Sir Daniel: 00:00:16

Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points podcast.

Sir Daniel: 00:00:19

I am DJ Sir Daniel.

Jay Ray: 00:00:21

and my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government,

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says Johnnie Ray Kornegay III.

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What's happening?

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People,

Sir Daniel: 00:00:28

Jay Ray, we, we got a superstar in the building this episode,

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a legend, a superstar in the building and that's super dope for us.

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and I'm excited to, to speak with him because we

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get, we've had opportunities.

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We both got to see him gig and we've had opportunities to share space with him,

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but we haven't, the two of us haven't had an opportunity to like really chop it up

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and to just, you know, talk shop and to, to go over some things that are happening

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within, you know, the zeitgeist right now.

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So, I'm excited, um, to hear from him.

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But Jay, Ray, you know, I gotta, we gotta set it off with something that's

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been in my burning in my soul recently.

Jay Ray: 00:01:13

What's been burning in your soul, sir Daniel?

Sir Daniel: 00:01:17

I really do believe, I'm starting to believe that people, the

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party people of a certain age, if they can tell that you are older than

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them, as far as the DJ is concerned, they're really not rocking with you

Jay Ray: 00:01:35

Oh, that is interesting.

Sir Daniel: 00:01:39

you're, you're much older than them, they're really not trying to stick

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around and hear what you have to play.

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You know, that's interesting to me because I've actually

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always revered the older dj.

Sir Daniel: 00:01:53

Mm.

Jay Ray: 00:01:53

Um, growing up like that was, uh, and maybe 'cause

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it, it was as a kid, right?

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I was always just kind of hanging around the DJ booth, like watching what

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the DJ would play and the DJ wouldn't like kick me out when he was like

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at like family functions and stuff.

Sir Daniel: 00:02:06

Right.

Jay Ray: 00:02:08

I never had that thing.

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So when I see like.

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And a DJ that's older than me, I'm curious to know what the journey is

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gonna be, because I know it's going to be different than somebody who's

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like a peer or near my peer group.

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Like I just, I expect the journey to be different.

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So that's interesting, sir Daniel.

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Yeah.

Sir Daniel: 00:02:27

Yeah, I mean, not for nothing.

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I see a lot of, a lot of DJs for, first of all, if I'm getting older, that

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means they're getting younger and there are certain things that I cannot do.

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Like I cannot, I'm not gonna do a set with my shirt off.

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That's just not happening.

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Y'all don't wanna see that.

Jay Ray: 00:02:47

Daniel, you, y'all, sir Daniel, you're not going like,

Sir Daniel: 00:02:51

No, not at all.

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No.

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Nope.

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There's just certain things that you, you all don't wanna see that, trust me.

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And then, but then, you know, I can't do a shirtless set.

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You know, I'm not, you know, there are just certain things that I

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think that if you're not, if you're past beyond a certain age, you

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cannot do or probably would not do.

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So therefore, the party people are just like, eh, that's really not my vibe.

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This is way sexier over here.

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I'm gonna go check that out.

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So that's just a, that, that's just been a thought that's been brewing within me.

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And it's so funny.

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Our guest, uh, when we met him, well, when I met him, I know it's

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been o like a decade now since, since the first time that I became

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acquaint acquainted with him.

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He's an elder al now.

Jay Ray: 00:03:39

Yeah.

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Isn't that crazy?

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So he

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talk about this.

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about what it's like to be the old guy, the head.

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And, and you know what I mean?

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Leading the people to to, to the, to the, to the promised land,

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uh, you know, with the music.

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But, uh, we're gonna introduce our guest now.

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So who is this amazing person that we are talking about joining us tonight?

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Y'all, we are so excited.

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Uh, Jeremy Avalon is with us.

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Uh, Jeremy has reached a global audience as a dj, DJ and music

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producer performing all over the us.

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He has taken his talents overseas as well to locations such as

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the uk, Croatia, and Mexico.

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His Pade Carmen set from last year, bang it.

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Y'all need to go check it out.

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Um.

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has appeared on The Rock The Bells Cruise and acclaimed festivals and traveling

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events such as Art Beats and lyrics.

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Shout out to Art Beats and lyrics, uh, the Art of Cool and The One Music Fest.

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He is open for a diverse array of artists like the late DMX Rinada,

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rich Medina, Meego Fishbone, Victor Du Plays, Sango, uh, DJ Jazzy, Jeff,

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Brian, Michael Cox, and others.

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Shout out to all the Philly love in there.

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Jeremy's first Love has always been the guitar and music production.

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He is a multi-instrumentalist with production credits with a diverse list

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of artists like Jazz Singer Shante Can Hip Hop Legends, the Nat Pee Roots, and

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collaborations with electronic producer Treasure Fingers already, already

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a world traveler by the age of 11.

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Jeremy incorporates many international influences into his

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DJing and music production, soul and r and b and Futuristic Funk

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permeate his sound as well as.

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Caribbean and Latin rhythms, indie dance and deep house.

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These are the tip of the iceberg as it concerns Jeremy Avalon's musical palette.

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Queue Points.

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We are honored to have our brother Jeremy Avalon here

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is in the building.

Sir Daniel: 00:05:40

Welcome, welcome, Jeremy.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:05:42

Hello.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:05:42

Hello.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:05:43

Hello.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:05:43

It's great to be, it is, it is weird being on this side 'cause I'm always listening

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on the other side, so this is cool.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:05:49

Yeah.

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We had to do it.

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It's, it's about time.

Sir Daniel: 00:05:53

We definitely, it's about time that we had you on the show For sure.

Jay Ray: 00:05:56

Absolutely.

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Welcome.

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Welcome.

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You know, there's a lot to get into tonight, um,

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that we definitely want to hit with you.

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But first and foremost, how are you doing before we jump

Jay Ray: 00:06:07

into some questions for you?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:08

I'm, I'm cool man.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:09

I've, I've had a, I've had a good little good little weekend.

Jay Ray: 00:06:13

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:14

to play with my man, sir Daniel over here.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:16

That was fun.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:17

Uh, that was my first time at that particular, well, at that space,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:21

um, at, at that particular venue.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:24

So that was cool.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:25

So was, it was good to see.

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And I saw a lot of people that I haven't seen in years either.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:29

So that was, I saw a, a kid I went to high school with and that was crazy,

Sir Daniel: 00:06:33

Oh, that's dope.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:34

Yeah.

Sir Daniel: 00:06:36

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:39

Yeah, so I had a great time.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:06:41

That was a, that was a good finish to my busy, busy weekend.

Jay Ray: 00:06:44

Good deal.

