In the episode, Jacquie interviews Brendan Kelly, the host of What The Funnel podcast and the only funnel designer who focuses specifically on your avatar (or dream customer) to help your funnel be successful.

"No matter what works and doesn't work inside your funnel, it ALWAYS comes back to The Ultimate Avatar."

You can reach Brendan at the links below:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-the-funnel/id1470847523

https://funnelavatar.com/notifications28914770

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