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Okay, so we're on memches, so just we'll do a very quick hazara.

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So these are obviously all you know, interesting and difficult concepts with the, you know, when we're talking about the Bria like we've been talking about the last couple weeks, especially in the.

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In the sense of obviously their bonus sham is able to create anything in any way he wants.

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I'll do whatever.

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And nevertheless, their bone shalom decided to create the world in a way in some sort of form of teva.

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In a way that he created the world that, that there was going to be a horban, there was going to be a shvira and then there was going to be all matikan, which is we're going to start talking about tonight.

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So we were talking about last week when we started talking about first that there was this, like we've said this call upon a space.

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And then he found this way to create this or.

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And nevertheless, even with the or was very, very challenging and trying to interact with the R. And even.

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And for that or to come into the world there had to be calumnies for the.

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To contain that R. And the way he was started talking about it in what we started talking about last week is that in the way that the KM were set up, it was almost just like a ladder, one after another.

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But the problem is they weren't.

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They were all, so to speak, working independently.

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And each one of those kum, at least on the bottom seven, wanted to work in a way that they're containing everything.

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They're however much or there is, whatever that means.

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If we could quantify the amount of ore that was coming down that each one of those klem.

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So starting from each one of them was trying to hold all the, all the or even the or that was supposed to go into gvura, even the one that was supposed to go into ts.

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And obviously it didn't have the container that was able to hold it.

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It expanded until it busted.

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And then that's hence this idea of the.

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The shviras hakelum.

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And so tonight we're going to get into this idea of, of the olam atikan.

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But before we get there, so let's just start.

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I think we did this last paragraph, but just.

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And from there, just one other point is that from the shvira that ends up coming, there's two points.

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There's, there's, there's level of R really the kin themselves that fell and some of the R that kind of fell and that gives to the Clepas.

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Okay.

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And whole is to be makin to be mala those n sto what we said last week.

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The.

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It could be their mor.

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Whatever it is.

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It could be.

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You know, some s say that after the other maran that there were more that it added on which we'll talk about a little bit here.

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But either way, there was from there, from the nephila there were two types of clipas.

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There was what we call the klipos gimos to these are elements which are totally tra.

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The things which we.

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You know, there's no heter for.

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Typically there's a level of chuva if a person engages in it.

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But a person like we talking about the shaft feet lastly.

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And then there's a kas noga which is like the whole statean is focused on which is the gray areas and the gray area, meaning it's gray before you engage with it.

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But once you engage it becomes black or becomes white, so to speak.

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Either become leta or let's.

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So obviously we try to be engaged in that.

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Like shayna bia, all that kind of stuff to be fine.

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So now we're in page mem class.

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Let's just.

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We're going to start from the top just because in terms of understanding this and a quick hazara.

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So now touching up to the shvira and the purpose to a certain extent, at least simplistically so.

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Well, I said why do we need a shira?

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So the zak there, the rabonish did it.

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There was a kavana.

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The wanted there to be a shv.

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Why?

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Because we need to have.

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There needs to be.

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You know, even in the m farm we all talk about that.

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That you need to have free choice in order to say am I going.

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Going to go with Satov or am I going to go to.

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Am I going to get.

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Am I going to get punished?

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Because it's only.

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There's only sh.

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Free choice when.

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When there's good and bad and it's.

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You have to be able to decide in some way which one's the other.

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And you're only able to have b.

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Because there's a sh.

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There was no shira and the or was so.

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It was so clear.

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And through the sh.

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The tries to be mafat.

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It tries to be, you know, seduce a person for the.

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For the.

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And therefore you have bakhira.

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It's actually I. I always think about this.

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There's.

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It's.

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It's mashma this way In.

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In.

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In Shaykhudmuna and yahshuva.

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That.

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But there was a rashem I saw some many years ago.

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He says that living in this world and choosing to do mitzvahs and choosing to do the ratha no hashem is because we live in a world of amad shikra.

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So it's.

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But if so always got me thinking, well, if that's so, then, like, in some ways, there's no bachira the other way, meaning that if it's then how do you have the khira that to do good?

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The om ateva is.

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The om ateva is so strong, it's almost like pulling you not to do it.

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So.

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And I think my understanding from based on Tanya was as follows.

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It's true that the oma teva, that the hamshacha to draw you in to the tzaran to that stuff is stronger because we have an omatva.

