In this episode of the Wealth Witches Podcast, host Katelyn Magnuson is joined by the insightful Robin Langford, a Fate and Free Will coach who blends historical knowledge with astrological expertise. The conversation centers around the concept of annual profections, a powerful timing technique that helps you focus your energy and strategically plan your year.

Robin provides an in-depth explanation of the 12 houses in astrology and how each house influences different aspects of your life and business. She highlights the significance of specific houses for entrepreneurs, particularly the 10th, 12th, 1st, and 2nd houses, and shares real-life examples of how understanding these houses can lead to better business decisions and personal growth.

Katelyn and Robin also discuss the importance of recognizing patterns in astrology, using predictive astrology to anticipate challenges and opportunities, and practical tips for integrating these insights into your everyday planning. Whether you're an astrology enthusiast or new to the concept, this episode offers valuable guidance on leveraging cosmic energies for holistic success.

Key Takeaways

• Understanding the concept of annual profections and how it can guide your focus each year.
• How to determine your current profection year and what it signifies.
• The importance of specific houses for entrepreneurs and how they impact business strategies.
• Real-life examples of how Robin and Katelyn have used annual profections to make informed decisions.
• Practical tips for integrating astrology into your daily and business planning.

Guest Bio:

Robin Langford of Wicked Veracity is a Fate & Free Will coach who blends practical astrology with contemporary mindset coaching to help entrepreneurs leverage their unique strengths, navigate challenges, and strategically plan their lives and businesses. 

Connect with Robin:

Instagram: @wicked.veracity

Program: wicked.veracity.com/crusade

Podcast: https://www.wickedveracity.com/podcast

Resource: Annual Profection Houses

🔮 Wealth Witches™ Monthly Membership Program 🔮

Are you ready to take your financial journey to the next level? Join the Wealth Witches™ membership for exclusive access to live training sessions on money, taxes, retirement, and business support. You'll also gain entry to our inclusive community where you can connect with like-minded individuals and get even more out of your financial journey. We're a community of passionate, purpose-driven entrepreneurs who see creating wealth holistically rather than stuck in another crypto-bro investing black hole membership. Join today: www.thefreelancecfo.com/wealth-witches-podcast-member

Thanks for Listening:

Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share! Follow us on Instagram @WealthWitchesPodcast or drop us a message with your questions and episode requests. Looking for more finance tips, visit our main Instagram @thefreelancecfo.

Subscribe to The Podcast:

If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, don't forget to subscribe. You can also give us a follow on your favorite podcast app.

Leave Us a Review:

Leave a 5-star review and include your IG handle to enter to win a free month of Wealth Witches Membership! We draw the winner at the beginning of each quarter.

Stay magical and empowered, and remember, wealth isn't just about dollars in the bank – it's about creating abundance in all aspects of your life.

DISCLAIMER: This Podcast may receive compensation for promoting or recommending products or services through affiliate links. We only recommend products and services that we believe are of value to our listeners. The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute professional financial, accounting, or legal advice. Listeners are advised to consult with qualified professionals before making any financial decisions. The Freelance CFO is not responsible for any actions taken based on the information provided

Music credit: Neon Fairies by Wolves 

Hello, and welcome magical creatures to the Wealth Witches podcast.

This is a place where we brew up financial empowerment and mix in a little

sprinkle of magic. I'm Caitlin Magnuson, your guide on this

enchanted journey to financial enlightenment. Here, we honor all

identities and invoke our inner witches to create holistic wealth and prosperity.

So grab your crystals, open your minds, and let's get ready to conjure some

financial clarity clarity.

Hi. Welcome back to Wealth Witches. I'm your host, Caitlin Magnuson.

And today, we have Robin Langford, and I am so

excited to have her here. Robin is a fate and free will coach who

blends practical astrology with contemporary mindset coaching to help

entrepreneurs leverage their unique strengths, navigate challenges, and

strategically plan their lives and businesses. Robin, you have

a lot more experience than just, you know, this

bio really lays out. Can you tell everyone that's listening a little bit

more about, you know, your background and who you are?

Yes. I am a neurodivergent

witch, which is appropriate for this

particular podcast. I have an

undergraduate degree in history, so I am a trained historian and researcher. I have

a master's degree in curriculum and instruction, which means I'm

a really, really good at explaining things.

And I have been in education I was I've been in education

broadly for about 20 years. I have been an entrepreneur for

15 years, and I have been working with astrology, the traditional Hellenistic

predictive astrology that I use with my clients for about a decade now.

It's quite a lot of experience. It is. And that's the nutshell

version. Yes. No. Not the extended yeah.

Very, very long version of the or it could be. I have found

your gift and your insight to be really invaluable, and I'm so

excited for you to drop a little bit of that knowledge with all of the

listeners today. And today, we're gonna be talking about annual perfections

for figuring out where your focus should be. The great thing about this when

you and I were chatting topics is this makes it really easy for, you know,

anyone that's listening because you only need to know your age

for this to be something that you can actually utilize and put into play. Can

you tell us a little bit more about, the topic that we're going to be

covering today, Robin? Sure. The reason that I love annual perfection

so much is because it is one of the most powerful timing techniques that lets

us know if I do have a birth chart, like, what's gonna be the most

active and what's gonna be most likely to be happening. But even if I don't,

it's an a powerful astrology technique that can be used by

literally anybody. And like you said, they only have to know their their age.

