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Episode 1001st March 2024 • Orange Hatter • Tali Lindberg
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Celebrating the 100th Episode of Orange Hatter and Envisioning Future Bitcoin Initiatives

The episode, marking the 100th episode of the Orange Hatter podcast, revisits interviews and shares stories of various Bitcoin women around the world. The women come from diverse contexts and experiences, yet all share the common goal of safeguarding their hard-earned money through Bitcoin. Aspects of their personal lives and backgrounds are shared, providing insights into the struggles faced in different countries and the impacts of inflation on their lives. Tali also introduces other Orange Hatter initiatives, including the Orange Hatter Women's Retreat, a Mastermind group, a weekly reading group, and an intention experiment, aimed at creating synergy and building networks for Bitcoin women. Tali also shares a special coupon for the upcoming Bitcoin Magazine's Nashville conference in July 2024.

00:00 Introduction: Empowering Women through Bitcoin

00:21 The Journey of Orange Hatter: From Inception to 100th Episode

01:12 Bitcoin: A Tool for Everyone

02:55 Bitcoin Stories from Around the World

04:21 Bitcoin: A Solution for Financial Struggles

04:27 Exciting Announcements and Favorite Clips

04:50 The First Episode of Orange Hatter Podcast

05:06 Bitcoin Stories: From Italy to Tanzania

12:02 Bitcoin Stories: From Belgium to Japan

13:15 Bitcoin Stories: From the US to the World

18:44 The Orange Hatter Women's Retreat

20:55 Bitcoin Stories: From the US to the World (Part 2)

32:01 The Orange Hatter Mastermind Group

34:28 Bitcoin Stories: Immigrants to the US

35:23 Understanding Money and Corruption: A Personal Journey

35:46 A Venezuelan Perspective on Inflation and Bitcoin

37:30 Aida's Story: The Cuban Economy and the Power of Bitcoin

41:26 Liv's Story: From Germany to Bitcoin

43:30 Empowering Women in the Bitcoin Community

46:54 Toshi's Story: The Nigerian Currency Crisis

51:58 Carri's Story: From Gold Bug to Bitcoin Believer

56:36 The Orange Hatter Intention Experiment

59:49 Mary Lou's Story: From Poverty to Bitcoin

01:04:43 Celebrating the 100th Episode of Orange Hatter


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My absolute hope is that more women, more women, more women, more

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women find their way to Bitcoin.

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Especially the moms because they

will influence the next generation.

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And can change history..

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome to orange Hatter.

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Can you believe this is already

the 100th episode of orange Hatter?

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I am absolutely blown away.

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It has been such a tremendous journey.

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It started with a one very simple desire

I had, which was to make friends with

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more Bitcoiner women in the space.

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And by sharing their story

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I hoped to entice more women who are

precoiners, who are still sitting on

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the fence about Bitcoin to hopefully

identify themselves in, these Bitcoin

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women's stories and come a little closer

to the rabbit hole and check it out.

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With that a goal in mind.

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I want it to talk to as many

everyday women as possible.

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I wanted to present Bitcoin as something

that is a use for everybody, your

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sister, your mom, your daughter, somebody

you can stand in line at the grocery

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store with, , somebody standing next

to you or the post office, sitting

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next to you at the doctor's office.

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Every day women, because

Bitcoin is for everyone.

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It's not just for the famous,

it's not just for the rich, it's

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not just for the influencers.

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It's for everyone.

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There is a use case for everyone and.

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Yes, it can be used by refugees

escaping political oppression.

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Or women who are escaping

abusive relationships.

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But most importantly, I want to everyday

women who are living paycheck to paycheck

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and accepting our monetary system as an

inevitable reality having no way out.

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And just being victims to the

inflationary environment that is

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just running rampant right now.

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And I know a lot of parents are

very worried for their children.

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For the first time in human

history people are talking about

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expecting their children's future

to be less bright than their own.

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Throughout human history, generations

of parents have placed hope and even

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expectancy that their children's

future will be better than theirs,

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but for the first time it is not so.

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Everybody sees the problem we're

experiencing, but not everybody

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knows the solution to it.

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So with orange hotter, my goal is

to reach as many everyday women as

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possible with everyday women's stories.

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Through this project, I have

met just amazing people.

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I went back and.

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Revisit it, the episodes

that I have done so far.

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And I counted up the number of

countries in which my guests

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have had life experiences in.

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Not just travel through, but lived there.

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I counted over 30 countries.

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They cover all the continents

except for Antarctica.

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Are there any Bitcoiners in Antartica if

you know of anyone, please let me know.

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I would love to interview them.

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, . I've spoken to people.

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Who are in their late teens.

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All the way up.

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To people who are getting

ready for retirement.

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Throughout that age range, then you have

people from all different backgrounds.

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I interviewed Mary Lou who grew

up below the poverty line.

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And I talked to people like Andy,

who is a venture capitalist.

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So everybody in between.

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. We all have our own personal life story.

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We all have our own personal reason

why we're looking for an alternative to

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the currency that we are using today,

Whether you're in the us and using

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the us dollar, which comparatively

is still relatively stable or in

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a country where your national

currency is devaluing very quickly.

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For our own reasons, we have

found our solution in Bitcoin.

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All right.

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So for the rest of the episode, what I'm

going to do is switch back and forth

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between making exciting announcements

about new Orange Hatter initiatives and

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playing some of my favorite clips from

the women I have interviewed so far.

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Make sure you stick around,

listen to the very, very end.

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I have a special offer for you.

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That you don't want to miss.

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So here we go.

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To kick us off here is the very first.

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Intro to the very first.

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episode for the orange Hatter podcast.

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And my very first orange

Hatter guest Laura.

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Hi, everyone.

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Welcome to the first

episode of Orange Hatter.

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I'm so excited to launch this project

to share stories and conversations

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with women in the hopes that I can

help you get interested and curious

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about this thing called Bitcoin.

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My very first guest is Laura from Italy.

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Laura: Okay.

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Hello everybody.

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Chao.

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I and from, from the salute, you

can understand it, and I'm Italian.

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I'm speaking for Milano.

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Maybe one of, of the two most

important cities in Italy.

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And, , I, the first time I heard,

, about Bitcoin, it was, , during, , the

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Covid Lockdowns because we have, , we

had in Italy, , a lot of problems

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also in my town is in the north

of Italy that had, , that lots of

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problem that worldwide, , are known.

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I'm a normal person.

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I have a normal job.

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So I have no money to invest and

Bitcoin was not one of my target.

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the first things it was to recognize

that I was completely financial

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illiteracy illiterate completely.

