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Focusing Your Energy with Annual Profections with Guest Robin Langford
Episode 3815th July 2024 • Wealth Witches • Katelyn Magnuson
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In this episode of the Wealth Witches Podcast, host Katelyn Magnuson is joined by the insightful Robin Langford, a Fate and Free Will coach who blends historical knowledge with astrological expertise. The conversation centers around the concept of annual profections, a powerful timing technique that helps you focus your energy and strategically plan your year.

Robin provides an in-depth explanation of the 12 houses in astrology and how each house influences different aspects of your life and business. She highlights the significance of specific houses for entrepreneurs, particularly the 10th, 12th, 1st, and 2nd houses, and shares real-life examples of how understanding these houses can lead to better business decisions and personal growth.

Katelyn and Robin also discuss the importance of recognizing patterns in astrology, using predictive astrology to anticipate challenges and opportunities, and practical tips for integrating these insights into your everyday planning. Whether you're an astrology enthusiast or new to the concept, this episode offers valuable guidance on leveraging cosmic energies for holistic success.

Key Takeaways

  • Understanding the concept of annual profections and how it can guide your focus each year.
  • How to determine your current profection year and what it signifies.
  • The importance of specific houses for entrepreneurs and how they impact business strategies.
  • Real-life examples of how Robin and Katelyn have used annual profections to make informed decisions.
  • Practical tips for integrating astrology into your daily and business planning.

Guest Bio:

Robin Langford of Wicked Veracity is a Fate & Free Will coach who blends practical astrology with contemporary mindset coaching to help entrepreneurs leverage their unique strengths, navigate challenges, and strategically plan their lives and businesses. 

Connect with Robin:

Instagram: @wicked.veracity

Program: wicked.veracity.com/crusade

Podcast: https://www.wickedveracity.com/podcast

Resource: Annual Profection Houses

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Hello, and welcome magical creatures to the Wealth Witches podcast.

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This is a place where we brew up financial empowerment and mix in a little

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sprinkle of magic. I'm Caitlin Magnuson, your guide on this

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enchanted journey to financial enlightenment. Here, we honor all

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identities and invoke our inner witches to create holistic wealth and prosperity.

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So grab your crystals, open your minds, and let's get ready to conjure some

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financial clarity clarity.

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Hi. Welcome back to Wealth Witches. I'm your host, Caitlin Magnuson.

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And today, we have Robin Langford, and I am so

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excited to have her here. Robin is a fate and free will coach who

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blends practical astrology with contemporary mindset coaching to help

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entrepreneurs leverage their unique strengths, navigate challenges, and

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strategically plan their lives and businesses. Robin, you have

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a lot more experience than just, you know, this

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bio really lays out. Can you tell everyone that's listening a little bit

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more about, you know, your background and who you are?

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Yes. I am a neurodivergent

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witch, which is appropriate for this

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particular podcast. I have an

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undergraduate degree in history, so I am a trained historian and researcher. I have

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a master's degree in curriculum and instruction, which means I'm

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a really, really good at explaining things.

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And I have been in education I was I've been in education

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broadly for about 20 years. I have been an entrepreneur for

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15 years, and I have been working with astrology, the traditional Hellenistic

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predictive astrology that I use with my clients for about a decade now.

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It's quite a lot of experience. It is. And that's the nutshell

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version. Yes. No. Not the extended yeah.

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Very, very long version of the or it could be. I have found

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your gift and your insight to be really invaluable, and I'm so

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excited for you to drop a little bit of that knowledge with all of the

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listeners today. And today, we're gonna be talking about annual perfections

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for figuring out where your focus should be. The great thing about this when

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you and I were chatting topics is this makes it really easy for, you know,

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anyone that's listening because you only need to know your age

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for this to be something that you can actually utilize and put into play. Can

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you tell us a little bit more about, the topic that we're going to be

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covering today, Robin? Sure. The reason that I love annual perfection

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so much is because it is one of the most powerful timing techniques that lets

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us know if I do have a birth chart, like, what's gonna be the most

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active and what's gonna be most likely to be happening. But even if I don't,

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it's an a powerful astrology technique that can be used by

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literally anybody. And like you said, they only have to know their their age.

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And do you wanna tell you how kind of how it works real quick? Mhmm.

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So in astrology, there are 12 houses and those 12 houses cover

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all of the people and topics, of an individual's life.

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And the criticism that people have of astrology frequently is

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how can every how how can everything be

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shown in one chart. Right? Like one little map. And it's

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because not everything is active at any given time

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and this is one of the ways that we know what is active and what's

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gonna be the most important in the natal chart, but also what's gonna be the

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most important in the where the planets are in at any good

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event at any given moment.

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And, and so first house is

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always you as a person. It is the only house in the

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entire chart that just has to do with the individual. The second

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house is how you make money. That's one that most of my entrepreneurs

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love. The 3rd house is communication. It tends to be

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things for I'm gonna speak specifically to entrepreneurs and business owners because that's

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just who I work with the most. But so I want people to recognize that

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it also has to do with about 20 to a 100 other topics,

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but I'm talking specifically about the ones that are applicable to entrepreneurs in

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general. 3rd house tends to be, like, emails, podcasts, correspondences,

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that sort of thing. 4th house is family and home, so your home environment.

