This week, I sit down with Catherine Praiswater of Your Positive Imprint.
Your Positive Imprint is a show that highlights people from around the world whose positive achievements are inspiring positive actions.
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Settle back for an open and free-flowing chat about life changes and recognizing our inner value.
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Speaker:Hi and welcome to Podcaster Stories. Each episode we'll have
Speaker:a conversation with podcasters from across the globe and share
Speaker:their story. What motivates them, why they started their show,
Speaker:how they grew their show, and more. We'll also talk
Speaker:about their personal lives, and some of the things that
Speaker:have happened that made them the person they are today.
Speaker:And now here's your host, Danny Brown. Hi, and welcome
Speaker:to another episode of Podcaster Stories, where we get to
Speaker:meet the people behind the voices of the shows we
Speaker:listen to. This week, I have Catherine Praiswater, who is
Speaker:the host of Your Positive Imprint, a show highlighting people
Speaker:around the world whose positive achievements have inspired positive actions.
Speaker:Catherine, welcome to the show. How about you tell us
Speaker:about yourself and your podcast.
Speaker:Well, he didn't know Danny thank you so much for
Speaker:having me on this is exciting. Usually I'm on the
Speaker:other end, right? So I'm Catherine yes. And I live
Speaker:in New Mexico and we trout while we were before
Speaker:COVID we travel quite a bit and we're hikers and
Speaker:bikers, and we love Hawaii. Hence my little Hawaiian, he
Speaker:had jewelry that I have on, but I do have
Speaker:a podcast or Positive Imprint in, there are so many
Speaker:different reasons as to why I wanted to do this
Speaker:type of podcast. And I'm going to share one of
Speaker:those stories with you that my listeners haven't heard yet.
Speaker:But my podcast, as you said, is taking or finding
Speaker:people around the world. Who's positive actions are inspiring positive
Speaker:achievements. So it is not a single topic. It's a
Speaker:variety show. And I absolutely love the variety show. As,
Speaker:as yours, you have all of these different people on
Speaker:your show and, and I do to, and so there
Speaker:are stories that are all different and their inspirations are
Speaker:different. And, but there are what is in common is
Speaker:that they are completely putting out these Positive imprints here
Speaker:for humanity, for generations to come and even beyond.
Speaker:And as we know everything we say and do is
Speaker:going to be part of humanity in some way. And
Speaker:so we want to be sure that it's a positive
Speaker:and inspiring piece that we leave. And it's people aren't
Speaker:just doing this to leave behind. They are doing it
Speaker:to make a difference right now. So, and I started
Speaker:the podcast when I was in between jobs, literally. So,
Speaker:and a fellow came to the door. He was a
Speaker:solicitor. He doesn't like to be called a solicitor and
Speaker:they were friends, but he was a solicitor for a
Speaker:financial group. And he heard my voice and said, Oh
Speaker:my gosh, you should be on a podcast.
Speaker:You should have your own podcast show. You have a
Speaker:great voice. And so I started looking into that and
Speaker:thought, well, you know what? That sounds like a pretty
Speaker:good idea. And then I started looking at a topic
Speaker:and this is what I wanted to do because I
Speaker:want to showcase. And I'm a thing that showcases the
Speaker:right word, but I want to feature people whose stories
Speaker:aren't being heard and whose inspirations aren't being seen except
Speaker:for within their community. And I want to share those
Speaker:because I think it's important for people to number one,
Speaker:be able to identify their own Positive Imprint and it's
Speaker:hard for people in my tagline is what's your pie.
Speaker:And it's very hard for people to say and to
Speaker:identify their own and to say, yeah, I am doing
Speaker:good, but there is a lot of good in the
Speaker:world and I want to identify it and bring it
Speaker:to listeners. So that listeners do know that there's a
Speaker:fabulous, great people out there there's activities to get involved
Speaker:in and so on. Anyway, that's my long answer. So
Speaker:there,
Speaker:No, that's cool. And you mentioned that, that it came
Speaker:about while you were between jobs. So D D D
Speaker:I, a lot of the jobs have any impact on
Speaker:the topic of the shore and how you approach that.
Speaker:Like where are you finding an inspiring stories, the forehand,
Speaker:or was this a completely different from what the, the
Speaker:jobs were
Speaker:Completely different? I am a literacy specialist and a teacher.
Speaker:So I was looking to do something. I don't know
Speaker:something not different because I didn't know what I want
Speaker:it in between jobs, but I was with the department
Speaker:of education and they had me traveling, you know, almost
Speaker:four hours a day, just one way. So that's eight
Speaker:hours and I would have to live somewhere else and
Speaker:be apart from the family. And I didn't want to
Speaker:do that. So I needed to look into something else.
Speaker:And then what happened is my dad left us. He,
Speaker:he died on Christmas 2017 and it was so sudden
Speaker:nobody was expecting it and right after Christmas dinner and
Speaker:he just collapsed in the house and he was gone.
Speaker:And so if I had been thinking about the podcast
Speaker:and dad had been there through the process, and we'd
Speaker:all been trying to think of a name. And so
Speaker:I wanted to, after that incident, I wanted to continue
Speaker:on with my vision of doing this. So, yeah. So
Speaker:it was kind of different events that kind of occurred
Speaker:in a chronological order of the job and then the
Speaker:solicitor and then dad.
Speaker:Yeah. But, and you'd mentioned, obviously it was very Southern
Speaker:with your dad's passing and they were just completely out
Speaker:of the blue and unexpected with him being such a
Speaker:huge part of the conception of your Lake in there,
Speaker:that the idea behind, what are the direction, was it
Speaker:harder to, to get back in to the saddle when
Speaker:you were ready to launch, you know, the following year,
Speaker:how did that come about? What was that process?
Speaker:So it was hard. So the, the process was actually,
Speaker:it had to cut you. It was in my head
Speaker:and I was grieving and I just didn't want to
Speaker:do that, but I didn't want to do anything. I
Speaker:was just so distraught over this. And it was actually
Speaker:when I went to do a tribute for my dad's
Speaker:birthday, which is May 2nd, and I, I'm a dancer.
Speaker:So I chose a piece of music, a by Chris
Speaker:crystal and the beautiful piece. And I did this tribute
Speaker:to dad and the music is I was listening to
Speaker:all the different music pieces that Chris does.
