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23rd October 2025 • Who You Callin’ Holistic? • Sheanah Rivers
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October 23, 2025

We're back! (pt 1)

I sat with Alex of Naked Astrology and we got into the podcast's HO-roscope, along with a couple submissions from the listeners

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Speaker A:

You are listening to who you call in holistic, the podcast that asks, what's your medicine?

Speaker A:

I'm Sheona Rivers, your healing arts specialist.

Speaker A:

Let's get into it.

Speaker A:

Who are you calling holistic?

Speaker A:

That's Sheona.

Speaker A:

Hi, it's Shianna.

Speaker A:

Welcome to.

Speaker A:

Who you calling holistic?

Speaker A:

First of all, why didn't anybody check up on me?

Speaker A:

All right, thanks.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I have a whole episode called the Strong Friend.

Speaker A:

Well, I know you guys see this person right here.

Speaker A:

We'll get into that in a minute.

Speaker A:

I have a whole episode called the Strong Friend and nobody thought to check up on me.

Speaker A:

I'm okay, obviously, but a lot has changed since we last spoke.

Speaker A:

So luckily I brought on a special guest today as well.

Speaker A:

Mainly because the first episode I recorded, I was in here and it didn't.

Speaker A:

It didn't transfer properly.

Speaker A:

So I already had this one scheduled and I was like, well, just.

Speaker A:

Just come on now this feels right.

Speaker A:

And we can.

Speaker A:

We can get into what we were gonna get into.

Speaker A:

And this makes sense anyway, so I'll get into some of the move and some of the updates on the timeline today.

Speaker A:

But also we got time for that because we're here now.

Speaker A:

So this is Alex.

Speaker B:

Hello.

Speaker B:

I am Alex.

Speaker A:

Alex, welcome.

Speaker A:

Thank you for coming on today.

Speaker B:

Choo choo.

Speaker A:

So obviously, like I mentioned, things have changed since we last spoke.

Speaker A:

The last episode we recorded, I was in South Carolina.

Speaker A:

I recorded with the owner of a salt cave.

Speaker A:

That's the last update everybody's had.

Speaker A:

I'm now in Chicago.

Speaker A:

Chicago.

Speaker B:

Welcome back.

Speaker B:

Chicago.

Speaker B:

Did you say welcome back to Chicago?

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Well, yeah, I'd only visited, but.

Speaker B:

I know, but still.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we missed you.

Speaker A:

Oh, thank you.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

I missed Chicago too.

Speaker A:

When I got to Chicago, I didn't have a job.

Speaker A:

I didn't even have, like, a job lined up.

Speaker A:

Everything was real loose, basically.

Speaker A:

Like, everything was loose, however, because the way my life is set up, I got hired on the spot during the spring equinox.

Speaker B:

Come on, astrology.

Speaker A:

Come on, astrology.

Speaker A:

Also very on brand for just me in general and the seasons, very witchy.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Which brings me to this lovely guest that I met after I got hired.

Speaker A:

So, Alex, their pronouns.

Speaker A:

Man, I've been having a time.

Speaker B:

I've been having.

Speaker A:

I've been having a time.

Speaker B:

But it's okay.

Speaker B:

I'm just a lovely butch queen.

Speaker A:

I'm here for it.

Speaker B:

Like, it's easy.

Speaker B:

It's easy.

Speaker A:

It's getting easier.

Speaker A:

But like, six time.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but like I've said, like, you're such a.

Speaker A:

A beautiful man, but it's like, it's manly, but it's also like, pretty.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Pretty man.

Speaker B:

Pretty man.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And that's why I say butch queen, because, you know, I'm not the most, like, femme presenting or anything.

Speaker B:

Most of the time I am not.

Speaker B:

But there are just the occasional times where I am.

Speaker B:

And that's what guided me to be more like of a.

Speaker B:

They be versus strictly he.

Speaker B:

Definitely not a strict she, but it works.

Speaker B:

The middle ground, right?

Speaker A:

It works.

Speaker A:

I'm here for it.

Speaker A:

So I met Alex and we immediately clicked because I was like, my gosh, Capricorn.

Speaker A:

Hey, Capricorn friend.

Speaker A:

And you know, I love a Capricorn.

Speaker A:

And we got into some of my chart stuff and we talked about other chart stuff over.

Speaker A:

Over the few months that we've known each other.

Speaker A:

And then I mentioned I had my podcast and I was like, I know I need to pick a date.

Speaker A:

It was on my.

Speaker A:

It was on my radar.

Speaker A:

But first of all, I couldn't find a place to record that wasn't like $300, by the way.

Speaker B:

So this, this was a blessing surprising for, like, Chicago.

Speaker B:

I. I feel like that would be an easier journey, something, because it's not like New York, where there's all these influencers and everything, or like Los Angeles, you know, it's somewhere in the middle.

Speaker B:

And that's where I would.

Speaker B:

That's why I feel there should be something like this.

Speaker B:

But you found that.

Speaker B:

I found it resourceful.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Yes, that I am.

Speaker A:

And so we're here now.

Speaker B:

We are here now.

Speaker A:

And I was like, hey, could you have a look at this and help me pick out a date?

Speaker A:

Because I knew I needed a date, but I was like, I'm having a time with it.

Speaker A:

So before we even get into that, because I also brought you on for some additional support, which you guys are going to love.

Speaker A:

Horoscopes.

Speaker A:

Before we get into all of that, what got you into astrology?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

So I was kind of brought into a family that is more like spiritual and woo woo.

Speaker B:

And that kind of set the precedents for me to explore other just esoteric.

Speaker B:

Esoteric and just occult type of practices.