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This was very important for a lot of my work at home or work from

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home or work remotely people. 5th is

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pleasure. It's all of the fun things. It's,

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children, romance, that type of thing. 6th house is your systems.

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It's also what you feel responsible to and your health,

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and pets interestingly enough which a lot of entrepreneurs didn't have.

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7th house is your partner and that can be business partner or

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your romantic partner and also open enemies and

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lawsuits. 8th house is taxes and we've talked about

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this one a lot. It's taxes, it's bookkeeping, it's estate planning, it's your

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partner's money, it's money that you make indirectly, so like affiliate sales

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or, that sort of thing, or royalties. So a lot of

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my people also have books published and royalties tend to fall in there.

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9th house is everything that expands your mind, higher education, religion,

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philosophy, and foreign travel, one of your

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favorites. 12, 10th house is

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your public reputation and how you deal with authority and often it

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can be like the direction your business is going. For entrepreneurs, it can be a

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little bit different for people who have straight jobs. 11th

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house is networks, masterminds, social

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media, how you, and, like,

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the thing I always wanna say is friends with benefits, which, you know, but I

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actually need friends with influence. And then 12th house is self sabotage,

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hidden enemies. So that can sometimes be, like,

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malicious gossip for entrepreneurs, and needing

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a lot more downtime. And the way that I use the house is beyond

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annual annual perfections is it it makes it really clear, like, there are some times

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when hustle's a great thing and it's indicated

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by transit, which you know because you're in a hustle period.

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And and there's sometimes it's like, no, you need to sit down and not do

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anything or do the bare minimum just to stay afloat, but, like, give your body

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time to rest and relax. And the perfections tell us that. So each one

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of those things that I just described is an area of life that can you

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can tell when it's being activated by your age and that just tells you

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your general theme for the entire year just by knowing your age

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and that's annual projections. Fantastic.

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Yeah. I know. That, I feel like

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some of the friends with benefits make total sense to me because I think of

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it a little bit grander than just the, I think, linear

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definition of it, but, that's fantastic. So where do

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we start if I'm wanting to find out, you know, what my annual perfection

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is for the year? So, you know, I just realized that they will need I'm

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gonna give you a one page chart so that that they'll look like

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can I share my screen with you real quick? Of course. So I have a

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I have a workbook that I've I've created for my members, and I'm just gonna

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pull one page out of it for you. And they can just look at their,

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so what what we're looking at on the screen right now, if you're not watching,

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is a circle chart that's laid out like an astrology chart and it

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has the age, and the house

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number for each of the perfections and

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it starts over. So you go in the 1st year, when you're

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born from ages 0 to 1, you're in a first house perfection. From ages 1

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to 2, you're in a second house perfection and so on. And it repeats when

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you turn 12, 24, 36, 48, 60.

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Like, that's when you get a brand new start. And so this one page also

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tells you a very brief very brief

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keywords for each house. So that's all anybody needs to know what their theme is

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for the year, and it'll just be that one page. Perfect.

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Yeah. Yeah. No. That's awesome. So we'll make sure that we link that in here.

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But, also, if you're listening to this, we will eventually be putting the video

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recording of this up online. So make sure to check back for updated show

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notes because it may be there. Yeah. Well, the yeah. You can just put

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in there and let them download it. I'll just We'll put yeah. We'll we'll link

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this in here, but if anyone's wanting to see anything that is shared yeah. Yeah.

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And so this just makes it really easy. And people

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actually, can we talk about your chart? Is that okay? Okay. So you

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went from a 9th house to a 10th house perfection since we've been working together.

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And why don't you tell them your experience of how crazy you thought I was?

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Oh my god. So, yeah, I I started my 10th house perfection in

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May. And prior to that, Robin and I have been working together in February.

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And Robin's like, you're not gonna be taking a lot of vacations this summer. Right?

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I was like, no. But I really don't wanna be working. I'm really tired. She's

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like, no. No. You're gonna wanna be you're gonna wanna be doing a

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lot of the things this summer. I was like, you're okay. No. I

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really don't, but sure. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna hold this space for anything

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being possible. And then sure shit

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without fail come this summer, I was like, oh, I do

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wanna do the things. I do have all of these, like, creative ideas and

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changes in the business and changes in how I'm interacting with

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the business that I want to be making. And she was like, did you doubt

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me? I didn't I didn't doubt. I just didn't think it was

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gonna be quite this much of a 180. So, yes, that's been my

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very short summary experience of what the first three months of my

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10th house production. Isn't that wild that how much you've gotten done in

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that area in just those 3 months? And, I mean, it was amplified for you

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because of other things that are happening like the retrograde.

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But that's the power of annual perfections and, like, being

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able to plan your year knowing that's just where your focus is gonna be.