Speaker:I started becoming more and more inspired to, Oh my
Speaker:gosh, I have to do this podcast. So it was
Speaker:after I did that tribute. And after listening to Chris's
Speaker:music over and over and over again, it's pianist, he's
Speaker:a pianists and getting that inspiration. Then I started diving
Speaker:back into the podcast and then I started looking for
Speaker:people around the world to help me. And it was
Speaker:actually one of your friends, Mark Asquith, who reached out
Speaker:to me when he saw that I was looking for,
Speaker:Hey, I need some help. I have no idea what
Speaker:to do. And then that relationship and Mark is over
Speaker:in England.
Speaker:That relationship helped me to build what I needed and
Speaker:what I need to know about the podcast. So,
Speaker:Oh, that's cool. I like Mark's. Yeah. He's like a,
Speaker:a force of nature. Or when it comes to podcasts,
Speaker:then it says crazy how much he wants to help
Speaker:people, but not your story just enforces us. We're all
Speaker:cool. Okay.
Speaker:Sure, sure. Absolutely. And there were other people to lots
Speaker:of people, but as far as, as the, the website
Speaker:and the know how Marc was there. So that was,
Speaker:that was helpful. And then James, from Mark's a group
Speaker:also, I don't know if you knew him. I think
Speaker:it was James Marriott. I think it was his last
Speaker:name. So yeah. So there's been some really good people
Speaker:around the world who have helped me get the show
Speaker:moving and then the listener's have been phenomenal. Absolutely wonderful
Speaker:and beautiful emails that they send. I appreciate that.
Speaker:And, and that's, I think that's one of the, the,
Speaker:the, the most rewarding and things of podcasting that we
Speaker:can always look for downloads and et cetera on our
Speaker:analytics. But it's that knowing that you've connected with someone
Speaker:and obviously you're on your podcast is both of, you
Speaker:know, people that are making a positive impact. So that,
Speaker:and clearly you'll make an, a positive and part of
Speaker:yourself because of the feedback that you'd get in the
Speaker:stories that have been shared with you.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. That's true. That's true. And they're is, you
Speaker:know, you're, Over in Canada. There is a, a listener
Speaker:in Canada who she never forgets about my dad. And
Speaker:so I received a beautiful, beautiful, a condolence card. You
Speaker:know, it had been two years, but I had started
Speaker:the podcast and she knew the story and she sent
Speaker:such a, a lovely, a little email and, and a
Speaker:card, which was really nice. And then she remembered him
Speaker:on his birthday. I just think that that's so special.
Speaker:You just mentioned these things on the podcast and people
Speaker:just remember, and that's, that's really awfully sweet.
Speaker:Now I know who you are, a podcast that shares,
Speaker:as you've mentioned, incredibly inspiring Stories and just looking. And
Speaker:they are obviously very varied. There is not one single
Speaker:topic and drive and for me, but there's a driving
Speaker:theme. Obviously there was activity to the different topics. I
Speaker:mean, you have you spoken to people that have had
Speaker:death threats, 'cause have been fighting for children's rights families
Speaker:that have had to deal with suicide survivors of the
Speaker:Chernobyl tragedy, which I find incredible, you know, when I
Speaker:was listening to it and inspiration, you mentioned yourself, you're
Speaker:a dancer. And one of them was about how someone
Speaker:is inspired through that, you know, the act of dancing.
Speaker:So how would you go about finding guests and, and
Speaker:is there a process for what kind of stories to
Speaker:share?
Speaker:Oh, I love that you ask this question because finding
Speaker:guests is one of the most exciting parts of this.
Speaker:And I, I actually find them off of the internet.
Speaker:I don't know most of these people. I mean, some
Speaker:of them, I do know. Yes. And, but most of
Speaker:them, I don't. And so for instance, I was so
Speaker:inspired by these pictures that it has been Litesa, who
Speaker:was a guest he's from Norway. And he was putting
Speaker:these beautiful pictures of the outdoors on his Instagram account.
Speaker:But I was what he wrote about the pictures really
Speaker:caught me.
Speaker:And it was inspiring words, not just, Oh, Hey, here's
Speaker:a picture of the waterfalls. We hike to blah, blah,
Speaker:blah, or that type of thing. It was these waterfalls
Speaker:or, or not waterfalls, but the fjords or whatever it
Speaker:might be in the lakes, he was out, he would
Speaker:say, please get outdoors and enjoy the outdoors, help with
Speaker:your he's a nurse help with your, your stress. See
Speaker:what's available just in your front yard and take it
Speaker:all in and reflect. And I was just really inspired
Speaker:and taken in by all of that. So I contacted
Speaker:him and we started a communication and a relationship. And
Speaker:he and I had him on the show and he
Speaker:was amazing.
Speaker:And I'm still getting people who love his show, his,
Speaker:the episode that he was featured on it. And then
Speaker:his girlfriend key-note was also on. So that's one way,
Speaker:in other ways, our listeners send me, Oh my gosh,
Speaker:I met this person or, Oh my gosh, I just
Speaker:saw this person on Facebook. Or I saw them on
Speaker:T V, please try to have them on the show.
Speaker:And so I will, I will try to do that.
Speaker:And others, I might meet at a podcast conference and
Speaker:they have stories to tell, or I just Google interesting
Speaker:people of Africa and all of these names come up.
Speaker:And so I'll start researching and then calling a, so
Speaker:it's just, it's so much fun to meet these people.
Speaker:It, it is. And I wish that the, I know
Speaker:the world a small, but I wish there were a
Speaker:smaller so that we can just see each other a
Speaker:instead of on the screen so that it is a
Speaker:remarkable part of what I do. And I, I love
Speaker:it. I love it so much. And yeah,
Speaker:That's cool to hear because they know a lot of
Speaker:people, don't like the research part of that as a
Speaker:podcast when you've got guests coming out. But I like
Speaker:this stuff I liked to sort of find out more
Speaker:about the person we're going to be speaking with, but
Speaker:do you ever find a way that you disappeared on
Speaker:a rabbit hole? It's almost like the YouTube to watch
Speaker:one video and five hours later, you're watching the a
Speaker:hundred video related to that person on a topic. They
Speaker:were find yourself disappearing down guests, rabbit hole. So for
Speaker:example,
Speaker:Gosh, yeah, that's all the time. And, but that's, that
Speaker:can be fun in itself because you're, you're grabbing a
Speaker:story and you're grappling with, you know, should I, or
Speaker:shouldn't I contact this person because sometimes they are bigger
Speaker:than what, you know, you are maybe be able to,
Speaker:to tackle, or maybe think there was one, a father,
Speaker:Ray Kelly, he's in Ireland. And I was in Idaho.