And do you wanna tell you how kind of how it works real quick? Mhmm.

So in astrology, there are 12 houses and those 12 houses cover

all of the people and topics, of an individual's life.

And the criticism that people have of astrology frequently is

how can every how how can everything be

shown in one chart. Right? Like one little map. And it's

because not everything is active at any given time

and this is one of the ways that we know what is active and what's

gonna be the most important in the natal chart, but also what's gonna be the

most important in the where the planets are in at any good

event at any given moment.

And, and so first house is

always you as a person. It is the only house in the

entire chart that just has to do with the individual. The second

house is how you make money. That's one that most of my entrepreneurs

love. The 3rd house is communication. It tends to be

things for I'm gonna speak specifically to entrepreneurs and business owners because that's

just who I work with the most. But so I want people to recognize that

it also has to do with about 20 to a 100 other topics,

but I'm talking specifically about the ones that are applicable to entrepreneurs in

general. 3rd house tends to be, like, emails, podcasts, correspondences,

that sort of thing. 4th house is family and home, so your home environment.

This was very important for a lot of my work at home or work from

home or work remotely people. 5th is

pleasure. It's all of the fun things. It's,

children, romance, that type of thing. 6th house is your systems.

It's also what you feel responsible to and your health,

and pets interestingly enough which a lot of entrepreneurs didn't have.

7th house is your partner and that can be business partner or

your romantic partner and also open enemies and

lawsuits. 8th house is taxes and we've talked about

this one a lot. It's taxes, it's bookkeeping, it's estate planning, it's your

partner's money, it's money that you make indirectly, so like affiliate sales

or, that sort of thing, or royalties. So a lot of

my people also have books published and royalties tend to fall in there.

9th house is everything that expands your mind, higher education, religion,

philosophy, and foreign travel, one of your

favorites. 12, 10th house is

your public reputation and how you deal with authority and often it

can be like the direction your business is going. For entrepreneurs, it can be a

little bit different for people who have straight jobs. 11th

house is networks, masterminds, social

media, how you, and, like,

the thing I always wanna say is friends with benefits, which, you know, but I

actually need friends with influence. And then 12th house is self sabotage,

hidden enemies. So that can sometimes be, like,

malicious gossip for entrepreneurs, and needing

a lot more downtime. And the way that I use the house is beyond

annual annual perfections is it it makes it really clear, like, there are some times

when hustle's a great thing and it's indicated

by transit, which you know because you're in a hustle period.

And and there's sometimes it's like, no, you need to sit down and not do

anything or do the bare minimum just to stay afloat, but, like, give your body

time to rest and relax. And the perfections tell us that. So each one

of those things that I just described is an area of life that can you

can tell when it's being activated by your age and that just tells you

your general theme for the entire year just by knowing your age

and that's annual projections. Fantastic.

Yeah. I know. That, I feel like

some of the friends with benefits make total sense to me because I think of

it a little bit grander than just the, I think, linear

definition of it, but, that's fantastic. So where do

we start if I'm wanting to find out, you know, what my annual perfection

is for the year? So, you know, I just realized that they will need I'm

gonna give you a one page chart so that that they'll look like

can I share my screen with you real quick? Of course. So I have a

I have a workbook that I've I've created for my members, and I'm just gonna

pull one page out of it for you. And they can just look at their,

so what what we're looking at on the screen right now, if you're not watching,

is a circle chart that's laid out like an astrology chart and it

has the age, and the house

number for each of the perfections and

it starts over. So you go in the 1st year, when you're

born from ages 0 to 1, you're in a first house perfection. From ages 1

to 2, you're in a second house perfection and so on. And it repeats when

you turn 12, 24, 36, 48, 60.

Like, that's when you get a brand new start. And so this one page also

tells you a very brief very brief

keywords for each house. So that's all anybody needs to know what their theme is

for the year, and it'll just be that one page. Perfect.

Yeah. Yeah. No. That's awesome. So we'll make sure that we link that in here.

But, also, if you're listening to this, we will eventually be putting the video

recording of this up online. So make sure to check back for updated show

notes because it may be there. Yeah. Well, the yeah. You can just put

in there and let them download it. I'll just We'll put yeah. We'll we'll link

this in here, but if anyone's wanting to see anything that is shared yeah. Yeah.

And so this just makes it really easy. And people

actually, can we talk about your chart? Is that okay? Okay. So you

went from a 9th house to a 10th house perfection since we've been working together.

And why don't you tell them your experience of how crazy you thought I was?

Oh my god. So, yeah, I I started my 10th house perfection in

May. And prior to that, Robin and I have been working together in February.

And Robin's like, you're not gonna be taking a lot of vacations this summer. Right?