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I didn't know anything about money,

about, uh, financial, about economics.

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I was so, so ignorant about, uh, this

topic, but I I work, uh, with, um,

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with a nice job in a commercial office.

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And, my income is, , 1,200 Euros.

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And I have to pay a lot for, for rent

for the house, a lot for groceries,

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a lot for, uh, energy bills.

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So I have, I, I, I remain with maybe

100 euros in, uh, in the pocket.

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That, that I can do all my, all my,

uh, I have to do everything with this.

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really understand why

I am so poor in my 50.

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Uh, 54 years.

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I work from 30 years and I don't have

money, uh, as a store of value, and

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now I understand why, why I don't have.

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Everything has changed because

first off I saw, uh, a light,

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uh, we used to say in Italy.

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I dunno if, if it is

the same in the States.

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I saw a light at the end of the tunnel.

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I understand that Bitcoin

is a freedom tool.

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Tali: If you want to listen to

Laura story, please go back to

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the beginning of the episode

history and start with episode one.

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She talks about her personal financial

experience with such honesty . Laura's

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super passionate and working with local

merchants in Milan to try to create

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something similar to Bitcoin beach.

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She's such an amazing

person to get to know.

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The next present I want

to highlight is Nancy.

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Nancy is probably halve Laura's age.

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Her life is just beginning.

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She's a young woman.

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In Tanzania, she has a toddler.

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She's just starting.

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Her journey as an adult and.

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She's really quite ahead of her time.

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Even as a young adult, working

with her husband, very deliberately

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to look for ways to safeguard

the value of their savings.

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I want to highlight her background.

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And then just a quick story

about how she found Bitcoin.

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Nancy: My parents worked in Botswana and

then Zimbabwe, and then we moved to Papua

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New Guinea in the South Pacific for

most of my childhood, and then moved to

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Tanzania when I was a , 16, did two years

of high school here and then went to Cape

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Town, South Africa, then moved back here

to Dar es Salaam, where I currently am.

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I'm married to Don and that is

how I got to know about Bitcoin.

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When we met, to be as frank as

possible, we were both terrible

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with with, um, with our finances.

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We didn't have any savings.

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When we started dating, we, we thought it

would be nice to kind of put some money

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into a joint pot to spend on our dates.

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In Tanzania, they have mobile money.

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So your phone, you can send money to

your phone and store it on your phone.

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And so we started just by doing that.

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And then the pot grew and

it, it reached the limit.

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of what could be stored on mobile money.

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So we opened up a bank account and then

We had to open up several other bank

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accounts, It was a lot of bank fees.

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I would get a salary to my bank account,

And then there would be a bank fee

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to send some to my phone, and then

there'd be a a mobile money fee each

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time I tried to use it from my phone.

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it was costing me money to have money

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I think where Don really started seeking

was we were living month to month,

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and it was really frustrating because

we both had full time jobs, we were both

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working at international schools, but

for some reason it just felt like we

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couldn't save anything, like nothing,

nothing we do made, nothing we did made

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a difference, and at the same time we

had, Our parents who have properties and.

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In their time, they were able to buy

properties with like one month salary,

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which now is worth so much more.

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The expectation was you get

married, get a job, buy some

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land and start building a house.

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But it was impossible.

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We, we couldn't do it.

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my dad bought land Good land when

he just got out of university.

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He just finished his PhD and he bought

it for 700 shillings That same, plot

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of land would probably go for like

upwards from 200 million shillings now.

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And so Don was feeling really

frustrated , with that whole situation.

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So I said, Find us a way find us a

place where we can we can put our

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money that's safe that you know

where we can stand a chance to to

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start to save and he found Bitcoin.

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Tali: So as you can see.

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Nancy and Laura.

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Two very different women,

different age group.

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Literally from different continents,

different life background.

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Coming to Bitcoin with a common goal

of somehow safeguarding the money that

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they earned through their hard work.

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I've also interviewed,

as I mentioned before.

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Many women from different

cultural backgrounds.

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I'm going to highlight

a few of the women here.

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They are from.

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Different continents, sauna living

in Belgium, but from India marina,

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she's living in New York, but grew

up in the global south Terico in

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Thailand, but grew up in Japan.

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And of course our own American women.

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Let's take a listen.

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Sanjna: I'm based in Belgium.

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I've lived here my whole life.

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my husband He is from the U.S.,

I'm from Europe, but we're

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both originally from India.

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Marina: I was born in the US,

um, half Mexican, half American.

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I lived in the US, until I was five.

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And then I grew up in South America,

Mexico, Bolivia, Columbia, and

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came back to the US for college.

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So I'm American, grew up in Latin America,

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Teruko: I was born and raised in Japan

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I was interested in the world outside of

Japan, so as soon as I entered college

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I started traveling around the world.

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, So far, I've probably visited

more than 70 countries.

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but I stopped counting after 50

countries, so I don't know exactly.

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Lindsay: I

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Am 29.

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I live in Midland,

Michigan, a fairly rural area.

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I was a paramedic

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Tali: Through orange Hatter, I've met some just really fascinating women.

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And one of my favorite guests

on the show was Gillian.

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She.

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Has taken so many pivot points.

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In her life that she

went from studying film.

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To be one of the early adopters of the

internet working as tech support and

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finally through several more pivots.

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And an above being a

Buddhist psychoanalyst.

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Fascinating story.

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Let's take a listen.

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Gillian: Many, many years ago, 55

years ago, I was born in Malaysia.

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I was raised there till I, till I

was 13 and my parents sent me , to

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Singapore to study because they

have a better educational system.

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I went to college in the States

because I wanted to study film.

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I did my master's in East Asian languages

and cultures , went to live in Japan

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for a year and then went to Thailand

and subsequently to the States, to

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Spain, and then came back to Japan.

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Tali: Isn't that fascinating.

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And that's just the first

half of Gillian's life.

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Since that point, she transitioned

into studying yoga and Rolfing.

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And then subsequently went

into cranial sacral therapy.

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And finally to Buddhism studies.

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Um, I'll let her tell her story.

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Gillian: I was doing craniosacral

therapy that was put together by

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someone called Franklin Sills, and

he was visiting from England in to

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Boulder to teach a cranial course.

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And the wife was coming so I only knew

her as the wife Franklin's wife, and she

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was going to teach a three day workshop

called coalescence of compassion.

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I was really attracted to these

words, coalescence of compassion.

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So I did do the workshop three days.

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I sat there just crying.

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It wasn't sobbing was I was seated

there present and tears just

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rolled down and I understood it as.

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a resonance, a strong resonance when you

hear truth that you don't hear normally.

