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In honor of this year’s Superbowl, we've put together a special episode featuring the many guests we've been pleased to welcome to the show, all of whom have had a career with the National Football League.

Hear from:

  • Jim Steeg, former Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of the San Diego Chargers from 2004 to 2010, head of the NFL’s Special Events Department, and “the man who branded the Super Bowl”.  You can hear Jim's full interview in Episode 139. 
  • Shawn Harper, a seven season offensive lineman with the Rams, the Oilers, the Colts, and in NFL Europe. You can hear Shawn's full interview in Episode 414. 
  • Johnny Quinn, former professional football player with the Buffalo Bills and Green Bay Packers. Hear Johnny's full interview by checking out Episode 149.  
  • Matt Mayberry, a former NFL linebacker for the Chicago Bears. Hear Matt's full interview in Episode 155 of The Action Catalyst. 
  • Maurice Clarett, former Denver Broncos draft pick. Hear Maurice's full story in Episode 191. 
  • Will Bartholomew, also a former Denver Bronco. Will's full interview can be heard in part number 8 of the Action Catalyst's “Redefining Possible” bonus series.

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Voiceover:

In honor of this year's Super Bowl, we've put together a special episode featuring the many guests we've been pleased to welcome to the show, all of whom have however long or however briefly had the honor of playing in the National Football League.

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We begin with Jim Steig, former Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of the San Diego Chargers from 2004 to 2000.

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And before that, he spent 35 years with the nfl, 26 of those in charge of the special events department, where he became known as the man who branded the Super Bowl, expanding the event from a championship football game into a week long extravaganza.

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In this clip, Jim addresses the way certain aspects of the modern event we know came to be and evolved over the years.

Jim Steeg:

First Super Bowl.

Jim Steeg:

I went to Super Bowl 10 when I had just started to work for the Dolphins, and I sat in the corner of the end zone in the upper deck, and it, it was, you know, it was the, the biggest game in professional football at that point in time.

Jim Steeg:

It probably wasn't even as big as things that we had in Miami.

Jim Steeg:

You know, the Orange Bowl or the Rose Bowl or things like that.

Jim Steeg:

It was a, it was a football game that was isolated.

Jim Steeg:

It was a championship.

Jim Steeg:

There were some things that were added to it.

Jim Steeg:

You know, little halftime shows were there.

Jim Steeg:

We were probably competing with the halftime show, trying to get as good as the Orange Bowl halftime show in those days.

Jim Steeg:

But it was all about, you know, the game.

Jim Steeg:

So the focus was on making sure it was the best possible experience.

Jim Steeg:

Now was the intent and the planning of Pete Rozel, you know, then the commissioner and the one who was involved, certainly when it started back in 1950.

Jim Steeg:

that he wanted it to make it something that was kind of melded the entertainment business together with the sports business.

Jim Steeg:

So we spent a lot of times in the first.

Jim Steeg:

13 years going back and forth between Miami and Los Angeles.

Jim Steeg:

Miami you could say is New York South.

Jim Steeg:

Los Angeles is Los Angeles, so you know whether it's the thinking of the Jackie Gleason show or whatever you had in la, and so it was a lot of us, but it was a football game and you were trying to make it the biggest football game.

Jim Steeg:

That was, it really developed from them through a variety.

Jim Steeg:

I'd like to say they were all well, well thought.

Jim Steeg:

Measured plans, the thing that made the game so great and, and part of what changed it was going from Miami to Los Angeles.

Jim Steeg:

New Orleans thrown in there.

Jim Steeg:

You were in the same places.

Jim Steeg:

And once we started going to Tampa and Detroit and San Diego and, you know, Houston and run down the list, each one of those brought something new to the equation that you could make the game even better and grow the game.

Jim Steeg:

And that's, that's part of what was all about.

Jim Steeg:

But I think the first big change we had from an entertainment stand.

Jim Steeg:

Was when we went to Detroit and we talked about the national anthem the previous year.

Jim Steeg:

Been sung by Helen O'Connell, who I'm sure is on your hip parade.

Jim Steeg:

I'm not sure how many people remember Helen O'Connell.

Jim Steeg:

I went to Pete and we said, well, you know, we're going to Detroit.

Jim Steeg:

Let's, let's step it up a little bit.

