The episode, marking the 100th episode of the Orange Hatter podcast, revisits interviews and shares stories of various Bitcoin women around the world. The women come from diverse contexts and experiences, yet all share the common goal of safeguarding their hard-earned money through Bitcoin. Aspects of their personal lives and backgrounds are shared, providing insights into the struggles faced in different countries and the impacts of inflation on their lives. Tali also introduces other Orange Hatter initiatives, including the Orange Hatter Women's Retreat, a Mastermind group, a weekly reading group, and an intention experiment, aimed at creating synergy and building networks for Bitcoin women. Tali also shares a special coupon for the upcoming Bitcoin Magazine's Nashville conference in July 2024.
00:00 Introduction: Empowering Women through Bitcoin
00:21 The Journey of Orange Hatter: From Inception to 100th Episode
01:12 Bitcoin: A Tool for Everyone
02:55 Bitcoin Stories from Around the World
04:21 Bitcoin: A Solution for Financial Struggles
04:27 Exciting Announcements and Favorite Clips
04:50 The First Episode of Orange Hatter Podcast
05:06 Bitcoin Stories: From Italy to Tanzania
12:02 Bitcoin Stories: From Belgium to Japan
13:15 Bitcoin Stories: From the US to the World
18:44 The Orange Hatter Women's Retreat
20:55 Bitcoin Stories: From the US to the World (Part 2)
32:01 The Orange Hatter Mastermind Group
34:28 Bitcoin Stories: Immigrants to the US
35:23 Understanding Money and Corruption: A Personal Journey
35:46 A Venezuelan Perspective on Inflation and Bitcoin
37:30 Aida's Story: The Cuban Economy and the Power of Bitcoin
41:26 Liv's Story: From Germany to Bitcoin
43:30 Empowering Women in the Bitcoin Community
46:54 Toshi's Story: The Nigerian Currency Crisis
51:58 Carri's Story: From Gold Bug to Bitcoin Believer
56:36 The Orange Hatter Intention Experiment
59:49 Mary Lou's Story: From Poverty to Bitcoin
01:04:43 Celebrating the 100th Episode of Orange Hatter
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My absolute hope is that more women, more women, more women, more
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:women find their way to Bitcoin.
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:Especially the moms because they
will influence the next generation.
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:Hey, everybody.
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:Welcome to orange Hatter.
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:Can you believe this is already
the 100th episode of orange Hatter?
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:I am absolutely blown away.
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:It has been such a tremendous journey.
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:It started with a one very simple desire
I had, which was to make friends with
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:more Bitcoiner women in the space.
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:And by sharing their story
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:I hoped to entice more women who are
precoiners, who are still sitting on
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:the fence about Bitcoin to hopefully
identify themselves in, these Bitcoin
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:women's stories and come a little closer
to the rabbit hole and check it out.
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:With that a goal in mind.
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:I want it to talk to as many
everyday women as possible.
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:I wanted to present Bitcoin as something
that is a use for everybody, your
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:sister, your mom, your daughter, somebody
you can stand in line at the grocery
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:store with, , somebody standing next
to you or the post office, sitting
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:next to you at the doctor's office.
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:Every day women, because
Bitcoin is for everyone.
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:It's not just for the famous,
it's not just for the rich, it's
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:not just for the influencers.
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:It's for everyone.
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:There is a use case for everyone and.
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:Yes, it can be used by refugees
escaping political oppression.
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:Or women who are escaping
abusive relationships.
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:But most importantly, I want to everyday
women who are living paycheck to paycheck
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:and accepting our monetary system as an
inevitable reality having no way out.
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:And just being victims to the
inflationary environment that is
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:just running rampant right now.
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:And I know a lot of parents are
very worried for their children.
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:For the first time in human
history people are talking about
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:expecting their children's future
to be less bright than their own.
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:Throughout human history, generations
of parents have placed hope and even
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:expectancy that their children's
future will be better than theirs,
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:but for the first time it is not so.
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:Everybody sees the problem we're
experiencing, but not everybody
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:knows the solution to it.
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:So with orange hotter, my goal is
to reach as many everyday women as
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:possible with everyday women's stories.
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:Through this project, I have
met just amazing people.
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:I went back and.
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:Revisit it, the episodes
that I have done so far.
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:And I counted up the number of
countries in which my guests
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:have had life experiences in.
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:Not just travel through, but lived there.
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:I counted over 30 countries.
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:They cover all the continents
except for Antarctica.
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:Are there any Bitcoiners in Antartica if
you know of anyone, please let me know.
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:I would love to interview them.
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:, . I've spoken to people.
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:Who are in their late teens.
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:All the way up.
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:To people who are getting
ready for retirement.
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:Throughout that age range, then you have
people from all different backgrounds.
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:I interviewed Mary Lou who grew
up below the poverty line.
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:And I talked to people like Andy,
who is a venture capitalist.
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:So everybody in between.
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:. We all have our own personal life story.
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:We all have our own personal reason
why we're looking for an alternative to
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:the currency that we are using today,
Whether you're in the us and using
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:the us dollar, which comparatively
is still relatively stable or in
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:a country where your national
currency is devaluing very quickly.
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:For our own reasons, we have
found our solution in Bitcoin.
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:All right.
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:So for the rest of the episode, what I'm
going to do is switch back and forth
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:between making exciting announcements
about new Orange Hatter initiatives and
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:playing some of my favorite clips from
the women I have interviewed so far.
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:Make sure you stick around,
listen to the very, very end.
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:I have a special offer for you.
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:That you don't want to miss.
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:So here we go.
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:To kick us off here is the very first.
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:Intro to the very first.
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:episode for the orange Hatter podcast.
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:And my very first orange
Hatter guest Laura.
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:Hi, everyone.
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:Welcome to the first
episode of Orange Hatter.
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:I'm so excited to launch this project
to share stories and conversations
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:with women in the hopes that I can
help you get interested and curious
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:about this thing called Bitcoin.
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:My very first guest is Laura from Italy.
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Hello everybody.
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:Chao.
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:I and from, from the salute, you
can understand it, and I'm Italian.
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:I'm speaking for Milano.
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:Maybe one of, of the two most
important cities in Italy.
