The saddest song in the world: A piece so full of despair that many are rumored to have taken their own lives while listening to it. Music doesn’t get much darker than that, and in today’s episode we explore the history and legend behind Rezső Seress’s “Gloomy Sunday”.

Frequently referred to as “the Hungarian suicide song”, Gloomy Sunday has been covered by many artists in genres spanning from classical (Kronos Quartet) to punk (Dead Milkmen). We share our own version of the song at the end of the episode.

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Wendy, I'm looking at the window here, and all I see are

clouds. And all I have seen is clouds all

day and raining. It is the perfect

day for a sad song. How how's the weather where you are right

now? Well, it's sunny, but,

you know Okay. Great. Not everybody is always happy

in the sun. So No. I'm vampires talking about sad

songs. Okay. Vampires hate it. No. I had a great moment today.

It was it's been just gloomy, gloomy all day

long, but I live right next to a daycare. Right?

So I live right next to a daycare, and it must have been recess time

or whatever because I could hear the kids playing and everything outside

in a cloudy day. But then all of a sudden,

it started pouring. Like, out of nowhere, it just started pouring, and

you could hear them all scream. That's funny.

Just so just the sound of just terrified screaming

children out the window made for

a just an excellent day and an inspiring day. No. It

didn't think so, Mike. That's a scenario I had never contemplated

before. It just so I just couldn't stop laughing because I'm

like, oh, man. They're getting wet. Cruel.

So, no. It's been terrifically gloomy today, which I think is the

perfect day to talk about sad songs. What's the

saddest song you think you've ever heard? Oh my gosh.

Like, one, every time you hear it, you're like, oh, well.

Oh, gee. Now you're putting me on the spot, and I can't think of 1.

Well, while you think of it, the saddest songs that I ever hear now there's

modern bands that make sad songs. You know, I think Radiohead just Mike that's their

business is that Tom York, whenever you hear an interview with him, he sounds like

it, like, oh, I'm a happy well adjusted guy, but he he writes songs

Mike as soon as the song's done, I'm just gonna go walk off off this

window. You know? See you. Bye. Like, he's like, I'm you know, I hope

my elevator doesn't you know, I just I think that, Thom Yorke as a

Radiohead writes some really sad songs. That's true. But

nothing is sad. And there's a lot of folk artists that are kinda

sad. Damien Rice writes some sad songs with the violin, but

the saddest music is music from the Civil War.

Yeah. You know, you listen to a song from the Civil War. You ever

hear anything like that, and you just picture somebody laying in the grass

or whatever. You know, it's like, ah, no. I need my leg amputated

or something like that. I just shot my brother. Like, it's it's horrible.

Okay. So Well, that that brings to Mike, actually, Mike, the Schindler's

List theme song. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's

particularly heart Wendy. I mean, because movie

that's one I'd have to say is in the top. Right. Nobody nobody's Mike, hey,

there's a party tonight. And it's Mike, well, put on the Schindler's List soundtrack. You

know, let's get it started. Right. Right. Exactly.

Yeah. But that's so there's some sad really sad stuff. That's the saddest

music I can think of. It's probably the associations with the civil war are the

associations of dying, you know, and, obviously,

Schindler's List has an association with the holocaust. You know?

But, you know, I I think we should talk about a little bit about the

saddest song in the world. Oh Mike gosh.

And how do we how do we figure that out? Like Well, I I

think we can figure it out because there's a song that's

absolutely so sad that

they said it led people to killing themselves. And

we'll talk about subliminal we'll talk about subliminal messages and backwards

masking in another episode where

people were saying that certain bands were trying to get their trying to

get their fans to kill themselves and stuff like that with subliminal messages. This is

a song with no subliminal messages or anything like that. This is a

song that's just so completely depressing that you

hear it and the notes and the words, make you wanna

kill yourself. That's crazy. Like, it it accesses a little

spot in your brain that that makes you. Yeah. It's it's music is

mind control. It's Wow. Kinda thing. So Okay. So

there is such a song. You're saying there's a song out there. We probably shouldn't

air it. Well, okay. We'll we'll talk about that in a second.