I was like, no. But I really don't wanna be working. I'm really tired. She's

like, no. No. You're gonna wanna be you're gonna wanna be doing a

lot of the things this summer. I was like, you're okay. No. I

really don't, but sure. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna hold this space for anything

being possible. And then sure shit

without fail come this summer, I was like, oh, I do

wanna do the things. I do have all of these, like, creative ideas and

changes in the business and changes in how I'm interacting with

the business that I want to be making. And she was like, did you doubt

me? I didn't I didn't doubt. I just didn't think it was

gonna be quite this much of a 180. So, yes, that's been my

very short summary experience of what the first three months of my

10th house production. Isn't that wild that how much you've gotten done in

that area in just those 3 months? And, I mean, it was amplified for you

because of other things that are happening like the retrograde.

But that's the power of annual perfections and, like, being

able to plan your year knowing that's just where your focus is gonna be.

And it doesn't mean that you're not gonna be traveling because I know that you

are, but not not during this particular shift,

which I love. So, and that's for anybody who's listening. If

you are probably not 9, but if you're 21, 33, 45, 57,

or 69, you're also in a 10th house perfection. I'm I

am 45. I I'm also in a 10th house perfection and it

has been wild. And so and that's the

beauty of it. They're like, you know nothing about astrology and how easy is that?

Yeah. No. It it's it's it's been

wild, I think, to say the least at the the 180 that I

did. I did not think I was gonna be working or not even

working this much, making this much forward progress. Yeah.

And I think that was the distinction that I was hung up on that you

were like, it doesn't necessarily mean you're working more hours. Yeah. But

we're we're changing things and work and the business is a

large focus, which it has been. Yeah. And for 10th house,

specifically, it does tend to be because all of the houses, you go through them

at once every 12 years. And so it's it tends to be a defining

a defining year for that area and you you making big

changes that you'll be working with for the next

12 years. Right? And that's for sure been

my experience every single time. I'm like, wow. And I

know astrology really well and I'm still like, So that's how that's how that played

out. Alright. Well, that's fine.

That tracks. Yeah. But just being able to plan. So, like, I knew and you

knew going in kind of how to plan for

your summer. Right? Like, you didn't you didn't plan a

whole bunch of, quote, unquote, fun things, but I think you've still been having

fun. No. Quite a bit of fun, but nothing that's gonna take me out of

the game, so to speak, for more than, like, a few days at a time

kind of a thing. I think that that is naturally kind

of what I leaned towards doing most of the summer anyways, but it

was reinforced after chatting with you that, like, hey. We

might not be planning to, like, gallivant around Italy offline for the month

of August. Yep. I remember you had thought it might be

about some of the more agricultural stuff

and I was like, I

think it's interesting that the podcast got a rebrand too. Right? Mhmm.

It did. That's part of your townhouse. Yeah. The rebranding

and I know. It's it's nice and shiny with a new name. I love you

know I love it. Like, when I saw the name Much

more reflective. Yes. I was like, oh, I'm in. And it yes.

But that's also a 10,000 because it's literally the way that your reputation. It's how

you put yourself out there. It's how you show up on stage. Right? Like and

you're very much saying, hey, wealth witches.

Right? Or with did I get it? Wealth witches? Yeah. Wealth witches. Yeah. Like,

I almost turned that into a bad word.

Like, that's sort of it's very defining when you come out of the broom

closet in any way. Right? For you to have that as part of your

public persona is a shift if I'm not mistaken. It

is. And I think it's gonna be fascinating to watch how that

evolves for this cycle, for the 12 year cycle.

I I love that. I love the long term foreshadowing

of things as they happen in in the 10th house. And so you were in

the 9th house perfection just as

recently as, March. Right? Mhmm. And so 9th house, like I said, is

philosophy, religion, spirituality, that which is foreign, which is all foreign

travel. And, it's just kinda

what was your experience of and and I also have to say she has a

glorious 9th house. Like, she has, lovely, lovely things

in there, and so my anticipation would be that it would have been a very

good year. What was your experience? I did spend 3 months

out of the country, not at any one time, but there was definitely a lot

of foreign travel. Might have actually been more than 3 months, but just 3 months

that I can think of. I

wouldn't it was not a bad year. It

does not feel as good as this year has felt so far, which

is really interesting to me because I have not been traveling. I've not been doing

a lot of the things that I normally do, and

we had a lot of changes, like, on our team and in the

company, and there was a lot of me kind

of laying some groundwork for my own

rituals or routines that and figuring out, like, what

what really mattered to me. Right? I, you know, struggled with

all sorts of, like, body issues and things like that over the years. And in

the last, like, year and a half or so, I've gotten really comfortable with,

like, how I'm eating, how I'm showing up, like, just things

kind of along those lines that feel I felt

more settled after the end of that year. And it felt like I'd sort of

grounded for then, like, this 10th year that we've been kicking

off. And that's sort of the way that I always think of the 9th house

years. It's like you're settling into whatever your philosophical beliefs and your

mindset is gonna be. I also think that's when you got more interested unless

you found unless you were into astrology before me, were you? I

mean, somewhat, but not like, you were you were part of that.