Speaker:This is such a fun story. I was in Idaho
Speaker:where my sister lives, which is in the United States.
Speaker:Well, for you, you would know that, but in, in
Speaker:the United States and her, one of our friends sent
Speaker:me a video of father, Ray Kelly, singing the hallelujah
Speaker:song at a wedding.
Speaker:And I thought it was so fabulous. And my sister
Speaker:and I were up until about two o'clock in the
Speaker:morning, as you said, down that rabbit hole, looking up
Speaker:everything about father Ray Kelly, and every video. And we're
Speaker:just like, Oh my gosh, this guy is incredible. And
Speaker:so the next day we shared the videos with my
Speaker:mother and my mother said, Catherine, you should Contact father
Speaker:Ray. Yeah. Right. Mom. And she has a, Catherine just
Speaker:Contact him. And so I contacted him and he said,
Speaker:yes, I love to be on the podcast. And I
Speaker:had him on the show. We did a two episode
Speaker:because it was also on Britain's got talent. Yeah. And
Speaker:recently he was on dancing with the stars out in
Speaker:Ireland.
Speaker:And, Oh, I had such a good time with him.
Speaker:And now we have this beautiful relationship. We were able
Speaker:to contact each other and say, hello, and Andy, you
Speaker:know, hear about what each other, you know, what we're
Speaker:doing and what our families are doing. So it was
Speaker:exciting. And I, I was just a, yeah, just one
Speaker:of those exciting times when mom says, just do it
Speaker:in his, YouTube had 65 million views.
Speaker:So that's a, a viral sensation right there. Yeah. It
Speaker:is. And it's a beautiful song as well to it.
Speaker:So to hear, you know, someone of the phase of
Speaker:singing that song, that must've been, you know, a real
Speaker:connection for him to do that.
Speaker:Yes. It, it, it was wonderful. So there's just amazing,
Speaker:wonderful people. And I can remember, or I inside of
Speaker:him, hasn't even been that long, but I can give
Speaker:you a quote from each and every person, because it
Speaker:is not just a job rate. I have them on
Speaker:the show and have a recorded conversation. I learned from
Speaker:them and I am inspired from them and they do
Speaker:have wonderful quotes.
Speaker:And that ties into my next question perfectly. So thank
Speaker:you for that. That's like a professional way. So obviously
Speaker:you've got a very variety, a very short with different
Speaker:guests on an amazing Stories. How has it been? This
Speaker:might be something that you don't answer, but has it
Speaker:been any that have stood out, particularly for you, either
Speaker:because of a deep connection with your own experiences or
Speaker:because of the story that has been shared? And if
Speaker:so, why that episode of this episode in particular,
Speaker:Oh, you know, each week, the episode is like, Oh
Speaker:my gosh, this was the best episode ever. And then
Speaker:the next week, Oh my gosh, is this the best
Speaker:episode ever? So, no, not anyone at all because they,
Speaker:all the stories are so interesting and the people are
Speaker:so interesting. So there's not been anyone that's been a
Speaker:favorite at all, or one that's been more inspiring than
Speaker:the next. They all have been equally fabulous, but I
Speaker:think what is different then some of the others is
Speaker:a continued relationship.
Speaker:So continued communication with some of the guests is ongoing.
Speaker:And that is what is much more special for me
Speaker:is that friendship. And so I can talk to people
Speaker:that I've had on the show several times a week
Speaker:or several times a month, and some, they don't contact
Speaker:me at all anymore. And that's fine. And so I
Speaker:think that is what makes the difference for me is
Speaker:the continued connection.
Speaker:And speaking of that, I mean, obviously you've mentioned that
Speaker:every episode you could pull a quote from every single
Speaker:episode that you've done. So what are some of the
Speaker:things that you've taken from guests and how's that implement
Speaker:it or have been implemented in your own life then?
Speaker:Oh, I think that it makes me a better person
Speaker:every day, because I feel that what I'm bringing to
Speaker:the world such positivity and also struggles, and it's showing
Speaker:me the human side, because a lot of these people
Speaker:do some of the things that I do or used
Speaker:to do or still am doing, but never feel like,
Speaker:Oh, I don't know if I'm really making a difference
Speaker:because we all feel that way. And I feel that
Speaker:way even, you know, some days, Oh, is the podcast
Speaker:making a difference. And so when I have a guest
Speaker:on, sometimes their story hits home a little bit more,
Speaker:and then I realize, yeah, you know what?
Speaker:This is validating the work that I did maybe in
Speaker:the 1980s, or it validates work I'm doing today or
Speaker:validates what I'm thinking about doing tomorrow. So yes, there
Speaker:are some that definitely there, what they say, we'll definitely
Speaker:hit a little harder than others. And one of them,
Speaker:he Shaw who I just had on recently, she had
Speaker:death threats and she's not doing anything that would, that
Speaker:you would consider someone to cause a death threat. You
Speaker:know, she's wanting to save the environment. She's wanting to
Speaker:have a social justice and a death threat is just
Speaker:not something that I would even think about.
Speaker:The, any of these people are in my shows, I
Speaker:would have to go to a grapple with, or, or
Speaker:I just, I was shocked by that. And she's only
Speaker:20 years old. So that was hitting me pretty profoundly.
Speaker:So, and then there's people like Mary shields', who was
Speaker:the first woman to have entered the, I did a
Speaker:rod and completed the ideas of what she didn't when,
Speaker:but she completed it. And she opened the door for
Speaker:female athletes in all sorts of male, dominated sports, such
Speaker:as even track and so on. And then she was,
Speaker:this was 1974.
Speaker:So the amount it's just anything that these people say
Speaker:or do is incredible because you can take to heart
Speaker:and you can take also logically and move forward with
Speaker:things. So that, that's a really good one.
Speaker:No, no. And like you just said, I was amazed.