Okay. And we're not there's also a movie called the saddest song in the

world that came out a few years ago. This is there's nothing to do with

the movie or anything like that. This is the saddest song in the world,

and it's known as the Hungarian suicide

song. And that's, like, a depressing thing right there just to be,

like, yeah, the Hungarian suicides. Because,

Hungary is not known as a happy

place. Right. Right. When you think of Hungarian music, you

think of kind of a Mike key and that type of

Yeah. You think of gypsies, actually. I think I think the hungary or, you know,

I think of gypsies or the the Roma people. Sure. Yeah.

So okay. Let's talk a little bit about in the in the US, it

was it was known as Gloomy Sunday. So that's I like that name

a little bit better. Than the Hungarian suicide song? Yeah. It's

weird. When you try to buy, you know, on record, it wasn't really a popular

record. It was Mike, this song will make you kill yourself.

Like a marketing point? Yeah. Mike, you know, like, that would be on the poster

or whatever. Like, you walk into Sam Goody or Virgin or

whatever, and you're, like, hey, you got that new Suicide track. Oh. It what? No.

It was really popular among goths and cutters.

It's not. Okay. No. I no. It's not. Alright. But let's just

start a little history of the Hungarian suicide

song. Okay. And it was written by Hungarian composer,

Retso Sarres in 1933.

So it is 81 years old this year. I mean,

so that was very early on in the when the

first when were the first recordings, like, accessible to

people? Mike, the Victorola and whatnot. Mike Well, no. They were doing I

mean, they were doing that in the early 19 100 in the late 18th Okay.

And stuff like that. I mean, I just I was wondering if if, like,

if it had to be played live, you know, that would that would change the

dynamic of Right. That would make everything like, it's like, yeah.

Yeah. No. We're gonna play for your song. It's gonna make you kill yourself tonight.

Nobody did that. Right. Because we've you know, I've see I've done shows where

people leave the room, but that's an all altogether different kind of

experience. No. There's I've themselves. I've been at shows where I wanted

to kill myself because of listening to the band. I mean, that's that's not

even that weird. Okay. So there's a couple of different accounts about

how this song came to be. One was that he wrote it as

the song was called The World is Ending. Mhmm. That that

sounds that sounds very Cheerful track. Yeah. And that's

a that's a song about war, and, obviously,

1933 were not too far after the end of the First World War,

where Hungary was part of the empire that lost. So there's, you know

Okay. That's you know, the Germans and the Austro Hungarians and the Turks

all lost together on that one. It's a it's

a depressing song written in a depressing place at a depressing

time in 1933. And that's that's one of the

the rumors of how the song was created. The other rumor is

that his girlfriend left him before it was written, and that's what inspired the

sad melody. So those are both pretty depressing things.

Or maybe the combination of of awful things in that

guy's life Let him to write it. Add to the really

sad melody about the gloomy Sunday became. But, there was

a Hungarian poet, Laszlo Javor, who added his own

lyrics after the song was released, and that's when the song became

popular. And let me go over a little bit with you

the English translation of the lyrics to gloomy

Sunday. Alright. Lay it on me. On a sad

Sunday with a 100 white flowers, I was waiting for you, my dear,

with a church prayer, that dream chasing Sunday morning, the

chariot of my sadness returned without you. Okay.

Pretty sad so far. Ever ever since then,

Sundays are always sad. Tears are my drink, and sorrow

is my bread. Sad Sunday.

Getting a little sadder. Last Sunday, my dear.

Please come along. There will even be a priest, coffin, a

cattle falc. I don't know what a cattle falc is. A

hearse cloth. Even then flowers will be awaiting you. Flowers

and coffin. Under blossoming trees, my journey shall be

the last. My eyes will be open so that I can see you

one more time. Do not be afraid of my eyes as I am blessing you

even in my death last Sunday. Oh my

gosh. Yeah. Guy needs a hug so bad. I was gonna say, Laszlo,

brother. Like, we are a date or something like

that to cheer him up because that yeah. That was a I wanna, like, buy

some Ben and Jerry's and go over to his house and, like Right.

Give him a hug and Sure. No. I mean, let's just go through and let's

watch some Netflix and relax. Right. Exactly. You can wear your

sweats. It'll be fine. Like Yes. We've all had those moments. It's like,

hey. There's chips. Mike. It's a I mean,

someone dies and their lover contemplates suicide, they join them in death.