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And it doesn't mean that you're not gonna be traveling because I know that you

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are, but not not during this particular shift,

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which I love. So, and that's for anybody who's listening. If

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you are probably not 9, but if you're 21, 33, 45, 57,

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or 69, you're also in a 10th house perfection. I'm I

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am 45. I I'm also in a 10th house perfection and it

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has been wild. And so and that's the

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beauty of it. They're like, you know nothing about astrology and how easy is that?

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Yeah. No. It it's it's it's been

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wild, I think, to say the least at the the 180 that I

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did. I did not think I was gonna be working or not even

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working this much, making this much forward progress. Yeah.

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And I think that was the distinction that I was hung up on that you

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were like, it doesn't necessarily mean you're working more hours. Yeah. But

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we're we're changing things and work and the business is a

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large focus, which it has been. Yeah. And for 10th house,

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specifically, it does tend to be because all of the houses, you go through them

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at once every 12 years. And so it's it tends to be a defining

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a defining year for that area and you you making big

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changes that you'll be working with for the next

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12 years. Right? And that's for sure been

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my experience every single time. I'm like, wow. And I

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know astrology really well and I'm still like, So that's how that's how that played

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out. Alright. Well, that's fine.

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That tracks. Yeah. But just being able to plan. So, like, I knew and you

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knew going in kind of how to plan for

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your summer. Right? Like, you didn't you didn't plan a

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whole bunch of, quote, unquote, fun things, but I think you've still been having

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fun. No. Quite a bit of fun, but nothing that's gonna take me out of

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the game, so to speak, for more than, like, a few days at a time

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kind of a thing. I think that that is naturally kind

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of what I leaned towards doing most of the summer anyways, but it

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was reinforced after chatting with you that, like, hey. We

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might not be planning to, like, gallivant around Italy offline for the month

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of August. Yep. I remember you had thought it might be

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about some of the more agricultural stuff

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and I was like, I

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think it's interesting that the podcast got a rebrand too. Right? Mhmm.

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It did. That's part of your townhouse. Yeah. The rebranding

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and I know. It's it's nice and shiny with a new name. I love you

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know I love it. Like, when I saw the name Much

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more reflective. Yes. I was like, oh, I'm in. And it yes.

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But that's also a 10,000 because it's literally the way that your reputation. It's how

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you put yourself out there. It's how you show up on stage. Right? Like and

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you're very much saying, hey, wealth witches.

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Right? Or with did I get it? Wealth witches? Yeah. Wealth witches. Yeah. Like,

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I almost turned that into a bad word.

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Like, that's sort of it's very defining when you come out of the broom

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closet in any way. Right? For you to have that as part of your

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public persona is a shift if I'm not mistaken. It

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is. And I think it's gonna be fascinating to watch how that

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evolves for this cycle, for the 12 year cycle.

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I I love that. I love the long term foreshadowing

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of things as they happen in in the 10th house. And so you were in

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the 9th house perfection just as

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recently as, March. Right? Mhmm. And so 9th house, like I said, is

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philosophy, religion, spirituality, that which is foreign, which is all foreign

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travel. And, it's just kinda

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what was your experience of and and I also have to say she has a

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glorious 9th house. Like, she has, lovely, lovely things

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in there, and so my anticipation would be that it would have been a very

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good year. What was your experience? I did spend 3 months

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out of the country, not at any one time, but there was definitely a lot

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of foreign travel. Might have actually been more than 3 months, but just 3 months

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that I can think of. I

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wouldn't it was not a bad year. It

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does not feel as good as this year has felt so far, which

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is really interesting to me because I have not been traveling. I've not been doing

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a lot of the things that I normally do, and

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we had a lot of changes, like, on our team and in the

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company, and there was a lot of me kind

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of laying some groundwork for my own

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rituals or routines that and figuring out, like, what

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what really mattered to me. Right? I, you know, struggled with

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all sorts of, like, body issues and things like that over the years. And in

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the last, like, year and a half or so, I've gotten really comfortable with,

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like, how I'm eating, how I'm showing up, like, just things

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kind of along those lines that feel I felt

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more settled after the end of that year. And it felt like I'd sort of

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grounded for then, like, this 10th year that we've been kicking

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off. And that's sort of the way that I always think of the 9th house

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years. It's like you're settling into whatever your philosophical beliefs and your

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mindset is gonna be. I also think that's when you got more interested unless

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you found unless you were into astrology before me, were you? I

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mean, somewhat, but not like, you were you were part of that.

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Yeah. Well, at 9th house is also astrology, which is

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why I brought it up. Like and you went down the rabbit hole. Like, you

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use it a lot. You use it really well now and very effectively,

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and I love watching you plan around it because it

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just makes me happy when I see entrepreneurs leveraging the ever loving daylights out of

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it. I'm just Using all of the tools we have at our

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disposal. Yes. Because it that's really how I think of it. Right? I don't think

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of it as a crystal ball. I think of it as a strategic tool very

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much. And I think that might be a little bit

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unexpected for people who have only been exposed to modern astrology where it's more like

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pop psychology, and more like a Myers Briggs personality

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test and I very rarely talk about people's personalities. I mean,

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we do sometimes if I'm doing, like, how is this person gonna respond to something.