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And you see this person in there

in front of you and you can

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see something you never saw.

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It's a kind of presence.

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It moved me so much.

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So I thought, I want to

study with this person.

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And the only thing she was doing

was a master's in psychotherapy,

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in Buddhist psychotherapy.

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And I'm like, Psychotherapy?

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No!

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I don't want to study psychotherapy.

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And then one or two weeks

later, I thought, Oh, if

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Maura, her name is Maura Sills.

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If Maura is going to teach

a singing class, I would go.

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So why wouldn't I go for

psychotherapy or whatever it is?

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So I said, okay, I'll go.

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I decided I applied and I went.

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And this course was in England, in Devon.

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So another , two years plus

another year of practice.

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I was trying to free myself and help

people free themselves , through

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therapy, but we will never

be free without a free money.

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And I was like this white elephant in

the room was missing in all this therapy

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and alignment stuff I'm trying to do.

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We need to align with money.

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And so that was actually for me, the last

piece coming together, although probably

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money is the first piece of many people,

but it's like it had to come last for me.

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And like, this is it.

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This is the final

alignment needs to be made.

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We cannot right the

Buddha was able to do it.

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But how many people can be Buddha

He had to go through all he lived

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in a time of manipulated money.

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Even though he had it, but it's still

he was worried about concerned about

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other people, and he was looking for

a way within right to find happiness

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and peace and equanimity in that world.

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And he found it right and he

taught us he gave us the teachings.

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But imagine if we didn't, if

that money part was taken care

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of, I gave a presentation , on

Bitcoin and spirituality.

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I took the teaching, The Four Noble

Truths, the of Buddha's teaching,

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where the fourth truth is the Eightfold

Path, the Noble Eightfold Path.

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And if you look at all the Noble

Eightfold Path, Bitcoin, or sound

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money like Bitcoin, can help you really

more easily achieve, Five of them.

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So for me, telling people about

Bitcoin, helping people understand,

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helping people use it self custody.

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That's my thing.

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, Tali: I've heard a lot

of different people.

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Share the idea that they

believe Bitcoin is a godsend.

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But I've never looked at it through

the lens of Buddhism before.

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So I have found Gillan's,

discussion absolutely fascinating.

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If you'd like to hear the rest

of it, make sure you go to

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orange hotter podcast episode 85.

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Through the many conversations that

I've had with orange Henry guests.

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I came up with an idea.

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That.

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All of these fascinating women

spread all around the world.

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Wouldn't it be amazing if we can get

everybody in the same place in the same

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room, under the same roof, going through

the same experiences and being able to

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feel absolutely free to speak our mind

because we each understand and agree

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on fundamental views about the world.

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And so.

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I dreamed up this idea of doing

an orange Hatter women's retreat.

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Started spreading the word and

asking people for locations and

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came across Amanda, who is part

of the Bitcoin Yucatan project.

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In Merida, Mexico.

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And we just absolutely hit it off.

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We literally.

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See.

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The world through basically

the same lens and long story

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short, we created the Yucatan.

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Orange Hatter women's retreat,

which will be taking place

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March 16th through the 20th.

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, in 2024.

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And, um, since then, even as I talk to

more and more women who are in different,

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beautiful locations of the world, The

idea is that we will eventually have a

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orange hotter women's retreat on every

single continent to make it really

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easy for Bitcoiner women to gather.

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And to share and elevate their energy.

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So that we can do what we believe so

deeply about, which is to spread the

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coin to every corner of the earth.

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So, if you've not heard about

the retreat before our retreat

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is now closed for March.

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So keep an eye out for future retreats.

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They will take place in Yucatan

or elsewhere, I am talking to

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several different women about

different locations right now.

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And make sure you add your

name to our email list.

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Go to www.orangehatter.com and you'll find

under the tab labeled Retreat, Yucatan.

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And then also other locations.

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You can enter your email address

there and we'll keep you posted.

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And now let's keep going.

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I'm having so much fun.

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Listening back to all of

these women's interviews.

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I want to introduce of couple more

women they're American with different

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backgrounds, let's take a listen.

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Jacqui: I'm a single mom,

and my daughter's 26 now.

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And I learned about blockchain and

Bitcoin about five or six years ago.

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My background's law, I didn't

know a lot about finance.

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I wasn't interested in finance

until I kind of, you know, learned

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about Bitcoin and, and this area.

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Sarah: I have three adorable

children, and they're all under

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seven, so seven, five, and one.

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So we're just starting the

elementary school craziness and

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afterschool activities and meal

planning, house management, all

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sorts of fun stuff like that.

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Ella: Generation Bitcoin, which is a

group of Gen Z Bitcoiners who are really

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on a mission to try and bring Bitcoin

education to Gen Z and really inspire

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them to be a part of the Bitcoin space and

grow it and innovate in it because they

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will inherit Bitcoin, , moving forward.

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I am very lucky to now

be a part of the group.

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I am in charge of projects.

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One project that we are just starting

is called the Bitcoin University Guide.

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It's important for students to

feel encouraged to embrace Bitcoin,

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where their world is changing a

lot, but Bitcoin is kind of hope

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and that Bitcoin is for everyone.

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So this is really where the

Bitcoin University Guide comes in.

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Tali: Let's hear a little bit

more from , our American women.

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First one is Sarah.

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You heard from her just a little bit ago.

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She has three young children

all under the age of seven.

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Also Lindsay.

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A very interesting first

encounter with Bitcoin.

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And Mel who came into the

Bitcoin space through antiques.

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Let's take a listen.

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Sarah: My husband is a musician,

and as you can imagine, the Covid

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pandemic shutdowns did not do

very well for musicians and public

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performance, the arts in general.

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So we were in a very scary situation

where in the blink of an eye, our

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projected income for the year went to zero

because every gig fell off his calendar.

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There was just a lot

of fear, but also time.

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And he started looking into

Bitcoin specifically as this

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new technology in finance.

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He started researching Bitcoin.

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A lot of people are like, why

not just stay with money?

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It's working okay.

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Why not just stay with money?

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I don't feel the need, like, or

when I say money, why not stay

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with dollars, like, credit cards?

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Why not, you know, whatever.

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And I'm like, well, there

is something better.

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There truly is something better.

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And we know how to appreciate

tools for their purpose and,

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and even antiquated tools Like a

phonograph, like an Edison phonograph.

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Victrolas.

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Like we have victrolas, but

there's also things that just

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work better with new technology.

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And I think that's something that's

really exciting to think about is

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like, this is, or maybe even just

like a vocabulary to put Bitcoin in

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is like, this is just a new technology.