So it's a fairly, yeah, gloomy Sunday. It's it's pretty sad.

It's very sad. And so,

it got the newer version gets recorded in 1935, and that's

when it becomes really popular. And that's when it becomes

linked to different suicides in in Hungary. And so they're

writing about this in the newspaper, and it's claimed that a woman in Vienna

drowned herself and was clutching clutching the sheet music in her hands to the

song. Oh my gosh. In Budapest, the shopkeeper killed himself

and quoted this song in in his suicide note.

So much so I mean, Time Magazine writes about the song twice.

Once in 9 once in 1936 and once in 1937.

They talk about a woman that hung herself and laid the sheet music at her

feet. There's a claim that it's been banned

by the police in Budapest. They

say a man in Indianapolis hired a soloist to play this song to him while

he drank a glass of of poisoned beer. Oh my

gosh. No. And it get you're right. It gets mentioned by the Los Angeles

Times in 1936 as well. And so this is up I mean, this is a

song where even back in the 19 thirties, they're saying people

are killing themselves after listening to Gloomy Sunday.

But do you think it's because, like, after they listen to it or do you

think they listen to it and they related to it so much? Or,

you know, they're depressed people, so they're listening to sad things, and then

they're like, oh, this resonates so much with what I'm going through. I'm gonna clutch

it in my hands Yeah. As I drown myself or whatever. Right. I

think these are people who are living through the depression. They're waiting

for a chance to kill themselves. They I mean, that's the whole thing, and

they're it's a it's a sad time. I mean, there's no money.

It was. The depression. Like, it's just the it's the worst time to be alive.

And Yeah. I mean, well, the civil war is probably worst

time to be alive because people are shooting at you, but that's where the other

sad music comes from. That's true. I mean, the great depression is

terrifying. I mean, when you think about it, you think about the, like, the dust

bowl and I mean, just it sounds like a everything sounds horrible during the

great depression. Like, you grow up and you're like, oh my god. Everybody's so

dirty. People are jumping out of buildings. There's no money. Guys are

living in Hoovervilles, whatever they used to call them. People don't know where

their next nickel is gonna come from? Right. Every people

are starving. They're trying to take care of kids. There's no Internet. This is living

in hell. Oh my gosh. And and so, I

just I think these people were waiting to kill themselves, and then they hear a

song that's so sad. A song that talks about suicide. They're Mike, you know what?

Laszlo, you're right, man. Let's do it. Let's get let's get it. So it, like,

pushes them over the edge as opposed to being something

like, oh, I thought of another sad song. What's that? That Donnie

Darko song. The, Oh, mad world or whatever?

Mad world. Yeah. That is a sad song. That one makes me, like,

every time it gives me a chill. It is. That's a good one. That's a

good one. That's a great movie too. We'll

talk we'll talk about time travel and time travel in music and movies and stuff

like that. Oh, so much to talk about. Okay. A million things to talk about.

But we're staying on the sad sad song, gloomy. Right. We're saying we're not

talking about happy things Mike traveling through time. We're talking about sad things like killing

yourself in the dust bowl in the Great Depression, drinking a glass of poisoned

beer while violinist plays this song for you or somebody sings it to you. That

must be a just cold hearted stone

violinist. Like, sure.

I'll do it. Give me $5. Right. It's a musician getting the paycheck. You think

they're gonna turn that down and, like, he's gonna kill him. I mean, that sucks.

Shit. That sucks. He's gonna Mike, but, I mean, at least as long as the

check's good. Sort of like a Kevorkian of the

music world. Yes. Right. Doctor doctor Kevorkian of the music

world. I will play the sad music for you. And drink your glass of

poisoned beer. Oh my gosh.

Okay. So they made an English language version soon after, and it was written

by Sam Lewis. Okay. Now Sam Lewis, we don't know about him too much today.