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Right? But, I'm much more focused on predictive and

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strategic with the tools, which is one of the reasons that annual perfections

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is my favorite because I can be like, here. Have it. Go do all the

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things. Like, you don't need to learn your moon sign and your rising sign. You

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don't have to. You're just literally just how old are you, which

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granted, for me, is sometimes a challenge. I don't always know how

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old I am. But for most people, I think it's a little bit easier.

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No. I yeah. There was a year where I think I thought I was 27

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the whole year, and then I actually turned 27. And I was like, oh, oh,

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I've done this before. Cool. Oh, yeah. No. I'm talking like sometimes I

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forget I'm in my forties. I'm like, oh, I'm like, what?

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28, 20 I don't know. I don't know. I'm one of those ages.

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Yeah. It's there's a number in it. Anyway, so

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what else do we think that somebody who's never been introduced to annual perfections

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might need to know? I think

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in terms of how it ties back to business, if

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you can you pull up the PDF that you'd had up? Yep.

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So as we're looking at this from, like, the

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business or the entrepreneur lens Mhmm.

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I mean, to an extent, I would say a lot of these, like, almost everything

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that I do ties back into my business and vice versa. Some, you know, some

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point in time. Are there specific houses

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that you would say, like, hey. I would be paying extra attention as a business

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owner and entrepreneur, and this is why. Yeah. So 10th

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house, obviously, and we've already talked about that a lot. Like, you're probably rebranding,

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reimagining, growing, scaling, or even pivoting and changing directions.

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So definitely 10th house is always a big one. 9th house is usually kind of

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the lead up to that in my experience, so you're getting previews. So 10th house,

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very important. 12th house is actually the one where I see the most entrepreneurs come

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to me for 1 on 1 sessions. It's where I meet most people. I

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would I would say the vast majority.

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Because what happens in a 12th house is is I call it okay.

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You're okay. I'm gonna explain the life cycle of a caterpillar. I know it doesn't

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seem relevant, but I promise that it is. So when a caterpillar is doing its

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thing, living its life, it's in all the other houses. But when a caterpillar

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spends its cocoon and it's in that cocoon, what happens is

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its body melts, like, liquefies. That's a 12th house

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year. Right? That's what you need to be doing in your 12th house year. And

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if you're not doing that, life feels really hard. And

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people have these, like, midlife crisis crises or

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they, you know, they've burned their businesses to the ground. I see that over and

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over again. Like, they'll burn their they'll be in the process of burning their business

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to the ground and they come to me and they they're like, I don't know

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really what's happening. And all it is is that they need to figure out

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different boundaries. They don't actually need to start all over.

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That's really pivotal for entrepreneurs to be aware of because

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I I promise you the tendency is to burn your business down.

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And that's it's also the house of self sabotage. That's one of the

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significations. And it's that for a reason. It's because you're gonna try

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to burn things down that maybe isn't in your best interest to do,

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unless you're using that energy really well. And the way that I tell people

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to use it is to get a lot of coaching or a lot of therapy,

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depending on what stage you're at. Like that's

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like taking care of your brain, your brain is your most important asset as a

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business owner, period. Right? And then so if you're overly stressed and you're

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not able to make clear headed decisions and you your business is gonna suffer. But

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the people that I know who have who either I work with a lot of

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coaches but not exclusively. I would say it's about 5050. The people that I know

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who either have a very strong meditation practice, I'm

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not gonna say spiritual practice, but really meditation, or they do a lot of

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mindset coaching inherently in their lives, they tend to handle the

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12th house better, because they're already paying attention to

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their thoughts and they already know that thoughts aren't don't equal reality

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in a way that people who don't have one of those two tools don't always

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know. And so the 12th

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house, while it doesn't on the surface appear to be important, I promise you if

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you're an entrepreneur, the 12th house, you're gonna feel every transit because that's when your

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self doubt comes up, that's when your self sabotage comes up and that's when you

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need the most external help. And so that's the first

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one, or the first two. And the first house and the

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second house are also really important. 1st house because in the

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caterpillar life cycle, right, you you're actually going from

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that pile of goo to your butterfly wings. And those are the that's the

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butterfly that you're gonna be for the next 12 years, and you're figuring that out

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in your first house. And,

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as an entrepreneur, who you are as a person

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always directly impacts the way you're doing business.

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It's just there's no way for it not to. And so if you're showing

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up differently in your personal life, it doesn't even matter how. Like,

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maybe you're showing up differently because your kids just went to college or maybe you're

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showing up differently because now suddenly you,

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got a divorce, you got married, like, whatever. Right? Like, your identity is changing

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fundamentally or you go from being a Buddhist to a Catholic, you know,

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whatever. Yeah. But there's always a

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big change. And the other thing that I see is people hit their

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first house and they're like, I am ready for my wings. Give

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them to me now. I want them fully formed. I would like to be able

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to fly perfectly, please. But it takes the whole year and

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being impatient is just going to cause you suffering. And if

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you think that you've got it figured out, you don't. Right?

