybe it's best to get on the road. So he offers to take our happy bandmates on tour.

Patrick Walsh: 00:21:37

You.

John Hernandez: 00:21:37

The kids just tagged my windshield. Yes, that is my property. You are soliciting on private property.

Derek Hagen: 00:21:48

We're sorry, sir.

John Hernandez: 00:21:50

Now, what's the meaning of this?

Movie trailer: 00:21:54

Okay, we didn't know you were in there, so I'll just take this.

John Hernandez: 00:22:00

What do you guys need a van for?

Patrick Walsh: 00:22:02

Because of the man.

Movie trailer: 00:22:05

Yeah. And we need a pronto so that our band can go on tour.

John Hernandez: 00:22:10

You guys are in a band?

Movie trailer: 00:22:12

Yeah.

John Hernandez: 00:22:13

Oh, you guys rip.

Movie trailer: 00:22:16

Well, I believe we do, yeah. Right on. Well, does that mean that we can borrow your van?

John Hernandez: 00:22:25

Well, no. Full disclosure, that man back there also happens to be my home for the moment.

You see, in this cutthroat, capitalistic world in which we now live, your boy has fallen on hard times. The game is rigged, and I am but a casualty, a victim. But I am hopeful. I can drive y'all. I can roadie, too. I mean, every touring band needs a roadie.

Don't they just throw me a few bucks and pay for gas or whatnot? Well, we could leave right now. What do you say?

Derek Hagen: 00:23:15

And he's this really charming Southern guy. Just like G. Golly garsh. Like, big blue eyes, very handsome, very furry, beautiful chest. Not that this man matter.

Well, this does matter to you, to your listener base.

Patrick Walsh: 00:23:29

Yes, 100% matters.

Derek Hagen: 00:23:32

And, yeah, he's just, you know, totally hot dad bod, you know, furry good looking guy, very sweet. Would never kick him out of bed.

Movie trailer: 00:23:39

Sorry, I didn't get Your name?

John Hernandez: 00:23:41

My name's Peckerhead.

Movie trailer: 00:23:43

What?

John Hernandez: 00:23:44

Peck. Er Head.

Movie trailer: 00:23:48

That is not your name.

John Hernandez: 00:23:50

Well, that is what my daddy called me till the day he died.

Derek Hagen: 00:23:55

Peckhardt's giving us a ride in his van.

John Hernandez: 00:23:57

I mean, you can call me Peck. My friends call me Pic.

Movie trailer: 00:24:02

I'll stick with Peckerhead, thanks.

John Hernandez: 00:24:05

Lady's choice.

Derek Hagen: 00:24:06

But you know, he has a dangerous secret that we soon discover.

Patrick Walsh: 00:24:11

Derek, what's his dangerous secret? You hinted at it before, but please remind us, go into more detail.

Guest: 00:24:17

He turns into a demon at midnight, and according to his rules, it's for 13 minutes. He doesn't know know how it happened or why it has happened to him, but his whole life at midnight for 13 minutes. And he calls.

He likes to be called the Thing. And he eats people.

John Hernandez: 00:24:38

Every night at midnight, I turn into something. Now, I don't know what that thing is. I honestly can't remember how or when it started. But it only lasts for 13 minutes and then I'm fine.

Derek Hagen: 00:25:03

Fine.

Movie trailer: 00:25:04

You killed and ate a man.

Guest: 00:25:07

I do want to talk about that. Do we think that's bullshit?

Patrick Walsh: 00:25:11

Well, that's one of the things.

I was reading some of the interviews with the director, and he was saying he definitely did not want to specify what Peck is because they keep calling him a monster. Like the band, like Judy's. Like, you're a monster all the time. I'll be playing, cuz. Then he said, no, no, no, I prefer to call Thing.

Guest: 00:25:29

That's right.

Patrick Walsh: 00:25:31

So it lets us fill in blanks and make him stuff on our own of what he is.

Derek Hagen: 00:25:37

Interesting. Like, I feel like I don't know, Patrick.

Every time I'm on the show, I feel like I discuss strippers and I feel like I discuss La Zombie, starring my fake husband, Francois Sagat.

Patrick Walsh: 00:25:48

So, yeah, for those who remember, this is the guy with the weird black dick who fucks people back to life. Yeah. Please continue.

Derek Hagen: 00:25:53

Correct. Now, it has to be pointed out that Uncle Peckerhead's demon makeup is very Francois Sagat and La Zombie. So I don't know. I feel like.

I don't know if you're setting me up. I don't know if this is my arc on Scream Queens, but I'm here to just point that out.

So if anybody enjoyed the makeup for Uncle Peckerhead, you should check out Ellie Zombie. I'd go with the triple X version personally, but, you know, whatever.

Patrick Walsh: 00:26:18

You see, John, this whole time I've been worrying about that I failed you. Because I figured with a name like Uncle Peckerhead, that definitely Be some genital mutilation in this movie, because I know how much you love that.

Derek Hagen: 00:26:28

I. You know, I was. I was. I was hanging on, but, you know, it's okay. I got enough stuff in there.

Patrick Walsh: 00:26:35

It's fine. There's plenty of other things. We got a boner, though. So that's fine. So it's fine.

Derek Hagen: 00:26:38

Totally.

Patrick Walsh: 00:26:40

Yeah. So the guy who's playing Uncle Peck is David Littleton. The movie hangs on him.

Guest: 00:26:45

Yeah, him and Judy.

Patrick Walsh: 00:26:47

Yes, yes, absolutely. You need them as well. But the things you need to buy his bullshit. Like, we need to love Peck. We need to love Peck as much as they love Peculiar Back.

As much as the innocent people love back. We need to.

Derek Hagen: 00:26:57

We do.

Patrick Walsh: 00:26:58

Like you. I'm catching myself going. Oh, well, let him go. Let him go. It'll be fine. It'll work out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is all a bad idea.

But you just want to believe him. You got those big blue eyes and the big sad face whenever something. Whenever he gets caught eating people. I'm sorry. And they're okay. I forgive you.

John Hernandez: 00:27:13

I'm sorry. I murdered the hell out of that promoter, man, before I had a chance.

Derek Hagen: 00:27:18

To run it by y'all.

John Hernandez: 00:27:23

And I. I guess I should have been more forthcoming about my condition.

Derek Hagen: 00:27:29

Yeah. I mean, we're all suckers for a hot daddy begging for forgiveness. I mean, ain't I right, Derek? Come on.

Guest: 00:27:36

You're right.

Patrick Walsh: 00:27:37

And correcto. Silence means consent anyway. But just toss something out there. Something I learned from Uncle Spooky. Uncle Spooky Spoon. Uncle Spooky Spoon to.

This is what I said. Uncle Spooky screen this at one of his Fire island shows, and Derek Littleton shows up.

Derek Hagen: 00:27:56

Oh, my God. That's amazing. I didn't know that.

Patrick Walsh: 00:28:00

Which would explain why he's so tan. And, you know, his. His jeans keep. Are almost always falling off, and that tan seems to be all over, so there. I'm just. I'm just filling in my blanks.

Like I said, I'm just filling it in. I'm sorry.

Guest: 00:28:10

Did you guys hear any of that? My child just came in here for a second, and then.

Patrick Walsh: 00:28:15

No, not at all.

Guest: 00:28:16

My mother in law just grabbed.

Patrick Walsh: 00:28:17

We were talking about hot daddies.

Derek Hagen: 00:28:19

Yeah.

Guest: 00:28:22

Good, good. You guys were preoccupied. So when you're listening to this later, you might hear my child be like.

Patrick Walsh: 00:28:29

Dad, it's your child. Never mind. No, no, no, no. Patrick, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Patrick, no. I do set you up.

Guest: 00:28:40

I kind of lob these things to you. And all of a sudden, I am a bottom.

Patrick Walsh: 00:28:44

And you're like, o live there saying these things about me again.

Guest: 00:28:48

I guess I'm. I'm the. The pecker head in this situation. No, no, not me.

Patrick Walsh: 00:28:53

You know what you are? You are the bottom.

John Hernandez: 00:28:56

No, no.

Guest: 00:28:57

Come on, guys. I don't know what you're talking about.

Patrick Walsh: 00:29:00

Let me. Is it hot in here?

Derek Hagen: 00:29:01

Let me just take my shirt off. Oh, man. Put the cameras back on.

Patrick Walsh: 00:29:10

John. You can pick any, like, pretty much any episode of Good Cops and one of them has taken their clothes off.

Guest: 00:29:17

Yeah, we're practically naked.

Derek Hagen: 00:29:18

I know what I'm viewing tonight.

Patrick Walsh: 00:29:20

Yeah, the Halloween episode. This one definitely takes a shirt off. So there you go.

Guest: 00:29:25

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 00:29:25

Not that I've. Not that I've bookmarked it. Anyway.

We're talking about a movie, but like I said, my first time through, at the end of it, I had a big smile on my face. Even though the end gets dark, I'm like, you know what? That was a lot of fun. When I rewatched, I said, this is a devil's bargain from the beginning.

This is a setup from the beginning. He's lying to them. He's like, in my mind, he's a demon. And we're getting a devil's bargain.

We're getting a Faustian pact with his band, but it's so coated in, like, honey, Like, Southern honey and this gomer pile voice that you don't even notice it's happening. Which is exactly how it should be.

Derek Hagen: 00:30:02

Yeah, yeah. No, he did a great job. I mean. I mean, like you said, I was totally on board with Uncle Pac. Like, you know, I was like, yeah, keep him around. Come on.

Patrick Walsh: 00:30:13

Yeah.

Guest: 00:30:14

And I think that end scene was probably the most horrific scene of the movie. That was actually terrifying. Like, you know, just hearing the sound effects and her look and. Yeah, it was. That was actually really scary.

Patrick Walsh: 00:30:27

But no, you're absolutely 100% was just not seeing anything. Was an excellent choice. Clearly a budgetary thing. But here's one of those times when stuff like that works.

But yeah, like I was saying, he never forces anything on them. He always makes them make the choice.

Derek Hagen: 00:30:43

Come on, Judy. I think we should give him another chance.

Movie trailer: 00:30:46

No, he's literally a man eating monster. A monster that killed an promoter. That us and a ton of other bands, too.

Derek Hagen: 00:30:54

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 00:30:55

No, look, Judy, he said it wouldn't happen again.

Derek Hagen: 00:31:00

He called us his friend.

Movie trailer: 00:31:01

No.

Patrick Walsh: 00:31:03

All right.

Movie trailer: 00:31:07

All in favor to let Peck stay on with us for the time being? Raise.

Patrick Walsh: 00:31:12

He uses abuser language.

John Hernandez: 00:31:14

I understand how Scary that must have looked. But I got this. Please, it won't happen again.

Patrick Walsh: 00:31:29

The first time he kills somebody, which I loved, and he gets caught, you should say, oh, Shaw. Well, you know, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to kill that man without consulting y'all first.

John Hernandez: 00:31:38

I'm sorry I murdered the hell out of that promoter, man, before I had a chance to run it by y'all. I guess I should have been more forthcoming about my condition.

Patrick Walsh: 00:31:49

Sorry. I'm just. Sorry. Oh, sh. I'm all packed. Old dupe Becky done it again. I'll come. Let me buy some dinner. Starving artists, right?

Guest: 00:31:58

Yeah. He knew. He knew what buttons to push.

Patrick Walsh: 00:32:01

And just even as the play, as the script goes on, things kept popping out of me. Like I'm. You know, my Shakespearean training.

This sounds really obnoxious, but Shakespearean training makes me really conscious when dialogue changes tone. And it reminded me of the shifts that you have between verse and prose in classic theater, like Shakespeare and the Greeks and things like that.

And the rule. Not that I'm saying that all of a sudden that pex is speaking in iamic pentameter or something like that, but there's. There's something there.

There's a musicality. Because as a rule in classic theater, verse is reserved for the gods. It's used for royalty. It's used for people in love.

It's used for times of heightened emotion. And it's fancy speak. It's in meter, it rhymes. It's poetry. Reverse is common speak. It's for the poor people. It's for lowly humans.