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:And, , I, the first time I heard,
, about Bitcoin, it was, , during, , the
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:Covid Lockdowns because we have, , we
had in Italy, , a lot of problems
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:also in my town is in the north
of Italy that had, , that lots of
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:problem that worldwide, , are known.
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:I'm a normal person.
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:I have a normal job.
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:So I have no money to invest and
Bitcoin was not one of my target.
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:the first things it was to recognize
that I was completely financial
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:illiteracy illiterate completely.
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:I didn't know anything about money,
about, uh, financial, about economics.
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:I was so, so ignorant about, uh, this
topic, but I I work, uh, with, um,
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:with a nice job in a commercial office.
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:And, my income is, , 1,200 Euros.
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:And I have to pay a lot for, for rent
for the house, a lot for groceries,
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:a lot for, uh, energy bills.
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:So I have, I, I, I remain with maybe
100 euros in, uh, in the pocket.
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:That, that I can do all my, all my,
uh, I have to do everything with this.
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:really understand why
I am so poor in my 50.
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:Uh, 54 years.
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:I work from 30 years and I don't have
money, uh, as a store of value, and
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:now I understand why, why I don't have.
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:Everything has changed because
first off I saw, uh, a light,
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:uh, we used to say in Italy.
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:I dunno if, if it is
the same in the States.
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:I saw a light at the end of the tunnel.
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:I understand that Bitcoin
is a freedom tool.
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:Tali: If you want to listen to
Laura story, please go back to
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:the beginning of the episode
history and start with episode one.
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:She talks about her personal financial
experience with such honesty . Laura's
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:super passionate and working with local
merchants in Milan to try to create
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:something similar to Bitcoin beach.
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:She's such an amazing
person to get to know.
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:The next present I want
to highlight is Nancy.
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:Nancy is probably halve Laura's age.
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:Her life is just beginning.
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:She's a young woman.
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:In Tanzania, she has a toddler.
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:She's just starting.
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:Her journey as an adult and.
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:She's really quite ahead of her time.
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:Even as a young adult, working
with her husband, very deliberately
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:to look for ways to safeguard
the value of their savings.
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:I want to highlight her background.
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:And then just a quick story
about how she found Bitcoin.
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:Nancy: My parents worked in Botswana and
then Zimbabwe, and then we moved to Papua
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:New Guinea in the South Pacific for
most of my childhood, and then moved to
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:Tanzania when I was a , 16, did two years
of high school here and then went to Cape
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:Town, South Africa, then moved back here
to Dar es Salaam, where I currently am.
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:I'm married to Don and that is
how I got to know about Bitcoin.
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:When we met, to be as frank as
possible, we were both terrible
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:with with, um, with our finances.
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:We didn't have any savings.
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:When we started dating, we, we thought it
would be nice to kind of put some money
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:into a joint pot to spend on our dates.
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:In Tanzania, they have mobile money.
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:So your phone, you can send money to
your phone and store it on your phone.
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:And so we started just by doing that.
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:And then the pot grew and
it, it reached the limit.
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:of what could be stored on mobile money.
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:So we opened up a bank account and then
We had to open up several other bank
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:accounts, It was a lot of bank fees.
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:I would get a salary to my bank account,
And then there would be a bank fee
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:to send some to my phone, and then
there'd be a a mobile money fee each
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:time I tried to use it from my phone.
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:it was costing me money to have money
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:I think where Don really started seeking
was we were living month to month,
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:and it was really frustrating because
we both had full time jobs, we were both
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:working at international schools, but
for some reason it just felt like we
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:couldn't save anything, like nothing,
nothing we do made, nothing we did made
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:a difference, and at the same time we
had, Our parents who have properties and.
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:In their time, they were able to buy
properties with like one month salary,
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:which now is worth so much more.
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:The expectation was you get
married, get a job, buy some
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:land and start building a house.
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:But it was impossible.
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:We, we couldn't do it.
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:my dad bought land Good land when
he just got out of university.
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:He just finished his PhD and he bought
it for 700 shillings That same, plot
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:of land would probably go for like
upwards from 200 million shillings now.
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:And so Don was feeling really
frustrated , with that whole situation.
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:So I said, Find us a way find us a
place where we can we can put our
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:money that's safe that you know
where we can stand a chance to to
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:start to save and he found Bitcoin.
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:Tali: So as you can see.
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:Nancy and Laura.
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:Two very different women,
different age group.
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:Literally from different continents,
different life background.
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:Coming to Bitcoin with a common goal
of somehow safeguarding the money that
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:they earned through their hard work.
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:I've also interviewed,
as I mentioned before.
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:Many women from different
cultural backgrounds.
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a few of the women here.
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:They are from.
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:Different continents, sauna living
in Belgium, but from India marina,
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:she's living in New York, but grew
up in the global south Terico in
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:Thailand, but grew up in Japan.
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:And of course our own American women.
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:Let's take a listen.
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:Sanjna: I'm based in Belgium.
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:I've lived here my whole life.
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:my husband He is from the U.S.,
I'm from Europe, but we're
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:Marina: I was born in the US,
um, half Mexican, half American.
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:I lived in the US, until I was five.
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:And then I grew up in South America,
Mexico, Bolivia, Columbia, and
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:came back to the US for college.
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:So I'm American, grew up in Latin America,
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:Teruko: I was born and raised in Japan
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:I was interested in the world outside of
Japan, so as soon as I entered college
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:I started traveling around the world.
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:, So far, I've probably visited
more than 70 countries.
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:but I stopped counting after 50
countries, so I don't know exactly.
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:Lindsay: I
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Michigan, a fairly rural area.
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Tali: Through orange Hatter, I've met some just really fascinating women.
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on the show was Gillian.
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went from studying film.
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internet working as tech support and
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Buddhist psychoanalyst.
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:Gillian: Many, many years ago, 55
years ago, I was born in Malaysia.
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:I was raised there till I, till I
was 13 and my parents sent me , to
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:Singapore to study because they
have a better educational system.
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:I went to college in the States
because I wanted to study film.
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:I did my master's in East Asian languages
and cultures , went to live in Japan
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and subsequently to the States, to
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:Tali: Isn't that fascinating.
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:And that's just the first
half of Gillian's life.
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:Since that point, she transitioned
into studying yoga and Rolfing.
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into cranial sacral therapy.