Jim Steeg:

Let's try we, there's only one person that could sing the Anthem of Detroit, and it was Diana Ross.

Jim Steeg:

And his response to me was, yeah, go ahead kid.

Jim Steeg:

Give it a shot.

Jim Steeg:

, he'd had no chance.

Jim Steeg:

Went and called on her and absolutely she did it.

Jim Steeg:

That involved the anthem now from being okay, just somebody to now all of a sudden being a star, uh, you know, a celebrity of major note.

Jim Steeg:

Fits out there, you know, the Billy Joels and Barry Manilows and you know, run down the list of those people that were chart toppers.

Jim Steeg:

But I mean, I think that that shows the, the change in how that took place.

Jim Steeg:

And then the halftime show evolved because they weren't our partners at the time, but Fox ambushed us.

Jim Steeg:

In 1992 with a show they called In Living Color, which went live during the halftime show and won.

Jim Steeg:

Great opposite us trying to steal part of that audience.

Jim Steeg:

And we sat down the next year saying, well, we can't let this happen again.

Jim Steeg:

And so we went after what we thought was the biggest name entertainment at the time, which was Michael Jackson.

Jim Steeg:

Mm-hmm.

Jim Steeg:

. So that was the beginning of the change in the halftime show.

Jim Steeg:

You know, Sandy Gallen, who was Michael Jackson's manager, couldn't tell you if a football was pumped or stuff, you know, , Uhhuh had no idea what we were talking about.

Jim Steeg:

And so you go there and, and that's, you get this false sense when you're dealing with this, the Super Bowl and the N F L is that everybody knows about the Super Bowl and everybody knows about the N F L.

Jim Steeg:

And then you find out that there.

Jim Steeg:

A number of people that don't know.

Jim Steeg:

And that was the case we had with Sandy Gown and with Michael Jackson.

Jim Steeg:

They didn't know what it was.

Jim Steeg:

So like any kind of business approach, you're selling yourself with something and you go in and you make a presentation and say, let me tell you what this is.

Jim Steeg:

Let me tell you what the TV ratings are.

Jim Steeg:

Let me tell you what the type of cloud it is.

Jim Steeg:

Let me tell you who's in the crowd.

Jim Steeg:

Let me tell you where this is gonna be broadcast, you know, internationally.

Jim Steeg:

And really in the case of Michael, that was the thing that.

Jim Steeg:

Work was when we told them, well, this is gonna be broadcast in 180 different countries live.

Jim Steeg:

And you could see his eyes right up and say, you mean this has gotta be broadcasted places I'll never give a concert?

Jim Steeg:

And went, absolutely.

Jim Steeg:

And, and that was kind of the thing that put it over the edge with him.

Jim Steeg:

But it's like all those things, all these people that you're talking to, to get him involved.

Jim Steeg:

And, and I, I saw there so many times with entertainers that they just, you know, I've, I've.

Jim Steeg:

Stadiums, you know, I'd play whatever it is.

Jim Steeg:

Uh, this is nothing.

Jim Steeg:

And you get 'em.

Jim Steeg:

You get 'em out there and they get in the middle of the field or they start doing it, go, this is a little bit different than what I've ever done before.

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You can hear Jim's full interview in episode 1 39.

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Next we hear from Sean Harper, a seven season offensive lineman with the Rams.

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The Oilers, the Colts, and in N F L Europe, sharing the importance of team culture.

Jim Steeg:

You played in the N F L for the Rams, Oilers, Colts, and then over in Europe.

Maurice Clarett:

Yes.

Maurice Clarett:

How.

Shawn Harper:

That was a total of seven years all combined.

Shawn Harper:

Three in the N F L, three and A half over in N F L Europe, so

Jim Steeg:

pretty close to seven years, and then today,

Will Bartholomew:

c e o

Jim Steeg:

of American Services and Protection, which supports people with individual protective services.

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Right.

Maurice Clarett:

Yeah.

Shawn Harper:

It was just a no-brainer for me being an offensive lineman to be able.

Shawn Harper:

Carry this over to protecting clients.

Shawn Harper:

Like I protect running backs and quarterbacks.

Matt Mayberry:

That's

Jim Steeg:

brilliant.

Jim Steeg:

That's such a great analogy.

Jim Steeg:

Your clients are your

Matt Mayberry:

quarterbacks.