Speaker B:

And even though I feel like astrology is the melding of math and spirituality, my journey kind of started about almost a decade ago.

Speaker B:

Oh, actually over a decade ago.

Speaker B:

I was miscalculating.

Speaker B:

Um, and it just started with me wanting to understand myself better.

Speaker B:

Uh, and, you know, I just pulled up my birth chart and started exploring, like, why I had sort of a certain feelings or just why was life playing out the way that it was playing out.

Speaker B:

And that kind of just started this deep dive of like, oh, there's this whole cosmic reasoning or just a way to just understand it that is just outside of, I don't know, your family, because I have a fourth house stellium.

Speaker B:

So it's like I have this large focus on my roots and my family and my, like, the women in my life and my parents in general because it's in Capricorn.

Speaker B:

So I just always wanted to understand more.

Speaker B:

And I would go to my family and there'd be these conflicting views on everything.

Speaker B:

So when I got into astrology, it helped me take the pieces that made the most sense and then picture or just put it all together to make a picture that made sense to me and just aligned with what everyone was saying.

Speaker B:

So I then knew like what was fact and then what was kind of just like people's own recollection and their little twist to the story, you know, And.

Speaker B:

Yeah, and that just led me to reading everyone's chart, you know.

Speaker A:

And then we've talked about like the difference in utilizing like Placidus versus whole sign.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And you have a preference.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So when it comes to just like general readings and understanding, I like to use whole sign because it's more just clear cut.

Speaker B:

And it also shows people that they have all 12 zodiac signs in their chart and it shows how those signs impact that person as a whole, while Placidus houses can be intercepted.

Speaker B:

So you could have your fifth and sixth house starting in Aries or something of that sort versus having Aries and Taurus.

Speaker B:

So that's why I kind of more so enjoy that.

Speaker B:

But whole sign is great for predicting, and then Placidus is great for understanding someone's personality and their more intrinsic beliefs and thoughts and just what's going on in that realm of their world.

Speaker A:

Makes sense.

Speaker A:

And I did have one other astrologer, astrologer and numerologist actually on the podcast before.

Speaker A:

And I had even mentioned to you we were having a conversation about being in more spaces with more people who looked like you.

Speaker A:

And I was like, it felt kind of, kind of like having a unicorn on the show because I was like, I have a black man that's an astrologer and he knows his shit too.

Speaker A:

And I was like, like they exist, you know, so.

Speaker A:

But it's nice to keep being introduced to them, apparently.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm here to, I'm here to highlight and help showcase your.

Speaker A:

Your skills.

Speaker B:

I love it.

Speaker B:

I feel like it's so necessary to bring just different people together and, you know, show that you are not alone in this journey.

Speaker B:

And I might not be the one for you, but there is one out there that is, you know.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

But we're all brought here together today because we're all on the same frequency.

Speaker B:

So I look forward to that.

Speaker A:

Yay.

Speaker A:

And this wasn't even planned, this outfit situation.

Speaker B:

So blue is everywhere today, and I love it.

Speaker B:

But it's also Monday moon day, so I. I had to throw in my blues and my whites, you know, and you're.

Speaker A:

I'm cancer rising and you're a cancer moon.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So I love a good Monday.

Speaker B:

I was born on a Monday.

Speaker B:

Everyone else hates Mondays, but same.

Speaker A:

But I'm usually off on Mondays, so.

Speaker B:

Which I love for you.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

I need my Mondays off.

Speaker A:

You do.

Speaker A:

You can make it happen.

Speaker B:

No, I truly can.

Speaker A:

You can make it happen.

Speaker A:

So before we get into our submissions for our horoscopes, I wanted to share because I was familiar with having predictive astrology readings for other events, because I've even looked into some of that for my own personal chart stuff like, let me navigate with this.

Speaker A:

Let me not sign a contract with this happening, and different things like that.

Speaker B:

That's real.

Speaker A:

And I knew that it was doable because I've even heard of people getting their Akashic records done on their businesses.

Speaker A:

So I knew it was doable for businesses and, like, abstract things to an extent.

Speaker A:

But, like, it didn't hit me until this year, obviously, that I was like, oh, shit, let me have one done for the podcast.

Speaker A:

So could you give some people some insight on why this is the time to re release it?

Speaker A:

And I was even thinking, like, not much about my podcast is changing.

Speaker A:

You know, obviously I'm adding this segment because it's necessary, and I feel like it's fun.

Speaker A:

But it's still very much like, I'm still talking to the same people.

Speaker A:

You know, my audience will expand, but the people are very much.

Speaker A:

The majority are women.

Speaker A:

And that's even based on, like, my stuff.

Speaker A:

Not necessarily the podcast stuff, but you pull the podcast stuff, and it was aligned with that too.

Speaker A:

But it's majority women, 25 to 45, and they're usually going through some sort of shift, pivot, identity, career, relationship, something.

Speaker A:

They're either in the thick of it or, like, about to be.

Speaker A:

There's some sort of shift happening right when I enter their lives in some capacity.

Speaker A:

So could you share a little more about, like, the podcast essence?

Speaker A:

Basically?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

So, also, Alex, can't stop looking at themself on the camera.

Speaker B:

What signs.

Speaker A:

I get it, I get it.

Speaker B:

I see same, same you looking at me, looking at me, looking at the camera.

Speaker A:

It's fine.

Speaker B:

But nonetheless, it also is nice to like see her because then I feel like I'm watching as the viewer.

Speaker A:

Oh, thank you.

Speaker B:

You know, how do I look?

Speaker B:

Wonderful.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Perfect.