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It does take the whole year and being curious is what I always advise. So

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being compassionate with yourself in the 12th house, being curious in your first house,

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and not trying to rush because it's a whole dang

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year long transit, which we talked about because you it

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feels like a long time already and it's been 3 months.

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Right? Mhmm. And and you're kinda like, well, I should be done now.

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Oh, these are just a great start.

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I did the thing. I did it all. You know? Yeah. But you

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even kind of already know where the next steps are over the next 9

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months. Right? Yeah. And and we've talked

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about it. So we I know that you're building towards a specific goal and how

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that's gonna play out. And they but people don't wanna people don't wanna hear that.

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So, like, if you're listening to me and you're not working with me where I

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can bring you back to reality, just remind yourself that it is a year long

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quest. It is not a side quest. This is the

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main event. So Overarching theme for the

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whole year, not just a portion of it until you think you're done.

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Yeah. Whole year. 2nd house is the other one entrepreneurs like because it's about money.

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It's how you make money. And so usually what happens is in the

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10th house, they decide basically that they're re branding,

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or doing some sort of pivotal change. 11th house, they're implementing it

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in their social media and they're networking and they're doing that. And in the

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12th house, they're burned all the way out and they need like some downtime and

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to reevaluate their life because whatever they've done has changed how

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they view themselves and some of the dynamics within their lives. In the first house,

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they have their come to Jesus moment with themselves and, like, they figure out how

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they wanna show up. And then the second house, how they're making money changes a

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little bit or a lot. It can depending on, like, what their

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chart shows, but it's a focus on how you're making money

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specifically. And so sometimes that looks like a new offer

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or, like within the business that you established, like the way that you've

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rebranded. It can also mean a new revenue stream.

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And so I've seen people, like, who have memberships then do certifications

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or who you know what I mean? Like, it's just a little bit of extra

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stuff that they start doing. And

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yeah. So I would say 10th, 12th, 1st, and second,

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super important for entrepreneurs specifically, and the rest

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of it tends to be 6th house too. 6th house can

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be operational stuff, and I've seen Okay. People in

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6th house who, tighten up their, their

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funnels and who clean up systems, so, like, their automated

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systems, even, like, their launches, all of that

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kinda thing. 8th house tends to be taxes, debt,

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that that kind of thing. I bet you actually get a lot of people when

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they hit 8th house stuff, would be my guess, because it's a you

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have to deal with this now like an adult. That would actually make sense. Yeah.

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Age wise. Mhmm. Yeah. I mean,

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just like I get people in the 12th 10th frequently. Like, my guess is that

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people find you in an 8th or when something in their 8th house is being

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activated. But that's that tends to be when people are like,

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oh, I need to figure out my IRA, or I need to figure out

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how to pay fewer taxes because my business is doing well, or I need to

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figure out how to get a business loan. Or but, like, it tends to be

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that type of thing, and so also pretty important for entrepreneurs.

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I mean, I honestly, I can tell you how it would play out for all

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of them, but those would be, I would say,

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10, 12, 1, and 2, most important. 6 and

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8, secondary importance. And the rest of them

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probably Tertiary. Yeah. Yeah. Like, probably have a little bit more to do

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with the other houses, like what you just

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what you were doing or, like, prepping for them. Mhmm. Mhmm.

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Okay. Not directly, but still tangentially related because, yeah, it all plays

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in. And I will say Yeah.

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Oh, that's the easy version. So this is the thing that I can get for

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people to be able to do very easily. But if I'm not mistaken, like, you

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know, when we were doing the Venus retrograde cycles Mhmm. I

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have that workbook. Mhmm. I I have the same workbook for these

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where people can go back and look at what it was for them in

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the past years so they can get an idea of the quality of it. And

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that's the next layer is like and you can do it for yourself because you

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can just look at the ages and do it. I just have a workbook that

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does it. But do you remember how you were able to clearly see the pattern

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for your Venus retrograde? The same thing happens with annual perfection. So,

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like, if you're 45, just think back to your 33rd year. Right? And you're

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gonna be able to see kind of what the themes are in a very

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clear way. Like, it was it was

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completely obvious. And

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so when I say this is the easiest technique, it is simple to

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get started. It becomes infinitely more

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valuable and complex the deeper you go with it because each of these houses,

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if I have your rising sign, has a sign associated

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with it, which is ruled by a planet. And so if you know

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that information, then, like, let's say you know that you're,

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a Libra rising and you're in a second house perfection,

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then you would know that Scorpio's in your second house. Mars

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becomes the most important planet. You're paying attention to everything Mars does that year.

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So that's the next level. So if you happen to know a little bit more

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about astrology and you know your chart, once you know your annual perfection,

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the planet that rules that house is the most important planet for you,

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wherever it is in your chart naively and what it's doing in the sky. So

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it's just there's there's I the way that I describe

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astrology is like the English language. Right? A kindergartner

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can effectively communicate something Mhmm. But

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he's not Shakespeare. Right? Like, Shakespeare's doing

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language at a whole another level. And so astrology is the same way. I just

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gave you kinder astrology, which is still super powerful because like being

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able to talk and communicate is super powerful no matter how you do it.

