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In this episode, Rob and Tina share personal stories, reflect on life's unexpected turns, and discuss the importance of authenticity and resilience. They explore how life's challenges shape us and the value of honest conversations.

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And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Twisted. I am Rob along with my co host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

I'm hanging in there, Rob. How you doin'?

I'm about the same. I'm not not for not for similar reasons, just in general. You know, life. yeah, I think it's just a life thing. Like I started one the other day I was talking with somebody at work and I was just like this and that and this and you know, you you you just think you're gonna be somewhere else and you're not.

Tina (00:19.441)

Okay. Spill the beans.

You know what I mean? Like sometimes you just I go, I thought things were gonna be different. But no, they're not. So

Yeah.

You know, I've I've heard people say that before and I've never I've never like judged myself, you should be here at this age or you should be there at that age because some things I did way sooner and then others I did way later. So I just had the realization not to put that much, you know, stress on it. And you know, I never thought I'd be divorced living at my dad's house, but here I am, killing it, you know.

Right.

Yeah. I mean I I don't that's not I mean yes, but that's not what I'm really I'm more thinking about like of of no of things that were happening and then just kind of disappear dissipated. You're like, I thought that was gonna be something different. Yeah, and you're just like, well and then I I don't know, I started thinking like, why didn't that pan out? Like, hmm, where did it go off the rail?

Job wise or

Thought it was gonna pan out.

You know, somebody once told me that that

You know, there's there's

crap, I lost it. No, that th y you have to sometimes be grateful for the things that didn't happen. You know, the unanswered prayers that you didn't that you that you made and you made and you made and then it felt like n they they weren't ever heard or that they never came to be. But then I think what what are you being spared? 'Cause that was another thing I heard, like you don't know what you're being spared. And I think about that too, and I'm like

Robb (02:14.164)

Yeah.

I shouldn't care. You know?

Yeah. No, I I I understand. I I'm I'm I kinda do the same thing. And and look, like I think it's it's just it's easy to armchair quarterback your life. You know what I mean? Like but I just think that like I was like, man, I was in a good place here a little while ago and I was like, hmm. And and again, like I always think the the opposite of that is I'm sure I had something to do with it, at least a little bit. and

Yeah.

Yeah, it is.

And that's probably true. And look, you know, without going into too much detail, I always seem to be at the the the forefront of just some crazy shit. So you know, and and I know I put myself inside that little box because of crazy stuff that I do in my life, but

Man, I'm I'm too old to be doing that kind of shit, I think. That's why I think Yeah. I I need to I think I need to not do things. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I we know we talk about what we were gonna talk about on something on the show today. I sent you a video, and you were like, I wanna talk about that.

Ready to do something different?

I forgot about that.

Yeah, well look, there's a lot going on for you, so I didn't bring it up. And and and we'll do it next week and I wanna sit down and rewatch the video and actually excuse me, clip it so we can have some of these insanely things that were said on it. So we can play on here, 'cause

I've got away, yeah.

It actually made me mad. I was like, Rob, why'd you have to send this to me? It it I was like, You ass, I don't want to be upset today and I talked about it because I was upset all day about it. Like it it affected me and yeah. Great, great times.

yeah. I n I knew when I pressed the button.

I was like

Yeah.

And and get this. I waited to send you that. Because I watched it at like five o'clock in the morning before work. And I was like, what the fuck? And then so I I bookmarked it on my YouTube and I was like, someone else is getting this today. And I was like, I've been I've been meaning to send her that. Well, I told you I was gonna send you one and I just haven't yet. But I thought that one, there were so many

I'm gonna send it to Tina.

obnoxious things said, I was like, yeah, this is the one. So basically we'll it it's a dating thing with women and men and how we're really going in opposite directions. But we'll talk about it next week because it was it was I wanted actually Yeah. And I want to deep dive into it more because I want to actually re-listen to it again. And like I said, I'm gonna clip it so we can I think you're gonna have to again. I think probably right before we do the show. But I'm gonna clip

Yeah.

It was disturbing. I was pissed off.

Yeah.

Gonna make me listen to it again?

boy.

Some of the ones that I think are just obnoxious.

I'll watch it, but I I'm gonna do it when I'm already in a bad mood, not when I'm in a good mood because that was a lot. I was mad.