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However, once a person is drawn to dabasha betusha, and if you give yourself even the opportunity a little bit, the.

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The koach, once you're drawn to it and you feel it is so much more potent.

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Meaning anyone knows, if you're osaken in Yanigashmi, it's so there's nothing.

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There's no, like, there's no base.

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There's no foundation.

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So, like, you don't feel it.

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How long does that satisfy?

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You know, think about anything that felt good on in the.

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Oh, my gosh.

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How long did that satisfaction last?

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Like, I remember Rabbi Zucker.

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He's a great thing.

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When guys were in Yeshiba and they used to go, I suppose that's the restaurant is papagayo.

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Papagayos, like one of those that was like, all you can eat in K. Like, whatever it is.

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And it's like they bring up meat and meat and meat and meat and meat.

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And I already heard people going, and on Friday night, I remember they went.

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And then they come back Thursday night for midnight seder.

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And he gives a schmooze Thursday night, he's like.

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And you go to the restaurant, he's like, you know what you get out of it?

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One big asher yatsa.

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It's like, you know, it gets you nothing in that.

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But the omarokni, it's.

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It's ain't so.

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It's ain't so.

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So like the hano that you get out of it, even though the getting to it is the taivas that are pulling you away from it are so much stronger.

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But once a person's.

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Oh, shaken it, it's everything.

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And that's why that's Eatsa people are struggling is you just run to a bas.

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Just give yourself, just give a little bit of exposure and you know it's the same nakuda.

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Fine.

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So either way.

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And that's why the svarm called the sh and a Medas.

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Okay, so the two types of aas and aas, so to speak.

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That you lost Madas, it's purposeful that it's almost like you wanted to lose it and then it's a something which you didn't want it to happen.

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So the sh, the Ra it was.

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He created this shira in order that there should be owner.

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So therefore it's called perish.

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What does that mean?

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The K were created with Kavanah in order just so they should be broken.

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Why?

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In order that should be lost.

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And they should fall within the kipa.

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Why?

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And there for us where they're going to be people we're going to be o entire lives to be which were lost and to be master them to the Shorash.

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And by doing this, your Mamish completing the Takhsa, the Bria.

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Meaning that the rabon created in a way with Midas that therefore you're able to be mal those to the Saratov.

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However.

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But let's say a person instead of being Malin and so says he's Osik.

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So he's.

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Let's say we'll call.

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Dies.

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It's not not only.

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It's not enough that you didn't be Maladon Yoser let Omeg mukama klipas.

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So you send those to a much deeper place.

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So there's two parts.

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I'm not sure exactly when it's which one, but one is either the Nitosan that are already there.

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You could send them to a much lower place, or you could be Mosif Nitotim, meaning it's not meaning there was the Rishpei hasnitosim.

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Then by mitzrayim there was.

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There was an aliyah to reach base.

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So there was only Pavov.

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There were only 86 left, like I said.

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So I think there's some trying to say that the Khat other Marishon they were already.

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He was already mostly sozim.

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Or maybe he was just mower them to a deeper place.

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But either way, if a person's not Osik in the right way, you could either make them deeper down in the klippa or you're going to be mosif Din insults into to the.

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To the.

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To the.

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And therefore these that fell through our because we weren't oing properly.

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Those are called avida sh because now that's adding the when they're adding the and you're putting them in a lower place.

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But the revolution didn't want that.

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That was for that was shuloma das.

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So therefore we call that an avida so to speak that which was lost to the klippa shalom adas.

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I I didn't have time to really out.

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There's a.

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There's a bunch of lumdis in the when you go to the sugyas in the in about Avedas and Medash Ramadas.

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So there's a bunch of I I I wanted to try to h out a little bit some of the longest of how the FF is.

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I just didn't get a chance to think about it.

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We try to think about it a little bit later and see if we come up with anything.

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So you know, the the keshe of oh my and oh my pimi is the ultimate kesha.

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So either way fine, let's go back to here now finishing this explanation.

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So Viato.

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He's saying we have this avoda, we have to be Malone which were there.

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And we said there are seven levels of these klems.

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So the 7k at least the 7 kilomet busted.

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Okay.

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And that's what gave the kalem to the and and the and the or the nizotzis to the tzaraklipa.

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So the question is how do we os?

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What does that mean?

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So we have to the avoda is connected each one of these KM meaning each one of these Midos.

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So the question is what is the avoda?