Yeah. Well, at 9th house is also astrology, which is

why I brought it up. Like and you went down the rabbit hole. Like, you

use it a lot. You use it really well now and very effectively,

and I love watching you plan around it because it

just makes me happy when I see entrepreneurs leveraging the ever loving daylights out of

it. I'm just Using all of the tools we have at our

disposal. Yes. Because it that's really how I think of it. Right? I don't think

of it as a crystal ball. I think of it as a strategic tool very

much. And I think that might be a little bit

unexpected for people who have only been exposed to modern astrology where it's more like

pop psychology, and more like a Myers Briggs personality

test and I very rarely talk about people's personalities. I mean,

we do sometimes if I'm doing, like, how is this person gonna respond to something.

Right? But, I'm much more focused on predictive and

strategic with the tools, which is one of the reasons that annual perfections

is my favorite because I can be like, here. Have it. Go do all the

things. Like, you don't need to learn your moon sign and your rising sign. You

don't have to. You're just literally just how old are you, which

granted, for me, is sometimes a challenge. I don't always know how

old I am. But for most people, I think it's a little bit easier.

No. I yeah. There was a year where I think I thought I was 27

the whole year, and then I actually turned 27. And I was like, oh, oh,

I've done this before. Cool. Oh, yeah. No. I'm talking like sometimes I

forget I'm in my forties. I'm like, oh, I'm like, what?

28, 20 I don't know. I don't know. I'm one of those ages.

Yeah. It's there's a number in it. Anyway, so

what else do we think that somebody who's never been introduced to annual perfections

might need to know? I think

in terms of how it ties back to business, if

you can you pull up the PDF that you'd had up? Yep.

So as we're looking at this from, like, the

business or the entrepreneur lens Mhmm.

I mean, to an extent, I would say a lot of these, like, almost everything

that I do ties back into my business and vice versa. Some, you know, some

point in time. Are there specific houses

that you would say, like, hey. I would be paying extra attention as a business

owner and entrepreneur, and this is why. Yeah. So 10th

house, obviously, and we've already talked about that a lot. Like, you're probably rebranding,

reimagining, growing, scaling, or even pivoting and changing directions.

So definitely 10th house is always a big one. 9th house is usually kind of

the lead up to that in my experience, so you're getting previews. So 10th house,

very important. 12th house is actually the one where I see the most entrepreneurs come

to me for 1 on 1 sessions. It's where I meet most people. I

would I would say the vast majority.

Because what happens in a 12th house is is I call it okay.

You're okay. I'm gonna explain the life cycle of a caterpillar. I know it doesn't

seem relevant, but I promise that it is. So when a caterpillar is doing its

thing, living its life, it's in all the other houses. But when a caterpillar

spends its cocoon and it's in that cocoon, what happens is

its body melts, like, liquefies. That's a 12th house

year. Right? That's what you need to be doing in your 12th house year. And

if you're not doing that, life feels really hard. And

people have these, like, midlife crisis crises or

they, you know, they've burned their businesses to the ground. I see that over and

over again. Like, they'll burn their they'll be in the process of burning their business

to the ground and they come to me and they they're like, I don't know

really what's happening. And all it is is that they need to figure out

different boundaries. They don't actually need to start all over.

That's really pivotal for entrepreneurs to be aware of because

I I promise you the tendency is to burn your business down.

And that's it's also the house of self sabotage. That's one of the

significations. And it's that for a reason. It's because you're gonna try

to burn things down that maybe isn't in your best interest to do,

unless you're using that energy really well. And the way that I tell people

to use it is to get a lot of coaching or a lot of therapy,

depending on what stage you're at. Like that's

like taking care of your brain, your brain is your most important asset as a

business owner, period. Right? And then so if you're overly stressed and you're

not able to make clear headed decisions and you your business is gonna suffer. But

the people that I know who have who either I work with a lot of

coaches but not exclusively. I would say it's about 5050. The people that I know

who either have a very strong meditation practice, I'm

not gonna say spiritual practice, but really meditation, or they do a lot of

mindset coaching inherently in their lives, they tend to handle the

12th house better, because they're already paying attention to

their thoughts and they already know that thoughts aren't don't equal reality

in a way that people who don't have one of those two tools don't always

know. And so the 12th

house, while it doesn't on the surface appear to be important, I promise you if

you're an entrepreneur, the 12th house, you're gonna feel every transit because that's when your

self doubt comes up, that's when your self sabotage comes up and that's when you

need the most external help. And so that's the first

one, or the first two. And the first house and the

second house are also really important. 1st house because in the

caterpillar life cycle, right, you you're actually going from

that pile of goo to your butterfly wings. And those are the that's the

butterfly that you're gonna be for the next 12 years, and you're figuring that out

in your first house. And,

as an entrepreneur, who you are as a person

always directly impacts the way you're doing business.