Yeah, yeah. 'Cause it's not fun. yeah. So obviously if you're listening to this, it's Wednesday still, but really late 'cause we're we didn't we couldn't record yesterday like we usually we usually record on Mondays or Tuesdays for the people who don't know. we usually it's like we do it literally right before the show comes out 'cause

You know, we have lives on the weekends and we do things and you're riding a lot and a bunch of other things. So yesterday we couldn't do it because you had some personal things. So I I was like, today let's just bullshit about things and like whatever comes up. So and I think that sometimes that is what we all need to do. Because look, we talk about lots of things on this. a lot of personal stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know, deep diving into real deep personal stuff, we scratch the surface. I, you know, there's some things that I think that not that we can't talk about, just I think there's other people involved. And even though we don't talk about things on this show, it's

Mm-hmm.

Easy for people on the outside to insinuate. And I've had many people.

'Cause I'll talk about something and then someone else will think it's about them.

Everybody thinks it's about them.

Correct. Which I mean, I hate to say this, but that's kind of the point of a podcast is to put yourself in the place of said character. You know, and and I don't mean that like we're telling stories because what we talk about is very true. But that is part of this, is that someone out there, when I tell a story.

Yeah.

There's a character on the other side of that that is a hundred percent real.

Mm-hmm.

But i it could have been from five months ago or it could have been from ten years ago.

So I I I'm I wanna kinda throw something out there for our for the people who listen to this show. it's not always about you.

Mm.

Okay? because it's not. And

Yes.

Because I've had interactions with people from my past.

Again, it doesn't mean it's about you.

Right.

Because some people from my past of twenty years ago, I've had you know, I've hung out with, you know, recently, and they don't even live in this state. So for some people who might be thinking it's about them or someone else, it's not, it's about someone who lives out of state. So in the case of

Just this show in general. Take it for what it is. It's two people talking about real life shit and throwing their opinions into it. That was the whole idea when we sat down in Denny's. I said, I have this idea. You know, I want to kind of do this, this, and this, but I want to give our opinions of obviously.

Very true.

A male and a female. That was kind of the premise of this from the very beginning. I even though me and you have very similar moral compasses. So, like that's why we that's why we don't. I mean, all in all, yes, because we don't argue a lot on here. So we we you know I think our moral compasses are similar. It doesn't mean they're the same.

Mm-hmm.

Do we though? No.

No.

I just think that they walk down the same dirty alley.

Well, we also grew up in the same place during the same time with the same people, you know, it's there's same influences for sure.

Correct.

I mean, that's true, but it's not, because there's people that are very close to me that I'm nothing like. But I still consider them my friends. Because but a lot of people, but a lot of people wouldn't, unfortunately. I'm sure to them I'm a redheaded stepchild. They're like they're like, blah blah blah, Rob, and people go, Which is okay.

for sure. Me too.

Yeah.

You're tough.

that guy.

Yeah. 'Cause look, I I've said it on here many times and and I think you have the same I think that's why we get along so well, Tina, 'cause me and you both have kind of the same look. We're either liked or we're not, and we're both okay with it. You know what I mean? Like

Mm-hmm.

Yep. Yeah. Well, you have to be. I mean, we're not kids anymore. This is you know, at some point you gotta get over shit.

N no, but I'm I but I know full fledged adults that give a shit what people think about And look, there's nothing wrong with that either. That's fine if that's who you are. I have no problem with that. And and look, I kinda commend them. Like they do give a shit about how people see them. I'm just to the point where it's like, look, I I'm me. I

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I'm I can't change now. And I say crazy shit sometimes and it comes back to bite me every blue moon. Yeah. It it happens. but I've had people listen to this show who are close to me but not like that I see them. Right? So they could live, you know

Right.

State away, they could live five states away. I have a friend in Iowa that listens to this show that texted me this morning. And she went, Why isn't there a show out today? And I was like, yeah, we're working on that today. sorry. you know, this is what happened. And she goes, okay, cool.

I was just wondering, like I I was like, and and I think it was really just like I listened to the show every week. I was just wondering why you guys weren't on. And I kind of took that because I haven't seen this girl, like personally seen her since I was 18 years old. Yeah, it was the summer I went back to Iowa, but she's such a good person. She's funny. She sends me like a

Wow.

Pictures of her cats doing dumb shit. It's like it's super cool. She's married, she's got kids. You know, it it's it's interesting to think about the girl that I met that summer. And that she's like a mom and a career lady. And it's like, you know what I mean? And probably similar to like how we see high school friends sometimes. You run into them and you're like, yeah, you're

yeah.

Yeah.

You know, you're a lawyer now. Like, that's weird. It's it's just odd. So I'm glad that and I think that she gets, you know, the humor of the show and she gets the our friendship and how how it works. But you know, my bigger thing with this is like don't take it personally.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

It it's probably not about you.