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Well listen, man, like one of the things that have heard, so, um, being

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blessed with cool parents, right?

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You have an extremely interesting and diverse history as it relates to just

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your artistic palate, all of that.

Jay Ray: 00:07:04

What made your parents cool?

Jay Ray: 00:07:07

Um, I would say,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:08

the gift of travel, first of

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:11

all,

Jay Ray: 00:07:11

mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:12

um, I. Having cable television in the eighties and nineties

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:16

if you were black, is a superpower.

Jay Ray: 00:07:18

It.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:19

were

Jay Ray: 00:07:19

I,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:20

yeah, yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:21

I'm

Sir Daniel: 00:07:21

The game.

Jay Ray: 00:07:22

it does.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:23

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:23

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:23

It just, it, yeah, it matters.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:25

Like, um, I'd say that, but I, I would definitely just say, um, a space to

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:30

like, kind of like discover music in a, in a space to do it alone sometimes,

Jay Ray: 00:07:35

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:36

And, um, I used to, you know, I was always

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:39

infatuated with the album

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covers,

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Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:41

parents had a pretty decent, have a pretty decent collection,

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you know, so, um, just being in awe of them and taking 'em all out and,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:48

you know, we had one of those, you know, console stereos, it look like

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coffin with

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:52

the,

Sir Daniel: 00:07:52

Oh.

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dropdown?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:54

Yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:07:55

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:56

track in

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Yep.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:57

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:07:58

So, yeah, so I, I grew up taking all those out and just f spreading

Jeremy Avalon: 00:08:01

'em around and, you know, my mom's, uh, who is, uh, Melba Moore and.

Jay Ray: 00:08:08

Legend.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:08:09

and all this, and then my dad having, you know, sly

Jay Ray: 00:08:12

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:08:12

and like those type of artists, you know, so that was,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:08:16

I was just obsessed with these like, what are these big trading cards?

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Or, you know, they were just so

Jeremy Avalon: 00:08:22

that,

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You know,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:08:23

of sparked it off.

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there, there enough Can't be said about parents exposing their

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children to culture at an early age.

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Like I, I re that resonates with me big time Jeremy.

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'cause I was traveling at a early age.

Sir Daniel: 00:08:41

Matter of fact, we were just talking about that.

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Jay Ray.

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We were, we were interviewed on another show and we were talking about the fact.

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I started traveling at the age of two.

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Um, 'cause I'm an immigrant, so, you know, came over here at the age of

Sir Daniel: 00:08:53

two and mom exposed me to music at a very early age with the same console.

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Um, learning how to put the record on myself and at my, at the big

Sir Daniel: 00:09:04

age of five, um, she was like, okay, these are your records.

Sir Daniel: 00:09:07

You could put them on yourself.

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Those kinds of things.

Sir Daniel: 00:09:09

They, they have an effect on you.

Sir Daniel: 00:09:12

And, um, talk to us about the musicianship part of your repertoire, because you

Sir Daniel: 00:09:19

are, you are an accomplished musician.

Sir Daniel: 00:09:21

You play guitar, I'm sure you play other instruments, but talk to us about that

Sir Daniel: 00:09:26

and, um, being an accomplished musician, I want you to think about this and you

Sir Daniel: 00:09:32

can answer it now, maybe later, but what's your, your goat jam session Like

Sir Daniel: 00:09:36

if you were, you know, you got your ax out and you playing with somebody who's

Sir Daniel: 00:09:40

in that, that goat jam session with you?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:43

Oh, okay.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:43

So I, I might, I might be able to tackle that one.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:46

I

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:46

think

Sir Daniel: 00:09:47

Okay.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:47

so, okay.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:48

So musicianship, I would say, um, I was blessed to have a piano in the house

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:53

growing

Jay Ray: 00:09:53

that's dope.

Sir Daniel: 00:09:55

Yeah,

Jay Ray: 00:09:55

really plays for real.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:57

you know, everybody, it was just.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:59

I dunno.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:09:59

In the eighties it was just

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:00

cool if

Jay Ray: 00:10:00

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:01

in your

Jay Ray: 00:10:02

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:02

you know,

Sir Daniel: 00:10:03

same.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:04

having a piano in my house and just being able to, if I

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:08

wanted to touch music, I could touch

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:10

it,

Jay Ray: 00:10:10

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:11

outside of just these records and stuff like that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:14

It was, um, so I was always interested in guitar.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:18

My, um, my dad's a big Hendrix fan, so like some of the first music I

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:23

heard in life is like machine gun and

Jay Ray: 00:10:26

That's dope.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:27

so

Jay Ray: 00:10:27

That kind explains.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:28

I ended up the way I did, you know?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:30

So like that band of Gypsies album

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:32

is

Jay Ray: 00:10:33

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:33

that's the first music I like remember hearing

Jay Ray: 00:10:37

Wow.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:37

life, know?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:38

So, um, but yeah, it is that I remember, um, when, I remember when

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:43

we first got our, when we first got our, the first like CD player,

Jay Ray: 00:10:47

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:48

the single like disc.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:49

Uh,

Jay Ray: 00:10:50

Like the Sony joint where it comes out and it's long.

Jay Ray: 00:10:53

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:53

one.

Jay Ray: 00:10:53

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:54

So yeah, just, um.

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Having like, you know, like just listening to a lot of like,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:10:59

uh, di more diverse things now.

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'cause now you know, you have this compact disc and just go, the record

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:05

store experience is a lot different.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:07

So just my, I remember the first night we got it and, you know, my parents

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:12

just getting all kind of different stuff really just to show off the stereo,

Jay Ray: 00:11:15

Right.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:16

um, but in that, in that mix was, um, Exodus by Bob Marley and the

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:21

Whalers and that like, kind of, that really spoke to me

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:25

on that whole album a lot.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:27

Um, I, I don't, I guess the, like Gen Z kids call it meta

Jay Ray: 00:11:31

Right.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:31

but like Bob Marley like, kind of wore this like exact

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:34

shirt

Jay Ray: 00:11:35

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:36

in the, in, in, um, in an interview one time.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:39

So, yeah, it just, I don't know, it's funny, but Bob Marley, Exodus, um, album

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:43

really kind of like, just like really spoke to my like soul I guess, you know?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:49

And I knew that I wanted to do that, um, along with going to

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:53

a concert at a young age too.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:11:54

So.

Sir Daniel: 00:11:56

What concert was that?

Jay Ray: 00:11:57

yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:11:57

What concert did you go to?

Jay Ray: 00:11:59

So

Jay Ray: 00:11:59

my first concert,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:12:00

was the Any Heartbreak Tour

Jay Ray: 00:12:02

whoa, that's a legendary tour.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:12:05

yes,

Jay Ray: 00:12:06

Dope.