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It's just a, a new way to think

of and use currency that is more

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secure, holds its value and is really

going to be even more scalable.

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Tali: Sarah talks about how she's

planning to use Bitcoin in her

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life, which is really for college

planning for her three young children.

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Instead of investing her money

in a 529 college savings fund..

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She decided that it would actually make

more economic sense to save for her

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children's college in Bitcoin, if you

know someone who has young children and

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are wondering if Bitcoin is something

that would be applicable to them.

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Please direct them to Sarah's episode.

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Her episode actually was divided

into several smaller parts.

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This is in the early days of my podcast.

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Sarah's episodes run from 47 to 51.

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check it out and share with your friends.

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Next let's listen from Lindsey.

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She is a neonatal intensive care nurse.

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And has a fascinating story about how

she first came across a Bitcoiner.

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Lindsay: I found myself on a first date

with a guy who was a Bitcoiner and I

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met the guy for dinner and we were just

getting to know each other, talking

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about our lives, our backgrounds.

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You know what we were doing in Nashville.

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I live in Nashville, Tennessee.

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And it comes out that this guy is

preparing to buy a house and actually as

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of that day, had like seen a house and

put an offer on it, but he was waiting

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to hear if his offer was going to be

accepted because the offer was in Bitcoin.

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Tali: Next we'll hear from

Mel and antique reseller.

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Mel: My husband is a comic booking

card collector from childhood on and

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we were gonna buy our first house and

I saw this eBay, I kept hearing about

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eBay and I said, why don't we try

selling some of this stuff on eBay and

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maybe we can raise some house money.

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Well, that was it.

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I was hooked.

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And I, I couldn't even

buy a digital camera.

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It was so expensive to buy one.

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I bought a scanner.

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I would lay things on it.

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I would put a blanket on top.

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I'm a completely clueless financially.

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I have no nothing., we

grew up with nothing.

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We didn't, know anything about the stock

market, know anything about anything,

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we're not taught that in school.

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The only thing my mom taught me, which

really annoyed about, to this day,

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money's only good for the things that buy.

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there's been two things in my life that

I could see straight down the line.

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One was selling online.

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I could see it straight down the line.

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20, 25 years, everything was gonna

be online, and Bitcoin is only is

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the second thing in my entire life

that I've ever felt like that 20,

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25 years straight down the line.

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Tali: Here's another American woman

that I interviewed with an interesting

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perspective on Bitcoin and how it

changed her outlook for the career

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that she has chosen, that she was so

originally motivated by, but now seeing

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it completely through different lens.

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Let's take a listen to Aimee story.

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Aimee: my dad, he owned several

businesses, he was a general contractor,

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and I feel like he always was feeling

like the state and the federal

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government were just putting too

much on him as a, an employer and

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taking too much of what he was earning

and he was always resentful of that.

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And he would also say things like you

really don't own your house because

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if you don't pay your property taxes,

the government can take it from you.

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, so he was always railing

against the system in that way.

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And then my ex husband was, a

huge, , pro medical marijuana,

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anti state kind of person.

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And so, I think that I had, a lot

of, Freedom inclinations from those

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two influences and then during COVID,

I guess that's really when the light

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for me, uh, because as my background,

I said, was in science, my doctorate's

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in microbiology and molecular genetics.

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And when I saw the response to COVID,

it didn't make any sense to me.

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And then, as soon as the

government was like, we're going

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to shut down for two weeks.

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I'm like, it is not going to be two weeks.

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This is like, a lot of the

freedom grabs they did after 9 11.

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I remember noticing that back then,

all the freedoms we were losing.

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And, I've been practically resentful

of going through TSA every time

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I have since, which has been many

and thinking it's ridiculous we're

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still doing some of these things.

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And Vermont was extremely,

extremely, compliant.

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I felt so alone because I was the only

one looking around saying, this is insane.

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This is not how you should react

and deal with a respiratory virus.

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Everybody's eventually going to

get this no matter how much we lock

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down and how long we lock down.

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It's a respiratory virus.

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and, you know, because it was this

small thing that people couldn't see

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:

it was just so fear driven and it was

the same thing with 9 11 after 9 11

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the whole fear narrative around, um,

terrorism, and it was just used to

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take people's freedoms away and, and

our government, I feel, I felt ever

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increasingly since then is, it's just

become like a cancer on our country.

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Our government has gone further

and further away from the values

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that this country was founded on.

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I work in higher education and access

to higher education is very important

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to me, but I realize with our fiat

currency and our debt, I mean, things are

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so broken and, with The vast majority

of people that have gotten poorer and

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poorer versus the 1 percent of the 0.

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1 percent that have gotten richer and

richer, this chasm can't be, , fixed at

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this point with anything, but Bitcoin.

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And until, things come back into balance

with people tending toward Bitcoin as

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a sound money and as a base layer to a

new financial system, the folks that I

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work with, I don't think that they're

just going to be able to change their

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lives by attaining a college degree.

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I think that, they're working within

a system that's so broken that that

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system needs to be fixed first.

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. But, , I feel like I got one foot out

of the higher education world because

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it's kind of like burst the bubble.

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It's made me feel like my job won't

make a difference because fundraising

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to make college more accessible

doesn't matter when the fiat system

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has screwed things up so badly.

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, working in philanthropy, the other

realization I've had is that the

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people that are in a position to

make large philanthropic gifts

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have benefited, they've been on the

benefiting end of the fiat system.

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And to me, it's so appalling

now to realize that,

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now they're giving that money back to

the other people that they essentially

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stole it from whether they were, they

weren't like wittingly doing that, but

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they, but that is essentially the reality.

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And now they're giving it back

to them with conditions and it

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just has made me lose so much.

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So much of the inspiration of what

originally drove me and my work

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and in fundraising in higher ed

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Tali: You can listen to the

rest of Aimee interview on.

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Episode 78.

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After talking to so many women who

are Bitcoiners, there's one common

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theme that comes up over and over

again, which is everyone would rather.

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Not be working in the fiat at world.

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:

But to be working in the Bitcoin space.

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That has inspired me to start a

Orange Hatter Mastermind group.

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And what that is is a group of us.

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We're all entrepreneurs.

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Bitcoin women.

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Developing our business.

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So that we can.

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Live breathe, work in the Bitcoin space.

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:

It can feel very lonely.

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Which is why earlier in the episode,

I talked about gathering Bitcoin or

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:

women together for our retreat, but

that is only a short time out of a year.

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And so this mastermind group I created,

we meet weekly and we come together

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and we support each other consistently.

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And with Face Time and with sharing

with cross promoting with listening

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year when we need some encouragement

with ideas when we need some advice.