Or maybe it is or maybe it is

Or maybe it is. I think look, if you think it's about you, it probably is. You know what I mean? Like and and I have, you know, look, I have nicknames for a lot of people. Because it works, and then they know I'm talking about them. And I'm okay with that. Because the people that I do talk about on here,

Yeah.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

I would consider them fr amazing friends, even though I haven't talked to some of them in a while. So I would have no problem if I said something on here and and she texts me tomorrow and said, Hey, and I'd go, okay, well, you know, this is what I meant. And that would be it. It wouldn't even go deeper than that. It wouldn't have to. So I'm glad that we can.

Be us teen. Because you know, you've gone through a lot of stuff. A lot of people don't know like how deep the thing is with your house and how it's been in rubble for a year and a half. Or two years. Yeah. So like, and we've talked about it on here and in in haha and in jest. And not like

Hmm. It'll be two years in July next month.

And I know you're going through it and you want it done. 'Cause like I understand. Two years though, I would I would fucking want to kill somebody.

Mm-hmm.

Mm. you just don't know.

no, I I can I can imagine my imagination is that good, Tina. And I'm sure your dad wants to, you know, pardon the Indian the Indian haha, but scalp him. Like it's it's a lot. So and I've seen it some days you're great with it and then other days you're like and I was like,

Mm-hmm.

D

Yeah.

It's a lot, yeah.

And I remember when I came out there, I came out there, I know, months and months, months ago. And it was interesting to walk in your place and I was like, it's empty. It was just like and so I even though we say things about people on here and we insinuate because of people from our past or our present, because that is also so you know, things that are there.

Yeah.

You know, we're still people, we're still human and

Completely. I mean what else would we be, Rob?

No, but I mean people think that like, you you know, you get on here and you know, I I don't come on here and tell stories to tell stories. 'Cause we talk about things. And like

Yeah. I don't come on with any real like agenda at all. I just sit and talk to my friend for forty five minutes or so and then I'm on my way.

Yeah. Exactly. And I think other people don't understand that too. Like, there's like a ten minutes in the beginning that no one ever hears because it's just us bullshitting. And then there's about five minutes at the very end that no one hears. And then literally it's like, cool teen, I'll talk to you in couple days and we'll talk about next week.

No, that's

So here here's here's how I am. This this should break it down for you. So Rob comes over to my ex's house 'cause we're gonna do a podcast over at his house. So we all meet up there. Rob comes and he has his tablet and his notes and what have you and all the gear 'cause he had to bring it and my ex shows up and he's got notes on a clipboard and and his drink and he's all ready and I just came with with a jar of weed. That was what

Yeah.

I showed up with. I I really don't come with an agenda. I mean, if you want me to know something ahead of time or you want me to talk about it, yes, I'll I'll check it out. I'll I'll look into it. But what you get with me is what's going on right now in my head at the moment that we're recording.

Right.

Yeah, that's a hundred percent true. For people who don't know. Every blue moon. Yeah, I'll come on here with some notes as well. Every blue moon.

Yeah.

But it's it's just

But man, you're ex.

he has enough notes for both of us. I told him that and he laughed. He's like, Yeah, I guess I I I did some research or whatever and I'm like, Okay. He it's funny.

If he had. my goodness.

Yeah. I I was I I was like I remember like I had my my iPad in front of me and I just had some like haha like I can if you guys said something I could drive the conversation. Like literally it was maybe like seven sentences. And then I look over and he's got a fucking notebook and I was like, holy shit. And it

Yeah.

Mm.

Yeah. He I I'm sure he has a lot that he would like to say to me, obviously, because we didn't really fight or anything, but but when I saw the notepad, I'm like, ooh, I could be getting in trouble today. But but the weed was the perfect thing to have with me for that 'cause if it was gonna be something he I knew he'd tell the truth, but I was like, he's gonna sock it to me. Let's go smoke some weed.

Yeah.

I kinda I kinda thought the same when I first saw the notes. I was like, okay, like in my head I was more like, this could get bad really quickly. And and then I started thinking, I'm here and this could get bad really quickly and I don't want to be uncomfortable.

But you know,

Yeah.