Jay Ray: 00:12:06

So, Jeremy, we have.

Jay Ray: 00:12:10

Mentioned WERC Crew

Sir Daniel: 00:12:11

Mm-hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:12:12

bio.

Jay Ray: 00:12:15

I, okay, so I'm just gonna love on WERC Crew for a minute.

Jay Ray: 00:12:20

There are one so many pictures of me at WERC Crew events in like the

Jay Ray: 00:12:25

very early years of like WERC Crew.

Jay Ray: 00:12:27

I loved energy that y'all were able to harness in all of us.

Jay Ray: 00:12:37

I feel like there was this, um, you helped all of us creatives in Atlanta kind of

Jay Ray: 00:12:45

have a space where we could just land and be, but also build with one another.

Jay Ray: 00:12:50

Oh.

Jay Ray: 00:12:51

And dance and sweat our faces off at, at our bodies away at the same time.

Jay Ray: 00:12:55

So congratulations on y'all continuing to do this,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:02

Thank you.

Jay Ray: 00:13:04

because it, it mean it meant a. Ton to me, um, in Atlanta work, work,

Jay Ray: 00:13:10

crew events, I have so many fond memories.

Jay Ray: 00:13:13

Um, so to that point,

Jay Ray: 00:13:19

what makes you the most proud about WERC Crew and what

Jay Ray: 00:13:23

y'all have done for the world?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:27

well, so I would say it is not an event really.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:32

It's not a, a moment in time for real for me.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:37

It is just that it is, it's a, it is a bunch of people who didn't

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:41

like really fit in anywhere, kind

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:43

of

Jay Ray: 00:13:43

We were the island of misfit toys.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:45

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:47

And like people from all walks of life, people from all type of places.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:53

Um, me and Xavier met at a, at a birthday party for, um, a artist that

Jeremy Avalon: 00:13:58

he was DJing for, um, at the time.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:01

He was a good friend of mine.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:02

And, um, we just kind of, when we met, uh, this is before WERC Crew,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:07

when we, uh, were doing a party shade,

Jay Ray: 00:14:09

mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:10

Space two when it

Jay Ray: 00:14:11

Space two.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:13

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:14

So this is like even before WERC Crew

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:16

time.

Jay Ray: 00:14:16

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:17

um, we just figured out, we just figured out we had a

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:20

lot of the same problems, you know.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:21

Um, Atlanta, as you know, a southern hospitality as it can be

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:26

is still very tribal a lot of times.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:28

Um, you know, we didn't go to school with any, I mean, we didn't go to college

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:34

with

Jay Ray: 00:14:34

Hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:35

there.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:36

Um, you know, even if we had friends and family and had been there a long time,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:40

we didn't go to the same churches as

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:42

people.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:42

We didn't go to, we weren't in these, we weren't in fraternities.

Jay Ray: 00:14:45

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:46

not legacy,

Jay Ray: 00:14:47

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:48

mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:48

So it's kind of hard to fit in a lot of, a lot of times, um, and kind of find

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:53

a space if you don't like, don't know.

Jay Ray: 00:14:56

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:56

The big homies,

Jay Ray: 00:14:58

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:58

as they would call it.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:59

Right?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:14:59

So we kind of figured out like, we have a lot of the same problems.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:03

We're from all these diverse places and we want to like, um, we want

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:07

to express like this, this music.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:09

Um, we wanna, it is actually twofold.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:12

It's like we want to play a lot of futuristic music

Jay Ray: 00:15:16

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:16

that is next.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:18

Um, I can say like even back then we were playing, uh, disclosure, like

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:22

before

Jay Ray: 00:15:23

Oh, yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:24

was

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:24

out

Jay Ray: 00:15:24

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:25

Like those type of

Jay Ray: 00:15:27

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:27

kind of previously.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:29

Um, and I think a good, a big part of that was having younger people around us

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:33

too.

Jay Ray: 00:15:34

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:34

Um, kind of, you know, by that time I was in my late

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:37

twenties.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:39

Um, so very disconnected with college age, anyone, you

Jay Ray: 00:15:43

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:43

but I would say the college age, uh, people at that

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:47

time, you know, they really kind of helped us, helped us stay kind of.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:51

Cutting edge because we were kind of the middle children,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:54

you

Jay Ray: 00:15:54

Right.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:54

of the scene.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:55

You know, um, there's these, all these people older than us who have done

Jeremy Avalon: 00:15:59

all these like, incredible things, but this is kind of pre-internet

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:03

and like access to people.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:05

So I remember like, and this is funny 'cause we just shout out to Sala.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:10

We just did a,

Jay Ray: 00:16:11

Shout out to S Salon now today.

Jay Ray: 00:16:13

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:13

we just did a, a, a joint together, um, at the Echo

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:16

Room,

Jay Ray: 00:16:16

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:17

which is a new spot over here.

Sir Daniel: 00:16:19

Yes,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:19

I remember first seeing him opening for common

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:22

and I'm like, oh, he is famous.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:23

There's no way I, you know what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:24

Like.

Jay Ray: 00:16:25

Yeah.

Sir Daniel: 00:16:26

true.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:26

we talk.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:27

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:27

That's how we like our generation.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:29

We were disconnected from our elders

Jay Ray: 00:16:31

Mm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:32

of that 'cause of that, you know?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:33

So we kind of, kind of led the younger people, the people younger than us, we

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:39

kind of like, kind of held them tight.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:40

Like, okay, so we're kind of lost too, but we got y'all, so come on.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:45

So there was a good, there was a younger generation that kind of grew up with

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:49

us

Jay Ray: 00:16:50

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:50

now, you know, now they have their own successful events.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:53

Now they're their own artists now they're their own DJs.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:16:56

Now they're own working for, um, you know, whoever I think of, I think

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:01

of a time when, you know, speaking of that Shaa party, uh, Abra was

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:05

the bartender, you know what I'm

Jay Ray: 00:17:07

Wow.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:09

know, like India, Sean and

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:10

Marie.

Jay Ray: 00:17:11

Yeah,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:11

college kids, like, you know, hanging out at our party

Jay Ray: 00:17:15

yeah,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:16

the fathers and the Makos.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:17

Like those people were

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:18

just,

Jay Ray: 00:17:18

yeah,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:19

James kind of era.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:20

Like

Jay Ray: 00:17:21

yeah,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:21

just the weirdo.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:23

No, we weren't though,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:24

you

Jay Ray: 00:17:24

We weren't right.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:26

though.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:26

We were just people from that didn't fit a, a single like,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:30

you know, crowd necessarily.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:32

We fit every crowd

Jeremy Avalon: 00:17:34

almost, you know, so.