Speaker:I'm listening to that sort of both the fact that
Speaker:this is a person that isn't doing good in the
Speaker:world. How could you possibly want to be in a
Speaker:position where you send a death threat? I mean, what
Speaker:does that say to you as a, the passion that
Speaker:you are in? And I'm wondering if Settle, if in
Speaker:the last few years the, the, the, the, the visit
Speaker:furnace that's being introduced to the world and encourage by
Speaker:the leadership, et cetera, that that's going to have an
Speaker:impact. People have to realize the rewards, you know, we're
Speaker:going to be taken literally and, and acted upon, unfortunately,
Speaker:And that's, that's a such a true statement. Danny that
Speaker:is such a true statement. And leaders set the tone.
Speaker:They do set the tone for what is to come,
Speaker:and certainly the tone changes, but oftentimes it will take
Speaker:years to reset a tone. And that's why these people
Speaker:that are on my show in, in, on your show
Speaker:and on other shows that are doing such good in
Speaker:the world and trying to, and, you know, you talked
Speaker:about leadership, not all of the people that I have
Speaker:on the show consider themselves as leaders. They're just out
Speaker:doing what they're doing, and they don't think twice about
Speaker:it.
Speaker:And I think that's what also makes them special. And
Speaker:I don't want to say unique but unique for a
Speaker:better word, but it is what makes them true to
Speaker:yourself and true to the work they're doing. And there
Speaker:are some that are doing what they're doing to make
Speaker:money, but in a Positive scheme of things like a,
Speaker:the bicycle glass man, the gentlemen out in Minnesota, and
Speaker:they have a company where they, they blow glass. And
Speaker:that can be a very, that can leave a very
Speaker:negative global footprint because of the Thea wear and tear
Speaker:on the earth and the pollution and so on with
Speaker:the shipping and whatnot, but they use recycled glass.
Speaker:So they're trying to cut that footprint and turn it
Speaker:into more of an environmental Positive, you know, doing something
Speaker:a little bit better, but we still need glass fixture's
Speaker:for our light bulbs. You know, we can't do without
Speaker:those are, we would just, you know, be blinded. So
Speaker:there, there a story is very interesting and there they
Speaker:are making money on what they're doing, but it still
Speaker:positive. It is still inspiring. And it's still doing something
Speaker:that is helping and helping to grow other people who
Speaker:want to have the same for our patients.
Speaker:It is kind of like a, there was a Canadian
Speaker:company called is Spotify and Spotify was not a Canadian
Speaker:company in Shopify would be my morning coffee over this
Speaker:way. So yeah, this is one Canadian company called Shopify.
Speaker:Umm, and obviously there are a, one of the biggest
Speaker:global e-commerce guy companies, but they have just announced that
Speaker:every one of their vendors Shopify will offset any carbon
Speaker:footprint in that they need to ship the products. So,
Speaker:so to your point at is helping people do good
Speaker:and do what they want you to do with our
Speaker:lives, you know, from an independence point of view and
Speaker:making sure the plan is not suffering because of that.
Speaker:So I think it's always a, you mentioned unique. I
Speaker:think its always the, the one's that do the stuff
Speaker:in the background, that was a huge change.
Speaker:Makers, cars are not for glory or anything that has
Speaker:to change in making a change. Right.
Speaker:Right. And, and that is so true. And there has
Speaker:been, I've had some incredible, Oh my gosh, I just
Speaker:have had such incredible people. And I'm thinking of some
Speaker:of the, the Ozzie, some of the Australian folks who
Speaker:are oceanographers, who are the F the fore-front folks with
Speaker:climate change in doing the research and providing the research
Speaker:for our legislative governments around the world. And I just
Speaker:think of the hard work they've been doing and the
Speaker:push that they've had in, in it, when I was
Speaker:talking to Kahiki Shaw, you know, she was 20 years
Speaker:old and I told her, how did he get shot?
Speaker:I so hope that it doesn't take a lifetime to
Speaker:make a change because it seems like climate change.
Speaker:And some of the other environmental laws that we want
Speaker:to have enacted worldwide are taking more than a lifetime.
Speaker:And I don't know, I learned so much and then
Speaker:I'm saddened by some things, but moving forward with others
Speaker:in these people, they give their whole life to this
Speaker:research and living on a boat and being away from
Speaker:their families for so long, just great, great greatness around
Speaker:the world.
Speaker:Hm. And I, speaking of that, you had mentioned that
Speaker:your podcast is often validated for the work that you've
Speaker:been doing previously because of the people who speak to
Speaker:and what's happened now and what you were doing in
Speaker:your previous work. And I know you'd mentioned that there
Speaker:was a trip to Lithuania and where you really discovered
Speaker:how powerful the women were making about Positive, you know,
Speaker:to be in a positive force for the community, with
Speaker:providing an education and food, et cetera. But you also
Speaker:mentioned that your, your life was changed by a visit
Speaker:to the hospital. Can you share, you know, the, the,
Speaker:the, the stories were also as a woman, but what
Speaker:was that was that event that they changed it for
Speaker:you?
Speaker:So when I was out there, I was out visiting
Speaker:schools and working with the, an organization and visiting the
Speaker:people. This was right after the wall had fallen out
Speaker:there. So it was early on, it was a 95,
Speaker:so pretty. And there was still a lot of unsettled
Speaker:people there with, even though the wall had fallen and
Speaker:freedoms were becoming instilled back in to them, there was
Speaker:unrest, but we went two of us, just two of
Speaker:us. We went into a local hospital because we wanted
Speaker:to see what the hospital, I was like, what are
Speaker:they were providing?
Speaker:Because the women that we were talking to were pretty
Speaker:much so much of the force, the full force of,
Speaker:of life, if they are, because so many of the
Speaker:men had been removed from their communities too. I don't
Speaker:know if they don't know where they went, but they
Speaker:didn't come back after the, the wall fell. So I
Speaker:don't know what happened to those men, but we thought
Speaker:let's go in and see what we can do, what
Speaker:there is available. As far as our resources go, we,
Speaker:we didn't know what we had no idea what to
Speaker:expect. And number one, we were told, you know, you
Speaker:shouldn't go in to the hospital because it will not
Speaker:be what you expect.