Yeah, no, you could have been. I was uncomfortable for you to be honest. I was like, he's got some things he wants to say to me. And and and I was like, Rob's gonna have to hear this. I don't even like hearing this. I don't even like going through this. fuck. I I didn't know. I mean yeah. But you know, I but I did know that here's the flip side. I also know the person that that I

that had asked to be on the show. You know, I I I know him. He's my ex. He's my he's still very much my people. And and I and I do know him and I do know his character and and I I bet on it, you know, and I'm glad I did. I think it was good for us to talk and and there were some things when I heard how he felt or I saw the look in his eyes that I just went back and apologized for. I mean, I don't need to do that, but

it it seemed like it really hurt him and I'm just not trying to leave him hurt. So it it was a good thing all around, but I think about it like, what the hell were you thinking, T? Like you just let's go straight at it

Yeah. It I I think in general this show, what's the best way I could put this? This show can go sideways at any time. but then when you add another person to it, 'cause like it and I mean sideways with me and you, like, we just go on a tangent. Like it can go

Yeah.

When I when I mean me and you go sideways, I have to ring in what we're talking about. Because we'll go on a it'll turn somewhere. The times we've had people on, though, it goes it can go really dark. And I have to kind of go, okay, how am I gonna wrangle this in? Or like with him, like I didn't have to wrangle him. He he came back to it, but I was like

yeah. Yeah.

About ten or fifteen minutes in, I was like, okay, well, nothing's crazy has been said yet. Like, I don't think he's going to do anything. Yeah. And and neither of you said anything crazy. So for me, that was kind of that made it really interesting for me.

Tina's not losing her mind yet.

Yeah.

But this show for at least again, we've talked about it a lot, over the years now. I think this is I don't even what episode are we on? Or you know that we're no, you know we're getting close to two fifty. Yeah, here I'm gonna

Don't even know.

Holy crap. I didn't know that this would go like even past ten episodes when we first started. I had no idea what this was gonna entail and and what it takes to pull it off. You know, I had no clue. But here we are, like four years later, is it?

Yeah. This'll be two forty four. So like we're close, close. We'll be at two fifty in a couple of months. Yeah.

And that's pretty much five years.

yeah, this show started on September sixteenth of two thousand twenty-one.

Wow. Okay.

Yeah, that was the the first episode that dropped.

Who knew? Who knew? No.

No, no one. I mean, I I I made it I made it a plan because I remember I had told you that most of them don't make it past eleven. And I was like, there's no way we're not gonna make it to eleven. I was like, we have to do like more than the normal because I did so much research on like just podcasts in general and

Yeah.

You know, people there it's a lot.

It is a lot. It's not a lot for me. I I'll be honest. I Rob's referred to me as the talent. I'm embarrassed to say that, but it's true. He's the tech guy. He knows how to do all the stuff. I still don't have the camera on my computer working. I don't know what the hell I did, but Rob's gonna have to fix that too. It's just and and then I made us blue, so now I don't know what the hell I did and it's getting bad. We're all blue now.

So

Ha ha.

Yeah.

It's okay. You're good. here's the here's the thing, though. Like, and I don't mean that it's a lot. I mean, look, I've I've gotten a lot better. And matter of fact, here's the funny thing about this show. because of YouTube, I continue to learn things. So

I didn't tell you. I'm I meant to tell you to listen to last week's show. So I found a way to to get both of our audio feeds and match them so they sound exactly the same. So it if it it it I don't know how the fuck it does it. It's a you know, it's a program. It basically it I

Mm.

put a section out in it of both of them that have audio and I hit this little button and it raises yours or and lowers mine or vice versa to where they're even. So like last week's show I listened to it and it was so nice that I didn't sound low or you didn't sound low. And you generally don't because I fix those type of things. But sometimes I I just can't.

Mm-hmm.

Man, and I was like, wow, that sounds so I'm still learning. I learn all the time about like the program that I use. So, you know, I don't mean it's a lot that ways. Because like here's the thing: the the backside has gotten much smoother and easier because I've learned so much.

And let's just say thank you for learning.

But sometimes like just getting this done because we both have lives. So sometimes it's nice to to you know get ahead. We've got ahead several times on this show and and we plan on it again. Yeah. Well, because here's the thing, we get ahead and then we we we don't continue to record. Yeah.

We get ahead and then we get behind. And then we get ahead and then we get behind.

And then life happens, yeah.

But but look, life does happen and like today, like the show will come out on Wednesday, but it'll be late. It'll probably be at like you know Western time on Pacific Coast time, it'll come out before the end of the night, but on the East Coast it'll come out probably tomorrow morning because I probably won't get it done until nine-ish o'clock.

And that's my fault.