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How are we os in it one let's not ATV or what's not hara.

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So but we're just, we're just talking about really didn't mishmat pretty easy to up that the rab created the Amitya so to speak of creating where there was a shira, okay, where he broke these calumnies and that gave koach.

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It gave the r the nizotzim to the tzaraklifa to the tzara.

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And it was all look, it was all the kavana.

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The roshan did it on purpose in order that there should be bachira.

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So there should be okay.

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And our voda is to be osik and all these things.

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Let's not to be maladam.

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And if we're all sake in these inyani gashmi or any of these gray areas the ways to be mahaling not with Salatov we do it for Gashmius and, you know, our own taibas and things like that.

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We not only are not doing what we're supposed to, we could add to the klippas to the need to go.

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Or we could send them kind of like deeper because there's a muscle.

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We'll speak later in a second.

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You know, maybe I'll even say right now.

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He.

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He says.

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He actually says, amazing, Marshall.

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If you look on, I'm gonna go through the whole thing.

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But on Nunhe, if you look on the bottom.

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The bottom here is great, Michelle.

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I mean, my sim and stuff.

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Amazing.

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So he has.

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If you see not when he goes through the Aveda Madas.

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This whole piece on design on the bottom starting is amazing.

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But if you got n. Hey, read that whole story last week about Shem.

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He has it all written.

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It's amazing.

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It's very special.

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Which are the two ashore, you mean?

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Yeah, yeah, that's where I said it from.

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Yeah.

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So.

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But he has a great mushle here on Medas that on the bottom of Nunhe.

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So he brings.

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He says to the melech that he has like his servant, that he really wants to give something to.

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He wants to reward him.

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Okay.

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But he doesn't just wear on water and he'll feel like a Nebuchadne.

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The king's just giving me stuff.

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So he says, let's go.

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Let's go for a walk out into the forest.

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And then they're.

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Oh, my God, I lost my.

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My ring.

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That's like my.

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The one that stamps everything, like the seal, the.

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You know, the king seal.

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And he says, it's so important.

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Please find it.

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Please find it.

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And basically, obviously, if you find it, then you're going to get lots of reward.

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But, like, you know, and it wouldn't feel like.

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Like, you know, by.

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By pesa.

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So he says, there are two types.

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He said, you could have this friend who's a pk.

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He realizes something like this fell.

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You don't have to like, dig 10ft under their dirt to find it.

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It fell off his finger.

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It's gonna be somewhere on the surface.

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Let me tread slowly, carefully.

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And I'm gonna find it somewhere on the surface.

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And I'm not gonna get dirty.

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I'm not gonna think.

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And I'll find it.

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And then he says, I'll be able to wash it off.

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He's very precious.

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I'll give it to him and the king will be happy, he says, or you have the shaita.

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So what does he do?

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He's like stumbling around feet like Making a whole mess and everything what ends up happening.

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This ring ends up falling much deeper into a much, much deeper place.

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And then obviously he can't find it.

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And then he comes in front of the king, you know, I'm sorry, you know, I couldn't find it.

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Not only could he not find it, he's covered in dirt, he looks disgusting and it's a mess.

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So he says it's.

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It's the same shot.

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He says that it's the mushle of a Yid he's always taken in yanikadush.

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And he realizes that the rabbonishkom kind of set him up.

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He wants to be osik in these things, the rabban hashem, you want these things, but you're osik in a certain way.

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The rabbon hashem gives you all the reward.

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But he says, but it's the opposite.

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If you love the.

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The oh my goshmi and you love all this stuff and it's just a taa and you love all these things, what's going to happen?

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You're going to literally just be covered in these and be just adding to nim of to the.

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To the.

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And you're going to be disgusting and you're going to go in front of their bon.

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Not only are you not going to get the reward, your mamish, you're going to make it that the king can never get his.

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His.

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He's never going to be able to get his.

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His signet his.

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His ring back.

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That's the.

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The mashall they get.

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So either way, fine.

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So now he's going to explain, like you said, these, the.

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The midos, these seven midos and how to be oing them.

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You know what the meters are.

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So these are the names of the calum of the sphere, of the spheres.

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So in terms of that vote of what each one of these spheres we're going to talk about later on in the safer.

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But from these kim, from these spheres, from these seven km a nimsha, they're drawn down seven midas.

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Okay, so what are the midos?

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Ava, ira, hispuroshas.