Speaker B:

I'm mostly not even staring at myself.

Speaker B:

Just every time she talks I'm like, yes.

Speaker B:

But so October 23rd was a great day for the podcast for a plethora of different reasons.

Speaker B:

I can't even really just hone in on just one that makes it great.

Speaker B:

It was just like everything in the chart was aligning for that specific day.

Speaker A:

You know, and for context, I did say like when you were starting, I was like, I know it needs to be like probably October, November.

Speaker A:

And then you were like, well, let me look.

Speaker A:

And then I was like, what day of the week is that?

Speaker A:

Because I usually release episodes on Thursdays.

Speaker A:

And we looked and we were like, oh, it's a Thursday.

Speaker B:

Come on.

Speaker B:

Jupiter expansion.

Speaker B:

Because she's expanding Yalls minds.

Speaker B:

And you know, the podcast just.

Speaker B:

She said no, the podcast.

Speaker B:

I hope I have that look up there too.

Speaker A:

Okay, that's all right.

Speaker B:

The podcast just has a lot of planetary influence going on during that time like Pluto's transiting Saturn, Uranus and Jupiter.

Speaker B:

And they're all just working together to push towards greater self expression and understanding.

Speaker B:

And for a podcast that is just built on that and that's its main purpose, I was just like, there is no better time than this because not only is the podcast just expanding and just in a way working on itself and having that self development, it will also have that impact on those who are involved.

Speaker B:

So like watching on the podcast, in charge of the podcast, it's mother, you know, it will kind of have that universal growth for just everyone involved.

Speaker B:

And it really just shows a lot of breakthroughs when it comes to all, just all the projects that it will, will involve and just building these lasting, just achievements and potentially just go as far as it's meant to go and as you are willing to like take it.

Speaker B:

So when it comes to this relaunching, it's like you're repotting it, right?

Speaker B:

You know, it's like it was in this pot and you notice it wasn't growing much and you're just like the roots need more, more space.

Speaker B:

So this is now like putting it just in a larger pot that allows those roots to settle in.

Speaker B:

I'm in A different way and expand so much further so it can build and grow into this just beautiful thing.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I love that for us.

Speaker B:

Likewise.

Speaker A:

And one of the things I was telling somebody recently was like, I got a.

Speaker A:

Basically a collaborative partnership with Cured, which you've seen me post about.

Speaker A:

And I feel like those gummies.

Speaker A:

Yes, I feel like.

Speaker A:

And they have these immune system building capsules to rise is what I used.

Speaker A:

And I was like, I'm so grateful that I got that at the beginning of the year because lion's mane and stuff is good for nervous system regulation.

Speaker A:

And I was like, with all the shifts that I had, thank God I had some support there.

Speaker A:

But you even mentioned that this podcast was going to be good for collaborative efforts and collaborations, generally speaking.

Speaker B:

No, exactly.

Speaker B:

And that's because it has a lot of involvement with like Jupiter and Its just 11th house and with those like, strong aspects, as you mentioned, it does just assist with bringing more like balanced patience and building out that.

Speaker B:

That a community and hopefully you know, just taking everyone that tunes in where they need to go, whether it's just planting a seed or watering the thoughts that they already know and they just need that extra like, push and reminder.

Speaker B:

It will serve that, that person, that purpose for the people that it comes across, you know, and just leaving that beautiful, just impact.

Speaker A:

I love that.

Speaker B:

Gotta love Daddy Jupiter.

Speaker A:

Yes, Daddy Saturn's another story.

Speaker A:

But I mean, I know a little.

Speaker B:

A little restraint, a little persistence, a little discipline.

Speaker B:

Discipline, it goes a long way.

Speaker A:

It does, it does.

Speaker A:

But I get a lot.

Speaker B:

Same, same.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's another thing.

Speaker B:

But one thing I told my friend when I just had a cat and I was training my cat, which it was a black cat.

Speaker B:

So black cats are ruled by Saturn today.

Speaker A:

Years old today.

Speaker B:

Years old, yes.

Speaker B:

Is.

Speaker B:

I mean, this isn't the best term, but a little trauma goes a long way.

Speaker A:

That sounds like some shit she harnesses.

Speaker B:

You know, and my cat just at first did not like the harness, did not like the leash, did not want to go outside.

Speaker B:

But bit by bit, like just exposing them to that got them more comfortable and shown and just showed them a level of, of like freedom they never had before, you know, so sometimes things feel terrible, but they are.

Speaker B:

They're preparing you for something greater.

Speaker B:

And I said, a little bit, that is the key.

Speaker B:

A little bit.

Speaker B:

Nothing crazy, you know, nothing drastic.

Speaker B:

Not like the park, but, you know, that's fair.

Speaker B:

Just a little bit of drama.

Speaker B:

Just a little bit low.

Speaker A:

Razzle dazzle.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

A little razzle dazzle.

Speaker A:

That's fair.

Speaker B:

That's my first bite.

Speaker B:

Besties.

Speaker A:

So one of the other things that I did was I was sharing with people that I was having this new segment of horoscopes.

Speaker A:

And, you know, I didn't.

Speaker A:

I didn't want to, like, label it as any sort of, like, we are only going to talk about this part of your astrology.

Speaker A:

Or like, other people are like, well, I would want to know about the sex with it.

Speaker A:

And I was like, I get that too.

Speaker A:

However, like, let me just leave it open enough and then ask where people wanted more clarity.

Speaker A:

Because the other thing that I had asked you was like, what lights you up when you talk about these things in people's charts?

Speaker A:

And, like, if I'm having guests on here, I want them talking about the things that light them up.