No, it's not. It's no one's fault. Like, let's not look, you had you have life as well. And life yesterday kind of bonked us on the noggin. So, you know, I told you yesterday, don't even worry about it, we'll just skip a week. And you're like, no, no, no, I'll and I was like, Okay. Cause I leave it up to you. Like

Yeah.

The the show is in is important to me, but I understand that, you know, life and family come before everything. So, and and I've told you you know, several times. Like I'm gonna do a podcast alone with my kid one time because you won't have fun. We I wanna do it on anime and and and Japanese stuff, and you would just be bored out of your you know, you'd be bored.

Yeah, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

And and but I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna record it and I'm gonna keep it on the back burner so that one will be a a drop in. but it's an interesting thing, because you know, look, we've had we've had things happen over the last couple of months with other people out there. I mean, at least for me. people thinking.

It's about them or getting in trouble because of certain things or whatever.

It if you're listening to this show to find things out, oof, it you're probably barking up the wrong tree because we talk about so many different people that i y you're not going to be happy because you're going to put the situation you want to into that. And it can get you in a lot of trouble doing that.

thankfully the people that are close to me can ask me about it and I and I like that. But we talk about like I've talked about people, you know, during my divorce time that that would don't even know this show exists. Like literally don't know. So if you're you know, be careful what you wish for because you're gonna get it.

Mm-hmm.

Because in your own head, and and look, I'm really good at that. I'm really good at like hearing something and going, I wonder if that's about me. even though I don't do that anymore. I've I've really found myself doing that. This that's where this show has been very therapeutic for me. I think I've learned a lot from us talking. Like, like, mm-

Yeah.

I'm sure. I think I have too.

You kinda have to step back sometimes and and and realize that I I you know, you you say a lot of good things and and I know you're a person of faith and it's awesome and I I've learned a lot with just you're like look if it's meant to be it's supposed to. You know, and if it's not then it's not and and life goes on. And and it does. And and my f

Yeah. Absolutely.

Right. That it does.

famous fucking thing with that is because it has to. You know, people are in our lives for a reason. They exit our lives for a reason. And their life changes for a reason. Which I think's kinda awesome. You know, like I remember coming out of my divorce and I was pretty

Yeah.

I was pretty down and I thought life was, you know, pretty bad. And I got a call to go to my high school reunion. And, you know, it was pretty wild to think back now, 'cause I didn't want to go to that fucking thing. And you were like, no, go. And I'm like, look, it's not a good time. I'm I'm broke. Yeah.

Come on, Rob, you know you wanna do it. I got the ticket. Let's roll.

Yeah, and you're like, you're going. I already bought a ticket for you. And was like, fuck. all right, I guess I'm going. So really, I mean, coming out of that now looking back on it, you kind of like really held my hand out of that to just go, look, it's you're gonna be okay.

And you are.

A and I mean all in all I'm okay. I don't know if I'm mentally okay, but you know. I I you know, I I

You're mentally fine. You just don't make all the right decisions all the right time. Maybe that's all it is and and that's it. Like just the choice. Who cares? Fuck. If I who on in whose standards? Because I've made some dingers in the last like few years, but if you look at what I'm doing, i were they wrong?

no, I I make some

I I make some pretty bad decisions. I I I put

Was it the wrong thing to do? Was it the you know, you can't you can't say you can't say that.

Exactly.

Well well, because truly you don't know until you know, a decision you make now may not really come to fruition for another two years or more. So I I posted something the other day and you kinda laughed at it and and I and and look, it it's a hundred percent true what I'm about to say, because I that's why I posted it because I thought it was kind of funny. and I don't know how many people, but I guarantee it's true.

Or more. Or more.

it says, I may not be famous, but someone's therapist knows my full name. And

man. I could definitely say I could relate to that.

Yeah, I I and I I'll tell you maybe not my full name, but they know my first name. And they they really know it. And and I'll tell you for sure because Well no but here's the funny part. I when sh I don't th I didn't piss anybody off. She just told her therapist about me. I think that was more than anything. And it wasn't it wasn't like

Yeah. You're not living if you don't piss off somebody like that. Come on now.

he's you know, he's an asshole. It was more probably that, he's a little much. But you know, at the end of the day, I think if your name's in some therapy notes, you mean something to somebody. I and I know that's a w and it I'm not saying good or bad. I'm just saying you mean some you mean something to somebody. So look

Yeah mean something something.