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Okay, so each one of them, it's not exactly the same, but they're basically the same as these k. So the question is, what are the avoda of each one of them?

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And how do we.

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What are the.

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You have to use these avodas, these middles, and not to the tzara.

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Okay, fine.

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And everything obviously is subjective meaning, like, you know, so it could be the way one person uses the middle of hasid is completely different than another person.

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Each person.

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Fine.

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So let's see.

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So first starting with.

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Okay, so which is so.

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So why was obviously kindness.

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That was Nashim.

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I am base.

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And so there should be a midas of Ava in the world.

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What does that mean?

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You should love everything the revolution wants to do to Torah mitzvahs, the hu.

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But not just to love it, but to love it.

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Okay.

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That's why by nasusfar, I think what I'm sure you say Abaraba on Shabbos.

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Yeah, that's the most.

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We most regular.

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Most of them don't have that.

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But any of the most.

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Most.

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The regular articles has.

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No, no.

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So any of those.

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Any of the sidurim that have more of a penimious that have any sort of whatever.

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I'm sure my.

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Yeah, the chocolates Yeshua, they go abaraba and Shabbos.

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Like some.

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Like my Nash is avaraba and Avasolam.

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But on Shabbos you do abaraba first and then avasolam.

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During the week you do avasolam first.

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These avarab is on a higher level or the altar ever already talks about these khulu computer.

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But either way.

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But it's avaraba penetrates taking over in such a deep way.

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So what happens in itsots Try to get you, try to get you, seduce you to love things which are devaram, Shu makora, Ava.

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So a person now has a choice.

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They have the bahira.

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Do I want to love the Rabban shaman Torah, which is the makora of Ava, Olivkola of Dvaram Gashmim Roy, metanuge olam, haze Shahu kalam and the Sodom.

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So this stuff, like we said, it's all going to be asha yatsar and then it's all.

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It's all going to be.

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It's all going to be gone.

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But obviously what makes it so challenging is that the Rabosham created mitziya.

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It's not just that there's a pitoy that there's a.

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That it could be mafantas, but it also created a mitziyas where you have to engage in these things.

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So it makes it nachal level challenging.

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You have to.

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And once you have to do it, you Mamish have to be Kaddish.

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And every person has another level.

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You know, if you try to be a complete porish, that's not the right level either.

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Like I told him, even like Rabbi Zuko and Sadiqim, there's a way to Be oh SEK in nabot.

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That's why tzadikim hasidim kadishayims and witisuda.

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And we're not.

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We're not polishing, we're osik in it and we're bimodges.

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We're doing this.

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So which is.

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It's just.

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I'm sure people have heard this var.

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Just if you look in Kafalov, just a very, very probably one of the most famous hasida chittoras out there.

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It's something quote this all the time.

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But the Balshantu says that in the parsha of Gili Arias that at the end of the end of the parasha it says if a person takes a sister, it's.

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What does that mean?

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And the posse.

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What does that mean?

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You take your sister and your osik and gil rises.

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So the B famously says why?

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He says, because every mida anything could be used for the sa to.

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What's the.

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It's that you're so chummy chummy with everyone, you know, that you could break down.

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I want to be nice.

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I don't want.

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You know what you're going to end up being Osak in gil ar.

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That's that.

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That's the clip of.

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Which is a clip of.

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Nowadays you have to be so nice to everyone.

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So politically correct.

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That's.

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You know, when we have people over, like where you're sitting at the sudo, you're on that side of the table.

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We're on this side of the table.

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No one.

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Like I'm not saying you have to.

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Obviously every person has to know their point.

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But like, you know, that's.

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You don't.

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There's a point of niceness and there's a point of you have to have certain boundaries and you have to have the dharm.

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So either way, whatever the manifestation of that would look like, each person has to know for themselves.

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Fine.

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So that's what's a.

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What about for Agvura?

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She meet this Ayira nivra kadalya as hashemi spark.

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What does that mean?

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So there's two levels of year up.

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But yira tata, what does that mean?

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So the first level, the lower level of onish of year, of year is that you're afraid if you do something wrong, you're going to get tremendous punishment.

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Their abboshem is going to punish you.

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Because godless of how great their rabonish home is.

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Begin the E. W. Ravishola Kara Vishoresha the kola alma.

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The rabonish home is everything.

Speaker A:

The whole world.

Speaker A:

And this also gives you kawach because the hiskabras, the string to go against the Itzahara which is going to try to be mafat to you.