Speaker A:

Not just like the.

Speaker A:

Let me, you know, check this off.

Speaker A:

Like, just because it's here, you know, like the things that actually light you up that you could talk about for hours and see, you're already.

Speaker A:

So you're like, yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.

Speaker B:

Literally.

Speaker A:

So our first submission, Jilly has questions about her.

Speaker B:

Not so much.

Speaker B:

I love that.

Speaker A:

What'd you say?

Speaker B:

Jilly from Philly, but not so much.

Speaker A:

Oh, right, right.

Speaker A:

This one's not from Philly.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Um, but she has questions about her community.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So Jilly.

Speaker B:

Jilly baby.

Speaker B:

Jilly Bean.

Speaker B:

Sorry, I need to pull up your chart.

Speaker B:

I do have it, I swear.

Speaker B:

Okay, so one thing.

Speaker B:

So Jilly mentioned community, and was it just connecting more so community building?

Speaker A:

I think, with that placement.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So, Julie, they want to know more about community building with their.

Speaker B:

Aries and their.

Speaker B:

Or just aries ruling their 11th house.

Speaker B:

So wherever you have Mars ruling specifically Aries, it kind of gives you this, like, Newfoundland, like just energy.

Speaker B:

You're.

Speaker B:

You're kind of approaching things with this more a night, this more naive type of mindset.

Speaker B:

Because, like, in this instance, you might not fully understand everything going on or how to do this thing.

Speaker B:

But also with Aries there, you.

Speaker B:

Wherever Aries is ruling, you tend to face a lot of aggression unknowingly.

Speaker B:

And you're just like, what is going on here?

Speaker B:

Like, what is this?

Speaker B:

And I feel like that is a really big piece of information to consider when you're looking at any house, Aries rules, because it will make sense why you encounter just certain types of people or why the people you consider like, you love the most might be acting.

Speaker B:

I'm just a certain type of way.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So for Jilli from Philly, not so Much.

Speaker B:

Your Mars is in Gemini ruling this just 11th house.

Speaker B:

So having Mars in your first house and you're looking for how to build community, it'd be really important to kind of find people who are more similar to you.

Speaker B:

You.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

People who are just as driven, just as eager to like people who have that drive for, for life and just approach things with this more curiosity and not necessarily like intellectualism, but they, they tend to think about things just a bit more.

Speaker B:

Their, their, their actions are more a con.

Speaker B:

Precise, you know, and they're considering what they're doing as they're doing it.

Speaker B:

And sometimes they do just dive in, just head first.

Speaker B:

And that can also help you especially if you are currently going through anything that might, might be stumping you in that way.

Speaker B:

So when it comes to building community, I would look at maybe fitness classes, something that is, that is intellectually stimulating and physically active.

Speaker B:

So maybe like an escape room type of situation.

Speaker B:

Just go by yourself.

Speaker B:

Don't invest in the stock market.

Speaker B:

That's just a random Note 6 and.

Speaker A:

I do know, I know this isn't on there, but I know this particularly about this person.

Speaker A:

I do know she's also a 6:2 in human design for context.

Speaker A:

Okay, so I feel like she.

Speaker B:

Is she a manifester?

Speaker B:

No, no.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I think.

Speaker A:

Oh, I don't remember.

Speaker B:

That's real.

Speaker A:

Might be generator.

Speaker A:

Don't.

Speaker A:

Don't quote me.

Speaker B:

No 6 2.

Speaker A:

But it's the role model hermit.

Speaker A:

So then I'm like, oh, the hermit.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

So I'm like, I wonder if it's also like she's building that community that like because that was it for me.

Speaker A:

Like I wanted to be a part of different communities but they didn't exist.

Speaker A:

So it was like, oh, I have to be the one building this, this one kind of thing.

Speaker A:

Does that make sense?

Speaker B:

Yeah, no, I'm absolutely.

Speaker B:

Potentially they are.

Speaker B:

I would more so see like quick cycles through things.

Speaker B:

Like this person is constantly changing and they have so much like depth and various interests.

Speaker B:

Like it might be hard to like focus down on one.

Speaker B:

Like they potentially have like ADHD or something and they're just like I want it all, you know, Especially with their Mars making a, a sextile.

Speaker B:

Not a major one very minor to their mercury in Leo.

Speaker B:

So this person like this is just giving bold action.

Speaker B:

Like they need both friends to meet them where they are, but lots of different friends.

Speaker B:

So go where people are pouring into you and you get to show off a little bit.

Speaker A:

I could see that.

Speaker B:

And get the recognition you might be wanting and craving in A way you do have a Leo stellium and your Venus is also in Leo, which is, which is essentially that's your highest degree placement.

Speaker B:

So when it comes to relate to relationships, you probably have a great relationship just with your siblings.

Speaker B:

And that might be where you need to start looking, especially more locally, like where your home is, if they still live there.

Speaker B:

Do they still live where they were born or No?

Speaker A:

I think so.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, so, you know, go around town a bit more and look for places that, you know, highlight your just interest and frequent those places.

Speaker B:

You know, like Aries can be quick to give up because things aren't happening fast enough.

Speaker B:

Same with Mars in the first house.

Speaker B:

So, like, there are two things kind of working against this person.

Speaker B:

But like when you go out and like frequent places, I would say look for the people somewhat similar to your siblings.

Speaker B:

Like just all the good things you like about them.

Speaker B:

If you have any, if not your like brothers and sisters, you're like cousins and whatnot.

Speaker B:

And that's kind of where I would point them to find community.

Speaker B:

And building a community is places where they get to kind of show off people that are just as bold and gung ho and willing to live life and who are just motivated and ambitious and just have that drive to match your own in whatever you're doing.