It's just people talking about their shitty day. There's no elegance to it. It's crude. And there are moments in this when all of a sudden, Peck is speaking. And it's.

There's a musicality, there's a lyricism. There's a heightened quality to the words that he's saying that feel like verse to me.

John Hernandez: 00:33:05

You see, in this cutthroat, capitalistic world in which we now live, your boy has fallen on hard times. The game is rigged, and I am but a casualty, a victim. Victim.

Patrick Walsh: 00:33:19

But I am hopeful for a couple of seconds. Peck doesn't sound like Peck sounds. For the rest of the movie, Peck sounds elevated in his speech.

And to me, it reminds me of, like, this is a seduction speech. This is his Shakespearean seduction speech. This is. This is Romeo at Juliet's balcony.

Listen, good friends, to my tale of most abject woe and pray, let it prey upon thy heartstrings and show Me, Mercy. And since that didn't work, he switches back to pros because he's dealing with lowly humans.

John Hernandez: 00:33:48

I can drive y'all.

Patrick Walsh: 00:33:50

And there are two specific spots where this really popped out at me. The first one is early on where he's convincing them that everything's going to be okay, that the syringes will keep him from changing.

And he says, I am in complete control. And there's a slight change in tone there that popped out to me. And that says to me, okay, what's different about this line?

Oh, it's because, you know, the casual listener might say, oh, yeah, he's just telling them, no, no, I'm in control of my. In fact, to me, he's saying, I'm in control of you. And I always have been and I always will be.

And the other one comes when they're thanking him for doing a great job selling all the demos, demo tapes.

John Hernandez: 00:34:29

And I don't need any veneration. I was just doing what any friend would do in a situation like that.

Patrick Walsh: 00:34:36

I don't need any veneration. I said, yes, you do. The choice of the word veneration is weird coming out of a character like Peck.

There's little down homes, you know, hillbilly country boys. It's an odd choice of a word. So it popped out of me. And that says to me that, yeah, maybe I don't need veneration.

I'm not going to ask for it, but you're going to give it to me. I've been doing this for a long time. I've been doing this since before timers recorded.

I've done this with an infinite number of people just like you, and they always, always, always wind up venerating me, and so will you. How does Pet control. There's a way that Pet can control his demonness. What does he do?

Guest: 00:35:19

Puts a shrink.

Patrick Walsh: 00:35:21

There's something that keeps him from changing.

Derek Hagen: 00:35:23

Yeah, he, he has, like, a pouch with, like, a sedative in it that he injects himself with. So we think every night close to midnight so that he doesn't turn.

Patrick Walsh: 00:35:33

Yes. Oh, because it's such a bad thing. It's so ashamed. Yes. Yeah.

Guest: 00:35:38

Which was also.

Patrick Walsh: 00:35:42

Yep. But part of the, but it's also part of the bargain. Like, that's the whole thing. I, I, Okay.

Because the whole thing, Judy does not trust him when she finds out what he is, and rightly so. She walks in on him eating somebody.

Derek Hagen: 00:35:55

Eating the, the, the promoter, the first promoter.

Patrick Walsh: 00:35:58

Promoter who made them play for three hours and Didn't. Yeah. Pet kills him. Judy walks in on. And she has the correct reaction.

John Hernandez: 00:36:26

What are y'all carrying on about?

Patrick Walsh: 00:36:29

Stay the back.

Movie trailer: 00:36:30

What is going on?

Patrick Walsh: 00:36:32

Oh, no.

John Hernandez: 00:36:33

It's all right. It's all right. You know, Judy just got spooked because she caught me roughing up that promoter man back there.

Movie trailer: 00:36:42

He killed him.

John Hernandez: 00:36:43

What?

Movie trailer: 00:36:44

He's a fucking monster.

John Hernandez: 00:36:46

Now, let's not resort to name Colin.

Patrick Walsh: 00:36:49

Wait.

Movie trailer: 00:36:51

Did you really kill the promoter?

Patrick Walsh: 00:36:53

Is that true?

Movie trailer: 00:36:53

Yes.

John Hernandez: 00:36:54

Of course not.

Derek Hagen: 00:36:56

Then why the fuck would she say that?

John Hernandez: 00:36:58

Hell, if I'm. All I wanted was just to give him one good pup before we hit the road.

Movie trailer: 00:37:04

There were pieces of him everywhere. He's dead.

John Hernandez: 00:37:07

Oh, I beg to differ.

Derek Hagen: 00:37:09

He.

John Hernandez: 00:37:09

He is very much alive.

Movie trailer: 00:37:12

I saw it. He was eating him.

John Hernandez: 00:37:14

And he's alive.

Derek Hagen: 00:37:15

Dead, alive, dead, alive.

Patrick Walsh: 00:37:20

Oh, but I've got this thing that could keep me from changing now.

John Hernandez: 00:37:25

Hold the phone. You think that I use this for shit eating dope?

Patrick Walsh: 00:37:30

Hardly.

John Hernandez: 00:37:32

How do you think I control this thing, huh? I use this to sedate myself every night to keep the beast at bay.

Movie trailer: 00:37:42

Sorry. Why wasn't the beast kept at bay tonight?

John Hernandez: 00:37:48

For one thing, I didn't think it was right for some joker to take advantage of my friends like that. And when I saw how worried Judy was about getting to the next show, what with lack of funds for gas and food, well, I mean, I had to do something.

So I stuck up for all of us.

Movie trailer: 00:38:09

By eating him?

John Hernandez: 00:38:11

I realized that some might think that that's an extreme response. But how else were we gonna get paid?

Movie trailer: 00:38:19

Well, we didn't get paid, so.

John Hernandez: 00:38:21

Yeah, au contraire.

Movie trailer: 00:38:33

Holy.

John Hernandez: 00:38:36

There's enough here for gas and food, maybe even a shower. I understand how scary that must have looked. But I got this.

Patrick Walsh: 00:38:50

But I'm gonna turn it over to you. I'm gonna put you in charge of it.

John Hernandez: 00:38:57

But it's almost midnight. It's time for my thanks.

Patrick Walsh: 00:39:02

And then I'm gonna spend the rest of my arc making you trust me so that you say, you know what? Someday one day you'll say, I'll pick. It's okay. I trust you.

John Hernandez: 00:39:10

Almost show time.

Derek Hagen: 00:39:12

It's a pretty show tomorrow.

John Hernandez: 00:39:14

Probably get to it.

Movie trailer: 00:39:15

Me too.

John Hernandez: 00:39:17

You.

Derek Hagen: 00:39:20

Actually. Pretty nervous to meet you guys today.

Guest: 00:39:23

Oh, really?

Movie trailer: 00:39:24

Huh.

Derek Hagen: 00:39:25

Yeah. I mean, after talking to you on the phone, I didn't think you'd be so cute.

Movie trailer: 00:39:28

Hi, Beck.

Patrick Walsh: 00:39:30

So everything's your fault. Everything's your fault. Every. Every little interaction, they get a little bit more complicit, a little bit more complicit.

And Also, again, my Shakespeare trading mode. He's playing on all the classic Shakespearean flaws.

Derek Hagen: 00:39:40

I don't one of them has their own Shakespearean flaw. I'm rambling.

Patrick Walsh: 00:39:44

We already talked to Judy. Her ambition is what's going to kill her.

Derek Hagen: 00:39:48

Right. I just.

Patrick Walsh: 00:39:50

Max. Max is like this open book of optimism and trusting.

Derek Hagen: 00:39:56

We can fix this. We can.

Patrick Walsh: 00:39:59

I think probably.

Movie trailer: 00:40:01

No, no, no beer.

Patrick Walsh: 00:40:03

And you mentioned that Mel is all.

Movie trailer: 00:40:05

Nihilism us last night. The world is cruel, cute and unforgiving.

Patrick Walsh: 00:40:13

And he plays on all three of those things to turn them against him. Yeah. In the end, gives them all exactly what they want.

Derek Hagen: 00:40:20

I didn't even really catch on to that.

Patrick Walsh: 00:40:22

Yeah, it's a pretty clever script.

Guest: 00:40:24

Really. Yeah. There's a lot of layers to this script that you probably wouldn't think of if you just watched it the first time.

And I can even see maybe not even liking the movie the first time around. I mean, this. This definitely would be a great movie to watch with friends. A midnight showing, you know, in a theater or something like that.

Or just a movie night with your pals or a Halloween night or something like that. I mean, this is definitely something that you should see with.

With other people and then maybe watch it again on your own and to kind of catch those other layers to the movie that are very subtle, but they're there.

Patrick Walsh: 00:40:59

And again, like he said, I keep. Notice I keep saying demon. Although that's not what's in the script. That's not specifically not what the director wanted. Like I.

I'm just inferring all this on my own. I'm just writing it, but so someone else might have a completely different interpretation of all this, but I think it's cool. I love that too.

That, that. That's why we talk about things like that. One of the other things about what the other thing that this movie is. It's a road trip movie.

Guest: 00:41:23

Yes.

Patrick Walsh: 00:41:24

And I. I loved every encounter that they had in the. All the people that they met on the road are the people that you meet on the road. It's some various.

Kind of. In my own little synopsis of the movie, my little personal thing, like each person that they meet, like each stop is like a different layer of hell.

Like the third layer of hell is reserved for people who take advantage of you and don't pay you.

Movie trailer: 00:41:47

What's this?

Guest: 00:41:48

Your cut.

Movie trailer: 00:41:50

It's $3.

Derek Hagen: 00:41:52

Yeah.

Guest: 00:41:53

A dollar a head.

Movie trailer: 00:41:55

What the fuck am I gonna do with $3?

Patrick Walsh: 00:41:58

I don't know.

Guest: 00:41:59

Invest in a better band.

Patrick Walsh: 00:42:00

The fifth layer is of hell. Is for hot guys who give you lousy sex. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I'm coming.

Movie trailer: 00:42:21

What? No.

Patrick Walsh: 00:42:23

Ah. It came so hard.

Derek Hagen: 00:42:26

I came so hard. What?

Movie trailer: 00:42:28

God damn it.

Guest: 00:42:30

Blowjob eyes.

Derek Hagen: 00:42:31

The gay layers of hell.

Patrick Walsh: 00:42:32

The seventh layer of hell is for assholes who wear. Who have. Who are 40 years old and mohawk and write songs about Laos and think they're cool. And what do you play?

Movie trailer: 00:42:43

Co. Vocalist and bass.

Derek Hagen: 00:42:45

That's cute. I'm the sole vocalist, lyricist too. In addition, I also write most of.

Patrick Walsh: 00:42:52

The music for the band.

Movie trailer: 00:42:53

Cool. That must be.

Patrick Walsh: 00:42:55

I guess you could call our music.

Derek Hagen: 00:42:57

A meditation on love and loss, but.

Patrick Walsh: 00:43:02

Ultimately I think it's just about the human experience. Don't get me wrong, it's not all raw emotion. We can get super political too.

Derek Hagen: 00:43:13

Our last track was about Laos.

Movie trailer: 00:43:17

What about it?

Patrick Walsh: 00:43:20

You're kidding, right? Fuck off.

Guest: 00:43:23

Oh, good. Shiloh. Shiloh was awesome. He was one of my favorite characters in the movie.

Patrick Walsh: 00:43:28

Oh, my God. I've seen. I've seen a couple of years be like this band.

First of all, they were this one review from a major horror magazine was saying, this whole movie's bullshit because this band's totally not metal. Well, yeah, they're not. They say repeatedly. And they didn't get the fact that Shiloh was supposed to be a joke. Like this.

This old guy with a receding hairline, no shoes.

Derek Hagen: 00:43:54

How could you not get the joke?

Patrick Walsh: 00:43:56

Who cast this? Whoever cast this guy should be slapped in the face. I'm like, this is brilliant. This is brilliant. I'm fake punk. Fake punk. I mean.

Guest: 00:44:02

Yeah, exactly. I was thinking the same thing.

I know very little bit about a punk, you know, But I'm sure a lot of the punk, actual punk, especially in the 80s, the little I know about them, they were pretty dangerous. They weren't very good people, for one thing. And another thing, you know, they're not doing pot.