At the end of the day, we me and you, the stories we don't tell, you know, will I hope will hopefully come out, you know, by you know, episode three fifty, you know, somewhere in the next couple of years. But because I think that they're important stories to tell. I I just think that

Other things have to happen for them to come out to where we're we're to where we're all okay with them. And I mean for us, like we need to be okay. We need to be able to say certain things and be okay with it. because like we've come out about like I come out about my marriage, you came out about your daughter, like things that have happened in our lives that are

Yeah.

That are deep. Like these are real things. and real feeling and and look, death. You know, you've talked about your mom. My mom died during the show.

Yeah.

So, you know, people who listen to this and and I think that they know who we are, at least on an under the skin level, just on what we say. and if you keep listening like we're doing now, it it's just going to get more because life is always revolving for us. You know. I

Yeah.

Yeah. Well of course it like for e everybody. I swear though I feel like I have way more deaths in my life than anybody else I know.

You know, you you yeah. I mean y you you kinda do. It but again you also have a I think you also have a big ass family. Yeah. That that will always do it. You know, like my best friend, he's he's Hispanic.

I kinda do.

Big ass family.

Yeah.

And and look, they Hispanics have big families. They I don't you know, I don't I don't I hope that doesn't come off as, you know, utterly racist, but it's true. it I remember growing up around him and him like talking about, this person died or that person died. And you know, and he's been my best friend since I was in I was twelve. So, you know, fifty years.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah.

Or forty years, forty something years. and it's never not happened. Like, you know, he was like this person died, or you know, and his father passed away and his stepdad passed away and all these things where you know life happens and it happens fast. Even the last couple of years with us.

Mm-hmm.

You know, since the beginning of the podcast, really, and before that as well, but really during the the years of this podcast, man, we've seen a lot of stuff happen. And you and you don't realize it in until sometimes you sit back and look back. And I mean the how the world is, how our world is, the relationships in our life, all these different things.

Mm.

our catalyst to who we are and I hope why people listen to this because they're getting bluntness about what's going on, you know.

Mm-hmm.

Your

Your story for me, see, like I I love doing this show with you, teen, because you're for one, I can bounce things off of you and you're utterly truthful. I and look, a lot of people aren't. You know what I mean? Like a lot of us have friends, but we all have we all have friends that are yes people. All of us.

Yeah.

I don't know how to be anything there.

yeah.

and then we all have friends that are no people. We I have a couple of Debbie Downers that no matter what the fuck you say to them, they're like, they will find, you know, the shit stain in the underwear in whatever you're talking about. And but then I have the other friends that are like, yeah, like, you know, she's probably the greatest thing in the whole world. It's like, okay.

Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha.

And then I have people in the middle, and then I have you. Cause I'll tell you, and you'll go, you know, you know, I might not do it, but yeah, give it a try. And I was like, well shit. all right. And there's not enough people who tell you shit like that. You know, you you're you're straight up. You're like, I wouldn't do it, ha, but you should give it a try. And I was like,

Yeah.

Well

Because for me, think about like a a and anyone listening, think about your friend telling you something like that. It's the most oxymoron shit in the world. You're like, Well wait a second, but you wouldn't but you're telling me to

Fuck it, who am I to stop me from having a good time? Like

That's and that's kind of the thing. And and look, you know, without getting too deep into people in my life, even n well, it's been like eight or nine years. You know, there was a girl in my life that I was

having relations with. Let's just say. and i even though I would tell you things, you never were like, Yeah, don't do that anymore. You're like, okay, well, you know, there's repercussions to this.

No.

Yeah. Well you know what's gonna happen, you know. Can you deal with the consequences? That's how it is in life with everything though.

Yeah.

Right. Yeah. Well and and the the end consequences was that person getting married to somebody else. And the the you know the long term consequences. Look, I with all my soarees with with people out there, with women in my life, I I'll tell you now I don't regret a single day with

Sorry.

Hanging out with these people. You know, she was in my life for a reason. And I think I was in her life for a reason as well. You know, I she's probably found a great dude for her. And looking from the outside in now, I I think that I was just very. She's a great woman, but I think we probably long run probably wouldn't have worked. You know, and

sure.

And she's a sweetheart. And I she deserves the world because she went through a lot of shit. She'd be a great she would actually be great to be on this podcast and have us talk about her past. Because her past is like, holy shit. but you know, look, the so bouncing things off of you for me is is the sole reason to to

Mm.

have people listen to this show because you're so honest that that sometimes it's it's funny to listen to. I mean it's I I was listening to a show the other day. I was listening to the show about the numbers of the people we've had sex with right

Try to be.

Yeah.