Speaker A:

What is the shvira like a joke.

Speaker A:

You use the meat meaning.

Speaker A:

And that's why he says that a person.

Speaker A:

He says like even when Khazal tell us that you know, that you know that even a baby, the animals won't go near a live baby.

Speaker A:

But once you become dead, it's, you know, even Ogabashan could be a monster.

Speaker A:

Like he's huge.

Speaker A:

The second he fell on the floor and he was dead, even a little, little mouse is not going to be scared of him.

Speaker A:

He says, why?

Speaker A:

Because if we're, if we're living with Chu Kavura, we're not going to have Kvura.

Speaker A:

It's not going to be a pahad of devaram Gashmi of animals will be strong when we're able to.

Speaker A:

There's only one year.

Speaker A:

Obviously, you know, we're living in Goa so we have to, you know, not saying that person should go to the zoo and stand in the lion cage and you know, whatever, but either way I will say just one really quick my side.

Speaker A:

There's a Rabbi Ojiro Bakur.

Speaker A:

He was there when you were there and he had a lot of difficulties in his life and he became very closer to Dan Segal.

Speaker A:

So basically one of the other Dan Sagal is quite the sadhg and he said amazing thing we're.

Speaker A:

He came in whatever I had to fly back there.

Speaker A:

My family flew back there to solo the Rebakko one time and he was telling me how he was scared of flying Rebakko he didn't like flying.

Speaker A:

And he said how did he get over the fear of flying?

Speaker A:

He said when he got very close to Dan Segal he said that Rav Dan Sehgal it doesn't matter what he's doing in life is not going to have a different reaction to anything.

Speaker A:

Doesn't matter how scary the scenario.

Speaker A:

And he said he thought, imagine if Dan Sehgal was on a plane and the plane was Mamish Rahman al Son going down, gonna crash.

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Would not react anymore to when the plane is Mamish going down.

Speaker A:

Tono was just flying.

Speaker A:

He would be the same Khan even Keel nothing would react because they're about.

Speaker A:

And he's like, I'm so.

Speaker A:

He's like, I spent so much time with Don Sego.

Speaker A:

He's like, how's it Shyek that I could spend time with him?

Speaker A:

And I'm gonna have a pakad of just flying even when things are okay.

Speaker A:

He's like.

Speaker A:

And I just.

Speaker A:

He's like, I have to deal with it.

Speaker A:

And he's like, I got over it.

Speaker A:

But like, that.

Speaker A:

That idea of like, there's no Pakha, there's anything.

Speaker A:

It's obviously he's on a hekhardargar of dan saga, but that's the avoda that we're trying to.

Speaker A:

To get to fine.

Speaker A:

What does that mean?

Speaker A:

To beautify, to create a wonder, so to speak, on the.

Speaker A:

And how beautiful the mitzvahs and Torah is.

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Okay.

Speaker A:

And so positive of that.

Speaker A:

The kaisro is one that they.

Speaker A:

They become beautified.

Speaker A:

But it's more that kaisro makes me beautiful that it makes everything that Rabon shalom does being Torah mitzvah is beautiful.

Speaker A:

So you're.

Speaker A:

You.

Speaker A:

We focus so much on making things which are either usr or things which have nothing to do with Torah mitzvah's beautiful.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

I'm sure a person could use imagination on how they manifest itself nowadays in these types of areas.

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Myself included, unfortunately.

Speaker A:

What about the meat Savnatsavra Kadira, Netzach.

Speaker A:

We're going through just the different midas that represent the different kalem that were broke and how you can use them for the Sarah Tova, the tsara radio.

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So he went through.

Speaker A:

We're about to start Netzach.

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Okay.

Speaker A:

So it should give a person the ability, so to speak, to be menace, to be victorious over the.

Speaker A:

Over the Yitzer.

Speaker A:

So not only do we now not have the ability to overcome the Yates, there's.

Speaker A:

And to stay consistent in going against him, but it's the opposite.

Speaker A:

We have the nitsachon to the rasochon because to do nitzachon against the Kochatav almost to be.

Speaker A:

It's not only do we do we fall and we mess up, but it's almost like we have to reinforce it.

Speaker A:

We have to like back it up.

Speaker A:

Almost as if this is like the Spitz and to make it as ways that this is what we're always going to do to back up these ways of the Tara and to do nakama.