It's just there's no way for it not to. And so if you're showing

up differently in your personal life, it doesn't even matter how. Like,

maybe you're showing up differently because your kids just went to college or maybe you're

showing up differently because now suddenly you,

got a divorce, you got married, like, whatever. Right? Like, your identity is changing

fundamentally or you go from being a Buddhist to a Catholic, you know,

whatever. Yeah. But there's always a

big change. And the other thing that I see is people hit their

first house and they're like, I am ready for my wings. Give

them to me now. I want them fully formed. I would like to be able

to fly perfectly, please. But it takes the whole year and

being impatient is just going to cause you suffering. And if

you think that you've got it figured out, you don't. Right?

It does take the whole year and being curious is what I always advise. So

being compassionate with yourself in the 12th house, being curious in your first house,

and not trying to rush because it's a whole dang

year long transit, which we talked about because you it

feels like a long time already and it's been 3 months.

Right? Mhmm. And and you're kinda like, well, I should be done now.

Oh, these are just a great start.

I did the thing. I did it all. You know? Yeah. But you

even kind of already know where the next steps are over the next 9

months. Right? Yeah. And and we've talked

about it. So we I know that you're building towards a specific goal and how

that's gonna play out. And they but people don't wanna people don't wanna hear that.

So, like, if you're listening to me and you're not working with me where I

can bring you back to reality, just remind yourself that it is a year long

quest. It is not a side quest. This is the

main event. So Overarching theme for the

whole year, not just a portion of it until you think you're done.

Yeah. Whole year. 2nd house is the other one entrepreneurs like because it's about money.

It's how you make money. And so usually what happens is in the

10th house, they decide basically that they're re branding,

or doing some sort of pivotal change. 11th house, they're implementing it

in their social media and they're networking and they're doing that. And in the

12th house, they're burned all the way out and they need like some downtime and

to reevaluate their life because whatever they've done has changed how

they view themselves and some of the dynamics within their lives. In the first house,

they have their come to Jesus moment with themselves and, like, they figure out how

they wanna show up. And then the second house, how they're making money changes a

little bit or a lot. It can depending on, like, what their

chart shows, but it's a focus on how you're making money

specifically. And so sometimes that looks like a new offer

or, like within the business that you established, like the way that you've

rebranded. It can also mean a new revenue stream.

And so I've seen people, like, who have memberships then do certifications

or who you know what I mean? Like, it's just a little bit of extra

stuff that they start doing. And

yeah. So I would say 10th, 12th, 1st, and second,

super important for entrepreneurs specifically, and the rest

of it tends to be 6th house too. 6th house can

be operational stuff, and I've seen Okay. People in

6th house who, tighten up their, their

funnels and who clean up systems, so, like, their automated

systems, even, like, their launches, all of that

kinda thing. 8th house tends to be taxes, debt,

that that kind of thing. I bet you actually get a lot of people when

they hit 8th house stuff, would be my guess, because it's a you

have to deal with this now like an adult. That would actually make sense. Yeah.

Age wise. Mhmm. Yeah. I mean,

just like I get people in the 12th 10th frequently. Like, my guess is that

people find you in an 8th or when something in their 8th house is being

activated. But that's that tends to be when people are like,

oh, I need to figure out my IRA, or I need to figure out

how to pay fewer taxes because my business is doing well, or I need to

figure out how to get a business loan. Or but, like, it tends to be

that type of thing, and so also pretty important for entrepreneurs.

I mean, I honestly, I can tell you how it would play out for all

of them, but those would be, I would say,

10, 12, 1, and 2, most important. 6 and

8, secondary importance. And the rest of them

probably Tertiary. Yeah. Yeah. Like, probably have a little bit more to do

with the other houses, like what you just

what you were doing or, like, prepping for them. Mhmm. Mhmm.

Okay. Not directly, but still tangentially related because, yeah, it all plays

in. And I will say Yeah.

Oh, that's the easy version. So this is the thing that I can get for

people to be able to do very easily. But if I'm not mistaken, like, you

know, when we were doing the Venus retrograde cycles Mhmm. I

have that workbook. Mhmm. I I have the same workbook for these

where people can go back and look at what it was for them in

the past years so they can get an idea of the quality of it. And

that's the next layer is like and you can do it for yourself because you

can just look at the ages and do it. I just have a workbook that

does it. But do you remember how you were able to clearly see the pattern

for your Venus retrograde? The same thing happens with annual perfection. So,

like, if you're 45, just think back to your 33rd year. Right? And you're

gonna be able to see kind of what the themes are in a very

clear way. Like, it was it was

completely obvious. And

so when I say this is the easiest technique, it is simple to

get started. It becomes infinitely more

valuable and complex the deeper you go with it because each of these houses,

if I have your rising sign, has a sign associated

with it, which is ruled by a planet. And so if you know

that information, then, like, let's say you know that you're,

a Libra rising and you're in a second house perfection,

then you would know that Scorpio's in your second house. Mars

becomes the most important planet. You're paying attention to everything Mars does that year.

