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Welcome to a case study episode of the
Inside Knowledge, where I share with
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:you some clinical insights from the
work I've done with certain clients.
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:Sometimes when I meet someone before we've
started working together, the things I
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:think are going to be important actually
turn out to be something quite different.
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:And this episode is a
good example of that.
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:The same applies to some of my clients.
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:Some of the things that they think
are most important and take up all
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:of their brain space are actually
not the things that are going to
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:drive the biggest improvement to
their irritable bowel symptoms.
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:In this episode, we'll talk a lot
about how to gain weight with IBS and
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:how to change your approach to eating
in order to get better digestion.
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:Welcome to the case study episode.
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:These are always quite popular
when I look at my analytics.
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:I think you really enjoy Seeing some
of the things that I do with individual
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:clients and some of the ways that it
hasn't worked as well because I like to
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:be really honest about what I've tried
and what people have enjoyed and what
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:people are not prepared to do as well.
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:So let me tell you a bit about Priya.
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:I worked with her over four months.
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:When she first came to me, she
had been diagnosed with celiac
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:disease for four years or so
and had had IBS for another two.
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:This is quite common in people who have
another health condition, where they are
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:treating and managing the symptoms, and
yet they've still got ongoing problems,
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:so they actually are diagnosed with IBS
on top of another digestive condition.
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:The sorts of symptoms that she was getting
was a lot of bloating, some exposure
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:Explosive gas and a lot of mucus as
well and it came in flare ups over the
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:course of those two years But prior to
working with me it was becoming more
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:and more frequent and she was finding
she was reacting to lots of different
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:foods There didn't seem to be any clear
triggers really there was nothing obvious.
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:So she was looking for somebody to give
her some structure and help her find a way
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:out of this very confusing food landscape.
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:She was managing her
celiac disease very well.
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:She was super careful in terms of
not having any gluten in the house.
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:She was very cautious around eating
with other people or eating out and
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:so there was no thought that she
was being contaminated with gluten.
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:It was really well managed condition
and she was very educated about it.
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:So that was great because it
sort of ruled out that potential.
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:Sometimes people who have been recently
diagnosed with celiac disease, and I've
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:also worked with people who haven't been
taking it as seriously as they could be,
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:and perhaps they're sharing butter with
their husband or whatever, and there's
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:crumbs in the house and just getting
some level of gluten contamination
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:and it can lead to digestive symptoms.
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:So that was great that she could really
easily reassure me that that was not
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:the issue, and that was not her problem.
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:She came to me really because she'd also
worked with another nutritional therapist
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:in the past, but they hadn't been able
to give her any personalized advice.
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:They'd just literally given her a lot
of handouts that seemed very generic
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:and they weren't helping her tailor
it and helping her actually implement
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:it, which was what she needed.
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:She was a busy person she just really
needed some reassurance, some support
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:really, and so she was very Pleased about
the weekly calls that we had, the space
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:to chat, to ask questions, just for really
informal conversations about digestion and
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:food, and she was really open to learning.
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:Now, as I mentioned, her main
problems was this, like, explosive
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:gas and mucus, and she had had all
the kind of tests that you can run
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:at the doctors, they all were clear.
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:She didn't have any ongoing
doctor's appointments, she's
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:had like a clear ultrasound.
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:She'd had a stool test She'd had a blood
test to look at the fecal calprotectin
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:Levels and like general blood levels of
inflammation and all of them were low.
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:She'd also had her gluten Antibodies
tested and again, they were low.
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:So it was really great.
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:We had A clear round of tests.
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:The problem is, is that it doesn't
really lead you down a treatment route.
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:So sometimes you get all the tests
coming back saying, Yes, you're fine.
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:There's nothing wrong with you.
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:And actually, you're not fine.
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:You're really not fine.
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:And it can be extremely frustrating.
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:When I started going a bit more into
detail with Priya about what she ate,
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:the list of foods that she couldn't eat
was very long, and this is one of the
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:first things I noticed, that there was
a lot of foods on the restriction list.
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:The major problem with this was
that she had a very small body size.
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:She was underweight if you look at the
BMI testing and I know we all know that
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:BMI is not a great measure of health.