They're starting with heroin and, you know, maybe working their way down to cocaine. But there was no hardcore drugs in this movie. But I didn't think that was a bad thing. I like the lightness of it, you know, it's a comedy horror.

Patrick Walsh: 00:44:40

And I didn't mind that either, just because I often find sometimes when you meet people and you're expecting this, you get something completely different, like, oh, that's for the stage. Yeah, that's. That's who I am when I'm on stage. This is when I write music. But when I'm not doing this, I'm also a nice Person who, like.

I don't know, like, it's like you find out we watch the Osbornes. You find out that Ozzy Osbourne's this big puppy dog.

Derek Hagen: 00:45:04

Yeah, yeah, totally.

Guest: 00:45:05

Exactly.

Patrick Walsh: 00:45:06

It doesn't make him any less metal, but just that who he is on stage and who he's not. I don't mind that. I don't mind that. These kids are all kind of cute. I also love that guy. The guy. That one guy.

The guy with the blowjob eyes, as they kept calling him.

Movie trailer: 00:45:17

I'm sorry, is it just me, or is he not one of the most beautiful men we have ever laid eyes on?

Guest: 00:45:24

I know, right?

Movie trailer: 00:45:26

He's okay.

Derek Hagen: 00:45:28

He's like a baby deer or something.

Movie trailer: 00:45:29

Yeah, like a baby deer with perfect teeth.

Patrick Walsh: 00:45:33

Ooh.

Derek Hagen: 00:45:34

Damn.

Movie trailer: 00:45:37

You better fuck that guy. Jesus, Mel.

John Hernandez: 00:45:42

Are you guys talking about blowjob eyes?

Derek Hagen: 00:45:45

Yep.

John Hernandez: 00:45:47

What a babe.

Guest: 00:45:50

Oh, blowjob eyes.

Derek Hagen: 00:45:51

Oh, yeah. I mean, he's my favorite Nick. Nick was my favorite visit on the road trip, to be honest with you.

Patrick Walsh: 00:45:58

So New Jersey. New Jersey. Jesus.

Guest: 00:45:59

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 00:46:00

He's got this sweet, sweet little suburban house. He's the nicest guy. And he's really clean and polite and well spoken. He treats everybody really well. And he has a band called Piss Fan. I love that.

Movie trailer: 00:46:11

For a band named Pissface, this is a real quaint hq.

Derek Hagen: 00:46:16

Yes.

Guest: 00:46:17

Yeah. I was disappointed we didn't get to see his band play. Am I the only one?

Derek Hagen: 00:46:22

No. I was wondering what Piss Face was about myself. The band names were great.

I mean, the Queef Queens, Shark Dick, like Pissface Alliteration has such an awesome roster of bands.

Patrick Walsh: 00:46:33

Yeah.

Movie trailer: 00:46:34

In the past year alone, they've put out the brain bus, mister's LP, the acid cat EP, and two 7 inches from turd toilet.

Derek Hagen: 00:46:42

Awesome.

Patrick Walsh: 00:46:43

Like John, I had to spend like 20 minutes looking up these bad names because everything sounded like they could have been real. Everything in this felt real.

Derek Hagen: 00:46:52

It was great. And the COVID art done by Marshmallow Dicks.

Patrick Walsh: 00:46:58

This blew my mind. I can't believe I said the whole movie three times that it didn't catch this. Like Jen Jennings, the lead singer of Queef Queen, who's.

Who's a major player, like we all have. We have to meet Judy's idol. Yes. And she's gonna be playing and they might be able to open for them.

Movie trailer: 00:47:12

We open for the Queef Queens. Jen Jennings sees us. Jen Jennings loves us. I give Jen Jennings our demo. Jen Jennings offers us a record deal.

We no longer have to work shit jobs and we just get to tour and make music for the rest of our lives.

Patrick Walsh: 00:47:28

And we finally meet Jen. Jen is the end of the movie, and she exactly what I pictured. I'm like, she is so punk rock.

I had to look up to see if she was actually punk rock performer. That was just in the movie that they cast the movie. No, it turns out It's. It's Shannon O'Neill.

Derek Hagen: 00:47:44

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 00:47:44

She was my improv instructor at my third year at UCB. It didn't even recognize her. It was 15, 17 years ago. So she's not even in a funny role. She's one of the funniest people on the face of planet.

But she's. I was so happy to see her. But again, I believe that it was a real person. Like, all the music stuff felt very real. Real.

Derek Hagen: 00:48:01

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I mean, like, you know, I love when they get to Nick's house and, you know, they bring him out, and he really is. He's beautiful.

He's dreamy. But I love the whole interaction with the crew with this guy, because, you know, like you said, NJ Jesus, he's so, like, pretty and, like, you know.

And this is where we find out that our boy Max is actually a homosexual. And Max immediately is smitten with Nick.

Guest: 00:48:29

Nick, what's your favorite potato chip flavor? Sour cream and onion, bro.

Derek Hagen: 00:48:34

I like gummy worm. And so is Judy. And it just. It leads to a good night.

Patrick Walsh: 00:48:39

And so is Peck.

Derek Hagen: 00:48:40

Yeah. And so is Pac. Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 00:48:43

Because you can't resist New Jersey Jesus.

Guest: 00:48:45

I think Pac is into anything.

Patrick Walsh: 00:48:47

Also true.

Guest: 00:48:48

Honestly, I think he's like, whatever.

Patrick Walsh: 00:48:51

I also think he's stirring shit.

Guest: 00:48:53

I think that's the only thing that saved. That saved Blowjob Eyes is that he was so hot. I think he would have eaten them.

Derek Hagen: 00:49:02

Yeah. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. I love that. Because Blowjob Eyes, we haven't said, is, like, the nickname that Uncle Peck gives this guy. So it's like. Yeah.

And it's.

You know, because Max is, like, pining wistfully about, like, a summer counselor that he used to have, and he gets a raging heart on while he's talking about him. Because this counselor reminds him so much of Nick. You know, he reminds me of this camp counselor I used to have back in the day.

Same emerald green eyes, same impeccable jawline, same inviting smile. He used to just sit next to me at lunch, and he would just sit down and he would run.

Movie trailer: 00:49:41

Ew, Max, have some decency.

Patrick Walsh: 00:49:46

What?

John Hernandez: 00:49:46

Oh, looking good, Maxie boy.

Derek Hagen: 00:49:52

And then what I love, too, there Is that Uncle Peck is just like. What does he say? Looking good, Maxi boy. Like, with his big boner in the middle of the room. I just. I love this.

You know, Uncle Peck is just like a pansexual daddy. And we have this cute little cub, Max, that is totally smitten with Nick. And then we have Judy, who's out to, like, fuck the living hell out of Nick.

And she being at this house, so.

Patrick Walsh: 00:50:19

She sure did. And rightly so. Rightly so. We're gonna come back to that. But this.

This is also one of those that really struck me about, like, one of the things that came crashing back when you're on tour. Granted, they were. This band's only on tour for a week.

But, yeah, if you extrapolate that, like, say, like, other bands or, like, in my case, some acting troupe, you're in a van. Hold that thought. The van in this was the same van I toured my Shakespeare company with for a year, but ours was gray.

We called it the Elephant for a month, and then for the next 11 months, we called it the Chamber of Farts. Because that's just all. The smell of farts never left because we ran it. You're together with the same people 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

The city's changed. Change. The people stay the same. So every time you with people that are different, you're like, they're the hottest people ever.

I want you to be my world. So all this red, like, the.

This guy who is Blowjob Eyes could have been the ugliest person on the face of the planet, and they still would have talked about them like that. Because that's how it goes. Oh, new meat. Oh, another person. Someone who's not. Someone that know everything about.

Derek Hagen: 00:51:20

Interesting. Yeah.

Like, the analysis I read of it said, like, people that are familiar with touring or with the music scene would get a lot of the layered jokes that the rest of us aren't getting. So interesting to hear that.

Patrick Walsh: 00:51:33

Yeah. No, no, no. That. All very true. Like I said, there was so much PSD happening. PSD happening for me.

Guest: 00:51:40

Can we go back to Shiloh real quick? And his band.

I actually loved his character, and I loved how he played it to the point where if I heard about that script, I think and I found out that he got it, I think I would have kidnapped him, put him in my basement, and then I would have auditioned for that part, and I would have played it just like that. It was perfect.

Patrick Walsh: 00:52:00

You would have been so good in this role. Yes.

Guest: 00:52:06

Thanks, Patrick.

Patrick Walsh: 00:52:07

I wasn't gonna say, but.

Guest: 00:52:10

But he killed it. That guy killed it. There's nothing I would have done anything differently though. I mean, his choices were really funny.

Derek Hagen: 00:52:18

The gig, life not easy.

Patrick Walsh: 00:52:22

When you guys get there, you'll see.

Derek Hagen: 00:52:24

It'S not the romantic adventure you throw.

Patrick Walsh: 00:52:25

Thought it would be.

Derek Hagen: 00:52:28

That's good actually. When you get there and you see that it's not the romantic adventure you.

Patrick Walsh: 00:52:35

Thought it would be.

Derek Hagen: 00:52:37

I gotta get this poetry on paper.

Patrick Walsh: 00:52:40

Yeah, I mean, aggressive douche. And that's one of the other. The other people. The other people that you meet on tour. Sometimes you'll cross paths with another touring company.

You know, they're. They're loading out of a theater, you're loading it. There's always somebody.

There's always somebody who's going to make you feel like about whatever you're doing other. Oh, oh, really? You're turning with Shakespeare. Oh, that's cool. I did that like seven years ago. No, I'm touring with hello Dolly now.

I'm the star, I'm whatever. That kind of bullshit. That's exactly what this guy's doing. But my favorite lines where he's. She's like, oh, well, I'm the. I'm the co.

Lead singer and I'm. I played the bass. And he's like, oh, I'm the solo lead singer. That's cute what you do though. Fuck you. Fuck you.

I'm gonna put down everything that you do and try to steal your. And try to steal your lighter.

Guest: 00:53:21

Yeah, I thought it was a whole pack of cigarettes, wasn't it?

Patrick Walsh: 00:53:27

Well, whatever.

Guest: 00:53:28

I'm so sorry.

Patrick Walsh: 00:53:29

Can.

Guest: 00:53:30

Can we pause for like 60 seconds? I gotta grab my charger. I didn't realize I was low on battery.

Patrick Walsh: 00:53:36

Okay, sure thing. We're gonna talk about you. We're gonna make dirty jokes. We had a little interrupt us. We had a little technical difficulty.

But what was going on with the pool? What. What interesting things happening at the pool?

Guest: 00:53:55

Well, so many things are going on in the pool. First you got Max, who is doing these little cannonball jumps that were hilarious. And he was also flirting with Blowjob.

Patrick Walsh: 00:54:06

Ey. Hey, Nick, watch this. Good one, dude. Thanks.

Guest: 00:54:14

Blow Job Eyes is flirting with Judy. And we think, you know, he's. He's probably has done this playboy move a lot playing like, oh, am I rambling? Oh, blah, blah, blah.

And I was actually pretty nervous to.

Derek Hagen: 00:54:28

Meet you guys today.

Movie trailer: 00:54:29

Oh, really?

Derek Hagen: 00:54:31

Yeah. I mean, after talking to you on the phone, I didn't think you'd be so cute.

Not that I didn't think that you would be cute or attractiveness was the only quality that I thought about. I don't really know what I'm saying right now. I'm sorry. I'm rambling.

Movie trailer: 00:54:48

No, please ramble away.

Derek Hagen: 00:54:52

I just think that you are cool and pretty and your band kicks ass.

Guest: 00:55:01

And she is falling for it. And then all of a sudden, Uncle Peck just comes in and cock blocks her.

Movie trailer: 00:55:07

You're cute, too. Yeah, Yeah.

John Hernandez: 00:55:18

I didn't rip Joe, but it's almost midnight. It's time for my insulin.

Guest: 00:55:25

What happens next, John?

Derek Hagen: 00:55:27

Oh, yeah. So you get the big cock block. So, yeah, Peck is like, oh, you know, it's almost midnight. It's time for my insulin. Like, so Judy takes them.