So that's the next level. So if you happen to know a little bit more

about astrology and you know your chart, once you know your annual perfection,

the planet that rules that house is the most important planet for you,

wherever it is in your chart naively and what it's doing in the sky. So

it's just there's there's I the way that I describe

astrology is like the English language. Right? A kindergartner

can effectively communicate something Mhmm. But

he's not Shakespeare. Right? Like, Shakespeare's doing

language at a whole another level. And so astrology is the same way. I just

gave you kinder astrology, which is still super powerful because like being

able to talk and communicate is super powerful no matter how you do it.

And the more you learn about it, the more like you get the more the

more closer, yes, the more closer you get to Shakespeare. I think it's great

that I butchered the English language with that.

I think it's a perfect example. I love it. But, yes, the the the more

you know, the closer you can be to Shakespearean Yeah. Astrology.

I may just call myself a Shakespearean astrologer from now on. Yeah. I

like it. No. I think too

that my initial I think what I found

so valuable about this is that, like, my initial view of astrology

was just like how did you phrase it

earlier? Like, the the woey, like, almost like tabloid y Yeah. Like culture.

Yes. Top top culture. There we go. Yes. Whereas, like, despite

being myself, I'm

I work in accounting. I like numbers. I like concrete things. I like

data. I like patterns. And so much of

this is just like it's pattern recognition and pattern

acknowledgement and then educating yourself on what these patterns may mean for you

based on your individual patterns. And I think looking at at it that way for

me made a really big difference in how

I'm adopting it into my life. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm the

most pragmatic well, this is what I say on my dating profiles. I'm I'm the

most pragmatic witch you will ever meet. And people are always like,

wait. What? Those two words do not go together. Like, oh,

but they can. Yes. And then, you know, the fun thing is that everybody

that works with me, pragmatic, all of them, because that's the kind of

astrology I do. And then, like, if you're not tactically minded, I'm probably not the

astrologer for you, because I don't do the relationship

feeling stuff. It's not it's not what I'm interested in.

I at all.

Right. It's very much like using this as a tool and using

this to plan,

which I think that that has been definitely the most beneficial for me to be

able to, like, block chunks of time up in my calendar for, like,

hey. Caitlin needs extra downtime now.

Or, hey. Things might be a little right now. Don't burn it

to the ground. It's this too is a phase. It shall pass.

Yeah. And, I mean, what's interesting is because there's so so many significations

with the houses and the planets and everything, like, I'm always playing the

odds, which is more math. Right? Like, I'm always playing the odds of what's

most likely to happen, but that doesn't mean it's the only thing that can happen,

which is the value of working with astrology a lot in

somebody's chart. Like, if why I empower people to do it for themselves

is because you will learn your patterns better than any

book, any software, any astrologer because I have one

I have one client whose 7th house, always, every

time it's activated, it's because he's having trouble at work. It's never a

partnership. It's never a relationship. It's always the open enemies part

of the 7th house. And so, like, whenever he has something go through there, if

it looks challenging, I'm like, I know what's about to happen because this happens over

and over and over again. Right? I'm never like, oh, you're gonna have a fight

with your nonexistent partner because, well, 1, he doesn't have a partner, and

2, that's just never what it is. And so that's the value of

long term analysis and paying attention to the cycles and the trends.

Right? And this is how I this is my gateway drug

and people see that it works. And then they're like, wait. You mean astrology's

real? What? I I

could have more behind behind the curtain information.

I do. I love saying I'm Morpheus.

I think that's a good way to put it. Yeah. Yes. Yes. So

that Why make it harder than it needs to be? For real. And, I

mean, I so we didn't say what, like, the fate and free will thing is,

but I I do believe that fate is real.

Okay? And so my premise is that things are predestined to happen, and the

free will component is that you get to choose your experience of

that. And so if if we know that you're gonna be working a lot,

if you're just planning that and if you if you had been planning a vacation,

and then you had to work, you'd have been your experience of it would have

sucked. Right? But if you're like, okay, I'm gonna be open to the possibility that

I might not hate working. Like, that's all you had to do, and your experience

has been great. Like, just that tiny little tiny little thing.

And so I do believe it's both, and that's the reason I think astrology works

so well is because you can see,

hey. This might be more challenging. Do I ever think that means don't do something?

No. I think that means that you're gonna have to work on your mindset if

you're going to execute it well. And so I have

a there's a person. I'm she's not my client yet.

I'm I'm holding space for one day for her to be my client so that

I can help her have an easier life. But,

she's a multi seven figure entrepreneur,

And whatever word means

the complete opposite of good astrological timing natively,

whatever that word is. Right? Like, it she's

Eprocious. Yeah. Oh my gosh. She's so bad. Like, if it's like

the opposite of a good election. It's like, hey. What's the worst possible day for

me to do this? And she will pick it for launches almost every single time.

It is the wildest thing I have ever seen. I mean, to the point where

I would like to, to like, when I hear that she's doing a launch, I

just go, I'm not doing anything that week because I already know.

I already have to go look at the calendar. I know it's gonna be bad.