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:However, when I can also put
this together with symptoms
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:that the client is telling me.
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:about their digestion, but also
other symptoms, like energy
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:levels and headaches, for example.
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:And I can see their food diary, so
I can see the kinds of foods they're
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:eating, how often they're eating, etc.
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:This does give me a picture of whether
they're eating enough, and they are
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:underweight for their body size.
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:In this case, I really strongly
felt that she was not eating enough.
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:In situations like this, I have to be,
as a, you know, nutrition professional,
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:I have to be really certain about
the way people feel about eating.
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:So whether it's disordered eating,
or an eating disorder, or is it just
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:restrictions that have been put in place.
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:around food in order to control
symptoms and it kind of got out of
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:hand and escalated a little bit.
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:So, I was very clear that I
would only work with this person
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:if she agreed to eat more food.
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:And she was very happy to do that.
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:But she was wanting to manage
the symptoms and wanted a lot
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:of reassurances not to eat foods
that are increasing her symptoms.
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:So, we had, you know, a little bit
of back and forth at the beginning.
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:Some of the things that were also Making
me think she wasn't eating enough was
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:really that she was getting frequent
headaches, particularly in the morning.
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:Her energy levels were quite low, but
she also had a real tendency to push on
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:through, try not to take breaks, like just
keep on working, keep on going, despite
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:feeling pretty ill with her stomach and
with her headaches and energy levels.
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:So let's get into what we actually did.
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:I started off by, as I said, making
sure she was eating enough and trying to
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:stick to low FODMAP foods to begin with.
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:She was already on a very
restrictive diet and I didn't want
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:to cut anything out of her diet.
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:I wanted to increase it and
make sure that she was eating
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:more food but also more variety.
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:So we started off just increasing
low FODMAP foods until she
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:was eating more quantity.
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:Part of the reason for her many
restrictions and eating, you know,
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:little small meals and not wanting to
get full was that she felt that food
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:sits really heavy in her stomach, and
she just said, I can't eat big portions.
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:It makes me feel awful.
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:We had to think about foods that were
gonna be easy to digest, but I also spent
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:quite a bit of time with her working on
how to chew your food, sitting upright,
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:try to make a nice special meal of it
rather than just eating small portions,
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:totally scared of what you're eating
and how it's gonna be affecting you.
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:That was quite a big thing at the
beginning, just to make sure that she was
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:eating more food and eating more often.
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:We worked on a clear reintroduction
plan, like picking some foods that
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:she thought that she would want to eat
and gradually bringing them back in.
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:It was very, very simple.
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:slow process.
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:Everyone I work with has a different
pace and things that they can manage.
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:But this was a pretty
slow one, I have to say.
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:But that's fine, that's, that's
what she could manage at that time.
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:There's no pressure, there's no rush.
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:You have to start from where you are.
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:You can't work on my deadlines.
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:It has to be what fits with you.
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:Another thing I want to just sort of draw
to your attention though, is when you are
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:in that state where you are afraid to eat
anything, You feel like when you do eat,
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:it sits really heavy in your stomach, and
you're worried about digestive symptoms
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:lower down, like gas and bloating and
mucus and, you know, explosive poos.
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:Then, that was definitely
changing her appetite.
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:So when you don't eat much, you tend
to, over time, reduce your appetite
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:and actually it's quite hard to
eat a normal amount of food or what
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:you should be eating for your body
size when you don't have a desire
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:to eat like you're not ravenous.
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:If it was me and I suddenly went to eat
the amount of food that she was eating
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:I'd be really really hungry but over
time she'd kind of reduced it down and
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:down and down and so was really eating
small amounts but not getting enough
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:nutrition and that was what I was
working on with her like hammering home.
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:This is why you need protein.
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:This is why you need zinc.
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:This is why you need iron.
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:It's like really trying to educate and
trying to push in some reasons for eating.
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:So it's not just about regulating
your digestive system.
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:It's also about making sure that
you've got enough energy to function.
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:You've got enough energy to perform
high pressured jobs, you need a certain
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:amount of energy for your brain to
be able to function well at work.
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:And particularly where you're
someone who has, a key role in
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:your business, or maybe you're a
business owner and you're the only
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:person who's running that business.