Yeah. That was the most uncomfortable show 'cause I wasn't giving up numbers.

No, but at the very end, if for people who haven't listened to it, I'll I'll try to find the number right now. It's the end of it is utterly funny. It's 232. It's the body count debate. At the end of the show, teen, the greatest thing ever happens. You go, you know, as you can tell, Rob, I don't give a shit about this. And I was like, I was like, my and and and

Hehehe

It was great because I'm in the car driving to work, hysterically laughing, at a show that I recorded with you that I didn't remember you saying that. Because it was from like it was from March of this year. And I just didn't remember. And I I'm in the car laughing on my way to work. And I go, yeah. and then I heard something else that that I said that I know somebody else listened to and thought it was about them.

Hay

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

And I'm and I'm driving in, I go, man, what a sucker. Like it had that had nothing to do with them. it's unfortunate because it's about somebody else. And they probably have listened to that show and went, yeah, that's about me.

Yeah.

Because I s cause I have it's funny 'cause she'll ask me about things. Like she she'll see the title of a show even today and go, Is that about me? And and sometimes it is. Like the last week's the one that got away and she was like, Is that about me? And I was like I I s sorta like

I don't get questioned, thankfully, on any of the podcasts 'cause nobody that's close to me listens to it, so I don't think they wanna know.

Yeah.

It it was it was funny. Right. And look, w was that show partly about her? Absolutely. Because this is a person that has been in my life recently. but I also had to tell her I go, look.

listen to the show because like we went off on a tangent about like the one that got away is sometimes a thing, like something we didn't do or you know, a a different part of life. It wasn't always necessarily a person that got away. It was the one that got away could have been we missed a trip to Hawaii. And she was like, I said, Yeah. Like, sure. Like, because we all have one that got away. Or

Some of us do. Yeah and so at the end of the day, like today we were like, What do we talk about? And I'm like, let's just bullshit because you're going through stuff with your family and I wanted something that would be very easygoing and just saying crazy shit.

Yeah. Yeah. yeah, so I I guess I I do want to talk about my family for a minute. one of my so when when when I was young my mom worked for her friend's husband's construction company. She did the books and ran the office and this woman and this this woman who had four kids with one of the guys that worked

Sure. Let's do it.

for the company that my mom worked at. she was very good friends with my mom and dad and and so her kids who are younger than me, but not terribly younger, well, they did get much younger. So

Where am I going with that? Anyway, this this woman that was her husband worked with my mom, she got divorced from him and then I introduced her to my uncle and they became a family. They got married and she had four kids, three girls and a boy, and he had two boys and a girl, and they became a family. And so, it was weird because these people that I had known

the kids all their lives, th knowing the moms before the kids were even born, are now my family. So I had I had four cousins that that came into it and and my youngest cousin passed away the other day at the age of thirty six from cancer. And I I did also speak probably a month or two ago about my very first boyfriend passing away from cancer.

And

It's it's been a huge hit because these are these are people that were very close to me in my life. They're people that I loved dearly. They're people that I grew up with and were raised around us and families intert intertwined and he we had to go and and say goodbye to him and he passed away a couple hours after I left. normally I'm one of the people that stays, you know, is

long as I can and and I just couldn't do it. Like it was it literally broke my heart to say goodbye to my cousin because he was so fun and we had such a good time and when when he was little he used to sit in my lap and hold my face and just like he'd look at me like I was the best thing ever and he just loved and adored me and he learned how to cat call like I did while my brother and his

and and and his friends played hockey. He learned the same. Like I couldn't tell whose was whose. We sounded exactly alike. and over the years he he would come to me for advice on things and he he just was a love and he was one of my favorites and

He lost his his battle to cancer. it took less than a year. it went everywhere. It was in his bones, it was in his brain, it was on his lungs, it just went everywhere. And he just had such a great outlook and he had so many friends and he was so positive and I have friends that know him from him working at the pizza shop. I have friends that know him from being, you know, family to us. I I have all these people in my life that know him and

And making the phone calls and telling everybody has just been heart wrenching for me. So the last few days I've I've really been going through it. My my aunt and my cousins are really going through it. My uncle, all of us. My brother my brother didn't have words for it. He he he was really struggling to talk to me and you know, I had to just give him a hug and say, I know and you know, try to let him off the hook for saying what he's saying. So

Right now it's just been a really hard time. So

But I

I feel like the older I get, the closer I am to them because I know I'll be there one day. And it you know, time is relevant and we don't know how long we have on this earth, but but I know because of what I've been through that I'm gonna see them again. But I was kinda jealous when he passed because he gets to be with all the people I miss. And he doesn't get to be here on you know, so this is my second cousin that we used to make fun of the family together. And now he's not here either.