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:

, we . Are working together.

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Creating synergy to make

our business successful.

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The group started in January this year.

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And.

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It is a one-year commitment.

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I am going to open up another

group in June of this year.

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And we will meet in the middle of the day.

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:

Right now, the group that I

have is meeting in the evenings.

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:

Which hasn't worked for all

the different time zones.

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So the one that is launching in June

will be in the middle of the day

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:

In the Eastern standard time zone.

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:

, so that hopefully will make

it easier for people who are.

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:

, in Europe.

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:

Outside the U.S.

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Time zones.

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If you are interested, go

to www.orangehatter.com.

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And under the tab that

is labeled get involved.

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Look for mastermind and there, you can

put your name on the waitlist so that

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:

when the mastermind group opens for June.

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You'll get a notification and you can

send me your application to get involved.

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:

Again, that's

www.orangehatter.com/mastermind, or you

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:

can just go to the main website and go to.

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:

the dropdown menu, get involved

and scroll down to mastermind.

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:

Okay.

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:

So, so far we've heard from people who

live outside of the U S we've heard

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from people who are from the U S.

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And now I want to introduce you to a

few women who are immigrants to the

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U S so they have a unique perspective

comparing what's happening here.

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And what's happening in

their parents' country.

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First up is Sophie.

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She is a Venezuelan American.

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Let's take a listen.

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Sophi: My parents came to this country in

the eighties when the United States was

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at the peak of its economic performance,

even today, they're very much in denial

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that the dollar could collapse or that

the government is corrupt because they've

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seen it in such an extreme version in

Venezuela in their country that they

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cannot fathom that it would happen here.

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Even though, people are people

and people make mistakes , and

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nobody is immune to sin, you know.

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and power corrupts, everybody.

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I'm gonna be honest with you, I just

never thought about money, because I

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mean, except for like, in the way

that most people would think about it.

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Do we have it?

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Do we not?

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Are we gonna live the next day?

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:

But I never really thought

about where money came from.

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Even as the inflation crisis was

hitting Venezuela, I just didn't

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understand what that actually meant.

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In my mind, I was like, well, an evil

dictator has taken over the country, so

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of course the economy is gonna do badly.

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:

But I didn't understand

the bridge between A and B.

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I didn't understand what it was that

the government was doing and what

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nationalization was doing to our

country to make the currency inflate.

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And basically corruption

devalue our currency.

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:

So I never really thought about

it from that point of view until

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I understood what Bitcoin was.

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:

And when I understood Bitcoin, I

started going back to my upbringing.

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I started, I started

understanding, wow, okay.

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:

So they started printing more money

to pay off more people to, 'cause it

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:

was a corrupt government and the more

people they paid off, the more dollars

582

:

they stole from other reserves because

the, the ... was backed by the dollar.

583

:

And then, when they ran out of dollars,

they had to print more money so that the

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dollars would be worth more ... then I

understood, wow, they're doing something

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:

very similar in the United States.

586

:

How could that be?

587

:

We don't have a corrupt government

or, so I thought, and then that,

588

:

that all started making sense.

589

:

But at first my upbringing didn't really

clue me in to any of this stuff because

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I was just, I was living in a bubble.

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:

I didn't know what was going on,

and I was very, I just didn't know.

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:

Tali: Check out Sophie's episodes.

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:

60-62.

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:

Next up - Aida.

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:

She is a Cuban American.

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:

Let's hear her story.

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:

Aida: I am from Cuba, so I had a

little bit of background or of how

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:

hard is to not have an economy or not.

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:

You don't even think about it because.

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:

It's so, the situation is so bad that

at some point you don't even care

601

:

about that anymore because there is

like no crisis, no temporary crisis.

602

:

It's a complete, the full year

crisis that you have in your country.

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:

Your money is not valuable at all.

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:

Your lives becomes just to worry about the

food that you're going to put on the table

605

:

that day because you cannot plan ahead.

606

:

You cannot plan for retirement.

607

:

Like in this country, people think

about they have their retirement plans

608

:

and they have all that thinking on the

future and then they move to Florida.

609

:

That's the stereotypical, right?

610

:

That people move to Florida and

have a beautiful retirement there.

611

:

You, you don't think about that in Cuba.

612

:

People, what they do there, first of

all, the lucky ones that have a little

613

:

bit of money to save is the struggle,

how to save it because our country have

614

:

changed the currency multiple times.

615

:

The currency is totally devalued, so

we don't even, we don't even appear

616

:

on the inflation charts anymore.

617

:

Every time people talk about inflation,

how inflation grows and everything, they

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:

mention Venezuela, they mention Argentina.

619

:

Cuba is not in the charts!

620

:

Because we are so done, we don't

even are part of those charts.

621

:

So it's really hard for the people there.

622

:

People also use like gold, like buy

jewelry sometimes to have the savings and

623

:

they save in dollars, which is what most

of the Latin American countries do, right?

624

:

And that's the way that they make savings.

625

:

But for example.

626

:

We, my, my family, for example, they had

some savings once and in one currency,

627

:

which is, which was not the dollar was

another of our currencies in our country.

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:

We, we had two.

629

:

And then the government decided to switch.

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:

So their wealth diminished, right?

631

:

They lost a lot of money, and now they

changed the currency again, and they lost

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:

again, and it is constantly like that.

633

:

It is, it is like that.

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:

And for example, right now my

parents, they don't, they don't

635

:

have a retirement right now.

636

:

So they work so hard, they work for,

for their family, to provide for their

637

:

family, to build something for their

future, to have something, and there is

638

:

no value of what they have right now.

639

:

And it's, it's a really,

really, really hard.

640

:

And that's one of the things that makes

me think on Bitcoin, because I want

641

:

to kind of have a something that helps

me in the future to not struggle that

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:

way, like they do it in in our country.

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:

And like I said, sometimes

to people here is in the US,

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:

people see it as an investment.

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:

In our countries could be is something

that will save us or will give us freedom

646

:

from our government because having a

money that nobody can print more, that

647

:

nobody can change it for something

else suddenly, or take it from you

648

:

and freeze your accounts in the bank.

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:

Having the government

hands out of your money.

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:

That's awesome.

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:

Tali: Check out Aida's

interview episodes 63 to 66.

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:

Next up we have Liv, who

is a German American.

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Liv: I'm originally from Germany,

where I've studied psychology.

654

:

And I've moved one and a half

years ago to America because my

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:

husband is originally from here.