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:Gillian: I was doing craniosacral
therapy that was put together by
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:someone called Franklin Sills, and
he was visiting from England in to
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:And the wife was coming so I only knew
her as the wife Franklin's wife, and she
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:was going to teach a three day workshop
called coalescence of compassion.
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:I was really attracted to these
words, coalescence of compassion.
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:So I did do the workshop three days.
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:I sat there just crying.
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:It wasn't sobbing was I was seated
there present and tears just
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:a resonance, a strong resonance when you
hear truth that you don't hear normally.
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:And you see this person in there
in front of you and you can
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:So I thought, I want to
study with this person.
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:And the only thing she was doing
was a master's in psychotherapy,
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:I don't want to study psychotherapy.
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later, I thought, Oh, if
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:Maura, her name is Maura Sills.
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:If Maura is going to teach
a singing class, I would go.
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psychotherapy or whatever it is?
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another year of practice.
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:I was trying to free myself and help
people free themselves , through
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:therapy, but we will never
be free without a free money.
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:And I was like this white elephant in
the room was missing in all this therapy
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:and alignment stuff I'm trying to do.
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:We need to align with money.
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:And so that was actually for me, the last
piece coming together, although probably
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:money is the first piece of many people,
but it's like it had to come last for me.
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alignment needs to be made.
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:We cannot right the
Buddha was able to do it.
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:But how many people can be Buddha
He had to go through all he lived
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he was worried about concerned about
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:other people, and he was looking for
a way within right to find happiness
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:And he found it right and he
taught us he gave us the teachings.
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that money part was taken care
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Bitcoin and spirituality.
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:I took the teaching, The Four Noble
Truths, the of Buddha's teaching,
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:where the fourth truth is the Eightfold
Path, the Noble Eightfold Path.
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:And if you look at all the Noble
Eightfold Path, Bitcoin, or sound
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:money like Bitcoin, can help you really
more easily achieve, Five of them.
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:So for me, telling people about
Bitcoin, helping people understand,
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:, Tali: I've heard a lot
of different people.
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:Share the idea that they
believe Bitcoin is a godsend.
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:But I've never looked at it through
the lens of Buddhism before.
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:So I have found Gillan's,
discussion absolutely fascinating.
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of it, make sure you go to
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:Through the many conversations that
I've had with orange Henry guests.
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:All of these fascinating women
spread all around the world.
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:Wouldn't it be amazing if we can get
everybody in the same place in the same
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the same experiences and being able to
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because we each understand and agree
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:I dreamed up this idea of doing
an orange Hatter women's retreat.
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asking people for locations and
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:came across Amanda, who is part
of the Bitcoin Yucatan project.
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:The world through basically
the same lens and long story
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:short, we created the Yucatan.
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:Orange Hatter women's retreat,
which will be taking place
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:And, um, since then, even as I talk to
more and more women who are in different,
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:beautiful locations of the world, The
idea is that we will eventually have a
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:orange hotter women's retreat on every
single continent to make it really
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:easy for Bitcoiner women to gather.
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:And to share and elevate their energy.
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:So that we can do what we believe so
deeply about, which is to spread the
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the retreat before our retreat
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:They will take place in Yucatan
or elsewhere, I am talking to
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different locations right now.
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name to our email list.
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:Go to www.orangehatter.com and you'll find
under the tab labeled Retreat, Yucatan.
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:You can enter your email address
there and we'll keep you posted.
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:I'm having so much fun.
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:Listening back to all of
these women's interviews.
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:I want to introduce of couple more
women they're American with different
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:Jacqui: I'm a single mom,
and my daughter's 26 now.
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:And I learned about blockchain and
Bitcoin about five or six years ago.
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:My background's law, I didn't
know a lot about finance.
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:I wasn't interested in finance
until I kind of, you know, learned
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:Sarah: I have three adorable
children, and they're all under
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elementary school craziness and
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planning, house management, all
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:Ella: Generation Bitcoin, which is a
group of Gen Z Bitcoiners who are really
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:on a mission to try and bring Bitcoin
education to Gen Z and really inspire
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:them to be a part of the Bitcoin space and
grow it and innovate in it because they
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:will inherit Bitcoin, , moving forward.
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:I am very lucky to now
be a part of the group.
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:I am in charge of projects.
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:One project that we are just starting
is called the Bitcoin University Guide.
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:It's important for students to
feel encouraged to embrace Bitcoin,
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:where their world is changing a
lot, but Bitcoin is kind of hope
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Bitcoin University Guide comes in.
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:Tali: Let's hear a little bit
more from , our American women.
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:She has three young children
all under the age of seven.
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:A very interesting first
encounter with Bitcoin.
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:And Mel who came into the
Bitcoin space through antiques.
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:Sarah: My husband is a musician,
and as you can imagine, the Covid
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:pandemic shutdowns did not do
very well for musicians and public
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where in the blink of an eye, our
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because every gig fell off his calendar.
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of fear, but also time.
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Bitcoin specifically as this
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:A lot of people are like, why
not just stay with money?
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:Why not just stay with money?
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when I say money, why not stay
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:And I'm like, well, there
is something better.
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:And we know how to appreciate
tools for their purpose and,
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:and even antiquated tools Like a
phonograph, like an Edison phonograph.
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there's also things that just
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really exciting to think about is
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like a vocabulary to put Bitcoin in
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of and use currency that is more
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going to be even more scalable.
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:Tali: Sarah talks about how she's
planning to use Bitcoin in her
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:life, which is really for college
planning for her three young children.
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:Instead of investing her money
in a 529 college savings fund..
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:She decided that it would actually make
more economic sense to save for her
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:children's college in Bitcoin, if you
know someone who has young children and
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that would be applicable to them.
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:Please direct them to Sarah's episode.
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into several smaller parts.
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she first came across a Bitcoiner.
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:Lindsay: I found myself on a first date
with a guy who was a Bitcoiner and I
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:met the guy for dinner and we were just
getting to know each other, talking
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:You know what we were doing in Nashville.
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:And it comes out that this guy is
preparing to buy a house and actually as
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put an offer on it, but he was waiting
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:to hear if his offer was going to be
accepted because the offer was in Bitcoin.
410
:Tali: Next we'll hear from
Mel and antique reseller.