Shawn Harper:

That's right.

Shawn Harper:

I went to a junior college in Mason City, Iowa.

Shawn Harper:

Right.

Shawn Harper:

It's like 26,000 blonde hair.

Shawn Harper:

Blue Weiss.

Shawn Harper:

Everyone's last name is Schneider.

Shawn Harper:

Okay.

Shawn Harper:

I'm in the cornfield.

Shawn Harper:

I'm in the cornfield.

Shawn Harper:

Totally different mindset.

Shawn Harper:

I'm, I'm, and where am I now?

Shawn Harper:

Check it.

Shawn Harper:

If you call the seed potential, then the soil is the culture and I was able to germinate that seed in a different culture.

Shawn Harper:

Everything that was placed in me.

Shawn Harper:

Once you put it in a certain situation and circumstances, it begins to germinate.

Shawn Harper:

And unfortunately, and this is man, this is bad, but unfortunately a lot of people, they're not able to change because they're not able to change their culture, their.

Shawn Harper:

and that's the one of the first things associations has to change.

Shawn Harper:

Hmm.

Shawn Harper:

People you hang with, people who, who you talk to, people who, who you consult with.

Shawn Harper:

It has to change.

Shawn Harper:

If we put our energy on the culture of the family, the culture of the workplace, the culture of our community, man, I tell you what, you could take an average, a sub average seat and turn it into a bumper.

Shawn Harper:

Look at the, uh, recent Super Bowl champions.

Shawn Harper:

The Rams.

Shawn Harper:

Now understand this.

Shawn Harper:

Vaughn Miller was considered to be a Washup.

Shawn Harper:

Oden.

Shawn Harper:

Beckman Jr.

Shawn Harper:

Was a washup.

Shawn Harper:

The starting quarterback was with Detroit.

Shawn Harper:

It was a washup.

Shawn Harper:

The left tackles played that game.

Shawn Harper:

He played with, guess who?

Shawn Harper:

Cincinnati.

Shawn Harper:

They got rhythm two years ago.

Shawn Harper:

It was a washup.

Shawn Harper:

What was the difference The.

Shawn Harper:

Was the culture, the Rams haves and have and has an amazing culture to take these individuals, these tainted seas, whatever you wanna say, and turn 'em into crops.

Shawn Harper:

Hmm.

Shawn Harper:

Creating that culture is, first you have to redefine it as this is a winning culture.

Shawn Harper:

Okay, we are here to win.

Shawn Harper:

Now when now fosters automatically teamwork, it fosters collaboration because we're all working together for.

Shawn Harper:

And everyone who participates, whether this much, this much, or a whole bunch is appreciated, respected, and honored a lot of times to sing The kicker.

Shawn Harper:

He celebrates as if he was the quarterback.

Shawn Harper:

He ain't scored no touchdown.

Shawn Harper:

No, we scored a touchdown.

Shawn Harper:

In the locker room, in the culture.

Shawn Harper:

The win is, the win is the win.

Shawn Harper:

And everyone's excited and everyone participates it.

Shawn Harper:

And that's what has to be accentuated in corporate.

Shawn Harper:

What's going on with the pr?

Shawn Harper:

What's going on with hr?

Shawn Harper:

Are they winning?

Shawn Harper:

Well, then you ain't winning.

Shawn Harper:

Hmm?

Shawn Harper:

The entire culture has to win together or we lose together, period.

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You can hear Sean's full interview in episode four 14.

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Next we hear from Johnny Quinn, a professional speaker and former professional football player with the Buffalo Bills and Green Bay Packers sharing his path to the N F L and the moment he considers the peak of his football career.

Johnny Quinn:

A very successful college career, but nobody wanted to draft me on draft day, and so shortly after the N F L draft, I had my first free agent contract come in from the Buffalo Bills.

Johnny Quinn:

I'm 22 years old.

Johnny Quinn:

I signed a three year deal for $1.2 million.

Johnny Quinn:

I am fired up to be in Buffalo.

Johnny Quinn:

If you're tracking with me, you know I've got a chance and I remember.

Johnny Quinn:

Getting to Buffalo, getting all of my N F L gear to see my name in an N F L locker room.

Johnny Quinn:

It, it was unbelievable.

Johnny Quinn:

We get out to practice.