Speaker:So when the two of us walked in to the
Speaker:hospital, there would be just a, it was a single
Speaker:building, a single story. It wasn't two-story. And there were
Speaker:all of these beds and they just had these little
Speaker:curtains. And when we walked in, there was this lady
Speaker:who was screaming and she saw the two of us
Speaker:come in and the woman walked over and she was
Speaker:caring as a child. She was two years old, it
Speaker:was a baby. It was two years old. And she
Speaker:handed the baby to me. And there was blood everywhere.
Speaker:And the it's not like the baby, it was dripping
Speaker:blood, but it, it obviously the baby either he was
Speaker:in surgery or had an injury.
Speaker:I don't know why I found out what it was,
Speaker:but I didn't know at that time. And the mother
Speaker:is screaming in her language at me and the doctor
Speaker:comes running over and took the baby back from me.
Speaker:And he said this, you know, and obviously the baby
Speaker:had was dead. The baby had passed, passed, and the
Speaker:woman was upset. And so the doctor explained to me
Speaker:that she was telling me, she recognized us to be
Speaker:from the West, the Western world. And she was screaming
Speaker:at us that it is because one of the Western
Speaker:world that her baby is dead. And so I asked
Speaker:the doctor, I don't understand because the wall fell, I
Speaker:don't understand.
Speaker:He said, it's Bosnia Herzegovina. And he said, the Western
Speaker:world, remember this is in the nineties, the Western world
Speaker:didn't go in to help the people there. And, and
Speaker:so there was a lot of, of, of war time
Speaker:in that area. This woman came from a family of
Speaker:five. She had four kids and a husband and the
Speaker:baby, the youngest one was too young to journey with
Speaker:the husband and, and the rest of the siblings. So
Speaker:the mother stayed with the young one and he was
Speaker:going to try to journey because they were refugees and
Speaker:they were trying to escape.
Speaker:And so she was like, is going to stay as
Speaker:long as she could and try to figure out how
Speaker:they would get out, but the baby injured and the
Speaker:baby was how they got that child from the South
Speaker:over in to Lithuania the doctor was explaining to me,
Speaker:and it didn't make any sense to me, but the
Speaker:lack of resources. So I don't know how long that
Speaker:child, either on a helicopter or how the baby got
Speaker:up there with all of the traveling that was taking
Speaker:place. But the woman was so upset over two things,
Speaker:the death of her baby, and the fact that her
Speaker:husband, and remember, we didn't have cell phones back then
Speaker:she had no way of contacting or finding her husband
Speaker:and the other kids.
Speaker:And she had no idea where they were. And she
Speaker:was just in this horrible place, not, not the hospital,
Speaker:but in this horrible place in her life, losing her
Speaker:child and blaming it on the West and then not
Speaker:being able to contact her family. And that so changed.
Speaker:My life was number one, having this baby literally thrown
Speaker:into my arms who had passed. And I wasn't expecting
Speaker:that. And number two, hearing the story from the doctor
Speaker:about this woman and what her life was like. And
Speaker:so when I came back to the United States, I
Speaker:was, I was teaching.
Speaker:I told the students this story, and I said, you
Speaker:know, when you go to the grocery store, simple things
Speaker:like putting the cart in its spot makes a difference
Speaker:for people who work in the store. So don't, don't
Speaker:put that out carte in the middle of the parking
Speaker:lot. I mean, that's just such a little simple thing,
Speaker:the thing for little children to no, but tell your
Speaker:parents or work with your parents because this woman has
Speaker:lived through hell and I never found out. And I
Speaker:never we'll know if she ever found her husband again
Speaker:ever. And the doctor explained to me that there are
Speaker:a red cross workers that really work at documenting where
Speaker:these families are going.
Speaker:So he had hope that she will find her family
Speaker:again. And that also gave me inspiration that, Oh my
Speaker:gosh, these volunteers who are out there are documenting all
Speaker:of this. And then later on, when I did a
Speaker:show with an all hands and hearts, who is a
Speaker:group that goes out to green night, families lost in
Speaker:hurricanes and tornadoes and so on and to help build
Speaker:the, the towns again, that just brings back all those
Speaker:memories of that hospital visit and knowing that women was
Speaker:dispersed and the all hands and hearts, they do pretty
Speaker:much the same and they will help you re reunite
Speaker:your family.
Speaker:Of course, we have cell phones today and computers and
Speaker:more technology, but that visit, I mean, I cried and
Speaker:I cried for so long. In fact, right after that,
Speaker:I went up and I tried to get ahold of
Speaker:my husband on the phone because I was just so,
Speaker:so emotional after that visit. And then finding out that,
Speaker:that hospital, that country only had two ventilators on here.
Speaker:We were talking about ventilators today with COVID that a
Speaker:country had to ventilators for the entire country back then,
Speaker:it, it was just so it made me come back
Speaker:and do more work with the students that I was
Speaker:working with and to write more letters to congressmen, and
Speaker:to do more in Europe and to keep track of
Speaker:all of those people that I met in Europe and
Speaker:helped them anyway.
Speaker:I can so sorry, that that was kind of a
Speaker:long story.
Speaker:That's incredible. I can't even begin to imagine what that
Speaker:whole experience would have been like, how are we have
Speaker:got two young kids, 10 and eight year old, so
Speaker:I can only imagine they are and what that would
Speaker:feel like as a parent, but just as a human
Speaker:being. And that is incredible. And it's, I follow the
Speaker:work of our doctors without borders a lot. And I
Speaker:did a charity thing like 10 years ago or something.
Speaker:And there were a, one of the, the recipient's and
Speaker:their work's incredible. And they share that as you mentioned
Speaker:yourself, Kathryn, how often we go in to help, but
Speaker:we actually make things worse because we don't have any
Speaker:backup for what's next. After say we top a lot
Speaker:on a zoom or something like that.
Speaker:Right. That's right. That's right. And I, there were just
Speaker:so many things that, that happened in our world and,
Speaker:and you are correct in, and certain decisions we make,
Speaker:whether it be with people or with nature, putting our
Speaker:hand and getting involved sometimes makes it worse. And we
Speaker:don't know how to make it better. And I look
Speaker:back Chernobyl, you know, Chernobyl was, was such a catastrophe.
Speaker:And one of the things that I did when I
Speaker:came back from Lithuania was okay, I have to do
Speaker:something more.