And she's a multi seven figure business owner because

she manages her mind better than anybody I have ever seen. Like, she has the

coaching tools down and the thought work down. And so when she hits

those things that are challenging, she manages her mind and she

continues to move forward and continues to work through

the energy instead of just letting it stop her. And I

and that's another valuable thing

about understanding astrology deeply

is to never let it stop you from doing

something you really wanna do. Just be willing to do the work for it.

So have an open mind. Yeah. Well, yeah. So, like, when I say the 12th

house is probably gonna be hard, I'm not saying don't do anything. I'm saying you're

gonna need extra support to do the things that you wanna do.

Right? And also be maybe more naps.

Naps and support. Yeah. Oh, but also imagine what her launches could look like

for her, what her business could look like for her if she was, like,

even mid midway with better dates and better timing.

Yeah. You're just dying inside of the game. It kills me. It kills me so

much. And I'm not the I never I never solicit work. Right? And I'm

just like, somebody please tell her to let me help her. I'll do it

for free. Like, just it hurts my heart. Let

me help you, please, because I'm dying inside. It is a little

bit. Like, when I see her do something on an eclipse and a Mercury retrograde,

I'm like, why, though? Why why would why? Why? And it

completely bombed. She had to relaunch. I was like, yeah. She did a great

job. She made a ton of money off of it, but it was a cluster

situation.

And, yeah, and I like to avoid those. So I don't

watch during those windows because I don't wanna have to manage my mind that much.

I don't. I don't. I I want it to be easier for me. And

so Mhmm. Can I get through hard things? Yes. Do I

want to actively choose to put myself in those positions? No, I do not. So

I will not be expanding my business in my 12th house year. I've already got

a plan for what my 12th house year is gonna be, and it's gonna be

a lot of research as I pursue a PhD. Mhmm. Right?

And that's much more internal and not me having to be on stage, which

is more stressful for me. And because I know what my 12th I have

Virgo in my 12th house. It's very studious. My Mercury wants to be doing

that sort of thing. It'll be very relaxing and regulating for me.

Right? And and so that's the kind of thing

doesn't mean my business won't be running. It will be. But I won't

be doing the kind of work that I am now. Just like you won't be

doing the kind of work you're doing now. Right. Like, we already

have kinda mapped out your, like, kind of Next 2 years. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And that's part of what you're planning for now, which is

another way that you can, like, very easily Right. Exactly.

Look. Yeah. We're we're forecasting ahead. Like, hey, this is coming down the

pipeline based on what I'm wanting to do now. Like, what does that look like

so that you can be working with it instead of against it? Yeah.

And and it gives you the ability something that I think a lot of

entrepreneurs have difficulty with is planning

because their brains you can't be an entrepreneur and have a normal brain. Like, I

just don't think that even exists. And so normal

calendaring and scheduling and sticking to the, you know, the

beginning of the years in January and the end of the year, like, it's it

doesn't make sense for most entrepreneurs. Right? This is where

this this works for every entrepreneur I've ever put it in front of. It makes

them it makes their cycles make sense to them and why they

feel more like doing like, you feel more like being really active

in your business when every a lot of other people wanna be vacationing right now,

but it's because of the way that your chart's lined up. Right? And so people

don't have to resist that. And you

can just plan based on them and not based on an arbitrary

calendar that was made up by other humans.

Shocker. I know. No. I'm I'm

excited. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to the next Right

now. Little bit of time.

Oh, okay. So yeah. I was

just gonna say, I don't think we have time for the other ones. No. That

that's totally fine. So, Robin, I

think I follow you on Instagram, and I think everyone else should

follow you on Instagram because you put out a ton of really valuable content. I

actually check when I get online, I check yours first for the day. Just as

my little reminder of what what the day even though we, like, we we chat

about little brain. It's my little nudge of, like, hey, FYI.

Mhmm. So we'll make sure to link your Instagram, which is wicked

veracity. Correct? Wicked wicked.veracity. Funny thing. Wicked.veracity.

Okay. Yeah. I check my Instagram every morning too because I need the reminder because

I write it, like, a week ahead of time. Mhmm. And so I'm like, okay.

What is my day gonna look? Because I don't remember. And I put out an

email. Oh, I also have an email list that if if you want a weekly

test, you should definitely get on it. Yes. I do read that as

well. So we'll make sure to link both of those. And then where

like, if I wanted to dive more into all of this,

where do we need to go? Where does anyone listening need to go? Yeah.

So, I mean, Instagram pod I have a podcast with the Brassy podcast as

well, but I have a membership. The Crusade is specifically for entrepreneurs

to teach them how to do this, and we I do live mindset and astrological

coaching every week, in in my group, and we've have

workbooks where they can do where they learn it in a very practical, tangible

way. And you can learn all about it at wickedveracity.com backslash

crusade. Wonderful. We'll make sure to link all of that in the

notes. If there's anything that you could think of to leave

any of the listeners with some wisdom that you could impart?

Is there anything that you would tell them when it comes to astrology

and their business or their ventures?

There's a quote Mhmm. That is

probably not valid because you know how most quotes are, but the

quote goes, and I wanna say it was a Rockefeller that said it, but,

millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do.