Patrick Walsh: 00:55:40

Meemaw needs you to rub her buns.

Derek Hagen: 00:55:42

Judy takes him outside and puts him in the van and gives him his, quote, insulin to put him out for the night. And she's staring at him saying, you, you, you, through the driver's side window as.

Patrick Walsh: 00:55:55

Can you blame her, John? John, can you blame her? Yeah.

Derek Hagen: 00:55:59

That is like, cardinal sin number one in, like, gay world. Like, if you block, you're done. Like, so.

Patrick Walsh: 00:56:05

I don't know how maybe Derek can help us, because I don't know how the female anatomy works. I feel like her. Her vagina was, like, just got all revved up. It was ready to go, and now it's got idle.

Guest: 00:56:16

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Derek Hagen: 00:56:17

She was.

Guest: 00:56:19

They were about to kiss, and he comes right in and totally cockblocks her. And now is the moment gone? You know, is it gonna come back? And she goes back into the house and. And, whoa, look. Whoa, my golly. Look at the blowjob.

Eyes just with his shirt off, his hair flowing and. Oh, hi, Judy. What are you doing?

Patrick Walsh: 00:56:40

His press on tattoo.

Guest: 00:56:41

Yeah, his tattoo shows exactly. His biceps are out. And I just. That scene's really funny because. So we go to bed. Yeah, I want to go to bed. Oh, well, we can talk. Yeah, let's talk.

And I just. The jump cut was hilarious because they're just, just, yeah, we can talk. And I'll go, bing. And she's right on top of him, writing him.

And then we cut to him saying.

Patrick Walsh: 00:57:10

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guest: 00:57:11

And he seems pretty lame.

Patrick Walsh: 00:57:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guest: 00:57:15

And she is not having.

Patrick Walsh: 00:57:18

I, I, I don't blame her. Be perfectly honest. I, I will admit that sometimes when I'm in that situation and someone start talking and it's ridiculous that I'm out.

Like, I'm like, I am completely out of the moment.

Derek Hagen: 00:57:27

Like, what I mean, I feel that. But I don't know, maybe I'm a consumate performer, but like I would still try to salvage it because she was just. She was barely bucking.

Like she wasn't giving me anything either. So she, they both were kind of dead in that situation for me.

Patrick Walsh: 00:57:42

I like that. I like that. Show must go on spirit. It's very Andy Rudy, Judy gr.

Derek Hagen: 00:57:46

Yes. I'm a professional, honey. Make no mistake.

Patrick Walsh: 00:57:53

No, I was thinking, you know, because we, we've. I've labeled him the dead. Like the third label of the third label. As hell of hell is for hot guys who turn out to be shitty at sex.

This the shitty talk. And he, he comes in like five seconds, came so hard and then he just is out. Yeah, yeah. Oh, here we go.

Derek Hagen: 00:58:11

It was just so funny. He was like, oh my God. I came so hard and he passes out. It was the best.

Patrick Walsh: 00:58:17

He's dead. He's dead. I. I'm thinking if it was this bad, if like we have the 10 seconds that we saw was this bad, what was the previous five minutes like?

I'm thinking the four player was bad.

Derek Hagen: 00:58:26

Bad.

Patrick Walsh: 00:58:28

He said weird things like this is such a celebration of life or just weird like, just like. Either. It was gonna be really crunchy granola with like lemon candles. It was gonna be sloppy and bad.

Guest: 00:58:37

I. I think he's just. I don't think he needed to do it.

Patrick Walsh: 00:58:40

Small, weird, twisted pig dick. Sorry, Derek, I talked over you.

Guest: 00:58:43

No, I don't think he needed to do any foreplay. I think he was. He's just so good looking. Was just like. She was like, let's just go. And they, I mean, they jump cut right to her.

I think they just got naked and just went for it. And then she's in it and she's like, oh, this is not that fun.

Patrick Walsh: 00:58:57

You're already wet from the pool. That's not how this works.

Guest: 00:59:00

Yeah, yeah.

Derek Hagen: 00:59:01

I mean, it's that old adage that hot people don't have to be good in bed. Right? I mean.

Patrick Walsh: 00:59:05

Yeah, well, they burn in hell if they're not. That's what I have to say. Correct. It's in the. It's in the Bible. It's in the Bible that I'm writing right now. But yeah, so that's why I love.

In this scene afterwards, it's the next morning and everybody loves Nick. Peck gives him a hug, Max gives him a hug, Mel gives him a hug, and Judy slaps it with an invoice for the morning after pill. Good for you, girl.

Guest: 00:59:32

Yeah, that Was awesome. His look was really good, too. It was. It seemed really real. Like, what the fuck is happening?

Patrick Walsh: 00:59:39

Well, also, like, listen, they don't have. These are starving artists. They don't have insurance. They just got paid $3 for a gig.

She doesn't have $80 or whatever it cost to get a morning after pill. Yeah. Yes. Slap him with a bill for it. Good girl.

Derek Hagen: 00:59:52

Definitely not in this economy.

Patrick Walsh: 00:59:54

Exactly. He's got a split level suburban home. He can afford a goddamn morning after.

Guest: 00:59:59

Pill at a pool. That's better than child support for 18 years. Cut that out.

John Hernandez: 01:00:08

Cut that out.

Patrick Walsh: 01:00:11

Gay silence happened again.

Guest: 01:00:14

It's more case.

Patrick Walsh: 01:00:16

Silent silence for those who are listening. We introduced Derek to gay silencer.

Guest: 01:00:20

Derek.

Patrick Walsh: 01:00:20

Say something so shocking that John, I couldn't Talk for like 30 seconds. And you'll never know what it was.

Guest: 01:00:28

I thought the call was dropped. That's another T shirt, too.

Patrick Walsh: 01:00:32

Well, it's a good thing. A good thing it wasn't recording because that would be blackmail material. I'll be sending it to your.

Well, I was gonna say your wife doesn't, because your wife already knows. You already said that last time. Yeah, we know.

Guest: 01:00:42

This is true. This is true. Yeah, we don't need to go back into that. Listen to the other episode that we were on.

Patrick Walsh: 01:00:49

Yes, that's right. So now they split and they have to spend the night on the road because I guess they had to spend all the money. They have to. Sorry.

They have to spend the night on the side of the road on the side of the highway because I guess they had to spend all the money on a goddamn morning after pill. Morning after pill. And what happens when you spend the night on the side of the road of the scenic New Jersey Turnpike?

Derek Hagen: 01:01:07

Oh, yeah. Well, they go into a parking lot and Judy has had enough for the day, so she wants to go to bed early.

So, Ma, Mel and Peck are like, hanging out, having some beers, and they're like, oh, Judy, go to bed. We'll take care of it. Don't worry. We'll give him a shot. You know, go chill.

Movie trailer: 01:01:23

I'm going to bed. Let's do this.

Derek Hagen: 01:01:25

Come on, Judy.

Patrick Walsh: 01:01:26

It's barely 11.

Movie trailer: 01:01:28

Too bad. Come on, dude. We just opened some beers and you're already making him sleep outside?

Patrick Walsh: 01:01:34

Tough.

Movie trailer: 01:01:35

I don't want to stay up any longer.

Patrick Walsh: 01:01:36

So don't.

Derek Hagen: 01:01:37

We'll make sure he goes under before midnight.

John Hernandez: 01:01:39

No. Please choose Judy. Tonight's been so much fun. Please, just a few more minutes.

Movie trailer: 01:01:46

Yeah, no, no. We'll take care of him. Go to bed.

Patrick Walsh: 01:01:49

What could possibly go wrong?

Derek Hagen: 01:01:51

What could possibly go wrong with these two?

Patrick Walsh: 01:01:53

With these two?

Derek Hagen: 01:01:54

Yeah.

And then they, you know, we jump to the next morning and, you know, Judy wakes up to them hosing off a half naked Uncle Peck, like, you know, with his gorgeous fur out again, like, you know, hosing blood off of him. And.

Movie trailer: 01:02:08

Yo, put your head down so he can get the top of your dome.

Patrick Walsh: 01:02:12

Yes, ma'am.

John Hernandez: 01:02:13

Yes, ma'am.

Guest: 01:02:17

Oh, hey. Hey.

Patrick Walsh: 01:02:18

Good morning.

Movie trailer: 01:02:22

What's going on? Oh, man, it was so gnarly.

Derek Hagen: 01:02:27

You're not gonna believe what happened.

Movie trailer: 01:02:29

Try me. Fucking metalheads, dude.

Derek Hagen: 01:02:32

And then we found out what happened the night before in the parking lot. And basically, time, time, time, time.

Patrick Walsh: 01:02:39

Before we go any further, Derek, why is Judy mad at Uncle Peck in the scene? Why is she so pissed on? What she's so pissed off about? Did something happen while she was having sex?

Guest: 01:02:49

Yes. So. So she's bone in blowjob eyes, and all of a sudden she sees Uncle Peck in like, his demon or thing transformation staring at her.

And she freaks out. And as soon as he finishes, she gets up and goes to the car and sees that Peckerhead is asleep. So now she's like, wait, did I just did. Was he there?

Is it in my head? And it really. I mean, later on we find out that it was him. He's been fucking with these three for the longest time, which I was kind of curious.

Like, is that what he does? Is, are these three just kind of a midnight snack for him if he can't find anything else to eat? And.

And in the meantime, while he has these midnight snack, he just plays with them? You know, what do you guys think?

Derek Hagen: 01:03:49

I. I don't. You know, that's. That's a really good point. I.

It's like, I think all along I was just buying into the fact that he cared about them, but if he really is a demon, like, he wouldn't care to flip the script on them at the last second. So maybe you're right.

Maybe he was just keeping them around as a, you know, a security device in case he didn't find somebody to eat on any given night. What do you think, Patrick?

Patrick Walsh: 01:04:12

Well, I think it's a bit broader than that because I think this is always. This is. This is what he does. Because I'm not going to pull from Shakespeare or Greek theater this time.

I'm going to pull from quality 80s Canadian television. We're going to talk about Friday the 13th, a series, because that's what I do on my other podcast. So I'm steeped in that world.

And that's all about Uncle Louis at his cursed antiques. He cursed all these various items and sold them off to the world. And now they're causing all this mayhem. But they're not just generic curses.

They're tailored to the people that they. That buy them. And sometimes it does, you know, very small bad things. Sometimes they do very big bad things. But that's not the.

The size of the evil that they do doesn't really matter because the cost is the same. Same. It's still going to cost these people their souls. So I. I'm thinking that this is what he does. This is what Peck does. Peck.

This is the kind of demon that he does. He makes the fiance bargains. He. This is. He's the salesman. He's always looking for this kind of a contract. More souls to. To steal.

And eating people is just what he does. Like eating people is just a biological function that's going to happen one way or another. But with these people rather.

But if he finds some suckers that with a. Who could play two chords and have a dream that he can exploit, he's going to use that.

And sure, they're just a shitty band that wants to get to play lead on one job at one concert. If that's what it's going to get for your soul, I'm more than happy to take it. Let's go for a ride. Boys, girls. That's what I think because it's Judy.

Like I. They. He torments Judy a lot. The other ones he's always very nice to. We. He. It's a whole southern charm thing.

He's always very sweet, always very charming. And things that he says to Judy have an edge. And he does things like appearing in the window just when this guy's coming.

So the orgasms ruin everything. Because she's the one that's most resistant to him. The other two are more welcoming of him. They're more forgiving.

Guest: 01:06:07

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:06:08

But Judy's onto his game and so he has to work a lot harder for her.

Derek Hagen: 01:06:12

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:06:14

So everything he does with her is a test. And so like even this thing by pouring in the window, the conversation the next day should have been, hey, Peck, what were you doing?

What were you doing out of the van? But she doesn't bring it up.

Guest: 01:06:24

No.

Patrick Walsh: 01:06:25

No, she doesn't bring it up at all. So it's a little bit another day of complicity.

Derek Hagen: 01:06:29

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:06:30

You're still writing about Rum Monster and you know exactly what he's doing and you're letting it happen. Devil's bargain. That's all going to come back and bite you in the ass.