And I'm kinda sad because like there's not gonna be anybody to talk shit with or to joke with or to say things and and I'm just I don't know. We're just really feeling the loss, so

You're gonna be like, what the who's gonna who's gonna rag on the rest of the family?

my god. Yeah. And and you know what? We need we just need a couple of those people in the family and I I'm kinda missing my two favorite ones. So it's been a kind of a rough few days and the families, like I said, they're going through it, we're all trying to be supportive and the weird thing was my dad used to st carve stone and when people that he had given pieces to or they had bought

the stone pieces that he had carved, the family would give them back to my dad after the person would pass. And I used to think, my God, like he's gonna have all these pieces from all these people that pass. What do you do with them? You can't sell them, you can't give them like what do you do with it, right? Well, today I had to experience that again 'cause my cousin sent me a picture of the basket that I had made my younger cousin for his sobriety birthday.

And she said, I'll make sure you get this back and there's a part of me that doesn't want it back, but then there's a part of me that does, you know, like maybe I'll make a shadow box or something, but I don't know. It just feels everything just feels really raw right now and hard and and so yeah, thank you for just doing my cat is trying to sit on my my microphone right now.

But yeah, just so thank you for making it an easy podcast where we could just talk about people that think that you're talking about them when you know what all you guys should know is we're talking about all of you.

Right. I I I'm gl I'm glad you did that w in a in a in a nice low voice too. That sounded that sounded so mysterious and mean.

Right? It is it it's meant to be mean. Like get over it. If if we're talking about something on this show and you don't like it, maybe you should make better decisions because we're gonna use things from our lives to talk about on the show. And if if it's if it happens to fall in your lap that you're doing the wrong thing, I'm like, I tr I don't know what to tell you. Too bad we too bad we know about it, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

Right, yeah. That's kind of true. Sorry, but you know, you Yeah. Yeah, you you kinda did it to yourself. Yeah. I I think in in a lot of cases. Yeah, I mean look, you y at the end of the day, thanks for the material. You know what I mean? Like but

Sorry, not sorry. This is life and we're talking. Deal with it. We're not trying to hurt anybody. We're not judging anybody. Yeah. But don't s don't set us up.

With that comes us. You know, like if we're talking about you or if we're talking about a situation, realize that it also either has or is affecting us.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, it life is a roller coaster.

And last I checked we didn't need anybody's consent.

No, well that's why we don't say any names. You know, it keeps us it keeps us legal, which is the best part. But also look, I I don't wanna I don't wanna bring people's shit into this, but I also need it sometimes what happens to our friends and family help other people.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

And and I know that that you know s people don't like to hear that, but people have listened to this show that are friends of mine that have told me like, I'm really glad you guys talked about this. I was like, well that's that's that's nice. Like I I didn't realize, you know, that that

that it happened like that. So, you know, I'm glad that that we can open up people's minds sometimes. It's I think it's necessary. And vice versa. I'm glad that sometimes people say things to me and it opens up my mind and I get to think because I've I've changed my mind or thought differently about stuff because of this.

Mm-hmm.

You know, or hearing certain things. Like there's shows there's early shows if people go back that were a man that were a a bit much for me and and made me think differently about you know being a dude or how how you need to do things or how you talk to people. So it's it's definitely it's important and look we

Yeah.

At the end of the day, this is all I'll say since you know we'll we'll roll this and wind it up. If you think it's about you, it probably is. And try not to be too upset because you're you're either helping somebody or you're telling a story without having your name dragged through the mud.

I'll say I never learned anything as well as I did when I messed it all up. So if we're if we're talking about you or we're talking about a situation that isn't favorable right now, I guarantee you're learning a lot from it. And you know, we're all human, that's what we're here for.

That's a great way of putting it. That's a perfect way to end this, because that's a hundred percent true. hey, I've been trying to be better about the social medias. I'm gonna really kind of kick it in the gear now that summer's coming. so you'll be getting more information about the show probably a couple times a week. you can listen to us on everywhere.

Mm-hmm. Well, thank ya.

But you know, thankfully Spotify and Apple are the lead ways to listen to this show. And you guys are doing it for us. We've had some really great months. Thank you so much. and look, it's an opinion show. Don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. I'm Rob. That's Tina. And we'll talk to you in week. Bye.

See ya.