And the reason astrology

was reserved for kings in the past is because

it's so powerful. And if you

really want to to strategically

benefit your business, I think it's one of the most powerful tools that

people can easily access. Right? Like, you

don't have to learn all of it. You just have to learn to pay attention

to a few cycles that aren't super complicated and

just even be and pay attention. Like, even get on my email list and pay

attention to the Instagram, and you could seriously

start to use it to your advantage immediately, and I don't

know why they wouldn't do it. Is that

how's that? Yeah. No. I think that was fantastic. I didn't mean to completely put

you on the spot there, but you absolutely delivered. That was

and that's I've I've heard that quote before, and it was always really intriguing to

me. But then it was, you know, the the pop culture version of astrology. I

was like, this this seems like bullshit. Like Well, it is. And so,

like, I am never advocating and you can I don't know if this is staying

in, but this can stay in because the other thing I'll say is what I

do is not what you're gonna see in Cosmo? Right? Like, that's not what I'm

doing. What I'm doing is very different, and I do predictive Hellenistic

astrology. And modern astrology is what was

created from the remnants of a tradition that was infinitely

powerful more powerful than what we've had access to and we've only

recovered the techniques like annual perfections in the last 30 years

as the primary and secondary sources were translated out of the original

Greek and the secondary sources were in Arabic. And those were the

only surviving copies because as the

Catholic church spread, they banned astrology,

not because it didn't work, which they would even say, but because it went against

God. And the text eventually fell out of

favor and so they were there were only there just weren't any in the modern

languages and it was just what people had remembered and passed down. And it

was still so powerful that it could change people's lives, and it was nothing

compared to what we can do now. Right. Just, yeah, the remnants of and it

was still Still make it and people were still like, there's something to this.

Right? Because, like, it was still so useful. And the fact and

we're still getting more and more techniques. Like, we have we have people who are

actively working to translate texts that have never been translated into

English. I'm actually the PhD that I'm working that I wanna that I want will

let me do that from for texts that are coming out of cuneiform, which has

even we have even less access to because the texts that have been

translated out of cuneiform, clearly, most historians don't really

care about the astrological and magical texts. They have not been a

priority. They will be my priority. And That'll be

really exciting. Yeah. I'm thrilled. Right? But, like, that's the kind

of research, and I do mean, like, really, truly. It's like academic research that's

going on to give us the techniques that we've lost access to. And and

so if if you were interested in astrology 20 years ago and you're like, that's

bull. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't predictive. Fair. Like

but that's not what I do. Mhmm. Mhmm. No. It's definitely different than

what I had anticipated, which was fluffier.

Yours is yours is the opposite of fluffy, which has

been really nice as someone that likes to take

action and have data. Yes. And it's replicable. So, like

and that's the other thing. It's, like, all of my super smart, strategic people are

like, wait a minute. Statistically, I don't think that could be

random. Yes. Exact like, yeah. We

we had a point where this is not just coincidental. Yes.

But that's what I love about astrology. And when people start working with it for

themselves and not just listening and being consumers of it, it becomes

obvious. And once it becomes obvious, then you start being able to do it for

yourself. I have somebody in the crusade who, at our weekly call this

week, said she's been in the crusade, I wanna say, I April may

change, like, 4 months maybe. And she's like, this is the 1st month

that I understood and I predicted accurately

based off of the workbook. Like, she went back to review because, you know, you

get it too. Right? Like, the, my workbook has a summary of what it's gonna

be, where it's gonna play out, and then I say, you predict and then you

come back and see what it was because that's part of learning, right, like what

your patterns are. And she's like, I got it. I mean, it wasn't exactly right,

but I got it. And that's what happened. And she was thrilled. And I was

I mean, I was I was so happy.

Proud teacher moment. It's because it's so easy to do for

yourself if you're trying because it is a science. It's not guesswork. It's not woo.

It's not metaphysical or parapsychological or anything. It's just, like,

you just follow the rules, and you plug in the words,

and it works. A plus b equals

c. Right. Even that's too complicated for me, but yes.

For my math brain, it's yeah. The the bare bones. But no. That's

that's fantastic. Thank you so

much. I'm really glad that we got to have you on here. You're gonna be

one of the first, I think, kickoff for the the relaunch.

So I'll make sure to drop everything in the notes. And,

Robin, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. It was absolutely

delightful, and I cannot wait to listen to every single podcast that you do.

That's a wrap for this episode of the Wealth Witches podcast. I hope our

magical money talks have left you feeling empowered and inspired.

Remember, wealth isn't just about dollars in the bank. It's about abundance and financial freedom

in

magical. Stay

magical. Hey there, magical

listener. Are you ready to take your financial journey to the next level? This

is Caitlin Magnuson inviting you to join us at the wealth which is monthly

program where we dive even deeper into the cauldron of wealth. From live

training sessions about money, taxes, retirement, and business support to an

inclusive community that's here to support your growth, we've got everything you

need to embrace your inner wealth witch. Visit our website at

wealthwitchesdot com to join us. Your wealthier self

is waiting.