Speaker B:

And it's not just like you don't need a singular community.

Speaker B:

You know, like, it's okay to have friends in everything or one friend for just everything.

Speaker B:

Or not one friend for everything, but one friend in just everything.

Speaker A:

Yeah, different, like pockets of.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

Because Gemini Rising, babe, you can bring the masses together if you wanted to, but when you go out and meet those friends, you will then be able to make friend groups from that.

Speaker B:

Because one thing about a Gemini Rising is that's like their super power of just connecting people who they didn't like.

Speaker B:

People don't necessarily think will that.

Speaker B:

And that's a part of Gemini being ruled by or just being represented by the lovers in Tarot, you know, that union and.

Speaker B:

Yeah, okay.

Speaker B:

But also people like you or your siblings that like people that feel like.

Speaker A:

I hope that helps Jilly.

Speaker A:

And what you were even saying about like the communities, like several.

Speaker A:

I think people forget that that's an option.

Speaker A:

Like, we talk about community and community building, but I think people forget, like, it's not just one that you get to be a part of.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Because I had different pockets in South Carolina, but even here I'm building different pockets.

Speaker A:

So, like, I didn't expect to have like a Gym community in my life that was not on my bingo card at all.

Speaker A:

And then I have, like, my astrology people community.

Speaker A:

I have my human design community.

Speaker A:

I have my.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

There's like, different pockets of that.

Speaker A:

And then it's.

Speaker A:

It's okay to have various options within those, literally.

Speaker B:

And that's why I love the I'm just expression that it takes a community to raise a child, because that extends into your I'm just adulthood, you know, like, it doesn't.

Speaker B:

Like, you will always need a community there for, like, you need more than your family or just your partner or your best friend, because not a single person can just cater to just all of your needs.

Speaker B:

You need to make sure that responsibility is spread out.

Speaker B:

You know, not too thin.

Speaker B:

Not too thin now, but just enough to where just all of you is.

Speaker A:

Covered and you feel fulfilled leaving them.

Speaker A:

Not drained.

Speaker B:

Fulfilled fulfillment.

Speaker A:

Because there's a difference.

Speaker B:

Please be fulfilled.

Speaker A:

Because sometimes we end up in communities that, like, we just happen.

Speaker A:

Like it's happenstance.

Speaker A:

And then it's like, this one drains the fuck out of me.

Speaker B:

But you have the right to leave.

Speaker A:

Yep, yep.

Speaker B:

To the left.

Speaker B:

To the left.

Speaker B:

It's just take your box and just go free yourself.

Speaker B:

You always.

Speaker B:

The best thing about life, best and worst thing, it's in your hands.

Speaker A:

It is.

Speaker A:

It sounds like some shit.

Speaker A:

She on a.

Speaker A:

Says.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

There's.

Speaker A:

There's always a choice.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

There's always a choice.

Speaker B:

Make the right one.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And that varies.

Speaker A:

That varies from time to time also.

Speaker A:

So, like, you know, and then we have.

Speaker A:

Latora is your next horoscope, and she has questions about her career.

Speaker B:

Yes, Latora.

Speaker A:

And I love that people are participating in this because I can just see this being real fun.

Speaker A:

And I can see.

Speaker B:

I can't wait.

Speaker A:

I know, I know.

Speaker A:

Also, this is.

Speaker A:

I already said to Alex that they were going to be easy to have on as a guest because this is just.

Speaker A:

We already had a rapport and it's just.

Speaker A:

It's probably that some phrase that you use that I don't know in astrology.

Speaker A:

Whatever our cancer says.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker A:

That.

Speaker A:

Yes, we have good synastry or some shit.

Speaker B:

We do.

Speaker B:

We do.

Speaker B:

Latora, it was career.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Not you.

Speaker B:

Just generally career, which is slay.

Speaker B:

Side side note, you have the same birthday as my nephew, which I love.

Speaker B:

So, Latora.

Speaker B:

So Sagittarius is your tenth house.

Speaker B:

So when.

Speaker B:

When you're generally looking at career, you tend to look at whatever, like just the second, sixth, and tenth houses.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And these actually, these are the money making houses.

Speaker B:

And yours are all, all fire signs.

Speaker B:

So your second house is an Aries, which.

Speaker B:

Which we kind of just touched on a bit earlier, which is ruled by your sixth house, Mars.

Speaker B:

Okay, so career is not easy for you.

Speaker B:

Starting off the bat, you are a very hard worker.

Speaker B:

Very hard.

Speaker B:

I know you put in the work.

Speaker B:

Okay, but that's so close.

Speaker B:

I know that butt was loud.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

I know that butt was loud.

Speaker B:

They were like, oh, my ear.

Speaker A:

No, this is me editing it later.

Speaker A:

So yeah, back up off my.

Speaker A:

To prevent me from doing all the work.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of editing.

Speaker B:

I'm already loud.

Speaker B:

Honestly, it was fine when it was far away, but she was like, no, it needs to be close there.

Speaker B:

And I was like, it's fine.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker B:

It's fine.

Speaker A:

We'll work it out.

Speaker B:

I'm so sorry, Latour.

Speaker B:

Let me focus on you.

Speaker B:

Let me focus on you because this is about you, honey.

Speaker B:

And okay, so you are a hard worker, but you having Mars in your like ruling your.

Speaker B:

Your second house means you kind of have this whole burned in your pocket, right?

Speaker B:

You sometimes you're just not the best with money all the time.

Speaker B:

You're willing to spend money on the things you like.