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:

We actually met in New Zealand while

traveling, and then we decided to stay

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:

together, and we lived for two years

together in Germany while I finished

658

:

my master's there, and then we moved

around one and a half years ago here

659

:

to, to America, and While we were in

Germany and COVID hit and all those

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:

restrictions were a thing and the

world was a little bit upside down.

661

:

My husband was talking

about Bitcoin all the time.

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:

I was a little bit annoyed at that time.

663

:

I have to admit, because he was talking

in the morning, in the evening about it.

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:

And he was just.

665

:

nonstop talking about it.

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:

And I was like, okay, is

it about Bitcoin again?

667

:

I, I was a bit.

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:

Interested in a certain way, but

also annoyed at the beginning, but

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then yeah we did a lot of hikes.

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:

You couldn't really do a lot during

COVID, so it's really nice in Germany.

671

:

You just leave the village and you

just go for a hike wherever you are.

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:

And we talked a lot and he explained

Bitcoin constantly on a deep level.

673

:

And then A lot Bitcoineries in

Michigan, also the South Bend,

674

:

sorry, it's the Benton Harbor meetup.

675

:

All those people are in Ann Arbor.

676

:

They have a meetup now where everyone is

into those topics of farming, sovereignty,

677

:

and running permaculture project

678

:

and this reminded me a lot also of

those events, Katie, the Russian is

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:

organizing where it's all about the

whole system, not just about money.

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:

It's about what do we eat?

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:

How can we improve that more woman

can give birth in a normal way

682

:

rather than having a C section.

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:

How can we improve our medical treatment

and all of those kinds of other

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topics, which are very fundamental.

685

:

And so I thought it was just so

amazing to experience it that way.

686

:

And this is what got

me really into Bitcoin.

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:

Tali: You can listen to more

of Liv story on episode 97.

688

:

I've learned so much over the last

few months of doing the podcast.

689

:

Every time I talk to people I

have more Inspired ideas to get

690

:

more women involved and more

connected in the Bitcoin community.

691

:

I have launched the orange hatter women's

retreat specifically because there seems

692

:

to be such a great desire for women in

this space to get to know each other

693

:

and to have the opportunity to build

friendships and working relationships

694

:

so that we can help each other grow.

695

:

I created the orange Hatter

mastermind for this reason.

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:

Hyperbitcoinization is going to

take every single person's effort.

697

:

Everybody is a foot soldier.

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:

Everybody is a star.

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:

My continue goal is to create synergy

among women and to create the level of

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:

support that is not available elsewhere.

701

:

Especially, because this is

such a unique a group of people.

702

:

We have shared beliefs that are just

not found outside the Bitcoin space.

703

:

We believe in freedom.

704

:

We believe in autonomy.

705

:

We believe in self sovereignty.

706

:

And it's almost like it's an

unspoken understanding when you say

707

:

I'm a Bitcoiner and somebody else

says I'm a Bitcoiner immediately.

708

:

You just have that connection, that

you stand firmly on similar ideals

709

:

and believes, and there's not really

even any need for explanation.

710

:

And a lot of us feel somewhat isolated

in our immediate social group.

711

:

Bitcoin is not yet as popular as

we all hope it would be one day.

712

:

And so at least for me, and a lot

of the people that I've spoken to.

713

:

There are very few that have friends and

families are also Bitcoiners whom they

714

:

can share exciting news with, or even

talk about something frustrating in the

715

:

news that Bitcoiners can see through.

716

:

That Other people are accepting

as just a matter of fact.

717

:

If that's you and where

you are, you feel isolated.

718

:

Don't hesitate to reach out,

go to www.orange hatter.com.

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:

There are many ways for

you to get involved.

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:

I've mentioned the retreat.

721

:

I've mentioned the mastermind group.

722

:

I also have a weekly reading group.

723

:

And even if you haven't read the book

that we are discussing right now, come

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:

anyway, come socialize, come meet people.

725

:

We meet every week, Monday nights,

seven to eight 30 Eastern standard time.

726

:

And all you have to do

is send me an email.

727

:

Our links are private so

that we don't get trolls.

728

:

We unfortunately have had that experience.

729

:

So, um, you know, just reach out.

730

:

This is a safe space where all women.

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:

Who are trying to further our own

education in Bitcoin, as well as

732

:

share Bitcoin with people we love.

733

:

So show up.

734

:

Um, like I said, if you

can't make the retreat.

735

:

Come to the reading group.

736

:

If you want to take it farther and you

want to make a living in a Bitcoin space,

737

:

then consider joining our mastermind.

738

:

There are many ways to get involved.

739

:

Okay.

740

:

So let's keep going.

741

:

I want to share three more stories

with you today before we wrap up.

742

:

Next up is Toshi from Nigeria and

she gives us a glimpse of what she

743

:

has witnessed in terms of money.

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:

Toshi: I am Nigerian.

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:

So I'm from the East.

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Eastern part of Nigeria.

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So we, we are from, um, from a

certain tribe called the Igbo tribe.

748

:

Yeah.

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:

So, because Nigeria is, , divided

into, , different ethnic groups,

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:

different tribes, and we have over

503 languages spoken in Nigeria.

751

:

Last year, towards the ending of last

year, the Central Bank of Nigeria decided

752

:

that they wanted to redesign the old Naira

notes, particularly the 200 Naira notes,

753

:

500 Naira notes and the 1000 Naira notes.

754

:

the CBN, CBN is Central Bank of Nigeria,

so the CBN gave a particular deadline

755

:

for the circulation of that old naira

nodes design because they wanted

756

:

it to be out of circulation, hence.

757

:

The banks should stop giving out that

money, that particular ordinary note

758

:

around to the people, and whenever people

come in to deposit the ordinary note,

759

:

it should remain with the bank without

it going back into circulation again.

760

:

But this wasn't the case.

761

:

It kept, the ordinary notes kept

circulating and circulating and

762

:

then the deadline kept, approaching.

763

:

And then, , the central bank gave

like an ultimatum that once it

764

:

gets to this particular date, that

old Naira notes becomes invalid.

765

:

It's no longer a legal tender.

766

:

we see lots of people.

767

:

At ATM points have

768

:

long queues just to be able to get have

access to the newly designed Naira notes.

769

:

And because, of course.

770

:

The newly designed Naira note

wasn't already in circulation.

771

:

In fact, I would say it was on a scale

of one to 10, I would say like just two

772

:

over 10 of that of the new design of the

Naira note was already in circulation.

773

:

So it was crazy.

774

:

And the whole 36 states of Nigeria, not

a lot of people had access to the new,

775

:

to the new design of the Naira notes.

776

:

Hence, People were beginning to

form long queues at different ATM

777

:

points, at different banks, people

were forming long queues for hours.