411
:Mel: My husband is a comic booking
card collector from childhood on and
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:we were gonna buy our first house and
I saw this eBay, I kept hearing about
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:eBay and I said, why don't we try
selling some of this stuff on eBay and
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:maybe we can raise some house money.
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:Well, that was it.
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:I was hooked.
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:And I, I couldn't even
buy a digital camera.
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:It was so expensive to buy one.
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:I bought a scanner.
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:I would lay things on it.
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:I would put a blanket on top.
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:I'm a completely clueless financially.
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:I have no nothing., we
grew up with nothing.
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:We didn't, know anything about the stock
market, know anything about anything,
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:we're not taught that in school.
426
:The only thing my mom taught me, which
really annoyed about, to this day,
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:money's only good for the things that buy.
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:there's been two things in my life that
I could see straight down the line.
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:One was selling online.
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:I could see it straight down the line.
431
:20, 25 years, everything was gonna
be online, and Bitcoin is only is
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:the second thing in my entire life
that I've ever felt like that 20,
433
:25 years straight down the line.
434
:Tali: Here's another American woman
that I interviewed with an interesting
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:perspective on Bitcoin and how it
changed her outlook for the career
436
:that she has chosen, that she was so
originally motivated by, but now seeing
437
:it completely through different lens.
438
:Let's take a listen to Aimee story.
439
:Aimee: my dad, he owned several
businesses, he was a general contractor,
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:and I feel like he always was feeling
like the state and the federal
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:government were just putting too
much on him as a, an employer and
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:taking too much of what he was earning
and he was always resentful of that.
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:And he would also say things like you
really don't own your house because
444
:if you don't pay your property taxes,
the government can take it from you.
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:, so he was always railing
against the system in that way.
446
:And then my ex husband was, a
huge, , pro medical marijuana,
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:anti state kind of person.
448
:And so, I think that I had, a lot
of, Freedom inclinations from those
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:two influences and then during COVID,
I guess that's really when the light
450
:for me, uh, because as my background,
I said, was in science, my doctorate's
451
:in microbiology and molecular genetics.
452
:And when I saw the response to COVID,
it didn't make any sense to me.
453
:And then, as soon as the
government was like, we're going
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:to shut down for two weeks.
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:I'm like, it is not going to be two weeks.
456
:This is like, a lot of the
freedom grabs they did after 9 11.
457
:I remember noticing that back then,
all the freedoms we were losing.
458
:And, I've been practically resentful
of going through TSA every time
459
:I have since, which has been many
and thinking it's ridiculous we're
460
:still doing some of these things.
461
:And Vermont was extremely,
extremely, compliant.
462
:I felt so alone because I was the only
one looking around saying, this is insane.
463
:This is not how you should react
and deal with a respiratory virus.
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:Everybody's eventually going to
get this no matter how much we lock
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:down and how long we lock down.
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:It's a respiratory virus.
467
:and, you know, because it was this
small thing that people couldn't see
468
:it was just so fear driven and it was
the same thing with 9 11 after 9 11
469
:the whole fear narrative around, um,
terrorism, and it was just used to
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:take people's freedoms away and, and
our government, I feel, I felt ever
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:increasingly since then is, it's just
become like a cancer on our country.
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:Our government has gone further
and further away from the values
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:that this country was founded on.
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:I work in higher education and access
to higher education is very important
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:to me, but I realize with our fiat
currency and our debt, I mean, things are
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:so broken and, with The vast majority
of people that have gotten poorer and
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:poorer versus the 1 percent of the 0.
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:1 percent that have gotten richer and
richer, this chasm can't be, , fixed at
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:this point with anything, but Bitcoin.
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:And until, things come back into balance
with people tending toward Bitcoin as
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:a sound money and as a base layer to a
new financial system, the folks that I
482
:work with, I don't think that they're
just going to be able to change their
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:lives by attaining a college degree.
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:I think that, they're working within
a system that's so broken that that
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:system needs to be fixed first.
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:. But, , I feel like I got one foot out
of the higher education world because
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:it's kind of like burst the bubble.
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:It's made me feel like my job won't
make a difference because fundraising
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:to make college more accessible
doesn't matter when the fiat system
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:has screwed things up so badly.
491
:, working in philanthropy, the other
realization I've had is that the
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:people that are in a position to
make large philanthropic gifts
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:have benefited, they've been on the
benefiting end of the fiat system.
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:And to me, it's so appalling
now to realize that,
495
:now they're giving that money back to
the other people that they essentially
496
:stole it from whether they were, they
weren't like wittingly doing that, but
497
:they, but that is essentially the reality.
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:And now they're giving it back
to them with conditions and it
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:just has made me lose so much.
500
:So much of the inspiration of what
originally drove me and my work
501
:and in fundraising in higher ed
502
:Tali: You can listen to the
rest of Aimee interview on.
503
:Episode 78.
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:After talking to so many women who
are Bitcoiners, there's one common
505
:theme that comes up over and over
again, which is everyone would rather.
506
:Not be working in the fiat at world.
507
:But to be working in the Bitcoin space.
508
:That has inspired me to start a
Orange Hatter Mastermind group.
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:And what that is is a group of us.
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:We're all entrepreneurs.
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:Bitcoin women.
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:Developing our business.
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:So that we can.
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:Live breathe, work in the Bitcoin space.
515
:It can feel very lonely.
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:Which is why earlier in the episode,
I talked about gathering Bitcoin or
517
:women together for our retreat, but
that is only a short time out of a year.
518
:And so this mastermind group I created,
we meet weekly and we come together
519
:and we support each other consistently.
520
:And with Face Time and with sharing
with cross promoting with listening
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:year when we need some encouragement
with ideas when we need some advice.
522
:, we . Are working together.
523
:Creating synergy to make
our business successful.
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:The group started in January this year.
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:And.
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:It is a one-year commitment.
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:I am going to open up another
group in June of this year.
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:And we will meet in the middle of the day.
529
:Right now, the group that I
have is meeting in the evenings.
530
:Which hasn't worked for all
the different time zones.
531
:So the one that is launching in June
will be in the middle of the day
532
:In the Eastern standard time zone.
533
:, so that hopefully will make
it easier for people who are.
534
:, in Europe.
535
:Outside the U.S.
536
:Time zones.