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And the more you learn about it, the more like you get the more the

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more closer, yes, the more closer you get to Shakespeare. I think it's great

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that I butchered the English language with that.

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I think it's a perfect example. I love it. But, yes, the the the more

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you know, the closer you can be to Shakespearean Yeah. Astrology.

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I may just call myself a Shakespearean astrologer from now on. Yeah. I

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like it. No. I think too

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that my initial I think what I found

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so valuable about this is that, like, my initial view of astrology

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was just like how did you phrase it

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earlier? Like, the the woey, like, almost like tabloid y Yeah. Like culture.

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Yes. Top top culture. There we go. Yes. Whereas, like, despite

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being myself, I'm

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I work in accounting. I like numbers. I like concrete things. I like

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data. I like patterns. And so much of

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this is just like it's pattern recognition and pattern

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acknowledgement and then educating yourself on what these patterns may mean for you

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based on your individual patterns. And I think looking at at it that way for

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me made a really big difference in how

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I'm adopting it into my life. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm the

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most pragmatic well, this is what I say on my dating profiles. I'm I'm the

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most pragmatic witch you will ever meet. And people are always like,

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wait. What? Those two words do not go together. Like, oh,

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but they can. Yes. And then, you know, the fun thing is that everybody

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that works with me, pragmatic, all of them, because that's the kind of

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astrology I do. And then, like, if you're not tactically minded, I'm probably not the

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astrologer for you, because I don't do the relationship

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feeling stuff. It's not it's not what I'm interested in.

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I at all.

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Right. It's very much like using this as a tool and using

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this to plan,

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which I think that that has been definitely the most beneficial for me to be

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able to, like, block chunks of time up in my calendar for, like,

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hey. Caitlin needs extra downtime now.

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Or, hey. Things might be a little right now. Don't burn it

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to the ground. It's this too is a phase. It shall pass.

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Yeah. And, I mean, what's interesting is because there's so so many significations

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with the houses and the planets and everything, like, I'm always playing the

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odds, which is more math. Right? Like, I'm always playing the odds of what's

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most likely to happen, but that doesn't mean it's the only thing that can happen,

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which is the value of working with astrology a lot in

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somebody's chart. Like, if why I empower people to do it for themselves

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is because you will learn your patterns better than any

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book, any software, any astrologer because I have one

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I have one client whose 7th house, always, every

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time it's activated, it's because he's having trouble at work. It's never a

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partnership. It's never a relationship. It's always the open enemies part

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of the 7th house. And so, like, whenever he has something go through there, if

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it looks challenging, I'm like, I know what's about to happen because this happens over

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and over and over again. Right? I'm never like, oh, you're gonna have a fight

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with your nonexistent partner because, well, 1, he doesn't have a partner, and

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2, that's just never what it is. And so that's the value of

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long term analysis and paying attention to the cycles and the trends.

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Right? And this is how I this is my gateway drug

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and people see that it works. And then they're like, wait. You mean astrology's

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real? What? I I

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could have more behind behind the curtain information.

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I do. I love saying I'm Morpheus.

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I think that's a good way to put it. Yeah. Yes. Yes. So

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that Why make it harder than it needs to be? For real. And, I

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mean, I so we didn't say what, like, the fate and free will thing is,

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but I I do believe that fate is real.

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Okay? And so my premise is that things are predestined to happen, and the

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free will component is that you get to choose your experience of

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that. And so if if we know that you're gonna be working a lot,

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if you're just planning that and if you if you had been planning a vacation,

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and then you had to work, you'd have been your experience of it would have

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sucked. Right? But if you're like, okay, I'm gonna be open to the possibility that

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I might not hate working. Like, that's all you had to do, and your experience

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has been great. Like, just that tiny little tiny little thing.

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And so I do believe it's both, and that's the reason I think astrology works

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so well is because you can see,

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hey. This might be more challenging. Do I ever think that means don't do something?

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No. I think that means that you're gonna have to work on your mindset if

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you're going to execute it well. And so I have

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a there's a person. I'm she's not my client yet.

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I'm I'm holding space for one day for her to be my client so that

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I can help her have an easier life. But,

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she's a multi seven figure entrepreneur,

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And whatever word means

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the complete opposite of good astrological timing natively,

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whatever that word is. Right? Like, it she's

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Eprocious. Yeah. Oh my gosh. She's so bad. Like, if it's like

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the opposite of a good election. It's like, hey. What's the worst possible day for

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me to do this? And she will pick it for launches almost every single time.

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It is the wildest thing I have ever seen. I mean, to the point where

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I would like to, to like, when I hear that she's doing a launch, I

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just go, I'm not doing anything that week because I already know.

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I already have to go look at the calendar. I know it's gonna be bad.