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:You need to be looking after
yourself and prioritizing yourself.
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:As a business asset, because
actually, if you don't, who's going
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:to look after you, who's going to
run the business if it's not you.
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:So if you are someone who runs
your own business, you need to
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:prioritize some self care in order
to keep your business on the road.
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:Just going back to the appetite as well.
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:I want to mention sometimes.
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:Where people have got very low
appetite, something that might be
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:worth checking is your zinc levels.
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:There is some research showing
that people who have got reduced
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:appetite sometimes are low in zinc.
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:It's a fairly cheap nutrient that you can
get and it's quite easy to get hold of.
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:Sometimes it can help to make
sure that your appetite is not
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:being suppressed by low zinc.
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:It might just be worth a blood test,
taking some zinc to see how you feel.
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:for a short amount of time.
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:You shouldn't take zinc long term
unless you know that you are low in it.
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:However, it's worth trying.
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:All food sources of zinc include
pumpkin seeds, meat and fish.
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:Priya also was not very good at eating
in the morning and I felt that her
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:headaches were A byproduct of not
having enough glucose in your system
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:and her body was just alerting her
to the fact that she needed to eat.
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:So we had an agreement that she would
eat within 30 minutes of waking up.
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:There were a couple of foods we
introduced that she just didn't think
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:she was going to be able to cope with
like broccoli and pineapple and steak
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:but these went really well and she was
happily eating them and like really
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:incorporating them into her diet.
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:So she was just starting to get some
good sources of you know, iron, some
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:different sources of fibre and that
was really helping actually and after
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:about two months of working together
The gas and the mucus was very rare.
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:She was having kind of loose ish
stools, like a type 5 if you look
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:at the Bristol stool chart, but
it was not considered diarrhoea.
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:It was just on the looser side.
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:But this was, so this
was really encouraging.
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:Her digestive symptoms Basically went
away over the course of those two
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:months and she started to eat more food.
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:So it was going well.
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:Then she had a little setback in
that she had a pet that died and
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:she also had a very big work project
that all coincided at the same time.
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:This really set her back a lot in
terms of reverting to eating behaviors
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:like not eating enough, not really
looking after herself enough and kind
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:of Just dropping all of those self care
practices that we've put into place.
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:Now when she did that it also
kicked off her digestive symptoms.
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:So it was a really clear indication
that stress and emotions were also
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:tied up with digestive function.
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:So you know the gut brain connection
is really strong and where people
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:are nervous, stressed and not
sleeping well, not eating well.
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:This does play out in our digestive system
and you definitely get an upset stomach
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:when you feel nervous, when you haven't
eaten properly and then you eat a big
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:meal or you're just running around and not
feeding and fueling your body properly.
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:The main focus for the last few months of
working with Priya was really about trying
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:to set up some self care practices that
would actually sustain her in busy times
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:but also to get her out of this flare up.
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:So I was working a lot on how to work
out what your body actually needs, how to
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:listen to your body so that you understand
the signals that your body is giving you.
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:This is quite common, I find, with
people I work with who have minimized
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:their digestive symptoms by not
eating, and it can happen over time.
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:But basically, You ignore your hunger
so much that you forget what hunger
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:actually feels like and maybe you
are feeling hunger But you're not
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:noticing it as that and registering it.
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:So for example Getting headaches, feeling
a bit dizzy, feeling a bit weak and tired
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:These can be signs that you're not eating
enough and the rumbly tummy feeling is
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:sometimes not the start of a flare up,
it is the sign that you need to eat more.
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:So this is what we spent a
bit of time working on is what
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:Does hunger feel like for you?
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:Everybody has a slightly
different sensation of hunger.
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:But when you've ignored hunger for so
long because you're trying to not eat,
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:because every time you eat, you're
getting these terrible symptoms,
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:then you start to blank it out.
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:And so when you do that, this person
had a tendency to block out other
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:sensations in her body as well and
just had really Tried to ignore the
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:terrible symptoms, but had kind of
lost that connection to her own body.