Johnny Quinn:

I'm day three with the bills, running routes, and snap my hamstring.

Johnny Quinn:

And I'm thinking, you've gotta be kidding me.

Johnny Quinn:

Day three into my childhood dream coming true a, a hamstring injury.

Johnny Quinn:

And so, you know, the N F l, we, we joke around and say, Hey, it stands for not for long.

Johnny Quinn:

And boy, they had me on a flight back to Texas so quick I was

Matt Mayberry:

out of

Johnny Quinn:

there.

Johnny Quinn:

But that was the first time that somebody sat me down.

Johnny Quinn:

They, they looked me in the eyes, crossed the table, and they said, Johnny, you are not good enough.

Johnny Quinn:

We're not gonna keep you around.

Johnny Quinn:

We're not gonna let you rehabilitate your hams.

Johnny Quinn:

We do not think you can help us win today.

Johnny Quinn:

We are cutting you.

Johnny Quinn:

And when I heard those words, I, I didn't know how to process that cuz I had a very successful high school career, very successful college career.

Johnny Quinn:

I get to the pros and suddenly I'm not good enough.

Johnny Quinn:

And so I, I came back to Texas.

Johnny Quinn:

My agent found a, a new team the following year with the Green Bay Packers.

Johnny Quinn:

And so I, I get to Green Bay when Brett Fav retired.

Johnny Quinn:

The first time , and I'm 23 years old, I signed a 1.4 million contract.

Johnny Quinn:

I'm, I'm excited to be in Green Bay.

Johnny Quinn:

Things are going good, you know, finally, I'm back on track.

Johnny Quinn:

I get selected as off season performer of the week.

Johnny Quinn:

We get into the pre-season, I have my first n l reception on Monday night Foot

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football.

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in,

Johnny Quinn:

in historic Lambeau.

Johnny Quinn:

It was incredible.

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Johnny's full interview can be found by checking out episode 1 49.

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Next up is Matt Mayberry, a former N F L linebacker for the Chicago Bears, explaining how athletics provided him with a lifeline out of a troubled youth, eventually leading to his professional career.

Matt Mayberry:

I'm a former teenage drug.

Matt Mayberry:

You know, at 16 years old, I started to hang around with drug addicts, people that were committing crimes, robberies, um, even murders.

Matt Mayberry:

Obviously I wasn't doing those type of crimes, but, uh, those are the people that I was hanging around with.

Matt Mayberry:

So ultimately I adopted their habits.

Matt Mayberry:

So right at 16, I've done every single drug you could think of besides heroin.

Matt Mayberry:

My mother's seen me do cocaine five times.

Matt Mayberry:

My father's been an ironworker for the past 40 years.

Matt Mayberry:

You know, the strongest man I've ever met throughout the course of my life.

Matt Mayberry:

It's not 330 pound lineman that wanted to rip my head off in the n l It's my father.

Matt Mayberry:

So to, to see him break down in tears and really just tell me, you know, Matt, is it something that me and your mother did wrong as parents?

Matt Mayberry:

What did we do wrong as parents?

Matt Mayberry:

We don't know if we could go down this road anymore, you know?

Matt Mayberry:

But that's when I started to hear over and over again, athletics.

Matt Mayberry:

Athletics, athletic.

Matt Mayberry:

So after I knew that athletics and really getting a Division one college scholarship was really my only lifesaver, that would be how it would save my parents financially.

Matt Mayberry:

From all the money they spent.

Matt Mayberry:

I knew that that was gonna start the building blocks towards creating a bigger future for Matt Mayberry, and as well as giving back for my mother and father, for all their, their sacrifice, dedication, and financial support that they've given me throughout the course.

Matt Mayberry:

You know, those three years where I was living in such a dark world.

Matt Mayberry:

And that's when I set a.

Matt Mayberry:

To get a Division one college scholarship offer.

Matt Mayberry:

It was in that moment in time and I made a list of 50 things that I had to do.

Matt Mayberry:

I had to run a 4, 5 40 yard dash.

Matt Mayberry:

I had to bench press 185 pounds, you know, 25 times.

Matt Mayberry:

I had to reach out to these many colleges, you know, per day.

Matt Mayberry:

So I started to create a game plan of everything I had to do, and it was that moment in time, working seven days a week, perfecting on my craft, getting better as a football.