Jay Ray: 00:17:36

and I, y'all, I was like the old dude coming to the WERC Crew

Jay Ray: 00:17:40

parties, like having the best time like I was, I promise you, I'm gonna put up

Jay Ray: 00:17:46

some of the pictures from the joints.

Jay Ray: 00:17:50

brought us all, like I was able to get introduced to selection in

Jay Ray: 00:17:54

my thirties, you know what I mean?

Jay Ray: 00:17:56

And I'm like, ended up writing all type and just like introduced and,

Jay Ray: 00:18:02

and reacquainted with this new sound of music, which ignited a whole

Jay Ray: 00:18:08

other part of my life, my life.

Jay Ray: 00:18:10

So, So yeah, y'all did that.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:14

Shout out to to that for sure, because I think

Sir Daniel: 00:18:18

Jay Ray, the first time that.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:21

I was with you.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:21

You took me, it was on Auburn Avenue and yeah, it was on Auburn Avenue

Sir Daniel: 00:18:26

and you guys were doing something.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:28

It was a WERC Crew event.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:30

That was my first time ever seeing you all.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:33

Seeing Xavier.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:34

Seeing Jeremy, and just, you know, realizing, I remember at that moment

Sir Daniel: 00:18:39

realizing that I need to find my tribe.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:42

So that resonates with me as well.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:43

And speaking of which, I see, you know, shout out to everybody in the chat.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:47

Um, I see, see my sister, uh, peppermint Gati is in the chat.

Sir Daniel: 00:18:52

You know, we've had, um, ox all the people that are part of WAX Fundamentals

Sir Daniel: 00:18:56

coming through and creating events, creating legacy, like what you're doing

Sir Daniel: 00:19:02

is so important that I, we cannot go any further without shouting you out

Sir Daniel: 00:19:07

and congratulating you on the ninth anniversary of the Groove Party, which

Sir Daniel: 00:19:12

you gotta tell for, for the people that are at home that don't know what

Sir Daniel: 00:19:16

the Groove Party is, tell them, um, just tell us how you got started.

Sir Daniel: 00:19:20

'cause nine years of doing, of doing consistently an event that people

Sir Daniel: 00:19:26

consistently come to and pack it out is nothing to shake a stick at.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:19:31

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:19:32

So thank you first of all, and I would, I just, for

Sir Daniel: 00:19:37

I.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:19:37

the groove is kind of like our, I don't know, it's like our

Jeremy Avalon: 00:19:41

activism a little bit, you know, kind of our rebellion against like look like.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:19:47

RB needs a space by itself,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:19:50

you

Jay Ray: 00:19:50

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:19:51

there's a, there's other, you know, we didn't invent the RB party.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:19:54

There's RB parties, uh, before and after and plenty after, you know, but I, but

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:00

a lot of the times, you know, to appease people, you know, they'll, they'll have a

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:04

hip hop segment or they'll have some kind of like rap infiltration kind of thing.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:09

And,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:09

you know, of

Sir Daniel: 00:20:10

Hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:10

I'm a, I'm as hip hop

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:12

as they

Jay Ray: 00:20:12

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:12

what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:13

But I feel, and, uh, the, you know, us and the group just feel like, man, r

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:18

and b deserves its own move out the way.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:22

You

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:22

know what I'm

Jay Ray: 00:20:23

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:23

deserves its own thing.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:24

So it just, our like, kind of love letter to r and b, like, you know, and we, we

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:30

dig in the crates, you know, it's not just surface level, um, r and b, you know.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:35

We all have different, um, different influences and, you

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:38

know, and things like that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:39

So, uh, we all bring something different to the table.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:43

Um, there's song I, I'm, I'm now the, the OG in the group, I guess.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:47

So I'm the oldest one.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:49

So like their songs from my teenage years, like, know, 7 0 2 and Subway,

Jay Ray: 00:20:55

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:55

little game like that, I

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:57

don't

Jay Ray: 00:20:57

Classic joy, right?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:20:59

And it's like, we need, we, I, that's what that's

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:02

for, but it's not just for like, you know, nineties r and b at all.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:06

Um, we always like, definitely tried to like champion what's next and

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:11

like newer r and b too, because, you know, RI mean, you know, r and

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:16

b is is still around and there's

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:18

some of

Jay Ray: 00:21:19

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:20

some of the best music out now than there's ever

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:22

been, but you know, there's just.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:25

too much music, period.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:27

So it's hard to, it is hard to find

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:29

stuff.

Jay Ray: 00:21:29

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:30

I think when, when we were growing up, like we're the

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:33

last, like we're the internet puberty

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:35

generation, you know,

Sir Daniel: 00:21:37

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:37

we're the last,

Jay Ray: 00:21:38

Yep.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:38

the great science experiment.

Jay Ray: 00:21:40

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:41

people to like experience r and b, like for

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:44

real,

Jay Ray: 00:21:45

Yep.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:45

you know, like our teenage years are like the, the classic nineties

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:50

RB

Jay Ray: 00:21:50

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:51

know, that people are trying to emulate

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:53

now and

Jay Ray: 00:21:53

Yep.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:54

me being on the younger spectrum of

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:56

that,

Jay Ray: 00:21:57

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:57

but still a teenager through

Jeremy Avalon: 00:21:59

that,

Jay Ray: 00:21:59

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:00

you know, like, um, it's kind of cool to see a lot of

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:04

that come back in style and I can cross and I can hit them with,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:08

you know, four page letter and,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:10

you

Jay Ray: 00:22:10

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:10

these, these, these records that I liked growing up.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:13

But then, you know, I could, we could always, you know, we, we

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:16

always play a lot of new stuff.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:17

Um, I. That people could connect into today.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:21

Um, so I know I rambled, but yeah,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:23

it's

Jay Ray: 00:22:23

No, that was perfect.

Jay Ray: 00:22:24

No.

Jay Ray: 00:22:25

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:26

a place for, um, you know, to hear ballads out loud.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:29

You know what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:30

Like

Jay Ray: 00:22:30

We

Sir Daniel: 00:22:31

So important.

Sir Daniel: 00:22:32

It's so important.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:33

running man real

Jay Ray: 00:22:34

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:35

do that sometimes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:22:36

You know what I mean?

Sir Daniel: 00:22:38

Listen, I've been, you know, I've been screaming that for the longest

Sir Daniel: 00:22:41

time and I'm so happy that you all are, are able to experience that and create

Sir Daniel: 00:22:47

a space for that to live in and at.