778

:

Some people would stay for more than

12 hours just to be able to have

779

:

access to the newly designed variant.

780

:

And, you know, at some point I had to...

781

:

Make trips to several locations, , to

see what really is happening.

782

:

And I think I should still have

some of the videos, I don't know.

783

:

So I started making videos so that

people would see what really is

784

:

happening, and it was crazy and it was

devastating, you'd see people would

785

:

come out as early as 6:00 AM just to

be able to withdraw their own money.

786

:

And at the end of the day, they would

not even be able to have access to

787

:

the money because at the end of the

day, you see the A t M machine would.

788

:

The ATM would stop dispensing cash,

and you'd see these people who

789

:

have left their house since 6 a.

790

:

m.

791

:

stranded with no money at all.

792

:

So it was really, really devastating.

793

:

There was no money.

794

:

People, for the first time in Nigeria,

people didn't have fiat to buy and

795

:

sell or to make payments for stuff,

because for a long time, Nigeria...

796

:

Cash is king in Nigeria.

797

:

A lot of people still use cash

to buy things, to make payments,

798

:

and you know, all of that stuff.

799

:

So cash is still king in Nigeria.

800

:

So it was really devastating for business

owners, for families, and all of that.

801

:

So, thinking about how the whole

financial ecosystem has been, you see

802

:

that There's a whole level of control,

the central bank, or I would say it's

803

:

certain, a certain group of people

have so much control about money.

804

:

Now, I was going somewhere, so I stopped

to get a cab, and I saw this man, he was

805

:

kind of like in his thirties or forties

Um, and he was in really devastated.

806

:

He was just standing there and he was,

he looked really helpless and he was

807

:

just telling the other guy that he came

out to withdraw 5, 000 Naira and 5, 000

808

:

Naira is actually less than 10 dollars.

809

:

If you see how crazy that is.

810

:

So he just came out to draw less

than $10 just so him and his family

811

:

can have something to eat for the

day, and he wasn't able to do that.

812

:

So he, he didn't even

know what, what to do.

813

:

He didn't know how to go home or what

to tell his children or family about,

814

:

you know, their feeding and sustain.

815

:

So he was just dating us, teaching and.

816

:

And I was just thinking, it's not

like this man doesn't have money.

817

:

He probably does have money in his

bank account, but here he is stranded

818

:

because he cannot access his money

because of the whole, the whole process

819

:

of redesigning Naira and all of that.

820

:

So, you know, at some point I began to

see, Why there is an urgent need for

821

:

things like something like Bitcoin.

822

:

Tali: You can listen to the

rest of the conversation I had

823

:

with Toshi in episodes 67 to 70.

824

:

Next up is Carrie from Australia.

825

:

Carrie shares openly

her personal experience.

826

:

From the point of view of a

Jewish descendant and the

827

:

lingering Generational trauma.

828

:

that is experienced through money.

829

:

Carri: I was brought up by a gold bug.

830

:

So my mother was hyper aware of

issues to do with debt, to do with

831

:

what happened when we came off the

gold standard in:

832

:

stopped being backed by gold at all.

833

:

And she had painted a very, very

bleak picture for me over the years.

834

:

So and really gold was the only

investment that she trusted

835

:

and for all the right reasons.

836

:

Once I started hearing about Bitcoin,

not only did I connect very quickly,

837

:

with the problems that it solved.

838

:

But I also saw a much more hopeful

picture for humanity than I had

839

:

seen at any point in my life.

840

:

Even with gold, because I

didn't see gold as hope.

841

:

I saw gold as a potential escape, as a

way of maintaining value when the rest of

842

:

currency went to zero in purchasing power.

843

:

But I did not see it as hope for humanity.

844

:

Bitcoin not only has the capacity

to maintain purchasing power

845

:

against fiat, like gold, but it

is transformative in terms of what

846

:

it does for us as individuals and

therefore for society as a whole.

847

:

And it's a deeply, deeply

powerful, world changing technology

848

:

like the internet on steroids.

849

:

I will say this on a very personal note,

being brought up by a gold bug and being

850

:

told every single conversation from the

age of five and probably less, that The

851

:

world is terrible and there's no hope

and Western civilization is broken and

852

:

is doomed and I suffered with terrible

depression for many years and a lot of

853

:

it was because of this sense of doom

and gloom and that there really was

854

:

no hope and that There was no way out.

855

:

And so perhaps for me, part of

the excitement of discovering

856

:

Bitcoin was, it was quite personal.

857

:

It wasn't just the global South.

858

:

It wasn't just debt.

859

:

It wasn't just the next generation and

all those kind of altruistic things.

860

:

There was something very

personal in it for me, that.

861

:

When I say it was the first hope I

had in over 50 years, I really mean

862

:

that at a, in a deeply personal way.

863

:

And as someone who's Jewish and was

brought up with stories of the Holocaust,

864

:

and my mother was brought up in the UK

being bombed, and I've told this story a

865

:

couple of different places, but you know,

her brothers were fighting in the war.

866

:

They were both pilots, I

think, or one might've been.

867

:

Air Force and one might have been Navy.

868

:

I might have that wrong.

869

:

And you know, cousin in

concentration camp, et cetera.

870

:

And Really, part of her whole, my

whole upbringing was the West is

871

:

going to hell in a hand basket.

872

:

People turn on each other when things get

ugly and Jews will be blamed and vilified.

873

:

And so there was a very personal

aspect to all of what was going on

874

:

with money printing and with debt.

875

:

It felt like the world was

a very dangerous place.

876

:

I never really got past that.

877

:

And Bitcoin.

878

:

started to help to heal me.

879

:

And part of that is the

hope of the protocol itself.

880

:

And part of it is the community who

perceive the world in a not dissimilar way

881

:

to me, and a sense of finding my tribe.

882

:

But it's a very broad

and very diverse tribe.

883

:

I've been toying recently, as I

think as we all do, when we first

884

:

encounter Bitcoin, is this a cult?

885

:

Am I falling for something here?

886

:

And then someone like Greg Foss is so

helpful here when he goes, it's just math.

887

:

And you go, okay, so

I'm in the cult of math.

888

:

I can live with that.

889

:

To the degree that math is a cult.

890

:

That's apparently the cult I'm a part of.

891

:

Tali: You can catch the rest

of my interview with Carrie.

892

:

On episode 74.

893

:

Before I go on and share the

last story with you today.

894

:

I want to share a very exciting new

project with you in the orange header

895

:

initiative which is what I called, Chain.

896

:

Intention experiment.

897

:

Bitcoin edition.