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:One of the questions that I really
like to ask people in this kind of
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:situation, and maybe it's something you
can think about if this resonates for
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:you, is thinking, what is the most kind
thing I could do for my body right now?
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:Maybe it's go to eat, maybe it's
go and have a lie down, maybe you
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:take a deep breath, maybe you need
a drink of water, maybe you need
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:a cuddle from somebody you love.
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:Sometimes, what your body
actually needs and what you
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:want to do are different things.
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:But when we learn to listen properly to
what the body is asking for, then we're
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:much more connected and we are better
able to manage the symptoms because we are
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:not overriding some of the early warning
signs that are being sent from the body.
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:So for example, if you are constantly
overriding hunger, then actually
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:learning to tune into that and
eat when you start to feel hunger.
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:can stop an escalation of those
symptoms which might be the headaches,
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:it might be feeling completely
drained, feeling anxiety increasing
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:because your blood sugars have dipped.
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:This is fairly common with
people who I work with with IBS.
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:We worked on increasing her
appreciation of her own senses.
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:So for example, she would take one
day and try to, really smell five
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:things, for example, really noticing
the smell of, it could be a food, but
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:it also could be a perfume, a flower.
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:Washing liquid, anything really,
just to really notice the smells.
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:Then the next day, really focusing in
on touch, like what does, um, I don't
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:know, a piece of clothing, like a
nice soft scarf, some grass outside.
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:Really thinking about the sensation
that your body is giving you, because
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:tapping back in, it's just like a
practical way to tap back into some of
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:the messages from your body to your brain.
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:The thing we worked on was really
trying to create a list of self care
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:activities that she could go back to.
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:Sometimes when you get overwhelmed
you just can't think and so making
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:sure that she had it written down
these are the things that I can do
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:When I feel overwhelmed or when I feel
like things aren't going well for me
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:digestively, maybe I can buy myself
some flowers, maybe I can have a little
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:dance to some music if I feel like it.
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:Maybe I can go and lie down for
10 minutes and have a mini nap.
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:Maybe I can take some deep breaths
or like do some basic yoga.
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:Those kind of things are very helpful
when you don't practice self care.
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:So when it's not something that comes
naturally, it's having it written down
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:that says, these are things that I
can do that are helpful for my body.
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:And it doesn't have to be
about food all the time.
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:So yes, there were loads of
things we talked about with her
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:diet, like increasing her range,
increasing her volume of food.
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:And like I said, the digestive
symptoms really did calm down.
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:A lot of my gut reset program is
actually focused on Helping you feel
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:better in other aspects of your life,
not just focusing on what you eat.
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:It's also your relationship to your
food, your relationship to your body.
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:This was a little bit of a different case
for me, in that the digestive symptoms
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:calmed down pretty quickly, and during the
time together we were working on really
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:her relationship with her body and her
relationship with her food and her diet.
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:And it kind of went a bit broader
than just the things I normally do.
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:And I just thought that it might be
useful for you to listen to that.
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:If any of it resonates, maybe you
can take something from this episode
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:and apply it to your own life.
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:By the end of our time working
together, Priya said, Yes, I
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:got what I wanted out of this.
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:It was targeted advice,
and I know how to carry on.
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:Like, she still had a long way to go in
terms of her relationship with her body,
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:her relationship with food, and, just
general self care, like I was talking
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:about those kind of practices, making
it something natural and normal to do.
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:But, she really knew what to do.
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:Steps were, and I think that's
sometimes where you get a bit muddled.
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:There's so many things you could be doing.
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:You can read all the blogs, listen to
all the podcasts about IBS, and everybody
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:is telling you to do different things.
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:And that's because they're probably
all good things, but they don't all
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:apply to you in your life right now.
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:And having someone to help you work
it through can be very transformative.
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:So that is where I'm going
to leave it for this week.
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:If you want to work with me, you
can reach out, just get in touch
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:in my email addresses in the show
notes and also on my website.
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:And I'd love to hear from you if you are
interested in finding out a bit more.
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:You can also follow me on Instagram,
where I post a lot of videos and other
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:information about IBS, digestion and diet.
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:That's it for this week,
I will leave it there.
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:Thanks for listening to
The Inside Knowledge.
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:Better digestion for everyone.