Speaker:I have to do something more. So I joined an
Speaker:organization called children of Chernobyl, and that organization was United
Speaker:States-based. And I think it was actually United States and
Speaker:Canada based where we were bringing children from Chernobyl over
Speaker:to the States and Canada to have them x-rayed and
Speaker:checked for cancer so that we could help them and
Speaker:do something with the resources that we have available to
Speaker:us. And so we had a student to come from
Speaker:Chernobyl that we sponsored, and he was here, a Losha
Speaker:a cute little boy.
Speaker:And of course, he's not a boy today. And a,
Speaker:he was cancer-free and he was so happy. His brother
Speaker:was not, his brother was in a wheelchair due to
Speaker:his, due to the injury that he was at school,
Speaker:his brother. And so he had injuries from the, the
Speaker:radiation, everything in heat caused him to be in a
Speaker:wheelchair and other issues, cancer. And I'm sure he's no
Speaker:longer with us today, but that experience in Lithuania made
Speaker:me realize I have to do more than just what
Speaker:I'm doing. And it doesn't have to be only in
Speaker:my community because my community has worldwide. We, our citizens
Speaker:of the world, and that comes from Michael
One of the guests I had, he was so clear
Speaker:on sending that message to the listeners, that we are
Speaker:no longer citizens of our own community. We are citizens
Speaker:of the world. And now look, we have COVID. Yes.
Speaker:So we are citizens of the world. So anyway, the
Speaker:children of Chernobyl, and when I was out in the
Speaker:Lithuania, I wanted to go to Bellaruse to go visit
Speaker:a Losha Alexa, but the, the peop the people that
Speaker:do the visa over there, however, it works. They said,
Speaker:if you come here first, before you go to Lithuania,
Speaker:then you may, but otherwise we're not going to give
Speaker:you a visa to come to Bellaruse.
Speaker:And well, if my schedule didn't allow for that. And
Speaker:so they said that you can't come. And so I
Speaker:didn't get a visa to go into Belarusian. I just
Speaker:wanted to go see a lexicon, but the things were
Speaker:still very unsettled.
Speaker:And, and, and that part of that part by my
Speaker:car that I had mentioned, we are a global citizens.
Speaker:Now that you've mentioned COVID and I have to laugh
Speaker:when I see some of the ammo, the skeptics and
Speaker:the conspiracy theorists saying, well, it's all a fake disease
Speaker:to come to have the government controls, et cetera. I
Speaker:mean, how else would we get this vaccine so quickly?
Speaker:It had steady 10 years. And, but then you think,
Speaker:well, I've never had really an issue like this, but
Speaker:we've had to have the global science community will work
Speaker:together to come back out there. So of course it
Speaker:has gotta be fast. And so, yeah, this is going
Speaker:to be a risk and danger, but just because something's
Speaker:coming together fast, it doesn't mean it's false. It's just,
Speaker:we've never really had the, the need to get so
Speaker:many scientists from all parts of the world working on
Speaker:one single problem.
Speaker:And, and you know, it, it, yes and no, because
Speaker:when you look at hu, so I had someone on
Speaker:the show with who, and he worked, he's an American,
Speaker:and he's living in, in Switzerland closer. Well, that's where
Speaker:his, where, who is, but he was working with researchers
Speaker:and gynecologists and midwives all around the world, which is
Speaker:exciting because you're learning not just what the science is,
Speaker:but also with the different cultures or doing, and granted,
Speaker:most of the research was coming from the Western States.
Speaker:So yes, you will be correct that a lot of
Speaker:these countries who haven't been involved in the research before
Speaker:are involved now, so yes, Danny, I get what you're
Speaker:saying and is absolutely true. And, and it's, it is
Speaker:exciting. And maybe, you know, maybe that will bring less,
Speaker:I'm going to say it in a more positive way.
Speaker:Maybe that will bring more of a, of a larger
Speaker:table to come together with our leaders to build more,
Speaker:to build a better and a more lasting political relationship
Speaker:with a little bit more in mind with the people
Speaker:in a way.
Speaker:I know that, and I know what a lot of
Speaker:people were talking about them, the opportunity for the great
Speaker:reset it. And I think as you imagine, Catherine, this
Speaker:is an opportunity as a tragic opportunity. And to many
Speaker:people have died, it didn't need to die, but hopefully
Speaker:we can take that and land from that. And as
Speaker:you mentioned, make sure we learn from it and put
Speaker:it in a, it plays out to be a more
Speaker:global, you know, network, if you like,
Speaker:You know, and yes, and this is something that you
Speaker:asked me, you know, earlier about what inspires me are
Speaker:what really add so much to me doing the show.
Speaker:And so I wanted to bring up Aspen he's from
Speaker:Norway, he's a nurse when COVID hit. And it was
Speaker:at it's a, well, of course we were at our
Speaker:second peek, but when it hit and people didn't know
Speaker:what was going on, I knew he was a nurse,
Speaker:an emergency room, and I reached out to him. And
Speaker:then when we'd have been Talking, you know, cause we'd
Speaker:become friends with he and his girlfriend and, and Bernie
Speaker:this other fellow in, in, in, in Norway.
Speaker:But I reached out to him because I knew he
Speaker:was at the emergency room and, you know, it just
Speaker:made him feel so good to know that somebody's outside
Speaker:of Norway was he was looking in an and checking
Speaker:in 'cause it was emotional for our healthcare workers. It
Speaker:was scary for healthcare workers. It's still is and so
Speaker:on. And I had, you know, several conversations and then
Speaker:I reached out to a couple of other people and
Speaker:in Africa and one in Australia and kept up my
Speaker:communication with, with these folks because they need it. And
Speaker:I think that that is one of the gifts that
Speaker:I can provide are maybe not a GIF, but one
Speaker:of the things that I can do to give back
Speaker:is, you know what, we're here for each other, like
Speaker:you say, and this is an opportunity and opportunity.
Speaker:None of us wanted, none of us wanted this, but
Speaker:we have to take it and we have to make
Speaker:good with it instead of being a naysayer and instead
Speaker:being negative about the whole thing, just make good out
Speaker:of it, the best that we can, the best that
Speaker:we can.