Guest: 01:06:38

Yeah, and I think he has some kind of feelings, you know, or maybe he's just lonely or maybe he's testing himself a little bit. Like, can I feel again? You know, can I. Can I be part of a family?

And maybe that's why it's called Uncle Peckerhead, you know, because I was trying to figure out a reason and why they called it that.

Patrick Walsh: 01:06:59

Knowing how the naming of movies goes, it's usually the marketing department that has nothing to do with the movie or the. Everybody knows. Well, you know that. You know this.

You're an independent filmmaker knows a lot of times you make a movie and whatever you wanted to tile it, get, get. You have no control over it. We're going to call it this basic generic thing.

And I'm guessing Pecker might have been a harder sell by calling Uncle Peckerhead.

Guest: 01:07:21

That's true. No, I love the title. The title is great.

Patrick Walsh: 01:07:24

It might have kept you off of certain platforms, but.

Derek Hagen: 01:07:26

Well, I feel like Peckerhead might have been troublesome because I believe there's a horrible series of movies called the Cock Face Killer. So you wouldn't want to confuse the two, obviously.

Guest: 01:07:37

So looking up Peckerhead in your Google.

Patrick Walsh: 01:07:40

Search, and you also don't want John Waters coming. Sorry, Derek. I'm sorry. I talked over you, Derek. I talked over. You could say that again, please.

Guest: 01:07:47

Oh, I was saying. Yeah, looking that up in your Google search could be an issue with images or videos.

Patrick Walsh: 01:07:52

Well, that too. That too. But you also just don't want John Waters coming after you either because he has that movie Pecker. So.

And if he comes after you, it's going to be weird and gross and sexy.

Derek Hagen: 01:08:03

That's right. And you know, there's also this. This whole. There's this whole, like gay porn company called like I think uncle says or something like that.

So, like, you know, you really could go down the rabbit hole, goog something like Uncle Pecker Heads.

Patrick Walsh: 01:08:21

That couldn't possibly have been a motivation moderating force. Anyway, so, anyway, what I was getting to is that something bad's about to happen. It's been a really long time since Peck at anybody.

What's gonna happen on the side of the road?

Derek Hagen: 01:08:31

Yeah.

So that night after they leave Blowjobs Eyes House and, you know, with all the confusion whether or not Judy saw him or not after, you know, Blowjob Eyes came in her so hard, quote unquote. But, you know, so they pull over Into a parking lot and you know, the gang's hanging out. Judy wants to go to bed early because she's had enough.

And Melissa and Max want to hang out and party with some beers with Uncle Peck. And they're like, you know, hey, Judy, go to sleep. Well, you know, we'll take care of it.

And of course they don't, you know, so Judy goes to bed, midnight rolls around. Max doesn't like needles, so he's going to go get Uncle Peck a blanket to sleep with.

Mel just like pushes it away in her typical like goth, you know, kind of like emo girl kind of attitude. Like, fuck this, like I'm not going to deal with this. And two metalheads pull into the parking lot.

Movie trailer: 01:09:25

Metalheads?

Patrick Walsh: 01:09:26

Uh huh.

Guest: 01:09:27

In the parking lot.

Movie trailer: 01:09:28

In the parking lot? Yep, metalheads in the parking lot.

John Hernandez: 01:09:34

I can't believe you slept through the whole thing.

Movie trailer: 01:09:39

What happened happened with the metalheads in the parking lot.

Derek Hagen: 01:09:42

And they start playing their music obnoxiously loud.

And then they see a cute little Max with his beard and the pink blanket walking and you know, they start saying, you know, hey, what did your boyfriend give you that? And they like throw a can at him and knock him on the floor.

And you know, Mel gives Peckerhead the look and she's like, you know what, just go for it. So like he, he goes over and he tells him, you know, can you, can you turn down music? Turn down the music.

And they're ignoring him and they're head banging, doing their thing. So eventually like, Peck hits stop on, you know, their boombox and he turns away and they're like, hey.

And then he morphs into like the demon, whatever it is, monster or thing as he likes to be called. And you know, then they throw a can at him and then he, he throws it through their boombox.

Patrick Walsh: 01:10:32

Holy. All right, you're cruising for bruising.

Derek Hagen: 01:11:08

And they go to like punch him. The long haired kid goes to like punch Uncle Peck in the face and you know, another argument for his gayness.

Like he catches the guy's full fist in his mouth and then bites it off, you know, Accurate. I know. Come on. Hey there, Uncle Peck.

Guest: 01:11:27

Hey.

Derek Hagen: 01:11:29

And carnage ensues.

So like, you know, then he rips that kid's face off and then the other guy's like freaking out and he rips his head off, complete with his spinal cord. And then you get like an Evil Dead esque blood spray on Max and Mel.

Patrick Walsh: 01:12:07

Giggling and laughing. Huh? Yep. Damn. Cool.

Derek Hagen: 01:12:18

And you cut to the next morning where they're Hosing each other off with all the blood and stuff. And Judy wants to know.

Guest: 01:12:25

Yeah.

Derek Hagen: 01:12:25

Giggling and laughing.

Patrick Walsh: 01:12:26

Very Mortal Kombat. I was hoping you would play it like a guitar, but it didn't happen. But that's okay.

Guest: 01:12:31

And. And also, I. I think it was one of the best special effects in the whole movie when he. So crazy. Very, very well done.

Patrick Walsh: 01:12:42

One job and you don't care. They don't care. You kill people and you don't care.

Derek Hagen: 01:12:52

And, you know, of course, Mama Judy's all fucked off, and she's like, you know, like, I gave you guys one fucking job. Like, you know, you had one thing to do, and, like, you couldn't do that.

Movie trailer: 01:13:05

You think Peck killing two more people is cool? Jeez, I'm grateful.

Derek Hagen: 01:13:10

Much.

Patrick Walsh: 01:13:10

I'll say.

Movie trailer: 01:13:11

Peck broke his promise. You broke your promise to defend Max.

Patrick Walsh: 01:13:16

Yeah.

Guest: 01:13:16

Your uninterrupted Judy sleep.

Movie trailer: 01:13:19

Unbelievable.

John Hernandez: 01:13:20

Now, don't be too hard on Judy. And I don't need any veneration. I was just doing what any friend would do in a situation like that.

Patrick Walsh: 01:13:30

And this is when they run into Shiloh again. Shiloh was the douchey guy with the mohawk. We have that. But now this time it's different. The last time, he was. It was a power play.

I'm more punk than you are, basically. You guys are so green and lame.

But now he's really pissed off because his band has been bumped or bumped down on the roster or whatever concert they're going to play. Instead of Dominion Rising being the main event they're now opening for. Duh. And that is not gonna go well with Shia.

And I'm playing all the audio for that.

Derek Hagen: 01:14:01

Listen, I just talked to the promoter.

Patrick Walsh: 01:14:03

If you can even call him that, and he mentioned that you guys are headlining tonight. Is that right?

Movie trailer: 01:14:11

I guess, if that's what he said.

Patrick Walsh: 01:14:14

Huh. Weird. You know, from one artist to another, I have to say, I think this lineup was made in haste with a.

Derek Hagen: 01:14:22

Reckless inattention to the fans who came out to see us.

Patrick Walsh: 01:14:27

You know, Bernardsville is kind of a home away from home for us. And from what I understand, your band is greener than Sugar Snaps.

Movie trailer: 01:14:38

I see.

Derek Hagen: 01:14:39

You do?

Patrick Walsh: 01:14:40

I'm delighted to hear. We'll just go and explain that there was a misunderstanding and get the set time switched.

Movie trailer: 01:14:49

Oh, no. There's been no misunderstanding.

Derek Hagen: 01:14:53

What was that?

Movie trailer: 01:14:56

We are closing out the show. Your band is opening for our band?

Patrick Walsh: 01:15:06

Poor, poor little Jack. Be Beanstalk or not, you don't want to mess with this giant.

Movie trailer: 01:15:17

Oh, yeah? Or what?

John Hernandez: 01:15:27

Hinge off the vehicle, hombre.

Patrick Walsh: 01:15:31

You're lucky I'm a pacifist.

Guest: 01:15:32

Shiloh's great. In the words of Judy. He even walks like a thing, kid.

Patrick Walsh: 01:15:38

It's true. Laos.

Derek Hagen: 01:15:41

Laos. Yeah. And then, you know, he tries to, like, douchally convince her to, like, have the promoter change the, you know, the order of the bands. And my.

My favorite line, just because it's my favorite word, is, after they're done with that encounter, both her and Uncle Peck are just like, what a cunt. What a cunt. And that. That basically sums up Shiloh and one succinct line.

Guest: 01:16:06

And I think this scene is actually pretty important coming up when they are playing. And this is where we can actually really hear, I think, for almost the first time, how good they are.

And that is where Uncle Peck kind of gets everyone to come out and dance and they're feeling it, and they're like, oh, my God, this is why we came out to fucking tour. To get this feeling. And they're fucking high off this feeling. Especially when they go to the hotel. Max is jumping and dancing, dancing on the bed.

And this is where Judy and Uncle Peck connect for the first time, where there's actually trust now starting to come in.

Movie trailer: 01:16:45

Look, I know you and I haven't exactly seen eye to eye so far this tour, and I still haven't exactly come to terms with the fact that you are a monster.

John Hernandez: 01:16:59

Well, I prefer the term.

Movie trailer: 01:17:03

Thing that eats people. But I also know that you're not a bad guy. And I'm happy you're here.

John Hernandez: 01:17:15

Sometimes, coming from you, that is a glowing endorsement.

Guest: 01:17:22

And all the game playing that Peck has been doing with her has finally paid off. And she is letting her guard down with him. And that. This is where it's like, oh, shit. This movie has heart.

Movie trailer: 01:17:36

For as long as I can remember, this is all I have ever wanted to do. And tonight felt like the first time that I was actually doing it. So thank you.

John Hernandez: 01:17:51

My pleasure.

Patrick Walsh: 01:17:52

As she walks into the final trap.

Guest: 01:17:54

Yes, exactly.

Patrick Walsh: 01:17:56

She lets that final thing, and she's like, oh, you know what? You can do your own needles tonight. I trust you. Foolish girl.

Guest: 01:18:03

Exactly.

John Hernandez: 01:18:05

Almost show time. I should probably get to it. You want to come inside, make sure everything's on the open up?

Movie trailer: 01:18:18

Nah, I trust you. Night, Beck.

Patrick Walsh: 01:18:24

I did want to talk about this concert just for a bit, because the thing I think is great. We get to see Shiloh's band play.

Guest: 01:18:30

Yes.

Patrick Walsh: 01:18:31

How good are they? How good is hate?

Guest: 01:18:33

Not so good.

Patrick Walsh: 01:18:35

Greed.

John Hernandez: 01:18:37

Power.

Patrick Walsh: 01:18:39

Hatred. Fear. Bullets. War. Bondage.

Derek Hagen: 01:18:48

Dam.

Patrick Walsh: 01:18:52

You Know what? His band is amazing. He's hilarious.

Guest: 01:18:57

He's hilarious. He plays it so well. He does such a great job playing that douche rocket that everyone loves to hate.

Patrick Walsh: 01:19:06

And what I think is great, I think it's very funny. Something that's not said out loud is that this gig that he was so mad about, the being bumpfront, because this is our town, they love us here.

This is our most loyal fan base. It's the worst venue yet. It's this shitty cabin on the side of a highway with like 12 white college kids there. That's it.

It's not this big rocking thing. And they're not even that into it. Like they're preppy ass kids. And this is what he was so mad about.

But you're right, the thing that happens when Dove finally takes over, we get to hear them for the first time and they're awesome. They've got a great sound to them. But the thing that I thought was great was that they upped the stakes.

Because earlier in the film, Peck had said, oh, I don't need veneration and.

John Hernandez: 01:19:55

I don't need any veneration. I was.

Patrick Walsh: 01:19:57

But he's about when he really does really all he wants. Oh, yeah. That's what, you know, otherworldly things live for. And he's about to get it because they dedicate a song into it.