Sir Daniel: 00:22:50

So I've seen, okay.

Sir Daniel: 00:22:52

Jay Ray and I went to one of the times that you were in town, we

Sir Daniel: 00:22:55

went to one of the, um, I think it was a high key disco party.

Jay Ray: 00:22:58

key disco party.

Jay Ray: 00:22:59

Had a ball.

Sir Daniel: 00:23:00

And so what a lot of the younger people get a lot of flack

Sir Daniel: 00:23:05

for not dancing at parties, for not, um, going in and going up for

Sir Daniel: 00:23:12

the music that the DJ is playing.

Sir Daniel: 00:23:14

And, but that's not what we saw.

Sir Daniel: 00:23:17

And so I'm interested to hear from you, Jeremy, like what surprises you

Sir Daniel: 00:23:21

the most about spinning for a Gen Z or a, a Gen alpha crowd that you, what

Sir Daniel: 00:23:28

surprises you when you spin for them?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:31

So, okay.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:32

It is twofold, right?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:33

Like they have all the information in the world, but a lot of times they just

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:38

don't research sometimes or they're like real surprised by things that I

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:44

think they should know, but they're, I then I realize how much time has

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:47

actually passed and I'm just like, well, it's just me for real, like.

Sir Daniel: 00:23:50

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:51

So, yeah, so that's, that's been the interesting thing.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:54

Um, me doing, uh, the, my, my event, high key disco, which

Jeremy Avalon: 00:23:58

is kind of like another trip.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:00

It is kind of like, my selfish, uh, early eighties version of the Groove if I,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:05

if

Jay Ray: 00:24:06

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:06

were to do it,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:06

you know

Jay Ray: 00:24:07

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:08

um, definitely a, a Latin Quarter 54, A Paradise Garage

Jay Ray: 00:24:15

Yes,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:16

you know, like kind of

Jay Ray: 00:24:17

yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:18

you know, you know, I come from a big family, you know, and all my,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:22

my aunts and uncles, you know, had their formative years in New York City and, you

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:27

know, I would just, you know, and, you know, thinking of New York City in that,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:32

in that time period, um, you know, I, we, was always kind of a desire to like,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:38

just give, just, I wanted some of that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:40

I

Jay Ray: 00:24:40

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:41

like a fat rat out

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:42

loud,

Jay Ray: 00:24:42

Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:24:43

Over the loudspeaker, right?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:45

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:45

And experience it like how my aunts and uncles did.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:48

Um, I have an uncle that like, was really, I was, you know, really close

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:51

to that passed away when I was about 18.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:54

And I remember the, the winter before he passed, I used to go back to

Jeremy Avalon: 00:24:58

New York, uh, to go record shopping

Jay Ray: 00:25:00

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:01

in the winter time.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:02

That was by records in a valex, just to, you know,

Sir Daniel: 00:25:07

Wow.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:07

nah, you know, it was, it was one of those, oh man.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:12

Which, just crazy that all that is

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:17

style

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:17

again, you

Jay Ray: 00:25:17

Yeah,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:19

uh,

Jay Ray: 00:25:19

yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:20

that's what I would do.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:21

Like, and then just, you know, I remember one, one time, um, I was at

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:25

his house and I was just showing him all the, these records that I had

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:28

gotten and, um, and he, you know, it was just, you know, just these string

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:32

of records that really stuck to me, that

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:35

were on

Jay Ray: 00:25:36

Compilations

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:36

you know, um.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:37

so for Haki disco, uh, also, and this is just in, in my DJing period, you know, I

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:42

try to play things that probably haven't been played out loud in a long time.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:46

I

Jay Ray: 00:25:47

Yeah,

Jay Ray: 00:25:47

yeah,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:48

songs have some kind of soul, you

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:50

know, and

Jay Ray: 00:25:50

yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:51

been played out a long, out, out loud, a long

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:53

time,

Jay Ray: 00:25:54

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:54

they kind of, I don't know, they die or whatever.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:25:56

But it is, I just love playing like Kashif and, and Howard Johnson and, and

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:02

like these type of records like out Loud.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:04

And a lot of these kids, they really like 'em a lot, you know?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:07

Um, to the point where like, they'll come up to me and be like, oh man, you put me

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:12

on to, uh, well there's one particular jam in Lewis record, uh, by a group

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:17

called Reel To Real, you know, called.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:19

And they had a song called Can, can You Treat Me Like She Does?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:22

Right.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:23

And it

Jay Ray: 00:26:23

Do I?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:26:24

it was like a one-off,

Jay Ray: 00:26:25

Okay, I have to find this.

Jay Ray: 00:26:27

I, I wonder if I probably know the song.

Jay Ray: 00:26:29

I'm dying to hear it

Sir Daniel: 00:26:30

now, yeah, now we have to.

Jay Ray: 00:26:32

Now we have to know.

Jay Ray: 00:26:33

real quick, so along these lines, Jeremy, this is how this conversation kind of

Jay Ray: 00:26:37

gestated too, because, um, we were, uh.

Jay Ray: 00:26:42

Chatting back and forth, and you had played Davina's best of both worlds.

Jay Ray: 00:26:47

I don't know if it was a song or if it was like the album and somebody's

Jay Ray: 00:26:51

mind, whoever you played it for, was like blown, like mind blown by this.

Jay Ray: 00:26:55

And you were reflecting about like, oh, like these little pieces of magic

Jay Ray: 00:26:59

would happen, like all the time.

Jay Ray: 00:27:01

When

Jay Ray: 00:27:02

I remember just that album alone, how wild it was that it happened.

Jay Ray: 00:27:08

And then it was, that was it.

Jay Ray: 00:27:10

Like, it was

Sir Daniel: 00:27:11

Mm-hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:27:12

this is a thing that's going to enter the world and it's going

Jay Ray: 00:27:15

to not, and it's just gonna be here.

Jay Ray: 00:27:17

Right.

Jay Ray: 00:27:18

And we never hear from her again in that way.

Jay Ray: 00:27:21

Right.

Jay Ray: 00:27:23

can you reflect on, 'cause you, you to this, like there's so

Jay Ray: 00:27:28

much music out there, it's hard.

Jay Ray: 00:27:31

To land stuff because it is so much coming at you.

Jay Ray: 00:27:35

Whereas when we were younger there was like a process, like there was a a

Jay Ray: 00:27:39

process in the way that music came to us.

Jay Ray: 00:27:42

Right.

Jay Ray: 00:27:43

kind of knew what was coming and when it was coming at all.

Jay Ray: 00:27:47

These levels reflect from your perspective on that a little bit.

