In this episode, I chat with Simon Yugler. Simon is depth psychotherapist and psychedelic integration coach. We chat about:

• Simon's relationship to the outdoors and how it has developed and been influenced by depth psychology
• The ritual of initiation, its history, transformative power, and how adventure sports and travel can be viewed as modern attempts at self-initiation
• Depth psychology vs the rational-materialism of the scientific method. How concepts like the self (and transformation of the self) require a "more than rational" lens to contemplate how interacting with nature can lead to transformation.

Links on some of the topics of this conversation:

• A great article written by Simon: What is Initiation
• Bill Plotkin, his work on soul-making & wilderness rite of passage ceremonies: Animus Valley Institute
• René Descartes and mind/body dualism: See this article on How the dualism of Descartes ruined our mental health

You can find more of Simon on Instagram @depth_medicine and https://initiationscounseling.com/

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