Speaker:Your your shoulders know. And it's third, you know, I
Speaker:think it launched in 2018. It was the summer of
Speaker:2018. We launched
Speaker:No, that was when I started the website and started
Speaker:working with Mark. I actually put the trailer out at
Speaker:Christmas in December of 2018, but my launch was actually
Speaker:January, 2019 with my first guest, my first guest being
Speaker:Mary Shields, but the first woman to enter the idea
Speaker:to rod and we had so much fun. And then
Speaker:it just went from there. It was. Yeah.
Speaker:So where are you goals with the shore? No. Enter
Speaker:in your life. I guess it's almost to your, Talking
Speaker:sorry. So almost two years of entering your third year,
Speaker:what are your goals for the show either with the,
Speaker:the, the format or the guests or growing up or
Speaker:scale and are taking it offline to, to, you know,
Speaker:share what you're learning of online to the offline community?
Speaker:What, what are your plans for it?
Speaker:So what I'm working on right now is we speak,
Speaker:I had to go to every other week with a
Speaker:brand new guests, but keeping to my every Monday I
Speaker:launch. So I launched on Mondays Your Positive imprint.com and
Speaker:all of the podcast platforms. But on that alternate week,
Speaker:I am doing either a re edited of someone I
Speaker:had on the show or a conversation, or just a,
Speaker:you know, a commentary because I'm doing the logistics for
Speaker:t-shirts, but also I want to do a live show
Speaker:and I'm working on the logistics on this, where I
Speaker:have guests that I've had around the world raw.
Speaker:I have three of them on are four of them
Speaker:during a series where the listeners can ask them questions
Speaker:about culture, about maybe COVID, how are you, what do
Speaker:you do for COVID out there about, you know, how
Speaker:you grew up, are the struggles you had that you
Speaker:mentioned on the show, you know, elaborate on it, et
Speaker:cetera. So I've already talked to some of the folks
Speaker:that I've had on the show, and yes, they would
Speaker:like to do that. And now it's just working on
Speaker:logistics, which I might just ask you when we're done
Speaker:here. Some of the logistics on doing live, because I,
Speaker:I need it to be aware that the listeners can
Speaker:see them, not just hear them, but to see them.
Speaker:And we're listeners can, can not just do the chatbox,
Speaker:but somehow get them involved because getting to know each
Speaker:other around the world, on each other's cultures and seeing
Speaker:that, Oh my gosh, this person in Nigeria is doing
Speaker:the same type of thing that I have been working
Speaker:on all of these years. So that's what I, what
Speaker:I'm working on now. And that's, that's a big, big
Speaker:undertaking, and it takes a lot of time and a
Speaker:lot of logistics and of course the new pieces of
Speaker:technology or that I have to purchase. So I'm so
Speaker:excited about it though, because the guest's that I taught
Speaker:to the former guests, I talk to who that I
Speaker:ask them.
Speaker:They are, they're very excited about it. And it just,
Speaker:I don't know, I'm just, I get really excited about
Speaker:it because there's just such amazing, amazing friends I've met
Speaker:through this podcast around the world. And, and yeah,
Speaker:And then we would just be like a, sort of
Speaker:a round a table, like a live round table with
Speaker:three to four guests on it, the same time and
Speaker:you sort of bounce back. And would it be sort
Speaker:of then, would you sort of be looking for people
Speaker:that have a sort of interconnected story because of either
Speaker:their industry, their jobs, the work they're doing, or would
Speaker:it be disbarred for people with different stories to, to
Speaker:get a wider?
Speaker:So, no, it would be the two different stories because
Speaker:the listener's are used to be very broad. So I
Speaker:kind of wanna keep to that platform. Ah, and I
Speaker:have listeners, you know, all over the world. So I
Speaker:want to be sure that I have guests, you know,
Speaker:from different parts of the world each time we do
Speaker:this. And that doesn't mean that the person from Australia,
Speaker:that all of the Australian listeners are going to just
Speaker:ask questions with the Australians. They are going to want
Speaker:to know about, you know, the rest of the people
Speaker:in the world. And it's just, I think that it's
Speaker:just something hopeful that I have to bring to the
Speaker:listeners and to more listeners and new listeners, thee the
Speaker:coming together of, of, of nations, if you will, but
Speaker:really it's the coming together of citizens of the world.
Speaker:And that's how I view it. And I love Michael
Speaker:Pereira for saying that on the podcast, because I, I
Speaker:use that often.
Speaker:That's what I'm looking forward to that. So that sounds
Speaker:like a really cool live event, almost like a, almost
Speaker:like a mini Podcaster kind of, you know, we all
Speaker:have the audience and I end up on stage, he
Speaker:got there, the interviewer and interviewee that. So, you know,
Speaker:I'll, I'll be looking at it for that coming to
Speaker:life. For sure.
Speaker:Yes, I will too. So it's going to have it,
Speaker:it's just taking a little bit, a lot of time
Speaker:and a lot of research. So yeah,
Speaker:No, if someone is bad, it's part of this podcast
Speaker:journey from obviously the ideation and then the implementation, etc.
Speaker:What would be maybe your advice to our new podcast
Speaker:of someone that wants to do something similar to yourself,
Speaker:for example, and interview people that are inspired by or
Speaker:are just really come in to the podcast in the
Speaker:community?
Speaker:Oh, my advice hasn't changed. My advice from the beginning
Speaker:has always been, you must be true to yourself and
Speaker:be passionate about what it is you're doing. Do not
Speaker:do something that you think will that is going to
Speaker:give you a name or make money. No, you need
Speaker:to stay true to yourself a and that, that goal,
Speaker:or keep that dream. Ah, and that's important. There's a,
Speaker:you know, as we, as you know, there's over a
Speaker:million podcasts now and when you listen to some of
Speaker:the podcast, at least when I say, you know, I
Speaker:listen to a lot of podcasts and some of them,
Speaker:you hear the, the host and there are not, it
Speaker:doesn't sound like they're being true to themselves.
Speaker:It sounds like they're trying to be what they want
Speaker:the listeners to be. And the listeners don't want that
Speaker:they want Gen. They want authenticity. And I, and I
Speaker:know I bring that to the show. I know that
Speaker:I do 'cause the guests are authentic and I'm authentic.