898

:

I have recently been reading Lynne

McTaggart's work on intention experiment.

899

:

And I thought, why not?

900

:

Bitcoin?

901

:

We have so many women who are trying to

make a difference in the Bitcoin space.

902

:

And thoughts have power.

903

:

So.

904

:

I created the intention experiment.

905

:

You can find it on my

www.orangehatter.com/intention-

906

:

experiment.

907

:

Or you can go to the main web page and

go under the tab labeled get involved

908

:

and find intention experiment there.

909

:

The kickoff is going to be on the last

day of the women's retreat in Mexico.

910

:

I think it's really fitting.

911

:

That after the women have absorbed

all the wonderful energy and shed

912

:

negativity and raised our vibration,

that it would be the perfect time to

913

:

kick off our intention experiment with

women from around the world and men too.

914

:

it will only take 15 minutes, five minutes

to gather five minutes to focus with

915

:

a breathing exercise or two, and then

five minutes of sending our collective

916

:

thought energy toward our intention.

917

:

I am in the process of talking to

different leaders in the Bitcoin

918

:

space to figure out a measurable metric

that we can all send our intention

919

:

to so that we can start to track

the impact of our group intention.

920

:

And it will be an ongoing thing,

but our kickoff right now is going.

921

:

Going.

922

:

To be a March the 20th.

923

:

It is a Wednesday.

924

:

And it will be at 11 o'clock

Eastern standard time.

925

:

for more information, go to the web page

and sign up to be on the email list.

926

:

As we get more details I will share.

927

:

And also of course, send reminders out.

928

:

Let's see what we can do by.

929

:

Synergizing our thought energy.

930

:

it's a new territory for me.

931

:

But the more women I talked to

her in the space, the more I

932

:

realized that we all understand.

933

:

That there is this undeniable

energy flow that is moving Bitcoin.

934

:

And we want to add some oomph to that.

935

:

And, um, you know, play our part.

936

:

So if you want to get

involved, make sure you go to.

937

:

www.orangehatter.com/intention-experiment

and get your name on the email list

938

:

and join our livestream on March the

20th for the intention experiment.

939

:

All right.

940

:

So now.

941

:

I want to share the last story with you.

942

:

Mary Lou is one of my favorite guests.

943

:

So humble.

944

:

What an incredible life story

she shared on the podcast.

945

:

And I want to show you a little

clip before we wrap up today.

946

:

Mary Lou: I'm Mary Lou,

and my husband is Jeff.

947

:

We've been married 48 years.

948

:

We have four children plus

another one we call a son.

949

:

We have ten grandchildren so far.

950

:

And I'm also close with my three brothers.

951

:

And what a blessing to

be surrounded by family.

952

:

So, God and family are the things that

are very important to me the most.

953

:

I feel like.

954

:

The reason I was put here on earth was to

raise children into a whole new generation

955

:

for our country and for our world.

956

:

So that was my definite main focus.

957

:

Now that I'm older.

958

:

I, I'm retired from my real job.

959

:

I was Director of Religious Education

for the Catholic Church, actually for

960

:

five Catholic churches at the same time.

961

:

Growing up I grew up

below the poverty level.

962

:

My dad had four jobs, but

no benefits whatsoever.

963

:

No health insurance, just by the hour.

964

:

, and.

965

:

It never bothered me that

we were really poverty.

966

:

, we had cousins that were on what

they called welfare back then.

967

:

And they would share some of their

stuff with us , if we really needed.

968

:

I feel very blessed that I

was never jealous or envious.

969

:

of my cousins for receiving, again, they

called it welfare back then, I know they

970

:

call it something else nowadays and back

then, you wouldn't have food stamps or

971

:

EBT cards, you would go line up in long

lines down Main Street to a building

972

:

where you would pick up welfare food.

973

:

And it was interesting.

974

:

It was, , it almost looked like army

food where you'd get an enormous

975

:

can of tuna fish and printed on it.

976

:

It said tuna fish.

977

:

That was the only thing on the can,

you know, and a block of cheese,

978

:

but it would be like 10 pounds.

979

:

In one block, and it said cheese.

980

:

So, you know, whatever

kind it was I don't know.

981

:

But my, my, I would say, if, send Mary Lou

if she comes and stands in line with us.

982

:

I'll give her some of

the stuff we don't like.

983

:

So, We had a lot of stuff

we didn't like either.

984

:

My older brother and I still to this

day talk about we'd get a cardboard box

985

:

and inside was a plastic bag and the

box said, Non fat, dry powdered milk.

986

:

That was exactly what it said.

987

:

It was the worst.

988

:

And we, my mom and I, we'd mix it in

a blender and you had to mix it with

989

:

warm milk because it would be too

lumpy and then put it in the fridge.

990

:

And I say that because it goes to

show how I became a saver, not a

991

:

spender, how to get along in life with

a low amount of money for many years.

992

:

, I'm not a person that wants to

be wealthy, just comfortable.

993

:

And I think through these life choices

and life learnings, but mainly due to

994

:

God's blessings, we're comfortable enough.

995

:

We're ready for retirement

should it come, you know.

996

:

, my husband has been working, if I can

brag, 51 years at the same company.

997

:

I heard about Bitcoin through my son.

998

:

He started to tell my husband and I

about Bitcoin he was diving into it.

999

:

, , he was really pouring time into it.

:

01:03:51,879 --> 01:03:56,559

He wanted to share this with

us, but at the time, my husband

:

01:03:56,569 --> 01:03:58,879

was not really interested.

:

01:03:59,069 --> 01:04:01,869

He had his way of saving.

:

01:04:02,309 --> 01:04:09,609

but My son was so on fire, he wanted to

tell my husband and I about Bitcoin I

:

01:04:09,779 --> 01:04:14,569

missed a lot of the conversations

because I'd be playing with his kids.

:

01:04:14,929 --> 01:04:18,799

I'm trying to listen but all

talking grandma, grandma, grandma.

:

01:04:19,424 --> 01:04:23,368

And My son started coming over

to my house late at night, when

:

01:04:23,378 --> 01:04:25,468

all of his kids were home in bed.

:

01:04:25,524 --> 01:04:28,624

That way grandma couldn't

be playing with kids.

:

01:04:29,708 --> 01:04:34,928

He started giving me articles

to read, resources and his own

:

01:04:34,968 --> 01:04:42,232

explanations and that was the

beginnings of me wanting more

:

01:04:43,462 --> 01:04:46,912

Tali: I don't know about you,

but every time I listened to

:

01:04:46,912 --> 01:04:49,462

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:

01:04:49,792 --> 01:04:52,282

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