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:If you are interested, go
to www.orangehatter.com.
538
:And under the tab that
is labeled get involved.
539
:Look for mastermind and there, you can
put your name on the waitlist so that
540
:when the mastermind group opens for June.
541
:You'll get a notification and you can
send me your application to get involved.
542
:Again, that's
www.orangehatter.com/mastermind, or you
543
:can just go to the main website and go to.
544
:the dropdown menu, get involved
and scroll down to mastermind.
545
:Okay.
546
:So, so far we've heard from people who
live outside of the U S we've heard
547
:from people who are from the U S.
548
:And now I want to introduce you to a
few women who are immigrants to the
549
:U S so they have a unique perspective
comparing what's happening here.
550
:And what's happening in
their parents' country.
551
:First up is Sophie.
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:She is a Venezuelan American.
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:Let's take a listen.
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:Sophi: My parents came to this country in
the eighties when the United States was
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:at the peak of its economic performance,
even today, they're very much in denial
556
:that the dollar could collapse or that
the government is corrupt because they've
557
:seen it in such an extreme version in
Venezuela in their country that they
558
:cannot fathom that it would happen here.
559
:Even though, people are people
and people make mistakes , and
560
:nobody is immune to sin, you know.
561
:and power corrupts, everybody.
562
:I'm gonna be honest with you, I just
never thought about money, because I
563
:mean, except for like, in the way
that most people would think about it.
564
:Do we have it?
565
:Do we not?
566
:Are we gonna live the next day?
567
:But I never really thought
about where money came from.
568
:Even as the inflation crisis was
hitting Venezuela, I just didn't
569
:understand what that actually meant.
570
:In my mind, I was like, well, an evil
dictator has taken over the country, so
571
:of course the economy is gonna do badly.
572
:But I didn't understand
the bridge between A and B.
573
:I didn't understand what it was that
the government was doing and what
574
:nationalization was doing to our
country to make the currency inflate.
575
:And basically corruption
devalue our currency.
576
:So I never really thought about
it from that point of view until
577
:I understood what Bitcoin was.
578
:And when I understood Bitcoin, I
started going back to my upbringing.
579
:I started, I started
understanding, wow, okay.
580
:So they started printing more money
to pay off more people to, 'cause it
581
:was a corrupt government and the more
people they paid off, the more dollars
582
:they stole from other reserves because
the, the ... was backed by the dollar.
583
:And then, when they ran out of dollars,
they had to print more money so that the
584
:dollars would be worth more ... then I
understood, wow, they're doing something
585
:very similar in the United States.
586
:How could that be?
587
:We don't have a corrupt government
or, so I thought, and then that,
588
:that all started making sense.
589
:But at first my upbringing didn't really
clue me in to any of this stuff because
590
:I was just, I was living in a bubble.
591
:I didn't know what was going on,
and I was very, I just didn't know.
592
:Tali: Check out Sophie's episodes.
593
:60-62.
594
:Next up - Aida.
595
:She is a Cuban American.
596
:Let's hear her story.
597
:Aida: I am from Cuba, so I had a
little bit of background or of how
598
:hard is to not have an economy or not.
599
:You don't even think about it because.
600
:It's so, the situation is so bad that
at some point you don't even care
601
:about that anymore because there is
like no crisis, no temporary crisis.
602
:It's a complete, the full year
crisis that you have in your country.
603
:Your money is not valuable at all.
604
:Your lives becomes just to worry about the
food that you're going to put on the table
605
:that day because you cannot plan ahead.
606
:You cannot plan for retirement.
607
:Like in this country, people think
about they have their retirement plans
608
:and they have all that thinking on the
future and then they move to Florida.
609
:That's the stereotypical, right?
610
:That people move to Florida and
have a beautiful retirement there.
611
:You, you don't think about that in Cuba.
612
:People, what they do there, first of
all, the lucky ones that have a little
613
:bit of money to save is the struggle,
how to save it because our country have
614
:changed the currency multiple times.
615
:The currency is totally devalued, so
we don't even, we don't even appear
616
:on the inflation charts anymore.
617
:Every time people talk about inflation,
how inflation grows and everything, they
618
:mention Venezuela, they mention Argentina.
619
:Cuba is not in the charts!
620
:Because we are so done, we don't
even are part of those charts.
621
:So it's really hard for the people there.
622
:People also use like gold, like buy
jewelry sometimes to have the savings and
623
:they save in dollars, which is what most
of the Latin American countries do, right?
624
:And that's the way that they make savings.
625
:But for example.
626
:We, my, my family, for example, they had
some savings once and in one currency,
627
:which is, which was not the dollar was
another of our currencies in our country.
628
:We, we had two.
629
:And then the government decided to switch.
630
:So their wealth diminished, right?
631
:They lost a lot of money, and now they
changed the currency again, and they lost
632
:again, and it is constantly like that.
633
:It is, it is like that.
634
:And for example, right now my
parents, they don't, they don't
635
:have a retirement right now.
636
:So they work so hard, they work for,
for their family, to provide for their
637
:family, to build something for their
future, to have something, and there is
638
:no value of what they have right now.
639
:And it's, it's a really,
really, really hard.
640
:And that's one of the things that makes
me think on Bitcoin, because I want
641
:to kind of have a something that helps
me in the future to not struggle that
642
:way, like they do it in in our country.
643
:And like I said, sometimes
to people here is in the US,
644
:people see it as an investment.
645
:In our countries could be is something
that will save us or will give us freedom
646
:from our government because having a
money that nobody can print more, that
647
:nobody can change it for something
else suddenly, or take it from you
648
:and freeze your accounts in the bank.
649
:Having the government
hands out of your money.
650
:That's awesome.
651
:Tali: Check out Aida's
interview episodes 63 to 66.
652
:Next up we have Liv, who
is a German American.
653
:Liv: I'm originally from Germany,
where I've studied psychology.
654
:And I've moved one and a half
years ago to America because my
655
:husband is originally from here.
656
:We actually met in New Zealand while
traveling, and then we decided to stay
657
:together, and we lived for two years
together in Germany while I finished
658
:my master's there, and then we moved
around one and a half years ago here
659
:to, to America, and While we were in
Germany and COVID hit and all those
660
:restrictions were a thing and the
world was a little bit upside down.