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And she's a multi seven figure business owner because

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she manages her mind better than anybody I have ever seen. Like, she has the

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coaching tools down and the thought work down. And so when she hits

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those things that are challenging, she manages her mind and she

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continues to move forward and continues to work through

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the energy instead of just letting it stop her. And I

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and that's another valuable thing

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about understanding astrology deeply

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is to never let it stop you from doing

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something you really wanna do. Just be willing to do the work for it.

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So have an open mind. Yeah. Well, yeah. So, like, when I say the 12th

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house is probably gonna be hard, I'm not saying don't do anything. I'm saying you're

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gonna need extra support to do the things that you wanna do.

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Right? And also be maybe more naps.

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Naps and support. Yeah. Oh, but also imagine what her launches could look like

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for her, what her business could look like for her if she was, like,

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even mid midway with better dates and better timing.

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Yeah. You're just dying inside of the game. It kills me. It kills me so

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much. And I'm not the I never I never solicit work. Right? And I'm

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just like, somebody please tell her to let me help her. I'll do it

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for free. Like, just it hurts my heart. Let

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me help you, please, because I'm dying inside. It is a little

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bit. Like, when I see her do something on an eclipse and a Mercury retrograde,

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I'm like, why, though? Why why would why? Why? And it

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completely bombed. She had to relaunch. I was like, yeah. She did a great

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job. She made a ton of money off of it, but it was a cluster

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situation.

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And, yeah, and I like to avoid those. So I don't

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watch during those windows because I don't wanna have to manage my mind that much.

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I don't. I don't. I I want it to be easier for me. And

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so Mhmm. Can I get through hard things? Yes. Do I

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want to actively choose to put myself in those positions? No, I do not. So

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I will not be expanding my business in my 12th house year. I've already got

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a plan for what my 12th house year is gonna be, and it's gonna be

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a lot of research as I pursue a PhD. Mhmm. Right?

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And that's much more internal and not me having to be on stage, which

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is more stressful for me. And because I know what my 12th I have

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Virgo in my 12th house. It's very studious. My Mercury wants to be doing

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that sort of thing. It'll be very relaxing and regulating for me.

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Right? And and so that's the kind of thing

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doesn't mean my business won't be running. It will be. But I won't

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be doing the kind of work that I am now. Just like you won't be

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doing the kind of work you're doing now. Right. Like, we already

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have kinda mapped out your, like, kind of Next 2 years. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. And that's part of what you're planning for now, which is

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another way that you can, like, very easily Right. Exactly.

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Look. Yeah. We're we're forecasting ahead. Like, hey, this is coming down the

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pipeline based on what I'm wanting to do now. Like, what does that look like

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so that you can be working with it instead of against it? Yeah.

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And and it gives you the ability something that I think a lot of

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entrepreneurs have difficulty with is planning

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because their brains you can't be an entrepreneur and have a normal brain. Like, I

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just don't think that even exists. And so normal

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calendaring and scheduling and sticking to the, you know, the

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beginning of the years in January and the end of the year, like, it's it

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doesn't make sense for most entrepreneurs. Right? This is where

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this this works for every entrepreneur I've ever put it in front of. It makes

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them it makes their cycles make sense to them and why they

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feel more like doing like, you feel more like being really active

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in your business when every a lot of other people wanna be vacationing right now,

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but it's because of the way that your chart's lined up. Right? And so people

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don't have to resist that. And you

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can just plan based on them and not based on an arbitrary

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calendar that was made up by other humans.

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Shocker. I know. No. I'm I'm

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excited. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to the next Right

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now. Little bit of time.

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Oh, okay. So yeah. I was

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just gonna say, I don't think we have time for the other ones. No. That

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that's totally fine. So, Robin, I

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think I follow you on Instagram, and I think everyone else should

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follow you on Instagram because you put out a ton of really valuable content. I

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actually check when I get online, I check yours first for the day. Just as

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my little reminder of what what the day even though we, like, we we chat

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about little brain. It's my little nudge of, like, hey, FYI.

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Mhmm. So we'll make sure to link your Instagram, which is wicked

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veracity. Correct? Wicked wicked.veracity. Funny thing. Wicked.veracity.

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Okay. Yeah. I check my Instagram every morning too because I need the reminder because

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I write it, like, a week ahead of time. Mhmm. And so I'm like, okay.

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What is my day gonna look? Because I don't remember. And I put out an

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email. Oh, I also have an email list that if if you want a weekly

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test, you should definitely get on it. Yes. I do read that as

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well. So we'll make sure to link both of those. And then where

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like, if I wanted to dive more into all of this,

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where do we need to go? Where does anyone listening need to go? Yeah.

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So, I mean, Instagram pod I have a podcast with the Brassy podcast as

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well, but I have a membership. The Crusade is specifically for entrepreneurs

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to teach them how to do this, and we I do live mindset and astrological

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coaching every week, in in my group, and we've have

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workbooks where they can do where they learn it in a very practical, tangible

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way. And you can learn all about it at wickedveracity.com backslash

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crusade. Wonderful. We'll make sure to link all of that in the

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notes. If there's anything that you could think of to leave

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any of the listeners with some wisdom that you could impart?