Jay Ray: 00:27:53

As you are kind of navigating the world now, it's kind of the elder,

Jay Ray: 00:27:57

millennial introducing the people to Davina and Loud records and all of that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:03

Uh, man, you know, it, it is funny.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:05

It's like, was I just hoarding this music all this time just to do this now?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:09

You know, so that,

Jay Ray: 00:28:12

Yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:28:12

You get to be like the sensei for like the young people.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:16

Or like, there, there's like I was saying, um, there's things that

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:19

I think people should know already, and it calm, calm, my mind is kind of blown.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:23

Uh, but I don't, I also realize how much time has

Jay Ray: 00:28:25

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:25

Um, I'm a youngest child.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:28

I always say when uh, people meet me, they think I'm 30, but

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:32

when they toss to me, I'm 80.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:33

You know what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:34

Just 'cause I've been around older people my entire life,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:37

You

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:38

know And it's always like, even my musical taste, I, it was just trying

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:42

to impress some older girl, probably.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:44

You know what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:44

Like, that's, that's really what it boils down to.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:47

So I paid attention to what older girls

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:49

liked,

Jay Ray: 00:28:49

Yes.

Sir Daniel: 00:28:51

Hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:51

Older

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:51

girls that I liked, they listened to, like, they listened to like the breeders.

Jay Ray: 00:28:57

Ah,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:28:58

to like Cree Summer and,

Jay Ray: 00:29:00

Shout out to Street Faërie That record is amazing.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:03

like I kind of peeped to like, okay, this is with the older girls,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:07

I like, this is what they listened to.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:09

And I, a, a lot of my like, taste kind of came from that, that kind of way too.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:13

I ain't gonna lie, but like, that's how I discovered like tricky

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:16

and

Jay Ray: 00:29:17

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:17

you know what I

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:18

mean?

Jay Ray: 00:29:18

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:19

of groups that this is the type of music I like anyway, but like

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:23

that's, that really is kinda what did

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:26

it,

Jay Ray: 00:29:26

Hm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:26

that kind of shaped my, um, shaped my taste and the, just the desire

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:30

to like dig more in that like kind of

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:33

vein.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:33

Um, you know, I was in, I was in my early college years, uh, doing that

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:38

kind of the me soul kind of explosion.

Jay Ray: 00:29:40

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:41

The, like the, the, the, you know, the mainstream

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:43

wave

Jay Ray: 00:29:44

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:45

Voodoo and I would say like two of my favorite albums came

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:48

out the year I graduated high school, which is Kid A by Radiohead and Voodoo.

Jay Ray: 00:29:53

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:53

know

Jay Ray: 00:29:54

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:55

so that was the kind of music that was out.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:29:57

So that's, um, I was just on a hunt for anything like adjacent, a

Jay Ray: 00:30:04

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:04

like to this future soul, this new soul kind of thing.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:08

And then going to a lot of the record stores in Atlanta.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:11

Um, and just like like di looking for like off the wall things.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:17

Um, I used to go to more dusty than digital a lot, which was a spot that, um.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:24

Used to be, uh, in the parking lot, uh, kind of where MJQ and Drunken Unicorn is

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:29

now.

Sir Daniel: 00:30:30

Okay.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:31

they moved to off Ele Avenue, but, um, shout

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:34

out to, uh, to, to DJ Rashida.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:37

She used to work there.

Jay Ray: 00:30:38

Okay.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:39

and of course, you know, I'm, I'm a, I'm a young

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:41

kid

Jay Ray: 00:30:42

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:42

beautiful, this beautiful woman behind the

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:44

counter,

Jay Ray: 00:30:45

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:45

try, I'm

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:46

buying

Jay Ray: 00:30:46

You are like whatever you suggest,

Sir Daniel: 00:30:48

Whatever you say, I'm doing it.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:50

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:51

$50 fertile ground

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:52

import.

Jay Ray: 00:30:53

Sure, sure.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:54

know what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:30:54

So like,

Jay Ray: 00:30:56

The kids will never understand the need to import y'all.

Jay Ray: 00:30:59

We used to have to import things to

Jay Ray: 00:31:00

get

Sir Daniel: 00:31:00

My God,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:31:02

or imports, you know, so, oh man, this is ridiculous.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:06

you, you really unlocked the, you unlocked the memory just now.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:09

When you said kid a, uh, shout out to Qua in the chat.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:13

She and I, that was a squarely, an HV record store mainstay.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:18

We would wear that TV out.

Jay Ray: 00:31:20

So good.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:21

Every time we would, uh, you know, like if you were opening, I

Sir Daniel: 00:31:24

said this before, if you happen to be an opener at the store that day, you get to

Sir Daniel: 00:31:29

select what's played, you know, what goes on the, um, the CD playlist for the day.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:35

And Kidde was definitely a part of that.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:37

I'm Aida said something very interesting in the chat as well about another, this is

Sir Daniel: 00:31:41

another example of the power of feminine energy and it's, this is very true.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:46

Um,

Sir Daniel: 00:31:49

along my DJ journey, I have, I remember this one guy just randomly told me, make

Sir Daniel: 00:31:55

sure you look at what the women are doing.

Sir Daniel: 00:31:58

If the women, if it's making them move, you keep doing that because as long as

Sir Daniel: 00:32:03

the women are moving, then, then everybody else is gonna follow because the women are

Sir Daniel: 00:32:09

going to draw people to the dance floor.

Sir Daniel: 00:32:11

And that's just, that's just a, a true fact when it comes to the art of DJing.

Sir Daniel: 00:32:17

And it takes me to this next, I'm kind of flipping the subject.

Sir Daniel: 00:32:21

We're gonna go here a little bit

Sir Daniel: 00:32:24

about crowds and about social media and including them in what we do

Sir Daniel: 00:32:33

and how it's become glamorized and also been used as a marketing tool.

Sir Daniel: 00:32:38

So recently, um, I, I haven't seen any in the past few months now, but recently

Sir Daniel: 00:32:45

there were a lot of these videos popping up of these boiler room type set sets,

Sir Daniel: 00:32:51

DJ sets, and for the people listening at home or watching, we're talking about.

Sir Daniel: 00:32:56

The DJ is in front of the camera and there just happens to be, you

Sir Daniel: 00:33:00

know, just some random people behind them having a good time and dancing

Sir Daniel: 00:33:04

and, you know, whatever they're playing, whatever they're spinning.

Sir Daniel: 00:33:07

Uh, it is just, it's going off and people are just having the best time.

Sir Daniel: 00:33:11

So there, but then there's become this controversy surrounding the video.