661
:My husband was talking
about Bitcoin all the time.
662
:I was a little bit annoyed at that time.
663
:I have to admit, because he was talking
in the morning, in the evening about it.
664
:And he was just.
665
:nonstop talking about it.
666
:And I was like, okay, is
it about Bitcoin again?
667
:I, I was a bit.
668
:Interested in a certain way, but
also annoyed at the beginning, but
669
:then yeah we did a lot of hikes.
670
:You couldn't really do a lot during
COVID, so it's really nice in Germany.
671
:You just leave the village and you
just go for a hike wherever you are.
672
:And we talked a lot and he explained
Bitcoin constantly on a deep level.
673
:And then A lot Bitcoineries in
Michigan, also the South Bend,
674
:sorry, it's the Benton Harbor meetup.
675
:All those people are in Ann Arbor.
676
:They have a meetup now where everyone is
into those topics of farming, sovereignty,
677
:and running permaculture project
678
:and this reminded me a lot also of
those events, Katie, the Russian is
679
:organizing where it's all about the
whole system, not just about money.
680
:It's about what do we eat?
681
:How can we improve that more woman
can give birth in a normal way
682
:rather than having a C section.
683
:How can we improve our medical treatment
and all of those kinds of other
684
:topics, which are very fundamental.
685
:And so I thought it was just so
amazing to experience it that way.
686
:And this is what got
me really into Bitcoin.
687
:Tali: You can listen to more
of Liv story on episode 97.
688
:I've learned so much over the last
few months of doing the podcast.
689
:Every time I talk to people I
have more Inspired ideas to get
690
:more women involved and more
connected in the Bitcoin community.
691
:I have launched the orange hatter women's
retreat specifically because there seems
692
:to be such a great desire for women in
this space to get to know each other
693
:and to have the opportunity to build
friendships and working relationships
694
:so that we can help each other grow.
695
:I created the orange Hatter
mastermind for this reason.
696
:Hyperbitcoinization is going to
take every single person's effort.
697
:Everybody is a foot soldier.
698
:Everybody is a star.
699
:My continue goal is to create synergy
among women and to create the level of
700
:support that is not available elsewhere.
701
:Especially, because this is
such a unique a group of people.
702
:We have shared beliefs that are just
not found outside the Bitcoin space.
703
:We believe in freedom.
704
:We believe in autonomy.
705
:We believe in self sovereignty.
706
:And it's almost like it's an
unspoken understanding when you say
707
:I'm a Bitcoiner and somebody else
says I'm a Bitcoiner immediately.
708
:You just have that connection, that
you stand firmly on similar ideals
709
:and believes, and there's not really
even any need for explanation.
710
:And a lot of us feel somewhat isolated
in our immediate social group.
711
:Bitcoin is not yet as popular as
we all hope it would be one day.
712
:And so at least for me, and a lot
of the people that I've spoken to.
713
:There are very few that have friends and
families are also Bitcoiners whom they
714
:can share exciting news with, or even
talk about something frustrating in the
715
:news that Bitcoiners can see through.
716
:That Other people are accepting
as just a matter of fact.
717
:If that's you and where
you are, you feel isolated.
718
:Don't hesitate to reach out,
go to www.orange hatter.com.
719
:There are many ways for
you to get involved.
720
:I've mentioned the retreat.
721
:I've mentioned the mastermind group.
722
:I also have a weekly reading group.
723
:And even if you haven't read the book
that we are discussing right now, come
724
:anyway, come socialize, come meet people.
725
:We meet every week, Monday nights,
seven to eight 30 Eastern standard time.
726
:And all you have to do
is send me an email.
727
:Our links are private so
that we don't get trolls.
728
:We unfortunately have had that experience.
729
:So, um, you know, just reach out.
730
:This is a safe space where all women.
731
:Who are trying to further our own
education in Bitcoin, as well as
732
:share Bitcoin with people we love.
733
:So show up.
734
:Um, like I said, if you
can't make the retreat.
735
:Come to the reading group.
736
:If you want to take it farther and you
want to make a living in a Bitcoin space,
737
:then consider joining our mastermind.
738
:There are many ways to get involved.
739
:Okay.
740
:So let's keep going.
741
:I want to share three more stories
with you today before we wrap up.
742
:Next up is Toshi from Nigeria and
she gives us a glimpse of what she
743
:has witnessed in terms of money.
744
:Toshi: I am Nigerian.
745
:So I'm from the East.
746
:Eastern part of Nigeria.
747
:So we, we are from, um, from a
certain tribe called the Igbo tribe.
748
:Yeah.
749
:So, because Nigeria is, , divided
into, , different ethnic groups,
750
:different tribes, and we have over
503 languages spoken in Nigeria.
751
:Last year, towards the ending of last
year, the Central Bank of Nigeria decided
752
:that they wanted to redesign the old Naira
notes, particularly the 200 Naira notes,
753
:500 Naira notes and the 1000 Naira notes.
754
:the CBN, CBN is Central Bank of Nigeria,
so the CBN gave a particular deadline
755
:for the circulation of that old naira
nodes design because they wanted
756
:it to be out of circulation, hence.
757
:The banks should stop giving out that
money, that particular ordinary note
758
:around to the people, and whenever people
come in to deposit the ordinary note,
759
:it should remain with the bank without
it going back into circulation again.
760
:But this wasn't the case.
761
:It kept, the ordinary notes kept
circulating and circulating and
762
:then the deadline kept, approaching.
763
:And then, , the central bank gave
like an ultimatum that once it
764
:gets to this particular date, that
old Naira notes becomes invalid.
765
:It's no longer a legal tender.
766
:we see lots of people.
767
:At ATM points have
768
:long queues just to be able to get have
access to the newly designed Naira notes.
769
:And because, of course.
770
:The newly designed Naira note
wasn't already in circulation.
771
:In fact, I would say it was on a scale
of one to 10, I would say like just two
772
:over 10 of that of the new design of the
Naira note was already in circulation.
773
:So it was crazy.
774
:And the whole 36 states of Nigeria, not
a lot of people had access to the new,
775
:to the new design of the Naira notes.
776
:Hence, People were beginning to
form long queues at different ATM
777
:points, at different banks, people
were forming long queues for hours.