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Is there anything that you would tell them when it comes to astrology

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and their business or their ventures?

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There's a quote Mhmm. That is

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probably not valid because you know how most quotes are, but the

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quote goes, and I wanna say it was a Rockefeller that said it, but,

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millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do.

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And the reason astrology

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was reserved for kings in the past is because

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it's so powerful. And if you

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really want to to strategically

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benefit your business, I think it's one of the most powerful tools that

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people can easily access. Right? Like, you

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don't have to learn all of it. You just have to learn to pay attention

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to a few cycles that aren't super complicated and

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just even be and pay attention. Like, even get on my email list and pay

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attention to the Instagram, and you could seriously

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start to use it to your advantage immediately, and I don't

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know why they wouldn't do it. Is that

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how's that? Yeah. No. I think that was fantastic. I didn't mean to completely put

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you on the spot there, but you absolutely delivered. That was

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and that's I've I've heard that quote before, and it was always really intriguing to

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me. But then it was, you know, the the pop culture version of astrology. I

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was like, this this seems like bullshit. Like Well, it is. And so,

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like, I am never advocating and you can I don't know if this is staying

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in, but this can stay in because the other thing I'll say is what I

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do is not what you're gonna see in Cosmo? Right? Like, that's not what I'm

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doing. What I'm doing is very different, and I do predictive Hellenistic

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astrology. And modern astrology is what was

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created from the remnants of a tradition that was infinitely

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powerful more powerful than what we've had access to and we've only

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recovered the techniques like annual perfections in the last 30 years

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as the primary and secondary sources were translated out of the original

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Greek and the secondary sources were in Arabic. And those were the

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only surviving copies because as the

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Catholic church spread, they banned astrology,

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not because it didn't work, which they would even say, but because it went against

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God. And the text eventually fell out of

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favor and so they were there were only there just weren't any in the modern

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languages and it was just what people had remembered and passed down. And it

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was still so powerful that it could change people's lives, and it was nothing

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compared to what we can do now. Right. Just, yeah, the remnants of and it

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was still Still make it and people were still like, there's something to this.

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Right? Because, like, it was still so useful. And the fact and

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we're still getting more and more techniques. Like, we have we have people who are

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actively working to translate texts that have never been translated into

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English. I'm actually the PhD that I'm working that I wanna that I want will

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let me do that from for texts that are coming out of cuneiform, which has

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even we have even less access to because the texts that have been

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translated out of cuneiform, clearly, most historians don't really

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care about the astrological and magical texts. They have not been a

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priority. They will be my priority. And That'll be

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really exciting. Yeah. I'm thrilled. Right? But, like, that's the kind

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of research, and I do mean, like, really, truly. It's like academic research that's

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going on to give us the techniques that we've lost access to. And and

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so if if you were interested in astrology 20 years ago and you're like, that's

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bull. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't predictive. Fair. Like

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but that's not what I do. Mhmm. Mhmm. No. It's definitely different than

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what I had anticipated, which was fluffier.

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Yours is yours is the opposite of fluffy, which has

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been really nice as someone that likes to take

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action and have data. Yes. And it's replicable. So, like

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and that's the other thing. It's, like, all of my super smart, strategic people are

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like, wait a minute. Statistically, I don't think that could be

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random. Yes. Exact like, yeah. We

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we had a point where this is not just coincidental. Yes.

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But that's what I love about astrology. And when people start working with it for

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themselves and not just listening and being consumers of it, it becomes

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obvious. And once it becomes obvious, then you start being able to do it for

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yourself. I have somebody in the crusade who, at our weekly call this

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week, said she's been in the crusade, I wanna say, I April may

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change, like, 4 months maybe. And she's like, this is the 1st month

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that I understood and I predicted accurately

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based off of the workbook. Like, she went back to review because, you know, you

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get it too. Right? Like, the, my workbook has a summary of what it's gonna

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be, where it's gonna play out, and then I say, you predict and then you

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come back and see what it was because that's part of learning, right, like what

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your patterns are. And she's like, I got it. I mean, it wasn't exactly right,

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but I got it. And that's what happened. And she was thrilled. And I was

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I mean, I was I was so happy.

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Proud teacher moment. It's because it's so easy to do for

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yourself if you're trying because it is a science. It's not guesswork. It's not woo.

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It's not metaphysical or parapsychological or anything. It's just, like,

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you just follow the rules, and you plug in the words,

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and it works. A plus b equals

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c. Right. Even that's too complicated for me, but yes.

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For my math brain, it's yeah. The the bare bones. But no. That's

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that's fantastic. Thank you so

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much. I'm really glad that we got to have you on here. You're gonna be

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one of the first, I think, kickoff for the the relaunch.

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So I'll make sure to drop everything in the notes. And,

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Robin, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. It was absolutely

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delightful, and I cannot wait to listen to every single podcast that you do.

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That's a wrap for this episode of the Wealth Witches podcast. I hope our

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