Speaker A:

What is the idea?

Speaker A:

What's the middle of nakama?

Speaker A:

You're getting revenge.

Speaker A:

You're almost.

Speaker A:

It's not only that you're doing something bad, you're like highlighting that someone did something bad.

Speaker A:

I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm kind of engaging in it in a deeper level to kind of go back on the Sarah.

Speaker A:

So it's still through here.

Speaker A:

It's not only that you're engaging in the Sarah, but you're almost putting up ways that.

Speaker A:

To like reinforcing it that I do it over and over and over in a.

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In a.

Speaker A:

In a.

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In a Malcolm of Nitsakhon, so to speak.

Speaker A:

What is Hod Niver Kadel hodos rashemis por rahal.

Speaker A:

That there should be a level of hilo and sh.

Speaker A:

And obviously there's.

Speaker A:

There's certain similarities between hod and tus which will be.

Speaker A:

Will be magdir a little bit later in the safer.

Speaker A:

But and to braze.

Speaker A:

I mean, this Very, very easy to see how this presents itself nowadays with, you know, all the famous people and athletes and the.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Not so challenging to understand this.

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What about how you sowed?

Speaker A:

Okay, that's obviously the makama mila.

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That's the.

Speaker A:

To be the mashpia.

Speaker A:

So that means the ultimate connection.

Speaker A:

So we could be the rabanoshon.

Speaker A:

We could be.

Speaker A:

Like the mission on AVO says that our house should be a bisvad.

Speaker A:

Not only do we not want to connect and be dubbed to the tzadikim, we want to be David to the reshoimsha after the typhus Alif.

Speaker A:

And that there's a Devikas to that thing that there was.

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What's the.

Speaker A:

The Torah, the famous Torah from of Hutner.

Speaker A:

What's the line about the hero?

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Anyone see this?

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It's.

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What he said.

Speaker A:

He says an amazing thing.

Speaker A:

He could say amazing thing.

Speaker A:

He says, you, mama should have someone he could be holding in ganshas.

Speaker A:

Then you got someone who's a complete amarant.

Speaker A:

Okay?

Speaker A:

So he says that the plastic says based on the way people.

Speaker A:

People are praising someone the same st. That means he's like k. People are.

Speaker A:

You know, people are praising him for his Yiddish.

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The st.

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He's a.

Speaker A:

And he's a good person.

Speaker A:

And people are not mahalo him.

Speaker A:

He's probably not.

Speaker A:

He says, that's not up Shop says, no, we don't care about that.

Speaker A:

He says, you want to see the essence of a person?

Speaker A:

Look at what he's Mahalo.

Speaker A:

Huh?

Speaker A:

How do they praise other people?

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

So he says the amazing thing.

Speaker A:

He's like, you could Mamish have someone who's holding a gan shaft?

Speaker A:

Look, lahavdiyo, when a famous person, a very wealthy person, important politician walks in his room, stands up, running after him.

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Obviously there's an avoda.

Speaker A:

We have to do that.

Speaker A:

We see it said, he can do this.

Speaker A:

Whatever you have to be, you know, have a car.

Speaker A:

So to overdo our ashtad at a certain time.

Speaker A:

But you see that he's like.

Speaker A:

And then you'll see someone who's a complete amar.

Speaker A:

He knows nothing.

Speaker A:

But who's he?

Speaker A:

Mahalo, the tadikim, the tamideham, the hashi people.

Speaker A:

He's like, you want to know who's the real sadiq?

Speaker A:

He's like, that person is the real sade.

Speaker A:

He says it's.

Speaker A:

It's good before Purim to learn.

Speaker A:

And it's.

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker A:

He has this in the.

Speaker A:

Within the shtick on late sonnets.

Speaker A:

So it's like late takas, Amalik and whatever.

Speaker A:

Yeah, either way.

Speaker A:

What about.

Speaker A:

So the idea of is that the rabban shall be the melech on everything about you, all your limbs, your sinews, your so on and so forth.

Speaker A:

Your whole body, everything.

Speaker A:

Should be the melon.

Speaker A:

Every aspect, your thoughts, your speaks, your actions.

Speaker A:

It's the opposite that the tai that becomes the mel over you, That your whole body not only does it not does.

Speaker A:

Is it not subservient to the rotten of hashem.

Speaker A:

It's always just about more and more taiva, more and more taiva, which is, you know, also very easy to imagine how this happens and to see us nowadays, fine.