Guest: 01:20:07

We're done.

Derek Hagen: 01:20:08

If anyone has a place for us to crash tonight, that'll be most excellent.

Patrick Walsh: 01:20:12

We got some demos and T shirts for sale.

Derek Hagen: 01:20:15

This is our last song.

Patrick Walsh: 01:20:16

It goes out to our buddy pack. 1, 2, 3, 4. And this is me being boring again with my Shakespeare Greek stuff. Is that. Wait a minute.

In that era, the difference between verse and PR prose, you know, poetry and regular spoken word prose, was dialogue that was spoken between mortals, earthly things or peasants when it comes to Shakespeare. But in Greek theater, verses for the gods, it's what the gods say. It's prayers to the gods. It's veneration of the gods.

So when all of a sudden they're like, we're going to dedicate this song to Peck, he lights up like a Christmas tree.

Guest: 01:21:01

Oh, hands down, he loves it.

Derek Hagen: 01:21:04

Yeah, he sure does.

Patrick Walsh: 01:21:06

And the name of the song is if you. But if you go to venerate monster, demon. Are you ever going to dedicate a song to him? Maybe. Don't pick one. That's called I would die for you.

Guest: 01:21:21

That's true.

Patrick Walsh: 01:21:22

You just made a prayer. A prayer. Prayer is a pledge. Yeah, you just pledged yourself to him.

Guest: 01:21:28

You just gave yourself to him. Yep.

Patrick Walsh: 01:21:30

And that's what Derek says. He starts getting everybody to dance. And you can't say. People can't say no to Pac. They can't say no to a sales routine. Sales thing.

He's selling all their merchandise in their CDs in a way that they can't.

Movie trailer: 01:21:42

Did you take a box of demos? Have you been giving any away?

Derek Hagen: 01:21:48

No.

Movie trailer: 01:21:49

Ah, we are definitely missing a box.

John Hernandez: 01:21:53

Hey, I found my new calling, y'all. 35 demos sold.

Patrick Walsh: 01:22:06

And the crowd's not really that into them initially, until Pectus walks over to individual people and you just seem like, why don't you go dance? Hey, why don't we go dance? Not dance for them. Dance for me. Because the song is dedicated to me. Yeah, they're singing it, but it's for me.

I want you to see Dance for me. That's the way I take it. It adds some creepiness to it.

Guest: 01:22:29

The more we talk about it, the more I'm like, you know, I'm like, wow. Maybe he is just the devil, you know, and he's just bored down in hell and now he's popping up here for a little bit.

And I'll go back down and do whatever he wants.

Patrick Walsh: 01:22:43

We'll move on to the next one.

Guest: 01:22:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:22:46

He's met a whole bunch. He's met a whole bunch of people with dreams. Yeah, we're gonna need a roadie.

Guest: 01:22:50

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:22:51

Yeah.

Guest: 01:22:51

It's really interesting. I love that the director just kind of said, you know, this is how he wrote it for the audience to kind of interpret it the way you want it to be. And.

Yeah. I like the idea that Uncle Puckerhead is the devil and.

Patrick Walsh: 01:23:08

Yeah. Because it's funny, after they have. They make this big pledge, all their dreams come true.

Guest: 01:23:11

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:23:11

They get. They get that gig. They get the gig. It's happening. They're going to open for the Queef Queens.

Guest: 01:23:16

That's right.

Patrick Walsh: 01:23:16

But before they do, they have to spend one night with.

Guest: 01:23:20

What's the band's name again? Dominion Rising.

Derek Hagen: 01:23:22

Dominion Rising. And some fan offers to house them all for the. For night.

Guest: 01:23:28

Yeah, at. At her grandmother's house.

Movie trailer: 01:23:32

Are you guys still looking for a place to crash tonight? We are indeed. Well, if you'd like, you can come with me and my grandma's. We got tons of room. Really? You're sure she wouldn't mind?

Yeah, she's totally cool with it. We already have another band staying the night. Oh, rad. Who's the other band?

Patrick Walsh: 01:23:50

What happens at Grandma's house?

Guest: 01:23:52

Oh, my God. What doesn't happen?

Derek Hagen: 01:23:54

What doesn't happen at grandma's house?

Patrick Walsh: 01:23:56

Who else is at grandma's house?

Guest: 01:23:58

I mean, there's an altercation with Dominion Rising and du. They take over the big bedroom because they're like, well, there's four guys. I mean, not to be sexist, but you know, it's just body mass.

Patrick Walsh: 01:24:11

I guess we can officially call each other tour mates now. Here's the situation. I talked to the girl and there.

Guest: 01:24:18

Are two rooms in this house, one for each band.

Patrick Walsh: 01:24:22

Now I figured given the fact that.

Derek Hagen: 01:24:24

You all are last minute additions, we'll.

Patrick Walsh: 01:24:26

Take the larger room. I mean, that and the fact that we're four men just need more space.

Guest: 01:24:36

What do you think I'm being sexist or something?

Patrick Walsh: 01:24:38

I mean, this is just biology here. More body mass and all that. You guys understand, right?

Guest: 01:24:45

So, and then does just like, fuck it, we'll take the other room. And they get to the other room and it's really small. And the band is like, you know what, you should take the bigger room.

And he's like, oh, come on, guys. Like, well, don't flatter yourself. You snore like a son of a bitch.

So Uncle Peck goes to bed and the two, Max and Mel watch a Toxic Avenger movie, I think Toxi 3 or something like that. And I'm wondering, why are they showing this? You know, and then later on you find out why. But so she. So Judy goes and gets her all the gear.

When she comes back, Mel is watching a news segment of these two hotel workers that were eaten by something at the same hotel that they were staying at.

Patrick Walsh: 01:25:38

Well, it was a grisly scene as.

Derek Hagen: 01:25:40

The police were called over here to the Moon motel on Route 9, where officers discovered the dead and half eaten.

Patrick Walsh: 01:25:45

Body of two motel employees. The officers are offering no information on.

Derek Hagen: 01:25:50

Leads at this time, but they have confirmed the identities of the two victims.

Guest: 01:25:54

And this is where they find out that Uncle Peckerhead is full of. And they're like, where's Max? And they go look and they can't find Uncle Peck.

And they go in the other room and there's Max all of a sudden with the script. They switch it, they flip it.

The band has kidnapped Max and now has kidnapped Judy and Mel because they want to take over their spot at the indie place.

Patrick Walsh: 01:26:25

It looks like you guys won't be making the show tomorrow night, but fear not, we'll just.

Movie trailer: 01:26:33

Hey, it's past midnight and my grandma has work really early in the morning. You guys really need to keep it down. Or she's going to be pissed.

Patrick Walsh: 01:26:40

Of course. Of course.

Guest: 01:26:42

Namaste.

Patrick Walsh: 01:26:44

Oh, where was I? Oh, the show. Fear not.

Derek Hagen: 01:26:51

We'll just make sure to stop by the venue in case the Queef Queens need a last minute replacement.

Patrick Walsh: 01:27:02

Now all we have to do is round up your white trash roadie and.

Derek Hagen: 01:27:07

We'Ll be on our way. Dominion Rising wants to open for the Queef Queens, apparently. And so they kidnap our heroes of duh.

And they're on the floor bound and gagged, you know, Uncle Peck to the rescue. So he slams open the door and crushes one dude behind the door.

So you get a blood splatter and you know, then you're kind of told what happens the next morning as they're driving, driving back home.

John Hernandez: 01:27:39

That was pretty wild back there. Anybody have any music they they to listen to? Hey, Max, you, you want to choose a station.

Derek Hagen: 01:28:16

In the van? You know, in shock, silence. You see the band like covered with like, you know, blood and you know, dookie, dookie and dookies. Yes.

John Hernandez: 01:28:26

Listen, I am really sorry that you're all covered in my dookie, but. But I came to your rescue, didn't I?

Derek Hagen: 01:28:39

As they recount the events of the evening and you see Peck, you know, eviscerating a bunch of guys and you know, ripping intestines out, spitting acid on someone, beating one of the guys heads repeatedly with a bad.

And then with our good friend Shiloh, he saves the piece de resistance and he rips his heart out, starts to eat it, but apparently gives him explosive diarrhea. So instead of just shitting his pants, he pulls his pants down and sprays the entire cast with his liquidy diarrhea.

Yeah, and apparently this is where the tide turns for Max and Mel. Because even though the night or two before they witnessed him kill people in the parking lot, this was a step too far.

Movie trailer: 01:29:26

Were you able to do that when you sedated yourself?

John Hernandez: 01:29:31

Just some kind of sixth sense shit, I guess. Like when a mother knows that her kids is hers, you know, it's one.

Patrick Walsh: 01:29:40

Thing to kill people, it's another thing that's shit on by somebody.

Derek Hagen: 01:29:43

And I agree, you know, if you're gonna shit on me, that's, that's it.

Patrick Walsh: 01:29:47

My favorite part of this whole scene is before even the massacre happens. It's like the, the band, the Shiloh and Shitheads, they're just like, yeah, we're gonna do this. I'm ready to do that.

We're gonna kick ass and we're gonna take over the whole scene. Knock, knock, knock. Can you hold it down. My grandma has to work in the morning.

Guest: 01:30:04

That was so funny. Namaste. Namaste.

Patrick Walsh: 01:30:07

Namaste. You. You. I love that.

Guest: 01:30:12

You're lucky I'm a pacifist.

Movie trailer: 01:30:13

Let's.

Guest: 01:30:14

Let's kidnap these. God, he's Shiloh.

Patrick Walsh: 01:30:17

So I just love this next day, too. That. That they're covered in blooded. That does not get taken over the rest of the movie.

Derek Hagen: 01:30:23

You smell like. Is that.

Movie trailer: 01:30:26

No.

Guest: 01:30:27

Oh, yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:30:28

There's a long time till the end of the movie. Much time progresses, and at no point did somebody take a shower, because I feel like they're marked now. They're marked.

Guest: 01:30:35

Yeah, they're total punk, man. They're total punk.

Patrick Walsh: 01:30:38

A total punk. But also they're marked now. That's never going to come off. You're in too deep now.

Guest: 01:30:44

Yeah, they're in it now. And. And I don't know if we mentioned during this, the storytelling going back and forth.

We have grandma and the girl that invited him over to Grandma's house gagged and tied in the van.

Patrick Walsh: 01:31:00

Now our heroes have now kidnapped an old woman and her granddaughter.

Guest: 01:31:03

And Judy was kind of saying, it's over. And, no, Uncle Peck's like, no, it's not over yet. He somehow kind of gets them to go all the way there.

Movie trailer: 01:31:14

How many people have you killed since we started this tour? Don't lie to us.

John Hernandez: 01:31:18

Well, counting the four back there, just let them go. No. No can do. I mean, not at the moment, at least. We'll play our show tonight, and then we'll decide our next move.

Derek Hagen: 01:31:30

No.

Movie trailer: 01:31:31

No, we are not playing tonight.

Patrick Walsh: 01:31:33

What? Come on.

John Hernandez: 01:31:34

No, I second that. I mean, you told me yourself, this is your dream finally realized. Now if you don't follow through with it, you're gonna regret it.

Patrick Walsh: 01:31:49

What I love about this is everything out of Peck's mouth is a threat. But it's covered in show. Covered in cotton candy. You don't notice. Oh, well, Judy, I don't think that would be a good idea.

If you don't go through with this, you're gonna regret this for the rest of your lives.

Guest: 01:32:03

Exactly.

Patrick Walsh: 01:32:05

I'm warning you, bitch, I'm gonna get what's mine.

Guest: 01:32:08

This is another big scene that comes out. Judy spe. This. This lady that has a label record, and she was like, hey, I heard.

Derek Hagen: 01:32:21

Jen Jennings, her idol.

Patrick Walsh: 01:32:23

Her idol. It's Judy's idol.

Guest: 01:32:24

Judy's idol. And she gets to talk to her.

Patrick Walsh: 01:32:28

Leader of the queer queens. Yeah. And, yeah, they want to give her a record deal.

Derek Hagen: 01:32:32

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:32:32

Just listened to your Demo the other day. Your band is great.