I mean, we he's like, nobody sings his songs all the time today. Like, they

might sing an Irving Berlin song or something like that. But he was a,

a composer and a songwriter kinda at that level. So

I think has anybody seen Mike Gal? That might be his most

famous song. Or How You Gonna Keep Them Down in the Farm after

they've seen Perrie. Never heard of either either of those. I I know the how

can you keep them down on the farm Okay. Song. My mother used to

quote that song because it was popular when she was a youth. They're gonna regale

us with a little, little line of the music? I don't really

I don't know. It's just Mike, how do you keep them down on the farm

now that they've seen Perry? I don't I'd I just made that to sound

old. Okay. I do I remember a little bit, but I that was just made

to sound old timey. Yeah. I can Google it. No problem.

Okay. So and the thing is he adds a

3rd verse to it. So the English we you can look over the English lyrics

to it. He adds a 3rd verse that kinda cheers it

up. Aw. So it kinda just says, Mike, so

so Sunday is gloomy. My hours are slumberless.

Dearest, the shadows I live with are numberless. Little

white flowers will never awaken you, not where the black coach

of sorrow has taken you. Angels have no thoughts

of ever returning you. Would they be angry if I thought of joining

you? Gloomy Sunday.

Gloomy Sunday with shadows I spend it all. My heart and I

have decided to end it all. Soon, there'll be candles

and prayers that are sad, I know. Let them not weep. Let them know

I'm glad to go. For death is no dream. For in death, I'm

caressing you with the last breath of my soul. I'll be blessing

you. Gloomy Sunday. So right now

Right. That's it. K. Yourself. Certainly does take a different twist, doesn't it?

Dreaming. I was only dreaming. I wake and find you

asleep in the deep of my heart here. Darling, I hope that my dream

never haunted you. My heart is telling you how much I wanted you.

I know it is more cheerful, but it's still a pretty morbid thing because it's

like, hey. Guess what I had this dream about? Well, in the dream, you

died, and so I wanted to kill myself, and then I did.

Hi. Let's have a great day together. Like, no. You if I said that in

the morning to my wife, she'd be like, wow. Go back to sleep, Frigo.

That's true. I mean, at least the effort was made to make

it not end quite so darkly. Yeah. And the melody

at that part too. Like, dreaming, I was only dreaming.

It's, like, meant to be like, hey. Guess what? You know, let's let's pick this

one up before, you know, somebody drinks a glass of poison beer

around here. But no. I mean, this

so when they redid the American version or the English version, they

wanted to make it more cheerful, and so gloomy Sunday kinda they picked it

up. And and the most popular version of the song, I think the one

that a lot of people have heard, well, the people that didn't kill themselves that

are still around, was by Billie Holiday.

Oh. So Okay. So the Billie Holiday version,

is from 1941, and that's probably the most famous popular

version of Gloomy Sunday. Now Wonder how she decided to

record that one. Well, it was I mean, it's a it's a popular song,

and, it just, Mike, maybe she was just

looking to make her, make her fans

kill themselves. I'm not sure. Or or right. Like, what do oh,

let's pick this one. Yeah. Probably was. It was just was the

guy wrote a version of it. They're like, hey. Let's, you know, give it to

Billy and see what she thinks. It's a it's a nice melody, and you'll hear

it you'll hear the song in a little bit. So you'll hear it's a really

nice melody, even if it is kind of a sad one. But she

she certainly isn't the only person to record it. I mean, there's a there's a

lot of versions of Gloomy

Sunday, including another jazz. Great Lou Rawls did

it in the 19 sixties. Ray Charles did a version

in 1969. That sounds fun.

Elvis Costello did one in 1981. Wow.

Big names. Right. A band called Christian

Death did it in 1986, and, the Dead Milkman,

tongue in cheek, put it in a song called Oh, so the

blood orgy of the atomic fern. Man, it's Mike

every genre has covered it. That's pretty incredible. Yep.

Marianne Faithfull who now she used to be I remember

her. Yes. Mike so Marianne Faithful was, Rod's

not not Rod Stewart. The lead singer of The Rolling Stones. The guy at the

lips. Mick Jagger? Mick Jagger. Yes. That's right. He just he escaped me for a

second, but she was Mick Jagger's girlfriend for a a while. Oh,

yeah. So that's and that's why she was famous. And she was in

that Metallica song. Yeah. She's

That's right. So just hearing her sing that song made me wanna kill myself so

I could see how her version of gloomy Sunday would do it

too. Gosh. That shouldn't be allowed.

