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The Leadership Mirror
Episode 721st August 2026 • The New P&L: Patterns & Leaders • Michael Winn & Kryssi Murrell
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Who is leading the leader?

In Episode 7 of The New P&L: Patterns & Leaders, Michael Winn and Kryssi Murrell explore why leadership requires more than guiding others. It requires having people willing to challenge you, hold you accountable, and reflect what you may not see in yourself. They discuss how an organization can become a mirror of its leader’s patterns, why trust creates greater capacity than control, and how the strongest leaders measure their impact not by how many people depend on them, but by how many people they help become capable of leading.

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