Speaker A:

When a person is misor any of these mitos to the tzara, all of riida, shize hu koachanitzos, hanishkach.

Speaker A:

The fact that a person.

Speaker A:

If a person is able to take a step back and have a level of Cheshire and realize I'm having an.

Speaker A:

I saw you in one of these areas.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I'm having thoughts of this and that and one of these middles to the tzara.

Speaker A:

You should realize that this is sent for you from Shamayim to what the Hagufa to do a tikka in these areas.

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Okay.

Speaker A:

It's not a.

Speaker A:

It's not a.

Speaker A:

It's any soyum, but it's not a bad thing.

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker A:

It's almost obviously like the altar Rebbe says in Tanya when he says, when a person has nissionos and struggles.

Speaker A:

And he says, why do I have this?

Speaker A:

You know, because the whole point of Tanya is that you have the.

Speaker A:

Which are fighting.

Speaker A:

And you could almost get a little like, why have the.

Speaker A:

Which is being a scaber.

Speaker A:

And he says, why are you such a.

Speaker A:

Such a ba that you think that you shouldn't have this?

Speaker A:

He's like, you're such a ba.

Speaker A:

You shouldn't have it.

Speaker A:

Yeah, this is your.

Speaker A:

You're supposed to.

Speaker A:

This is this.

Speaker A:

So it's where.

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Where.

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Where.

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B.

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But it's not a bad.

Speaker A:

It's what.

Speaker A:

Sorry.

Speaker A:

No, he also says like it brings you higher.

Speaker A:

It brings you higher.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

It allows you to reach a much higher place.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

The like the mak.

Speaker A:

It's a similar thing.

Speaker A:

So he says that it's.

Speaker A:

But when a person has this.

Speaker A:

It's literally.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And it's really.

Speaker A:

And to add in the famous.

Speaker A:

From the.

Speaker A:

From the Bashamtov that when the Ba Shamtov.

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Whatever he would.

Speaker A:

His whole thing is anything a person sees in their life, it's, you know, it was for a message or it's.

Speaker A:

It's magala.

Speaker A:

Something about you.

Speaker A:

If you're.

Speaker A:

He used to say if you're seeing someone who's Mahal Shabas, okay.

Speaker A:

Obviously we don't want the person to be Mahabal Shabbos.

Speaker A:

It's magalis and Indian about you in terms of the way you are.

Speaker A:

We have to be careful with these types of things nowadays.

Speaker A:

You know, we're not, you know, we're not about shuttle.

Speaker A:

But a Mesa person could take a certain lessons that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

It's not to say that, but maybe.

Speaker A:

Okay, maybe like if I'm.

Speaker A:

For some reason I'm around this.

Speaker A:

You could say it.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

You could say like, oh my God, this disgusting.

Speaker A:

The avoda of like saying that.

Speaker A:

This disgusting.

Speaker A:

That's not what the.

Speaker A:

That.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

I'm in this makam.

Speaker A:

How could I make this better every single year Pesach.

Speaker A:

I remember when I got married and my in laws then they go to a program.

Speaker A:

So not saying that.

Speaker A:

That's the makam, Tommy.

Speaker A:

But you know, but it was definitely challenging for me at times.

Speaker A:

But every time I'd be like.

Speaker A:

My Ruby would say to me, I know especially they're very, very modern programs.

Speaker A:

Everybody would always say they could be like.

Speaker A:

Like you're the Shriya.

Speaker A:

He's like, you sit in the lobby, you have your stack of Hasida.

Speaker A:

She's farm.

Speaker A:

You sit there, people see someone or other people are going to the pool.

Speaker A:

There's someone sitting there dressed in big day Shabbos, Big day Yantif.

Speaker A:

And he's going to farm.

Speaker A:

He's like.

Speaker A:

He's like.

Speaker A:

I'm telling you, he's like, there are going to be people who come to talk to you, I promise you.

Speaker A:

And yeah, that always happens.

Speaker A:

I'm not saying I'm such a, you know, whatever.

Speaker A:

But I'm saying that's the.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's double.

Speaker A:

That's how we have to think about every.

Speaker A:

An area of your life.

Speaker A:

We you know, we.

Speaker A:

We have the what?

Speaker A:

Yeah, every program I was on, They told me you was the mashka.

Speaker A:

You have the mashkiel.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

That happens if you're hanging out in the kitchen.