Speaker:And yeah. So the advice to start a podcast and
Speaker:the other advice technology-wise, don't spend money. You don't need
Speaker:to spend money on these elaborate mikes because the mics
Speaker:actually, you know, the things that I have that you
Speaker:know, that we see a podcast movement, they are not
Speaker:elaborate prices. You know, you can get a really good
Speaker:Mic $99.
Speaker:And, and so when you don't have to spend 500,
Speaker:$600,
Speaker:No, I love the fact that you mentioned the, the
Speaker:authenticity, because they think to your point of passionate, you
Speaker:can tell if someone's not into what they're doing in
Speaker:the Mat-Su as a quick sidekick for, you know, I
Speaker:can get advertisers or sponsors, whatever, and that's all of
Speaker:the reason they start a show and it's just like,
Speaker:you see it shorts, you know, it's a, I, I
Speaker:love the fact that you mentioned authenticity, you know, both
Speaker:for the guests as well. You know, obviously you've had
Speaker:a lot of inspiring people a day on your personal
Speaker:life and be on your show and, and you've gotten
Speaker:to know them. Who would you say is your all-time
Speaker:hero or heroes and why?
Speaker:Oh, my husband. And so this would be off the
Speaker:podcast. A guest list, of course, is the most inspiring
Speaker:for me. It has been my husband and to my
Speaker:parents and my, and my family really, because they're the
Speaker:ones that are your ultimate supporters and the ultimate Love's
Speaker:of your life. So no matter what happens is, you
Speaker:know, my husband is there every step of the way,
Speaker:holding my hand, loving me and, and, and my parents.
Speaker:And, and then of course the siblings. So yeah, I
Speaker:guess in a sense, that's, you know, a family cliche,
Speaker:if you want to call it that because everyone, everyone
Speaker:says that, but everyone says that because it's the truth.
Speaker:You know, if, if you don't have that support there
Speaker:of your family unit, then it's really a, I, I
Speaker:feel badly for people who don't have the support of
Speaker:their family unit, because it sad that they don't so
Speaker:truly, truly mine is there. And, and, and definitely my
Speaker:dog, my little mock a dog, but I think as
Speaker:far as the guests go, I would have to say
Speaker:that the one's that are the most inspiring and most
Speaker:a supportive for me are the ones that continue to
Speaker:keep in touch with me.
Speaker:And then that makes a true difference for me because
Speaker:it wasn't just, I had you on the show and
Speaker:now they're off in the sunset doing their thing I
Speaker:actually hear from, and it's not like I need to
Speaker:hear from them every day, but I hear from them
Speaker:every once in awhile. And that makes a difference for
Speaker:me.
Speaker:And, and you've mentioned, obviously, if you have your father
Speaker:up, unfortunately passed, you know, before the show was launched,
Speaker:it was a big drive and, you know, force with
Speaker:the, the, the ideas and the direction. What would you
Speaker:think your dad would have made of it? How do
Speaker:you got to listen to them?
Speaker:My dad would have been on the phone every day
Speaker:telling me I listened to it. I loved it. And
Speaker:he would have been telling me this person, do you
Speaker:remember when we did this in the wilderness? And I
Speaker:mentioned this to you, well, this is exactly what I
Speaker:was teaching you. And, and ah, so dad was a
Speaker:philosopher and he taught me about life using the constellations.
Speaker:And so I learned, and North, South, East, and West,
Speaker:he was a navigator in the air force. And so
Speaker:I learned about life literally from stories that he told.
Speaker:And he used a lot of visuals because I'm a
Speaker:visual learner. My mom is very logical and, and it
Speaker:was more difficult for me to learn from, or to
Speaker:understand the logic when you're growing up.
Speaker:But dad taught me through story. So these stories that
Speaker:people tell are very visual and I learned from them,
Speaker:and that reminds me of my dad everyday. So dad
Speaker:would say, I know dad is thrilled and he he's
Speaker:listening to the stories now. And I would, I do
Speaker:wish I would have been able to have him on
Speaker:the show because he's one of the best teachers I've
Speaker:ever had in my entire life, because he did understand
Speaker:how I need to learn about life. And that was
Speaker:through visual and also through writing my dad and I
Speaker:share poetry and Stories together. And we wrote poetry together
Speaker:through the years.
Speaker:And I so missed that and enjoy that. So that's
Speaker:something that I have done on the show was I
Speaker:have shared some of that poetry and dad would know,
Speaker:and I've written, poet's poems. Her dad and dad would
Speaker:be very tough, but he would be. And he is,
Speaker:he is so proud that I have taken everything that
Speaker:he taught me and have turned it into a worldwide
Speaker:lesson for everybody because dad is like that too. He
Speaker:w he wasn't just there for us. He was there
Speaker:for the community and he, he was not just one
Speaker:that made out a check and sent it to people.
Speaker:He said, kids, we're going to go to wherever these
Speaker:places were to help these children to help these elderly,
Speaker:to help the unfortunate, to help build a wheelchair ramps
Speaker:at their house, because now there are in a wheelchair
Speaker:and they have no ramp, but they can't afford to
Speaker:put it in themselves. So we saw dad do all
Speaker:of all of that. And that of course, made me
Speaker:the person I am today. And because of that, I
Speaker:want to continue dad's work. And that's truly what I
Speaker:am doing is, is continuing his work.
Speaker:It was incredible. Let's see if I can tell when
Speaker:I listen to the show is like a set up,
Speaker:but how would the episodes I listen to, I, I
Speaker:can tell that connection you have for your guests, but
Speaker:also because of your personal background and what's, you know,
Speaker:going on in your own life, that is, you're genuinely
Speaker:doing that because of what you just shared now. So
Speaker:that's, that's, it's cool. Cool. Such a cliche. Well, I
Speaker:apologize for using that, but that was cool to find
Speaker:out what, where that came from and how much of
Speaker:an impact obviously your family is on the show and
Speaker:your life, obviously.
Speaker:Yes. And I'm I value, Oh, I value that tremendously
Speaker:and miss it tremendously. Yeah. I have them sitting here
Speaker:staring at a picture of my dad right there. He
Speaker:sits here with me every day.
Speaker:So you'd be in a co-host on the show almost.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:Absolutely. And, and, and my mom, wow. Does she ever
Speaker:support the show? And of course my whole family and
Speaker:my friends, but yeah. Okay. But to answer yo