Speaker B:

So I would say be mindful.

Speaker B:

It starts with like, when you get money, be mindful of your spending habits and be more intentional with that.

Speaker B:

That does take time.

Speaker B:

It's not easy, but you can do it.

Speaker B:

You can do it.

Speaker B:

Then connecting this to your Mars in your sixth house, you might have more friction with your co workers and your daily routine, you're willing to execute it.

Speaker B:

You will have a routine on lock.

Speaker B:

But when it comes to your daily life, even potentially your health, there is friction there.

Speaker B:

You might have like migraines and whatnot or just something going on.

Speaker B:

I would say like just in your head, maybe heart issues.

Speaker B:

So be mindful of that.

Speaker B:

That's not what you asked about.

Speaker B:

Sorry.

Speaker B:

That's why I get.

Speaker B:

I'm like, let me focus while you're.

Speaker A:

Getting into it though.

Speaker A:

Like, I want to because I feel like I have the understanding with the fiery part when you mention the money, is it because it is fire?

Speaker A:

So it's like in and out quickly.

Speaker B:

For Mars.

Speaker B:

It's not because it's fire.

Speaker B:

It's because Mars is destructive.

Speaker A:

Got it.

Speaker B:

So Mars is willing to just spend it, but kind of in this a situation we can say like fire and just burn it up.

Speaker A:

Got it.

Speaker B:

Because Mars is hot.

Speaker B:

It's hot and dry.

Speaker B:

You Know it's like we're in a.

Speaker A:

Mars year right now and look at what the fuck is going on.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

You know.

Speaker B:

And yeah, so I went to the aspects to see what exactly your Mars is aspecting and what it's making just things to.

Speaker B:

So it does trine your neptune in your 10th house which can make you a bit more like wasteful action.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

You might do these grand things that feel like you're doing something significant but then potentially not.

Speaker B:

So you have to be aware of how you're exerting your, your, your energy and it's not going to things that don't help what you want to do just overall.

Speaker B:

Oh, so these other squares don't.

Speaker B:

The other two squares are to your Lilith and Chiron which these are just asteroids.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Just asteroids.

Speaker B:

Where are these asteroids?

Speaker B:

Well one is in your, your tenth house, Lilith.

Speaker B:

So when people see you, people probably fall in love with you quickly because you do have Venus in your tenth house and Lilith.

Speaker B:

So people probably see you and I mean do you know what they do?

Speaker B:

Well if you, if you want to do selling people fantasies.

Speaker B:

So if you want to work in sales that could be really good.

Speaker B:

If you want to do, if you want to sell, sell something else.

Speaker A:

Stop that.

Speaker A:

Okay, that would be good.

Speaker A:

Spiritual medium, intuitive reader.

Speaker B:

Oh okay.

Speaker A:

Sound, healing, meditation, massage, esthetician.

Speaker B:

Okay, that I'm esthetician.

Speaker B:

Makes sense.

Speaker B:

Where's your Mercury?

Speaker B:

Oh you also had the Venus and Jupiter mutual reception and your Mercury.

Speaker B:

Oh no that, that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker B:

I would say when it come you can stay on that journey but if you're looking for more like something to keep you afloat while you are working on these other ventures if they're not faring well presently get, get into sales because sales aligns with those things indirectly because you or just learn about, about sales.

Speaker B:

I'm just a bit bit more and learn about the sales lifecycle so you're able to you know, really hook your customers on your products and just get them out there more, more effectively.

Speaker B:

One thing I tell everyone is marketing just as key.

Speaker B:

When I started my own business I did not market.

Speaker B:

I wasn't marketing nothing, you know and I was just expecting everything to fall into my lap and it's like you have to market, you have to plant the seed of what you like do and put that out there so then people can come to you.

Speaker B:

So Gianna pulled up that that information fairly just easily.

Speaker B:

So I do assume that you just have it out there for the world to see.

Speaker B:

But push that talk about it go.

Speaker B:

Go to places where those things are like more sought after and you know, keep pushing for it.

Speaker B:

If you do like the sound healing, you know.

Speaker B:

Do I. I would say that I'm definitely connect with Shiana and see what she has done to like push that.

Speaker B:

Because you did the sound healing pool thing just at the apartment.

Speaker B:

She's been doing sound healing here also.

Speaker B:

A virtual services is really good if you want to sell an e book.

Speaker B:

But like using your face, going out to network.

Speaker B:

You got that in the bag.

Speaker B:

You got that Ms. Venus in the.

Speaker B:

Ms. Venus in the 10th house.

Speaker A:

Well, I was gonna say.

Speaker A:

And I know you don't.

Speaker A:

You don't have her Instagram.

Speaker A:

Like you don't know what this person looks like or anything.

Speaker A:

But, um, Latoura, we need to see you.

Speaker A:

Like I'm looking at your Instagram page and I don't know if there's maybe you're more active somewhere else in person actually, or on Facebook or tik.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

But like you are here to be seen.

Speaker B:

You are definitely here to be seen.

Speaker B:

You are definitely here to be be seen.

Speaker B:

No matter how you feel about yourself.

Speaker B:

I know just having Mars Mars ruling your second house.

Speaker B:

Excuse me.

Speaker B:

That.

Speaker B:

That can be.

Speaker B:

That can be tougher, right?

Speaker B:

Because you're confident.

Speaker B:

You're either like one of the most confident people and just like your shit does not stink or if you're not that, we need to fix it.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Because Aries in the second we need to fix.

Speaker B:

You need to be.

Speaker B:

I'm the best.

Speaker B:

And Venus with lilith in the 10th house.

Speaker B:

You are going.