Sinead Sinead did it. That gloomy Sunday

is the song that made her shave her head. She was so

sad. She's like, I'm I'm gonna shave my head.

Anton LaVey, who was the, Anton

LeVay was the founder of the church of Satan

in the United States. And we're gonna talk more about Anton LaVey because before the

end of his life, he became friends with Marilyn Manson and stuff like that.

And he's great because Anton LaVey would

have, like, show tune old time jazz sing

alongs and stuff like that. So really fun. I mean, jazz hands.

Like Anton LaVeya. Well, we'll talk about the church of Satan when we talk about

the Sing about Satan. Oh, boy. A 2. Oh, 1, 2, 3,

go. That's that exactly. Like, he's saying happy music and

everything, and we'll talk about that because the church of Satan is isn't what

people think it is. Okay. And so Interesting. And so

and because he's Wendy he he was friends with all these guys and that were

actually, like, you know, Sammy Davis junior was a member of

the church of Satan. And who did not know. And who was a happier guy

than Sammy Davis junior? Right. Who I mean, he's the guy everybody wants to party

with. Yeah, man. Right. It's

jazz hands. Who knows jazz hands like Sammy Davis? Oh, man. We'll we'll get

there. Sarah McLachlan,

who knows sadder songs than Sarah McLachlan? Good point.

Oh, that one commercial with the dogs? Yeah. It it, like, I can't even

I have to change his station when that comes on. Right. How many times has

that commercial with the dogs made you wanna slit your wrists? You cannot

see it without a tear Mhmm. Appearing in your eye. In the

arms of an angel. Oh my gosh. And then they'll all those puppy

dogs with the sets. Presents. Unless you donate money, you are a

horrible creature. Like Mike, what are you doing,

Sarah? It's very effective, I think. I think it is too.

So her version of Gloomy Sunday, I think, was that was just a,

that was a warm up for the arms of the angel, and they should put

that song in the well, no. You know It could've maybe it inspired her

to write that one. Who knows? It could've been. The

Smithereens did it. Jeez. This list is huge.

Yeah. They did it in the nineties though. So who knows we cared. Is

is this, like, the most covered song ever? No. No. No. Of course not. Yeah.

Yes. Yesterday is the most covered song. Okay. I believe that. I believe

song. I believe in yesterday. The

Hey. Thanks for the softball. Just a bit outside. Okay.

So, the Kronos Quartet, that string quartet.

Oh, yeah. I like the Kronos Quartet. Sarah Brightman

did it. Yep.

Yep. There's a a bunch of bands I haven't heard of after

that. Bjork. Oh, yeah. Bjork, I think I've Nice. Bjork did a

video for it too, I believe. Cool. So you can see Bjork do it in

her weird quirky Icelandic way.

And, oh, yeah. And then it became

a bigger hit just this year. Hold on. Let's see if I can

find this. What? On a Norwegian talent show.

Like American Idol, something like that? Yeah. But this is Norwegian

Idol. This is a really young girl. It's Mike a 7 year old girl sings

gloomy Sunday, and that it was making the rounds on the viral videos and

stuff. And so, actually, when you look up Gloomy Sunday Oh my gosh. You will

find of a child singing that song is children shouldn't have to

think about those things. Well, if you think about Romeo and Juliet, though,

like, Romeo and Juliet's a story. And how does I mean, spoilers for

Romeo and Juliet in case you haven't. You You know, I don't mean to spoil

you on it, but, you know, they get they get so

sad. They kill him you know, she kills herself. You know? And he's like, hey.

Just faking. Too late. So that he kills himself too,

which is a total bummer. Gotcha. Oops. Mike

you'd think that I mean, it's just speaking of you know, you

think it's an overload of sad and that we're kinda we find that ridiculous

or whatever. But did you see that precious movie?

No. I didn't. The one that got a bunch of Oscars. Yeah. It it's it's

very well acted. Yeah. No question. It's well acted. It's well put together.