Sir Daniel: 00:33:15

What's, what is your take on that whole, um, about those videos and the, the idea

Sir Daniel: 00:33:24

that a lot of like publishing companies or people who are, who are scouting,

Sir Daniel: 00:33:29

um, and grabbing a people's publishing are actually funding those types of

Sir Daniel: 00:33:35

videos to have people mash up records that they want to make popular again.

Sir Daniel: 00:33:41

Do you think that, do you think that the days of it being organic

Sir Daniel: 00:33:45

are gone or is it just, is it strictly a marketing thing now?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:33:50

Um, nah, I don't think it's gone.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:33:53

I think as long as there's people, they're gonna be kids

Jeremy Avalon: 00:33:55

like us, you know what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:33:57

There's gonna be kids who desire more, who, um, who can kind of see through it.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:01

I, I kind of feel two ways about it.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:03

It's like, um, I, I admire the creativity of a lot of these.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:09

Um, we've done, we've done

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:11

boiler

Jay Ray: 00:34:12

Mm-hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:34:13

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:14

and um, when we hosted it in Atlanta, is.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:19

You know, I, I get the, I get the aesthetic, I get the idea,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:22

and the videos are creative.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:23

Like, I mean, it's something that, uh, I don't wanna sound too, too

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:27

yy and babe, but it's something I would clean my house to, you know?

Sir Daniel: 00:34:32

I and.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:33

Yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:34:33

That's fine.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:34

but no, but like, I, I appreciate good visuals,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:37

you

Jay Ray: 00:34:38

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:39

I appreciate aesthetics and that's cool.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:42

Um, just, I, I think what, what happens a lot of times, a lot of people who do

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:48

that and are booked off of that quickly realize, depending on the crowd, that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:56

know, it, it is a different animal,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:57

you know,

Jay Ray: 00:34:58

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:34:58

it's not, a disrespect to people who do, to, you know, know,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:02

if, if you have a fun DJing, like, you know, hitting two pots and pans

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:07

together, you know, by all means.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:08

You know what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:09

But, but, uh, but, but yeah, but I just, I just think that, um, you know,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:17

it just in real life is different.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:19

And if you want to, if you want, if you're like a corporation, like one

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:23

of your event or something to mirror exactly what you saw in this video,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:28

you just have to like, take the video with a grain of salt that it, it is

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:32

a production, you know, in a way,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:35:35

you know

Jay Ray: 00:35:35

That is, and I mean honestly, I've always found, um, I love the

Jay Ray: 00:35:41

production on the boiler room stuff.

Jay Ray: 00:35:42

Like it's always like, and they've been, and it's consistent, right?

Jay Ray: 00:35:47

This is not like a new format, you know, in terms of how it's set up.

Jay Ray: 00:35:50

I was surprised to that point, sir Daniel, of being, seeing

Jay Ray: 00:35:54

it in like these other ways.

Jay Ray: 00:35:56

Like I was like, oh, that, oh, okay.

Jay Ray: 00:35:58

That's the thing that people are doing.

Jay Ray: 00:36:00

Um, I think that to that, I agree with you Jeremy.

Jay Ray: 00:36:04

I think that there will always be folks that are craving kind of a

Jay Ray: 00:36:07

little more and we could see like, oh, this is like a marketing thing.

Jay Ray: 00:36:11

Okay, I get that.

Jay Ray: 00:36:12

You know what I mean?

Jay Ray: 00:36:14

Um, Uh,

Jay Ray: 00:36:16

I

Sir Daniel: 00:36:16

the mashups because remember there, there was, I reached out to you,

Sir Daniel: 00:36:21

Jay Ray when, because there was uh, some DJs finally set what I was thinking.

Sir Daniel: 00:36:27

I was like, I'm so happy for you, for you that you realize that this

Sir Daniel: 00:36:30

BPM matches this BPM and you were able to put these songs together.

Sir Daniel: 00:36:36

It.

Sir Daniel: 00:36:38

I not serene on anybody's parade, but it was like, okay, this, it's cute,

Sir Daniel: 00:36:42

but it's, you know, it's kind of a mid, it's, it's mid, it's, you know, I've

Sir Daniel: 00:36:45

heard, I've heard that done before, or I've heard, you know, something

Sir Daniel: 00:36:49

similar and it, you know, I don't know.

Sir Daniel: 00:36:53

It's just one of those things where it's like you understand that people

Sir Daniel: 00:36:56

are, are, are discovering things.

Sir Daniel: 00:36:59

They're discovering music.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:00

Like we discovered it every day.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:02

And so what's old to us and what's old hat to us is, is fairly new to them.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:07

So that's, I had to kind of temper my criticism of that with that thought.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:13

Like, okay, I. Give, you know, you gotta give the kids some grace and space.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:17

But then when I found out about the whole, you know, these are ploys by

Sir Daniel: 00:37:22

these people that these, um, publishing scouts out there trying to make, you

Sir Daniel: 00:37:26

know, trying to shift the algorithm and trying to get people to, to buy their old

Sir Daniel: 00:37:30

catalog again because they bought it up.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:33

I was like, oh, that, that kind of makes sense.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:36

But yeah, I had to step back and stop and not be the old head, you know, the

Sir Daniel: 00:37:41

old head in the room that's always got something to say about the, the, you

Sir Daniel: 00:37:45

know, the kids doing what they feel and what is making them happy and what

Sir Daniel: 00:37:48

makes them, you know, makes them groove.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:50

So thank you for that.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:52

Thank you for that perspective, because I know I, I text Jay Ray

Sir Daniel: 00:37:55

at least three to four times.

Sir Daniel: 00:37:57

Like, you see this,

Sir Daniel: 00:37:59

it.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:00

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:03

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:03

I, I, I think with technology, things become less sacred

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:06

a

Jay Ray: 00:38:07

Ooh.

Jay Ray: 00:38:07

Say that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:08

uh, there's like, there's certain songs that like.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:13

They're just, we're still from that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:15

We're like the last Li Mohicans,

Jay Ray: 00:38:17

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:17

that, that hold a lot of these, these songs sacred.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:20

Like

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:20

when

Sir Daniel: 00:38:21

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:21

like mashups or smells like Teen Spirit or like, like stuff like that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:26

Like you can't touch, like I, I, I still have that feeling of like,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:30

man, you can't mess with these rec.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:32

Like there's certain records that, oh, don't mash up Billie

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:35

Jean with Billie Eilish.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:37

I don't want to hear

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:38

that.