Speaker B:

And Neptune.

Speaker B:

I'm sorry, you're ethereal.

Speaker B:

Like people will see you and love you.

Speaker B:

Especially if you are doing something virtually.

Speaker B:

Your online presence will be glorious.

Speaker B:

Especially since only your Neptune is making aspects to the rest of your.

Speaker B:

Your chart.

Speaker B:

I do understand why you're in the esoteric things.

Speaker B:

And then if you even want to do beauty a more so you know, and helping people find their confidence, that could also work for you because the way you make money is through other people.

Speaker B:

Since you do have an eighth house Stellium, other people's resources are your resources and whatever you gain from that is yours.

Speaker B:

So put yourself out there.

Speaker B:

Help as many people as you can.

Speaker B:

The right people.

Speaker B:

The right people.

Speaker B:

Because I'm sure a lot of people just approach you and tell you things, even take that like.

Speaker B:

Because I know you got some good stories.

Speaker B:

Especially as an just esthetician.

Speaker B:

I know you got some good stories.

Speaker A:

I mean, that's how I ended up making money with a Lot of the things.

Speaker A:

Because people just would tell me things and it's like, actually, let's set up.

Speaker A:

Let's set up a session for this.

Speaker B:

Let's set up a session.

Speaker A:

Because time is.

Speaker A:

My time is valuable.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

You can also put it on like Reddit and then make those little videos of.

Speaker B:

Of like story times, but use different names and everything.

Speaker B:

That's also a good one, you know, but people would send you their.

Speaker B:

Their stories and whatnot, so you can tell.

Speaker B:

Tell them.

Speaker B:

But being online would work.

Speaker B:

Just anything with you.

Speaker B:

Being seen and networking will work well.

Speaker B:

And anything that allows you to use your.

Speaker B:

Just your ambition, you know, like, don't, don't, don't.

Speaker B:

Don't succumb to just anything that.

Speaker B:

That tells you.

Speaker B:

No, because no, it truly should never be an answer for you.

Speaker B:

Like, this is not the end of it.

Speaker B:

Huh?

Speaker A:

With fine print.

Speaker B:

With fine print.

Speaker B:

With fine print.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Read that twice too.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But yeah, yay.

Speaker B:

And I really hope that helped.

Speaker B:

And if not, y' all can always reach out to me and be like, okay, thank you so much.

Speaker B:

However, I need a little bit more insight on this aspect of it, and I can do that.

Speaker B:

You, you know, just hit up nugget Astrology.

Speaker B:

I haven't posted in a bit, but I always answer DMs.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, and I'll have all your info tagged anyway, so.

Speaker A:

And we've already talked.

Speaker A:

It's funny that Alex is talking about being visible, because we've had that conversation too.

Speaker A:

But in saying that I am 10,000 for people that don't know these things, 10th house is.

Speaker B:

10Th house is your legacy.

Speaker B:

So it's your legacy, your career.

Speaker B:

It is also your father.

Speaker B:

And any placements in the 10th house are the most visible.

Speaker B:

Typically there are just exceptions of that.

Speaker B:

So I kind of base it off.

Speaker B:

Like, I mean, that is generally the case because it's the highest point in your chart or just house in your chart.

Speaker B:

But if your MC does not fall in your 10th house, because your MC is the highest point in your chart.

Speaker B:

So anything conjunct that those are your highest planets and those are the most visible outwardly.

Speaker B:

So for me, that's my moon.

Speaker B:

And no matter what I do, people will always see my emotions and how I'm feeling over everything else.

Speaker B:

Now, there are some people who cannot because I do have a moon, Pluto aspect.

Speaker B:

So we know how to, you know, but shut it down real quick.

Speaker B:

But if I'm like, feeling like, strong emotions, you will know that.

Speaker B:

Like, because when I'm happy, I'm happy.

Speaker B:

You Know when I'm sad, I'm.

Speaker B:

But that's also the perks and benefits of a cancer moon is I get to feel all of my.

Speaker B:

My feelings and be in those feelings.

Speaker B:

Holy.

Speaker B:

And then I get to next feeling or next emotion.

Speaker B:

So with you like Venus.

Speaker B:

I wish I had Venus in the 10th house.

Speaker A:

You know, I don't even know where my.

Speaker A:

Oh no, I think my Venus is in my.

Speaker A:

Yeah, my Venus is in my seventh.

Speaker B:

House, which is cute too.

Speaker B:

That's luxury.

Speaker B:

Like it makes sense.

Speaker B:

Venus being in those like one above the just horizon is generally like very cutesy.

Speaker B:

It being anywhere solid typically.

Speaker B:

But like 7th and 10th especially are really nice because 10th you're just seeing like everyone sees you and will fall in love with you.

Speaker B:

Like people will want to like engage and work with you and just think you're like a wonderful person.

Speaker B:

And then just in the seventh house that attracts a lot of luxury into one's life.

Speaker B:

A lot of great, great experiences.

Speaker B:

And what you bring out of people when it's in the seventh house is those.

Speaker B:

Those Venusian aspects.

Speaker B:

And that is what makes people really want to give those luxurious things to people with.

Speaker B:

With Venus in the seventh house is that because what you're bringing out is that love, that desire, that romance and all of those great.

Speaker A:

Aspects.

Speaker B:

Aspects and themes.

Speaker A:

Yep, that makes sense.

Speaker A:

I'm here for it.

Speaker B:

And also the bad.

Speaker B:

So sometimes they're a bit more lusted after.

Speaker B:

Sometimes they're like both.

Speaker B:

Actually someone might think you're being a little siren, especially Ms. Venus conjunct Lilith, which in the 10th house.