Matt Mayberry:

Cause I already got kicked off the baseball team, so the only sport I had left was football.

Matt Mayberry:

And football wasn't a sport I was extremely excited about.

Matt Mayberry:

Um, it was just a sport that I was, you know, naturally gifted at.

Matt Mayberry:

I wasn't a LeBron James where you say Matt Mayberry's gonna play in the N F L one day.

Matt Mayberry:

But I did have some natural God-given ability there.

Matt Mayberry:

You know, I think that's where a lot of people, you know, why goal setting maybe hasn't worked for them in the past, that they might set some, some.

Matt Mayberry:

Goal that they're extremely passionate about.

Matt Mayberry:

But behind that, there's no action plan as to how they're gonna achieve that goal.

Matt Mayberry:

And just like as a football team, you gotta come up with a game plan as to how they're gonna win the Super Bowl.

Matt Mayberry:

Everything from practices is scheduled out to the daily meetings, to meetings with your position coaches.

Matt Mayberry:

The same goes through in the, in the world of business and in the game of life.

Matt Mayberry:

You need a game plan as to who do you want to become, what are the characteristics that you want to.

Matt Mayberry:

You know, what are your values?

Matt Mayberry:

What are your goal?

Matt Mayberry:

All that stuff matters.

Matt Mayberry:

And I think when I created the plan, that really showed me wanting extremely important characteristic, where I think a lot of people miss out on in goal setting is to really come up with a

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plan.

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Here Matt's full interview in episode 1 55 of the Action Catalyst.

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In our next clip, Maurice Clare, former Denver Bronco's draft pick talks about his shock at being selected for the pros and why his time.

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There was a brief one.

Maurice Clarett:

So, uh, I, I come to the NFL combine.

Maurice Clarett:

Two years later I'm preparing and I fell horribly at the combine.

Maurice Clarett:

And so I'm thinking to myself like, man, I'm not gonna get drafted.

Maurice Clarett:

Like, there's no way this is gonna happen for me.

Maurice Clarett:

You know, I've sat on the football for two years.

Maurice Clarett:

I performed horribly at the combine.

Maurice Clarett:

I'm not in the greatest shape anymore, and just my heart just wasn't into the game.

Maurice Clarett:

It was just like, you know, I got beat up so much just from media stuff and the ups and downs and just the, the rigor of going through, uh, something very public.

Maurice Clarett:

And so I was like, Uh, I'll, I'll, I'll just watch the draft when it comes on outta curiosity.

Maurice Clarett:

So the draft comes on, uh, first two rounds, come on.

Maurice Clarett:

And I'm seeing guys getting drafted and going up on the stage and families crying and all that stuff.

Maurice Clarett:

And, uh, this was actually making me more depressed cuz I was like, just thinking like, man, that's supposed to be me.

Maurice Clarett:

And so, uh, we go, uh, forward and, you know, the ball's kind of rolling down the uh, road.

Maurice Clarett:

First round goes by, second round goes by.

Maurice Clarett:

I get in the car, I'm riding around, uh, the 4 0 5 and, uh, Denver calls me.

Maurice Clarett:

Denver calls me and they say, Hey, Maurice, you know, we would love to, uh, bring you out to make you a Bronco.

Maurice Clarett:

Uh, congratulations.

Maurice Clarett:

You know, uh, you know, the plane tickets be there tomorrow.

Maurice Clarett:

So I'm like, man, you know, the plane ticket will be here tomorrow.

Maurice Clarett:

Life is great.

Maurice Clarett:

Uh, you know, I can't wait.

Maurice Clarett:

Uh, get out the air, pumped up on the left hand, but then on the right hand, I'm like, I know for a fact I'm not prepared.

Maurice Clarett:

I think anybody who even listens to this, you know, some, some of us have been given opportunities that we know inherently are in, innately that we're not prepared to, uh, to steward.

Maurice Clarett:

And the next thing you know, at some point, the wheels will fall off on this sting.

Maurice Clarett:

So I got out to Denver, I was outta shape, and, and the altitude didn't make it any worse.

Maurice Clarett:

And, and one thing I didn't know, I didn't know how hot it gets in Denver.

Maurice Clarett:

And so the combination.

Maurice Clarett:

, all of that.