Speaker A:

He's trying to be mad and he tells him over there.

Speaker A:

So fine, either way.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

Let's say rahman al son.

Speaker A:

A person is niksha, and they end up.

Speaker A:

And he falls and he stumbles and he is more than.

Speaker A:

It's also to a deeper place or like we spoke about earlier, he's most of the tzotzim in a way.

Speaker A:

That's when you need to strengthen, you need to become.

Speaker A:

You need to be mascabra.

Speaker A:

To what?

Speaker A:

To do a hekhara level of chuva and in why?

Speaker A:

And by.

Speaker A:

Through chuva, like you said, avada, it's a very, very challenging thing.

Speaker A:

And the voda of chuva is much harder than doing it with.

Speaker A:

If a person does do chuva, we know that through chuva, you're able to turn it around.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, even.

Speaker A:

Especially chuva mava, even while that's at the person, that's on the person.

Speaker A:

But even on the.

Speaker A:

The impact, so to speak, of what you did.

Speaker A:

And being Moses or Mosem, a person could be mahsaret.

Speaker A:

So what's the beginning of chuva?

Speaker A:

Okay, it's two.

Speaker A:

Two avenues, specifically Torah and Shabbos.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

He doesn't explain this so much, but we could.

Speaker A:

We could try to give a little bit of a hesper.

Speaker A:

It's not the only way, but the starting way or the easiest way, so to speak, to be Maladin y tulsan that we're lost is Dafka through Torah and Shabbos.

Speaker A:

To bring the Gulash.

Speaker A:

So the question is, what's the shot?

Speaker A:

So we're getting a lot of different Shadim.

Speaker A:

He has a couple of different stuff over here.

Speaker A:

But first of all, Torah obviously is going to be the easiest because like we spoke about, what is Torah?

Speaker A:

Torah is the Rabonishkalam, so to speak.

Speaker A:

That's Masam Sim himself.

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He.

Speaker A:

He's contracting himself down here.

Speaker A:

So when we're Mamish d to.

Speaker A:

We're d to Torah and we're able to be Mascaba.

Speaker A:

We're connecting to the makor of all of this.

Speaker A:

That's going to be the easiest way to be mala anything back to the makor.

Speaker A:

So Shabbos in, in, in.

Speaker A:

In a lot of ways also that the aura of Shabbos is.

Speaker A:

Is the aura which is really from the.

Speaker A:

The beginning of the bria if we want to try to break any sort of the.

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The hole, the shlita, the that.

Speaker A:

The.

Speaker A:

That the Sara has and to be Mavato that we're going to try to go to that or which was there from the beginning.

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The.

Speaker A:

You know, that which is the or which is in the base Ganache, so to speak.

Speaker A:

Like, we know.

Speaker A:

Tell us so this is the shore.

Speaker A:

And that's why we know every week if a person doesn't.

Speaker A:

And at least I. I could say, you know, not that isn't a bad thing.

Speaker A:

Like even like this past Shabbat, like, it wasn't a regular Shabbos for me.

Speaker A:

I thought my wife had a workshop to be in a hotel.

Speaker A:

It was totally fine.

Speaker A:

It was a nice atmosphere.

Speaker A:

It's farm around.

Speaker A:

I was in.

Speaker A:

I was in that hotel with all farm, but I worked.

Speaker A:

But like, you don't have your Shabbos that you want.

Speaker A:

It's very, very hard to go through the week because when you're going to the.

Speaker A:

Into the olama Gashmi, you're going in this, you need to have.

Speaker A:

You need to be connected to the makor, you need to have a gili of a certain art.

Speaker A:

And that's why in some ways we're always working towards Shabbos like Shammai of us.

Speaker A:

But at the same time, Shabbos is also the makor for the whole week we bench with Chodesh on Shabbos because the bracha for the whole week, the bracha for the whole month always has to start from Shabbos.

Speaker A:

So if Rahman Otzant is ever sort of.

Speaker A:

And any sort of Yurida that we need to be Mahabas, which is that.

Speaker A:

That or so to speak, that Ava Rabo, or connecting the reboot in the deepest way, that's going to be the easiest way to.

Speaker A:

Or one of the easiest ways to start reaching that.

Speaker A:

That Aliyah.

Speaker A:

Okay, I think we'll stop here.

Speaker A:

We'll start with the Omatika next week and this starts to really start flowing.

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