Movie trailer: 01:32:36

That's cool. That means a lot. I. We thank you. We all really love you guys, girls, women, your band, we love. Also nervous. Very, very nervous. Do I look it?

Patrick Walsh: 01:32:57

A bit.

Guest: 01:32:58

But, you know, nerves are good.

Patrick Walsh: 01:33:00

So what's the plan for the next release?

Movie trailer: 01:33:04

Well, we just got back from tour and things are kind of up in the air at the moment, so. I don't know, actually. Totally.

Patrick Walsh: 01:33:23

Hey, if you're into it, we should get together next week and talk. My partner and I, we own a label and I. I think your stuff is right up our alley. Wow.

Movie trailer: 01:33:33

Really?

Patrick Walsh: 01:33:34

Basically, they're about to go on, but they kick Peck out of the band.

Movie trailer: 01:33:36

It's over, Peck. You're out of the band.

John Hernandez: 01:33:39

Excuse me. I don't think you have the authority.

Derek Hagen: 01:33:43

To make that decision.

Movie trailer: 01:33:45

Okay, fan vote. Who wants Peck out of the band? Raise him.

Derek Hagen: 01:33:51

Yes. And they vote unanimously at this time to kick him out of the band.

Movie trailer: 01:33:56

After our set, you're gonna let them go and drive off, and if you don't, don't. I'm going to call the cops and tell them everything.

Patrick Walsh: 01:34:04

And he says, I don't think you have the authority to make that decision. Which they don't. There's only one authority, and it's not you, honey.

John Hernandez: 01:34:13

Well, Judy, you might want to rethink your ultimatum and y'all might want to rethink your vote, seeing that it's so close to midnight.

Patrick Walsh: 01:34:31

You know.

John Hernandez: 01:34:36

Knock em dead, y'all.

Guest: 01:34:38

Yeah, he really kind of shows his power and, you know, kind of drops the mask a little bit. This is the first time where I think all the bandmates feel very threatened by him and see him for the monster he really is.

And it's kind of a really intense scene that's not over the top, but kind of terrifying, you know, he definitely.

Patrick Walsh: 01:35:03

Have to save something for the end, man.

Guest: 01:35:05

Yeah. He manipulates them this whole way and it's finally revealed that they've been being played this whole time. He is not a nice guy and.

Patrick Walsh: 01:35:17

It'S pretty much okay, you're going to kick me out of the band. Enjoy the show. Enjoy the show.

Guest: 01:35:21

Yeah, it's almost midnight, he says. You know, he's. He's basically saying, if you kick me out of the band, I'm going to eat all these fuckers.

Patrick Walsh: 01:35:29

And you.

Guest: 01:35:30

And you.

Patrick Walsh: 01:35:31

Yeah, yeah. See all the. I don't really think all the fuckers.

I'm looking you right in the eye and I'm saying, you know, what I do at midnight and you Just piss me off.

Guest: 01:35:40

No Mr. Nice Guy at this point.

Patrick Walsh: 01:35:42

But fortunately he leaves and, and, and they get to go on stage and they do the concert. Everything ends great, right?

Derek Hagen: 01:35:49

Oh, no. The cops bust in at the last second.

Guest: 01:35:52

Wow, what a. What a flip, huh? I did not see this ending coming. Holy schnikes. She get.

She gets a tap on the shoulder and the police officer's like, ma'am, is that your white van in the parking lot? And just.

Patrick Walsh: 01:36:05

Was it a police officer? Was it a police officer? Because he wasn't wearing mirrored sunglasses, Derek.

Guest: 01:36:09

That's true. He didn't have any sunglasses. He must have been a security guard to go in there.

Patrick Walsh: 01:36:13

He. He was an imposter.

Guest: 01:36:15

He was an imposter. We all know real cops wear sunglasses at night.

Patrick Walsh: 01:36:20

They get blamed for all the murders.

Guest: 01:36:22

Yeah. And. Yeah, and they have a really great. I thought all the news footage was great.

A lot of low budget indie movies and I'm including myself in here on little shorts that I've done. It's really hard to do like news footage or have an anchor sound like a news person.

I thought they did a great job with all, all the news stuff in the courtroom.

Patrick Walsh: 01:36:48

When Judge Morris Roland declared a mistrial.

Guest: 01:36:51

In the multiple homicide case involving three.

Patrick Walsh: 01:36:53

Members of New Jersey rock band Duh. After nearly two full days of deliberations, 12 jurors returned to the courtroom split.

Guest: 01:37:01

whether to find the accused,: 2027

Patrick Walsh: 01:37:04

Year old Judith Campbell, 25 year old Maxwell Jenkins, and 24 year old male Melissa Mont, guilty of murdering four men on the night of August 15th. Many attribute the surprise outcome to Katrina.

Guest: 01:37:15

McNeil and her grandmother, Ruth Diedrich, who.

Patrick Walsh: 01:37:18

Testified in court last Friday that an older, yet to be identified man was responsible for the deaths of four men in Dietrich's Cottage last August.

Guest: 01:37:26

The band, who have long maintained that.

Patrick Walsh: 01:37:28

They were taken hostage and unable to escape both during and after the murders, left the courtroom earlier today, free for the first time in seven months. There are currently no plans for a reach trial. Yeah. So they go to trial and they go to jail forever. Nope.

Derek Hagen: 01:37:44

No, we, we cut it eight months later. Yeah.

And the band gets off because the grandmother and the, the fan come and testify and say that, you know, an unidentified man a la Uncle Peck was the one that murdered Dominion Rising. Yeah. And was holding them hostage.

Patrick Walsh: 01:38:04

The witness sketch of Peck made me pee.

Derek Hagen: 01:38:07

Indeed. Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:38:10

Child drawing a buckle back. Yeah. So they get off on a technicality and they're. It's more publicity for the band. They're have a big opening.

Guest: 01:38:18

Big opening And Derek.

Patrick Walsh: 01:38:22

That's a big opening. That's not okay.

Derek Hagen: 01:38:23

I know. Not as big as Derek's opening bottom behavior.

Guest: 01:38:30

You just got some heterosexual silence. How about that? Oh, you big queens.

Derek Hagen: 01:38:35

Oh.

Patrick Walsh: 01:38:38

That'S a hate crime. You can't do it. Doesn't go the other way. That's not allowed. You can't do it the other way. We're not there.

Guest: 01:38:42

How dare you say that yet. I can't say that yet.

Patrick Walsh: 01:38:46

You can't sit with us anymore.

Guest: 01:38:47

I thought we were there.

Patrick Walsh: 01:38:51

You can call me bottom and I can't call you big queens.

Derek Hagen: 01:38:54

You're canceled.

Guest: 01:38:55

Derek got canceled again. God damn it. How about my sweet queens? How about that?

Patrick Walsh: 01:39:04

All right.

Derek Hagen: 01:39:05

No, you're right. We're vicious queens. It's fine.

Patrick Walsh: 01:39:08

We're vicious queens and we just got thrown off by a giant hole. I don't know what we're talking about now. Big openings. We're big openings. And I know where we are. Big openings. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So.

No, they're playing a concert. It's going great. Yes.

Guest: 01:39:20

Until. Dun, dun, dun. She sees Uncle Peck in the crowd. And I thought this was one of the scariest scenes of the movie.

And it's the very end scene where she sees Uncle Peck, and then you just cut to her and you just hear violence getting closer and closer to her. And she is. Can't move in fear just watching all this carnage happening to her. And it was actually a really, really scary moment.

Patrick Walsh: 01:39:50

It was very effective. And I love, too, that the moment she see, like, she sees him and then she hears her watch alarm go up. Time. Time to feedback.

Derek Hagen: 01:39:56

Yeah.

Guest: 01:39:58

It.

Patrick Walsh: 01:39:59

It's midnight. Yeah. Did you think. Did you think you were gonna get your dream? Did you really think you're gonna get. Because that's the other thing.

Like, again, back to Friday the 13th. The series. Whatever the curse is, whatever it promises, you'll get all the way there, but you'll never get it. You'll die chasing it.

It will get you just there to get that little taste of it. And you're gonna die. Never, ever get. And that's.

Guest: 01:40:17

That's.

Patrick Walsh: 01:40:18

That's what happens here. That's why I keep calling it the fian bargain. This is classic. F. Classic Devil's Devil's passion fact that they never work.

Derek Hagen: 01:40:26

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:40:26

Even if you're all cute and charming and it's a happy little family and you think you're just not. You're not. You're not doing anything wrong. It's him. Nope. You're in for penny and for £ yeah. And it would.

Guest: 01:40:34

It would be a great reveal if they had a sequel, you know, if you cut right to it, you know, and they make it to the 13 minutes. And he's still a demon.

Patrick Walsh: 01:40:43

He's. I read in the interview that he said he has a couple of sequel ideas and Mike has actually wanted to go on with the band without packing.

Had another kind of adventure, which I also don't mind. I also. I was kind of like what I said with you guys, Derek, about the. The house Harker crowd.

Like, you could take the house Harker boys and drop them into any scenario to be interesting.

Guest: 01:41:03

Yeah. You know.

Patrick Walsh: 01:41:04

You know, they can fight off zombies, they can fight off aliens, they can fight off the mafia. I would be in to find themselves in musicals. I would find that interesting. And the same thing with Duh to a degree.

But he's also got a plan for Pecker as well.

Guest: 01:41:15

You know, what side characters we haven't even talked about, which I really thought would be a fun side story, is the three people that she worked with at a bakery. And you had, like, the manager, you had the old lady and then the goth girl. And they were hilarious.

Patrick Walsh: 01:41:33

The old lady did have one of my favorite. The old lady did have one of my favorite lines of the movie. Yeah. Because she's leaving. She's quit to go join the band.

And the manager is forcing this goodbye.

Guest: 01:41:49

Being Judy's last morning with us, I.

Patrick Walsh: 01:41:51

Was thinking it'd be nice if we.

Derek Hagen: 01:41:52

Could all go around the.

Guest: 01:41:53

And say what we appreciate most about her.

Patrick Walsh: 01:41:56

I'll start us off.

Movie trailer: 01:41:57

Scott, you really don't need to.

Patrick Walsh: 01:41:58

Your scones, Judy. Your scones are truly a revelation.

Guest: 01:42:04

One bite, one crumb can send me.

Patrick Walsh: 01:42:06

Places I never before dreamt I could go.

Guest: 01:42:10

Your flavor combinations are so refined and.

Patrick Walsh: 01:42:14

Excuse my language, freaking electric. Look at me here.

Guest: 01:42:17

I'm babbling on and on, on.

Derek Hagen: 01:42:19

Doris, is there something you'd like to say?

Patrick Walsh: 01:42:22

The old woman just goes, well, Judy.

John Hernandez: 01:42:25

Even though I wouldn't feed your macaroons.

Patrick Walsh: 01:42:28

To my dogs, I still respect your work ethic and don't wish you any specific harm. I don't wish you any specific harm.

Derek Hagen: 01:42:38

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:42:41

Oh, again, that's right. This. That whole opening scene is always a nice. The whole movie calling her little Judy shit scones.

Derek Hagen: 01:42:47

I thought her scones were shit.

Guest: 01:42:49

Little Judy shit scones.

Derek Hagen: 01:42:51

Oh, that's right. Yeah, the goth girl, Right? The goth girl says her scones were. After the manager went on and on about how great they are, I thought her zones were.

Patrick Walsh: 01:43:01

I mean, I would have loved the manager who clearly wanted a bonus.

Guest: 01:43:04

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'd love to see just those three going on their own adventure, you know, maybe pickleball or.

Or maybe they're into bingo or something like that, you know, and they make it to the championship bingo night. I would love to see something like that. A bowling team, anything.

Patrick Walsh: 01:43:21

I love that. The scones come back to scones. Is another test. Yes.

Guest: 01:43:25

Yes, that's right. Uncle Peck knows he has a really good recipe, and maybe we should share some. Our recipe there, Judy.

Patrick Walsh: 01:43:33

Yeah. Yeah. Again, it's. I don't know if I said in this one, because we had those technical.

