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Joseph Okaly:Hello, and welcome to the Enjoy More 30s: Family
Joseph Okaly:Finance podcast. This is episode number six in the initial
Joseph Okaly:series, "Your Money Mindset", and it's titled "Investments
Joseph Okaly:Should Be Boring". So we're going to cover what you need to
Joseph Okaly:know about why your investment approach should be boring, and
Joseph Okaly:what you can do to make sure that it stays that way. Now,
Joseph Okaly:when I was a kid, like many boys, I wanted a really cool
Joseph Okaly:fast car. I'd watch movies with these fast cars and all sorts of
Joseph Okaly:things, and I obviously wanted to do that too. I probably
Joseph Okaly:watched "Gone in 60 Seconds" a million times and said you know,
Joseph Okaly:"I want one of these old fast cars that I could do tricks in
Joseph Okaly:and, you know, be generally very unsafe in." I kept the Motor
Joseph Okaly:Trend magazine's, I looked at all the new models and
Joseph Okaly:everything else. And then you fast forward to me today, and
Joseph Okaly:well, I drive a Subaru. It's not particularly fast. I bought it
Joseph Okaly:because it's known for being safe, and it has a good
Joseph Okaly:reputation for being reliable. And essentially, I feel like I
Joseph Okaly:can put my family into the car, and we can go to, you know,
Joseph Okaly:wherever we're wanting to go to safely. And that's what turned
Joseph Okaly:out to be the most important to me when it comes to my car for
Joseph Okaly:where I am today.
Joseph Okaly:So what you need to know is people can kind of be the same
Joseph Okaly:with investments. We watch movies of people trying to time
Joseph Okaly:the stock market and hit it big- and we may think of the stock
Joseph Okaly:market then as a fancy shiny car. And because everybody kind
Joseph Okaly:of has investments, it can sometimes make it feel not quite
Joseph Okaly:so reckless to take this approach. We're just kind of
Joseph Okaly:emulating what we may see on TV with buy low, and sell high and,
Joseph Okaly:you know, all this kind of stuff. And it's, in my opinion,
Joseph Okaly:a reckless approach to be taking when it's the most important
Joseph Okaly:tool you probably have when you're trying to determine what
Joseph Okaly:your future is going to turn into.
Joseph Okaly:So when you hear me say boring, 'what does that mean exactly?'
Joseph Okaly:is probably the question that you're asking. So I'll first
Joseph Okaly:start off by saying what it doesn't mean. It does not mean
Joseph Okaly:leaving all your money in the bank, with no real upward
Joseph Okaly:potential long term. If you leave all your money and save in
Joseph Okaly:the bank, you're probably not going to reach the goals that
Joseph Okaly:you're setting out for yourself. If you do, it's certainly going
Joseph Okaly:to take you much, much longer than it necessarily has to by
Joseph Okaly:trying to do it that way. What it really comes down to is two
Joseph Okaly:main points. The first is staying diversified, and two is
Joseph Okaly:not touching it.
So for number one:staying diversified. My industry likes
So for number one:using a lot of jargon terms that confuse people, but diversified
So for number one:is really just a fancy way of saying 'don't have all your eggs
So for number one:in one basket'. If you think about your 401(k) statement,
So for number one:that's probably the easiest place to relate to, and you look
So for number one:at all the investment options- what you probably see are 20 to
So for number one:30 different individual options. In those titles, you'll see
So for number one:words such as large cap growth this, or small cap value that,
So for number one:or foreign this, or emerging markets that. These are all
So for number one:different areas of the market, the global market. And some of
So for number one:these are stock funds, where you're buying equity or
So for number one:ownership in companies. Others can be bond funds, and that
So for number one:would be kind of like if you- the easiest way, again, is whe
So for number one:you received government sav ngs bonds from the U.S. gov
So for number one:rnment when your gra dparents probably gave those to
So for number one:ou. That's basically the gov rnment having money loaned to
So for number one:hem, you're loaning them you money, and they're paying you
So for number one:an interest rate off of tha . That's how a CD works. Tha
So for number one:'s how any bond debt kind of ins rument works. Corporations lik
So for number one:Apple, Coca Cola, etc. they do hat too to raise money for th
So for number one:mselves.
So for number one:So there's all these different areas that you can invest in.
So for number one:The thing about it is despite what you may see on TV or what
So for number one:anybody proclaims, nobody has a crystal ball to know which areas
So for number one:are going to do really, really well in any one year, and a
So for number one:crystal ball to know which areas are going to do really, really
So for number one:poorly in any one year. And so we don't want to really be
So for number one:trying to time, or guess, what areas are really fantastic and
So for number one:are really going to do well, and what areas aren't. Because
So for number one:that's when people tend to get into trouble. If you think about
So for number one:all these finance experts, or self proclaimed experts out
So for number one:there, if any of them was really able to do that, everybody's
So for number one:money would probably be with them by now, right? If they
So for number one:could consistently say which area is always going to do the
So for number one:best, they probably would draw a lot of attention. They certainly
So for number one:would be drawing attention from people in the industry like me.
So for number one:When we're staying diversified, that means that we're keeping
So for number one:pieces in all of these different areas. We're kind of, you know,
So for number one:we're acknowledging the fact that we don't know which area is
So for number one:going to do really well, or really poorly in any one year,
So for number one:but long term, all of these different areas should go up in
So for number one:value. Long term, if we have a little bit in different pieces,
So for number one:it should take us in the correct upward direction- again, long
So for number one:term. Any one year things can go down, they can go up. But long
So for number one:term, if we spread out everything all the time, we're
So for number one:giving ourselves a much better chance of going in the right
So for number one:upward direction as time goes on.