778
:Some people would stay for more than
12 hours just to be able to have
779
:access to the newly designed variant.
780
:And, you know, at some point I had to...
781
:Make trips to several locations, , to
see what really is happening.
782
:And I think I should still have
some of the videos, I don't know.
783
:So I started making videos so that
people would see what really is
784
:happening, and it was crazy and it was
devastating, you'd see people would
785
:come out as early as 6:00 AM just to
be able to withdraw their own money.
786
:And at the end of the day, they would
not even be able to have access to
787
:the money because at the end of the
day, you see the A t M machine would.
788
:The ATM would stop dispensing cash,
and you'd see these people who
789
:have left their house since 6 a.
790
:m.
791
:stranded with no money at all.
792
:So it was really, really devastating.
793
:There was no money.
794
:People, for the first time in Nigeria,
people didn't have fiat to buy and
795
:sell or to make payments for stuff,
because for a long time, Nigeria...
796
:Cash is king in Nigeria.
797
:A lot of people still use cash
to buy things, to make payments,
798
:and you know, all of that stuff.
799
:So cash is still king in Nigeria.
800
:So it was really devastating for business
owners, for families, and all of that.
801
:So, thinking about how the whole
financial ecosystem has been, you see
802
:that There's a whole level of control,
the central bank, or I would say it's
803
:certain, a certain group of people
have so much control about money.
804
:Now, I was going somewhere, so I stopped
to get a cab, and I saw this man, he was
805
:kind of like in his thirties or forties
Um, and he was in really devastated.
806
:He was just standing there and he was,
he looked really helpless and he was
807
:just telling the other guy that he came
out to withdraw 5, 000 Naira and 5, 000
808
:Naira is actually less than 10 dollars.
809
:If you see how crazy that is.
810
:So he just came out to draw less
than $10 just so him and his family
811
:can have something to eat for the
day, and he wasn't able to do that.
812
:So he, he didn't even
know what, what to do.
813
:He didn't know how to go home or what
to tell his children or family about,
814
:you know, their feeding and sustain.
815
:So he was just dating us, teaching and.
816
:And I was just thinking, it's not
like this man doesn't have money.
817
:He probably does have money in his
bank account, but here he is stranded
818
:because he cannot access his money
because of the whole, the whole process
819
:of redesigning Naira and all of that.
820
:So, you know, at some point I began to
see, Why there is an urgent need for
821
:things like something like Bitcoin.
822
:Tali: You can listen to the
rest of the conversation I had
823
:with Toshi in episodes 67 to 70.
824
:Next up is Carrie from Australia.
825
:Carrie shares openly
her personal experience.
826
:From the point of view of a
Jewish descendant and the
827
:lingering Generational trauma.
828
:that is experienced through money.
829
:Carri: I was brought up by a gold bug.
830
:So my mother was hyper aware of
issues to do with debt, to do with
831
:what happened when we came off the
gold standard in:
832
:stopped being backed by gold at all.
833
:And she had painted a very, very
bleak picture for me over the years.
834
:So and really gold was the only
investment that she trusted
835
:and for all the right reasons.
836
:Once I started hearing about Bitcoin,
not only did I connect very quickly,
837
:with the problems that it solved.
838
:But I also saw a much more hopeful
picture for humanity than I had
839
:seen at any point in my life.
840
:Even with gold, because I
didn't see gold as hope.
841
:I saw gold as a potential escape, as a
way of maintaining value when the rest of
842
:currency went to zero in purchasing power.
843
:But I did not see it as hope for humanity.
844
:Bitcoin not only has the capacity
to maintain purchasing power
845
:against fiat, like gold, but it
is transformative in terms of what
846
:it does for us as individuals and
therefore for society as a whole.
847
:And it's a deeply, deeply
powerful, world changing technology
848
:like the internet on steroids.
849
:I will say this on a very personal note,
being brought up by a gold bug and being
850
:told every single conversation from the
age of five and probably less, that The
851
:world is terrible and there's no hope
and Western civilization is broken and
852
:is doomed and I suffered with terrible
depression for many years and a lot of
853
:it was because of this sense of doom
and gloom and that there really was
854
:no hope and that There was no way out.
855
:And so perhaps for me, part of
the excitement of discovering
856
:Bitcoin was, it was quite personal.
857
:It wasn't just the global South.
858
:It wasn't just debt.
859
:It wasn't just the next generation and
all those kind of altruistic things.
860
:There was something very
personal in it for me, that.
861
:When I say it was the first hope I
had in over 50 years, I really mean
862
:that at a, in a deeply personal way.
863
:And as someone who's Jewish and was
brought up with stories of the Holocaust,
864
:and my mother was brought up in the UK
being bombed, and I've told this story a
865
:couple of different places, but you know,
her brothers were fighting in the war.
866
:They were both pilots, I
think, or one might've been.
867
:Air Force and one might have been Navy.
868
:I might have that wrong.
869
:And you know, cousin in
concentration camp, et cetera.
870
:And Really, part of her whole, my
whole upbringing was the West is
871
:going to hell in a hand basket.
872
:People turn on each other when things get
ugly and Jews will be blamed and vilified.
873
:And so there was a very personal
aspect to all of what was going on
874
:with money printing and with debt.
875
:It felt like the world was
a very dangerous place.
876
:I never really got past that.
877
:And Bitcoin.
878
:started to help to heal me.
879
:And part of that is the
hope of the protocol itself.
880
:And part of it is the community who
perceive the world in a not dissimilar way
881
:to me, and a sense of finding my tribe.
882
:But it's a very broad
and very diverse tribe.
883
:I've been toying recently, as I
think as we all do, when we first
884
:encounter Bitcoin, is this a cult?
885
:Am I falling for something here?
886
:And then someone like Greg Foss is so
helpful here when he goes, it's just math.
887
:And you go, okay, so
I'm in the cult of math.
888
:I can live with that.
889
:To the degree that math is a cult.
890
:That's apparently the cult I'm a part of.
891
:Tali: You can catch the rest
of my interview with Carrie.
892
:On episode 74.
893
:Before I go on and share the
last story with you today.
894
:I want to share a very exciting new
project with you in the orange header
895
:initiative which is what I called, Chain.
896
:Intention experiment.
897
:Bitcoin edition.
898
:I have recently been reading Lynne
McTaggart's work on intention experiment.