Jay Ray: 00:38:38

Right?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:38

on.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:39

know, it, there's certain things that we hold

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:41

sacred, um, and there's just,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:44

but technology just becomes less.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:38:46

So

Sir Daniel: 00:38:47

Jeremy Avalon and everything that he's done in Atlanta

Sir Daniel: 00:38:50

and beyond is something to be respected.

Sir Daniel: 00:38:53

And so we're very grateful that you, um, took this time out to, to spend

Sir Daniel: 00:38:57

it with us and to just chop it up.

Sir Daniel: 00:38:59

But as we wrap this up, Jeremy, I want you to have the last word.

Sir Daniel: 00:39:03

Please let the listeners and the viewers know how they can consistently follow you.

Sir Daniel: 00:39:08

Um, let us in on any upcoming projects that you have.

Sir Daniel: 00:39:12

I know you've done, you, you can't, you have, you dropped it already, but

Sir Daniel: 00:39:16

I know you were working on something.

Sir Daniel: 00:39:18

Um, a project, a remix project, if I'm not mistaken.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:22

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:22

Yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:39:23

So,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:23

uh, I am working on a, a remix project.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:26

Um, I've been just hoarding music too much and it is, it's, it is a, I'm, I'm

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:32

sick of doing that, you know what I mean?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:33

Like, I just, I, I make it all the time and I always, you know, we

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:38

overthink

Jay Ray: 00:39:38

mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:40

and I, I've been just inspired by a lot of, a lot of music,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:44

a lot of reggae, um, right now.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:47

Um, and I just, I've been, uh, I haven't really heard any, like,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:51

remixes of any of like the Marley kids

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:54

music

Jay Ray: 00:39:54

Yeah.

Sir Daniel: 00:39:55

Hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:39:55

So I'm, I have a, a, a kind of a lo-fi like just guitar, bass

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:00

keys, kind of, um, you know, head nod

Jay Ray: 00:40:03

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:03

of versions of some of my favorite, uh, music of Bob's kids.

Jay Ray: 00:40:07

Nice.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:08

So, yeah, I got that.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:10

I, I have my event, high

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:12

Key

Jay Ray: 00:40:12

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:13

um, at MJQ and sometimes monthly at El Malo.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:16

Also,

Jay Ray: 00:40:17

Okay.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:17

we have a YouTube channel as well, uh, where you can see a set,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:22

uh, at the, one of the very last ones at the, uh, 7 36 location at MJQ.

Jay Ray: 00:40:27

Yes,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:28

that's a legendary, uh, moment.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:30

Um,

Jay Ray: 00:40:31

Knights.

Jay Ray: 00:40:31

Was Knights over Egypt the last song?

Jay Ray: 00:40:33

Is that what it was?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:34

Oh, so wasn't that night.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:37

But yeah, the,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:37

I,

Jay Ray: 00:40:38

Oh, okay.

Jay Ray: 00:40:38

Cool.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:38

play the last night and I played nice over

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:40

Egypt as the last song in there.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:42

Um, I, I just, uh, released a, uh, a video with control, uh, to, uh, Empress Rod

Jay Ray: 00:40:48

Yes.

Sir Daniel: 00:40:49

Yes.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:50

that is like full of, if you like, like.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:40:54

nineties, uh, r and b, like a lot of UK flavored loose ends,

Sir Daniel: 00:40:59

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:00

Tara Kemp

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:01

type

Jay Ray: 00:41:02

Yeah.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:03

one's for you.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:04

Um, you know, like I was saying earlier, um, you know, being like oldest millennial

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:09

around, um, I'm like one of the few people that still like, plays a lot of that

Jay Ray: 00:41:14

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:14

I was probably old enough,

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:16

you know?

Jay Ray: 00:41:16

Right?

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:17

it.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:18

Listen, Jay Ray, when he dropped Loose Ends, don't be a fool.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:22

On Saturday,

Sir Daniel: 00:41:24

me and Madison were singing at the top of our lungs.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:27

I was.

Jay Ray: 00:41:28

Don't be a fool.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:32

Right.

Jay Ray: 00:41:34

song.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:35

And, and going to, going to England as a young

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:37

age, that really kind of sparked

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:39

all

Jay Ray: 00:41:39

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:39

For

Jeremy Avalon: 00:41:40

sure.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:40

Absolutely.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:41

But this has been a pleasure, Jeremy.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:43

Um, appreciate you so much, so much for doing this and for sitting

Sir Daniel: 00:41:48

in with the Queue Points podcast.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:50

Jay Ray, let's wrap this up.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:52

Let the people know all the people that Jay Ray has, um, that Jeremy has brought

Sir Daniel: 00:41:55

along with him to watch us tonight.

Sir Daniel: 00:41:57

They need to know how to keep in contact with Queue Points while we got

Sir Daniel: 00:42:00

'em here, so, so hit them to the game.

Jay Ray: 00:42:02

absolutely.

Jay Ray: 00:42:03

Thank y'all so much.

Jay Ray: 00:42:04

As we always say, if you can, uh, see our faces or hear our voices, subscribe

Jay Ray: 00:42:08

wherever you are, share the show with your friends, family, colleagues.

Jay Ray: 00:42:11

Chances are if you love Queue Points, they will love Queue Points as well.

Jay Ray: 00:42:15

Thank you so much Jeremy Avalon for coming and hanging out with us,

Jay Ray: 00:42:18

man, like I respect you so much.

Jay Ray: 00:42:21

And not only that, you have gotten me together on the dance floor.

Jay Ray: 00:42:26

I appreciate it.

Jay Ray: 00:42:27

So thank you so much.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:42:28

you dancing.

Jeremy Avalon: 00:42:29

Thank you

Jay Ray: 00:42:30

Absolutely.

Sir Daniel: 00:42:31

Absolutely.

Jay Ray: 00:42:32

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Jay Ray: 00:42:35

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Jay Ray: 00:42:54

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Jay Ray: 00:42:58

our store@store.Queue Points.com.

Jay Ray: 00:43:01

We appreciate y'all, we love y'all.

Sir Daniel: 00:43:05

That'll do it.

Sir Daniel: 00:43:06

All right.

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What do I say?

Sir Daniel: 00:43:07

Every week y'all, in this life, you have a choice.

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You can either pick up the needle or you could let the record play.

Sir Daniel: 00:43:12

I'm DJ Sir Daniel,

Jay Ray: 00:43:14

my name is Jay Ray,

Jay Ray: 00:43:16

this

Sir Daniel: 00:43:16

that's Jeremy Avalon.

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And this has been Queue Points podcast, dropping the

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needle on black music history.

Sir Daniel: 00:43:23

We will see you on the next go round.

Sir Daniel: 00:43:25

Peace.