So for number one:For number two, not touching it, this is much more
So for number one:straightforward. Unfortunately, 2020 is probably a really good
So for number one:example. If you're watching the news, or maybe even watching
So for number one:your accounts, in March or so most things went down 20-30%.
So for number one:And then they proceeded to rebound in the next few months,
So for number one:and we ended 2020 with most categories, or most areas of the
So for number one:market that we just kind of touched on briefly, positive.
So for number one:Some were very positive, double digit positive. Now the people
So for number one:that panicked, and moved their money out when it was low, were
So for number one:the ones that completely now lost their ability to recover-
So for number one:that recovery already happened. So they can invest now, but
So for number one:they're investing after everything has already gone up.
So for number one:And that's the thing that most people run into, and it's not
So for number one:something that I can blame them for at all. Emotionally, when
So for number one:you see those numbers decreasing, it fills you with
So for number one:fear, it fills you with anxiety- that's perfectly natural, you're
So for number one:watching something go down. However, if you're reacting on
So for number one:those emotions, that's where you can get yourself in some
So for number one:trouble. When they do studies on how much value an advisor
So for number one:actually adds for the people that they work with, the biggest
So for number one:contributing factor to that, oftentimes, is helping people
So for number one:with the behavioral element. Avoiding rash, emotional
So for number one:decisions when it comes to investments is generally a sound
So for number one:approach to be taken.
So for number one:So what can you do? The first is to kind of treat your
So for number one:investments more like a Subaru. We're trying to use them to get
So for number one:your family to its destination- that's our mindset. We're not
So for number one:trying to jump in a sports car and get them to their goals, you
So for number one:know, potentially at 200 miles per hour, but also with a very
So for number one:high likelihood of crashing. We're trying to go in the right
So for number one:direction and get there safely. If you're a do-it-yourselfer, we
So for number one:never recommend creating your own allocations. So for your
So for number one:401(k), again, if you look, "oh, they have all these different
So for number one:funds, I could pick some of this, I can pick some of that."
So for number one:If you're not a professional that's trained and can do this
So for number one:on a regular basis and has knowledge and experience, then
So for number one:we do not at all recommend doing that. Most 401(k) plans offer
So for number one:you what they call target date funds. So if you're looking at
So for number one:your list of investment options, you may see a phone that says
So for number one:the Retired 2045 Fund or the Retired 2050 Fund. What these
So for number one:funds are, are an easy way to get broader diversification, a
So for number one:broader spreading your money out, all in one fund. So what
So for number one:the fund does, is it says 'this person says they're going to
So for number one:retire in 2045'. That means I can be more aggressive today,
So for number one:because we're still 20 plus years away, and when we get
So for number one:closer to 2045, we're going to make it naturally more
So for number one:conservative because they're getting closer to the
So for number one:retirement. So this is a very basic way to get a larger level
So for number one:of diversification without having to make those decisions
So for number one:on your own, when if this is not your profession, you're probably
So for number one:not qualified to be doing that. Outside of a 401(k), they have
So for number one:something called allocation funds. So it may be the Vanguard
So for number one:Moderate Growth Allocation Fund, or the Franklin Templeton
So for number one:Conservative Allocation Fund, or whatever it might be. And you
So for number one:can match the level of risk that you're wanting to take, or
So for number one:that's appropriate to be taking, for each of your individual
So for number one:accounts. If you are using an advisor, they, in my opinion,
So for number one:should be giving you very similar advice to this. While
So for number one:they may have an expertise in designing their own allocations,
So for number one:in my opinion, it should be very much an invested everywhere all
So for number one:the time kind of a mindset. If your advisor speaks about
So for number one:tactical, or moving to cash, or forward looking projections, or
So for number one:anything like that, that's generally code for trying to
So for number one:guess what's going to do well, which I definitely am not a
So for number one:proponent of.
So for number one:In closing let's take a quick look at some of these main
So for number one:points that we covered today. The first is take a step back
So for number one:and look at how your mindset currently is when it comes to
So for number one:dealing with your investments. Are you looking at them as a
So for number one:tool? Are you looking at them as kind of the Subaru- I want this
So for number one:tool to be able to take me and my family to reach my goals. Or
So for number one:are you looking at it as more of a Hollywood fast car, and maybe
So for number one:that's not the approach that you really want to be taking. The
So for number one:second point is being diversified is a way to spread
So for number one:your money out everywhere all the time, because we aren't ever
So for number one:sure which area is going to do really well or really poorly,
So for number one:but long term, they should be taking us in the right, general
So for number one:upward direction. The last is when it comes to the emotional
So for number one:part of it and not touching it. 2020 may seem unique, 2008
So for number one:seemed unique. There is going to almost certainly be multiple
So for number one:more stressful situations, emotional situations where
So for number one:you're going to see your account go down in value. Lastly,
So for number one:remember there are tools such as target date funds, and
So for number one:allocation funds, that can help if you're not using an advisor
So for number one:who can assist with these allocations, that can give you a
So for number one:level of diversification that most likely is better than you
So for number one:trying to do something like this on your own.
So for number one:As always, thanks for tuning in. If you enjoyed this episode,
So for number one:please make sure to review us on Apple podcast or wherever you
So for number one:listen. There are literally millions of young American
So for number one:families out there that I'm trying to reach and help just
So for number one:like you. The final episode in this initial series is going to
So for number one:be coming up shortly, and its title is "Aren't Advisors for
So for number one:Old People?" So there are some things that we may be taught
So for number one:subconsciously through what we see on TV, and what we think of
So for number one:when it comes to an advisor, that may not necessarily be
So for number one:true. It's been great talking with you today and I look
So for number one:forward to connecting with you again soon.
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