Speaker B:

But use that to your benefit.

Speaker B:

That's also why I said if you want.

Speaker A:

I made a.

Speaker A:

During my birthday we did a like a group you can make your own perfume situation.

Speaker A:

And it was on my birthday this past year was on a new moon, which I love that for me too.

Speaker A:

And when we were making the perfumes I was like, well let me set intentions with it because that felt right.

Speaker A:

And some of the intentions were like magnetism and love and stuff like that.

Speaker A:

But one of the perfume names that I had because I had two, one was Ethereal Smoke, very on brand.

Speaker A:

But the other one, Siren.

Speaker B:

Yes, I love that.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

So I got to ask you because you know, I know it's been a while so maybe people have forgotten.

Speaker A:

But I do like to ask my guests, even though Alex will be back to co host with me again.

Speaker A:

So you may not have to answer this question again or maybe because it might be switched up next time.

Speaker A:

We'll see.

Speaker A:

We'll play it by ear.

Speaker A:

You know, we can change it up because it's my show and I can do that.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Period.

Speaker A:

What's your medicine?

Speaker B:

My medicine?

Speaker B:

That is a great question.

Speaker B:

And I was informed of this question before I came here.

Speaker A:

However, they had time to think about it.

Speaker B:

I did.

Speaker B:

And I did not think about it.

Speaker A:

Right off the bat.

Speaker B:

That is truly a tough question.

Speaker B:

It's not tough, but it requires a certain level of, like, thought and awareness.

Speaker B:

But I would say since I, you know, I'm here for astrology and I think the moon is our just.

Speaker B:

It's our intrinsic thoughts and how we truly think.

Speaker B:

Even though Mercury rules, like, our mind and our thought processes, the moon is just how we feel and, like, what we truly believe about ourselves and the world.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And for me, like, what makes my heart happy is sushi.

Speaker B:

Sushi Studio Ghibli.

Speaker A:

What did the moon have to do with that?

Speaker B:

That's what.

Speaker B:

That's my heart.

Speaker A:

The moon Sushi.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

So your moon in astrology rules your emotions and your internal world.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And like, your, like, feelings and your heart.

Speaker A:

Fair.

Speaker A:

You know, How'd we get to sushi?

Speaker B:

That's my medicine.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Sushi is sushi.

Speaker B:

Studio Ghibli.

Speaker B:

Got it though.

Speaker B:

Alone time, solitude, those.

Speaker B:

I feel healed.

Speaker B:

I feel fulfilled.

Speaker B:

Especially sushi with a loved one that, like.

Speaker B:

I try to get sushi with everybody.

Speaker A:

You haven't tried to get sushi with me.

Speaker B:

It comes and it goes.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Right now I have not been in a let's go get sushi type.

Speaker B:

That's good, girl.

Speaker B:

Listen, same.

Speaker B:

This isn't my podcast, but same.

Speaker A:

No, I mean, not same for that, but no, just coming out of whatever the fuck.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Yeah, this eclipse has hands.

Speaker A:

It had hands at first.

Speaker B:

I was fine.

Speaker B:

At first.

Speaker B:

We started out and we was cool, taking me places I ain't never been.

Speaker B:

But now you getting comfortable.

Speaker B:

Ain't doing the things you did.

Speaker B:

No mo.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Not a fan.

Speaker A:

But I'm glad it's over.

Speaker B:

It ain't over.

Speaker A:

Well, the.

Speaker A:

I'm glad that, like, the.

Speaker A:

The heaviness of the the is like.

Speaker B:

There'S like debris just aspecting.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

There's like debris, you know, to clean up or whatever.

Speaker A:

But yeah, that one was.

Speaker B:

And then Venus is going to be conjunct the north node.

Speaker B:

Venus.

Speaker B:

Venus or Mars?

Speaker A:

What does that mean?

Speaker B:

It's Venus.

Speaker B:

Venus is.

Speaker B:

That's going to be slay.

Speaker B:

That's going to be slay.

Speaker B:

It's going to be cutesy.

Speaker B:

It will be in Virgo.

Speaker B:

So that's gonna be a little.

Speaker B:

But, but, but a good little time.

Speaker B:

A good little time overall.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Should be a good time.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker A:

We need.

Speaker A:

We need a good time right now.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's gonna be.

Speaker B:

It's gonna be more.

Speaker B:

It's gonna be like a nice little.

Speaker B:

I mean, as long as Virgo is cute and it's not making any harsh aspects to anything in your chart, it's gonna be fine.

Speaker B:

Now if it is, you might lose some people.

Speaker B:

It happens, and that's okay.

Speaker A:

It happens to the best of us.

Speaker B:

It's time for growth.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker B:

Let them go.

Speaker A:

That's fair.

Speaker A:

Let that shit go.

Speaker A:

Well, thank you for joining me today, especially given this, this break I had.

Speaker A:

This was very lovely to have somebody assist me in my welcome back.

Speaker B:

So thank you for having me.

Speaker B:

It was such a pleasure and I promise we will get sushi soon.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

You know, we got time because I'm here now.

Speaker B:

We will have sushi right in here.

Speaker A:

I'm here in Chicago, so.

Speaker B:

In Chicago.

Speaker A:

Yep, it is.

Speaker A:

Alex will obviously be back, so I'll make sure to put the word out there again if people are interested in a mini reading.

Speaker A:

But you can also reach out to Alex and get your own full reading.

Speaker B:

Full reading.

Speaker B:

Tarot reading.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Obviously it's not just your birth chart.

Speaker A:

If you got questions about your business, there's.

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