Maurice Clarett:

You know, me being outta shape, uh, me having every bad habit you could possibly name, me having bad character, uh, all those things were just beginning to surface.

Maurice Clarett:

And so like midway through camp, uh, coach Shanahan calls me over.

Maurice Clarett:

He said, man, Maurice, you know, I know you had a tough time before you got here, and I know, you know, we would like to help you and support you.

Maurice Clarett:

And they tried to pair me with a, a sports psychologist.

Maurice Clarett:

And so for me, I was like, man, I don't want no sports psychologist.

Maurice Clarett:

Like, you know what, what, what is gonna help me to talk to this lady?

Maurice Clarett:

You know what I'm saying?

Maurice Clarett:

And just totally blew her off.

Maurice Clarett:

And so we kept going on inside the season and they tried to approach me again with the woman.

Maurice Clarett:

So, She set me down and she was trying to figure out what was going on, and I just rejected her again.

Maurice Clarett:

I said, Hey, lay, I don't want anything to do with you.

Maurice Clarett:

Uh, not in the rude way, but it's like, you know, I'm cool.

Maurice Clarett:

I don't wanna do this.

Maurice Clarett:

You know, I just didn't feel comfortable talking to her.

Maurice Clarett:

And so, you know, the next thing you know, uh, the preseason comes around.

Maurice Clarett:

I don't get in the games, they kick me off the team, and then I'm back out, uh, to California, you know, as, as a rejected, uh, free.

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Hear Maurice's full story in episode 1 91, and finally, will Beu founder and c e O of D one Sports.

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Also a former Denver Bronco.

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Explains how the end of his N F L career wound up being a huge blessing in disguise.

Will Bartholomew:

Grew up in Nashville, Tennessee, was an athlete.

Will Bartholomew:

Um, had had a real passion for sports and uh, you know, it was one of those things I knew early on this is what I wanted, wanted to do and wanted to to be.

Will Bartholomew:

Then went on to the University of Tennessee, played a little football.

Will Bartholomew:

There was the full back on the 98 National Championship team, as you mentioned.

Will Bartholomew:

Got to be captain of the team.

Will Bartholomew:

And then, uh, had a SIPA coffee in the pros.

Will Bartholomew:

It's more business than like team oriented than colleges.

Will Bartholomew:

But that wasn't a middle shift cuz I was like, just do what, do what you've done before to be successful.

Will Bartholomew:

And that's what I did.

Will Bartholomew:

Like I got there, I was the guy late in the weight room and you know, the coaches would pull me aside and go, Hey, you're gonna make this team, keep doing what you're doing.

Will Bartholomew:

And like I had all of that stuff lined up and then God threw me through.

Will Bartholomew:

Uh, they're a little bit of a twist.

Will Bartholomew:

Um, and so I'm running down the field and so they, they had cut the, the guy behind me, they had cut the guy ahead of me.

Will Bartholomew:

So, and I'm, I'm, I'm coming into this going, man.

Will Bartholomew:

I'm getting, I'm getting first team reps, second team reps, and, and I'm on, um, two special teams.

Will Bartholomew:

I'm like, I'm gonna play a lot.

Will Bartholomew:

Right?

Will Bartholomew:

And I'm thinking in my mind, like, just keep doing what you're doing.

Will Bartholomew:

Just keep having a great attitude and working hard.

Will Bartholomew:

And I'm running

Jim Steeg:

down the field on air.

Jim Steeg:

I

Will Bartholomew:

cut in my knee tears and my quad tears.

Will Bartholomew:

Uh, I got my N F L P A number, uh, and I got to be in training camp, but I blew my knee out in training camp, which I thought at the time was, uh, the worst thing that could ever happen to me.

Will Bartholomew:

And it felt like that for about six months.

Will Bartholomew:

And then through that difficulty, uh, was birthed this business called D one.

Will Bartholomew:

I wrote a business plan while I was laid up about a place to train athletes, just like I had trained at the University of Tennessee, uh, where you could have expert coaches, uh, you could have someone coach you through nutrition, uh, motivating environment, uh, the loud music, all the great things that I loved, and that's what I set out

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to.

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Will's full interview can be heard in part number eight of the Action Catalyst's redefining Possible bonus series.

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We hope you've enjoyed this episode and hope you enjoy this year's big game.

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