It it it touches all the right heartstrings and and the girl puts

on a really great performance and it's a it's a

good film, but it's almost too unbelievable because it's

sad after sad after sad. You know, this girl has a horrible

relationship with her mother, and she's a victim of incest

with her father, and she's been and then she's got AIDS,

and then she needs help. Because, like, all these things come in, and you're just

Mike My precious. Right. You just I expect this thing to

stop, like, and just go worst day ever, or it's just a

or it's just a commercial. Are you having a bad day? You know, that's the

kinda but so at the same time, these things

where we just pile on the sad after sad, that hasn't changed that

much over time. Even from Shakespeare's time, we think, like, if

we heard a story like Romeo and Juliet, which gloomy Sunday is

just like the ending of Romeo and Juliet,

that we're Mike, well, it's all ridiculous. We wouldn't buy it. But we still buy

that stuff, and we still eat that stuff completely up even 100 of years

later. Right. That's true. So but, no,

if if you look up, you know, Gloomy Sunday, 8 year old or whatever, amazing

okay. It's it's Mike on YouTube. Let me see how many views it has. It's

got 8,000,000 views What? On

YouTube. Amazing 7 year old sings Gloomy Sunday,

Billie Holiday, Angelina Georgian. And my favorite,

the name of the talent show is Norsca Talonter.

Norsca Talonter. Well, you win big.

Oh my goodness. Oh, I love it. And so it's just like America's Got

Talent or Britain's Got Talent or whatever.

But no. And so she won real big with her the whole

season and her version of gloomy Sunday.

So Angelina Jordan does not sound like a Norwegian name whatsoever.

Does it? It really does not. It sounds like an American name. No. I'm in

I'm in Minneapolis right now and everything I mean, everything sounds Norwegian.

And I'm like, Angelina Jordan. She's from Norway?

So Billie Holiday records the most popular version,

and, that version gets banned by the

BBC for being too disturbing. These are

right. These are adults that make this decision. It becomes banned by the

BBC until 2,002 for being too disturbing.

That's very recent. Right? And when you think about all the disturbing

things on the television nowadays Mhmm. I

mean, wow. That's quite a statement, really. Yeah. And

so I think that's so it gets banned in 1941, right in the middle of

the second World War. And going back to talk about the 2nd World

War a little bit, the composer of the song, the original

composer, did kill himself in

Budapest by throwing himself out a window.

It's not a rumor. It's just not one of those things Mike you're like, oh,

yeah. This guy killed himself. No. He killed himself. He was in the New York

Times, which, you know, I don't I don't know how much he trusted, but I

trusted their obituary section enough. He had a tough life

though. He was Jewish, and he went to a Nazi prison camp in the Ukraine

Gosh. And his mom died there. Then after the after the war, he became a

trapeze artist and a circus performer. So he was he was multi

you know, he's he's multitalented. He was, you know, performing,

But he said he was depressed. He'd never write a song as popular as gloomy

Sunday ever again. Aw. And so He's depressed that the depressing

song was, oh. In the late sixties, he killed. Gosh.

Well, man, that guy, I I feel really sorry for him. I do

too. Whenever you feel like that. So What a miserable way to

live. A germ they made a German film about the song

in 1999. A

Song of Love and Death. And so you can see

that. I don't think it's on Netflix, but I think you can, it's on the

the DVD version, so you can get it that way. And,

yeah, the saddest song in the world. So a a little bit Wow. A

little bit into something we went through, before. So what was

going on that made people kill themselves in that time?

Number 1. Hungary, historically, has had the highest suicide rate

among Western nations. So, you know, that's it's a

place where more people kill themselves than than others. And then,

also, we were talking about America in 1937, 1938. We had an

increase in suicides because of the economic downturn. I'm in the

middle of the Great Depression, and we weren't yanked out of it until the second

World War. Why was it banned in England? Well, in England,

they were just coming off the blitz. This is 1941. They're in the middle of

the war. I mean Yeah. There I mean, London was

bombed every day by Germans for a long Mike, and it was terrifying that

the v two rockets and everything. So you were in a place

where was just a a Terror already down. It was a terrifying time to

live. And so, you have a song that's really sad and sometimes

things just become cultural touchstones. And this was one of them.

So Well, that was a very interesting bit of

Yeah. A little bit history and and the saddest song in the world.

So why don't we listen to our version of it, Wendy? Alright. I think that

sounds like a great idea. Okay. Get your handkerchiefs.

Thank you for listening to today's episode. You can find

us online at othersidepodcast.com. Until

next Mike. See you on the other side.