899
:And I thought, why not?
900
:Bitcoin?
901
:We have so many women who are trying to
make a difference in the Bitcoin space.
902
:And thoughts have power.
903
:So.
904
:I created the intention experiment.
905
:You can find it on my
www.orangehatter.com/intention-
906
:experiment.
907
:Or you can go to the main web page and
go under the tab labeled get involved
908
:and find intention experiment there.
909
:The kickoff is going to be on the last
day of the women's retreat in Mexico.
910
:I think it's really fitting.
911
:That after the women have absorbed
all the wonderful energy and shed
912
:negativity and raised our vibration,
that it would be the perfect time to
913
:kick off our intention experiment with
women from around the world and men too.
914
:it will only take 15 minutes, five minutes
to gather five minutes to focus with
915
:a breathing exercise or two, and then
five minutes of sending our collective
916
:thought energy toward our intention.
917
:I am in the process of talking to
different leaders in the Bitcoin
918
:space to figure out a measurable metric
that we can all send our intention
919
:to so that we can start to track
the impact of our group intention.
920
:And it will be an ongoing thing,
but our kickoff right now is going.
921
:Going.
922
:To be a March the 20th.
923
:It is a Wednesday.
924
:And it will be at 11 o'clock
Eastern standard time.
925
:for more information, go to the web page
and sign up to be on the email list.
926
:As we get more details I will share.
927
:And also of course, send reminders out.
928
:Let's see what we can do by.
929
:Synergizing our thought energy.
930
:it's a new territory for me.
931
:But the more women I talked to
her in the space, the more I
932
:realized that we all understand.
933
:That there is this undeniable
energy flow that is moving Bitcoin.
934
:And we want to add some oomph to that.
935
:And, um, you know, play our part.
936
:So if you want to get
involved, make sure you go to.
937
:www.orangehatter.com/intention-experiment
and get your name on the email list
938
:and join our livestream on March the
20th for the intention experiment.
939
:All right.
940
:So now.
941
:I want to share the last story with you.
942
:Mary Lou is one of my favorite guests.
943
:So humble.
944
:What an incredible life story
she shared on the podcast.
945
:And I want to show you a little
clip before we wrap up today.
946
:Mary Lou: I'm Mary Lou,
and my husband is Jeff.
947
:We've been married 48 years.
948
:We have four children plus
another one we call a son.
949
:We have ten grandchildren so far.
950
:And I'm also close with my three brothers.
951
:And what a blessing to
be surrounded by family.
952
:So, God and family are the things that
are very important to me the most.
953
:I feel like.
954
:The reason I was put here on earth was to
raise children into a whole new generation
955
:for our country and for our world.
956
:So that was my definite main focus.
957
:Now that I'm older.
958
:I, I'm retired from my real job.
959
:I was Director of Religious Education
for the Catholic Church, actually for
960
:five Catholic churches at the same time.
961
:Growing up I grew up
below the poverty level.
962
:My dad had four jobs, but
no benefits whatsoever.
963
:No health insurance, just by the hour.
964
:, and.
965
:It never bothered me that
we were really poverty.
966
:, we had cousins that were on what
they called welfare back then.
967
:And they would share some of their
stuff with us , if we really needed.
968
:I feel very blessed that I
was never jealous or envious.
969
:of my cousins for receiving, again, they
called it welfare back then, I know they
970
:call it something else nowadays and back
then, you wouldn't have food stamps or
971
:EBT cards, you would go line up in long
lines down Main Street to a building
972
:where you would pick up welfare food.
973
:And it was interesting.
974
:It was, , it almost looked like army
food where you'd get an enormous
975
:can of tuna fish and printed on it.
976
:It said tuna fish.
977
:That was the only thing on the can,
you know, and a block of cheese,
978
:but it would be like 10 pounds.
979
:In one block, and it said cheese.
980
:So, you know, whatever
kind it was I don't know.
981
:But my, my, I would say, if, send Mary Lou
if she comes and stands in line with us.
982
:I'll give her some of
the stuff we don't like.
983
:So, We had a lot of stuff
we didn't like either.
984
:My older brother and I still to this
day talk about we'd get a cardboard box
985
:and inside was a plastic bag and the
box said, Non fat, dry powdered milk.
986
:That was exactly what it said.
987
:It was the worst.
988
:And we, my mom and I, we'd mix it in
a blender and you had to mix it with
989
:warm milk because it would be too
lumpy and then put it in the fridge.
990
:And I say that because it goes to
show how I became a saver, not a
991
:spender, how to get along in life with
a low amount of money for many years.
992
:, I'm not a person that wants to
be wealthy, just comfortable.
993
:And I think through these life choices
and life learnings, but mainly due to
994
:God's blessings, we're comfortable enough.
995
:We're ready for retirement
should it come, you know.
996
:, my husband has been working, if I can
brag, 51 years at the same company.
997
:I heard about Bitcoin through my son.
998
:He started to tell my husband and I
about Bitcoin he was diving into it.
999
:, , he was really pouring time into it.
:
01:03:51,879 --> 01:03:56,559
He wanted to share this with
us, but at the time, my husband
:
01:03:56,569 --> 01:03:58,879
was not really interested.
:
01:03:59,069 --> 01:04:01,869
He had his way of saving.
:
01:04:02,309 --> 01:04:09,609
but My son was so on fire, he wanted to
tell my husband and I about Bitcoin I
:
01:04:09,779 --> 01:04:14,569
missed a lot of the conversations
because I'd be playing with his kids.
:
01:04:14,929 --> 01:04:18,799
I'm trying to listen but all
talking grandma, grandma, grandma.
:
01:04:19,424 --> 01:04:23,368
And My son started coming over
to my house late at night, when
:
01:04:23,378 --> 01:04:25,468
all of his kids were home in bed.
:
01:04:25,524 --> 01:04:28,624
That way grandma couldn't
be playing with kids.
:
01:04:29,708 --> 01:04:34,928
He started giving me articles
to read, resources and his own
:
01:04:34,968 --> 01:04:42,232
explanations and that was the
beginnings of me wanting more
:
01:04:43,462 --> 01:04:46,912
Tali: I don't know about you,
but every time I listened to
:
01:04:46,912 --> 01:04:49,462
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:
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