I don't remember if I said that, but that there's a whole southern thing where everything is a test.

Guest: 01:43:43

Yes.

Patrick Walsh: 01:43:43

Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna put this. This plate of scones in front of you. And whether you take it or not is a test. Whether you take a bite of it or not is a test.

Whether you like it or not is a test.

Guest: 01:43:52

And one of the funniest moments of the movie is when she finally does eat the scone and she's like. And she's just going, oh, God damn it.

Patrick Walsh: 01:44:02

But it's another time where you're giving it to Peck.

Guest: 01:44:04

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:44:04

You said yes again.

Guest: 01:44:05

She's just so. God damn it. I don't want to like this.

Patrick Walsh: 01:44:07

God damn it. You could have just thrown it out. You could have taken it all. You could have just said no, but you didn't. You took in the other room.

You took in secret.

Guest: 01:44:13

But she took a bite of the apple.

Patrick Walsh: 01:44:16

Thank you. Yes. Interesting, Judy. Little Judy Shit scones. Oh, I would watch that movie, too.

Guest: 01:44:23

I would watch the.

Patrick Walsh: 01:44:24

Out of there, boys. I think we've done Uncle Peckerhead.

Guest: 01:44:27

We did it. We did it.

Derek Hagen: 01:44:29

Yes. We did it.

Patrick Walsh: 01:44:31

Granted, the writer, director, and has worked on a lot of shorts and things. It's his first full length major movie. I'm eager to see what he does next.

Guest: 01:44:43

Yes.

Derek Hagen: 01:44:44

Yeah, me too. 100%.

Patrick Walsh: 01:44:46

And I fell in love with the main four as well. And I would watch them at anything at this point. I think they're great.

Guest: 01:44:52

Yeah, they did. They did a fantastic job.

Patrick Walsh: 01:44:54

And this kind of chemistry is rare, so. Yeah, so it's a thumbs up for me.

All right, boys, before we go, Derek, why don't you tell the nice people at home where they could find out more about you and where they can watch some of your video in films?

Guest: 01:45:10

Sure. I don't market or post too much stuff, but we do have a Twitter account. It's just House Harker. And then our Instagram is also House Harker.

If you do want to watch our movie, you can watch it on prime or Tubi TV for free. And it's just. I had a bloody good time at House Harker. If you want to watch our YouTube stuff, you can go to Good Cops TV on YouTube.

And we have a series called Good Cops. And then we also have a series called Tumbleweed, which is kind of based off the video game Red Dead Redemption.

Patrick Walsh: 01:45:39

And for those of you who might be new to the show, we covered. I had a bloody good time at House Harker on the show. I guess it was two years ago, and it was the surprise hit of the season. It's delightful film.

It's genuinely funny. And that's why he's here, because we love him. And hot. I want to call the show Hot Cops, but that's not what it should be called, Derek.

Guest: 01:45:56

That's. That's a different show that we got cooking right now.

Patrick Walsh: 01:46:00

Is it, though? Is it, though? Because you guys are all pretty hot, you know, for straight guys. You're all. We're all getting naked together a lot. We do.

Guest: 01:46:05

We do get naked. Naked quite a bit.

Patrick Walsh: 01:46:08

See, I'm telling John. What can we do with this guy? Well, what can't we do with this guy?

Guest: 01:46:13

Yeah, these are things that I did when I. I didn't have children. And now I'm like, man, they're gonna see this someday.

Patrick Walsh: 01:46:20

They're probably watching it right now. We sent them a link to keep them quiet. John, tell people more about where. Where can they subscribe to Bear World magazine?

And where can they find out more about Stan Mechanic? And where can they follow you?

Derek Hagen: 01:46:35

Oh, my goodness. Yes, I know. Please. For Stan the Mechanic, my website, stanthemecanic.com and at stand the Mechanic on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.

And, you know, I have a bunch of content up there again, getting ready to film and do some more stuff. So, you know, stay tuned.

And for Bear World magazine, The website is bearworldmag.com we have a lot of exciting stuff coming up this year, including the second annual Bear World Magazine Awards that are taking place in Provincetown for Bear Week later this summer. So please check us out.

Patrick Walsh: 01:47:21

Fabulous.

And just out of curiosity, if somebody out there there wants to check out Stan Mechanic, if you had one episode of Stan Mechanic to recommend, like, your favorite, which one would that be? Like, what's a good place to start with Stan?

Derek Hagen: 01:47:36

I would go with the bat. And that's currently streaming on the website. Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:47:40

It's Agnes Morehead for the win.

Derek Hagen: 01:47:42

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:47:42

Open Lesbians for the win. Yeah. Okay. All right, boys. Thank you very much for hanging out with me.

Thank you for being patient with the technical troubles, and thank you for being fabulous.

Guest: 01:47:50

Oh, you're.

Derek Hagen: 01:47:51

It's always a pleasure.

Guest: 01:47:52

Thank you for having. Having us again. This is. This was really fun. I. I love.

Derek Hagen: 01:47:56

Yeah.

Patrick Walsh: 01:47:57

This was fabulous. Thank you once again to my guest, John Hernandez and Derek Hogan for coming on.

Guest: 01:48:04

I love watching.

Patrick Walsh: 01:48:07

This episode. I. I almost know why I had.

Guest: 01:48:10

This huge mental block against it.

Patrick Walsh: 01:48:11

I mean, I do, but listening to it, you would never know. So my. My fears were all for nothing. So. How about them apples now? If you like John on this.

And it's kind of difficult to say what I need to say given the way things are right now, but this movie is pretty much, I can't believe the leopard d myself face situation. Because in this case, Uncle Peck is pretty straightforward.

Right from the beginning, he tells the members of DUH exactly what he is and exactly what he does. And they just keep getting more and more okay with it. And every step, they become more and more complacent. So they just keep saying, oh, it's okay.

He's doing. He's killing people for us. He's killing the people to defend us. He's killing people to get us paid. He's killing people to make my dreams come true.

He'll never turn on me, right?

And I'm reminded of what Pastor Ben said during the Pumpkinhead episode a couple of years ago when he said, when you're making a deal with the devil, you always gotta read the fine print.

Because no matter how good the terms of that deal look, no matter how sweet that deal is, the devil is always gonna get his due and you are not going to like it.

Much has been said in recent days about leprosy in your face situations that I really don't feel the need to go into it very much much because I just don't want to talk about it, okay? I'm in full denial, okay? And you respect my right to be there. But movies like this drag me back into it.

Tim, I would say that this movie is a warning about when somebody says, I'm a leopard, that's going to eat your face to believe them. But it's too late for that, isn't it? For now, I'm just going to be standing up here like Judy at the microphone, watching the mayhem.

And let's see who's standing at the Other end. Sorry. I wish I had something more inspirational to say, but I don't.

But despite my dire worldview at the moment, ironically, I feel like me for the first time all year in the past few weeks. Just in time for the world to go to hell. I am at my full capacity so I can absorb every bit of it and still be powerless to do anything about it.

So that's a good thing. I'm going to focus on the good thing that, yes, this is going to be the final seasons of Scream Queens. Yes.

But now I can at least concentrate of giving it the full treatment. The holidays are always a difficult time for me. I'm on my own, I have to separate from my family and I can get weird.

So I don't want to make too many promises about the holiday season, but after New Year's I'm going to try to get back to a two show a month schedule.

I've got a lot of people lining up that want to do shows, some new people that I'm very excited about, people who I've always wanted to collaborate with. So I want to find places for them in the schedule, which I can't do with one show a month until June.

Also, there are frequent guests of the show, my favorite guests, you know, the regulars, people that I want to have one last show before we say goodbye. And I also want to revisit something that I started last season where I sat down with director Chris Moore.

I want to talk to independent queer filmmakers, have a little one on one sessions with them. Again, I can't do that during one show a month. So we're going to see how things go.

And the thing that's different now than what was different a couple of months ago is that I have really latched onto the fact that I feel better on days when I exercise. When I dedicate a couple of hours to exercise of any kind, it could be walking, swimming, going to the gym, whatever.

But I have to dedicate at least a couple of hours to exercise. Days that I exercise, I always feel great, I never feel fuzzy. Days that I don't is when the clouds start to come back. So I'm going to the gym.

We're exercising pretty much every day, so it is important that I dedicate a certain amount of time of my day every day to that so that I can get through the rest of my day. Of course, that cuts into podcasting time, so it's all going to be a juggling act for the next couple months, but I'm optimistic about this anyway.

And it's nice to be optimistic about something now. If you're wondering what was wrong with this episode because it sounded great, Patrick. It was so funny.

Well, the thing was, like I mentioned at the start of it that I hadn't recorded an episode since January. That was the what keeps you alive episode. That was a very difficult one to get through.

I had a couple breakdowns and the editing, I had to do a ton of editing to save it. So I was very self conscious about coming back in May to record this episode. And it was going fine until halfway through.

You might have noticed it was in that point in the episode where Derek's my phone is dying, I gotta change over to my PC. When we came back and the show continued, I didn't notice that Squadcast had stopped recording when Derek logged off.

It's not Derek's fault, It's my fault for not noticing. It's a glitch with Squadcast that I had only just started to figure out then. And I was still wrestling.

I was wrestling with a lot and I didn't notice. We recorded the whole second half of the show and then I realized, oh fuck, I have nothing. And John and Derek were great sports.

They said, let's do it again right now. And we did our best to recapture that magic.

And the thing is, I was very self conscious of now we're trying to capture recapture lightning in a bottle. You can't do it twice.

I was very aware of all the things, the great things that were gone forever and was very self conscious about it and very upset about it and just blaming myself for it. So I felt horrible by the time the session ended.

And because I didn't go right back into it, it just became like when you fall off horse supposed to get right back on. I didn't get right back on. And then over time the situation got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger in my mind.

So getting over this hurdle was a huge step. And the thing is that, like I said, shocking. When I logged on and started listening to it, I said, this episode's great.

You guys don't know what got lost. If I didn't say anything, you would wouldn't know about the great stuff you're ever going to hear. And that's fine, sometimes that's how it goes.

But I can't, I blame myself for that for too long and I'm not doing that anymore. So yay, let's get back to having fun on Scream Queens. You know what? I think that's about it. We've Been talking for a really long time.

I miss talking to apparently. But if you this is your first time here, I hope you had a great time. Please recommend the show to a friend.

If you didn't have a good time, recommend it to an enemy. If you want to get in touch with me, you could do that on Facebook. Facebook on Scream Queens and I'm on instagram @ scream queenspodcast.

And if you really, really, really like what you heard and you want to become a super screamer patron and help support the show, you can go to patreon.com screamqueens and for a monthly donation you get access to the two podcasts, the two full length podcasts that I workshopping right now for possible release in the future. And that's damn you Uncle Lewis, which is me, Trey Dean and Maya Murphy talking about Friday the 13th, the TV series.

And also it came from the 70s where I talk about made for TV monstrosities from the decade that we thought Sacrum was a vine man.

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Why yes you can.

As a matter of fact, you can make a one time donation and say Happy Holidays or thank you or off whatever you want to say to me by going to Bit ly joinsq Club. That's join Scream Queens Club sq. Get it? And there'll be tab there for one time donations and use it.

Podcasting is fabulous, but it's not free and every little bit helps and is greatly appreciated. Oh, so next time, remember how I said I want to do episodes and say goodbye to some of my favorite guests? You know, do one last project with them?

Well, next time it's the creepy kids girls, because what's the Christmas season without getting crazy with Cindy and Stacy? And we're going to be talking about the Canadian film Margot M A R G A U X. It's about an AI controlled house that wants to kill you.

It's completely bonkers and we're going to have a great time talking about it and you have a great time listening. Goddamn it. But that's next time. So go check that movie. I'll be ready for that party because it's going to get nuts. So until next time.

My beautiful, beautiful screamers continue to make the world a more fabulously creepy place. And you do that by following the scream queen's golden rule. Fight or flight. Survive the night, make it to the final reel. Stay safe, babies.

Stay healthy. And most of all, stay fabulous. Yeah. All of the music for tonight's show, unless otherwise specified, has been written by Sam Haynes.

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